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People on the Other Side with Laura Lynne Jackson · Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler

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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Chelsea Handler. Welcome to Life Will Be the
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  Speaker 1: Death of Me, a production of I Heart Radio Good Morning.
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  Speaker 1: I am here with someone that I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of my listeners and bands are very interested in hearing from.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Laura Lynn Jackson. She is a well
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  Speaker 1: let me, how do you classify yourself psychic medium? That
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  Speaker 1: would be the exact proper way to say it, psychic
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  Speaker 1: psychic medium. You've written two books so far. The first
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  Speaker 1: book was called The Light between Us The Light between Us,
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  Speaker 1: and the second book that just came out is called Signs,
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  Speaker 1: The Secret Language of the Universe. And I met Laura
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  Speaker 1: Lynn with my book editor, who helped me my most
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  Speaker 1: recent book, Life Will Be the Death of Me, which
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  Speaker 1: this podcast is eponymous le named after. And we went
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  Speaker 1: to dinner and she was telling me all about her
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  Speaker 1: shenanigans as a psychic medium, and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I need a reading stat So we got on the
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  Speaker 1: phone one night and you gave me about I think
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  Speaker 1: a three hour reading. Yeah. I lose track of time
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  Speaker 1: when I read, so it probably was about three hours
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  Speaker 1: a three hour and I wrote a lot of it
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  Speaker 1: down and some of it happened, some of it did
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  Speaker 1: not happen. But you said at the time that these
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  Speaker 1: things You're big into manifestation and talking about writing things down,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, the type of person, the type of man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to go home and to write down
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  Speaker 1: all those qualities, which I believe I did. And well,
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  Speaker 1: he still hasn't come, but I believe he's coming. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's definitely coming. I was going to show up. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm getting really ready for a real relationship, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm I've almost completely lost interest in just sex. So
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  Speaker 1: something better come along. Anyway, your new book, I opened
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  Speaker 1: it up. I got an advanced copy and I started
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  Speaker 1: reading it and the first chapter was about oranges and
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  Speaker 1: how oranges are instruments that can be used to communicate
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  Speaker 1: with people who have died. Yeah, so that caught my
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  Speaker 1: attention because you know how I feel about oranges, and
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  Speaker 1: orange is the theme of my new cannabis line coming
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  Speaker 1: out my my book My Life Everything. Everybody needs an
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  Speaker 1: orange amazing, And and you can hand somebody an orange,
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  Speaker 1: it's like handing somebody a lifeline. Like so I throw
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  Speaker 1: them out at the end of my stand up shows.
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  Speaker 1: And I've taken the color orange back because it was
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  Speaker 1: such a disruptive color for me for so long after
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  Speaker 1: the election because it represented the color of our president.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to talk about oranges. How you start
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  Speaker 1: out with oranges, Because once you convinced me to start
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  Speaker 1: asking for signs from my brother, from my mother, I did,
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  Speaker 1: and then they would appear. And it was mind boggling
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't really believe in that, and I was
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  Speaker 1: cynical about it. I still am a little bit cynical
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  Speaker 1: about it. But I think when you really believe in something,
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  Speaker 1: that power is more powerful than almost anything. And I
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  Speaker 1: think you can make things happen. I think we all
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  Speaker 1: know you can make things happen. So when I asked,
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  Speaker 1: I asked my brother to show me an orange. Recently,
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  Speaker 1: I was in New Orleans. I have the picture on
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  Speaker 1: my phone. I said, please show me a picture out
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  Speaker 1: of place, and let me know if you're with my
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  Speaker 1: cousin who had recently passed away. Show me two oranges
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  Speaker 1: if you're with him, and show me one orange if
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  Speaker 1: you're not. And I saw a huge, giant, oversized, plastic
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  Speaker 1: kind of um orange on the roof of somebody's car,
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  Speaker 1: like the size of one of those what are those
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  Speaker 1: trump balloons? They make what are those things called them? Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so tired, I can't even think of words. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the things that fly up in the sky like an
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  Speaker 1: inflated It was like one of those on top of
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  Speaker 1: the car. And I was like, okay, so then Eddie's
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  Speaker 1: not there, my cousin who passed away. And I told
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  Speaker 1: my aunts, and I told my cousins who are really
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  Speaker 1: grieving because they lost their cousin and their father about
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  Speaker 1: this book. And I told them about the oranges with
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  Speaker 1: my brother, and I told them to pick a sign
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  Speaker 1: for each of them individually between their brother and their father.
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  Speaker 1: And they've all seen signs since it does work, So
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  Speaker 1: why does it work? It works because you know, death
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  Speaker 1: is not the end of anything. It's not a dead end.
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  Speaker 1: It's a doorway. And the relationships we have, the love
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  Speaker 1: that we have for the people who have crossed to
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  Speaker 1: the other side, that connects us, you know. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that when the when we cross, we are always
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  Speaker 1: looking number one to let our loved ones here. You
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  Speaker 1: know that we're really okay that you know, our consciousness
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  Speaker 1: survived the bodily death, and I think we definitely don't
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  Speaker 1: want our loved ones getting stuck in grief, you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting caught in a phase of living but not living,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, missing them so much physically that we
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  Speaker 1: can't enjoy life, and we can't you know, find our
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  Speaker 1: highest path and do what we're meant to do in
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  Speaker 1: the world. So I think the other side is deeply
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  Speaker 1: invested in trying to communicate with us and letting us
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  Speaker 1: know that they're around, they're watching over us, they love us,
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  Speaker 1: they're rooting us on, and yes, they can even guide us.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what this language is all about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether or not anyone recognizes it immediately, anybody who has
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  Speaker 1: someone on the other side, those people on the other
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  Speaker 1: side have been trying to guide you your whole life,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so they send default science. That's what I've
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  Speaker 1: learned to to identify a lot of the signs that
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  Speaker 1: they'll send if we don't specifically ask for something. But
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  Speaker 1: the beautiful thing is that when we do ask for
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  Speaker 1: something specific, we get it. That's why, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: totally get being skeptical. If I didn't have the abilities
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  Speaker 1: I have, if I didn't have the experiences that I've had,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd believe in it. I really
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  Speaker 1: don't um you bring up being cynical. You know, being cynical,
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  Speaker 1: it's not being skeptical. That means that you think everybody
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  Speaker 1: is out, you know, for themselves, and there's always an angle.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're cynical at all, Chelsea. I think
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  Speaker 1: you're yeah, I guess skeptical. I I think you're listening
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  Speaker 1: if you listen to this podcast. You know that I
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  Speaker 1: like to correct people for doing that, and then I
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  Speaker 1: do it myself. Yet No, but you know what words
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  Speaker 1: hold energy, and I just want you to know like
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  Speaker 1: you are definitely skeptical in all the great ways that
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  Speaker 1: you should be. I don't think anyone should ever listen
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  Speaker 1: to let's say, uh, supposed psychic medium tell them something
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  Speaker 1: and be like, oh okay, I believe that. Add percent.
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  Speaker 1: I think we are meant to go on our own
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  Speaker 1: journey as I'm understanding, and we're meant to test it
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  Speaker 1: and seek our answer. But the beautiful thing is is
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  Speaker 1: when you do get your answer, when you do get
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  Speaker 1: your sign, the most important step there is owning it.
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  Speaker 1: What I love about you is that you tested it,
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  Speaker 1: it came through for you, and now you are being
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  Speaker 1: a teacher to others, like, look what you're doing within
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  Speaker 1: your own family. You're helping to heal, you're helping to teach,
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  Speaker 1: You're helping others understand that there is still this language
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  Speaker 1: of communication. You know, we might not have arms to
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  Speaker 1: hug our loved ones once we cross. You might not
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  Speaker 1: have voice boxes to say I love you out loud,
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  Speaker 1: But there are other ways that our loved ones are
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  Speaker 1: coming through to us, are letting us know they're around
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  Speaker 1: and and helping us find our highest and best path
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  Speaker 1: because they have a way better view of things on
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  Speaker 1: the other side than we do here. Yeah, okay, So
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  Speaker 1: this book opens Signs the Secret Language of the Universe.
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  Speaker 1: This book opens with a story also about a group
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  Speaker 1: of sisters and a father who lost their mother. So
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  Speaker 1: these are testimonies of people who have asked, who have
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  Speaker 1: seen signs, or who have asked to see signs. And
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  Speaker 1: now this group of women didn't ask to see signs, right,
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  Speaker 1: they just she came upon. Why don't you tell the story?
