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1-28-26 Hour 2 - Jared Bednar/Jamal takes responsibility, Belichick HOF snub/Worried about Bo's ankle? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: All right, hey, coach the Abs, Jared Bednar is going
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  Speaker 2: to join us in just a minute. A lot to
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  Speaker 2: discuss with him, the extension of Sam Malenski four years
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  Speaker 2: at four seven five.
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  Speaker 3: I had it. I had it. I had it. I
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  Speaker 3: had it. I had it. You wouldn't let me do it? Wait,
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  Speaker 3: I had it.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about how he's an example of what you
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  Speaker 2: call a late bloomer in this late bloomer yep, And
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  Speaker 2: I think that he has earned every bit of this
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  Speaker 2: contract with the way that he's played and fit in
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  Speaker 2: with the Apps for the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: You know what.
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  Speaker 4: I want to talk to coach more about that too,
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  Speaker 4: because he was a defenseman. You know what we never
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  Speaker 4: talked to Coach Bednor about We talked about, Hey, the
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  Speaker 4: power play this, Hey is this guy injured? Hey, you guys,
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  Speaker 4: you know, have two great wins in a row? What worked?
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  Speaker 4: We never talk about player development with coach bennor if
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  Speaker 4: we do, it's very rarely.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that you are great this guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they are. And I think you can look at this guy.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, well, look at what Val did when when
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  Speaker 4: he came here and they worked on his game and
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  Speaker 4: you know, got him a Stanley Cup in over six
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  Speaker 4: million dollars per year. But I think that that it's
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  Speaker 4: a big thing for a guy like Malinsky. Now, don't
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  Speaker 4: get me wrong, He's an undrafted guy, played good college
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  Speaker 4: hockey at Cornell, and then that's when he started to
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  Speaker 4: get the attention. We became a better college hockey player.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna credit his college hockey coaches as well.
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  Speaker 4: But again, he's an undrafted guy. He was a pretty
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  Speaker 4: sought after free agent by a lot of teams when
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  Speaker 4: he was still in college. Then he comes to the
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  Speaker 4: Avs and he comes to a position where, damn, when
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  Speaker 4: Devon Taps is out, you put him on the top
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  Speaker 4: pair with Cale mccarr. That's pretty damn good man. And
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  Speaker 4: he played. He's playing with more snarl than he ever has.
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  Speaker 4: He you know, you can see maybe it's like a
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  Speaker 4: poor man's you know, poor man's kill with the way
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  Speaker 4: he moves his feet, find shooting lanes and he's got
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  Speaker 4: a hell of a shot. So let's talk to the
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  Speaker 4: coach about the about the development.
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  Speaker 2: com or joined every Wednesday at eight o'clock by the
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  Speaker 2: head coach. The f's Jared Bednar. First of all, coach,
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  Speaker 2: how you doing?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, doing good, doing good, getting in the depths of
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  Speaker 5: the rink in Ottawa here getting ready for a little
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  Speaker 5: pregame skate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just talking about Sam Lensky and his contract extension.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he's just the lady's latest example of
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  Speaker 2: something you guys do really well, which is developing players.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about the extension for Malensky?
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  Speaker 5: I think I think it's well deserved. I do, I think,
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  Speaker 5: and for a number of reasons, and a little bit
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  Speaker 5: harder to explain that it's a guy we get go
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  Speaker 5: to college. He's a little bit of a late bloomer.
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  Speaker 5: He's got all the tools, right, he's got a great shot,
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  Speaker 5: he's got a great hockey sense, and he he's a
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  Speaker 5: phenomenal skater even in the NHL. Right, and then you're
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  Speaker 5: just kind of like as an undersized guy, lightshot d
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  Speaker 5: which are hard to find, and you're just kind of
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  Speaker 5: seeing where his development can go. And you know the
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  Speaker 5: history of him. He you know, he plays for us,
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  Speaker 5: we call him up. He's a third pair of guy,
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  Speaker 5: plays real well in that role. Then we you know,
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  Speaker 5: injuries and such, you elevate him to a second pair role.
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  Speaker 5: He struggles a little bit, you know, he does that
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  Speaker 5: a couple of times, and then you know, eventually last
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  Speaker 5: year we elevate him into a second pair role at
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  Speaker 5: times and he does real well, and so he kind
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  Speaker 5: of comes back this year. He's on our third pair again.
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  Speaker 5: We elevate him to a second pair role. He's doing
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  Speaker 5: really well on the defending side of it. That part
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  Speaker 5: of his game, the grit that he plays with in
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  Speaker 5: those areas is substantially better than it was early last year.
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  Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, now you find yourself in
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  Speaker 5: a position where you're missing a guy like and for
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  Speaker 5: long stretches of time. Now he's played top pair, top
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  Speaker 5: minutes against other teams top lines, not having any problems defending,
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  Speaker 5: and his offensive game is improving as well. You know,
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  Speaker 5: jumping into the play, getting shot through from the blue
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  Speaker 5: line is production. All of it has gone up and
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  Speaker 5: it's not just for like a small window a time.
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  Speaker 5: So I think you know, his potential is still going.
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  Speaker 5: We don't know what his ceiling is, but right now
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  Speaker 5: he's settled in as a real nice defenseman that can
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  Speaker 5: help us in all areas of our games.
