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Extra Terrestrials on Display In Mexico! · Made of Stars

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Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
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space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been known to learn about astronomical
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Stars, Made of stars, Made stars Stars. You could be from Highllywood,
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New Mexico, Mars. Where stars women us, We are made of
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stars. I'm West, Carol Join, I'm a good friend. Doctor Sean
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Cruizen from Columbus State univer Versities, Coca Cola Space Science Center. Hey Sean,
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good morning West. This has been an eventful morning in space science.
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I am happy to be here to discuss the ramifications of this very interesting day
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with you on our podcast Made of Stars. This is another one of those
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days where we have to kind of navigate our way through the cow pasture a
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little bit, because we have some some news stories that I would say,
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even as recently as I don't know two years ago, maybe even a year
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ago, we would have just kind of blown right past it and not even
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brought it up. And certainly five ten years ago this would have just been
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like on the cover of those magazines when you're going through the grocery store,
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or those are the bat Boy magazines. They still have those. I haven't
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seen those in a long time. Whatever that was so normally in the past,
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we would not have even acknowledged this in any way. However, as
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we have pointed out for the past several weeks, over the past few or
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seven past a few months, several times I guess the fact that this is
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now news for a few different reasons. And while we have this little side
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story to go with it, it is part of the bigger story, right.
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It just has become that. And I don't really understand how we got
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to this point, but we've gotten to this point. So the two things
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that we feel one absolutely relevant. NASA's independent study team had a press conference
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earlier. We delayed recordings so that you and I could watch the press conference.
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I thought it was overall, and I didn't. I missed part of
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it because I had a phone call that came in that I needed to take,
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so I missed part of the Q and A. But however, what
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I saw of the actual beginning of the press conference all relevant. All things
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that we need to know, considering the fact that there's a lot of conversation
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about UAPs formerly known as UFOs, and there's been some credible people talking about
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it. That's why this has become relevant here in the last few months.
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Now, this all comes a day after these quote unquote alien bodies that look
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like mummified I don't know, science projects. They look like something a kid
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made to turn in at school. These things show up in Mexico and they
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were being presented to their Congress and not the first time these things have shown
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up anywhere, but for some reason, and I guess because of what's going
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on with UAPs, this became a major news story yesterday on all the networks
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all over the place. So let's start. I don't know whichever one of
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these we want to start with. Do we want to start with the fake
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aliens or do we want to start with the pill real aliens? I mean,
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where do we want to go with this? I don't know. But
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it's a weird world we live in now, Sean Kruzen, it is West
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Carroll, and I'm just so proud to be here at this moment to share
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this time with you. In history, there's no one outside when I have
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this conversation with September twenty twenty three, and this is what we have to
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talk about. That's right, that's what we have. We have paper machee
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Aliens, ladies and gentlemen. If you are new to this podcast or just
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have not listened to enough to figure out who and who I am and what
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I do, let me just say this for the record, ladies and gentlemen.
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I am a faculty member at a university. I have a PhD in
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astrophysics, and I teach people, both college students and the general public about
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what we know from science about space. So let me step on that platform
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just a moment. You know, West and I like to have a really
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good time on this show. In general, we like to cut things up
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and take a lighter, a lighter approach to examining space news. But recently
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we've had to insert a new, you know, quasi segment into our show,
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which we first titled They're Saying Weird Things in DC, but then we
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had to modify that title because they always say weird things in DC. We
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had to modify that title to say They're saying weird things in DC about UAPs
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Unidentified Anomalous phenomena, and we've run several stories, and you know, quasi
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segments on our podcast You're Made of Stars, where we take a lighter hearted
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look at space news. We've had to run several segments and just say,
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hey, they're saying this, so it's news. So we're gonna talk about
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it for a minute, and then we're going to go back and talk about
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the James Webb space telescope. That's literally my approach this morning. But I
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will tell you, within the last twenty four hours it's been extra weird.
