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The Kenny Report | 10 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me for another week here on the
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  Speaker 2: Kenny Report tonight. Anthony ALBERIZI is losing ground in the polls,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll explain while he's become why he's become our
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  Speaker 2: incredible shrinking Prime Minister, breaking promises and denying the undeniable,
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  Speaker 2: forcing his ministers now to do the same. The Bondi
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  Speaker 2: Royal Commission running off the rails.
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  Speaker 3: It won't call.
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  Speaker 2: Former Treasurer Josh Friedenberg, and I'll explain how it runs
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  Speaker 2: the risk of missing the point and letting the country down.
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  Speaker 1: Another near miss.
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  Speaker 2: Sit in the airport and a shortage of air traffic controllers,
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  Speaker 2: but Air Services Australia sent one hundred and forty of
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  Speaker 2: them into early retirement just five years ago. I'll get
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  Speaker 2: the pilot's perspective my new documentary about the amazing rise
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  Speaker 2: of Pauline Hansen and One Nation forcing the Liberal.
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  Speaker 3: Party to battle for its very survival.
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  Speaker 2: A sneak preview tonight, plus Sophie Ellsworth in London and
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  Speaker 2: Gematon Union Caroline Derusse Here don't miss a minute. The
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  Speaker 2: Bondai Royal Commission is at risk of being a terrible
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  Speaker 2: waste of time and effort, an inquiry that will be
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  Speaker 2: seen as a diversion and distraction rather than one that
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  Speaker 2: will help protect this nation and its people. As I
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  Speaker 2: noted at the outset, the very name of the inquiry
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  Speaker 2: gave us cause for concern, demonstrating how the government is
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  Speaker 2: determined to avoid the real issues rather than a Royal
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  Speaker 2: Commission into the alleged Islamist terror attack at Bondai and
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  Speaker 2: the rise of Islamist extremism and antisemitism since the October
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  Speaker 2: the seventh atrocities. This is dubbed the Royal Commission on
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  Speaker 2: Antisemitism and Social Cohesion. Now it's been confirmed that the
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  Speaker 2: most senior Jewish Australian ever to serve in a national
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  Speaker 2: government will not give evidence. The person who did, perhaps
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  Speaker 2: more than anyone else, to warn about the rise of antisemitism,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Friedenberg, won't be called by the commission. Who could
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  Speaker 2: forget his speech at Bondai last year.
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  Speaker 4: This massacre at Bondai.
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  Speaker 5: Is the greatest stain on this nation, has brought the
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  Speaker 5: greatest shame.
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  Speaker 3: To our nation.
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  Speaker 4: I'm here to mourn, but I'm also here to warn.
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  Speaker 5: Unless our governments, federal and state, take urgent unprecedented and
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  Speaker 5: strong action. As night follows day, we will be back
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  Speaker 5: grieving the loss of innocent life in another terrorist attack
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  Speaker 5: in our country.
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  Speaker 2: Almost a year and a half before the massacre, Fridenburg
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  Speaker 2: had fronted a documentary on this very channel warning about
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  Speaker 2: the rise of jee hatred.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Josh Fridenberg and I'm a proud Australian Jew. I'm
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  Speaker 5: shocked by the explosion of anti Semitism across our country
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  Speaker 5: and I'm using my voice to ring the alarm belt
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  Speaker 5: with our fundamental freedoms and values under daily attack. Combating
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  Speaker 5: antisemitism is not just the Jewish communities fight, it's Austrayas fight.
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  Speaker 4: This is a call to action.
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  Speaker 5: The words never again must actually mean something.
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  Speaker 2: His warning and so many others, came repeatedly with growing
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  Speaker 2: urgency over more than two years, and in the wake
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  Speaker 2: of the Bondai attack, Fredenberg's anger at how they weren't
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  Speaker 2: heeded was palpable.
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  Speaker 4: This was all too predictable.
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  Speaker 5: We were told they didn't say gas the Jews on
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  Speaker 5: the steps of the opera House.
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  Speaker 4: They simply said where are the Jews?
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  Speaker 2: The former treasurer and one time deputy leader of the
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  Speaker 2: Liberal Party sent a detailed submission to the Royal Commission
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  Speaker 2: and offered to give evidence, but was told last week
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't be called, even though without his public advocacy,
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  Speaker 2: the Royal Commission might not even exist.
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  Speaker 5: You must call a Royal commission into what has happened
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  Speaker 5: here and into the rise of anti Semitism in our country.
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  Speaker 2: Australians who are Jewish deserve answers. All Australians deserve answers,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm worried we won't get them. The shunning of
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  Speaker 2: Freedenberg adds to my concerns. Last week the Commission allowed
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  Speaker 2: representatives of Palestinian Protest Group to cross examine Jewish Australians
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  Speaker 2: about the actions of the Israeli government, as if they
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  Speaker 2: could ever be responsible for that, and as if any
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  Speaker 2: actions overseas could be any excuse for threats or violence
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  Speaker 2: against Jews here and we heard this.
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  Speaker 6: I want to suggest to you that you have seen
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  Speaker 6: nothing that has emanated from the organizers of the rally,
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  Speaker 6: namely the Palestine Action Group.
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  Speaker 1: Which would suggest.
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  Speaker 6: In any way that the rally was being convened to
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  Speaker 6: celebrate those despicable attacks.
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  Speaker 2: Really, here's what he says, was no celebration yelling praise
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  Speaker 2: to God and wearing at Jews and demanding to know
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  Speaker 2: the whereabouts of Jews at a site where dead Israelis
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  Speaker 2: were supposed to be commemorated, while the bodies and hostages
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  Speaker 2: were still being accounted for in Israel. How could this
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  Speaker 2: be anything but a celebration, a celebration and a threat.
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  Speaker 2: And consider also that it came the night after this
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  Speaker 2: in the Sydney suburb of Lacember.
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  Speaker 3: I'm smiling, I'm smiling, and I'm happy.
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  Speaker 7: I'm elated.
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  Speaker 3: It's a day of courage.
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  Speaker 8: Waiting for.
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  Speaker 2: Could anyone argue this wasn't a celebration? He was elated?
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  Speaker 2: Why has that preacher shake Ibrahim de Doune not been
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  Speaker 2: called to the Royal Commission to explain that sickening display.
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  Speaker 2: Why have the Opera House protest has not been called
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  Speaker 2: and cross examined rather than have their lawyers cross examined
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  Speaker 2: the targets of their hatred, And why does the Royal
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  Speaker 2: Commissioner not seem to get it?