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  Speaker 1: Which one are you talking about? The four three or
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  Speaker 1: four sisters that lost the mother? The Queen of Hearts? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts story. Yeah, that's a beautiful one, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that is this book that's like a couple of chapters
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  Speaker 1: in that's because I've I've retold the story and I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure I'm butchering it. Yeah. No, you're actually doing
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  Speaker 1: a great job, you know. And all these stories are
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  Speaker 1: beautiful because they're shared by people who have agreed to
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  Speaker 1: share their stories in order to help others understand. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a woman named Nancy and her mother, also named Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: had crossed, and you know, she hadn't asked for a
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  Speaker 1: sign or a language, and she was on a trip
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  Speaker 1: on an airplane when her mom crossed, and she had
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  Speaker 1: this sense that her mom was crossing. And when she
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  Speaker 1: got to her destination, she found something very odd on
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  Speaker 1: the ground. That day she found these playing cards and
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  Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts was flipped up like a to
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  Speaker 1: show the picture face up, thank you. See I can't
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  Speaker 1: speak in her York, New York. We're filming this, we're
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  Speaker 1: so she thought, you know what, if my mom would
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  Speaker 1: have been a playing card, she would have totally been
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  Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts, because she's all about love and
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  Speaker 1: she's all about that. And then she got to her
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  Speaker 1: next destination the next day, and there it was again,
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  Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts playing card like on a trail
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  Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and she started recognizing, like, I think
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  Speaker 1: this is my mom sending me a sign, and sure
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  Speaker 1: enough it started coming up again and again. So she
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  Speaker 1: kind of shared that with her family and they all
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  Speaker 1: started getting their own Queen of hearts and like really
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable ways, you know. And it was their moms showing
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  Speaker 1: them like I'm with you, I'm around, and it ended
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  Speaker 1: up really helping their entire family on this journey of grief. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's just so much more comforting to think that you
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  Speaker 1: can still communicate with people. That's all anyone wants. And
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  Speaker 1: when we're when we are sitting our pain and get
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  Speaker 1: stuck in our pain, you know, it's because we don't
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  Speaker 1: believe that we're still hurt by the loss of that
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  Speaker 1: instead of the gratitude for having had the time with them,
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  Speaker 1: and for the gratitude and having and and and and
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  Speaker 1: to honor their lives, you know. That was something we
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  Speaker 1: talked about, is honoring those who have died instead of
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  Speaker 1: mourning them. Of course we have to mourn for a
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  Speaker 1: period of time, and that's appropriate, but we get stuck
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  Speaker 1: in our grief, and we got stuck in our pain,
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  Speaker 1: and I know my entire book was about getting stuck
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  Speaker 1: in grief and not being aware to it or aware
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  Speaker 1: of it, you know. So it's really therapeutic. And I
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  Speaker 1: have a Facebook group which I absolutely love called the
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  Speaker 1: Orange Room, which was based on the book, where people
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  Speaker 1: come and they talk about grief and loss and it's
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  Speaker 1: a completely supportive community. And a lot of people on
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  Speaker 1: that page have talked about asking for science as well.
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  Speaker 1: So can you talk to us a little bit like
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  Speaker 1: about how this works? I mean, I believe in energy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't believe in God as a person
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  Speaker 1: of the sky. I believe in energy, and I believe
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  Speaker 1: the fact that you could feel somebody's energy just says
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  Speaker 1: alone how powerful it is. And that energy doesn't ever die,
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  Speaker 1: it transforms. That's a lot of Eckart tole. He talks
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  Speaker 1: about that, how your energy can't die, and when you're
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  Speaker 1: with a person who dies, you can see the shift
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  Speaker 1: and energy leave their body and that energy has to
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  Speaker 1: transform into something else and whatever else that is is
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  Speaker 1: essentially the essence of who you are as a as
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  Speaker 1: an energy, and that is scientific to me, and that
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. Um, So let's talk a little bit about that. Sorry, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I love that you have this this
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  Speaker 1: kind of forum and this safe space for people to
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  Speaker 1: examine and discuss and beyond their grief journeys. I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the one absolute for all of us here
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  Speaker 1: is that we're going to die, We're going to leave
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  Speaker 1: our physical bodies, and yet we live in fear. We
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  Speaker 1: don't talk about it. We don't talk about our grief.
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  Speaker 1: You know, grief can be a really private thing, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be. And I think that helping
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  Speaker 1: others through their grief and helping others honor their grief
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  Speaker 1: is one of the greatest and bravest things we can
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  Speaker 1: do for each other. Um. You know, it makes us
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  Speaker 1: very vulnerable to honor our grief and to to trust
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  Speaker 1: in that journey. But I think grief is really just
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  Speaker 1: the inverse of love. It's showing how much we love
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  Speaker 1: that person. I think it's very difficult when someone we
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  Speaker 1: love transitions out of their physical body to the other side,
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  Speaker 1: because we're so used to the physicality of things here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tangible things, things we can touch, things we
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  Speaker 1: can hold, So it's very unsettling to have faith in
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  Speaker 1: that or trust in that that that person is still
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  Speaker 1: connected to us, still watching over us, that that consciousness
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  Speaker 1: still exists, and that's where signs come in. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I became to understand very early on in doing
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  Speaker 1: what I do, um, you know, being a psychic medium,
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  Speaker 1: basically talking to the other side. Every time I would
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  Speaker 1: do a reading, I would be learning from the other side.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be learning about why we're here, which is really
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  Speaker 1: so simple to love and be loved, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I would learn how the other side would be already
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  Speaker 1: involved in our lives. And there would be some default
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  Speaker 1: signs they kept showing me. They would send people to
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  Speaker 1: get their attention. You know. One of them was putting
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  Speaker 1: coins in their loved ones path, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why that is. I think that when we leave our
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  Speaker 1: physical bodies, we turn back into light energy, and for
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  Speaker 1: whatever reason, it's easy for us to maybe manipulate small
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  Speaker 1: metallic objects like coins. So putting a coin in someone's
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  Speaker 1: path on a day that's meaningful or during a moment
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  Speaker 1: when they're really feeling full of grief, just to let
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  Speaker 1: them know like, hey, I'm with you, I'm around. And
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  Speaker 1: I always say, pay attention to the dates on the
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  Speaker 1: coins too, because sometimes there's a message there um messing
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  Speaker 1: with electrical electrical things. They love to do that. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, back in the day was flickering the lights,
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  Speaker 1: turning the TV on and off. But now that we
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  Speaker 1: have cell phones, I say, pay attention to words that
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  Speaker 1: might change in your textbox, odd texts. You might get
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  Speaker 1: phone calls on interesting dates, whether their anniversaries, crossing dates, birthdays,
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  Speaker 1: because they still love to acknowledge those things, and then
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  Speaker 1: sending us creatures. Certain creatures I've found are pretty prevalent birds,
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  Speaker 1: all different kinds of birds, you know, butterflies, dragonflies, ladybugs,
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  Speaker 1: even dear And so, you know, I'm always wondering what's
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  Speaker 1: the science behind this, because the truth is that I
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  Speaker 1: know this is real. I'm not a woo woo person.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was raised by two teachers. I was
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  Speaker 1: raised to be a critical thinker. It took me decades
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  Speaker 1: to come to terms with my abilities and own them
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  Speaker 1: and and honor them properly. And so I'm always wondering,
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  Speaker 1: how does this work. We're in this physical world and
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  Speaker 1: there are certain rules, you know, physical rules rules of
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  Speaker 1: you know, science that we abide by. But yet the
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  Speaker 1: other side can still talk to us. And what I
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  Speaker 1: found about the creatures they tend to send or all
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  Speaker 1: those creatures are guided by electromagnetic fields here on Earth,
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  Speaker 1: so I think somehow it's easy for them to get
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  Speaker 1: them in our path. What I quickly began to understand
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  Speaker 1: is that it's not a one sided language. We can
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  Speaker 1: ask them for specific things and they can send it
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  Speaker 1: to us, and I think that is more evidential than anything.
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  Speaker 1: The thing that I love about getting science is the
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  Speaker 1: more eccentric you make them, the more quickie you make them,
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  Speaker 1: the more that monkey mind part of your brain, that
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  Speaker 1: frontal lobe, you know, the part that the part that
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  Speaker 1: meditation teachers say we have to like distract when we meditate.
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  Speaker 1: That monkey mind, that chattering, that monkey mind will always
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  Speaker 1: wrestle with any spiritual experience you have. In any sign
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  Speaker 1: you see, you go oh, Like my friend said, where
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  Speaker 1: did you see the orange? And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the first time I asked for it, I
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  Speaker 1: was in a grocery store, but there were two one
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  Speaker 1: there were two oranges separated from the pack. And I
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  Speaker 1: walked in there specifically to see the oranges and see
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  Speaker 1: if there was a sign. And she said, well, obviously
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  Speaker 1: you're going to a grocery store. You know, there's an
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  Speaker 1: argument for everything and whatever and um, and I do
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  Speaker 1: believe it. I mean I know it now because I've
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  Speaker 1: because I've feel and you know when you say woo woo,
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  Speaker 1: I I know what you mean because of my resistance.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, there's an embarrassment to say I believe
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  Speaker 1: in I believe in it, and people are, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ashamed to say it and share it with people. But
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  Speaker 1: it's really all that's important is what you believe. And
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  Speaker 1: if you believe in anything, that power exceeds everything else.
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  Speaker 1: And it's such a comfort to know that I can
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  Speaker 1: tap into my mom and my brother now when I
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  Speaker 1: want to. I feel them around me all the time,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes they're not around. And that's a question I
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  Speaker 1: have for you. You know, my brother died a long
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  Speaker 1: long time ago. My mother died, you know, about ten
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  Speaker 1: years ago. What about you know, I think you believe
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  Speaker 1: in reincarnation. Okay, so how if if I'm still able
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  Speaker 1: to communicate with these people, that means that they haven't reincarnated,
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  Speaker 1: That means they're still in that land. What would you
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  Speaker 1: call that? I call it the other side Okay, the
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  Speaker 1: other side land. We'll call it that. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: if it's if they're if they're known for messing with technology,
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  Speaker 1: then that explains my entire life because ever since my
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  Speaker 1: mother died, that is something my mom would do as
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  Speaker 1: fun with my audio visual at my house, everything at
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  Speaker 1: my house is operated by iPads and nothing ever works.