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And so before we get to the they're saying weird things in DC about UAP
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segment, they're saying really weird things in the capital of Mexico, ladies and
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gentlemen, I would point you to a story from MSN dot com. It
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is not the only story of this nature, but MSN has done a very
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good job of within the last twenty four hours going out and actually talking to
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scientists about the so called presentation that wasn't done in front of the legislature of
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the Nation of Mexico within the last twenty four hours, where alien bodies that
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were alleged to have been uncovered in the deserts of Peru, the high deserts
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of Peru, where the Nazca lines are located. If you don't know what
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those are, just google it Nazca lines. So these bodies were allegedly excavated
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from that area back in twenty seventeen. And then we're being presented before the
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legislature of Mexico, an actual nation, a pretty prominent nation on this planet
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that we live on. The governmental officials were being presented with mummies of what
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we're purported to be creatures not of this earth. I am gonna notably say
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right now that I am not aware of one scrap of scientific evidence of any
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kind that these were in any way legitimate, And neither did they discuss in
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this presentation in the Mexican legislature any evidence that these were actual, real,
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non human mummies. Ladies and gentlemen. The presenters made various suggestions that DNA
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evidence had been extracted and other things, but they didn't actually turn these mummies
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over to any kind of scientific authority of any kind to perform any kind of
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analysis. So I know that you've probably seen on your major news carriers and
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hell on facebooks that alien mummies have been revealed to the world in Mexico.
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Let me also remind you and thank you MSN for doing this good research.
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Let me also remind you that the Peruvian prosecutor's office for the country, the
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nation's prosecutor's office, back in twenty seventeen, found that the bodies were actually
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quote recently manufactured dolls which had been covered with a mixture of paper and synthetic
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glue to simulate the presence of skin unquote credit MSN reporting. So it's not
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even like these were new mummies. Yeah, it's a paper mache mummies that
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were rolled out in front of the Peruvians back in twenty seventeen and they said
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no, all right, So well there's that. Well, and before we
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dive into where all of this becomes more relevant, because there is a connection
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to what's been going on here in the States, in in our government,
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in our Congress. So we're gonna we're gonna talk about Ryan Graves in a
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second. I just want to quickly give you know, a little on my
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resume, because you laid yours out to make it clear what our role your
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role is here on this show as far as what you do. You're an
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actual scientist, I you know, an award winning broadcaster, right, a
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humorist, and a guy who comes on here and tries to play the role
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of surrogate for the listener. I want to be the guy who can ask
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the questions that maybe they want to ask, but they're not on the show.
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They're not dialed right in to ask the questions. So that's what I
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try to do. And then I make uranus and you know, mooning jokes
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do that kind of thing from time to time, So that's my role in
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it. Now. When I'm watching the news and I see kind of a
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brief summary of the news stories for the day and they mentioned, you know,
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some politician, or they say the word impeachment, or they say,
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you know, various topics of the day, and then they just throw in
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the middle of it a picture of an alien body and then they say,
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oh yeah, and this was presented to Mexican Congress, and then they move
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on to the next story quickly, and I go hit the rewind button on
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that remote real quick. For me, I miss something there. There was
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something there that seemed to go by much more quickly than it should have,
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and I feel like it should have been maybe the top story if there was
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any credibility to it. And then of course I sent you a you know,
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a picture this morning of this thing and said, I guess we're gonna
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be talking about this today. And I feel like because we have to just
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a little bit. Now you've you've perfectly explained why there's many, many,
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many reasons. Well, we should start at being a skeptic, and I
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think that's where a lot of science should come from, is being that skeptic
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right away. And then we've got other reasons to be skeptical, you know,
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starting in twenty seventeen in Peru, and you know these paper things and
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then like I kind of think maybe they blew up a balloon and then put
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the paper machet on it and then pop the balloon. Maybe that was what
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they did. I don't know. I don't know how they how you would
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create such a thing, but it sounds like an interesting project. Now this
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becomes really important because they brought in a spell, actual guest for this thing,
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perhaps to give it more credibility. I don't know, but maybe this
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is someone who shouldn't have some concerns about his own credibility because he was there.
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Yes, So now we get to where the line gets a tad gray.
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Let's see what I did there. Yeah, gray like aliens, like
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gray grace. Anyway, the line gets a tad gray here because the United
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States has been doing its own investigations into unidentified aerial phenomenon or UAPs, and
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earlier this summer there were some very credible witnesses who walked up in front of
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the United States Congress and testified before Congress about various videos that were captured by
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naval jets encountering basically craft is a good word for them, that they could
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not explain they were performing anomalous maneuvers and did not behave according to the understood
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laws of aeronautics and flight. So then that peaked folks's interest because that constitutes
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some level of physical evidence. One of the people who testified before Congress earlier
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the summer was a naval aviator by the name of Ryan Graves, US fighter
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pilot and someone who actually encountered these objects with his aircraft and recorded some of
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the video somehow. Ryan Graves, a seemingly reputable witness when he testified before
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the United States Congress as a naval aviator, was present in Mexico when they
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unveiled the paper mache aliens. Ryan, who are your handler's buddy? I
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mean, you have some interesting and important things to maybe add to a conversation
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about UAPs, And somehow you got doped into being in Mexico for this shin
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dig Ryan, buddy, buddy friend, Hire West Carroll as your handler for
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all media relations. He's right here on this podcast. He's waiting for your
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call. Just reach out to us. Through the connections from the Mate of
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Stars podcast. Ryan Graves and West Carol can keep you away from these sort
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of events, just like Jerry McGuire on the movie kept you know, his
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his clients out of trouble anyway. So well, let me just also the
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data. So the data. I was I was gonna use a different quote,
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but I like that one that works very well. But I was gonna
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say, I think you know Hall of Fame wide receiver Randy Moss once said,
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come on man, come on man, what are we doing here?
