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25W: Why Everyone Should Have Mexican Friends + Michael Strahan on Growing Up in Germany & Flipping a 'Mean' Switch While Playing + The Biography of Rory McIlroy with Author Alan Shipnuck · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: a live because it's never a lot that. But looking
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  Speaker 1: I don't think even no, they start the first two days,
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're set like if you start early the first day,
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  Speaker 5: He hadn't started, and he's tied for first him and
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  Speaker 5: Sam Burns. Your guy, the guy you played with, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: my guy stand right. Didn't you play with Sam Burns?
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  Speaker 7: I did?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I was like, my guy, what event?
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  Speaker 1: What event was that I played in the celebrity pro
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  Speaker 1: am of the Saint.
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  Speaker 5: Jude Classic Cool cool cool?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, weren't you there?
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  Speaker 8: No?
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  Speaker 1: My other Mexican counterpart was there? Your brother jes Now
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  Speaker 1: either have three.
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  Speaker 5: Me, your brother in law and Steve. Don't miss the
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  Speaker 5: closest your other Mexican counterparts? What Mexican's with me more
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  Speaker 5: than anybody else?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, probably the most Mexican.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about DJ But because we don't do that,
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  Speaker 5: we don't say who's more Mexican.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying at least Mexican's mom's white. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know. We call him a hundred if he even
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  Speaker 1: considers himself Mexican.
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  Speaker 6: Honestly heard that. Let me what DJV Mexican really like?
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  Speaker 1: If you yeah, I'm facetiming him right now. Safy answers
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  Speaker 1: must be they have a series a Mississippi state. They're there, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're there. So I'll say this this about DJ. He
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  Speaker 1: I'm very close to DJ. He is the only person
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  Speaker 1: in my life that just calls me to talk. There's
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  Speaker 1: no reason he calls me and I'm like, oh, DJs
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  Speaker 1: calling on. Let me see what's on his mind? Hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: what's up? Nothing so for you, not.
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  Speaker 6: Like hey, I need advice, I need the anything.
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  Speaker 1: Really a talk calls check up.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, that's family, man, that's family right there.
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  Speaker 1: I've nobody does that to me for two reasons. One
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think that's done a lot anyway. Now
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  Speaker 1: people don't just show up at doors and knock and
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  Speaker 1: come in. I think that culture has changed. But also
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  Speaker 1: most people know how I am. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk on the phone to anybody. I don't mind DJ
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  Speaker 1: Collin interesting, Like he facetimes though all the time, and
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  Speaker 1: so he'll FaceTime and to be like what's up, Broby,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like nothing, what's up with you? Like nothing?
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  Speaker 1: And then we just figured out what to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: But what's the average conversation time?
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  Speaker 1: Twelve to fifteen minutes?
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  Speaker 3: That's wow, that's solid. That's a long time for you.
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoy him as a person. There are only
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  Speaker 1: a few people on Earth I enjoy as a person
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  Speaker 1: fully that I make time to person with. He's one
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  Speaker 1: of those people. He's just so I wish you would answer.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say this to his face. He's awesome, Like
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  Speaker 1: why would listen? You gotta let him know how much
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  Speaker 1: you appreciate I do. I know he knows I love him,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just like it just wouldn't come up to
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  Speaker 1: where it's like, hey man, I just think you're the best.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Do you have that relationship with him where it's like
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  Speaker 9: you talk crap to each other and that's how you know,
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  Speaker 9: like like brothers, how I love you? You know cause
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  Speaker 9: I have one friend like that too, where we talked
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  Speaker 9: probably once a week on the phone and it's like,
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  Speaker 9: you know, you just say something stupid or meandom and
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  Speaker 9: that's basically your way of saying like what's up, dude?
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  Speaker 1: You know him not really so much that way, we
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  Speaker 1: can for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He's also like a really good athlete where we get
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  Speaker 1: pissed off and we play golf because he's he played
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  Speaker 1: college baseball, so he's a really good athlete where a
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  Speaker 1: couple of places, and then I just get annoyed. And
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  Speaker 1: then we get way competitive, and then I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: know you're cheating. I know you're driving off to drop
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  Speaker 1: your ball.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been there for that.
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  Speaker 1: And then and who knows if he is he always
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  Speaker 1: drives off. But anyway, got triggered.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought you guys were over that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, here, if he uh calls, I will answer it.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know how we got started on that.
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  Speaker 1: My west of favorite Mexicans, I know, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how do we get this sort of my list of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite Mexicans.
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  Speaker 3: Caddy, I thought it was Eddy, but that's it.
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  Speaker 1: My other closeman, nice friend, but I think too, Like
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  Speaker 1: when I live in Texas, I was a minority in
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  Speaker 1: my friend group, I was the white guy. It was
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  Speaker 1: like all Mexicans and one black dude in me. And
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  Speaker 1: so I tried to get I tried to get a scholarship. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I tried to get a minority scholarship. It didn't work
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why that's what it was weird.
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  Speaker 5: When like he would like, hey man, do you want
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  Speaker 5: to come over and watch football like me? And my friends,
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  Speaker 5: and then like he would say, yeah, you feel like cooking,
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  Speaker 5: and then he would tell me one thing, and then
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  Speaker 5: he would tell another one of our friends, like, you
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  Speaker 5: feel like cooking tacos, and then you tell another friend, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: you feel like doing burgers. And by the time we
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  Speaker 5: got to his house on Sunday to watch football, we
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  Speaker 5: had all this food and he's the only one that
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  Speaker 5: didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 1: Except buy it.
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  Speaker 4: That's a lot harder.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of time I would buy it, but
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  Speaker 1: I would not just say do you feel like it.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey, they're going to cook this. And
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  Speaker 1: it's so competitive, even Steve, who we don't run with
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  Speaker 1: as much, but Steve's was definitely a best friend who's Mexican,
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  Speaker 1: and they would argue about who the best.
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  Speaker 3: Chef was, like on the grip constantly.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Is that a Mexican culture thing? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean because I don't have any white it could
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  Speaker 1: just be I don't have any white friends, because they
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  Speaker 1: could do that too.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't. We called it like just barbecuing, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not like just barbecuing. It's a whole it's a.
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  Speaker 5: Whole thing, you know, like putting meat on a grill
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  Speaker 5: outside with the charcoal and all that drinking beers.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's a culture.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, because you guys grew up doing that, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 9: because we grew up barbecuing and you know.
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  Speaker 4: Our culture. But it was like burgers and dogs.
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  Speaker 1: No, I tell you, Mexican's rock. Yeah, they do, thank you, man,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Maybe the best they do, I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you. But I started looking at like, at least
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  Speaker 1: in my life, I think Mexicans win, and they're loyal.
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  Speaker 9: Like I grew up in southern California Mexican friends and
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  Speaker 9: they're very loyal.
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  Speaker 6: And if you're loyal to them, man, they'll be loyal
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  Speaker 6: to you forever.