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  Speaker 6: You guys are really good at developing while you're trying
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  Speaker 6: to win. I mean a lot of franchises. When you're
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  Speaker 6: in a championship window as you are, you forget about
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  Speaker 6: the development phase. But that's important to you. What kind
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  Speaker 6: of role do you play in that phase?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think number one, it's having the players understand
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  Speaker 5: fully and completely how we want to play, what our
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  Speaker 5: identity is, and getting them dial on the structure of
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  Speaker 5: our game. So like the structure comes easy, I believe
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  Speaker 5: the structure in what you play with makes most players
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  Speaker 5: a lot better. If they can count on everyone on
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  Speaker 5: the ice thos five guys to do their job, then
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  Speaker 5: you're kind of predictable to yourselves with and without the puck, right,
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  Speaker 5: and now your skill can like if you're confident knowing
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  Speaker 5: that this guy in the corner is my guy, then
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  Speaker 5: you can go close them out, play aggressive and get
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  Speaker 5: the puck turned the other way and if you know
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  Speaker 5: where guys are going to be when you have the puck,
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  Speaker 5: then you know, it's just becomes second nature for you
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  Speaker 5: to be able to make the play. If they're late,
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  Speaker 5: if they're not there, if you're all not on the
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  Speaker 5: same page, then you're going to have turnovers and whatnot. Right,
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  Speaker 5: So it starts there for me and then it's just
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  Speaker 5: picking at, you know, areas of a players game like Malyinsky,
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  Speaker 5: like where does he got better? He needed to get
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  Speaker 5: more physical NetFront, he needed to establish earlier body position.
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  Speaker 5: He needed to make sure he's working on picking up
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  Speaker 5: sticks so guys aren't getting second chances around their net.
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  Speaker 5: He's done that, but it's a closing in the corners
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  Speaker 5: and ending plays that's so much improved. He's using his
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  Speaker 5: skating as in his stick and intelligence to his advantage
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  Speaker 5: instead of like just going at guys and trying to
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  Speaker 5: be physical and having them bump them off because he's
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  Speaker 5: a smaller player. He's got stronger over the years too,
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  Speaker 5: but he's just improved in some of those areas, and
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  Speaker 5: the confidence is showing the way he jumps into the
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  Speaker 5: play and goes an ads offense. That's something that we
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  Speaker 5: encourage from our guys from day one. So it just
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  Speaker 5: depends on the player. But it starts with just getting
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  Speaker 5: everyone and the new guys especially really dial did on
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  Speaker 5: what their job description is on the ice in every situation.
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  Speaker 4: Coach, I guess for me, it's always fun to look
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  Speaker 4: at a guy and I see a part of his
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  Speaker 4: game that I didn't know he had. You talked about
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  Speaker 4: Sam getting a little bit more physical here or there.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a bit of a snarl where he's starting
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  Speaker 4: to upset that guy's a little bit and he's got
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  Speaker 4: the confidence to do it, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: But I just and I go, oh, I didn't know
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  Speaker 4: he had that, And it could be a forward, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it could be whatever aspect of their game. For you,
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  Speaker 4: as a coach, when you start to see these things
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  Speaker 4: come out, you start to discover a little bit more
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  Speaker 4: about your guys.
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  Speaker 3: How cool does that feel?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? No, it's awesome. Like you know, like there's certain
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  Speaker 5: things with guys like let's just say Mans's game, Like
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  Speaker 5: I find Manson to be, like saying an underrated breakout
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  Speaker 5: guy talk mover. He's super patient, he's not scared of
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  Speaker 5: contact when he's moving his feet like he is. He
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  Speaker 5: is tough to get the puck from when he's trying
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  Speaker 5: to break it out, and his puck decisions are genuinely good.
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  Speaker 5: He's able to find the middle of the ice, which
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  Speaker 5: for me equals speed, exiting his own and all that.
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  Speaker 5: But his game starts with his setting tight gaps and
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  Speaker 5: being physical off the rush the's on coverage. So when
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  Speaker 5: he's engaged in the game that way, his breakouts look amazing.
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  Speaker 5: And when he's not engaged, say he has an off
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  Speaker 5: night and he's not engaged in the fit gaps or lose,
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  Speaker 5: he's not doing the early work to get up the ice.
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  Speaker 5: The rest of his game is going to struggle. So
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  Speaker 5: when you watch a player long enough, you understand where
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  Speaker 5: his game starts and where it can get to right
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  Speaker 5: and then you say, you're driving in on those foundational
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  Speaker 5: building box in their game right away. Like if you're
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  Speaker 5: going to set a gap and you're going to play
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  Speaker 5: physical and you're gonna be hard on guys, the rest
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  Speaker 5: of your game just follows and comes naturally. If you don't,
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  Speaker 5: then you're leaving the game to chance. You know, it's
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  Speaker 5: a little bit the same with every guy, maybe different
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  Speaker 5: for Sam Lensky, but he's got those foundational blocks that
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  Speaker 5: we need to see right out of the gate every night,
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  Speaker 5: and when he does that, his game kind of follows
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  Speaker 5: suit and he has a real good game for US.
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  Speaker 2: Head coach Leeljer Bennar joins us every Wednesday. It's all
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  Speaker 2: brought to you by mister Ruter Plumbing proudly rooting for
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  Speaker 2: Colorado's hockey team. Got a guy on your roster, coach
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  Speaker 2: that in the month of October had four points, then
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  Speaker 2: it jumped to twelve in November, he had fourteen points
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  Speaker 2: in December, and now fifteen already in January with eleven goals.
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  Speaker 2: What has made brock Nelson so good.