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How did you end up there? But anyway, were you just down having
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a vacation in Mexico City and somebody came by and say, hey, aren't
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you Ryan Graves? You want to come talk to Congress? Well, sure
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I do. And then they unveiled paper machee aliens before you know what was
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going on, because I don't know why the heck else you were there,
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Ryan Graves, buddy. Respect by the way, respect, you're a naval
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aviator. Yeah, you land aircraft on the decks of aircraft carriers in the
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dark. Yeah. One of the highest human achievements possible. So I'm given
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respect, Ryan Graves. Well, and it's important with you on that stage.
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Yeah. Why it's important to note that he understands that he shouldn't have
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been there, right, I mean, he's at a point now where he's
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acknowledging I don't know how this happened. He said that he had accepted this
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invitation quote hoping to keep up the momentum of government interest in pilot experiences with
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UAP. Again, this is a quote from MSN dot com and they're story.
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He further goes on to say, unquote Unfortunately, yesterday's demonstration was a
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huge step backwards for this issue. He wrote on Twitter, I will continue
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to raise awareness of UAP as an urgent matter for aerospace safety, national city,
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national security, and science. I'm sorry for my bad reading there aerospace
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safety, national security, and science, but I am deeply disappointed by this
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unsubstantiated stunt on the right side, Ryan Graves, on the right side of
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history there, Why were you there? So we know, we know there's
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has been talk of, uh, you know, the government has the aliens,
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they've got the bodies, they've had them Roswell Area fifty one, all
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this talk, all this conspiracy talk for so long. I love that movie.
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By the way, I love that movie. It was great, it
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was fun. So let's let's just now a minute, say, I guess
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maybe the timing of yesterday's event in Mexico probably not a coincidence that it happened
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the day before what happened with the NASA's independent study team today, however,
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I just can't help but wonder, like, were they just trying to get
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extra eyes and extra attention on what was going on in Mexico by inviting him?
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Or is I'm sorry, and I know I sound like one of those
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guys, but is someone trying to destroy his credibility? And I guess I'm
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just asking this from the again, I'm the surrogate. I'm playing the role
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of the audience member. Is someone just trying to blow up this guy's credibility?
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When and therefore being one of the solid potential witnesses and all of this
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important to testimony, thereby blowing up the whole argument. Now we got some
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answers on some of what's going on with NASA's independent study team and where that's
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all going, But I can't help it just go. It just seems like
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a hit job on a guy, doesn't it? A hit job on not
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just a guy, but an entire effort to with any scientific credibility actually look
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into something that seems on the surface unusual. Ladies and gentlemen, Once again,
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I'm going to be cautious when waiting into this freaking swamp, and I'm
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just going to say that I speak with confidence about the things I know from
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science, and I only speak with speculation and humor about those things that of
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which I do not know because there is no data for my eyes to see.
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So I'm going to speak with speculation and humor on the next point,
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which is simply this, Why the heck did this come out? Within less
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than twenty four hours of the announcements from the committee by the National Aeronautics and
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Space Administration looking into the phenomena of UAP at press conference which have been announced
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well ahead of the actual event, and somehow paper mache aliens are rolled out
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in a foreign country less than twenty four hours, or at least it hits
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the news cycle less than twenty four hours prior to the actual scientists and scientific
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investigators from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration coming out and trying to talk with
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some form of rationality about this issue of UAPs, ladies and gentlemen. I
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personally, opinion, do not think that was a coincidence. There, I've
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said it. And now, this is what we do on podcasts, right,
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We speculate, we start conspiracy theories, and I don't know if I'm
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doing that, but I don't want to start a conspiracy theory. But it
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just seems weird. Wess that it was less than a day yeah, before
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nassa's UAP panel begins their public announcements. What do you think, my friend?