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  Speaker 5: This so weird here and you guys talking about I'm
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  Speaker 5: telling you, whites are so far down the list.
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  Speaker 1: They are.
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  Speaker 3: We're right here to them.
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  Speaker 1: Whites are so far down the list. Just kind of suck.
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  Speaker 3: We like you guys.
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  Speaker 1: You guys never have meetings and talk about us, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you rank the white guys like, you know, first
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  Speaker 1: and the white guy draft.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna take Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Man, you don't even know friendship. You gotta good Mexican, right,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that's right, I was speaking of food.
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  Speaker 1: We should go ahead, we should talk about the cow
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  Speaker 1: thing real quick because this has been on a couple
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  Speaker 1: of shows. But Eddie has been trying to get us
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  Speaker 1: to buy a cow. I opted out, you opted out
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  Speaker 1: or opped it in?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm in.
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: You're buying part of the cow.
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  Speaker 6: I've already bought part of the How.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: Much money did you spend? Three and so you already
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  Speaker 1: paid for it, and so you're gonna get a third
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  Speaker 1: of a quarter of the cow.
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  Speaker 7: Correct?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what happened? Did he did you show him the
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  Speaker 1: picture of the guy?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we all you know is me, Kevin and
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  Speaker 5: a buddy of Kevin's, and we all went in.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: I told you, nobody want to see the picture of
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: the cal They.
• 9:02
  Speaker 5: Venmoed me the money and I paid the farmer. So then,
• 9:05
  Speaker 5: like you know what, four or five days went by
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  Speaker 5: and the farmer said, hey, got your cow, send me.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: A picture of it.
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  Speaker 5: And honestly, I thought that was pretty cool, Like, hey,
• 9:14
  Speaker 5: you spent nine hundred dollars on a cow, you might
• 9:17
  Speaker 5: as well see what you bought, right, what'd you like
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  Speaker 5: to see if you bought a tractor?
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  Speaker 3: Wouldn't you want to see it?
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  Speaker 1: Tractors, not living.
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  Speaker 6: It's totally different.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, let's think.
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  Speaker 1: I saw I saw a picture of the cow, A
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  Speaker 1: pretty cute cow.
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  Speaker 4: He showed you.
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  Speaker 6: I know, I was like, dude, this couch.
• 9:32
  Speaker 5: Just want to see the business se But are you
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  Speaker 5: gonna now every time you just see a cow, you're
• 9:37
  Speaker 5: going to be like, I don't want to see that.
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: I don't want to see that.
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  Speaker 5: No, chances are you're gonna eat the cow that you
• 9:41
  Speaker 5: see anyway.
• 9:42
  Speaker 6: I know, but there's a difference than just knowing that.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: They say, like just eating, I say, going out to
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: the calforin and say it.
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: Open the gate. No, that's our money.
• 9:50
  Speaker 6: What are you doing, hey, I could be saving a life, dude.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Something else food related on Monday is what was it
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  Speaker 1: a brisket off?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Is it brisket or smoking brisket? Did I give you
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: guys enough money?
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  Speaker 7: Well?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I gave each of you seventy five
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  Speaker 1: dollars to go and prepare a brisket. You bought the meat.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: Do you have to buy like sauces and stuff like?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we don't want to give too much as
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  Speaker 5: far as what goes into a preparation of a brisket.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I think there should be
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  Speaker 1: two different rounds. Round one should be straight meat like no,
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  Speaker 1: no sauce. Round two should be with a sauce.
• 10:31
  Speaker 11: Okay, like you add the sauce or you you sauce
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  Speaker 11: sauce eating goes best with no?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't matter, but they should. There should be
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: an element of how I would normally eat it, because
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't just grab it and eat it straight. So
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  Speaker 1: I want to do round one straight meat. Round two
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  Speaker 1: meat with whatever sauce you deem to be the best
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: sauce to go with the kind of meat you cooked.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: I like that, okay, because I think I gave you
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: enough money to buy some sauce right.
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  Speaker 3: Well now now, I mean, now you're adding sauce. We're
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: kind of going over there.
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  Speaker 6: Depends a ton of sauce.
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  Speaker 3: You can get.
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  Speaker 1: You're keeping eighty percent that me.
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: Do you want sugar?
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: Fret?
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  Speaker 7: So?
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  Speaker 6: I bought you food for your family at least three days?
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: Good point? That is a good point. Are you gonna
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: homemade the sauce?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know yet, Okay, I haven't thought about it.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't share any details.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know fair question.
• 11:15
  Speaker 6: Might just go to a Mexican shop down the street
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  Speaker 6: and get a sauce.
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: Who knows, good luck with that?
• 11:19
  Speaker 5: You could have you bought your brisket. Not yet my mind.
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I handpicked it. It's perfect for people. Don't realize.
• 11:29
  Speaker 5: Half of the quality of your brisket, how it comes out,
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: is what it looks like before you cook it. People
• 11:33
  Speaker 5: don't realize that they do, so you better hand pick
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  Speaker 5: it correctly.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Have you seen the TikTok video or the guys with
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: his wife and she is picking out fruit. I'm going
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: to say, for the sake of this, it's peaches. It
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: could be any fruit. And he's standing beside her and
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: she hands him a peach, he puts in the bag,
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: She fills another one puts in the bag. He hands
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: her one. She's like, that's not good. So then he
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: starts to grab them from inside the bag because she's
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: already picked and handshom turrse. She goes, that's not good.
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: So anything he hands her, she's like, this is not
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: even if it's the one who's already.
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  Speaker 3: Picking put in the best terrible man.
• 12:02
  Speaker 9: Now, it's pretty funny, that's awesome, that's that sounds about.
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it does.
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: You know what I love about those videos is that,
• 12:09
  Speaker 5: like it makes you feel not alone. Like you watch
• 12:12
  Speaker 5: a video like that and you're like, wow, I'm not
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: the only one that that happens to. That's so that
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: makes me feel better about myself. I want to go
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: to fellow whitey Dylan, who's over there? Like you turn
• 12:20
  Speaker 5: your mic on. A lot of people are like, who
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: the heck is Dylan? Dylan's face has never gone on yet.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: We're not he is a lucidor basically yeah, speaking of Mexicans,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: he wears a mask.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: Nobody sees Dylan right now? Dylan as a fellow whitey.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Do you like brisket? Love brisket? Would you like to
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: be a part of eating the brisket on Monday whenever
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: they are telling like feeding us the brisket to see
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: who's a winner. I don't know what kind of personal
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: be if I said no, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and you're from Tennessee, Nor Georgia, North Georgia, Oh Georgia.
• 12:52
  Speaker 11: Okay, all right, so so he knows probably good brisket,
• 12:55
  Speaker 11: good barbecue, good brisket.
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 12:59
  Speaker 9: But in California, like we don't have You didn't get
• 13:02
  Speaker 9: raised like eating brisket. It was tacos or burritos, you know, like,
• 13:05
  Speaker 9: and then you come here like, well the barbecue here
• 13:07
  Speaker 9: is much better.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: That's interesting. What did what were you raised eating?