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  Speaker 5: Lately, Well, it's definitely there's a there's a confidence aspect
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  Speaker 5: to that. There's an aspect of feeling more and more
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  Speaker 5: comfortable with our team linemate's role and like for some
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  Speaker 5: guys like it's just you can get in those slumps
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  Speaker 5: where you feel like you're doing everything right okay, and
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  Speaker 5: it's not going in for you. We did a couple
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  Speaker 5: of guys still a little bit that way, and then
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  Speaker 5: when one goes in, all was in your conference builds
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  Speaker 5: and you just like he got a little extra swagger
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  Speaker 5: to your game, right. And but for Broth, to me,
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  Speaker 5: it's his skating like he was a little bit earlier
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  Speaker 5: in the year. We talked about it on entry, he's that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, he's a little bit in the train tracks,
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  Speaker 5: you know, not moving his feed like he's got he's
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  Speaker 5: got good, good fluidity do his game. But he'd get
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  Speaker 5: to the line and and he'd spread his legs and
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  Speaker 5: not kept didn't keep driving his speed. Now he's moving.
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  Speaker 5: He's moving all over the ice. Every time he touches
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  Speaker 5: the talk, he's doing it with speed. He's crossing over,
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  Speaker 5: he's hard to check. And then he has the hands
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  Speaker 5: and skill and vision to make plays. And so he's
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  Speaker 5: been doing that for for a good length of time
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  Speaker 5: here for us, and and I think that's something that
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  Speaker 5: can continue. He's a veteran player. He's kind of figured
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  Speaker 5: it out and now it's it's go time.
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  Speaker 4: The coach real quick. His game against that, the Maple
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  Speaker 4: League said that I was phenomenal. But he's a six
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  Speaker 4: to four guy and he's over two bills, but he
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  Speaker 4: comes in. He's so elusive for such a big guy,
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  Speaker 4: and he he stick candles. He almost gets that stick
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  Speaker 4: vertical down by his skates.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how he how how do these big?
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  Speaker 3: How do these How does it happen? I don't I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how it happens. How do you do that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. That's yeah. Some
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  Speaker 5: guys just have a knack for certain plays, right, Like
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  Speaker 5: that little inside toe gag he's using on guys at
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  Speaker 5: the line. He's busted through some really good defenders this year,
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  Speaker 5: kind of pulls it into his speed, you know, Like
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  Speaker 5: a guy like marsh On, he's a you know, in
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  Speaker 5: Florida and he used to be in Boston. He's the
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  Speaker 5: punt's always in his seat, so it's really hard to
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  Speaker 5: check them because it's like right underneath his body. His
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  Speaker 5: nose is over it all the time. There's guys that
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  Speaker 5: have a loose and moves escaping to their backhand, some
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  Speaker 5: to their forehand. Like it's just I don't know, Like
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  Speaker 5: it's something that they do early and then they get
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  Speaker 5: a knack for it. It just gets better and better.
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  Speaker 5: And it's things you know, young players in the league
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  Speaker 5: that come in aren't expecting, and so it's it's hard
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  Speaker 5: to say how they develop those some of those skills.
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  Speaker 5: But I mean you see like different nuances from different
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  Speaker 5: offensive guys and defensive guys throughout the league.
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  Speaker 6: Coach, I wish we had a reliable source on the
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  Speaker 6: road with you guys, but we got to proof. You know,
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  Speaker 6: Gabriel was on the ice. Can you give us a
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  Speaker 6: little more clarity. Where does he sit right now?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? No, well, no real update yet except for the
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  Speaker 5: fact that he's doing much better more and more in
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  Speaker 5: the gym every day, hitting the ice now, was able
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  Speaker 5: to stay with the group and skating on contact, as
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  Speaker 5: was Tays and Colton, which is all good. Signed. I
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  Speaker 5: think it's likely Colton looking like he'd be back in
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  Speaker 5: the line up first, then probably Tays and then Landy.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, like it's just these are those day
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  Speaker 5: to day things like these. I did more yesterday. I
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  Speaker 5: feel good. I'm gonna do a little bit more today
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  Speaker 5: until they get to that point where they're like, yep,
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  Speaker 5: we're going on, we want to go on the ices
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  Speaker 5: and you know, and take some contact and all that.
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  Speaker 5: And the more they're on the ice to coaster they
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  Speaker 5: will be playing. From a conditioning standpoint, they're putting out
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  Speaker 5: of the work in the gym too, So I just
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  Speaker 5: don't have a game or a day on it.
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  Speaker 4: Just yet, coach y'all, Ottawa smoked Vegas their last game
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  Speaker 4: seven to one, and last time you guys played them,
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  Speaker 4: you smoked Dami scored plenty of goals, but things got
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  Speaker 4: a little chippy between two teams that don't see each
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  Speaker 4: other that often, things got a little violent at times.
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  Speaker 3: What what are we looking at tonight?
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  Speaker 5: Well, this is this team's this team's doing a lot
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  Speaker 5: of good things. Okay, So, like they've gone through some
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  Speaker 5: of their injuries. Mostly it's the you know, unpredictable in
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  Speaker 5: their goaltending, right like, they you don't never know who's playing.
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  Speaker 5: They had the start rout and their backup wasn't playing well.
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  Speaker 5: They signed another guy. But they're defending metrics are actually
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  Speaker 5: really good, top ten in the league. And they have
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  Speaker 5: a lot of firepower, right Like, they're scoring way above
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  Speaker 5: their accepted goals both off and rush and they those
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  Speaker 5: ozone play So you've got to be you've got to
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  Speaker 5: be really conscious of your defending details against these guys,
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  Speaker 5: and they're hard to create offense against. But I think
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  Speaker 5: like right now the way their goaltender is just struggling
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  Speaker 5: and you guys joining the net every night. We got
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  Speaker 5: to put as much tucks and traffic to the net
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  Speaker 5: as we possibly can. You know, you've got to defend
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  Speaker 5: them hard. It's a well rounded team. They've got some
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  Speaker 5: fire power with lots of depth here, so it can
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  Speaker 5: be a challenge, especially after they had the confidence to
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  Speaker 5: bet Vegas the other night, Like, we don't want to
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  Speaker 5: be another stuff in their in their movement towards the
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  Speaker 5: playoff spot.