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Because we are simply speculating here, and we are, and I mean
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that's why I asked the question. The timing of it is just really too
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convenient. I don't know now, I understand without very clear connected dot evidence,
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but I do feel like I could get my board out and get my
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red string and I could start connecting things. But you know, it is
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it is a very strange timing for all of it. And to have such
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an important part of this testimony to be basically put out on display with the
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paper machee aliens, it just it. Anyway. The event today, though,
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sort of laid a few things out for us, gave us a little
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bit of information and what the plans were. And then the very first person
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who got up and asked a question at the press conference, as an independent
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journalist of some kind, had had an interesting, an interesting response to the
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whole thing as far as the questions that we're being asked because uh, and
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it's we should point out that, you know, Bill Nelson, administrator for
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NASA, was one of the speakers in this event, and you know,
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basically said we don't have any evidence that the UAPs are of extraterrestrial origin,
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which led the very first person to ask a question to go, well,
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how can you prove it's not? And you go, this is if we
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don't know what they are, how can we prove it's not? And he
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said, that's not what I said. And I'm paraphrasing all of that,
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but I mean that's exactly the approach that NASA has to take to it,
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to say, we're just trying to find the answers and we're not trying to,
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uh, you know, create any sort of hype, any sort of
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they're trying to uh, what were the words that they use, destigmatized the
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reporting in it And then comes less than twenty four hours after the paper mache
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aliens. So he didn't actually address the aliens. He didn't talk about the
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Mexico paper mache aliens. But you couldn't help. But when he said destigmatized
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reporting efforts, she couldn't help but imagine in my head the paper mache Mexican
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aliens. I'm sorry, Peruvian, Peruvian aliens, wow, Peruvian by way
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of Mexico. And I don't know if they have a passport. I mean,
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I don't know what's going on there anyway. So so let me just
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get away from that and talk about the thing that has actually maybe scientifically important
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in this whole conversation, which is actually the panel coming out and discussing this
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issue, which West We've been through so much, buddy, you and me.
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We've lived through COVID, We've lived through a national upheaval. We've lived
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through lockdowns and masks and the death of friends, and it's been hard and
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weird and it's changed our world. So now we're in twenty twenty three,
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going, yeah, a big deal. There's aliens. I don't know whatever
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I mean. In nineteen eighty five, when I was a journalism student at
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the University of Southern Colorado, this would have been stunning. But okay,
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now it's just like a well, you know what I mean, as a
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panel investigating UFOs, And didn't they always have that? No, no,
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they did not have an external panel investigating unidentified flying objects or aerial phenomenon or
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a novelist, none of that. It's a first Okay, So let me
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lower my blood pressure and just return to science. The question that you addressed,
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how do we prove they're not from another world? The answer data for
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all of my Columbia State University students or any students of science out there listening
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to this particular podcast. There's something called the scientific method, and the scientific
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method is a way to assert certain concepts from the realm of speculation into the
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realm of commonly accepted theories and theory. As a meaning, ladies and gentlemen,
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it doesn't mean a swag. That doesn't mean a wild guess. It
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means something else. It means that you have actually found evidence that supports an
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idea, and so therefore you postulate a theory. And ladies and gentlemen,
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this is not a theory because we have not had evidence to support beyond a
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shadow of a doubt a the existence even the existence of UAPs, but B
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that they are in any way associated with any kind of extraterrestrial presence. Okay,
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so let's just start there. B. The commission themselves came out and
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said, as good scientists would, that right now they have no evidence that
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UAP events are of extraterrestrial origin. That is a lack of evidence, therefore
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denying the ability to carry out the scientific process because speculation doesn't cut it.
