Latest / Boozy Banter with Friends / Wonderful World of Cryptids

Transcript

Wonderful World of Cryptids · Boozy Banter with Friends

• 0:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello and welcome to boozy banter with friends.
• 0:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm Leyla.
• 0:22
  Trisha Smith: I'm Trisha.
• 0:23
  Diane Black: I'm Diane.
• 0:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Grab your favorite spirit and join us because, shits about to get real.
• 0:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello.
• 0:39
  Diane Black: Namaste!
• 0:41
  Trisha Smith: Hello. That was the most aggressive like,
• 0:47
  Diane Black: That was not peaceful at all.
• 0:48
  Trisha Smith: No, you kind of gave me anxiety with that, Namaste.
• 0:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: You will be namaste beatches
• 0:57
  Diane Black: You will be peaceful.
• 0:59
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, no I was Yeah, I was getting,
• 1:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: Or I wiil come for you.
• 1:06
  Diane Black: Namaste.
• 1:07
  Trisha Smith: Oh, so much nicer, calmer.
• 1:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 1:12
  Trisha Smith: She got all her aggression out in one word.
• 1:19
  Diane Black: Yeah, I, we have a big thunderstorm happening right now. So enjoying the lightning and the thunder.
• 1:28
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 1:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Lightning and the thunder.
• 1:32
  Trisha Smith: You got to sing about there, Leyla?
• 1:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Feel the thunder.
• 1:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Actually, we're doing something a little different. We are not.
• 1:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: We are not day drinking today.
• 1:45
  Trisha Smith: We're not.
• 1:46
  Diane Black: No, we're not.
• 1:47
  Trisha Smith: It's not even daytime for once.
• 1:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's not.
• 1:51
  Diane Black: I know.
• 1:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: We're doing a little bit of nighttime zoom.
• 1:56
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, I get used to this. I mean, we, it's taken us a good, what time is it now?
• 2:01
  Trisha Smith: Three hours for us to get our shit together. But that being said, you know, it's kind of nice to like, kind of sort of be in half jammies have not.
• 2:18
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 2:18
  Trisha Smith: No makeup.
• 2:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. Yep.
• 2:22
  Trisha Smith: So I could kind of sort of get used to this except I really do enjoy day drinking with you girls. So
• 2:28
  Diane Black: Yeah, in person.
• 2:30
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 2:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, absolutely and I think part of you know, why it takes us so long is because the day drinking helps us have a little bit of beverages and then not overdo it so we can drive back to our homes.
• 2:43
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 2:44
  Diane Black: Right.
• 2:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: When we get together and record in the evenings, we have that same timeframe of recording during the day of... We'll, good to.
• 2:54
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 2:55
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 2:56
  Trisha Smith: Except when we get together at night, like when we go to Diane's and we bring our significant others and we tend to loosen up a little bit and sometimes our recordings don't always make it they don't always air because we are not being careful because we're day drinking. We're like all bets are off, drink all you can, I designated driver.
• 3:21
  Diane Black: Yeah, I don't have to drive anywhere because it's
• 3:27
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. A couple days later, we listened to the my house.
• 3:32
  Trisha Smith: episode. We're like, yeah, this isn't gonna go on the air at all.
• 3:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: We're not gonna use this one.
• 3:39
  Trisha Smith: Nobody wants to listen to drunk Trisha.
• 3:42
  Diane Black: But there funny.
• 3:43
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, no, they're, they're funny to us. They're funny to us.
• 3:53
  Trisha Smith: So, anyway,
• 3:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: But one thing we're still doing though, we're still having a beverage.
• 3:58
  Diane Black: We are.
• 4:00
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 4:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: We're kind of like, have a special shout out.
• 4:04
  Trisha Smith: We have a special shout out because we found a little new neighborhood, hangout. Not so new, but new in purpose.
• 4:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: New to me.
• 4:15
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 4:16
  Trisha Smith: New to you,
• 4:16
  Diane Black: New to me.
• 4:17
  Trisha Smith: New to Diane, but I've been going for months. I've been taking my grandson and we go and we do. It's an arcade,
• 4:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, yeah,
• 4:24
  Trisha Smith: Did you know these ladies have a podcast and he's and we play games and we hang out, we have dinner. And recently I took Leyla in there because it happened to be a like, pointing to us and making us handout business cards and, happy hour. And so we went in and we met the nicest bartender you know, bartenders are nice.
• 4:43
  Trisha Smith: They just that's our job. They just they pour you drinks, but this guy is exceptionally nice and so welcoming and such so supportive. Like Every person and he was so sweet. And he made us a couple drinks to share for that came to the bar. He's lik, the show. Because we're like, we're running out of ideas. You know, what, what do you have?
• 5:19
  Trisha Smith: And he's like, oh, let me hook you up. So to tonight,
• 5:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: He did.
• 5:25
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, he's most certainly did. So tonight, I'm, you know, he's like, I don't have names for these. And I'm like, well, you know what, I'll tell you what it tastes like.