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  Speaker 1: I can't get the music on or off. I can't
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  Speaker 1: get the TV on or off. I can't watch shows
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: that I like. I just have to watch what's on
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: because I'm scared about turning the channel. And that is
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: what my mother would do. She would torture me with electronics.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: So I never made that connection. So Brandon, if you're
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: listening in l A, which you're supposed to be, but
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: apparently he didn't get up early enough today, that's the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the explanation for our audio visual situation. So where if
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: you believe in reincarnation, what is holding these people back
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: from reincarnating? Or does everybody not reincarnate? Yeah, it's really
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: great questions like how does that whole thing work? You know.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a couple of things to try
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: to understand with that, and I'm very aware that the
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: other side has explained it to me in a sense
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: that it's the best that I can do to understand
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: it in the way they're giving it to me. But
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I'm very aware that my brain is really like a
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: dunce cap, you know, I have the small little mind.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Right now, here's what they've told me. They have told
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: me that earth is a school for our souls to
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: learn a collective lesson in love, and that we are
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: only as strong as our weakest link, which is why
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: each of us are invested in each other's journeys and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: part of each other's journeys and profound ways we can't
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: even fathom. Um, we are really always like our sole
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: essence is really always on what I call the other side,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and so our experiences here are almost like this is
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the visual they've given me. Have you ever do you
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: know what a may pole is? No? Okay, So I
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: learned this back in elementary school because we did this.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: It was like a pole in the ground. It it
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: dates back to like, you know, olden days, let's just
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: put it like that, And there were strings coming off
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: of it, and kids would hold the strings and walk
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: in a circle like singing songs sometimes to kind of celebrate,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you know. I had to start with a tennis ball,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: whether there were tennis balls that in Maple. Well, it
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: will counter like, you'll totally understand that this is what
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: they said. They said, all of our lives are really
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: happening at the same time. That time doesn't exist. Um.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: It exists here on earth, but it really doesn't exist
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: in theory, you know. And scientists have kind of acknowledges.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: They used to say we were three dimensional beings. In
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the last ten years, they're like, okay, actually we're four
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: dimensional beings and time is the fourth dimension. The interesting
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: thing too, is that quantum physicists are doing some experiments
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the relativity relativity of time and
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: how it affects things on They watch how a beam
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: of light passes through something it has to pass as
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: a wave or a beam or something like this, and
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: and depending on whether it chooses one in they do
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: experiments around this. Right, So what they've reached only proven
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm doing a terrible job. I'm butchering this, so
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: anybody who's listening can google this after. But what they've
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: recently proven is that we all know the past affects
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the future. But they have proven through watching this beam
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: of light that the future affects the past, which is
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: really this mind baggling, fascinating concept. But it also fits
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: into my understanding of reincarnation, which is we're all affecting
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: each other at all different times, and any any existence,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: any personality, any person we ever were, it's all tied
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: to our choressence on the other side, and so it's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: almost like we're Russian dolls within ourselves, but time is
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: allowing us to experience it here in a certain way.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Typically soul groups will reincarnate together, and so we usually
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: wait till all of us get over there, and we're
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: usually on a shared soul mission of understanding and healing
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and growing within both our own families and the world
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: outside of us, and then we choose to come back together.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: It's almost like in a cycle. You know. The University
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: of Virginia has a lab that's doing some really interesting
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: studies on past life recall is specifically in children, right,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: because there's no way a child can make up anything, right,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: there's no hidden agenda for a child to try and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: talk about past life recall. And it's fascinating what they
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: find and it seems like, um, if a soul comes
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: back a little too quickly. They have past life recall,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and I think that complicates their lifetime here because then
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: they're looking for their old mom and their old family
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and so forth. When we're meant to Okay, now, embrace
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: this or you know, I think that there's a lot
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I don't understand about it. But from what they've taught me,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: we come back together to heal each other, to help
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: each other grow. There has never been a time that
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I've read for someone and you know, they've told me like, Okay,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I got to the other side, but the person I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: was looking for wasn't here. They had left already. That
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: will never happen. The people we love, the essence of
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: who they are, their personalities are always on the other side.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: So you're saying, my mom could be on the other
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: side while also being here too, Yes she could, she could.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I don't have the sense that she is back here, right,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I don't either. Okay, Well, this sounds like a good
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: time to take a break. Something that is interesting when
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I meditate for a while. Anyway, when my book was
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: coming out, and I was really focused on spreading that
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: message of like, you know, getting yourself better and getting
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: yourself over your hurdles, and getting out the anger because
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the anger is only just hurt. And I would meditate
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: every morning and I would call, like, you know, my
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: brother and my mother would come and I would feel
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: they're like energy and light and I would vision myself
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: holding hands with them. And I did this meditation for
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: about three two or three months when my book was launching,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and I would meditate with them, and I would bring
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: everybody in that circle that I wanted, that needed healing,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that I knew in my life that needed help, and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: then I would go larger and you know, outward and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah the whole world. And my father never
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: his energy never comes near me. And he recently died
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: about a year ago, and he don't be and he
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: his energy is never there. And I know my dad
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: was a little bit my mom was. I would say
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: my mom was probably enlightened and my father was not. Yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I can tell you. It's interesting. First
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: of all, I just want to comment on the fact
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that you've been meditating. That's huge. You know, prayer, when
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: people pray, it's like we're directing thoughts to the other side, right,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And when we meditate, we're listening back. And I think
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: people don't understand that they can spend time with the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: people they loved who have crossed through meditation. It's just
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: a matter of opening your mind and opening your heart
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and doing that, and so that connection is very real
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and very healing. I also want to say that, you know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I actually listened to your book on audible. I love
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: listening to books too, because there's a vibration in someone's voice,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and I just I was laughing, I was crying, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I just I couldn't help but feel it was so
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: incredibly brave of you, and one of the things that
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I have happened for me. When I've read for somebody,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I can kind of tap into their energy. And I
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: just saw how you were being used as such an
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: incredible vehicle of light and healing in the world in
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: ways that you would ever be able to fully see
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and understand. But it kind of took my breath away.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And I could also feel your mom and brother being
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: part of that, like they're as much a part of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: that book as you are, as this team of light.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Then from the other side, you hear bringing about this
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: incredible healing in the world because all of our journeys
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: are interconnected and so through your journey, other people are
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: learning about their own journeys. It's it's really brave and beautiful.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. So I love that you're meditating to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: because that's spending quality time with them. It's it's not
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: only spending quality time with them, but like I came
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: from a real place of judgment, you know, a real
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: place of judging people who believed in all of this.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And even though I was guilty of believing in it
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: when it was convenient for me, I wasn't a believer believer,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you know, and I would like to think that I'm
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: more of a believer than I ever have with less
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: shame about it, because I don't give a funk what
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: anybody thinks I care about. I think, well, I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that's very brave to say that too. You know, A
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: big part of it for me, like as a psychic medium,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I was hiding for years, like doing it in secret,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you know, helping people, like volunteering to help at grief
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: retreats and things of that nature, because there is a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: little bit of a big part of stigma. You know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it's like a bull's eye on your head. But when
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: you own it as a truth, you realize it's so
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: healing and beautiful that you know, I'm at the point where, Okay,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: some people might arrive at this and they might not
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: be open to it, but I just hope that they'll
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: question it and go on their journey. Um, which is
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: really what you did. And when you test it, when
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you try it, it works, and it works in the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: most amazing ways, Like in real time, you will be
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: directing your thoughts to someone you love on the other side,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: asking for something specific and you will get it at
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the same time and like a way that you absolutely
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: know is real and the same way that you're saying
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you walked into the grocery store and there were these
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: two oranges separate and you just knew it doesn't matter
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: what anybody else says. When you just know that to
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: be your truth, it changes your reality. Yeah, because now
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it's become so second hat to me that like I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: literally can feel my brother's hand on my shoulder at times,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I can hear him going laughing at something I say,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: or I sometimes I look up and I just see
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: my mom and my brother they're doing something silly for
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: my childhood, Like it's totally at my disposal almost all
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the time, and you know, I don't want to take
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it for granted, and I don't tap into it, you know, daily,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: but I know it's I know I have a space
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to go in case I need to go there, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that kind of you know, that stillness, sitting with yourself
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and meditation teaches you that you are part of a collective,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that it's not just you. It's never been just true.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: You're all here together, and the important thing is to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: look around and do things for other people, and to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: think about what when you're doing something, who are you
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: doing it for? Is it just for you? Or is