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Science speaks to data, evidence and what that evidence can tell us about the
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nature of physical reality, and they're just simply is not enough. What they
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have said, quite cleverly from this commission is we see some data. Some
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data does exist. It points to very interesting ideas. And ladies and gentlemen,
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they did not just collect the data from these naval aviators off San Diego's
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coast. They looked at a plethora of data from a variety of sources,
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and the vast majority of them were easily identifiable as everyday common occurrence phenomenon such
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as aircraft, weather balloons, the planet Venus, unusual apparitions of the sunlight
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in the clouds, and a variety of other things which I get phone calls
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all about down here at the Space Science Center, and I have to say,
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no, that was simply chromatic aberration on the bright star. Serious,
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and what you saw was not a UFO. Okay, all right, So
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I'm a little bit in this area as well, so I can tell you
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that what they said was they simply don't have data of sufficient resolution to carry
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out any more significant investigations. Beyond that, there are some phenomenon phenomena reported
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in this plethora of data that still defy explanation, but that's in part because
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the data is insufficient to confirm or deny what they have seen. However,
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some of this data appears to be compelling enough, and West set aside the
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paper mache aliens for a moment. This is the headline, if you wanted
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to the actual science headline. Ladies and gentlemen, this group did not come
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out and deny the existence of UAP, but instead tacitly confirmed the existence of
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phenomenon that were compelling enough that they simply could not explain even the poor quality
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data, and therefore they need to actually establish an office within NASA to further
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investigate these few phenomenon within these plethora of other reports. So NASA has appointed
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a Director of UAP Research, and this person will use both artificial intelligence machine
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learning combined with space based data collection resources to investigate UAP. That's a stunning
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headline, folks, because anytime NASA establishes an office, there are dollars tied
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to that because they have to pay people, and so this office actually has
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a budget. They're not going to establish this office with a budget attached to
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it if they think the data are insignificant and will lead nowhere. There's the
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headline. So this NASA office is going to coordinate with a larger, larger
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governmental entity called the All Domain anomal Resolution Office or very cleverly right straight out
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of the X files called ARROW a RO, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office
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ARROW. They're going to collaborate or coordinate with the ARROW office all of the
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governmental reporting on UAP phenomenon. That's the headline. Friends, paper mache aliens
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in Mexico, not important, the establishment of an office within the structure of
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NASA to investigate UAPs because they can't explain away everything that is important. All
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right. We follow that up with, hey, did they just using the
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James Webb space telescope discover life on another planet? Maybe? Maybe maybe within
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the same you know, a week long news cycle. Maybe maybe the James
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web Space Telescope found signatures of alien life. Maybe maybe what sort of home
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craft materials are these made out of? I wonder if only weekend? No,
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No, this is one of those many incredible uses for the James web
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Space telescope as on an exoplanet, a discovery of basically potential well I guess
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they are life chemicals, but it could be a potential sign for life.
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But again, thank goodness for that scientific method. I wish that there are
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two previous stories that we just discussed never existed, because west we could start
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off our show with this really cool story that actually is important. Wouldn't that
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be awesome? It would be that we didn't have to talk about paper mache
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aliens and NASA looking into UAP kind of enjoyed it, though I'm just being
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from the perspective of the audience, Sarah. Yet I kind of enjoyed it.
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It was fun, you know. You know, I really enjoyed it
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too. It was awesome. So but now let's move on to actual astronomical
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science, ladies and gentlemen. NASA's James Webb Space Telescope has discovered the presence
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of methane and carbon dioxide, as we know well here on Earth, two
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very important greenhouse gases produced by living things as well as automobiles and other sources
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of energy. But they found these not in Earth's atmosphere, but in the
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atmosphere of a of a planet that's orbiting around another star. We call that
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an exoplanet and has a very clever catalog called the K two DA eighteen B.
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So K two Dash eighteen is a star and the B represents the second
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planet known to orbit that star. This is the second planet around this sun.
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The K two eighteen B an exo planet at about eight point six times
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as massive as the Earth. We know that as a subnet Tunian object,
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so it's like Neptune kind of it. Orbits a cool dwarf star called K
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two eighteen. But that planet B is in the habitable zone of that other
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star. That's where water could potentially exist on its surface. It's at that
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just right distance, not too hot, not too cold, and so it
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makes it very interesting. And this whole planetary system lies about one hundred and
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twenty light years from the Earth, which means you jump out on the bypass,
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you take the left at the first convenience store, and you travel about
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one hundred and twenty light years from Earth and you run into K two eighteen.
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You look for the second planet around that star, and you will find
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methane and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere of that planet. But west that's not
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even the most compelling thing. We need to set things up a little bit
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more to talk about an even more compelling scenario for this weird exoplanet, and
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that is dimethyl sulfide. So there's this weird substance called dimethyl sulfide which we
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find in the atmosphere of the Earth, which there appears to be embedded within
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the spectroscopic signatures of absorption elements in the atmosphere of this exoplanet. Dimethyl dimethyl
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sulfide d MS, ladies and gentlemen on Earth. This substance is only known
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to be produced by life. The bulk of DMS in Earth's atmosphere. By
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the way, this is from a story for NASA dot gov. Although they're
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out run around looking for aliens, so how can you believe those people?
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But whatever NASA dot gov is where the story is from, Ladies and gentlemen,
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The bulk of DMS in Earth's atmosphere is emitted from phytoplankton in marine environments.