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  Speaker 3: As this query suggests.
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  Speaker 9: The thing that made the ninth of October twenty twenty
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  Speaker 9: three protests particularly difficult from your perspective was that you
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  Speaker 9: and as you understood it all the members of almost
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  Speaker 9: all the members of the Jewish community were in a
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  Speaker 9: state of very considerable distress by reason of the fact
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  Speaker 9: that events were still unfolding inside Israel, involving people being
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  Speaker 9: kidnapped and harmed. And it was in the context of
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  Speaker 9: that very heated atmosphere that you had the lively concerns
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  Speaker 9: about security for the Jewish community.
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  Speaker 7: If they were.
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  Speaker 9: To come into contact with the protesters.
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  Speaker 7: Is that a fear way of putting it.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not a matter of unfortunate timing and the
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  Speaker 2: targets of the hatred being in considerable distress or worried
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  Speaker 2: about bumping into the protesters. This was a threat, a
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  Speaker 2: celebration of slaughter, and a threat to push for more.
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  Speaker 2: What other way is there to interpret these protests. What
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  Speaker 2: they said, when they said it, where they said it,
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  Speaker 2: and how they said it.
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  Speaker 3: This was hatred.
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  Speaker 2: It was Islamist extremist hatred directed at Jews.
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  Speaker 3: Including in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: It's never acceptable, never ever, and especially not at the
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  Speaker 2: Opera House at the very moment it was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be lit up in memory of Israeli victims. These responses
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  Speaker 2: on October the eighth and ninth were scary and ominous.
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  Speaker 2: It was obvious they could be precursors to violence. They
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  Speaker 2: showed the level of due hatred in this country, how
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  Speaker 2: blatant this hatred is. And authorities stood back and watched,
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  Speaker 2: and governments did too little, and the problem has only
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  Speaker 2: gotten worse. I said so on the very night of
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  Speaker 2: the Opera House protest and many times since. I also
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  Speaker 2: made a submission to the Royal Commission focused primarily on
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  Speaker 2: how there were so many warnings and yet too little
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  Speaker 2: was done, and I too offered to give evidence and
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  Speaker 2: have not been called. I warned about the rise of
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  Speaker 2: Islamist extremism and anti semitism almost nightly here as you know,
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  Speaker 2: and in the Australian for two years leading up to
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  Speaker 2: citing examples, raising ideas, and talking to a range of experts.
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  Speaker 3: And community leaders.
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  Speaker 2: I communicated with the Prime Minister directly on these issues.
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  Speaker 2: The inaction is what the Royal Commission should be exposing.
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  Speaker 2: Why were the hate preachers not shut down? Why was
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  Speaker 2: this hatred tolerated? Why were there no arrests. Why did
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister not go to these locations and call
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  Speaker 2: it out. He should have done so with the opposition leader,
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  Speaker 2: the Premier and the state opposition leader and the Police
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  Speaker 2: Commissioner to make a strong and united stand declaring these
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  Speaker 2: threats would not be tolerated. Instead, we got very little,
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  Speaker 2: and yet still our Prime Minister won't even mouth the
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  Speaker 2: words Islamist extremism. So these are the questions. How did
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  Speaker 2: we fail? How can we do better? How can we
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  Speaker 2: eliminate this hatred from our country? Are in a volatile
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  Speaker 2: predicament because the threat is still there and it looms
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  Speaker 2: over all Australians. Yes, Jewish Australians have the most to fear,
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  Speaker 2: but all Australians are at risk in this struggle. The
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  Speaker 2: threat is with all of us. The struggle belongs to
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  Speaker 2: all of us, and we need to wake up and
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  Speaker 2: this Royal Commission must get to the heart of the
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  Speaker 2: matter or it will fail us all. Now, let's go
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  Speaker 2: to Australia's incredible shrinking Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi is getting
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  Speaker 2: smaller every day. Sadly for his colleagues, they now diminish
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  Speaker 2: themselves providing cover for him. You only had to see
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  Speaker 2: the Minister for Social Services on television this morning defending
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  Speaker 2: what any self respecting feminist might call indefensible.
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  Speaker 10: I think it was a complete misinterpretation from the former ambassador,
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  Speaker 10: a completely unnecessary interpretation of what the Prime minister said,
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  Speaker 10: and I think people watching it for themselves can make
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  Speaker 10: their own minds.
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  Speaker 2: Up poor a complete misinterpretation. Well, let's have a look
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  Speaker 2: at the alb and easy performance in question.
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  Speaker 1: The Japanese Prime Minister brought a melon. She she smuggled it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I got a couple of melons.
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  Speaker 7: She brought too.
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  Speaker 1: She brought too as you do. She just came in
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  Speaker 1: looking like Pamela Randa.
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  Speaker 7: She brought too.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, and they're beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: Well, as I showed you last week.
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  Speaker 2: This generated considerable offense in Japan, seen as an insult
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  Speaker 2: to Prime Minister Senai Takaichi, and today, writing in the
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  Speaker 2: Australian newspaper, the former Japanese Ambassador to Australia, Shingo Yamagami said,
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  Speaker 2: politicians come and go, some remembered for accomplishments, others for
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  Speaker 2: their gaffes, and however lighthearted it was intended to be.
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  Speaker 2: The recent joke delivered by Albanesi at the expense of
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  Speaker 2: Senai Takeichi is how he might be remembered by the Japanese.
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  Speaker 2: The former ambassador also spoke about the thoughtfulness of these
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  Speaker 2: valuable and prized melons as a gift, and finished by saying, so,
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, please enjoy Japan's sweet and juicy melons without
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  Speaker 2: thinking about a woman's anatomy, and instead focus on what
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  Speaker 2: our two countries must do together.
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  Speaker 3: Quite the diplomatic barb.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't it not surprising because Albanese's effort was more fitting
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  Speaker 2: for Sir Les Patterson than for a sitting prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: Yet today Albanesi issued a statement denying his exchange had
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  Speaker 2: anything to do with his female counterparts anatomy. This assertion
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  Speaker 2: is wrong, the spokesman said. So when the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: denies what we've all seen and heard, these ministers are
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  Speaker 2: locked into the same charade.
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  Speaker 12: Former ambassador has said this morning this was insulting, unthoughtful,
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  Speaker 12: and that the last thing that Japanese PM was expecting
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  Speaker 12: was quote to be so casually mocked by Australia's leader.