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: it for the collective? Is it for humanity? You know?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And obviously not everybody's in a position to think to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: think that they can or in a position to make
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a you know, a huge impact. But I would argue
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: every little impact is a huge impact. So many people
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: say I don't have the platform. I don't have. You do.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You're a human being. We all have the equal you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: we all have the ability to do wonderful things. All
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I do. If you think of it like, you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you are a candle. You have this light, you can
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: light thousands of candles. You don't know how far your
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: light's going to go. You know, you don't know how
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: large your platform is going to become. And every act,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: every thought, every moment that we are making a choice
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: here between fear and love matters, and everything boils down
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to that, a choice of either fear or love. Fearing
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: what we don't know, feeling fearing that we're going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: give up our power like that's never the highest path.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: But trusting, loving, seeing our connections to other people is everything.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I think so many times people get stuck here feeling
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: isolated and alone, and the truth is none of us
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: are alone. And what can you give us a Can
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you give us a story without mentioning any names, or
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: it can be one from the book or one that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you know that really stands out to you of recent
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that you are reading, that you had where you were
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: able to give somebody some solace about people who have
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: crossed over. Um. Yeah, so you know, I was just
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: at UM conference this past weekend at Omega, and I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: was working with scientists and investigative journalists, which I love
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to do, right because I'm always coming at this like, Okay,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: this is real, Let's hear what the scientists have to say.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Let's do this, and and part of it was that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I was going to be doing what's called the gallery reading,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: which I typically don't do. But that's when I just
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: opened to the group and do readings, you know, for
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: whoever I'm pulled to, and I always know the other
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: side has a plan, you know, like the I was
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a teacher for almost twenty years, so the teacher and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: me is so uncomfortable with that because I'm used to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: going into you know, a room with a lesson plan,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: three ways to teach it, and a backup plan, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: so when I do gallery readings, I've got nothing, like
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I have nothing until I opened. Then I trust the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: other side it's going to come through. But they always do.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And there was always lessons, you know, for everybody within
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: that and some really beautiful things happened, you know, just
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: in that session alone, and I think there were lessons
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: for the whole group, even though only a few people
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: got read. You know. One of the things that happened
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was I was brought to a woman and her daughter
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and her son had crossed through drug overdose. There was
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: fentanyl in the drug he had taken, and so he
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: brought that up and he he told me that he
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: was part of a team of light on the other side,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and he showed me he was with other other people
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: his age on the other side, and they were working
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: through all of us here to try and bring about
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: healing and and change um. And he brought through a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: whole lot of other beautiful like information about how they
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: were doing things in his name and they had just
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: organized a walk and how he was part of that
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and all that, And then I read a few other people,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and then the final person I read was another woman
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: whose son came through and he had crossed the same way,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and he was actually with that point, like they were
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: both together bringing this up in this room to help
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: us here understand how interconnected we are, how we need
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to take a look at this, how we need to
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: stop these overdoses with fentanel and all of this. So
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it's really that was quite moving just to see how
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the other side had orchestrated that. And what would you
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: say to people who have lost people to violence or
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: lost people to an epidemic like that, because that's something
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that we could have avoided, you know, a gun violence,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a kid in a school at Sandy Hook, a little
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: kid getting shot. How are people supposed to reconcile that
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: kind of pain. Yeah, you know, I think like being
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: in the here and now, Um, what we're really talking
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: about is suffering and loss. Right, how do we make
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: sense of that? How can that mean anything? When a
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: child gets shot in a school? I can only tell
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you what I've learned when I've connected with children on
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the other side who were killed by gun violence and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: so forth. And what they tell me is number One,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: they don't want us to live in anger and bitterness.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: They don't want um revenge, but they do want to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: help us bring about change, and so they work with
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: us as a team of light to help heal and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: shift and change the world. And I think we do
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: need to address that as a society. You know, we're
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: growing and shifting and changing together. And I think it
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: comes back to that fundamental question of fear versus love.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Like we're not looking at the equation, right, We're fearful
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: that our guns are going to be taken away, We're
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: fearful of losing that quote unquote form of power, and
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: yet we're failing to see that true power is our
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: ability to heal each other, connect with each other, love
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: each other, be kind, be thoughtful. And so what we're
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: really having I think in a really big way, it's humanity.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: We're having this really massive conversation about what true power is.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, children who have crossed through violence,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: people who have crossed through murder, are always invested in
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: helping their loved ones here heal and also find their
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: highest path. And when we do things in their name
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to bring about change, that's the most powerful thing that
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: there is. You know. I've come to understand too that
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: there there seems to be some very evolved souls who
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: have come here on a mission knowing that there was
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: a possibility, should certain individuals make a certain choice in
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: their life, that they could be forced through what's called
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: an earlier doorway through murder, through violence, through being shot
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and so forth. But their soul was so evolved that
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: they said, Okay, I'll come here on this mission of love,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and if that happens, I'm still going to try and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: help heal and and bring love through. So you know
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that phrase that love always wins, it really is true. Well,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that people are set like
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: do you do you believe people like their their lives
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: are set before them, or that they create their their future?
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Like is that done. Is this person coming into the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: world knowing they're going to lose their life to gun violence.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: That's such a great question. So it's really like our
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: our exit points predestined. So this is what I've learned,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and it was both like unsettling and healing to hear
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this at the same time. Um, from what the other
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: side has told me, we all have different what I'm
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: going to call doorways to death, different times we can exit.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: You know. The goal is to get to the last
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: one always, you know, hopefully, you know, but a lot
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of times us getting to our last doorways depending on
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: other people's free will choices while they're here. For example,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: let's say you come here and there's a certain door
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that exists that if this other person who you've never
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: met in your life, but if that other person goes
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to a bar and drinks and then drives, you are
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: going to be forced through a different, an earlier doorway.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Then if that individual makes a different choice, doesn't do that,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get to stay, and the universe kind of rearranges.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And I think we have some choice on that, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: sometimes we don't, because sometimes someone's final doorway is very
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: early in life, you know, I've had situations and when
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I read, I can see what I call points of
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: light on the other side, which or maybe it's their
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: final door and maybe it's the first, but maybe it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the earliest doorway if a like if a four year
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: old dies. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, is
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: like they have contracts some here to come here and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: play a really powerful role in the world. And for
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: some people believe it or not, Like some souls aren't
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: even meant to be actually born. They're just meant to
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: be a pregnancy, whether it's to feel a parents on
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: conditional love or to be a point of growth in
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that person's life. It's kind of like there's no harm,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: no thallo, it's all about love. So it really depends.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Some people come here on a mission were are their
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: time here is not meant to be long. Some come
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: on a mission where there's a number of different doorways
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: that they could go through, and some come and they're
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: just they're here for the long call. I think, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: we're all different souls on different levels having this collective experience,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and our actions impact each other, our thoughts impact each other.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: We're all enttangled in ways we can't fathom And what's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: an experience where you've seen where you've done a reading
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and saw a tremendous amount of healing take place for
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the people here. Yeah, you know, I think that it's situations.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: A lot of times it has to do with children
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: who have crossed, whose parents are left, you know here
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: just you know, completely bereaved and frozen, and I watch
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: how those children on the other side have worked really
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: hard to send their parents signs and messages to help
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: them shift and grow. One of the earliest chapters in
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the book talks about a little boy named Caleb who
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: crossed during having oral oral surgery done in his heart
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: up and ended up crossing, and his parents were just
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: left completely in grief, but he very shortly after started
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: sending them signs. He sent them the number eleven eleven,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and then he would show them certain like cloud contrails,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and he was coming through in all these different ways.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: And when I did the reading for his parents, you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: he talked to me about being a team of light
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and that they were going to work together to pass
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: legislation to help save other children, and that was already happening,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and that has come to pass um, you know, it's
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: in this really beautiful way to make sure that when
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: children are having are being put under anesthesia, there has
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to be someone else there. So really, it was a
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: really amazing thing to watch his parents work with him,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: even though he's on the other side, there here to
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: bring about healing in this world and positive change in
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: this world, to help protect and save others from tragedy.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Because again, it's just showing how invested we all are
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in each other's journeys, and how that little boy Caleb
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: on the other side, and how such a tremendous impact