• 5:34
  Trisha Smith: And mine tasted like one of those freezer pops that you get in the summertime and it gets all melty. And then you just push the whole melted stuff right into your mouth and it tastes so yummy and cold. And that's exactly what he made me.
• 5:53
  Trisha Smith: It was like a melted freezer pop. Grape, the great freezer pop, I think.
• 6:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes.
• 6:00
  Diane Black: Yes.
• 6:01
  Trisha Smith: It was a nice purple color, which maybe made me think it was the purple one, but it definitely tasted like grape to me. But it had one, wait a minute, I think I'm doing the right yeah, one and a half ounces of the Flor de Cana rum, three quarters of an ounce of Blue Curacao, three quarters of an ounce of Apple Pucker, and then he shook it up put it in a glass with some sprite and did a grenadine floater which when you mix it up it makes that nice beautiful purple color. And I shit you not, it tasted like have melted freezer pop. It was so good.
• 6:43
  Diane Black: Well, do we want to give him credit? Do you want to share his name and location?
• 6:47
  Trisha Smith: It's Joe at District Eat and play in O iedo, Florida and they're t the Oviedo mall and they h ve so much to do. I mean, after e got done Leyla and I we So mine is, was a vodka based drink. And of course he didn't t axe throwing and they have b wling lanes and they do escape ooms, but they have a shit on of arcade games and pinbal. Like they have a monthly pinba l pass that you can buy. So ou can just like for these gee y dads they're like, oh i'm goi g to ditch my kids and go y u play three hours of pinball ike somebody's grandpa does. I m not naming any names, my husband., Don. So give it a name, and so I'm calling it the, Jolly Rancher Joe.
• 7:44
  Trisha Smith: Yes.
• 7:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: It has three quarters of an ounce of Stoli Raspberry, three quarters of an ounce of Three Olives, Cherry Vodka, one and a half ounce of strawberry puree, splash a lime juice. You shake it all up and throw it in a glass with ice, a nice tall glass and then you top it with a little bit of sprite and a little bit of grenadine floater.
• 8:14
  Trisha Smith: And it really was Yeah, I took a picture which will be on our Instagram have our drinks together. And they did look like a couple of like, glasses of Jolly Ranchers. I mean, they were just so pretty.
• 8:25
  Trisha Smith: And then you know, when Diane got there after work, she was like, I need a shot, it has to be gluten free, and he is like I gotcha, and you got and you'd never had Midori before, right?
• 8:43
  Diane Black: No,
• 8:44
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 8:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: She also told him that she's a hard fast, you know.
• 8:47
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 8:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: Type of girl.
• 8:48
  Trisha Smith: She's like I don't need a sipping drink., give me a
• 8:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm a hard and fast, heavy to the point kind of shot.
• 8:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: girl., what you got Joe?
• 8:59
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 8:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: She challenged him.
• 9:01
  Diane Black: And he, and challenge was accepted man, and he made the, which I had never had before. I've heard of them the, Melon Balls.
• 9:08
  Trisha Smith: Uh huh.
• 9:09
  Diane Black: But he made it add a shot. So, and it's really simple. It was Tito's Vodka with a splash of pineapple and the Madori.
• 9:17
  Trisha Smith: Yes,
• 9:18
  Diane Black: It had a really nice light green color to it, and he hit it on the head,
• 9:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: True, and you throw that ball down your mouth.
• 9:26
  Diane Black: I Did.
• 9:28
  Trisha Smith: You had a couple?
• 9:28
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. Good. Say. A couple balls down your mouth, Sorry.
• 9:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: I just want it to be noted, that Trisha is the one that did it this time.
• 9:41
  Trisha Smith: I did, I did , I did a Leyla.
• 9:44
  Diane Black: Yes.
• 9:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: So proud of you.
• 9:47
  Trisha Smith: Thank you.
• 9:47
  Diane Black: I know she's blushing.
• 9:51
  Trisha Smith: Cuz normally that doesn't come from me, that normally,
• 9:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: Normally she's like, Okay, so we're moving on now.
• 9:58
  Trisha Smith: Moving on. Moving on. Nothing to see here. These are not the droids you're looking for.
• 10:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Ya looky loo. So tonight we are going to discuss, we're gonna have a discussion about some things,
• 10:14
  Trisha Smith: Right, the most interesting of things.
• 10:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: The most interesting things.
• 10:19
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 10:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Most wide variety I think of things. If you like, aquatic or semi aquatic, you can find it. If you like terrestrial, you can find that too. And if you like winged, you can also find that as well.
• 10:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: We're talking about the wonderful world of cryptids
• 10:38
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 10:39
  Diane Black: Dun dun da
• 10:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: They got everything.
• 10:43
  Trisha Smith: They really do. We tried to divide this all up so that we could each have something to talk about. And I was supposed to do well known cryptids. So I started looking at all the cryptids that they have around the world. There are
• 11:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: There are a ton.
• 11:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: so many,
• 11:03
  Trisha Smith: There are and so many of them I couldn't pronounce that I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna do the top five for North America because I can say those words.