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  Speaker 10: Do you agree and no, no, I completely disagree with
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  Speaker 10: that interpretation of what the Prime Minister was saying. I
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  Speaker 10: completely disagree that he was in any way making the
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  Speaker 10: suggestion that you're proposing or that the former ambassador is proposing. Now,
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  Speaker 10: no way, not proposing, and well, no, no, And I
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  Speaker 10: think I'm really glad that you played that because I
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  Speaker 10: think people can make their own minds that they have.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, this wasn't leude, this wasn't sexist. According to Plibasek,
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  Speaker 2: she's defending this.
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  Speaker 1: They got a couple of melons, got a couple of melons.
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  Speaker 2: It was only last year that was again lording Julia
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  Speaker 2: Gillard's famous misogyny speech when she said Tony Abbott was
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  Speaker 2: sexist for wearing blue ties and checking his watch and.
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  Speaker 13: Be lectured about seeing and misogyny by this man, not now,
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  Speaker 13: not ever.
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  Speaker 10: Prime Minister was speaking for every woman who's ever been
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  Speaker 10: lectured or belittled or overlooked or ignored or patronized at work.
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  Speaker 10: That's why it hit such a chord internationally.
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  Speaker 2: And now Plibsek is defending Albanese's melonjokes. Albanese now has
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  Speaker 2: a track record of denying the undeniable. Here he was
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  Speaker 2: at a domestic violence rally.
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  Speaker 11: To be clear, we get asked to speak myself and
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  Speaker 11: Katie and we're told that that was impossible, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 11: I respect the organizers right to do that.
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  Speaker 14: That's a full out life. Our prime minister just flood
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  Speaker 14: outlied on a national scale in front of the whole country.
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  Speaker 2: And most of us would remember the reality of this
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  Speaker 2: unfortunate fall photos with everyone okay in the middle. But
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  Speaker 2: we have to compare that to what Albaneze said had happened.
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  Speaker 1: I stepped back one step.
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  Speaker 11: I didn't fall off the stage, just one leg went down,
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  Speaker 11: but I was sweet.
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  Speaker 2: Then of course we had the episode where the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister said.
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  Speaker 3: This Grace Tame.
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  Speaker 1: Difficult.
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  Speaker 3: But when Tame hit back, this is what he said.
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  Speaker 3: He said he.
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  Speaker 11: Has had a difficult life, and that was what I
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  Speaker 11: was referring to.
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  Speaker 2: Another example, here is what unfolded at Lakember Mosque earlier
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  Speaker 2: this year.
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  Speaker 8: About the issues afficted our community, and here is what
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  Speaker 8: Albanezi said happened.
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  Speaker 11: I've seen some of those reports and they're just simply
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  Speaker 11: not accurate. There were thirty thousand people plus at Lakember
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  Speaker 11: this morning. Overwhelmingly, the reception was incredibly positive. I walked
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  Speaker 11: through the crowd to the mosque and not a single
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  Speaker 11: person heckled. There were a couple of hecklers inside, they
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  Speaker 11: were dealt with.
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  Speaker 2: There's reality and there's Elbow World, and don't even get
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  Speaker 2: me started on the broken promises. Anthony Albaneze clearly has
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  Speaker 2: a credibility problem. Now every tall story makes him look smaller.
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  Speaker 2: He is our incredible, shrinking Prime Minister. Now, before we
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  Speaker 2: go on with the show, let me tell you about
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  Speaker 2: a special project I've been working on and I'm now
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  Speaker 2: excited to announce. I've been working on a new documentary
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  Speaker 2: about the biggest political story of the moment. That is
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the incredible rise of Pauline Hanson and One Nation and
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the battle for the right of center vote. We're still
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: working on the final edit, but I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: the promo.
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  Speaker 1: If an election was held today, our party may not.
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  Speaker 11: Exist with the political right at a crossroads.
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  Speaker 15: There is a profound crisis on the center right of
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  Speaker 15: Austrodian politics.
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  Speaker 16: Chris Kenny investigates a historic political realignment.
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  Speaker 3: Inside I'm doing Prime Minister run.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: I don't underestimate myself.
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  Speaker 7: I know I can do the job job.
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  Speaker 6: She's a woman that has stood her ground for thirty years,
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  Speaker 6: hasn't waited one way O.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sick of the out of the bloody it.
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  Speaker 7: Is but well one nature and hold up under scrutiny.
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  Speaker 2: What would you do to improve the cost of living?
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  Speaker 3: I'm fumbling for words here. If you get to give
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  Speaker 3: me a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Are you leading the Liberal Party at a time of
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  Speaker 2: existential crisis?
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  Speaker 3: We need to change your diet?
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  Speaker 15: So yes, people say, we may not agree with you,
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  Speaker 15: but we know ebected where we stand with Pauline Hanson The.
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  Speaker 2: Fight for the Right, seven pm, August twenty five on
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  Speaker 2: News twenty four. I can't wait to share this with you.
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  Speaker 2: You'll hear plenty from Pauline, from Angus and other key players,
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  Speaker 2: but you'll also hear from people who have already switched.
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  Speaker 3: To one nation. They explain why they've done it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you one more example about that later in
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  Speaker 2: the program. It's fast doating stuff. Don't miss it. Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: August of twenty fifth, seven pm here on News twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go live now to the Shadow Energy Minister.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Teen joining us in Canberra. Good to speak to you, Dan.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to ask you first up about the Bondai
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  Speaker 2: Royal Commission not asking Josh Friedenberg to speak. He's a
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  Speaker 2: bloke who was warning about the lack of response to
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitism for years leading up to Bondai puts in
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  Speaker 2: a formal submission. We know it would have been a
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  Speaker 2: detailed submission, yet he's not called. What does this tell
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  Speaker 2: you about the focus of the Royal Commission?
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  Speaker 1: Look, Chris, I think it's a missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 17: Obviously got to be very careful what you can and
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  Speaker 17: can't say about these things, but I think it's a
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  Speaker 17: real missed opportunity. I think all of us recall Josh's
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  Speaker 17: impassioned speech at the sight of the worst terrorist incident
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  Speaker 17: in Australia's history, and he has had strong views, strong thoughts,
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  Speaker 17: and he's also put forward some very strong policy responses
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  Speaker 17: and I think it would have been very worthwhile for
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  Speaker 17: the Royal Commission to be able to hear all those
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  Speaker 17: and I think it is a real missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Any response to anti Semitism and Islamist extremism needs to
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  Speaker 2: be multi layered. It involves the community and involves law enforcement,
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  Speaker 2: but it must be led by politicians. Surely we need
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  Speaker 2: to hear from senior politicians, including the Prime Minister, at
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  Speaker 2: this Royal Commission. Well, I think that would be a
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  Speaker 2: very very good outcome if that was the case.