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  Speaker 2: Well, last thing for you, coach. I know this is
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  Speaker 2: a ways down the line, about five weeks away, but
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  Speaker 2: you guys have been in the past really really aggressive
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  Speaker 2: around the trade deadline acquiring talent. How comfortable are you
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  Speaker 2: with this roster right now? With how well the season
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  Speaker 2: has gone so far?
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  Speaker 5: So can or I lost all of that. I'm downstairs
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  Speaker 5: in the rink and you're cut and I got to
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  Speaker 5: run into the premium meeting here, so I gotta let.
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  Speaker 6: You guys, do.
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  Speaker 2: You think? Coach? Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: There. It sounded at times like he was being chased
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  Speaker 6: by attack of wild and then it switched to a
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  Speaker 6: bunch of plates falling off. Who's panda, Lady Red Panda.
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  Speaker 6: She was doing her practice routine and kept dropping.
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  Speaker 2: The bulls, So that was what are they sawing sticks
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  Speaker 2: over there? Is that what that screeching noise is that?
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  Speaker 3: That's what that was.
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  Speaker 4: That's sawing sticks. What you're hearing are our hockey sounds.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's down right there next to the bench.
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  Speaker 4: He's got to go to that meeting. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: the senators are on the ice right now. We're getting
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  Speaker 4: on the ice. So that's what that's what you're hearing.
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  Speaker 3: Holmes. Uh, But do yourself a favorite get.
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  Speaker 4: To a rink sometime, you know, again, just get to
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  Speaker 4: a rinky.
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  Speaker 2: Uh again. All conversations with the coach brought to you
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Vic, do you remember when you used to ice
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  Speaker 3: your butt?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? The old days. That's back when we're winning Stanley cupps.
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  Speaker 3: Well, is there are we remember?
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  Speaker 6: I cover the team daily when we won a Stanley Cupp? Wait?
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  Speaker 2: Is that? Is that the same year that you peed
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  Speaker 2: on the ice.
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  Speaker 6: No, No, that was before.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: That was before. Are we in need of an iced
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: butt comeback?
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: I think so? No, it's too early.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Come on, No, I'm just saying eventually down thea, but
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I mean eventually down the line.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Are we in need of an iced butt come back?
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: Since you see it fit, we'll make it work.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: The head coach, the f Jared Bednar joins us every
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: single Wednesday at eight o'clock a whole bunch to get
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: to stick around. Tune in on next week. Vick is
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: live from Radio Row and San Francisco. And that's all
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: thanks to Colorado off Road Colorado grown, Colorado owned Colorado
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: off Road online at coof road dot com. Nuggets lose
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: last night one o nine to one oh seven. They
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: just your two best players that were left available, Jamal
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Murray and Peyton Watson just had off nights, gonna make
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: it really tough. The fact that they were in it
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: late is even surprising. But to uh take the number
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: one team in the Eastern Conference Eastern Conference to the
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: wire while you're missing four of your five starters and
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: your two best players that were available had off nights, Uh,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: it's still pretty crazy.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Jamal Murray took full ownership last night after missing
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: those free throws. And the reason why it was just
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: so unsettling is because he's made so many clutch shots,
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: including free throws, probably more than anybody in the history
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: of this franchise when you think about it, when you
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: go back and look at some of the most clutch situations,
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: he is the definition of that.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: So to miss those last night was striking, even for him,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: I believe. But you could tell the legs just weren't there,
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: the legs. And it's just a build up, a build
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: up of so many minutes, even last night, time on
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: the road, and it just feels as if these guys
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: cannot get healthy fast enough. Four starters still on the bench,
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: four including the big fella, yep. And the schedule gets
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: really rough. Michael Porter Junior comes to town tomorrow night
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: with Brooklyn, and then after that the schedule is immensely difficult,
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: very difficult. You got the Clippers hottest team in the league,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: followed by OKC, you kidding me. Then at Detroit you
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: got the knicks down the line. That's a top stretch.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: It's really nice now, just kind of looking back at this,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: it was really nice that you had a whole bunch
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: of games against the Eastern Conference during this because he did.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: It was perfect. Yeah, it was. It's actually perfect that
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: those injuries came in a jam packed month of January
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: against what is believed to be the easiest stretch of
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: the schedule. Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Here's Jamal by the way, post game yesterday.