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: on this physical world that we're in right now, bringing light,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: bringing healing, bringing love. We have so many um times
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I've done readings where I've seen that happening. It's really cool,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: like this team of light between loved ones on the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: other side and people here, and whenever we do anything
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: in a loved one's name, like they're with us, they're
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: part of that. It's it's quite beautiful. Yeah, that the
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: idea that you can bring them with you, is that
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you can live your life with their energy still with you,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: is powerful and comforting. I remember you talk a lot
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: about losing your psychic abilities at the age of seven,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that a lot of a lot of people do. Yes,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: So what's that Yes, So it's really interesting. You know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I think that for number one, we're all we're all
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: born here, connected to each other and connected to the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: place we came from, connected to the other side. We're hardwired, right,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you cannot break those connections if if you tried. And
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: when we're children, we're using all different parts of our brain,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: right even before we have language, we're reading energy, we
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: absolutely are, and so we're navigating our world using our
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: intuitive abilities, using our psychic abilities, understanding those connections. But
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: what I have found happens, and this is true with
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: children with past life recall to not only children with
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you know, psychic and intuitive abilities, is those abilities start
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: to shut down and become silence between age five and
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: age seven. And so I thought about the why of that.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I'm always questioning the why and the science behind it,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and what I came to understand, and you know, I'm
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: always listening to the other side to give me tips
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to and what I came to understand is that that's
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: when formal schooling starts. Between kindergarten and second grade, we
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: retrain our brains. You know, I work with scientists who
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: have done e g. S of my brain when I'm
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in a normal speaking mode like I am right now,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and then when I go into reading mode, and for
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the normal speaking mode, my brain looks like most other people's.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: All the brainwave activity is in the frontal lobe, you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the brainwave activities off the charts there, and the frontal
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: lobe is in charge of critical thinking, analytical thinking, language skills,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: math skills like day to day stuff. We need to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: now vacate our world. The only time anybody's normal brain
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: goes offline like that is at night, and that's why
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: people will have dream visitation by loved ones at night,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: precognitive dreams like dreams that are symbolic in nature, that
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: guide them, et cetera. But for the most part, kids
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: stay stuck in that frontal lobe. Once they start school,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: they get trained there, and they never leave it unless
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: they go to sleep. And so I think that's why
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: kids are born intuitive. They're born connected. You'll hear kids
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: talking about recognizing um relatives from pictures who they never met,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: who had crossed before they arrived here. Yeah, my nephew,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Jakie was two years old. He never met my brother chet.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: He was our first grandson in the family, my sister
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Simone's son, who's now twenty two. And he came into
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: our house and Drew, my brother, used to drive this
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: old Orange Scout, and when he died, my dad parked
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: it in the back of the property in the woods,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, never wanted to look at it again
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: because it was too painful of memory for my father.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And Jakie had never seen that truck. And he came
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: into the backyard and we were in New Jersey, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I remember him running in from outside and my mom
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: was sitting on the sofa in her living room and
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: he said, and she and I was playing with him,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and he was, you know, just too so he was
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: just speaking, not not well, but he was speaking a little.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And we said, what did you do outside? Or my
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: mom said where were you? And he said, I was
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: with Chat, which would be fine because we always talked
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: about Chat to my to my nephew, or my mom
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: did anyway, and she said, oh, yeah, where where was he?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: And she said he came to pick me up in
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the orange truck and we went for a ride. And
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I was sitting there and my mom and I just
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: burst into tears, and you know he had never seen
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that car or a picture of that car. You know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: he was too young. So it was that was an
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: example of you know, I believe in children being so
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: unbe smirched, you know, before they get into school, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: we programmed their brains to say, this is what you
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: have to think. This is pragmatism, this is reality, this
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: is our you know, this is here and now there
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: is much more fantasy that comes into our mind before
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: we get deprogrammed from it. We're connecting in different ways,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you know, We're using different parts of our brain too.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: So when they mind met me and I go out
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: of my frontal lobe, different parts of my brain light up.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And those are the parts that kids before they start
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: formal schooling, all of us before we started formal schooling,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: we're using. Here's the thing you can retrain your brain.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And so what scientists have said to me is there
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: seems to be a switch that I know where it
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: is and how to turn it on and off and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: open to that and shut down the frontal part of
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: my brain because when I go into psychic mediumship mode,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it looks like I'm not conscious, like the brainwave activities
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: silences in my frontal lobe. So I think we can
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: just all learn to reopen. And I've seen this happen.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I do workshops where I help people just number one,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: understand that we're all energy, feel our own energy, and
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: then start opening to it and start opening to their
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: psychic and intuitive abilities. I call them the four clayers
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that we come come here with. Oh yeah, let's talk
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: about the four classes. Yeah, okay, So we all have
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: these tools, and so this is just words to describe
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: what they are. We have clairvoyance, which means clear seeing,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: which is the one that I was talking about when
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: we dream at night and we are seeing vividly, but
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: our physical eyes are closed. None of us talk about
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: how bizarre that is. We have full vision, but we're
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: not using our physical eyes. So that's that third eye
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: that other cultures talk about. That's our psychic vision when
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: we leave our physical bodies too. That's the site we have.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't just go in one direction at one time.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: We can kind of zoom in, we can zoom out,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: we can be in more than one place at one time.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: We can see in you know, different spectrums. A lot
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of people who have had near death experiences. Otherwise you
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: know called nd s. We'll talk about seeing in like
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: ultra violet kind of spectrum, seeing colors they've never seen before.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: So that's one of our abilities. We have clear audience,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: which means clear hearing, and that's when you hear a
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: thought but it's not yours and something scary telling you
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: to do anything bad. But a lot of times our
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: loved ones will connect with us that way. We'll hear
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: their voice, will hear them saying something, or my mom's
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: voice all the time, slow down, slow down, and with
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: our German accent. I love that. Yes, I hear it,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and I can't say it. I can't speak in the
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: ways my mom spoke because it was very nuanced and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: unique and she was soft spoken. But I can hear
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: her voice, and it's learning to trust that rather than
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: reject it. Right, because the monkey made that mind that
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: frontal I was like, oh, reject that experience. That's not
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: tangible and that doesn't fit my paradigm. So once we
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: start embracing those moments of connection, we're basically like a
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: flower opening up, like they'll happen more and more. So
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I love that you've already had that experience and that
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you're honoring it. And then there's clear cognizance, which we
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: all have, and that is clear knowing. That's when you
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: get the sudden download of information that you just know
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: something in every ounce of your being. Yeah, well sort of, yes,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: it can, it can kind of land there, but it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: like in every cell of your being you know something,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: but there's no logical way you could explain how you
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: know it. And when we don't trust that, when we
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: go against that clare cognizant knowing, we're always on a
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: bad path, right, So that's always guiding us. The one
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you're talking about with your gut, that's called clear sentience,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: and that means clear feeling. All of us read energy
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: like you are way advanced because you're already acknowledging that
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: we're energy and that's the only truth of our existence. Right.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: So when we meet people, we don't just meet them
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: in the three D. We meet them energetically. And the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: place that we're reading that from is our gut. It's
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: right around our belly button, right around that area, and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: so you can start the more you tune into it,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you're recognizing and you'll feel like, oh, that's where I'm
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: feeling that energy, and that's why people talk about having
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: gult level feelings on things. You know, that's what they're identifying,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: whether or not they realize it. And being open clare
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: sentiently and I think is so important because when you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: talk about how interconnected we all are and how you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: kindness and forgiveness that needs to be our currency. When
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you really open to that, you start feeling that there
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it's just the most beautiful layered experience. You know, you
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: want to do a quick, really quick experience if you're
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: ever driving in traffic and somebody wants to go in
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: front of you, instead of being like no, no, no no,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I gotta get there first, wave them in and then
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: just take a moment to feel what that felt like.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: You can feel the energy exchange. No languages exchanged, you know,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: but you can feel that when you do something kind
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: for someone, or you're acting from a place of like kindness,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: love and forget, you will feel that. Conversely, when you
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: act like a fucking cunt, and we all experience that,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: you know, we do yell at somebody in traffic, I
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: feel like an idiot A sometimes you can't stop yourself right,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: but it's that moment of reflection. That's important. Like, sometimes
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: we're very reactive, and I think we're programmed here in
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: this world in a very materialistic way, and we have
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: to get ahead of people, and you don't let people in,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and you have to be guarded, and sometimes we totally
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: act like total jerks, right, and catching yourself in that
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: moment and recognizing what that felt like, that's a huge
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: growth experience. And because that's the difference between my psychiatrist, Dan,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: who I speak about all in my book, told me,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you know, explain to me the difference between reaction and
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a response, you know, me being reactive as somebody says
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: fuck you to me, I say fuck you back as
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a reaction. It's actually really valid energy. You're just like
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: throwing right back because it's defensive. Instead of me going
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you saying fuck you and I going whoa, whoa, whoa?