• 13:10
  Speaker 10: Like?
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, here you go. I set you up, I said.
• 13:13
  Speaker 7: You up?
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? What was I raised?
• 13:16
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: He said, like, you know in California where he was
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: born and raised, like, it was tacos and britos. Okay,
• 13:22
  Speaker 5: So in Arkansas an little mountain pine?
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: Oh were you pine?
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: If you were to say what did you eat? Mostly?
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Or are you asking like if we had barbecue, what
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: kind of barbecue was it?
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: I think I'm asking more like, what was the food
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: of your area? What did you guys specialize in making
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: in that area?
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: At first it was any food at all. I knew
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: it's not though, But if you said what kind of
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: food did you eat? Most two things come to mind.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Hamburger helper a manwich, because that's not what I'm not
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: making a joke, I know, I know.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: I thought he was poor.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: I get it, But it was if you could find
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: ground beef the cheapest, and hamburger helper or even and
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: the knockoff Hamburger helpers were so cheap that you could
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: make basically a meal from that and man which was
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: so cheap.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: Are you familiar the man with the can. Yeah? Yeah,
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: it was ground beef and then you put the can
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: in it.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no beef.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: It's like sloppy joke.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: It's just yeah, so good with white bread. Like that
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: was what I think of when I think of like
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: dinner as far as like barbecue.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Like did Arkansas Keith on a like a Friday.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Night, No, no, No, A lot of fish because we
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: would catch the fish. But barbecue, I guess there was
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: a Memphis influence, but it would be we would just
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: go to like Smokey Joe's or some barbecue place like
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: like pork Ribs. But I'm telling you, the only time
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I think we really ate barbecue as a kid was
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: if you know, the first Sunday of the month the
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: weather was good, after church, they people would bring food.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Do you have dinner on the grounds what they would
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: call it, and people would bring barbecue. I ated it there,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. It was from them, So I don't have
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: a good I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: it was. But when I got to Texas. All my
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: young adult I give University of Texas so much crap
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: because I hate them. But I love Austin and I
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: love Texas, and I think I am able to separate
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: the two. I think people know that like Austin a
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: plus city the greatest, Like I like it better than Nashville.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: And I say that as living in Nashville. The barbecue
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: culture there is pretty solid A plus. Yeah, it's it's
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: it's solid. Different kind of barbecue than Memphis barbecue. Yeah,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City barbecue event. And that's why I'm surprised
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: by Dylan and Georgia. Like Georgia barbecue. They just try
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: peaches like that was barbecue. Like Dad put him on
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the grill and put sauce on it. Here's barbecue.
• 15:37
  Speaker 11: So he's he's confused. It's me thought we were doing peaches.
• 15:42
  Speaker 11: You're right, it's a different barbecue.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think at my love for like barbecue
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: came from being in Texas. I'd like to say again,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: just for the record, I hate the University of Texas. Yes, yes,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I love Texas and Austin, but that University of Texas.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: That hate comes from me being in Arkansas kid and
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: then just pounding us and being richer than us and
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: being in the same conference as us for a long time.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm excited about Monday. The question is, Mike, and
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: this is going to be you, since you're the boss.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Do we do it here? Do we do we come
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: over here? Or do we just do it in our
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: studio because we can drive over here easily, there's more room.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: We could do it with cameras outside. It doesn't matter.
• 16:19
  Speaker 9: Do they need any prep time before I would be ready?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So they just want to do the building up there?
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: Okay?
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Then all right, so mondays of this show, we will
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: do the have you Dylan, you've been up to the
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: other building, right? What do you want to come up?
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: So is he part of like the final call too?
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: Or did just he's just so.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Here's what it's going to be. It's a great question.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: He's not part of the final call, but he is
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: a consultant. If I'm like a little torn on something,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I may have a little conversation with my fellow Whitey
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and be like, hey, what do you think? And you know,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: also if he just wants to eat brisket, it should
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: come up. But we cannot show us face. The new
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: thing about Dylan is no one can know what he
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: looks like. And if he does get all, we have
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to get him a mask.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, I literally do him.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: That's a Spider Man mask.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Can I so something that I've been I'm not going
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: to do it because I just don't have the energy
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: your time now that I have a baby. Something that
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I was toying with in my head was being a
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: masked stand up comedian in town, never saying who I was,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: go to open mic stuff and all, and then do
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: actually open mic because I can't be like, I don't
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm gonna do my own show. No one's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: gonna know who I am and be a masked comedian
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the whole time and see if if I'm even any
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: good and like and like do Zaines and like try
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: to but never never reveal it's me because I can
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: sell tickets because people think I'm somewhat funny from doing
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: this and I got to be c plus to be
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: minus comedian through just doing years and years of being
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: on the road. But if I just do it in
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: a mask and it's not specifically about things that I'm
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: talking about me, like wouldn't that be fun and funny?
• 17:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And also if I bomb and I suck, who cares
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I'm in a mask? Yeah?
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Do you think you being on the radio and podcast
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: and all that, people would recognize your voice?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I think there's a chance. However, I don't speak in
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a cadence. And we talked about this on another show.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: It's hard to do an impression to me because nothing
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I do, speaking wise, is so dynamic that you can
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: easily replicate it or do an impression to go that's
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: for sure him. So yes, maybe, But I think if
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I were in a mask, Mike, what do you think
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: about that idea?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That'd be crazy, huh.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: I do think people would figure it out after a while, though,
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: I'm hearing you.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Speak after a while. Yes, unless I unless I went
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: up and I couldn't do a fake Elizabeth Holmes it, Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: if you.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: Just go full blue and dot like stuff, you would.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Never do yeah, or like a voice changer.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I've really spent some time,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: funny thinking about doing. I don't think I have another
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: thing that I think I am going to do that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want to stay here because I like that stuff.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Like I like risk, like I like it's not the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: same as like a danger of a police officer. It's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: not so I don't want people to get them the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: balls about it. That's not real danger. But I like that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I like danger.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I like going up and trying stuff that's way different.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: You remember we talked about you and I doing like
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: go up to these like we'd play shows, but we're
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: got dead serious and try to sing like Whitney Houston,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I Will Always Love You well sort of.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So so my idea was we open for people where
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: they don't know who we are where, but the person
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that the people do that would be on the joke.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: We have to tell them. So let's say somebody come
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to comes to town like Amossley, who I'm a massive
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: fan of, but he's also represented by my same agency,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and if he had a sense of humor, my eight,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: not agency, my my management, my manager'd be like, Hey,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: these two guys, they want to do seven minutes, and
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: they're going to go up and they're going to open
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: for the open areas and we and we we were
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: just going to go and sing as hard as the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: hardest songs possible a cappella and not stop and no,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and people wouldn't know. We wouldn't even do it in town.