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: I just gotta be better. You know, I had to
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: go an opportunity there twice. I wants to redeem myself.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: This wasn't my night. I just gotta be better.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: I gotta be better all throughout the game, not just
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: miss free throws. I just I didn't play well today.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: Stats they otherwise, but I didn't feel like I had
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: a major impack on the game. I didn't take advantage
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: of my opportunities. I played too slow. I mean, we
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: got all this causes in the world, but I just
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: I just gotta be better.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I think that Jamal, both in his play, his consistency,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the things that he's been criticized for in the past,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: he has taken that five notches up from previous years.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I even think that his attitude has changed. Yea, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: even think that's better. Like I don't know how many
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: times vic in the past, even after a game in
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: which Jamal was off, he knew it missed a couple
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of clutch free throws. He knew it that he would
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: have a response quite like that in the post.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Game and going into detail. Yeah, I've never heard him
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: say playing slow and all that stuff. You put into
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: great detail on that, so you could tell he was
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: perplexed by the way it finished it if you had
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: to do it all over again for everybody who's upset
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: with Jamal, and clearly you want him to make those
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: free throws, it doesn't guarantee you anything. You go to overtime.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: The Nuggets looked tired, but if that situation came up again,
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: who do you want shooting those free throws? Yeah?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I give Jamal another shot.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: I'll ask all the Nuggets fans right now, of every
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: player on.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: This team, I would take him over Joker.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: So would I? Yeah, in the so would I. I
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: mean nothing against Joker, but he is your best free
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: throw shooter. Jamal Murray, yep, I just didn't go down.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: At the end of that game that the first three
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: he was fouled on. Man, I haven't seen him huff
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: and puff like that in a while. Getting that free
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: throw line. Hey, they looked really, really tired and exhausted
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: by the end of that game. And I think there's
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: a multitude of factors towards it. I think there's a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: lot of stress that's been put on Jamal because he's
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: been really the only guy that's been healthy during this stress,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: playing like thirty eight and a half minutes a night
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: or something like that, since Joker's been out of the lineup.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: On top of you just you're sitting in Memphis, Memphis
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: for two straight days doing nothing. You get on a plane,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you sit on that thing for five six hours, you
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: get into Denver less than twenty four hours before game time.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I just think it was like a perfect storm of
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: things that happened that led to that.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: If you missed it last night, it's something that I
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: don't think has ever happened in the history of the NBA,
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: and we may never see that happen again. You tell me,
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: have you ever seen a player on the opposing team
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: foul the same player, same two players involved here twice
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: at the three point line in the final three seconds
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: of a game. Now, that's never happened.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: And the fact that Detroit could not challenge either of
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: those calls because they lost their timeouts. They're out of them,
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: so they couldn't challenge anything. Certainly benefited the Nuggets because
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: you never know, one of those could have been overturned.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: By the way, we'll get to more Sean Payton George
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Payton audio as we go along today. The Avs are
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: back in action tonight. That's five point thirty with puck
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: drop right here Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five. Did
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you guys see the story? I know you did, but
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: the other story behind this because I don't know what's
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: going on. I didn't know that football was turning into baseball,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: where very clearly like the greatest coach who's ever graced
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the football field in the NFL can't get in the
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame on the first ballot. And look, I
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: guess this is unconfirmed, but this is from ESPN. The
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: reason why Bill Belichick was not a first ballot Hall
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of Famer. According to this anonymous source from ESPN, multiple
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: sources actually pulled the ESPN that Spygate into flake Gate.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: The twin cheating scandals during the Patriots championship run came
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: up in deliberations among voters. A voter who spoke on
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the condition of anonymity, said that Bill Pullian, an ardent
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Craft supporter and former general manager of the Buffalo Bills
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: in Indianapolis Colts, the chief rival during the dynasty, told
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: some voters he believed Belichick should quote wait a year
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: before induction as penance for Spygate, and it goes on
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: from there.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: By the way, Pollion has since denied it. Somebody reached
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: out to us.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: He's just gonna say.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Pollon has never said. That's totally untrue. Okay.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Pollion also said, I can't remember if I voted yes
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: or no, which is really suspect. You don't know if
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: you voted Bill Belichick to be in the Hall of
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Fame or not. Bro really, so that seems a little
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: weird to me too, But how like, what are we
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: doing here? I know, but it doesn't mean anything he's
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: gonna get in. It's just like, what's the point.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: Any committee where people, human beings are involved is going
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: to include biases? Correct, It's going to include at times corruption? Correct? Yeah, biases, corruption,
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: human nature. Every every committee who decides on every single
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: one of them, there's not one that is fool proof.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Not one doesn't exist most. I can show you to
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: the list of Baseball Hall of Famers and how many
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: of them were not like, there's some that are such unanimous, obvious.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: How some players were not unanimous Hall of Famers, first
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: ballot Hall of famers. It's beyond me.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: What one second here, You guys know this about me.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Who's the player that I hate most in football? And
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Haaron Rodgers, no question, he is the guy I can't
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: stand him.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: He's the first ballot Hall of Famer.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: There is no part of me that I'd be like, Nope,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: not in the Hall. He's first ballot. I've also said
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I think he might be the most talented quarterback I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: have ever seen.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: How much and how much you want to make a
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: bet that some of these voters will hold something against
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: him and deny him that first ballot is.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they probably will because they don't like his
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: attitude or whatever, and they feel like they have this
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: power and they.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Want to covet that power use it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: It's just it's just so silly. I mean, you're playing
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: a silly, dumb game. And even if you think that
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick is the Anti Christ, it doesn't matter I mean,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: he's he deserves to be there. So all you're doing
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: is is making yourself look silly. It just doesn't it
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: just doesn't sit well.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: Well, you know what fixes this? It's an easy fix.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Like every committee, every standard, every reveal, your vote reveal.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: It's got to be transparent. I mean, you can't hide.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: It can't be anonymous, you can't.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I think one thing that would fix both this and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the MLB Hall of Fame vote and everything. You get
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: one year in the ballot, you get one chance. What's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: the point of waiting five years? Either the guy's in
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: or he's out, and you just vote on it based
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: So what if that class size is thirty one people.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Then it is, Then it's thirty one people. Okay, I
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: mean it won't be though maybe the first year you
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: do it, but it won't be.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Some people.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: The guy they treated the worst in this is probably
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: TL right. Frell Owens was no doubt a Hall of Famer,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and I think he had to wait like three years
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to get on because people didn't like him.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: I had some people yesterday say, well, you know we
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: had to wait for Bowling and Shan he's still not in.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: So I don't mind him waiting and all this. I'm like,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: just because they're screwing Mike Shanahan doesn't mean you need
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: to screw Bill Belichick too, you know what.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't It's just it's just silly. It doesn't
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: mean anything anymore then.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, if this guy's not a first ballot, the
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: fact that Mike's not in, I mean, guys, I've said
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: it a billion times in this program. Pick it just
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: insenses me that he's not in. But it doesn't mean
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: that Bill shouldn't be in.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Two.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: Why an't we talking about Leggy? When's Leggy on the
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: show tomorrow Thursday? He's an expert on this field. He's
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: obviously on that committee. But I'll even tell LEGGI Tomorrow's Ley.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: I think every single one of your committee's votes, they
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: should be standard to everyone knowing what you vote for.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Nelly, is Lakey on with any show today?