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  Speaker 17: I think we need to hear from the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 17: I think we need to hear from the Immigration Minister
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  Speaker 17: or Home Affairs Minister at a minimum, and we also
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  Speaker 17: should hear fear from former leaders of this nation who
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  Speaker 17: have a particularly strong interest in this issue. And there's
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  Speaker 17: none more senior than the former Treasurer Josh Freedenberg. And
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  Speaker 17: that's why I think it is a real missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 17: And I just hope that the Royal Commission will get
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  Speaker 17: the outcomes that we all hope that it will, and
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  Speaker 17: it would seem missing key figures from politics does seem
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  Speaker 17: like a real missed opportunity in this instance.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go from the deadly serious to the
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  Speaker 2: embarrassingly puerile. Here's the Prime minister's now famous melon joke.
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  Speaker 1: The Japanese Prime Minister brought a melon. She she smuggled it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a couple of melons. She brought two she
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  Speaker 1: brought too, as you do.
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  Speaker 2: The Prime Minister now saying that it's a completely false
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  Speaker 2: assertion to suggest there is anything lude or purole about
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  Speaker 2: this joke.
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  Speaker 1: Your response, the Prime Minister should apologize.
• 23:02
  Speaker 17: Just get it out of the way. Apologize. It was
• 23:04
  Speaker 17: a mistake that went credibly wrong. You know, it just
• 23:09
  Speaker 17: needs him to be upfront and just apologize.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And while he's at it, he could do a second thing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 17: He could apologize for what he had to say about
• 23:17
  Speaker 17: Kylie Minogue, those two things.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: That came out of that podcast.
• 23:22
  Speaker 17: He should have the decency just to be upfront with
• 23:24
  Speaker 17: the Australian people, look down a camera and say sorry.
• 23:28
  Speaker 17: I mean you remember with Kylie Minogue, he issued a statement.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: While he was on a plane to Fiji.
• 23:34
  Speaker 17: So he's never fronted the Australian people and looked them
• 23:37
  Speaker 17: in the eye and said sorry. And now with regards
• 23:40
  Speaker 17: to the Japanese Prime Minister, he's now hiding behind something
• 23:46
  Speaker 17: where he says this wasn't.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: The meaning of what he was doing. You only have
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to look at it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 17: It's an insult to the intelligence of the Australian people
• 23:55
  Speaker 17: if he wasn't making some sort of loop.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Just apologize, Prime Minister.
• 23:59
  Speaker 17: I've got to say, Chris, when you said in your
• 24:03
  Speaker 17: introduction that with every tall story and that's been kind,
• 24:08
  Speaker 17: let's just say with every lie, it diminishes him and
• 24:11
  Speaker 17: makes him smaller.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: That is so so true.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Just want to get onto your portfolio, Dantee and energy.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: There's a lot happening. We've got government officials breaking on
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the farms. We've get farmers being fined for not letting
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: transmission officials onto their properties. But also the government reviewing
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: this key safeguard mechanism which is a key way of
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: forcing major companies to reduce their emissions. Why is this
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: review happening? What's going to come from it?
• 24:41
  Speaker 17: Well, Chris Bowen and the Prime Minister want to keep
• 24:46
  Speaker 17: pursuing their ideological agenda of literally destroying this nation and
• 24:54
  Speaker 17: the way they're going to go about it, and it
• 24:56
  Speaker 17: is so absurd, it's not funny. Is that they want
• 25:00
  Speaker 17: to start taxing our heavy industries even more. And then
• 25:05
  Speaker 17: as part of this review, this review of the so
• 25:08
  Speaker 17: called safeguard mechanism, which is another name for a carbon tax,
• 25:13
  Speaker 17: is they're going to consider putting in place carbon border
• 25:17
  Speaker 17: adjustment tariffs to make up for it. So we're going
• 25:20
  Speaker 17: to get green tariffs put in place to try and
• 25:24
  Speaker 17: protect industries which are about to be hit by a
• 25:27
  Speaker 17: green tax. Now, the simple solution to this is no
• 25:31
  Speaker 17: green tax, no green tariffs. Let our industries compete on
• 25:37
  Speaker 17: the international in the international economy, and Australia will actually
• 25:41
  Speaker 17: do well rather.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Than what is happening at the moment.
• 25:44
  Speaker 17: Our standard of living is collapsing before our eyes.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and guess what the companies they're competing against in
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: China and elsewhere in the world are not playing a
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: green tax or green levies of any kind. Thanks for
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: joining us, danteen, I appreciate it. Thee in Canberra Parliament
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: back this week. They'll be sitting tomorrow. But as you
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: have seen on the news, there was another dangerous near
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: miss Sydney Airport yesterday when two passenger jets came close
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: to a collision while taxing.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Here's Channel nine.
• 26:14
  Speaker 18: Seven twenty this morning at Sydney Airport, a packed JQ
• 26:18
  Speaker 18: four zero two bound for the Gold Coast was taxing
• 26:21
  Speaker 18: when a cutter Boeing Triple seven aircraft appears out of
• 26:25
  Speaker 18: nowhere and both are forced to come to a sudden halt.
• 26:29
  Speaker 19: We need to say to car as I did suggest,
• 26:32
  Speaker 19: due to the proximity of the Triple seven with the
• 26:36
  Speaker 19: Southern stop, we have had a situation where one of
• 26:39
  Speaker 19: our Kavan cru is injured.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Now this could have been catastrophic, and it comes after
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: a number of other incidents and air traffic delays being
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: blamed on a shortage of air traffic controllers. But it's
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: been revealed that government owned Air Services Australia paid out
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: one hundred and forty air traffic controllers just five years
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: ago cutting costs. During COVID, they spent fifty eight million
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: dollars of taxpayers money on lump some payments to send
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: controllers into early retirement. Now we desperately need more controllers
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: and they take eighteen months to train. Let me bring
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: in Captain Steve Cornell from the Australian and International Pilots Associations.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Steve really appreciate it. Firstly, can
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: we start with yesterday's near miss. People might think that
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: planes on the apron going at low speeds coming to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: a near collision is not terribly dramatic, but just how
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: could such an incident become catastrophic?