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: We we go like Atlanta, Okay, like some small town
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: maybe Atlanta.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: We put on like some face. We don't go full
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: mask there. And we're in there and we're trying adele songs,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: but we're not cracking for any reason. We do like
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: three full songs and all we're doing is recording us
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: in the audience, and then that's the performance.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Hilarious.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Dude, You think you'd be able to hold it?
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you just like this isn't a joke.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: That uncomfortableness.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: I think you could for sure.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: But Eddie, I mean take that good.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: And that's not a dis because I don't know. If
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: if I heard.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: You singing like that, dude, I'd be dying.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: That's like the guys on Saturday Night Live that can't
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: hold it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, want to?
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's the kind of stuff like I think about
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: when I'm going what's my next thing? It's always really
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: outrageous stuff that I end up not doing. But I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: do have something now that I do. I don't have
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the time right the second that I do feel like
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I can do and I think people will come and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: it'll be fine. But I've never seen done before. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: won't rebuild that here. I think my days is being
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: just a touring stand up are over. I did a
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: special got bought by Sam t It's fun. I still
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: have those elements and only did that so I could
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: train myself good enough that if I ever got to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: call the host and award show, it'd be totally comfortable
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: for me because I'd been doing stand up forever. Uh So,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I think I'm okay there. I got a little something
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: else in the tail pipe. I hope to be there
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: The tail pipe, it's all just me.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Eating people's brisket is the start of it. Welcome Boston.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Everybody's prepared brisket. Let's is the best.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: And Dylan's your partner.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: This is this masked white guy here. Okay, so that's
• 21:40
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• 21:41
  Speaker 3: NA have wes?
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• 23:24
  Speaker 1: All right, we're now going to go over to Alan Chipnuk,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: one of the most influential voices in golf journalism. He's
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the author of the brand new biography Rory, The Heartache
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and Triumph of Golf's most Human Superstar that came out
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: this week over thirty years covering the sport, and the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: new book drops right as Rory returns to Augusta to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: defend his master's title, and you can follow Alan on
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: social media at Alan Chipnuk, Alan big, thanks for coming on.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: What I want to say first is I saw Rory
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: talking about the food and they were like, hey, why
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: didn't you know, do more Irish food and he said, well,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: because I want to enjoy the food too. So is
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Rory funny?
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Reasonably funny?
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: Yes, that was a good line, and of course a
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: few people over in Ireland I've detected on Twitter, were offended.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: But as we say in this in our business, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: the truth is my shield, and I think Rory's Ry's.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Banged on there.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: So but It is interesting because he's he's this blue
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: collar kid from this you know, scrappy little suburb of Belfast,
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: and it shows how far he's traveled in life.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: The Fancy Wines the foy.
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: Gras likes a little bit of an iroll like come
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: on Rory, like like, don't forget, don't forget your roots.
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: But at the same time, if you've been to Ireland,
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: you know what he's talking about.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Is Rory well liked, oh very much.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: So everywhere he goes, he's a crowd favorite.
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: He just had There's something about him that that draws
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: people in. He obviously plays a game with a certain flare,
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: but I think it's more about he wears his heart
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: on his sleeve. He's incredibly just open for such a
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: superstar athlete. I mean, there's a humanity there that is
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: that is very rare. So people are drawn to him.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: And including his colleagues.
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: Like he makes a point of when when some rookie wins,
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: you know, a B list tour event, Rory finds him
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: and congratulates him, and he said, you know that that's
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: important to him. He feels like, you know, he was
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: when he was coming up. Some of the old timers
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: did that to him and how much it meant to him.
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: He wants to carry on those little traditions and so
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: he just carries himself with a certain grace and a
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: certain ease.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: That is quite endearing. So, yeah, he's very popular now.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: He has reshaped the professional golf and how much affection
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: he has among his peers depends a little bit about
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: where they are on the money list, if you know.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: As as Rory's had this vision of a.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: More exclusive tour, smaller fields, more money, fewer events, a
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: few guys are getting left out of that, so they
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: may not have as much affection for Rory. But the
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: top players, he's put a hell of a lot of
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: money in their pocket and they love the guy for that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: What about when it was Rory versus basically live? Was
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: that very much wrestling on the outside and you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: just so we would see it and so the pulp
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: or was that also internally tough?
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: It was a very messy, chaotic situation he but Rory's
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: always had a strong moral compass.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: Even three years where I lived, golf launched. There's something
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: called the the Saudi International. It was a European tour
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: event and and he was, you know, offered ungodly amounts
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: of money to play there as an appearance fee, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: he said no, that you know, he wanted to be
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: on the right side of history and that there's a
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: morally to this because this is only a few months
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: after Jamal Kashogi had been assassinated by the Kingdom of
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: Saudi Arabia, and so Rory didn't want their money and
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: he was very clear about that and he really never wavered.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, his quote was, I want to
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: be on the right side of history. You know, he
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: revers Jack Nicholas and Arnold Palmer, and part of their
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: legacy is that they they create did the modern PGA
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: Tour by by breaking away from the pg of America,
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: which was this a little parochial organization. And you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: Rory knows that history and he wanted to be remember
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: as the guy who helped.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Save the PGA Tour and he did and so you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: his wish was granted. He is on the right side
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: of history.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: So yeah, it was it was very sincere and very
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: from the heart this battle that he fought to try
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: and to try and represent.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: The PGA Tour in a lot of ways. Represent the
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: game of golf.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: How big was that win last year at the Masters
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: for Rory.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I mean monumental.
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: It transcended sport because he had been on this lifelong quest,
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: you know, to fulfill his destiny as this prodigy, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: he'd won everything else and he'd come to the Masters
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: year after year and failed.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: And he you know, he'd had.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: A famously out a four stroke lead in two thousand
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: and eleven going to the back nine, he blew up
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: and that's that, you know, Augustin Nashal became this house of.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Horrors for Rory, and so the outpouring of emotion around
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: that win.
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: It was not because he became the sixth man to
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: win the career Grand Slam. I mean, that's cool, it
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: has meaning in the context of the history of the sport,
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: But it was really the human element because you could
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: see the angels and the demons on his shoulder that
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: whole round, and he was playing the best golf.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Of his life. He had the low score in.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: The tournament on Friday and Saturday, he was in total
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: control of his golf ball, and on Sunday he had
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: some of the worst shots and Masters history. It was
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: completely metaphysical and to watch him grapple with the weight
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: of history and what this meant to hit his legacy
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: and what it meant to him personally.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was riveting.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: It was the entire human condition on display in one
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: round of golf. And that's why people were crying on
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: their couches, and that's why it took over the sports
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: world because it was just the drama was so internal.