• 11:15
  Trisha Smith: So aside from, you know, Yeti, or Chupacabra, or Loch Ness, the other ones were like a I don't that's a lot of consonants in one word, I don't know what that means. So I just stuck to North America. Diane, you had you were looking up things that used to be considered cryptids. Which, okay, for anybody that's listening, that they're like, what the hell are you talking about? Cryptids are an animal such as the Sasquatch, or the Loch Ness monster that have been claimed to exist but never proven to exist. And contrary to popular belief, cryptids don't have to be supernatural, mythical, or even all that strange, though many popular creatures acquire these characteristics as their legends grow, and I got that from the Merriam Webster's. So you know, they're legit, and they know what they're talking about. So you know, it's funny because cryptids doesn't even pop up on your autocorrect on your phone.
• 12:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well do you know why?
• 12:34
  Trisha Smith: Why?
• 12:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Because the first known use of, cryptid, was in 1983.
• 12:39
  Trisha Smith: No way, because the Yeti and the Loch Ness Monster have been around for a lot longer than that.
• 12:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: But I guess it was just given a name.
• 12:48
  Diane Black: Yeah, that term was established.
• 12:52
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 12:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: In 1983. That's the first known use of cryptid, and it's probably from cryptozoology,
• 12:59
  Trisha Smith: Right,
• 13:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Where these things have been discovered. So
• 13:03
  Trisha Smith: And that's a legit field now, like you can be a cryptozoologist without, you know, people mocking you now.
• 13:11
  Diane Black: Like the parapsychology field is a real field.
• 13:14
  Trisha Smith: Right, we've talked about that. Yeah.
• 13:18
  Diane Black: Get your degree and masters and PHD.
• 13:22
  Trisha Smith: And get grants.
• 13:22
  Trisha Smith: Exactly.
• 13:24
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 13:24
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, it's the same. Same thing. Yeah.
• 13:28
  Trisha Smith: legitimate. Right.
• 13:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: So cryptozooology is a pseudoscience and subculture that aims to prove the existence of entitie,s from folklore records, such as, as you said, from cryptids Trisha, Bigfoot, Loch Ness Yeti, the chupacabra, the Jersey Devil, the Mokele-mbembe.
• 13:48
  Trisha Smith: See, that's exactly why I didn't do international cryptid.
• 13:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Cryptoologists refer to these entities as, cryptids, a coin termed by the subculture. So,
• 14:02
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 14:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's a little bit of a learnins in there for you.
• 14:06
  Trisha Smith: I know. Right? Do y'all feel smarter.
• 14:10
  Trisha Smith: I feel very smarty right now.
• 14:12
  Diane Black: Your welcome.
• 14:13
  Trisha Smith: Using big words like cryptozoology.
• 14:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Bringing it back down to the basics. That's what we do here at Boozy Banter with Friends.
• 14:19
  Diane Black: Right.
• 14:21
  Trisha Smith: Okay,
• 14:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: So do we want to start with either ones that have been proven to actually exist.
• 14:27
  Trisha Smith: Yes,
• 14:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Or do we want to go with the most popular?
• 14:30
  Trisha Smith: No, I want to hear all the things that were like, you are seeing things and then people are like, nope, here's the facts, ma'am.
• 14:40
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 14:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: All right.
• 14:41
  Diane Black: And like you, you Trisha to I was, I was surprised at how many of these creatures animals that we now know of in our daily lives that were at once taught once upon a time known as a cryptid. Like there were a lot,
• 14:57
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 14:57
  Diane Black: So, I wanted to limit it too also. So you decided to do the five. I am seven here, but I'll just pick five.
• 15:07
  Trisha Smith: We'll take your seven.
• 15:09
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 15:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Just breeze through them.
• 15:12
  Diane Black: Well, this I think most people know the Komodo dragon that was once a cryptid until 1910. There were stories going on about a giant lizard, and then there was a gentleman that found a dead species and brought it back and then established other scientists to go back and they found it and it also inspired the classic, King Kong.
• 15:38
  Trisha Smith: Komodo dragons?
• 15:38
  Trisha Smith: Because they look like giant iguanas, don't they?
• 15:44
  Diane Black: Yeah, um, but what I found in my my research was that the first live one, the week that they captured one, and they brought it back, and they put it at the Bronx Zoo, In 1933.
• 15:58
  Trisha Smith: Wow.
• 15:59
  Diane Black: Yeah. And then that's what inspired the first King Kong. And then we have the, Platypus. understandable, right,
• 16:07
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 16:07
  Diane Black: So you'd have to see it to believe it is what I was reading. And you're most Europeans back in the 18th century, didn't believe like this thing could possibly exist.
• 16:19
  Diane Black: Because, you know, the platypus has the bill, and then the the flat tail and the body.
• 16:25
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 16:26
  Diane Black: And it was in 1798.
• 16:26
  Diane Black: When a zoologist had discovered it. Then we have the Okapi, which I just learned about the Okapi a couple years ago.