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Let me tell you just a little bit more about K two D eighteen
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B. It's thought to be something called a high Sean planet, the word
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high Sean being a derivative of two other English words hydrogen and ocean hydrogen oceans
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smash them together high Sean. It is a hypothetical type planet described as a
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hot water covered world with a hydrogen atmosphere. But remember water has oxygen in
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it H two oh, so therefore the presence of the life necessary compound of
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oxygen would be all also present in these high Sean worlds. K two D
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eighteen B has all of the parameters that would make it a really good candidate
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for one of these high Sean worlds. Hydrogen atmosphere, water covered surface,
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and it's thought that the spectral signature of dimethyl sulfide is in the spectrum of
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this planet and we only know of that compound being created by life sources and
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not by any other geological sources here on the Earth. WHOA Okay, so
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we know and we've talked about this many many times before. When they start
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talking about exoplanets, and they start any planet in general, but we start
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taking specially we started talking about exoplanets, the possibility of life begins with water.
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And we've you know, we've talked about as far as liquid water.
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That is a certain that's sort of the first basis for being able to have
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as a marker for this because obviously life would need that you take that,
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and then you take in the fact that they've this presence of dimethyl sulfide certainly
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would lead this to be And remember we're not talking about mummified aliens. When
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we start talking about life on another world, it begins with some sort of
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simple life form, some sort of simple cell life form that could exist there,
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and this certainly would qualify for that on this type of planet as a
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possibility, and having to go through the whole process of actually doing the science,
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not showing up at a press conference with something that your kid made with
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macaronian glue. It's a long way for me to go to get to the
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macaroni joke, right, I mean was that? I mean it could be
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a thing. Maybe Halloween's coming up. I think I'm gonna make some aliens
37:00
of macaronian glues and present them to the Mexican government. That's what that's my
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next goal. I think that's I think that's a good Halloween project. Ladies
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and gentlemen, we're talking about the actual data signature of potential life, and
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maybe not life capable of flying around in spacecraft, but living organisms as we
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know it. It's always it's always the protocol. You have to throw it
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in on every sci fi movie, right, Life as we know it?
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Life as we know it is dependent on that H two that West was describing.
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So we look for planets that live in the habitable zone where liquid water
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can exist on the surface. Liquid water being an extraordinarily unusual substance. Water
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itself is mostly either solid or gas, only in the rarest of environments can
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exist as a liquid. And now we've found a planet where it can exist
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as a liquid where we see methane and carbon dioxide in good supply in the
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atmosphere and a potential trace of dimethyl sulfide. By the way, it's important
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to say the folks the James Webb Space Telescope have come out and said they
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need to do follow up observations on this particular one. Right. Their data
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is not good enough to absolutely confirm DMS in the spectrum. They want to
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go out and do more detailed observations of K two eighteen B and so they
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can get better confirmation of the existence of dms. But ladies and gentlemen,
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that is by far a more credible path to go down to look for alien
38:27
life, yeah, than anything that we're in those two sarcop guy in the
38:32
Mexican Parliament. And it's also worth noting to just that. Earlier today at
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that press conference, the NASA Administrator Bill Nelson did say that in the billions
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of galaxies with billions of stars, you know, there's a really good possibility
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he believes some life out there. Maybe he was talking about this one,
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he could be talking about K two eighteen B. So, folks, just
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to put a finer point on what West just said, Bill Nelson, the
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director of NASA, was actually commissioned by officers from the federal government to come
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up the qualitative analysis of how likely NASA scientists believed that it would be,
39:17
numerically speaking, for life to exist in our universe. And so they did
39:22
an estimation similar to what we know as the Drake equation. They did an
39:27
estimation about the number of stars and the number of planets around those stars,
39:31
in the number of galaxies that we know about, and the number of those
39:36
planets that would be rocky worlds or some kind of life supporting world and the
39:39
number of those planets that could have liquid water on their surface, and a
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number of those planets in which life might actually try to evolve. And they
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came up with an estimate of trillions of worlds that would satisfy those conditions.
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So Bill Nelson did kind of open up today's press conference with that number.
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So so there you go. I mean, you know what I'm saying is
40:06
it's aliens. Aliens are out there. I'm just convinced. But that's merely
40:10
opinion, ladies and gentlemen, that is not science. Coming up after a
40:15
quick break, an American sets a record for time in space and he has
40:21
a connection to the Chattahoochee Valley. We'll talk about Frank Rubio next. I
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thought the Drake equation had something to do with hotline bling, but maybe I'm
40:50
confusing it with somebody else. I don't know what's going on. All right,
40:52
let's talk. It seems like maybe like six months ago, we started
40:55
talking about the fact that astronaut Frank rue Bo, who was once here in
41:01
the Chattahoochee Valley. I guess as a member of the military. It was
41:07
he'd gone to space about a year ago, and you know, six months
41:12
ago there was an issue with his ride home, and suddenly it became a
41:15
scenario where he said, while an American astronaut may do something no other American
41:19
astronaut has done, spend a whole year on the International Space Station. And
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we're coming up on that year. How many times, West if I had
41:29
a nickel for every time I was at a party and my ride's car broke
41:32
down and I had no way home. You know, this just happened to
41:37
me so many times. And then you know, I'm calling around to various
41:39
space agencies and governments around the world, say hey, can you give me
41:43
a lift and they're saying, you know, no, you know, we
41:46
don't have a ride for you. So I mean if I had a nickel
41:51
anyway. So this is basically what happened to Frank Rubio. American NASA astronaut
41:54
Frank Rubio rode to space starting in September of last year with a group of
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cosmonauts. So Frankie got to evaluate your life choices. You have to know
42:08
who you're going to the party with, so you're going up with cosmonauts.