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: That's a great question. He made it, you know. He
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: he probably does about five appearances every day, so he
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: probably was on yesterday.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: He was he was on yesterday, but I think it
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: was before this news. See if he's on with somebody today,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: because if not, say I just want two minutes of
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: his time, because I just want to ask him that question.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: It should be standard practice that your votes are public knowledge,
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: all of them. And you know what, if you don't
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: like that, then you're not on the committee. It should
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: be okay, you want to be on the Hall of
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Fame Voting committee.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Mos.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: Are you on some committees? I'm on some committees and
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: if somebody.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I'm on, I'm on the co I'm on the Coach
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: of the Year Jack Adams.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Yes, is your vote public?
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know that it is? Okay, I don't want it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I would I wouldn't. I wouldn't mind it if it was.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: What Mos, You're on this committee, but your vote has
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: to be public. It's up to you to decide do
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: you want to be here or not.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I voted for Kelly Clarkson on the first and have
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: American Idol.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: God, I'm sure you did, dork, I really like that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Kelly quack can heet good?
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Mommy listen, man, Uh, it wouldn't bother me if it did.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Because look, we all have our own biases, right, we
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: all have our own you know, idiosyncrasies and tics and
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: angst and whatever about coaches and players and whatnot.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: But in something as important as this and.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: The value of a vote. To do what's right, you
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: have to have intellectual honesty win out. It can't be
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: all this guy told me to go blank myself one
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: time or whatever. Intellectual honesty has to be the root
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: of it all when you're placing a vote like this.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: And so I don't mind if people if people look
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: at my ballot whatsoever. I've never really had a coach
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: be a jerk to me from another team or anything
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: like that. But if let's say I got into it
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: with Torts one time, but Torts was, in my opinion,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: the best, you know, the number one vote for Jack Adams.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I'd vote for him, you know. I mean, that's just
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: a that's just an ex.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: So he was asked about this yesterday from craikman Lyndall.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: He said he can't talk about it until the committee
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: releases the results. That this was leaked out. They can't,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: you can't talk about a leak. So they have to
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: wait until the results come out.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: And then, well, somebody was angry, obviously, and they leaked
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: it out. Somebody was not happy that Belichick was not
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: a first ballot, and they let everybody know about it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Now some of the feedback you're getting, Oh, you shouldn't
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: have had spygate, you shouldn't have cheated this just in this,
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: just in every coach that is in the Hall of
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: Fame at some point or another in his career as
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: coach during some sort of quote, cheating scandal something, Every
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: single one of them. Yes, some may be more prominent
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: than ose. So you're gonna hear some stories. Every coach
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: did something or was aware of something, or was around
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: when something was happening.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, So when Tom Brady's eligible in twenty twenty eight,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: does he have to of course not why he's It's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the exact same thing he was. He was the flake date.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we're holding the same standard deer for
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: why Belichick has to wait, why wouldn't Brady? Am I
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: wrong in a matter of consistence, But you're dumb?
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: That would be Yeah, it would be silly.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: It just this, This is a silly exercise to engage
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: in because he should be in there.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: It just if they say them, I'd have more respect
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: if they told me this. I didn't vote Belichick in
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: because I didn't want to be around the weird thing
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: with his girlfriend. I'm nervous you would take the microphone
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: at the podium and speak for him. That's why I
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: didn't vote for him. I'm waiting for them to break up,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: like that would make more sense to me anyway, Ready,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Okay that I was trying to think of that the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: other day, that cheer competition she was in. Oh, there's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: something about somebody's but so that about a butt, I forget. Yeah, Nelly,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: you'll pull it up. In the meantime, you can listen
• 31:06
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• 31:17
  Speaker 2: audio from yesterday, and I think something that is, if
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be aggressive and free agency, maybe learn from
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: your mistakes a little bit, because they've had a few.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in just a second. But
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: go ahead, Nellie, ready, Okay, I got the old guy
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: and he likes my butt.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Watch me dance cauch imon nut goatee.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: What.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to say?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Ready, Okay, ready, but.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: It's a good cheer. It really is, and every time
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I hear it, I don't think nut is the word
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that's coming at the very end of it. All right,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: So George Peyton, Sean Payton at the podium. They can't
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: make this mistake again this offseason. We'll get to it
• 32:08
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• 32:28
  Speaker 2: So here's a mistake that I don't think can be
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: made anymore. For what the Broncos want to approach their
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: offseason with. If there is one thing that has not
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: worked for them and they've kept going back to it,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: it's this go find and rely on the oft injured
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: free agent acquisition, whether that's Randy Gregory or dra Greenlaw
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: or JK. Dobbins or whoever. If guys have injury troubles
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: in the past, they're likely to reoccur in and you
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: need to have some sort of backup plan.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: George Peyton was asked about that about going out and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: finding injured free agentcy I.
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: Think we have a really good process. I think you
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: evaluate each player differently. You know, you don't want to
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: bring a bunch of guys who have been hurt. But
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: with Bo Lowry and our medical department, we feel really
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: strong about their opinion. If someone's been hurt someone else,
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: you know, maybe we feel like we can get them going.
