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J2534, the end result of Right to Repair legislation · Mechonomist Podcast

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  Thank you.
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  when that legislation passed in Massachusetts the manufacturers
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  and all the states
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  got together and agreed the one set of policies for making
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  software available so
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  SPEAKER_00: what that does um
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  What that does is it allows for your laptop to communicate with
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  the computer.
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  It allows for the laptop to communicate with your computers in
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  the vehicle.
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  SPEAKER_01: So going back to what I was saying...
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a J2534.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a Cardac Pro 360.
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  There's a lot of different manufacturers of it,
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  but that's the one that I got.
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  They run about $2,000,
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  and they are the result of right-to-repair legislation in
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  Massachusetts.
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  SPEAKER_01: When it passed in Massachusetts,
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  the manufacturers got together with the states and agreed to
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  one set of policies
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  SPEAKER_01: governing right-to-repair
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  SPEAKER_01: across all the states.
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  And what it does is it allows your laptop to communicate with
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  the computers in your
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  SPEAKER_01: vehicle,
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  and it allows you to reprogram your laptop using
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  factory-supplied software.
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  So the manufacturers had to supply their factory programming
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  software to everybody,
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  SPEAKER_01: and you can get it on nastif.org.
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  SPEAKER_01: You have to register, and you can download all of that software.
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  The interesting thing is that you can really only run one
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  software per computer.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you're doing a lot of programming like I plan to be doing,
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  you're going to either have to have a bunch of external hard
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  drives for each
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  SPEAKER_01: different manufacturer or a bunch of different computers.
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  There's actually a company called Auto Rescue Tool and Battery
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  or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: that provides a laptop that's already set up for that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So anyway,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  it's interesting that you can actually see the result of
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  legislation in a product
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  SPEAKER_01: that's available on the market.
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  SPEAKER_01: Without that legislation, that product would not exist at all.
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  Um,
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  it came about in 20,
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  the rights repair legislation passed Massachusetts in 2019.
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  And that's why a lot of rights repair advocates are working on
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  state levels because
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  SPEAKER_01: they feel like if they get one passed at one state,
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  SPEAKER_01: that the manufacturers,
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  SPEAKER_01: instead of fighting it in every single state,
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  SPEAKER_01: which would be too expensive,
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  SPEAKER_01: they just go ahead and capitulate to the rights repair stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the difference between automotive manufacturers and like,
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  SPEAKER_01: uh,
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  SPEAKER_01: farm equipment is there's no right to repair for farm equipment.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you still have to take your vehicle,
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  your piece of farm equipment back to the dealer if there's an
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  electronic problem
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  SPEAKER_01: and to be able to get programming.
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  Whereas independent shops can purchase this type of equipment
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  and be able to
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  SPEAKER_01: program the computers in your car.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, most shops don't do this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Very few shops actually do programming,
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  SPEAKER_01: especially independent shops actually do programming in-house.
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  They usually send it to the dealer or they get somebody to come
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  in and do it,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is the business model that I'm planning on using.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not straightforward.
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  SPEAKER_01: All the manufacturers are different.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's issues with keys.
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  Some of the keys have to be read into the computer and some of
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  you have to have
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  SPEAKER_01: special credentials on some manufacturers to read keys into the computer.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, like I said, it's not straightforward at all.
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  This piece of equipment that I got actually has remote assist
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  programming where you
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  can just basically hook the J2534 up to the vehicle and
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  somebody on a tech line on
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  SPEAKER_01: the other end will program the vehicle for you,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is pretty cool,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it's really expensive.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's $150 to $180 depending on the vehicle.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's pretty interesting.
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  The only reason that you don't have to take your vehicle to the
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  dealer to get
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  programming done and the only reason that I can even have the
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  business that I have
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  SPEAKER_01: is because of rights repair legislation.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, maybe the government's not all bad.
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  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, we'll see y'all next time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Peace, y'all.
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  SPEAKER_01: Any questions?
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: See y'all later.