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: Thanks Chris, and pleasure to be with you.
• 27:43
  Speaker 20: Obviously, Yes, as you said, aircraft are moving relatively slowly
• 27:47
  Speaker 20: when they're on the time make, but they're still moving
• 27:49
  Speaker 20: in a speed that could cause significant damage and as
• 27:51
  Speaker 20: we saw yesterday with the sudden breaking that the Jesto
• 27:54
  Speaker 20: aircraft had to undertake cane cause injury to the cover
• 27:57
  Speaker 20: and crew, and they're particularly set board during this phase
• 28:01
  Speaker 20: of the flight because they're up on their feet doing
• 28:02
  Speaker 20: the safety demonstration, etc. Yesterday's events don't seem to be
• 28:06
  Speaker 20: directly related to the air traffic control shorges that we're
• 28:09
  Speaker 20: seeing at the moment, but it is concerning when the
• 28:14
  Speaker 20: last line of defense, that is the pilots in this case,
• 28:16
  Speaker 20: have to come into play to prevent what could be
• 28:18
  Speaker 20: quite a serious accident.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: But presumably the greatest risk of any contact there is
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: with wings rupturing fuel tanks while engines are running.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, that's definitely a risk.
• 28:30
  Speaker 20: I think the incident we saw a couple of weeks
• 28:32
  Speaker 20: ago in Sydney where an aircraft was cleared across the
• 28:35
  Speaker 20: runway whilst another aircraft was landing. That one was probably
• 28:39
  Speaker 20: more serious and potentially a greater impacting than both of
• 28:42
  Speaker 20: those aircraft were low with passengers. In this case, obviously
• 28:45
  Speaker 20: one aircraft was under toe being repositioned. That aircraft was
• 28:48
  Speaker 20: empty apart from those conducting their repositioning, but the jet
• 28:52
  Speaker 20: Star flight presumably had a full load of passengers on board.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Well, what just staggers me is that back during COVID,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and this was probably the previous federal government, it might overlap.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: But instead of hanging on to air traffic controllers and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: understanding that of course, once the COVID the pandemic was
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: dealt with, air traffic would go back to normal. They
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: got rid of one hundred and forty staff and now
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: they have to train them. Has this left the public
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: and pilots and the industry in a situation that should
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: have been avoidable.
• 29:26
  Speaker 20: I think we've certainly seen the end consequences and fairly
• 29:30
  Speaker 20: poor decision making during the COVID period. Obviously it's easy
• 29:33
  Speaker 20: to look back at the benefit of hindsight, but travel
• 29:36
  Speaker 20: did bounce back very strongly. Air traffic controllers, like pilots,
• 29:39
  Speaker 20: operate in a global market in terms of the demand
• 29:42
  Speaker 20: for their skills. So those air traffic controllers who were
• 29:45
  Speaker 20: let go during COVID no doubt have found employment elsewhere
• 29:48
  Speaker 20: in the world. And I'm guessing on better terms and
• 29:51
  Speaker 20: conditions not being in Australia.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Well, let me just show the Minister for Transport on
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: this today.
• 30:00
  Speaker 21: I think that this issue around air services staffing, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 21: it goes back a long way the fact that we
• 30:06
  Speaker 21: had post during COVID instead of actually keeping these incredible
• 30:11
  Speaker 21: staff on board, we had the previous government decide to
• 30:14
  Speaker 21: offer early return to the scene.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Now it did that.
• 30:16
  Speaker 21: And we lost a large number of air traffic controllers
• 30:20
  Speaker 21: from our system. We saw aviation surge back really quickly
• 30:24
  Speaker 21: after COVID. I think we all thought there'd be sort
• 30:26
  Speaker 21: of some gradual demand, but it just went absolutely gangbusters.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Just finally, Steve, you're being very kind saying it's easy
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: to have hindsight, but anybody who'd have told you once
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: COVID was over, people are going to get back onto
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the planes.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, look, they certainly did.
• 30:42
  Speaker 20: I think we're far enough away from COVID now though
• 30:45
  Speaker 20: that I'd certainly love to see it stop being used
• 30:47
  Speaker 20: as an excuse for any number of things. I think the
• 30:51
  Speaker 20: Minister and Air Services need to get on with putting
• 30:54
  Speaker 20: in some solutions these problems fairly quickly, and that is
• 30:56
  Speaker 20: difficult given the lead time that it does take to
• 30:59
  Speaker 20: train a new traffic.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much, Steve, appreciate it. Captain Steve Corneldre
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: from the Pilot's Association. They need to get more air
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: traffic controllers and they.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Need to get them quickly.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: After the break, I'm going to catch up with Zoey
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: mackenzie talk about the poles and some more bad news
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: for Labor, this time not very cherry right for the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: coalition either. Now, the latest Federal News poll in the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Australian newspaper has Labor on its lowest primary vote since
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, just days before Julia Gillard was ousted as
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister. Labor is now sitting on twenty nine percent,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: tied with one Nation, and talk about the fight for
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the right. Coalition is way back on eighteen percent, down
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: one point.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Joining me live now is.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Shadow Cabinet Secretary Zoey Mackenzie.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Zoe.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: You must be worried about those poles, all right, Labor's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: clawing back, but it seems to be helping one nation
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: now rather than the coalition.
• 31:57
  Speaker 16: Look, I'm not worried about the polls, Chris, not because
• 32:01
  Speaker 16: I'm indifferent to them, but because we're getting on with
• 32:02
  Speaker 16: the job.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:03
  Speaker 16: Over the break, Angus and Jane stood up and presented
• 32:06
  Speaker 16: the fantastic plan we have for the Australian people the
• 32:09
  Speaker 16: plan that we will take to them in twenty twenty eight,
• 32:11
  Speaker 16: but they will prosecute each and every day between now
• 32:15
  Speaker 16: and then. The only other poll I'm focused on is
• 32:17
  Speaker 16: the one we're going to have in Victoria at the
• 32:19
  Speaker 16: end of November. Just come from meeting with David Kitchen,
• 32:22
  Speaker 16: our amazing candidate for Bayswater. During the break, I've been
• 32:25
  Speaker 16: out with all of my candidates in the state seats
• 32:27
  Speaker 16: in Victoria. The anger with this Allen now Carroll government
• 32:33
  Speaker 16: is palpable. People are furious that all they see is
• 32:38
  Speaker 16: a degradation of services and increased labor debt. That's the
• 32:42
  Speaker 16: poll I'm focused on to give Victoria a fresh start.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a worry too, isn't it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Because the polling since labor changed Premiere shows the labor
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: vote holding up a bit and again one nation messing
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: with the coalition vote in a big way.