• 16:37
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 16:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yep.
• 16:38
  Diane Black: Are you familiar with that?
• 16:39
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 16:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Aren't they called like, the ghost of the forest?
• 16:42
  Diane Black: Yes, ghost of the forest, forest giraffe, and in frica, they were known as the frican unicorn. And they were iscovered in back in the 18th a d 19th century, actually, by t e Africans first, but it w sn't until 1901 when a E ropean, British, adventurer, g y discovered it. I don't kn w what you c
• 17:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: So technical, adventurer guy.
• 17:11
  Diane Black: What do you call them, where you go?
• 17:14
  Trisha Smith: An archaeologists, no?
• 17:16
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 17:17
  Trisha Smith: Something like that.
• 17:18
  Diane Black: Right, they take these adventures, you know the rich men that would go and so he found it. This one, you know, I don't, gorilla.
• 17:27
  Trisha Smith: Really? Gorillas?
• 17:30
  Diane Black: Right. And I was like, surprised by that. And the first sentence in one of the websites that I said, I said, I bet you didn't expect to see gorillas on the list.
• 17:40
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 17:41
  Diane Black: No, I didn't.
• 17:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: I would not expect that.
• 17:43
  Diane Black: Right. But it explained that European explorers thought gorillas were monster like, and the way that they had described them were like, a man with hairy features, long limbs. So they thought it was kind of sounds like,
• 18:02
  Trisha Smith: A Big Foot,
• 18:03
  Diane Black: Or Yeti.
• 18:03
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 18:04
  Diane Black: Right. And so, in 1902, a German captain was the first one to actually capture one and identify it as the gorilla. Also, the this is interesting, the giant squid.
• 18:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 18:19
  Diane Black: I found this to be interesting, because many people still consider it ma,ny people say it's still a cryptid.
• 18:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: The Kraken.
• 18:28
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 18:29
  Trisha Smith: Well, and wasn't that, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, wasn't like a giant squid that wrapped itself around the boat and pull it you know, and but they actually have found they've never found a live one.
• 18:41
  Trisha Smith: Or I could be wrong. They're always dead.
• 18:45
  Diane Black: This this article I found, it said that it's similar to most cryptids which tend to live in habitats that are difficult for humans to find. So you're right. They've never like found habitat because the giant squids live sod deep.
• 19:04
  Trisha Smith: So far down, right?
• 19:07
  Diane Black: We haven't been able to go quite that far. The very first images were taken in 2004, by a researcher in Japan, and then in 2006. Again, another scientist from Japan's National Science Museum, caught a live 24 foot female giant.
• 19:29
  Diane Black: It had washed ashore, it was still alive, and
• 19:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Wow.
• 19:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: then it eventually died. You know sometimes sea life they'll come on to the shore when they're dying.
• 19:39
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 19:40
  Diane Black: So he found it and it was alive. But I guess because they haven't found the habitat, so some people still say no, it's still a cryptid.
• 19:46
  Diane Black: But other people say now we had this proof.
• 19:50
  Trisha Smith: Wow.
• 19:51
  Diane Black: There's the kangaroo.
• 19:53
  Trisha Smith: What? Really?
• 19:55
  Diane Black: Yep. It was a cryptid, cryptid. It was first described by a gentleman, Amerigo, I'm not going to try to say, Vespucci, it sounds ,it sounds like an Italian man. And 1499 he was travelling along the southern coast of Australia. And he described the kangaroo as a, monstrous beast with a head of a fox, the hands of a man and tale of a monkey, and a bag that used to carry,
• 20:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like an old lady.
• 20:29
  Diane Black: A bag used to carry its young. So that was 1499, that's a long time ago. It wasn't until a couple hundred years later in 1770, Sir Joseph Banks, rediscovered the kangaroo on Captain Cook's voyage.
• 20:52
  Diane Black: Sounds Like a movie, and then the last one that I have on my list again, there's plenty more.
• 21:04
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 21:04
  Diane Black: Really fascinating when you go to read it. But this little guy, I'm trying really hard to pronounce it. Because it's not something in North America,
• 21:14
  Trisha Smith: See, I would have ended it six just because I couldn't pronounce it just sayin.
• 21:22
  Diane Black: Bonda guizhou. I think, that's my best effort.
• 21:25
  Diane Black: It's BONDEGEZOU. It's one of the ancestral, spirits of Moni people in western Papua New Guinea. It's a little tiny, tiny, it wasn't discovered into 1980. So that's pretty recent.
• 21:45
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Diane Black: And a gentleman Mr.
• 21:46
  Diane Black: Tim Flannery, he identified the animal. It was tree dwelling marsupial and it looks like a little tiny man that has black and white fur, and even walks around on two legs. Sadly, right now, as of today, it is on the endangered species list.
• 22:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Most animals are.
• 22:11
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 22:12
  Diane Black: So those are those are just some that I thought were really interesting.
• 22:17
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 22:18
  Diane Black: There's a whole lot more, but I was very surprised by the gorilla.