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: He was fighting this battle with himself and had nothing
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: to do with the golf course or the other players
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: in the field.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: And I mean it was riveting.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You feel like that was more of a relief than
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: for him than it was initially than it was like
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: this monumental quest that it's finally been fulfilled.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: It was all of it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: I mean, he said it was more relief than joy,
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: and that sort of that visceral outpouring that he had
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: on the last green and then that unforgettable walk, you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: from the green to the scoring area, which is about
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: one hundred.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: And fifty yards and you could see, you know, his
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: face is like a movie.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: Screen, just playing out his lifetime of heartache and yearning
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: and disappointment and disillusionment, and then finally, you.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Know, just Catharsis. So it was, Yeah, it was. It
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: was a huge relief.
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: I think the joy has come after the fact, like
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: he's loved being the Master's champion, like he's been swanning
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: around this week in his green jacket and making all
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: the rounds, and like the joy came later.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I think initially it was all relieved.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Do you notice guys tightening up as the actual event
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: gets closer to starting.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I definitely.
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: I mean Johnny Miller, who is one of the greatest
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: players in golf not to win the Masters.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I mean he said he started choking, like driving down
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Magnolia Lane's It's just it's the crown jewel of the sport.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: It's what every player wants say. I'll grow up watching
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: this tournament.
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: And it's such a mental battle. Just go out there
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: and play golf and just treat it like any other place.
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, Rory said the first time he came here
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: he was afraid to take a divot out of the
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: fairway because it's like such sacred earth, you.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Know, And so yeah, that is half the battle, is.
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: Just trying to be loose, trying to forget about where
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: you are, just hit golf shots.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Some guys are better at it than others.
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: But yeah, there's a very high choke factor around the
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: Masters because of all that comes with it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: If you're playing really well leading up to it, especially
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: other tournaments, a lot of times we can dictate, well,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: he's been playing great, he's probably gonna play great here.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's not always the case with the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Masters because exactly what you were talking about.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Would you agree with that, yes?
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: And then then there's the unique playability factors at Augusta National.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: I mean, they are the scariest greens in championship golf.
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: So you take a guy like Cam Young, who who
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: won the Players Championship last month, you know, one of
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: the biggest tournaments on tour that is a he won
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: that tournament t degree and his ball striking was so
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: overwhelming that he had okay'd a pretty good week of putting.
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: But you know, he's not a great putter, So this
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: is not the ideal venue for him because it really
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: exposes your weaknesses. Same with the greens have all these
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: little quadrants and you have to be so precise, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: the penalty for a miss is so high.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: So again, controlling.
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: Your distances with your iron is so paramount here more
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: than anywhere else. And so and then you know, chipping
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: around the greens, the grass is so short, the lies
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: are so tight, like it has to be a perfect
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: strike every time. So there is the emotional component, but
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: it's also this golf course and this setup puts certain
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: stresses on your game that don't really exist week to week,
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: and it will reveal your weaknesses without a doubt. So
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: it's a it's a very interesting and sort of thrilling
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: combination of the emotional and the physical demands that places
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: on the players.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Superstition in sports a big deal. And you know, I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: have friends that play baseball and they're like, man if
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I thaw a perfect session in the bullpen before a game,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: it usually ain't gonna go very well. If you're playing
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: practice rounds. Does this translated all to AUGUSTA Like, if
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: you're just crushing practice rounds, is that a bad sign?
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's ever a bad sign. But it's
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: not a straight line correlation, that is for sure. And also,
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: this this week is gonna be a It's gonna be
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: a great Master's because there's no rain forecasts and there's
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: such a scade togronomy. They have these giant like basically
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: suction machines beneath the greens. They can dry them out overnight,
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: making them much firmer, faster, more demanding. They can drain
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: moisture at them if there is a little bit of rain,
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: they can change the greens so fast here that a
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: lot of players feel like from Monday, you know, kind
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: of the first practice round day to Thursday, the first
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: competitive round, that it's like a different golf course in
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: some ways, it just keeps getting.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Harder and harder and harder.
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: So I think it's always good to hit hit the
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: ball well and gain some confidence, but it's here more
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: than most places, it doesn't mean that much when when
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: the bell rings on Thursday morning, the demands get get tougher,
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: the questions that the course is asking get more complicated,
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: and it's a different.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Kind of challenge all and this is Eddie and my
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: co host.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Hey, Alan, I got a question.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Bobby was telling me that that at the Masters. I've
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: never but he was telling me that at the Masters
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: they take your phones away. You can't use them, or
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: you just can't take them out, or you get kicked out.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: And I'm wondering does that create a more peaceful environment
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: with the crowd, because and speaking of Rory, I think
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: Rory's kind of had a history of snapping back at
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: the crowd because they yell at him, you know, being
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: a four not being from the US. So does that
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: kind of create a peaceful environment at the Masters?
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so I used to rage again some machine.
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: You know, the first X number of years, I was
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: so frustrated I couldn't have my phone because I couldn't
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: communicate with my editors and my fellow writers. I couldn't
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: communicate with my readers on you know, through tweets, which
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: is a big part of tournament weeks now, and I
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: was just bitter about.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: The whole thing. And now I love it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: It's literally the only place on planet Earth where you
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: can just get away from your phone for eight or
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: ten or twelve hours and just just soak in all
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: the beautiful nature, lose yourself in the tournament, actually talk
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: to other human beings because they're they don't have their
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: phone either. You can actually engage. There's eye contact, like
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: what a concept. So it's it's unique to this event,
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: and it also makes people more present because, like you know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: you go to tournaments and everyone's got their phone out
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: trying to capture some crappy, little grainy video, like, bro,
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: this looks better on TV anyway, No one cares you
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: got a video of this, But people are so obsessed
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: with that.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: And in this.
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: Case, when you take the phone away, they just get
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: into the golf. They're they're paying closer attention to what's
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: actually happening. They're they're they're having more fun with the
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: people around them.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: So I've become a convert.
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: It's actually a blessing and a relief to just go
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: out there and lose yourself in in a in in
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: a great competition. But it's not replicable probably anywhere else
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: on the planet. But they somehow because they have unlimited
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: resources and because everyone's afraid, they're so vindictive.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: If you break a rule, you're out forever, and so
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: somehow it works here.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Did you become more or less of a fan of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Rory after writing this book?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: I mean, I tried to be a dispassionate observer. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: would never describe myself as a fan. But you are human,
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: you know, and you do have emotions, and I would
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: say that of course, I knew the broad strokes of
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: his life and his journey, and when you get into
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: the details of it, it's really remarkable how far he's traveled.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: And I have a lot of admiration for Roora. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: think he's.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: Conducted himself with a tremendous amount of grace growing up
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: in the spotlight. I mean, you look at the three
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: biggest golfers the last thirty plus years, Tiger, Bill, Michelson,
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: and Rory, and two of them have had their lives
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: totally derailed by scandal.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: By addiction, by vice, by greed.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: And everywhere where he goes he's universally beloved and accepted,
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: and he's welcomed and he's just carried himself. He just
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: moves through the world with an ease that's really refreshing
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: for a top athlete. And he's never really.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Forgotten his roots.