• 32:57
  Speaker 16: I think that's just enormous relief that they haven't got
• 32:59
  Speaker 16: to see to alanis premier anymore. And of course Ben
• 33:02
  Speaker 16: Carroll's running around saying wasn't me, wasn't me, wasn't me
• 33:05
  Speaker 16: sitting around that cabinet table for the last ten years, Sorry, Ben,
• 33:08
  Speaker 16: it was. Nevertheless, we have a case to make. We
• 33:12
  Speaker 16: have to explain to people what our liberal coalition will
• 33:16
  Speaker 16: do for the state of Victoria if it's given the
• 33:19
  Speaker 16: opportunity to give the state a fresh start in November.
• 33:22
  Speaker 16: It is desperately needed. In my part of Victoria, we
• 33:26
  Speaker 16: pay extra payroll tax, we pay extra land tax, we
• 33:29
  Speaker 16: get nothing in return for it. We're giving most of
• 33:31
  Speaker 16: the airbn B tax. You know that the state producers
• 33:34
  Speaker 16: that was levied under this labor government goes to Spring
• 33:36
  Speaker 16: Street and we don't see a buck back. We've got
• 33:39
  Speaker 16: one increased bus line and that's about it for us.
• 33:42
  Speaker 16: So we desperately need a change in my part of Victoria,
• 33:46
  Speaker 16: but we desperately needed to change across Victoria. And I
• 33:49
  Speaker 16: look forward to working with my colleagues at the state
• 33:51
  Speaker 16: level as well as here on the federal level to
• 33:53
  Speaker 16: explain what it is a coalition will do for the
• 33:55
  Speaker 16: state and for the country.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: All Right, I want to get back to the battle
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: against is little miss extreme in this country nationally and
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the Home Affairs Department is revealed we've got two hundred
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: and ninety eight individuals on the National Counter Violent Extremist
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Program making them potentially is the most extremist. This is
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: a worry what so many people in this country that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: authorities are so worried about.
• 34:20
  Speaker 16: Yeah, remember this was the government that had largely deprioritized
• 34:23
  Speaker 16: focus on counter terrorism before the Bondai massacre last year.
• 34:28
  Speaker 16: I have spent the entire day today in this building,
• 34:31
  Speaker 16: in addition to Shadow Cabinet in a duty of care discussion,
• 34:34
  Speaker 16: which is about how we encourage tech platforms to design
• 34:39
  Speaker 16: safer products, right, how you just take the nasty, particularly
• 34:44
  Speaker 16: things like child sexual exploitation material and indeed the radicalization
• 34:49
  Speaker 16: and extremist material. The Home Affairs Minister is always talking
• 34:53
  Speaker 16: about being more worried about what's happening in the browser
• 34:55
  Speaker 16: than on the border. It's no excuse for not keeping
• 34:57
  Speaker 16: your eyes on the border. But at the same time time,
• 35:00
  Speaker 16: let's see what the government's going to do to actually
• 35:03
  Speaker 16: tackle the Internet as a vehicle for extremism, for radicalization
• 35:08
  Speaker 16: and for some of the dangers that they're now having
• 35:10
  Speaker 16: to kind of catch up on in terms of this
• 35:13
  Speaker 16: new unit looking at extremism.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: So I know you've spent most of your working life
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: involved in international trade and diplomacy. You are also a
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: woman if I could be so binary, what's your take
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: on Anthony Alberezi and his jokes about Senai Takaichi and
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the gift of those melons.
• 35:34
  Speaker 16: It was just so graceless. I think somebody in the
• 35:37
  Speaker 16: Prime Minister's office has fundamentally failed to do their job,
• 35:40
  Speaker 16: to not look at who he was being interviewed by,
• 35:42
  Speaker 16: to not look at the questions he might be asked,
• 35:44
  Speaker 16: and not indeed to say to him, hey, maybe you
• 35:46
  Speaker 16: shouldn't say something absolutely stupid and offensive in relation to
• 35:51
  Speaker 16: the Prime Minister of Japan. He's made it very hard
• 35:54
  Speaker 16: for the new ambassador, Andrew Sheer, an exceptionally talented diplomat,
• 35:59
  Speaker 16: to keep a steady relationship there.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: May I say, I.
• 36:02
  Speaker 16: Was up at Pitch Black a couple of weeks ago,
• 36:04
  Speaker 16: and I was with the Japanese Air Force, the F
• 36:07
  Speaker 16: thirty five crew the train with our crew in Tindle,
• 36:10
  Speaker 16: and they were full of grace, enthusiasm and partnership. So
• 36:14
  Speaker 16: the good news is the Australian Japanese relationship is a
• 36:17
  Speaker 16: strong one, but not because of what the Prime Minister
• 36:20
  Speaker 16: did despite it.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Zoe appreciate Zoe Mackenzie, then a
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: member for Flinders joining us from Canberra. We've got to
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: get to a break on the other side. We're going
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: to cross to London and catch up with Sophie Oorsworth.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: There'll been more developments there as on the backlash against
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: illegal immigration. An opinion poll in the UK has found
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: that forty three percent of Brits believe immigration has been
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: mostly bad for the UK.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: That's up from thirty three percent ten years ago.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Hardly surprising when you consider that more than two hundred
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: thousand people have crossed the English Channel in small boat
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: says illegally ands over the past eight years. He is
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Conservative leader Kemmy Badknock.
• 37:05
  Speaker 14: This is a country where people literally land on the
• 37:08
  Speaker 14: beach and they get put up in hotels and given
• 37:11
  Speaker 14: free food and so on. It's costing us billions of pounds.
• 37:14
  Speaker 14: We just need to stop being naive. We need to
• 37:16
  Speaker 14: stop being naive about immigration.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Joining me Live is News Corp. You're correspondent and News
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: twenty four contributors.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Sophie R's with Sophie, thanks for joining us.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Kemmy Badknock getting very tough on immigration there, at least
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: in her retoric.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: This is a.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Response to Nigel Faraje and forum and reform. Presumably this
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: is going to be the top issue driving the problem
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: for the Conservatives and labor in the UK.