• 22:22
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 22:22
  Diane Black: And the kangaroo.
• 22:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 22:23
  Trisha Smith: Right, and the Okapi, because I swear I've been to Disney World, and they they have some on their,
• 22:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 22:34
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, their Safari ride.
• 22:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Safari ride.
• 22:36
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. So I mean, it just seems like something that's out there all the time. You know, in Florida, at Disney World that was once considered a cryptid. That's crazy.
• 22:47
  Diane Black: I know.
• 22:48
  Trisha Smith: To me.
• 22:48
  Diane Black: Yeah. It became an official like, okay, identifiable animal in 1901. So it's only 120 years ago,
• 22:58
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 22:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. But before that, I can imagine them being very solitary forest dwelling creatures, and their camouflage just allows them to even blend more in to the forest. So I ca imagine that, they're, back i the day, they were spotted, bu not spotted, and kind of wer like, what the heck is that i the woods
• 23:20
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. Yeah, yeah,
• 23:22
  Diane Black: I swear it was just a couple of years ago, we were watching one of the animal programs, and they did a feature on the Okapi, and I mean, like, maybe within the last 10 years ago.
• 23:33
  Trisha Smith: Right, right.
• 23:34
  Diane Black: We were like, oh, my God, what is that?
• 23:38
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 23:38
  Diane Black: Seriously.
• 23:39
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Diane Black: So very pretty. But it's really interesting. So I'd say go online and and do some if this is a topic that interests you, because there's a whole lot more out there that we now know exists that one time was considered a cryptid.
• 23:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's Interesting.
• 23:57
  Diane Black: It is because, it just goes to prove, prove that somebody says they saw something, who are we to say, no, they didn't.
• 24:05
  Trisha Smith: Right. Right.
• 24:07
  Diane Black: Maybe they did.
• 24:08
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 24:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right, new species are being discovered all the time.
• 24:13
  Trisha Smith: Exactly.
• 24:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: Still to this day.
• 24:15
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. Right.
• 24:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, mainly that's because we're evading every single part of the Earth.
• 24:20
  Trisha Smith: Uh God please, but that's a whole other topic of discussion for sure.
• 24:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: That doesn't fit our podcast though.
• 24:27
  Trisha Smith: Right, no, no, no.
• 24:27
  Trisha Smith: So Leyla, tell us about some of the ones that you found that were that are more obscure.
• 24:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, um, I picked five.
• 24:41
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 24:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Some, you know, some people may have been like, I already knew that. But these are five that I really didn't know of.
• 24:48
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 24:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Or I found humorous for one reason or the other. But I'm going to start off with a Florida cryptid and kind of a local-ish. This is called the St. Johns River Monster.
• 25:03
  Trisha Smith: Really?
• 25:04
  Diane Black: Oh my gosh.
• 25:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Has anybody ever heard that?
• 25:06
  Trisha Smith: No.
• 25:07
  Trisha Smith: You know, there's monkeys on the St. Johns River.
• 25:07
  Diane Black: No, but the St.
• 25:07
  Diane Black: Johns River scares me already.
• 25:14
  Diane Black: Yes, there are monkeys and has the most popular, It's the highest population of alligators.
• 25:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's Lake Monroe.
• 25:23
  Trisha Smith: I thought that was Lake Jessup.
• 25:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, Lake Jessup, you're right.
• 25:26
  Diane Black: Right. But doesn't St. John, you said St. Johns River doesn't flow into Lake Jessup?
• 25:34
  Trisha Smith: Lake Monroe.
• 25:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Flows into Lake Monroe.
• 25:37
  Trisha Smith: Lake Monroe and St. John's go all the way to the Atlantic.
• 25:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes,
• 25:43
  Diane Black: Okay.
• 25:43
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 25:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: So this one is found in the St. Johns River in Florida. It is the serpentine river monster, and it's also known as Pinky. So on May 10, of 1975 at 10am, near Jacksonville, Florida, a boat carrying five people down the St. Johns River came across an unknown creature.
• 26:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: Dorothy Abraham stated that the monster looked almost like a dinosaur, but that its skin was pulled back so tight, you can almost see all of its bones. The head which sat on top of a three foot long neck was almost the size of a full grown man, and sitting on top of that were two snail like horns, each side that had a little bone with a knob at the end, on each side of its head. There were flaps of skin that hung down over what appeared to be gills, the mouth was so large and it was turned downward, and the eyes were slanted and very dark, and the skin was almost pink in color, much like that of boiled shrimp and giving its name, Pinky. So, that wasn't the first time that creature made itself known. It's made itself known as far back as the mid 50s. The St. John's River monster has been giving shocks to local fishermen and residents in the area. From 1955 to 1961. There were a considerable amount of sightings of this river, river monster.
• 27:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: The majority of the sightings took place between Astor Park and Lake Monroe. And some cryptozoologist today believe that the St. John's River monster could be a new species of giant salamander.
• 27:28
  Trisha Smith: Oh,
• 27:29
  Diane Black: Oh, interesting.