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: We will have a plan. Not that other teams don't,
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: but we just feel really strongly about our medical team,
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: our sports performance team, where we can bring someone in
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: our environment and they can thrive. You know, I think
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: they have.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I understand that. It's like we trust our medical team
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: and all this different stuff. But I mean the history
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: is the history, right of injuries and guys that you
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: go out and acquire that have that past. Are you
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: starting to think that way a little bit about bow
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: and that ankle, because that's a lot of history with
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: that ankle.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: You know, I've heard different different stories about the ankle.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: There are some that said the injury was bound to
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: happen because he's predispose. It's a previous injury that was
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: bound to burst at some point, and it did at
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: the most inopportune time, final couple plays of a divisional
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: playoff game. Can't think of a worse time for the
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: injury to finally go and that now he's predisposed ankle injuries.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: And then someone else told me, I spoke to a
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: doc about this yesterday. It's just not true. It's just
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: not true. It's not like he has chronically bad ankles
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: and it's going to break every week and it's just
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: not the case. He just had an issue with that
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: ankle that existed and they didn't want to go in
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: there and fix it because then he would have been out,
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: and they just had to wait, and the timing could
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: not have been worse.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Here's Sean Payton yesterday on that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: What was found though a condition that was like predisposed
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: right at that where they always find a little bit
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: more when they go in And it wasn't a matter
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: of if, it was a matter of when. So because
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: when you look at the play and you're trying to
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: evaluate it, he said, the doctor operating surgeon said that
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: this was going to happen sooner than later.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know when somebody has a heart attack and
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: here's the report you get, well, you're gonna have one
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: sooner or later. We found that you had some serious
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: plaque build up. You know, you had heart disease that
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: you weren't aware of. You had this, you had that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: You hear that all the time, right, it was bound
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: to happen. Sounds like that kind of story. It was
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: bound to happen. We saw something after going in there.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, fine, but how many ankle surgeries has he had?
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: Three?
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: He's like, let's say, eighteen years old? Yeah, yeah, okay,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I don't know if it's the same. Look,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not hipposucka. I don't know if it's the same
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: one or not. But if your ankles keep having issues,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, you've had three ankle surgeries. Didn't you have
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: a procedure last year or too like after the year, didn't.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: It was supposed to be it was supposed to have
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: been a back procedure. But we're hearing conflicting reports about that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I mean, you know, a little clean up here,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: little little dudead there. I mean, he had one at Auburn,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: one in high school. Now one of the pros I'm
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: not Look, he could go with the rest of his
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: career and not have one. But it makes you wonder.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, it does make you wonder, right, not that
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: his gene pools bad or anything. I mean just you know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: what is it about it? You know there are guys
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: who are prone to I mean, what was wrong with Jake?
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: But his knees were bad?
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Right, Jake?
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: But simply his knees kept blowing up. Yeah, and there's
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: there's nothing nothing he could do about it. Couldn't play
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: There's every for every Jake Butt story where guys just
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: can't shake it. There's also stories like stef Steph Curry.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Steph Curry had chronic ankle injuries when he entered the NBA,
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: chronic to the point where they wanted to trade the
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: guy because he couldn't stay healthy.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: They tried to trade him to the Bucks for Andrew Bogett,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and the Bucks said no, because we don't trust his
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: ankle exactly.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: So he went a couple of seasons where he couldn't
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: get fixed, he couldn't get right to he's fine. He's
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: fine now. So it works the other way.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, Sam Buie could never get right, Greg Odin
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: could never get right. They could never ever their their
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: body simply wouldn't hold on.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: You're want to see a guy coming to town tomorrow night,
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Michael Porter Junior who had chronic back problems. Oh, he'll
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: never be normal, he'll never play. He figured it out.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: So texture is basically echoing what we're talking about here.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Was it bound to happen once or bound to happen
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: again and again? And I'll tell you why, Like, I'm
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: concerned about this. I don't know if this is going
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: to be something that he deals with, you know, every year,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: every other year or whatever, just that he's got bad ankles.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I do have this concern though, that if it is
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: just something that sort of lingers. The thing that makes
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: bo Nicks so dynamic is the fact that he is
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: super athletic. That he does take off and run with
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: the football when he has to, and he does it
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: in a way that only few in the league can.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Like there's only a handful of guys that you can
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: talk about that are as athletic as bo Nix is
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: when he takes off and runs. You know, like if
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen had injuries that limited his mobility, would he
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: still be a good quarterback?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Because he can throw the football, But it would certainly
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: change the game that he would play. It would change
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: how good Josh Allen is.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: I gotta read this text because this word bothers me.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: It's the inn word. It's the trendy word. All you
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: kids are using it. You love it, you love.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Using this word.
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: VIC. What the most cope thing I've ever heard? It's
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: three ankle injuries. It's a massive concern. What happens does
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: somebody like learn the definition of a word and then
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: everybody starts over using it on social media.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I like the word cope.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, my god, I'm so tired of hearing cope
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: every time somebody has a reason. I'm just giving you
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: examples where people thought they were chronic injuries and they
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: were fixed.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: That's all.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that this is going to be fixed.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: There have been great examples of this.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: You just don't have any aura of VIC. That's what
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: your cope is doing.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, enough with the trendy words.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Everything, stop gaslighting.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: What's another one? What are some of the trendy words the.
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: Last couple of years? Z Riz, that's a big one.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: What is that one?
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: I don't even raising up the batties? Yeah, Riz, vic
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: is a is short for charisma, basically means do you
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: have sway with the ladies?