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: What did I What did I do? Or what happened?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Are you all right? Or what did I do something
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to upset you? That's a that's a response. It's the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: space of awareness that that he taught to me that
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I've found to be such a useful to everything. Actually
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to actually stop listen to what you're hearing and don't
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: respond in kind, respond from a kind space, don't respond
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: in the way the person you know talk to you.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: You don't have to match everybody's energy. You can be
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: still and use your own energy to guide the situation.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: And just by being calm in that situation, it diffuses it. Yeah,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you're really being an energy alchemist there right, because you're
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: taking this negative energy that's been thrown at you, you're
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: holding it for a moment, you're diffusing it, and then
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you're responding with kindness. You've changed the entire energy cycle.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: And the thing is a lot of us volley negative
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: energy to each other. Somebody says after you to one person,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you say it next to the next, then somebody else
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: gives somebody else to figure it's like this ongoing continuum
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of negative energy being thrown. So to be able to
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: find that space to recognize, wait a minute, this isn't
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: about me. But I did just receive this energy. What
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: am I going to do with it? We can transform it,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: we can release it, you know. I teach my kids
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: like to release it, like if somebody throws that at you,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: release it up and out of your head and let
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: it like implode into space and harm nobody, um, just
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: so that they can get an understanding what that feels like.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: So you can try that too. But to be kind
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: back is everything. Yeah, and not to be condescending. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: mean that is that's huge. That's like really advanced soul
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: growth work there. Well, I mean I'm not doing it
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: all the time, but I I mean my work here
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: is to be nonreactive to everything, to not match anyone's energy,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and which is very hard to do because I get
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of heated conversations and you know, that's my default.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: That's the way I grew up and that's how I
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: made a living and how I became successful was by
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: telling everybody to go funk themselves. So to undo that
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: has been really challenging, but it's been great work because
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I just feel that, you know, anybody who doesn't believe
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: in energy then doesn't believe in a bad food, Like
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: that's energy. That's like if I come in smiling and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I'm pissed, you're gonna know that I'm pissed and faking it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: You know, you're not putting on an act for anybody,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: no matter what kind of actress do you think you are? Uh,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Because energy is everything and if you have good vibrations,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you have them, and if you don't, then you don't.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean you can't get them. So it
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: just means you're in a bad spot or you've lost
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: your way, because people are inherently good people, you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: people just get lost, I think. So talk to me
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: about how you first knew that you had this gift. Yeah, so,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you know, as a kid, I would see people in colors,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I would feel what they were feeling. But I just
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: thought that's how the world operated. I was like, yeah,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: that's what everybody experiences. And then you know, when I
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: was eleven, I had this moment, this Claire cognizant, absolute
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: moment of knowing that my grandfather, who I called pop Pop,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: who I was so close with, he was such a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: focal point of my childhood, in my heart and my life.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I knew he was going to die, and I went
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and I spent the day with and that was the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: last time I ever saw him alive. I was diagnosed
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: with leukemia and passed very quickly, and I never got
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: to see him again. Um, And I remember feeling really like,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you know, cursed, like there was something very very wrong
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: with me, like feeling very different. And you know, I've
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: always been blessed with having the most amazing mom and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: being able to go to her with anything, So it
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: didn't take me long to kind of go to her
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and confess and say, like, Mom, I think that I'm
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: dark and haunted and cursed. I think something's really wrong
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: with me. Because I knew pop Up was going to die,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: and that's why I went and spent that day with him.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: You know, when she sat me down and she said, Laura,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: you know what, no part of you is dark or
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: broken or cursed. You just have another ability to understand things,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, then she confessed that it had run
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: in on her side of the family for generations, and
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: then I felt less alone. But I felt like maybe
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I was part of some club I didn't know that
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I wanted membership in. But I think what the great
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: gifts she gave me was to have permission to explore it.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Because in her family, it was like you would know
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: people were going to die, you'd have a dream that
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: somebody was dying as they were dying, and then you
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: just share up but never talk about it again and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: never examine it. And she really helped me to understand
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that it was an ability I had to perceive energy
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and it was really all about love. And it would
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: still take me decades to come to terms with that
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: and fully own it, right because I didn't want people
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to know I could do this, and it was you know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I had to figure out where it was going to
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: land in my life and how I would use it.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: But um, it's it's definitely in retrospect what I realized
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: about that knowing that moment and knowing he was going
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: to cross that was a great gift because because of that,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I had one more day in the physical to spend
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: with him, and we had the best day. Like we left,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: We were just together. It was fantastic. And and so
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I think, like these abilities, we all have to send
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: energy to feel connections to people too. And I feel
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: like even grief, like that's our soul feeling that other
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: person soul somewhere else now so not physically both us,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: but we can still feel them with us, and I
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: think honoring the on his everything. So what about Yeah?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: But back okay, so back to my father, who soul
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I don't feel what? What what do you have? What
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: do you think is going on with him right now? Well,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: if you want me to glimpse. I can tell you
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: that this there's like a big joke between like him
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and your mom and brother, and and he's like busy
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: and what I would cars selling car It's like a
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: school like where we're trying like, let's say there's a
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: class clown that you're trying to get to understand. Like, no,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: but when you did this, you need to see how
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you affect the other people. It's like I'm trying to
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: wrestle your dad's energy down so that he'll like really
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: seriously do his full life review. I feel like he's
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: taken a really long time with his life review, not
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: in a bad way, And it's just there's a lot
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: of people he influenced and affected that he's trying to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: take in and understand. It's not that he's not present,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: it's just like a little busy doing that. He's a
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: little focused on that. But do you think that there
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: are different since our souls can be you know, like
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: you know, my dad did a lot of things, a
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: lot of amazing things, but he did a lot of
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: things that I'm sure you know he wasn't that proud
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: of or that he regrets. Do you so, do you
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: think that there needs to be some clean up for
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: a person like that when they die. That's a good
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: term for it. So what I've learned and what they've
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: shared with me, is that we all have a life
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: review and it happens like you know, time doesn't really
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: exist there, so it's hard to explain, but it does,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: like in a language we can understand. It takes some
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: people more time so to speak to process than others.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: And we all need Yeah, we all, I think we are.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I think we all need to take responsibility to the
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: fact of understanding how we influence and affected others, and
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: we always want to own that and fully appreciate it.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: And I think, like that's what your dad's working on
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: a quote almost like a little bit of a school
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: there where he's taking his time with it. You know,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: he's enjoying, he's taking a lot of break socializing. Yeah,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: but I don't get him this unhappy or stunted at all.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, his soul had an agreement to
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: come here and play a certain role and be quote
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: unquote limited in a certain way as how I'm going
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: to say it, so that the people around him could
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: have to struggle a little bit to grow and understand
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: him and play their roles. And by people, I mean
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: your family, and I get who you're talking about, but
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: what about his growth as a human being. He's like
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: a different like so the other side has different like
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: it's almost like an apartment building of energy. So like,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I know, viewers can't, you know, listeners can't see this,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: but like he's a little bit to my lower right,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and your mom and brother are like a little bit
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: to my upper right, and so it's just like he's busy,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: like in that classroom. Like so if this were all
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: high school, right, and your mom and brother already are
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: like graduated and now like helping teach classes. Your dad's
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: maybe in like tenth grade. You know, he's working his
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: way through it, ok, but he's understanding. And I ask
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you about some other people in my life? Is that
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: okay to do? Now? Okay, we're gonna take a quick
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. What about my cousin
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Eddie and my uncle Terry? First of all, I feel
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: like like this is my sense of Eddie, Like there's
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: two sides to his personality. Like there's this fun, like
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: loving side, but also this really gentle, understand ending side.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And I feel like his journey here, especially like if
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you look at the I'm going to say, the ending
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: of it is how he's giving to me, Like the
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: ending wouldn't make sense. Like it's unfinished, is how I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: want to say it. But he needs to let you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: like it completely is finished. This was his mission. He
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: needs you to know what was his final doorway. That's
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: what I want to say. Did Terry cross before he did? Huh?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I get Terry like in the background and Eddie Moore
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: in the forefront, And my other way to interpret that
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: would be like Eddie is working with you, like he's
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: signed up, he wants to help you, He's like with
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: you daily, he's trying to come through, and Terry's more like, Okay,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch with my dad. Yeah, they're like over
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: like that's where I'm seeing him towards, like that background
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: because it's my mom's my mom and her two sisters
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and they all married, three guys like my father, like
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: my uncle. So I'm sure those three and they all died,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: all three guys, all my father and my two uncles
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: from that side all died within a year of each other.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Who was the big smoker okay, because I'm just getting
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: like cigarette smoke in my face and all this. And
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: it's funny because a lot of times people on the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: other side will make me give anti smoking lectures about
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: like how bad cigarettes are, and he's like, he's like,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I don'kay. Yeah, he's laughing about like this is the
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: joke with him. He's like he needs to let you know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: like he's still smoking over there, like and he's happy
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: as you can imagine doing that. So it's like he's
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: he's kind of funny. He's not using it as much
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: as a teaching opportunity as as more like a celebration
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of cigarettes for himself. That's what I'm seeing constantly for him. Well,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I hope you're happy, Terry. But so for my cousins.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I have cousins who lost a brother that's Eddie. Is