• 27:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: The Japanese giant salamander can grow to a length of five feet, and the Chinese giant salamander can grow to a length of six feet long.
• 27:40
  Diane Black: Wow.
• 27:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, both species could also have a pink skin color due to their diet. So it's not that unbelievable that in North America, some subspecies could grow even larger than this. Other claims that pinky could have been an albino manatee, which we do have manatees in the area, an alligator or even a pink dolphin. Yeah, but some. Some others believe that the monster could be a surviving species of the, Thescelosaurus neglectus, a dinosaur that lived during the late Cretaceous period in North America. And that particular dinosaur was known to grow 11 feet long and lived in lagoons.
• 28:21
  Trisha Smith: Wow.
• 28:22
  Diane Black: Could be.
• 28:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, but I was like, that's like a hometown cryptid right there.
• 28:26
  Diane Black: Right.
• 28:27
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 28:27
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 28:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's not the Florida Skunk Ape. Another one Down in Antarctic, sub Antarctic waters.
• 28:29
  Trisha Smith: Mm hmm.
• 28:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: So, another one that I thought, this one was that I found was like, this is ind of outlandish. But it's a ryptid, is the Ningen, and t's found in sub Antarctic o eans, and it is an aquatic human id. And the word Ningen means, in Japanese means, human. Ningen is described as a whale creature that has anatomical similarit es to humans. The creature has a face it in some stories, i is said to have extremely arge limbs and or hands and ar s about 20 to 30 meters long and the pigmentation of the creature is said to be a very pale whit, which would make sense if it' in Antarctic.
• 29:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: kind of funny is called Loveland Frogman. Have you heard about about this one?
• 29:26
  Diane Black: No, but that's a funny name.
• 29:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: So the Loveland Frogman is found in Loveland, Ohio.
• 29:35
  Trisha Smith: They got some crazy shit on Ohio.
• 29:37
  Diane Black: Yes.
• 29:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well listen to this one. It's about three to four feet tall with leathery skin and frog face.
• 29:45
  Trisha Smith: Ew,
• 29:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: The Loveland, the Loveland Frogman from Loveland, Ohio, is you know, loved by the locals.
• 29:55
  Diane Black: Oh, that's good.
• 29:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: It is reported that he wields sticks as tools and some how makes them emit sparks to scare people away.
• 30:05
  Trisha Smith: Ah,
• 30:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Some kind of weird frogman.
• 30:09
  Trisha Smith: Well at least he says scares people away. He's not like come over here sonny so I can eat you.
• 30:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm a lovely frogman. Why don't you come over here and see if I turn into a prince.
• 30:20
  Diane Black: Oh.
• 30:23
  Trisha Smith: Like the pervy frogman.
• 30:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: And he's getting sticks to like light the sparks.
• 30:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like, look, I could, I could light sparks, gimme a kiss.
• 30:33
  Diane Black: Oh.
• 30:36
  Trisha Smith: Oh my god, that's so wrong.
• 30:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: That is wrong.
• 30:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: But that's how we rock it, but I did it,
• 30:42
  Trisha Smith: You did.
• 30:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: So the last one I'm going to tell you is called the Bullebak.
• 30:49
  Trisha Smith: Buell with a B?
• 30:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: BULLEBAK.
• 30:55
  Trisha Smith: Okay,
• 30:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: And it's found in Amsterdam, and it's a water demon with a big hook.
• 31:04
  Diane Black: Is that open to interpretation?
• 31:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: The Bullebak lives under a bridge across from one of many canals, in Amsterdam. Children, it's kind of like a story, to tell, to scare children. So children are told that the Bullebak might come out of its hiding place and grab them so they better behave.
• 31:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: So I don't know if it's just something to scare kids or if it's actually a cryptid.
• 31:31
  Diane Black: Oh, still.
• 31:32
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, with a hook, anything with a hook is like uh,
• 31:37
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 31:38
  Trisha Smith: Ya know.
• 31:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Demon, hook.
• 31:40
  Diane Black: Yeah, I didn't like that.
• 31:41
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 31:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: It said it's lives like around the water so that way we kids get close to the water, It'll hook out and get ya.
• 31:51
  Trisha Smith: Exactly.
• 31:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: So those are five obscure ones.
• 31:54
  Trisha Smith: Well, I've got five common ones, like five most popular cryptids in the United States. Starting with number one, is of course, the Skunk Ape. I know we've mentioned it before, it is said we have one here in Florida. The Skunk Ape is also known as the Swamp Cabbage Man, which just sounds gross. The Swamp Ape, the Stinky Ape, the Florida Bigfoot, the Louisiana Bigfoot, Swamp Squatch.
• 32:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Swamp squatch.
• 32:34
  Trisha Smith: Swamp Squatch, but you know whoever came up with that genius.
• 32:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know what I'm gonna call my sighting different, i'm gonna call it the, Swamp Squacht.
• 32:46
  Trisha Smith: Exactly, and you know they said it with an accent just like that. Or the Myakka Skunk Ape. I don't know what the Myakka.