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Literally, yeah, here's the other one. Cringe. Oh you're so cringe.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Cringe is done. We don't do cringe anymore.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Your mom.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good see that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: My mom is done for sure.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, your mom. You could have used
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: that in nineteen sixty two, and it applied then, and
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: it applies now. It's a perfect perfect that'll never go.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: On crashing out, crashing out some one, Yes, vic, you
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: crash out a lot.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: I mean every time somebody has it. Just oh last night.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: The reason it comes up is I think I said no,
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: it's gonna be okay and missing four starters. Calm down.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: Oh look at the kopium he's drinking.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: What are you?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: What does that even mean?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Just like this, shut up old man, go back to knitting.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: I ever tell you, guys about the time I I'm
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: an old man without a prostate. Ever tell you about the
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: time I saw a full grown pig crash out?
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: You wanted to, I'm gonna.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Keep you on the hook for that story for two
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: years before you tell it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what that's fine.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: That's fine. People have asked me the what's the pig story?
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I had to tell it on the bus the other day,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: driving from the airport to the hotel.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I had to tell the crazy pig story.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: I'll get to it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: That's great, Grandpa. Let's get you to bed.
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: But one thing is fact when it comes to injuries.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: You have friends, right, you have. We all have friends
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: who have combated knee injuries. I mean, I've got a
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: friend who every time he plays a sports he's going
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: down with a knee injury, right, and then others ankle
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: injuries like I've had. I've broken both ankles and I've
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: had both ankles sprained ankle injuries. That's the way I walk.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: It's my gait.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Can I can I ask you a question?
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Viacom It might be your gene pool in it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Anything in your body work properly. You're like broken both
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: my ankles, my back's on in half. I have no
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: thumbs that work right wells in my feet. I played
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: my eyes. I'm blind.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: I play sports. That's why things break. If you've never broken.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: A bone, yeah, I think I played sports.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I did that. Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: So have you ever hold on have you I'm asking Bright,
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: have you ever broken a bone? I've broken my toe,
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: but that's it. Never broke an ankle, never broke a leg,
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: never broken from a tip top. Jean Pool, I don't
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: know what to tell you. Man. It means you know
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: what it means. It shows me you're not trying hard enough.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: You know you're playing. You're loose. You're not trying hard enough.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: You're not breaking anything. You gotta break things. I got
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: young parents. I tell all young parents when they have
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: these little babies, they're gonna get stitches. Eventually you're gonna
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: have a big break in the face, head, skull. It's
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: gonna happen.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: That when you get quick hands like.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Bright. I was thinking about this the other day when
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: after a Vic did his hand.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: It's hard most it's hard for or Bret to break anything.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: When he spends eight hours a day in Nebraska milking cows.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: It's there's nothing much nothing to break.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Trying to get cows moving around. You talk to a
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: farmer before one of those cattle ranchers.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Uh, Vic, what you put your hand up one more time? Please?
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Because what I just I'm trying to figure out what
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: that is is that a bone?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: What I mean, what what is that thing? What is that?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: What is that? What is that?
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: A reverse angle?
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: Reverse it?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Reverse it? What? What is that?
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: That's a bone to a bat?
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Like if you if you put webbing between your fingers,
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: you look like a bat.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: What what it's a bone?
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: It's you know, it's good and bad. Number one. I
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: don't have picket hands like you. Here's Moser with that
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: last practice.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Mos Hey, look at this and mos your yells.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: So I don't have picket So it's good and bad
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: that I have this bone. It looks gruesome, but it
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: also allows me to palm a basketball. Okay.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: So basically right now is your evolution in progress. That's
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: what you are.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe all the great ballhandlers in the future will have
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: this bone sticking out right here that looks all like.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Uh No, when I like, uh hang on hand on
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: hand mush. When I watched the hills have eyes, I
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: didn't think that was evolution. Something very different to think
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: about this.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: I got I can do something even at my small stature, Mosha,
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: that you'll never be able to do in your life.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Ever, you can.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: You're gonna go to the grave. You're gonna go to
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: the grave. I can palm a basketball. You'll never with
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: your picket hands, never gonna.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I won't, No, I won't. I won't be able to
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: palm a basketball.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: No, Danissel goes like this, Danissel, the basketball in his
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: hands look like a little tiny like a little tiny grapefruits.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: Have you seen have you seen Yona's valenceness when he
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: has that ball and he holds it out to whoever's
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: defending him. By the way, Yona's last night sixteen points,
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: sixteen rebounds.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, hold on a second, we have to break news
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: from the NFL. Cleveland actually found a coach who, let me.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: Guess, Let me guess. I haven't seen it yet. I
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: haven't seen it. Just help us guess. Let's go. Give
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: me some clues, Give me some clues.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Clue me, clue me up, clue.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Well, we know who he is, first of all, Yeah,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: you'll know who he is.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: Okay, where was he coaching.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Last I don't know? Actually the Ravens, sorry, the Ravens.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, Raine coaching the Ravens. That staff got fired?
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Oh was it there? O? C was it their oc? Yes?
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: What's his name? His name is? On a second, to Todd. Todd,
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Uh huh, that's it. Yeah, that's it. That's it.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: So that leaves only the Cardinals and the Raiders as
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the two teams got a head coach right now, out
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: of all of these ten vacancies we had in the
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: off season.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Davis Webb has had two interviews with the Raiders. Is
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: that correct?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Is correct?
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: So if he's not been higher, if he's not been
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: offered the job yet, maybe he's declined the job. Maybe
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: all this again, you're talking about the Joel Lombardi firing,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: is all working in Sean Payton's favor.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: You know, Columbus said. Columbus said something yesterday after all
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: the news of the changes at Broncos headquarters, Joel Lombardi out,
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: and just the way Sean Payton sounded at that press conference,
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: how he's thinking back at the calls that were made.
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's not out of the question that Sean Payton
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: gives away some of the play calling, if not all.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: He would have to.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I want to get to that in a second, because
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: there was something that was out there yesterday that said
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: he was open to it if the right situation came.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: We'll get to it next