42:12
So seward rode up to the ISS with some cosmonauts on the very on the
42:15
very robust and credible spacecraft called the soy Us. But after the soy Us
42:22
attached to the International Space Station and both the two cosmonauts and Frank Rubio were
42:29
inside the ISS doing very important scientific work advancing the frontiers of space exploration and
42:37
our scientific knowledge, their ride sprung a leak. The soy US craft called
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the MS twenty three. I'm sorry the MS twenty I don't need to confuse
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my MSS. It's MS twenty two. Their ride MS twenty two sprung a
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leak in December of twenty twenty two and sprayed ammonia coolant all over the neighborhood
43:02
of the International Space Station, which made giant ice fountains of ammonia and looked
43:07
very attractive for a short period of time, but also looked rather terrifying back
43:10
in December of twenty twenty two, and see, without the coolant, you
43:15
can't take everybody home. So that ride was disabled for three astronauts. The
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Russian said, well, it might get a little hot in there, but
43:24
we think we can get our two cosmonauts back, but we don't know about
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this Rubio guy. So Frank didn't have a ride home. So what Ross
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Cosmos did is in February of twenty twenty three, they send up the MS
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twenty three. And that's where I confuse my numbers. The MS twenty three
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was a different spacecraft sent up to the International Space Station to dock there to
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be the ride home for everybody. Okay, so it's been up there for
43:51
a while, but because of other transportation consideration and astronaut crew changes and a
43:57
variety of things happening at the International Space Station that's a pretty complicated flight environment,
44:02
they just couldn't let them go home at that time. And so Frank
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Rubio, Sergei Prokopiev and Dmitri Pellaton, who are all scheduled to fly up
44:15
in September and come home about six months later. They've been up there since
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September of twenty twenty two and have now completed almost a year in space.
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They will complete more than a year in space, making Frank have the single
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longest space flight in NASA astronaut history. So, Frank Rubio, congratulations,
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sir. You have been up there on a single mission longer than any other
44:45
astronaut that has ever flown for NASA, and you are now the record holder,
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sir. As we record the show, they are scheduled to come back
44:53
on the twenty seventh of September twenty twenty three, and that would bring them
44:59
home in more than a year up in space, three hundred seventy seven days
45:04
of memory serves, and so so he would be the longest single mission astronaut
45:09
flight in the American Space program history. Proud to have had you part of
45:15
our community. Yeah, he was apparently, as you said, with the
45:21
military station at what was then Fort Benning which is now Fort Moore here in
45:24
our Chattahoochee Valley. Frank says this, there was a quote from Frank from
45:30
this story from space dot Com. By the way, he said this,
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as much as it was a challenge to say an extra six months, I'm
45:36
so grateful that the agency was able to say, Hey, you know what
45:39
the safe thing to do would be to fire up a new spacecraft and have
45:45
my crew and me wait and ensure a more safe return. I am looking
45:51
forward to a return on a more safe and more secure spacecraft. So that's
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that's the quote from Frank Rubio. Frank, we wish you the best,
46:00
and when we get back down, we are going to extend you an invitation
46:02
to come and speak with us as a member of our community here on the
46:06
Mative Stars podcast and quite possibly at Columba State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
46:12
So Frank, I know you're listening while you're up there trying to run
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the International Space Station right now. But yeah, thank you for listening to
46:17
Major Stars, Frank Rubio, and we will we will get that invitation out
46:22
to you soon. On the edge of his seat during the paper Machee Aliens
46:25
segment, all right, let's talk about Starship because they're a little closer to
46:30
launching as we're so many NASA astronauts listening to the paper mache alien conversation.
46:36
I'm sure there's a large astronaut contingent who would have stayed tuned for that whole
46:39
discussion. So thank you for your patients, all you members of NASA's Astronaut
46:45
Corps. Somewhere somewhere around here on my desk, I've got a friendship bracelet
46:50
that was made by aliens. Of course it was. I don't know.