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: there something that I can tell them about Eddie? I
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: know you're saying, here are there's three people here that
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: he's got like three cousins for you that he's connected to,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: because he's talking about trying to come through to like
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: three people of his generation here there are more there's like,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: are there three girls? Yeah? Okay, because like this is
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm seeing, um there's something like he's making a
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: joke about the color pink and I'm seeing a flamingo.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: So I know this sounds crazy, but I would say
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: they should be on the lookout for, which is I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: don't feel like something he would normally do, like but
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: like a pink flamingo as a sign for him with
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: some word on it. A lot of times this will
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: come through, it won't have happened yet, So this would
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: we just say that, I'm like, be on the lookout
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: for that. There's a joke in it, like he's got
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a like a joking personality with this.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what word is going to be
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: like accompanying this pink flamingo. I don't know if it's
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: going to be like a plastic pink flamingo or like
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: when they see like in a picture, I don't know
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: what it or an actual one crossing their path. But
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to talk about that, and I'm supposed to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: talk about that one of them really not being open
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: to this. Yeah, is there like a scene name like
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: like a Colly and Catherine likes? Is she not as
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: open to this? I think the girls are all open
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: to it as as much, I mean, as open as
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: they've ever been because of this pain, or maybe skeptical
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: because he's really going to prove to her like right away.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if she already had a dream
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: visitation from him, but I feel like, oh, I'm I'm
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: gonna show. I'm going to make sure she knows, right, Okay, okay,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: well that's good. And and then his then my aunt,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: his mother Gabby, who you know, has been through really
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: he's really proud of her. She's holding like what I'm
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: going to say is triple grief somehow, so there have
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: been like either three losses or three difficult things for
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: her um and she's going through something difficult right now too.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: He's showing me like watching over trying to help with
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: If we looked at her kind of life journey and path,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: it seems disproportionately unfair, is how I want to say
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: it is how he's giving like she's going through a
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: lot or this is really hard, but she carries her
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: like jin high and he's very proud of how she
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: is navigating her grief and doing this in the world.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: And he hears her when she talks to him. But
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: to let her know she doesn't just have to talk
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: to him like when she's in the shower or driving,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: like she can talk to him at any time. It's
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: almost like she's trying to find these little spaces and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: know he's with her at all the time. He did
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: something with light for her, Like I don't know if
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: there was like this big beam of light, but it's
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: something dramatic he's talking about. To ask her about that. Yeah,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: would it be a rainbow? Yeah, that would make perfect
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: sense to man. I don't want to be like try
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: and say that, but that's how I'm seeing it coming,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: like light come down like that. So are the signs
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: all kind of corny? Are they all like pink flamingos,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: rainbows and oranges? Well, I think he's like having fun
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: with us right now, like because it's like so like
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: feminine in a sense. Do you know he's definitely, But
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like now we should ask him to send
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: like a tank, like a Camo tank, and he'll do
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: that too. But I think that you know, a lot
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: of times, you know people who are more in tune
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and in touch with what I'm going to say is
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: their feminine side or what we're encouraged as women to
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: be like open and healing and receptive, where men are
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: sometimes taught to like shut down those emotions and not
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: feel those things. I think it's it's interesting that a
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: lot of the signs do feel feminine in nature, you know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: but they don't have to be limited to that. I
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: think rainbows are really easy for them because it's all
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: a refraction of light. So like that's a really good
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: one for them to send, a really kind of simple
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: one for them to send their good at it. In
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: other words, I see that makes sense, But she can
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: ask for other things, and do you feel that so
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: when somebody okay, So so if when you say souls
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: travel together, obviously you can't. You know, there are a
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: lot of people in your life that are soul mates,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you feel like, you know, there are friendships, there are relatives,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: there are spouses and children. So we can't always you know,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: if if, if what you're saying happens to be the
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: reality that we cross over. We kind of wait for
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: our energy groups. How you can't wait for everybody because
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: not everybody is part of the same group. You have
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: all your little kind of offshoot groups. You know, there
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: are friends of mine that I would think I consider
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: to be you know, soulmates, and then there's my family
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: and so who gets you know, like, how does that
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: all work? Well? I think there's soul recognition that goes on,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of times were born into
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: families where like sometimes I read for someone and I'll
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: see like they've been born into what I call like
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: a purple family where they came in as a very
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: evolved soul, but they're usually one or more parents maybe
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: aren't as evolved, and so like the person who's born
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: here evolved is a point of love and light for
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the rest of the family members to grow their soul against.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: And yet a lot of their soul mates, so to speak,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: will be non family members. What the beautiful thing that
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: happens when we're open and aware and we feel energy
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: and we honor it is those souls who maybe aren't
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: genetically part of our family groups this lifetime will be
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: brought into our path And the greatest thing is when
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: we recognize that, so we can create inform families of
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: energy in a very healthy, beautiful way. Whereas maybe the
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: family were born into there's always a dynamic and you know,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: complicated relationships. So I think that different lifetimes we play
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: different roles. Have you ever read the book Many Lives,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Many Matters. God, I was just about to bring that up.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Yes I have, right, So I mean that explains it
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: way better than I can. That's Dr Brian White. That's
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: my number one recommendation of of books. It's just phenomenal.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: But it helps you understand how interconnected we are and
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: how we can play a certain role in each other's
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: lives one lifetime and then a very different one in
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: in another. But I do believe, like I was saying
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: to you, like, Okay, well, if we're all waiting for
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: our soul group to get there, won't there always be
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: like the grandchild or the great grandchild who doesn't make it?
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: And yes, but well we all are more interconnected with
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: more soul groups than we can fathom. Okay, Well that's
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: good to know, and it's again comforting, and so there's
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: really no harm that could come from actually thinking about
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: these things and believing in these things. Whether people believe
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: you or not, there's you're not hurting anybody at all.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: It's very healing and comforting. But I think some people think, like, well,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: it sounds too much, you know, too good to be true.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: It sounds like, you know, a fairy tale or a fantasy,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: and the truth is like, yeah, it does sound pretty great,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't discredit it. It It doesn't mean it's not
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: our truth. You know. The truth is that none of us,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: you know, none of our consciousness dies, and we're all
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: in this collective lesson of love. Like that is a
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: beautiful truth because I think it changes how we live
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: here when we know that to be our truth and
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: we honor it. And the way to honor that is
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: to test it right, ask for science, ask for messages,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: trust in the process. Yeah, to ask for science. And
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: just the energy shift, like, for instance, personally speaking, the
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: energy shift that I've had in terms of quieting myself
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and calming down and taking my time and not being
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: reactive and believing in my brother being around me and
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: my mother being around me has drawn so many things
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: into my life, Like it is proof positive that happiness
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: begets much more happiness and more like the act of happiness,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: the act of gratitude, which is a word that still
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: makes my vagina titan. It leads to all these little
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: gifts in your life, and people show up, and books
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: show up and opportunities arise and you're like, oh my god,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: is this really And it's like flowing with the universe
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: instead of resisting the things that you don't like accepting.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: It's so true. I love that you're saying that too.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: About gratitude. You know, it's it's like if you shift
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: your energy, you shift your life and all different doors
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: open up. And so love and gratitude, those are some
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: of the highest feelings we can have here, love, gratitude, forgiveness.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: And there have been studies done on actual pessimists where
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: they have them. Right, just a very brief gratitude list
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: each morning for twenty one consecutive days, because once we
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: do something for twenty one days, it becomes a habit
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: and it changes the customers. But it has to be consecutive. Right.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: But look, you're good. You don't need to worry. You're
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: already in that. I call it being in the flow
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: of light, exactly what you're describing as being in the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: flow of light of the universe. It's where you're finding
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: your highest path. You're opened your mind, in your heart,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: you're recognizing your interconnectedness to both people here and on
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: the other side, and you are really what you're doing
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: is surrendering your own kind of life to be a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: vehicle of light and healing for other people, and then
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: the other side works through you. You You know, I do
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: believe in God. I believe in God as this force
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: of love that is in all of us and interconnects
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: all of us and is healing. And I think, like,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: that's what I also mean when I talk about being
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: in the flow of light. It's like being in that
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  Speaker 1: interconnected state, being willing to be a vehicle of light
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  Speaker 1: and healing, doing all of that, and when you're in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: that flow, you can feel it. So yeah, gratitude is
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  Speaker 1: huge and the flow state, like I I felt that
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  Speaker 1: when I wrote my last book, it was like vomiting
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: out of me and it was in the sense of
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: such a release. It was relief, but it was also like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is the first thing I'm putting into the world
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  Speaker 1: that is as authentic as possible. And then the and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: it just flowed out, and then it flowed into the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: world and it did everything and has continuing to do
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  Speaker 1: any more than I could ever dream of. And I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: didn't put any thought into it. It just came to me.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Would you say it like came through you. It almost
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: would say that. I mean, I wouldn't say that because
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I'm mad, but I would say as close to you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: again as it flowed through me, it definitely felt like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: a vomit. And it felt like once I got that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: out and once I did the work, I did feel
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: like a different person. I just felt like, now I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: feel like nothing matters. It doesn't matter if I die tomorrow,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: if I lived till I'm a hundred. I mean, I'd
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: rather not live till I'm a hundred, but you know,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like that might happen, just because of my luck.