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: You know, his parents travel and he talks about his
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: parents all the time their influence on him. His closest
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: friends are the kids he grew up with in this
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: little town outside of Belfast. And you know, he has
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: the jet and the mansions and the cars, but deep
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: down he's sort of the same person. And I find
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: that very impressive and admirable. So I would say my
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: esteem for Rory definitely went up throughout this whole project.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: How about Phil when you wrote that book, How did
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the esteem go with that Phil book?
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: Well, the big difference is that the Phil is a
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: maniac and Rory is not. But I mean, when I
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: do these biographies, I don't feel like it's my duty
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: to legislate to people how they should feel about the athlete.
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: I just want to capture the totality of them as
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: a person, as a player, and so you know, in
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: the philm book, I was very happy to celebrate his philanthropy,
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: all his random acts of kindness to fans and others,
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: his mentorship of young players, and he's done a lot
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: of great things in life. There's also been a tremendous
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: amount of messiness and.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: It's all in the book. And the reaction was interesting.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: A lot of people read the book and said, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: actually liked Phil Moore because.
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: He's more human to me. I can see he's flawed,
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: but I appreciate him. And he also lost plenty.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Of fans who read in the book.
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: You know, the way he treats Caddy, the scale of
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: his gambling debts, and so it was kind of split
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: down the middle, which told me I might have done
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: a good job as a biographer just presenting this very
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: complex person. You know, Rory does not have Phil's demons,
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: but it's the same mandate is just to capture.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Who they are and let readers.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Kind of, you know, decide how they feel about him.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: And so, you know, Rory's had his controversies and his
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: business life and his love life, and they're all in
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: the book because I have to be. But ultimately, I
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: think it's it's a kind of a feel good story
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: because it has a happy ending with the masters and
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: with some.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Of this stuff off the golf course for him.
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: And we've been on this journey with Rory and he's
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: he's taken it on the chin many times. You know, he's,
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: you know, sort of like Phil, He's going to be
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: defined by his losses as much as by his victories,
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: and and through it all, he's he's he's he's had
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: a certain grace about it, and he's never stopped coming
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: back and and so yeah, it's I think it's a
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: feel good book, even while it's clear eyed about some
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: of his you know, laws and and Floyable's the book.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: It's called Rory, The Heartache and Triumph of Golf's Most
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Human Superstar just came out, and Alan, thank you so
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: much for your time. I hope book sells like a
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: billion copies and I hope you have a great time
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: out of it. I'm assuming you're in Augusta now.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: I'm in Augusta.
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm back across the street from Augusta National in
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: this corporate hospitality tent. Because you can't have your phone,
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: You're You're kind of trapped in the media center. They
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: don't really have places for podcasters and stuff. So I'm
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: here eating free food and drink, but right across the street,
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: so I'll get there eventually.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I hope everybody checks out the book. Alan, thank you
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: so much, and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks guys, I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: A quick thing on the Mike Vrabel and Diana Rossini,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and I like them both. Rascini has been on the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: show a couple of times. She's awesome. Everybody here I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: know the loves Rabel loves him.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: You ever met Rabel?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I got invited up like golf with them once. I
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: didn't go that. I think that would have been the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: only time. I don't think I ever met him in passing.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Have you, Kevin?
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: No?
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: I wish I would have thought you would have, just
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: because he was in Nashville.
• 42:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: The problem is I don't do anything. Generally speaking, I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: do nothing.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: You make a good book, like I work.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: And if it's work, I go for work. I don't
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: just a pee. I know, I don't really want to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: go hang out with new people. It's not that I
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: don't like people, but man, that's a lot of work effort.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: So I got invited to the to play golf with
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Rabel once, and I didn't go because I didn't know
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the other two people either.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Were they coaches or anything. Now, remember just regular people.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: They're regular people. And one of them I have met
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: a couple of times through like's like work, and they're like, hey,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: why don't you come play golf. It's Detta and Mike Vrabel.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: And then I was just like, man, I don't know anybody.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: And it's not that I don't want to hang out
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: with people. I get nervous if I'm playing. I don't
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: know how good a golfers they are. Yeah, if they're
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: all really good golfers and I go out there as
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a twelve handicap and I'm okay, But especially I haven't played,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: like right now, probably a hundred. I gotta play in
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: this stupid turnach this thing. In three weeks, I've not
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: touched a golf club, and I'm nervous not to play
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: golf because I'm gonna be with good people. You don't
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: like to be that embarrassing player. That's embarrassing to me.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to be embarrassed at this point
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: in my life, because again, I don't mind uncomfortable. Inness
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed if I'm on the tea box with good
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: players and I hit in the shanky right in the woods.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: Is it anything athletically or just golf specifically.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: You think it's mostly golf because that you just never know.
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's literally shot in the shot, Yeah, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: anything athletically.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like I can kind of keep up, So
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Diana vers Any, I like Rabel. I know people that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: know them and they really like them. So it's weird
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: to talk about two people.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: You kind of like.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: The interlocking the fingers. Because I looked at pictures again
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: last night and this is days in and I.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Saw the studied them.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I saw the people they had shopped at like
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: four different outlets for you, and they were like, hey, TMZ,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: do you want to buy it? TMZ didn't really, And
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: my only point with bringing it up again is there
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: are a lot of people online, even with blue check marks,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: that have semi credentialed sports history, that are assuming now
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: that somebody had hired a PI to go and get
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: these pictures. Really, because how else because that picture of
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: them from far away with the mountains, you know, the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: one that's yeah, how else are you randomly going to
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: get that unless you're there waiting for.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: That, And that's a that's not like a phone camera,
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: I don't think, right.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: And it's so zoomed in, so zoomed in.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I phone kind of rocks though.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Now, to be honest, so what do you think about
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: like who hires a PI liked?
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know that, but if you're asking me, and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I would have never thought this. I just see a
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: lot of that online that it was so out there,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: which is why they probably went there that you're not
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: just going to. And also, if you're not a sports fan,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: you don't know who Mike Vrabel and Diana Russini correct, correct,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: they ain't Bieber. Yes, they're not even Steph Curry, who
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: is in sports and crosses over a bit.
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: The only thing that makes him saying no, he's big.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: No.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: But even then, you wouldn't look at those two and
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: think like, oh, yeah, that's exactly I know exactly who
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: that is.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I agreed, Unless you're a sports fan.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Do you think do you think they were just getting it?
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: I will say it doesn't. I will say it doesn't
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: look good.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: What do you if you had to bet money on
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: here's one hundred bucks, do you think they're making it on? Yes?
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: You yeah?
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: I was, Yeah, And I'm not judging. I'm just taking
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: my money and betting it to make sure, that does
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: it all?
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Well, and then you know they're hanging by.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: The pool and they were just those two and they
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: keep saying that all these friends were with them. I've
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: not seen any pictures of any friends.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: That's what I was thinking too.