• 37:42
  Speaker 15: Surely it is, indeed, Chris. And look, that's all well
• 37:47
  Speaker 15: and good for Kemmy Badenock to come out and say
• 37:49
  Speaker 15: what a massive problem illegal migration is. But hello, Conservatives
• 37:54
  Speaker 15: are in office for over a decade and tens of
• 37:58
  Speaker 15: thousands of people into England illegally under their watch, so
• 38:04
  Speaker 15: their credibility on this issue is incredibly low. And then
• 38:07
  Speaker 15: you have the new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, who said
• 38:10
  Speaker 15: virtually nothing on this since he got the keys behind
• 38:15
  Speaker 15: me to ten Downing Street. He's only been in office
• 38:18
  Speaker 15: two weeks. Here, Chris, he's back after a week off.
• 38:22
  Speaker 15: This is an issue that he has to address and
• 38:24
  Speaker 15: the illegal migrants are still rolling in. Look at the
• 38:27
  Speaker 15: weather here, Chris. Why wouldn't they absolutely glory.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Go to England get some sunshine. I can't believe it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: He's been in the job three weeks. He's been on
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: leave for one of those, Andy Burnham. But he's back
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: now promising to work on some cost of living issues
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: or making life.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Is he there any idea what he is going to do?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Throw around some more taxpayers money.
• 38:48
  Speaker 15: Well, he's on, Chris, a week long tour around the UK.
• 38:52
  Speaker 15: He's in listening mode, listening to Britain's about their concerns.
• 38:56
  Speaker 15: But listening to talkback radio this morning, callers a reeing
• 39:00
  Speaker 15: up saying we know what the problems are. We don't
• 39:02
  Speaker 15: need him to tour the country with us telling him
• 39:06
  Speaker 15: what the issues are. Cost of living here, the taxation issues,
• 39:10
  Speaker 15: the illegal migration issues, energy prices, the list goes on
• 39:15
  Speaker 15: and on and on. But he is in listening mode,
• 39:17
  Speaker 15: he's traveling around the country. He's back in work mode now, Chris.
• 39:22
  Speaker 15: But you know you don't have to ask any Britains
• 39:25
  Speaker 15: what the main issues are here. And I would argue
• 39:27
  Speaker 15: many would say illegal migration and cost of living.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, spot on, we can see them from here, thanks
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: largely to your reporting and the like. Let me just
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: get you finally on this embarrassing story for the Royal Navy.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: They've been using these drones, but they've been taking data
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: back to China.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: What's going on there?
• 39:46
  Speaker 15: Well, that's right, Chris. This has been exposed that these
• 39:50
  Speaker 15: drones that we've been used by the military here, provided
• 39:54
  Speaker 15: by China, are being watched by China. Surprise, surprise. They've
• 39:57
  Speaker 15: had ample warnings about Chinese drones for years and in
• 40:02
  Speaker 15: a plan for opening up the Straight of Hall Moves,
• 40:06
  Speaker 15: Britain proposed using these drones, these Chinese operated drones, So
• 40:11
  Speaker 15: they're on high alert now. It's taken this to occur, Chris,
• 40:15
  Speaker 15: but incredibly concerning that China are watching what Britain is
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: doing to keep the country safe.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Well, it would.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Seem pretty obvious, wouldn't it When the Chinese communist superpower
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: is the main rival to Western liberal democracies.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't buy your.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Defense gadgets from them, but we seem to always learn
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: the hard way. Thanks for joining us, Sophie all over
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: as ever appreciated.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Sofiel's worth their live in London. We're going to get
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: to a break.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: On the other side of that, we'll catch up with
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Gemtone Union Caroline derusso we'll talk about the Royal Commission
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: running off the rails and I'll show you a little
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: bit more of my upcoming documentary on the Fight for
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  Speaker 2: the Right. Let's get into our Monday panel with Gemutoni
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  Speaker 2: Uni from GT Communications.
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  Speaker 3: On the desk with me.
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  Speaker 2: Carolines were also sky On News contributor and WA Liberal
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  Speaker 2: Party President. Good to see you, madam, Adam President. Let's
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  Speaker 2: get madam President, let's getting it. Let me start on
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  Speaker 2: the Royal Commission. I topped the program with this. I've
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  Speaker 2: got grave concerns about where it's going, Jemma. The way
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  Speaker 2: that the Palestinian lawyers were able to cross examine Jewish
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  Speaker 2: Australians last week. Now Josh Freedenberg being rejected essentially from
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  Speaker 2: giving evidence the Royal Commission is not addressing the key
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  Speaker 2: drivers of the problem in this country. That is is
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  Speaker 2: the most extremism.
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  Speaker 22: It's very concerning that Josh was not allowed or has
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  Speaker 22: not been allowed or invited to testify or to I
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  Speaker 22: just don't understand. I genuinely don't understand that, given that
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  Speaker 22: the Royal Commission has so far seemed to be quite
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  Speaker 22: committed to having a breadth of evidence now in relation
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  Speaker 22: to what we saw last week, which was appalling. Part
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  Speaker 22: of me says, I'm glad that Australian saw that because
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  Speaker 22: it was a Paul and where perhaps and this is
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  Speaker 22: lawyers amongst us, my learned friend across the West including
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  Speaker 22: might have a view on this, but perhaps the strategy
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  Speaker 22: was to allow that to take place to be able
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  Speaker 22: to comment on it, because it's all about I keep saying,
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  Speaker 22: this is a boil that needs to be lanced. I
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  Speaker 22: honestly thought we'd be in the recovery stage by na,
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  Speaker 22: but it seems that we're not. But the fact that
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  Speaker 22: that was allowed to take place was disgusting. It also
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  Speaker 22: allowed Australians to see what these people are actually like.
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  Speaker 2: So let's go to our learned friend in the West, then, Caro.
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  Speaker 2: Apart from obviously the fact that they should hear from
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  Speaker 2: Josh Friedenberg because of his role in this warning about
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  Speaker 2: anti Semitism, including in a documentary years before the horror
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  Speaker 2: at Bondai, we would also expect to hear from Anthony
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  Speaker 2: albanezy Wood and where he needs to be cross examined
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  Speaker 2: on what he did after October the seventh, why he
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  Speaker 2: didn't do more as so many people were asking him
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 13: And I think that's a very good point, mostly because
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  Speaker 13: this is not just a royal commission about what happened
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  Speaker 13: on the day of Bondi. Right when you're talking about,
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  Speaker 13: you know, direct evidence in relation to what happened on
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  Speaker 13: the day, you can understand how there's a narrower cohort
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  Speaker 13: of witnesses or people to give evidence that would be
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  Speaker 13: relevant to that. The minute you open it up to
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  Speaker 13: something like the broader issue of anti Semitism, then all
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  Speaker 13: of a sudden you do bring in a lot more
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  Speaker 13: relevant people and various members of our political class, and
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  Speaker 13: the Prime Minister is one of them. They have a
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  Speaker 13: place in you know what the policy is, the positions
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  Speaker 13: that are taken, you know the failures that have occurred,
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  Speaker 13: and why they've allowed them to occur, and what they've
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  Speaker 13: tried to do to remediate that, if they have at all.