• 32:57
  Diane Black: Myakka sounds like an Indian name.
• 32:59
  Trisha Smith: Right. Well, it's human shaped, often described as resembling the Pacific Northwest Bigfoot, but smaller with large eyes and reddish in color, and the name comes from its ape like appearance and its strong, horrible odor.
• 33:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Skunk Ape.
• 33:21
  Trisha Smith: The skunk a has been a part of Florida, Georgia and Alabama folklore since the early settlers came to the area.
• 33:29
  Trisha Smith: Seminal Indian myths speaks of a similar strong foul smelling creature called the Esti Capcaki, which roughly translates as cannibal giant.
• 33:41
  Trisha Smith: The first sighting was reported in 1818. And although there were many throughout the years, there was a definite uptick in sightings during the 60s and 70s. Drugs.
• 33:58
  Diane Black: LSD.
• 34:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: Diane, agreeing to the drug Idea?
• 34:06
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, I think she's come around.
• 34:08
  Diane Black: No, I just know that's what you're thinking.
• 34:12
  Trisha Smith: I say it every time, 60s, 70s, drugs. Next on my list is the, Moth man. So yeah, sightings started in, November of 1966 in, Point Pleasant, West Virginia. Roger and Linda Scarberry, and Steven and Mary Mallette, were driving through the site of a former World War, World War II munitions plant around midnight, when Linda noticed two large glowing red eyes in the darkness beside the Old North Powerplant.
• 34:50
  Trisha Smith: As they got closer they saw that these eyes belong to something humanoid, about seven feet tall, with wings folded against its back. The creature then spread its wings to a 15 foot span and chased them to the Point Pleasant city limits at speeds exceeding 100 miles per hour.
• 35:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Wow.
• 35:17
  Trisha Smith: It's 1966 did cars go 100 mph?
• 35:20
  Diane Black: Yes.
• 35:21
  Trisha Smith: Did they really?
• 35:22
  Diane Black: Uh, yeah, sure they did.
• 35:24
  Trisha Smith: I, you know, I always hear about them now,
• 35:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, I would say because they had all the muscle cars back then. That's where like, wasn't at the time where muscle cars are just becoming a thing.
• 35:34
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 35:35
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, alright, 100 miles an hour is pushing it, though, for sure. So, but over the course of the next year, there were many sightings. But they all suddenly stopped after the collapse of the Silver Bridge, and the death of 46 people on, December 15, 1967.
• 35:53
  Trisha Smith: Some believe that the Mothman tries to warn people about disasters that are about to happen, while others believes he, believe he's a harbinger of destruction. There have been reports of Mothman sightings before other disasters around the world, including Chernobyl and before the Twin Towers were struck on 911.
• 36:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's interesting.
• 36:22
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 36:22
  Diane Black: It is very interesting.
• 36:24
  Trisha Smith: Next on my list, third is the, Jersey Devil.
• 36:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: The Jersey Devil,
• 36:30
  Trisha Smith: Right. We've all heard about that.
• 36:33
  Trisha Smith: So the story of the Jersey Devil began with a,
• 36:33
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 36:37
  Diane Black: Pine Barons resident known as, Mother Leeds. It said in 1735, Mother Leeds had 12 children and when she found out she was pregnant for the 13th time,
• 36:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my Lord,
• 36:56
  Trisha Smith: Right, she cursed the child out of frustration, saying the child would be the devil. So anyways, on a stormy night, the child was born normal. So she like popped one out, it was normal. But then it changed into a creature with hooves, a goat's head, bat wings and a fork tail.
• 37:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't know. I don't believe it.
• 37:21
  Diane Black: Back then, most of the children died. That's why they had so many.
• 37:26
  Trisha Smith: Well, this one flew up the chimney, and out into the forest. So you know, some versions of the story claim that, Mother Leeds was a witch, and the baby's father was actually the Devil. People still report seeing the Jersey Devil to this day, so
• 37:50
  Diane Black: That's crazy.
• 37:51
  Trisha Smith: Take it however you'd like. But that woman was over it. Iwonder if she had a 14th. She might have had a 14th, she's like, eh this is my life.
• 38:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: Someone was playing some sweet love music.
• 38:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Come on now, let's get it on.
• 38:05
  Trisha Smith: If It was like the 19 hundred's she would have had like a baseball team, but you know the 17 hundred's, she just has as a bunch of damn kids. So anyways, okay, fourth on my list is the Goatman. Have you all ever heard, I had never heard of a Goatman.
• 38:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: I did. I did.
• 38:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's almost one that I put on there as like an obscure one.
• 38:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: But I was like, No, but yeah, I've that was on an obscure list.
• 38:35
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 38:36
  Diane Black: Yeah,
• 38:36
  Trisha Smith: So the origin story was that he was supposedly a scientist at the, Beltsville Agricultural Research Center, that was conducting experiments on goats, when one went very wrong. He became mutated, became becoming goat like himself, and he wandered the backroads of Beltsville, Maryland attacking cars with an axe. But according to University of Maryland, folklorist Barry Pearson, Goatman Legends began as early as 520 BC. Okay, real quick. Did you all know that there's a BC and then there's which we're used to but there's a modern day BCE?