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: I was like, if you have friends, your friends need
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: to come out right now and post all the pictures.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Also, I don't care, meaning if they're cheating in their
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: families or hurt, that sucks for their families. I ain't judging.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Who knows. They could have had arrangements. Hey, honey, I
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: get to bang Rable once a year, right, Yes, you
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: know Bill Gates has that, had that with his ex wife.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: He got the way where his old girlfriend once.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: A year early.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that wild wild. So I'm not going to judge
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: anybody for any action if no kids or animals are
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: being hurt, and if they're generally not hurt. But I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: don't like, I'm not like awful people. But yeah, they're
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: probably doing it right.
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: I would.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: I was thinking how I could defend it to They weren't.
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: But I'm like, is there a game that you play
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: were you interlocked fingers?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Like? Great?
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Was it?
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: So?
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Red Rover would just.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Going to run or they're doing that like when you
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: live practicing for something like that.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: No, you hold your hands up and the people come
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: through the starting line.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: Yes, Yang, because wasn't there an event like down the
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: road or something?
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: They were here? Yeah, Eddie, who thinks they were getting
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: ready for the pro day?
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: So maybe yeah, that's what the players come out.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, not good man, but man, I hope he wins
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: a bunch of games this year.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: That's your coach.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: That's my coach, dude.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: That's like when you ask me about Dac. I'm just like, Man,
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: it's not good, but hey, still love the guys, my quarterback.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I did an interview with Michael Strahan and
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: it was fantastic and I hope you heard it on
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast and we really didn't talk about it
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: here on Sports. But if you did miss it, I'm
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: not playing the whole thing, but I do want to
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: play like ten minutes of the conversation with him when
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: we talked about like his wild sports journey and so
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Michael Strahan Hall of Famer. Mostly if you missed it,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: you can go hear us talk about him going to space,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: him doing Michael and Kelly and good morning America. And
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: do we ever get the suits from him? They ever
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: follow up?
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: No, what's he saying? He's sending you suits? Yeah, he's
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: lineup bell.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Should we follow up?
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Should we?
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: I have some of his dress shirts, said about a
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: few years ago.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: They're awesome.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to follow up.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Give me your measurements. Just send it over. Yes, do it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: He says he's gonna send me a couple of suits
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: from a suit line. Oh nice, I never followed up.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I should just to see if they send me the suits.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point. I should just send over
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: my measurement. Good point him. He made it. He said,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: just send over your measures, don't ask like, Hey, was
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: he serious about this? Hey? Mike said he's gonna send
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: over some suits. Here are the measurements. How need you
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: guys to measure me?
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Get the tape?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: All right? Here is Michael Straighthan. You're a big dude,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: but you're a very warm guy. You feel like you've
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: always been that way towards people.
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, I've always felt like
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: people are important. I was always growing up as a kid,
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: was kind of had those jobs that you weren't the
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: scene person in when you're cutting the grass or you're
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: moving furniture and people just don't see you. You're kind
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: of just there. So for me, it's always about being
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: warm and making people feel seen so and I like people,
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: so yeah, I always I feel like I'm that guy
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: except for the football field. Outside of that, I'm actually
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: pretty nice.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Was that a switch?
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Oh yeah. You gotta have a switch. You
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: have to be able. It's weird. When I was a
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: kid kid, being like twenty one in the first year
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: in the league, you have to. You think for years,
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: like I got to be mad at that guy. I
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: gotta be mad. He said something about my mama, like
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: you're creating all these scenarios in your head. But as
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: I got older, it was, hey, we can have the
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: conversation right now. Like I say, hold on, Bobby, put
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: my helmet on, run out there, look at the guy,
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: smile at him, beat him up a little bit, come back,
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: put the helmet down, and continue the conversation. It was
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: more about learning how to control your aggression and how
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: to control your focus, and it took me some years
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: to do it, but it made the game easier, made
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: it more relaxed, made it more fun, less stressful. So yeah,
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: I definitely felt like you have to have a switch.
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: If you don't, you'll burn yourself out quickly.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I know. He spent time going up in Germany. I'd
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: never been until recently, and I stopped in Munich and
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I got a hot dog, and I really put I
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on that hot dog being
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: good just because you got a broathw was I got it? Yes,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and so at high, hopes high, and I got and
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it met every expectation that I could have ever had. Yes,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: And I talk about it to know if anybody's like
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: you ever been to Germany, I'm like, not only have
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I been to Germany, let.
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: Me tell you about this hot dog at a street fair.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It was abroad. It was definitely a broade. So what
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: ages were you there?
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: I was. We moved in Germany and when I was nine,
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: and then I came back to the States for half
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: of my senior year to play football and lived with
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: my uncle in Houston for five months, got one football
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: scholarship the Texas Southern, got back on the plane in
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: December for Christmas, and flew back to Germany and graduated
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: high school.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: There.
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: So I was there from nine till seventeen, eighteen years old.
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: My parents stayed until I was twenty seven. I was
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: in the NFL for a six seven years before my
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: parents moved back, so I would still go back. I
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: go see my family. Obviously, I felt when I first
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: came back here for high school. For that half of
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: my senior year, I felt more a German and European
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: than I felt American. That was home, and yeah, it
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: was definitely a culture shock to come back to the States.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Did you only play American football then for one year?
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: I played one year in high school. Yeah, I had
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: no idea what I was doing. Man, I was just
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: like running around getting the guy with the ball, just whoever.
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: I had no idea. I knew no technique. I watched
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: the game on TV. You know, you just tackle the
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: guy with the ball. So if I could do that,
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: I got one scholarship and then from there I figured
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: it out and I learned. You know, I've really learned
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: a lot about how to do it. I watched TV, man,
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: I would watch NFL games on Sunday. Even when I
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: was in college, I'd watch NFL games on Sunday. And
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: I'm just watching a guy and what he's doing and
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: how he's successful at different things. And I remember reading
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: in those there's something and the magazine that needs to
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: have the players their size, their weight, all these things,
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: and I remember going, I need to be sixty five
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: to fifty. I need to be six five two fifty.
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: And my brothers aren't big guys, really, And I ended
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: up being like six' five at times in my, career
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: a little bit over to fifty other big. Bone but
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: but by the end but by by by the end
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: of the, DAY i ended up being what always the
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: MAGIC i needed to be in order to be successful
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: in THE. Nfl it's.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: CRAZY i think it's been pretty amazing to watch the
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: new professional identity you've. Created BUT i, do AND i
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: work for THE, nfl AND i work With Matt, castle
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: who was a, quarterback and we talked a lot about
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: athletes who when they leave they kind of have to
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: figure out who they are because all they've ever done
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: is be that was that you know mentally for?
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: You was that a?
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Struggle?
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: ABSOLUTELY i KNEW i had a job With fox WHEN i,
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: RETIRED i, mean that was that was. Done i'd already
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: had a deal that sign and put in the drawer
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: and the first year of that deal went by AND
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: i STILL i went back to The. Giants it wasn't
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: about having a. Job it was about having a you,
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: know being. Comfortable and my first year At, fox first three,
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: WEEKS i was THINKING i should have gone back to play.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Football THIS tv stuff is not for.