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  Speaker 13: And until you hear that sort of evidence, then you know,
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  Speaker 13: you really wonder, well, how comprehensive is this Royal Commission?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 2: I want to go to my documentary that I've announced
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  Speaker 2: today and I want to share with everybody a little
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  Speaker 2: snippet from the doc over bit of preview.
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  Speaker 3: And Gemma and Caroline.
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  Speaker 2: It's a particular residence, I think with both of you,
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  Speaker 2: because as Italian Australians you'll get this story very well.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a part of the documentary I
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  Speaker 2: just stumbled upon. We were filming in Griffith, which is
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  Speaker 2: in the electorate of Parah, where they've voted for one Nation.
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  Speaker 2: We popped into this cafe to just get some morning tea,
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  Speaker 2: and we got to meet the people and the owner
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  Speaker 2: and have a look at this little story about white
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  Speaker 2: people might have switched from the Coalition to One Nation.
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  Speaker 2: Established in nineteen fifty two, the Italian bakery Bertoldo's is
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  Speaker 2: a local institution employing about sixty people.
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  Speaker 1: A small business like this, small to medium sized business.
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  Speaker 2: Traditionally it'd be a coalition supporter, wouldn't you a liberal voter?
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  Speaker 3: Traditionally?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, all my life, Yes, all my life.
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  Speaker 3: All your life a liberal voter. How did you vote
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  Speaker 3: in the Pharaoh by election? I went for Pauline One Nation?
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  Speaker 3: David Barley, David Farley.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, John Bertoldo is the fourth generation to run the business.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you comes out of an immigrant family.
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  Speaker 1: This whole area has been built by.
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  Speaker 2: Immigrants, exactly, exactly, So why would they vote for one
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  Speaker 2: nation if it's any immigration when the whole of this
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  Speaker 2: area has been But the Griffith area has really been
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  Speaker 2: built up by immigrant families. Yeah, I think it's because
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  Speaker 2: there's too many coming in there. We go a little
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  Speaker 2: slice of life from Griffith, Caroline. This will be familiar
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  Speaker 2: to you, right, immigrant families still want immigration controlled.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, of course we do.
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  Speaker 10: Of course we do.
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  Speaker 13: And you know when you look at but when you
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  Speaker 13: look at the generation of immigrants, you know that you
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  Speaker 13: were talking about there in the documentary. These are people
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  Speaker 13: who came here with absolutely nothing, who worked and probably
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  Speaker 13: still work seven days a week, who bought into this country,
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  Speaker 13: brought into our values and want to see our country
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  Speaker 13: prosper and their family and next generation prosper. That there
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  Speaker 13: is a really important slice of what makes this country special, Chris,
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  Speaker 13: and you know we should all buy into that. It's
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  Speaker 13: a values conversation. But also you know, we still want
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  Speaker 13: to have access to infrastructure. If you come from a
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  Speaker 13: migrant family, you still need to get into your doctor,
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  Speaker 13: you still want your kids to be able to buy
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  Speaker 13: a house. And if that means that immigration needs to
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  Speaker 13: be measured and controlled so that we're bringing in quality
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  Speaker 13: not just quantity, well then two plus two equals four
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  Speaker 13: for migrant families just like anyone else.
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  Speaker 3: Jemmy, you won't be surprised.
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  Speaker 2: We met people of all types who now not embarrassed
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  Speaker 2: to say I vote one nation.
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  Speaker 22: I say that it's like the anti fight club. Like
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  Speaker 22: a couple of years ago. It's like you don't talk
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  Speaker 22: about it if you're one nation. I have so many
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  Speaker 22: friends from all different walks of life. I'm talking people
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  Speaker 22: who are ASX top two hundred listed. You know, they're
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  Speaker 22: senior in those sorts of businesses. They're like I would
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  Speaker 22: call them ordinary Australians who are now unashamedly saying I
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  Speaker 22: am voting one nation and this is why. And as
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  Speaker 22: for the immigration piece, and as for this absolute dog
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  Speaker 22: whistle of racism that the labor left like to hurl
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  Speaker 22: at Pauline Hanson, it's not racist to say, in the
• 47:19
  Speaker 22: words of the great Man, we will decide who comes
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  Speaker 22: to this country and on wonder under what circumstances. And
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  Speaker 22: the other thing I'd add to what Caro said is
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  Speaker 22: migrant families like mine. I'm first generation Aussie, but I
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  Speaker 22: dare say that Baker that you interviewed, his family narrative
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  Speaker 22: would involve we came to Australia with nothing, but not
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  Speaker 22: only that, we were told where we would live, for
• 47:39
  Speaker 22: how long we would live in that community. That was
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  Speaker 22: a condition of coming here. We didn't have We didn't
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  Speaker 22: come with our hand out.
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  Speaker 3: We came to.
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  Speaker 22: Build and help and I tell you what. That is
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  Speaker 22: a powerful family narrative and you don't forget it. You
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  Speaker 22: look at this new generation of migrants and wherever they're from,
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  Speaker 22: and I'm sorry it's not the same necessarily and it's
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  Speaker 22: not racist to say being in Australia is the golden ticket.
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  Speaker 22: We need to raise the bar.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic insights. Thanks again for joining us, Jemma and Caroline
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  Speaker 2: and that documentary. The Fight for the Right is Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: fortnite Tomorrow fortnite Tuesday, the twenty fifth of August, right
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  Speaker 2: here on News twenty four at seven pm.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Don't miss it. Just a little bit of time.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Let's share some of your feedback from the ABC's belated
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: apology that we talked about to Gena Reinhart last week.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Dean says the ABC isn't sorry, They're only sorry because
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: they were forced to apologize, and Eric writes, defund the
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  Speaker 2: ABC by voting one nation. There you go, all roads
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  Speaker 2: lead at the moment back to the rise of One
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  Speaker 2: Nation of Pauline Hansen. More on that in two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Up next, Peter Creblin, I'll see you tomorrow