• 39:22
  Diane Black: Um hum.
• 39:23
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, I didn't know that until tonight.
• 39:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: I didn't know that.
• 39:25
  Trisha Smith: I had a Google the, BCE. It's Before the Common Era, but I'm like, What the hell is E stand for? Now? You know, that's what happens when you're an older generation, where you're like, what the fuck does that mean. So, the rumor started in Maryland, when death of a dog was blamed on the Goatman, by locals. They're like, oh, this dog died, and so we're there's a Goatman that's roaming around killing dogs. And people were like, okay, so.
• 39:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: I believe it.
• 39:58
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. You know, maybe they didn't have TV back then. I don't know. But Pearson believes the legend stays alive through teenagers, of course, retelling the story of a creature that attacks couples who frequent the local lovers lane.
• 40:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes, of course.
• 40:17
  Trisha Smith: Right. And so my last one, which actually was number one, but I moved it to the last one because we always have a lot of comments about it is, Bigfoot. But, he's the most
• 40:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: These people are squatchers.
• 40:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: famous of all our North American cryptids. The most famous reported sighting is, of course, the Patterson Gimlin film. If you aren't familiar, this piece of footage of an unidentified subject was shot in 1967 in Northern California, and has been repeatedly used to both authenticate and debunk the existence of Bigfoot ever since the filmmakers were Roger Patterson, who died of cancer in 1972 and Robert Bob Gimlin. Both have denied being part of a hoax, they swear that what they saw, was what they saw. Bob Gimlin mostly avoided any type of discussion about the film from the early 70s until about 2005, when he started giving interviews and appearing at Bigfoot conferences. Since then, most sightings have been deemed hoaxes. But there are still people out there that are looking, including my, Sister In Law, Cindy, and that's why I saved it for last because she is an avid, Bigfoot Hunter. And she you know, she's like, what is there not to believe? Who are we to say that something doesn't exist, which we just discussed that you we can make fun of people all we want. But in the end, if it suddenly becomes reality, then we're the only ones that look ridiculous, because I believe in any type of signs.
• 42:11
  Trisha Smith: They are, they are hardcore, hardcore, for sure. So I just think it's fascinating because there's nothing out there that I'm like, that I believe in so hard, that I, that's really not fact. You know what I mean? Like there's, like evidence that people are like, Oh, look, we have no, there's no origin to that evidence. So they can't say it's not Fact or Fiction. But at the same time, there's no definitive proof like, well known proof. So I mean, there's lots of castings, there's fur, you know, things like that, but nobody has like, proof, like a body or anything like that. So,
• 42:55
  Diane Black: Yeah.
• 42:56
  Trisha Smith: You know, I just still feel like I'm on that.
• 42:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fence.
• 43:00
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. where it's like, you all can believe what you want to believe. But I, you know, I kind of feel, two! Show me the money. Show me the money shot.
• 43:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'd still be a five on the cryptids. Because you just never know. I mean, a lot cryptids have been found out to be real live animals. So there's a possibility, maybe the some of the, like the, sub antartic. humanoid, probably a hoax.
• 43:34
  Trisha Smith: How are you going to find that?
• 43:37
  Diane Black: Maybe in time when, when technology advances.
• 43:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: That is good.
• 43:41
  Trisha Smith: So yeah.
• 43:42
  Diane Black: It was.
• 43:43
  Trisha Smith: Good discussions.
• 43:43
  Trisha Smith: So in a nutshell, if you heard anything that was I'd like to hear more about that, like the Goatman or any other number of cryptids we mentioned tonight., Yeah.
• 44:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Or if they have a favorite that we don't know about and is like. Hey, you need to research into this.
• 44:06
  Trisha Smith: Let us know what you'd like us to delve into further. And so we can get on that because this is an interesting discussion. And I'd love to do it again, and really pinpoint some of the things that we talked about tonight. So if you want to push us in a particular direction, please do, let us know on our Instagram, Boozy Banter With Friends, or shoot us a message at, Boozy Banter With Friends@gmail.com and we will, we'll get on it.
• 44:37
  Trisha Smith: We're, we're good about that.
• 44:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Absolutely.
• 44:42
  Trisha Smith: So yeah,
• 44:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think my wine glasses looking a little empty.
• 44:46
  Trisha Smith: I know, let's go get a refill.
• 44:48
  Diane Black: It's that time.
• 44:49
  Trisha Smith: All right until later, cheers.
• 44:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: Cheers.
• 44:52
  Diane Black: Cheers.
• 44:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hey, like what you hear?
• 44:54
  Diane Black: Check us out on Instagram.
• 44:56
  Trisha Smith: Or send us a message at Boozy Banter With Friends.com.
• 44:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thanks for listening.
• 45:00
  Trisha Smith: Until next time.
• 45:02
  Diane Black: Late-a