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: Me it's. Hard it's a lot harder than it. Looks
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: but ONCE i got it, DOWN i love. It but,
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: yeah football was just it's something we've done on our
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: whole lives and how do you transition out of? That
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: and you walk into a room and you feel like
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: that's all everybody sees as a football. Player they don't
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: see the human being and they don't see someone who
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: has the other, interests someone who is more rounded than
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: what they expected an athlete to. Be, so, yeah that
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: was a big adjustment for. Me even THOUGH i KNEW
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: i had a, job it still was.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Tough did you feel like when you would go into
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a room that you would try to prove you were
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: more of what you actually, were but try to be
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: more of that so people would take you as that
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: instead of just an.
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: ATHLETE i think at some POINT i probably, probably BUT
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: i REMEMBER i was talking to a movie, guy movie,
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: producer AND i remember saying to, Him, yeah you, KNOW
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: i feel LIKE i go into these things BECAUSE i
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: THOUGHT i wanted to be an actur at that. Point
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: So i'm, like, YEAH i go to these auditions AND
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: i feel LIKE i walk in and they just go
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: here the football. Player and he, said people will see
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: you as you see. Yourself and he said, that and
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: it kind of, Like, OKAY i got to take myself
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: out of just that football player of. Mentality and ONCE
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: i did, that it's like a lot of different things
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: started to. HAPPEN i think people did see me in
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: a different. LIGHT i think being just taking advantage of,
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: opportunities and by THAT i mean getting over the fear of,
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: failure to, fail your fear of being in front of
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: a group of people and something not working, out just
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: saying yes to something just for the experience of. It
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: and see where that. Led AND i look back now
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: And i'm so grateful THAT i kind of got over
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: the fear of the, failure the fear of feeling like
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: you're you're you're gonna look stupid if you do, something
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: and just get rid of all that. Stuff drop your
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: ego at the door and go to. Work and that's
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: WHAT i did and it's worked.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: OUT i want to ask about the coach vic experience
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: as a kid growing up Love Michael Vicker Virginia, tech
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: like he was that. DUDE i read the, commercials The
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Mike Vick experienced commercial on the roller, coaster you, know
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: so the rise Of Mike vick and then you know
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: when he went to prison and he's back At So
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: i've just kind of Seen Mike vick the roller coaster
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Of Mike. Vick AND i wonder, now BECAUSE i don't
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: know him and he's coaching, now, like what did you
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: take away From Mike vick as an adult and as
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: a coach and as a leader of.
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: Men, well one THING i will say about mikeah That
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: i've Known mike a long time AND i have so
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: much respect for him because he realized what got him
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: in trouble back in the day and the way that
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: he was living his life back in the, day that
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: that was the wrong way to live his. Life and
• 56:01
  Speaker 7: here's the guy who grew up in a certain, way
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: doing certain things that seemed normal for the community that
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: he came, from but they weren't and they weren't, Right
• 56:09
  Speaker 7: so he paid his, debt he went to, prison came
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: out of, prison got back on the football, field but
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: also had a lot of you, know he owed a
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: lot of money to a lot of, people but he
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: didn't found bankruptc and rip everybody. Off he paid people.
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: Back SO i look At mike AND i Think mike
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: has a lot of. HONOR i think as a, COACH
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: i don't know if there's any other PLAYER i would,
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: LISTEN i would be. Amazed BUT i look At mike
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: AND i look At. DION i, mean these guys some
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: of the goats of what they, did and they both
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: are the guys who were signature like they're so incredible
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: at the, time they're one of the few football players
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: at the top with their own, shoes with their own
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: apparel line Through, Nike like we didn't get that as football.
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: Players that's how exceptional these two. Were AND i Love
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: mike as a coach BECAUSE i think he's had some
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: life experiences that other, kids these kids need to. Hear
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: the kids need to experience someone who's been on, top
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: who's been on the, bottom who's making the way. Back
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: AND i think as a, coach it is so, much
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: probably more than he thought it was going to. Be
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: it's a lot to bite. Off it's a lot of,
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: work there's a lot of time away from your. Family
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: they're the REASON i got INTO tv BECAUSE i wouldn't
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: want to be a. Coach SO i think that might
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: give a great example of. RESILIENCE i think he's a
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: great example paying your debt to society and getting back
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: on your. Feet AND i hopefully he can Turn Norfolk
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: state back around because last year with a rough. Year
• 57:33
  Speaker 7: BUT i think he's also learning along with these kids
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: as a, coach AND i think they're learning from him as.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Men do you think you could have played another?
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: Year?
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: Absolutely?
• 57:44
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah why DIDN'T i SAY i walked off to, Field,
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: BOBBY i didn't Let?
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Okay why and we won a Super? Bowl?
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: MAN i had fifteen. YEARS i did EVERYTHING i wanted to.
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: Do there was nothing left to. Do what Was i'd
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: won every, Awards i've done all the individual, stuff and
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: after so many years of, that you kind of, go
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: this is not really. Fulfilling the only THING i hadn't
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: done was one Of Super. Bowl so once that, happened it's,
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: like why AM i sticking around for the money to
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: blow my? Knee out and the next, THING i got
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: something that's gonna mess me up for the rest of
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: my life for a few. Bucks AND i just kind
• 58:19
  Speaker 7: of feel confident enough THAT i could make something happen
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: outside of the game of, football and Thankfully i've been
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: able to do. That but, YEAH i could have played another. Year,
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: PHYSICALLY i felt. Great there are DAYS i wake up
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: now AND i feel LIKE i can give them another.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Year who have you been able to interview that you
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: were starstruck by when you sat down with?
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: Them you?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Stop what about?
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: It we're gonna stop? It like what about an?
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Athletic WHEN i Interviewed Derek jeter thought that was pretty. Cool,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: well it's usually anybody from WHEN i was a kid
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: THAT i looked up, to because WHEN i meet, Them i'm,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: like this is crazy BECAUSE i still have that inside of,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: me even IF i know everything's like real and you,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: know people are, people but like WHEN i meet somebody
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: from WHEN i was a, KID i still have those.
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: FEELINGS i, mean you know, what the guy that they're
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: really Good jeter's my. BUDDY i, MEAN i don't get
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: me started on that, knucklehead BUT i love. It the
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: one guy WHO i love too is a good friend
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: and everything, else but you see him and you're still,
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: LIKE whoa. WHAT i remember the first TIME i interviewed
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: him with first year he got INTO, nascar AND i was,
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: Like Michael. JORDAN i, MEAN mj is STILL. Mj and
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: and so that was like the one. Guy and as a,
• 59:32
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  Speaker 1: Funny uh Mister Bobby. Bones all, Right thank you, guys
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  Speaker 10: co host at Producer, reddie segment producer At Kickoff, kevin
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