46:54
Is it from Mexico? No, no, no no, they found it
46:59
in Guatemala. Oh not Peru. Okay anyway, So, ladies and gentlemen,
47:05
two more quick hits here on today's episode today's prolonged episode of Made of
47:08
Stars Two quick hits. One Elon Musk SpaceX has come out and said Starship
47:15
is ready to go, baby. All we have to do is get that
47:19
signed document from the Federal Aviation Administration. And he came out on what used
47:23
to be called Twitter but is now called x X and said, congrats to
47:30
the SpaceX. I'm sorry, congrats to SpaceX for completing and documenting the fifty
47:35
seven items required by the FAA for flight two of Starship unquote meaning, hey,
47:39
FAA put you on notice. We've checked off all the boxes. We're
47:44
ready to fly. Put the blue ink on that document, get it to
47:46
us, and we're ready to go. So SpaceX has announced a flight date
47:51
yet, but Elon Musk has said that flight two can take place pretty much
47:54
as soon as the FAA awards a launch license. That regulatory step has not
47:59
yet happen as as we know. Find out all of this and more on
48:02
the space dot com story. All Right, Nebraska seeing some northern lights.
48:08
One more quick hit. If you're seeing Aurora borealis in Nebraska, it's weird.
48:15
That does not happen all the time because Nebraska as at a longitude of
48:21
forty point nine degrees, not even halfway from the equator to the north Pole.
48:28
So if you're seeing glowing skies in Nebraska and it has nothing to do
48:32
with UAPs, if it's solar phenomenon, that means that there's been a pretty
48:37
big solar event. And that's exactly what's taking place here. In the last
48:40
twenty four hours, a surprise geomagnetic storm has erupted on the Sun. It
48:45
hurled a CME at the Earth back on September the twelfth. That CME has
48:52
now encountered Earth's geomagnetic field and sparked a G two class geomagnetic storm, so
49:00
magnetically, the CME remained connected to our planet for more than thirteen hours.
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All of this from the excellent reporting from spaceweather dot com. That's the website,
49:09
ladies and gentlemen, that you need to follow to stay in touch with
49:13
all of the events taking place on the Sun and it's interconnectedness with the Earth.
49:17
And if you go there and look at the thirteenth of September in their
49:22
archive page, you will see absolutely beautiful photographs of Aurora borealis that appeared over
49:28
the United States Midwest, both in Missouri and Nebraska, and the amateur astronomers
49:34
that photographed that nighttime sky beautiful shots. Check out the story on spaceweather dot
49:39
com. Right here on Native Stars podcast is where you heard about it,
49:43
Ladies and gentlemen. Full disclosure, the Friendship bracelet was made by my niece
49:47
Lucy in Australia, so just a heads up, I don't want to give
49:52
any false information. All right, let's talk about Music under the Dome because
49:54
it's coming back a new season of it at the Coca Cola Space Science Center
49:59
a concert experience. It's unlike any you've ever experienced before, unless you've already
50:01
been to music under the Dome. I've not ever been to a music under
50:06
the Dome concert and seen a UAP. Let me just be clear about that.
50:08
That's good. That's good. It's important to note or paper mache aliens.
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I have no paper mache aliens. If you want a UAP free experience,
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come on down on October three to Columbis State University's Coca Cola Space Science
50:23
Center right here in the uptown area of beautiful Columbus, Georgia, and experience
50:29
a concert that is unique, that is special. A collaboration with the Schwab
50:32
School of Music here at Columbis State University, the Schwab Artists will be performing
50:37
inside of Columbis State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center in the Planetarium with visuals
50:44
choreographed by our very own planetarium director, mister Lance tankers Lee. And that
50:47
concert is going to be taking place within the Omnisphere Theater, our planetarium,
50:52
beginning at five thirty eight pm on October the third. There are still tickets
50:58
available and they are are cheap, ladies and gentlemen, so from the experience
51:02
that you're going to get with the excellent musicianship of the artists from the Shrobe
51:06
School of Music combined with the unbelievable graphics choreographed to that music presented by mister
51:10
lands Tankers lea here at the Space Science Center. It's a very enjoyable concert.
51:15
And by the way, there's a wine and cheese reception ahead of time
51:19
that your ticket price gets you in four free ninety five free ninety five,
51:22
so you can check it out. Ladies and gentlemen, go to our website
51:25
if you want information about this and more, but not you aps or paper
51:30
machee aliens. Visit the website www dot cc SSC dot org. Charlie Charlie
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