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  Speaker 1: Um and uh and uh. But it is such a
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  Speaker 1: nicer place to live, to be to you know, to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: to sit and listen to the energy and too and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: to feel yourself to be present in every moment. That
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: has been a huge gift. And the things line up
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: for you in that way. And I've heard so many
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: testimonies about that, and I've read all you know, when
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I read Many Lives to Many Masters, it was I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: found that book in a seat pocket on a plane
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: after I had just gotten into a community fight with
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: somebody the night before in New York City about reincarnation
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: and how stupid I thought that they were in the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: next day and I was like, oh God, many lies.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: And I read it from start to finish on my
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: plane back to l A. And I was like, telling
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: cut to I'd be the worst juror because I just
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: switched signs all day long. I was like, Oh my god,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: everybody needs to read this fucking book. But it's a
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: great book to read, and you're a great book The
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Signs and the Secret Language of the Universe. How can
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: people get this? Can they get this on at local bookstores?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Is it out out to order from you? It's on Amazon,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It's on at local bookstores. Okay, I feel like that
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: book will find them. Yeah, this book will find you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: But it's such a nice read. And it's so nice
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: to hear personal stories about people who have experienced what
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, because it it helps you make sense
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: of it all. Let's talk about your doubt. Do you
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: ever doubt your ability? Do you ever doubt what you
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: believe to be true? Um? You know, embracing my abilities
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: definitely was a struggle, and there have been times I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: just wanted to reject it all. And for me, like
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: the way it started, I would know a lot of
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: negative things that were going to happen in the world,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you know, and I thought like, why do I need
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: to know this? How is this helpful? But I really
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: needed to push through that negative to get to the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: healing and the beauty and the interconnectedness and the love.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: So that was part of my journey. Do I doubt
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: it now? No, I can't. I mean, it's one thing
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: for somebody to maybe watch a psychic medium and think, well,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: maybe they're doing what's called a hot rating or cold rerating.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: A hot rating would be where like I have advanced
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: information and I'm just pretending I don't. A cold reading
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: is that I'm just so in tune with somebody's body
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: language or their voice that I can kind of sense
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: when I'm getting things right or wrong right, So, you know,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: I've worked with scientists where there's just no I know,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing hot rating, and I don't think I'm
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: doing cold rating, right. Some part of my journey has
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: been to go to a psychiatrist to admit, like, I
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: hear voices, this is what they're telling me, and am
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I crazy? And I am just blessed to have this
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: amazing psychiatrist. He was like, well, what are the voices?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Telling you, and I'm like, what's the person's grandmother telling
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: me that she's so happy this new baby just arrived
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: in the family and you know, happy birth, And he's like, well,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: that's beautiful. In the world is more magnificent and complex
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: than we know, so carry on, you know. I went
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: to then scientists to make sure that I would participate
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: in like what when tuple blinded study, which meant there
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: was no way that the researcher could cue me as
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: as to the information I was bringing through was right
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: around because they had no clue. So that eliminated cold reading.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: And I think it's really important to do that because
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I think the fact that this is real has really
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: powerful implications for humanity, not just for me in my life,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: you know. So it has gotten rid of any doubt
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: that I had in terms of is this real? Is
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: this not real? Where I am I getting this information from?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: You know, when I read psychically, I get this kind
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: of widescreen TV that goes on my mind. All my
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: psychic information comes on the left and mediumship comes on
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the right, and it's a very different feeling for me.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: So when I read psychically, I'm reaching and I'm looking
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: for information and mediumship is just I sit back and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: these energies, these points of like come to me and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: just give me information and their personalities are there, and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's this wonderful experience because I get to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: meet all new people. You know. I've had situations where
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I'll be talking to someone and I'll be like, oh, yeah,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I know that person, and I realized, well, I didn't
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: get to know that person until after they crossed, but
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I know that person we're from now, you know. Is
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: that sort of odd experience for me, But it has
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: really expelled all doubt in my mind about existence of
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: consciousness after bodily death. It's it's changed how my life
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: journey has gone. It's changed like little things that happen
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: day to day in my own life that might be
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: an annoyance, I can often see the bigger picture what's
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: really going on. It changed my own grief journey when
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: my father crossed. You know, he's like a way better
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: communicator now than he was when he was here. And
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I watched how it changed my whole family. Like we were,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: you know, texting every day, like this is what Dad
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: just sent me. He sent you that at the same time,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: like it was. It was really amazing, So I don't
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: have any doubt in it anymore. I don't have any
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: doubt in my ability to connect with that. But here's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: the thing. What I know to be true is that
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: we all have these abilities, and what I know is
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: that anyone who wants to explore them and wants to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: open will have experiences. Nobody ever, ever needs to go
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: to a psychic medium to get connected or get their answers.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: We can do this for ourselves, and that's I think
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: what I would want everybody to know is to trust themselves,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: try to challenge the doubt they have within themselves. Don't
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: believe me, go test it for yourself and explore it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Because being open minded, I mean being closed minded prevents
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: you from seeing these things so much. So there's no
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: harm in being open to it because there's all sorts
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: of magic happening it. Really, that is the word I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: would use. It becomes so magical. But I have a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: bigger beef with you because you also told me during
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: my reading that Bob Muller was going to be the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: end of Donald Trump something along the lines those lines.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I asked you specifically about my boyfriend Bob Muller, and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: you told me it was going to be great when
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: his investigation was done, So explain that. You know, I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: think that there is a lot. So when I read,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I read energy and if I said that, I'm going
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: to stand by that. A lot of times do I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: get what's called psychic amnesia. So I'll bring things through
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: and then I won't remember much of what I said,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: but I do convenient. Yeah, that is convenient, right. It
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: sounds like a cop out, But what I am going
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: to say is that there is a lot When we
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: talk about free will, choice, we talk about others, people's energies,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: affecting discourse, dynamic, the way things goes. I think that
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: there has been more buried than we can possibly fathom,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: and I don't fully understand all the reasons, but I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: feel like sometimes the truth would be a little bit
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: too much for people to own and deal with, Like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: what if, just what if the actual outcome of the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: election really wasn't what it seemed to be? What do
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: we do if we bring that truth out? How can
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: we undo? Like that would just put us into chaos?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: So sometimes I think things need to play out a
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: certain way. What I do know is that even though
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: it might seem like we're in terribly dark times right
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: with people really arguing with each other and hating each
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: other and being on such opposite sides, I think we're
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: in a tremendous time of growth, and I think that
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: even though it seems dark, it's incredibly light filled. People
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: being called into action, We're being questioned, people are being
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: asked to examine basically what they're afraid of, Like why
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: are we afraid of losing power? Why are we afraid
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: of losing guns? Why are we afraid of letting people
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: here into the country, Like what is it we're afraid of?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: We need to examine that collectively together. To me, I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: actually do feel like that has like that's it hasn't
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: been remedied, but it's being addressed in a way that
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: still needs maybe a little more time. And I think
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: that there have been things that at the last minute
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: somebody said, no, we can't release this, No I'm not
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: going to step up and do that, for maybe reasons
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: we don't fully understand. You know, I kind of kept
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: journals and things. A lot of times when things go
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: on in the news, I try and see, like, Okay,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: let me tune and let me see what I think
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: is going to happen, And every now and then I'll
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: feel like a sharp turn or a change. It happens
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: in my own life with things too, Like I'll see
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: a certain project and then you know, I'll call someone
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: involved and be like everything just changed, what just happened?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Because the whole energy is going in the opposite direction
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: and the person w to be like, oh I got
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: this phone call and this just one a different way. Um.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: So I do think the energy that each one of
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: us brings can affect situations. Can it affect a massive
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: situation like that? Yes? Do I think that the truth
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: of the Mother Report is right there for everyone to read? Yes?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Do I think that if we don't own things in
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: the here and now, we have to own them once
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: we cross. Yes. Responsibility is responsibility. It's nice when it
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: plays out here on the earthly realm and we can
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: kind of get through it. Yeah. I don't want to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: go over there and just start getting spanked or anything.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Good time not part of not talking about you? Okay, Yeah,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I can copy that, okay, And also, well let's talk
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: about me. Let's end because we have to wrap this up,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: but let's let's end with me. I would like to know.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: So when I had my reading with you, probably a
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: year and a half ago, was just when I was
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: writing my book. I was in a like a very
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: tumultuous not a tumultuous time. I was just about to
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I was writing The Thicker Therapy and I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: was starting to figure everything out. And I had started
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: writing my book, and you told me it was going
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: to be number one New York Times bestseller, which was right.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: But also I've had previous New York that you needed
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: to be psycho. I'm kind of give you that one.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: But you did say you were very optimistic about me
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: meeting somebody that I could be in a relationship with.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: And I was just starting to open my my mind
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: to that. So tell me what you think about that
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: and what you feel just by being around me about that.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I remember writing down what I wanted in a guy
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: because you told me too, and I was kind of
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: half asked, but I did it anyway. I wrote down
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of what we talked about. I haven't looked
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: at it in a while, but I remember some of it.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, I told my makeup artist here
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: in New York to do that. I said, you have
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: to write down everything, whether you want if you're really serious,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: because I couldn't tell if I was really serious about
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: meeting somebody or not. I thought I was, but I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: was like, do I really want that? And she did it,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: and she came to my hotel room yesterday and she's like,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I did what you said. I wrote it in my phone,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: which you told me not to. You told me to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: write it on paper, but I wrote it on my phone.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: She goes, and I'm at the guy. It works. It works.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing I want to tell you about you.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing a relationship for you, and I do
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: feel like you had a little um flexibility in terms
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: of pulling it closer or leaving a little more space.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: And I think you've done a really beautiful thing in
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: your life. I think you've given yourself this beautiful space
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: to explore and clear and like get really like clean
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: and shiny in terms of your energy and who you are.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's a gift you've given yourself. There is
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: absolutely going to be a relationship. There is no way
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: to change energy and not allow that to flood in.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I think it is much closer than you know. I
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: feel like it's right now. It's right on top of you.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: So either you've just met the person and you don't
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: fully know it yet, you're about to meet the person.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: It's right here, and I see it evolving over the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: next year and a half and it being this really
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: really deep, soul connected relationship that had you tried to
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: arrive at that earlier, you would have missed. It's like
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: being on a different you know, yeah, or being on
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: a different floor, like we're on the you know, a
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: certain floor right now, like people three floors below walking
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: you might not see them. You needed to arrive at
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: yourself before you could arrive at the relationship. And I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: think there is no way to stop it now in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: a beautiful way, it is set. Its course is set um.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: The universe has magical ways of drawing people together. I
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: think the really exciting part for you is where is
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: it going to show up? Because I think there's still
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: some surprises for you and it might interest be like
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: interesting in retrospect, you know, years later, looking back, being like,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: look how they universe organized me, meaning this person, Like
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: how it got us in each other's path through that's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: a dating app that a mom that maybe that's how
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: I made him on a dating app. That's not my
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: sense of it, Okay, but you're hilarious. I mean it's seriously.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing too, like weak men fear strong women. Yeah,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be fear your fierce right. So
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: we've also needed to wait for everything to be kind
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: of organized because the person you're going to be with
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: is not like anybody you've ever been with before. There's
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: not going to be work you need to do to
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: fix the person to help them like. They're going to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: come at it from a place of being a very
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: evolved soul too, and so it's going to be an
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: incredible connection and relationship. I think it's going to surprise
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: you in a lot of ways. All Right, well, good,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I'm ready. I think I'm ready. I hope i'm ready.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: I'll report back. You guys will know if I'm ready. Laura,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming into the city and meeting me.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: It's so good to see you. I love your books
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: and I know a lot of other people too. So
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: it's called science. The Secret Language of the Universe is
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: her latest book. You, guys, if you want something to
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: make you feel warm and fuzzy, then then you should
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: read it. Thanks so much for having me. Thank you.
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