Latest / Built for Chaos / Ep 2 — Army Leadership Lessons
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Good evening. My name is Brian Weatherby. Welcome to the
- 0:05Speaker 1: second episode of Built for Chaos, the podcast that deals
- 0:10Speaker 1: with things you're going to deal with in everyday life,
- 0:14Speaker 1: things that you're going to address head on and you're
- 0:16Speaker 1: going to learn to deal with them and you're going
- 0:18Speaker 1: to be able to make it through. This episode is
- 0:21Speaker 1: dealing with Army leadership lessons. We'll talk about a number
- 0:25Speaker 1: of things in this episode, but that's mainly the main topic.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Basically starting off, nobody cares about your title when everything's
- 0:35Speaker 1: on fire. I can assure you that. I also want
- 0:38Speaker 1: to say that that old man or that old lady
- 0:42Speaker 1: that's walking around town with the veterans hat on, the
- 0:46Speaker 1: World War II vet or the Vietnam veteran hat, any
- 0:50Speaker 1: type of campaign war hat, let me tell you something,
- 0:54Speaker 1: they're more badass than you'll ever be. And the reason
- 0:57Speaker 1: I say that is because They've been through battle. They
- 1:01Speaker 1: understand what it takes to survive. They understand what it
- 1:05Speaker 1: takes to lead people into battle. They know the uncertainty
- 1:09Speaker 1: that these people are going to face on a daily basis,
- 1:11Speaker 1: and every decision is made. They have to stand by
- 1:13Speaker 1: it because everybody that they have in battle is following them,
- 1:16Speaker 1: and they're relying on them to get them home safely.
- 1:19Speaker 1: I can tell you I've been there, done that, got
- 1:21Speaker 1: the T-shirt. And by no way, shape, or form am
- 1:24Speaker 1: I bragging about that, but I'm going to tell you
- 1:26Speaker 1: right now, Those are the things that prepare you for
- 1:28Speaker 1: taking on leadership positions in the civilian sector. A lot
- 1:33Speaker 1: of times you'll take jobs that people, there's no reason
- 1:37Speaker 1: to be threatened by anybody, but for some reason they
- 1:39Speaker 1: feel threatened because you know more than they do or
- 1:42Speaker 1: they think you know more than they do or some
- 1:44Speaker 1: of the things you've been through. Some of the things
- 1:47Speaker 1: they look at on your resume or they know about
- 1:49Speaker 1: your resume as far as you being in the military
- 1:52Speaker 1: and the things you've seen, the adversity you faced head
- 1:54Speaker 1: on and made it through. It's a threat to them,
- 1:59Speaker 1: which is ridiculous because if you're on that team and
- 2:02Speaker 1: you're an asset to that team, you're an asset to
- 2:05Speaker 1: everybody on that team. You're helping them as they're helping you.
- 2:09Speaker 1: You're learning from them as they're learning from you. So
- 2:12Speaker 1: like I said, nobody cares about your title when everything's
- 2:14Speaker 1: on fire. I learned in the Army that, and I
- 2:18Speaker 1: relearned every week, running in a leadership position in the
- 2:23Speaker 1: chemical plant, leadership isn't the rank. What you carry on
- 2:27Speaker 1: your chest. The word manager in your email signature doesn't
- 2:31Speaker 1: mean anything. It's what you do when the pressure's on.
- 2:35Speaker 1: What these people see on a daily basis, how you
- 2:37Speaker 1: handle things, how calm you are, how you remain calm
- 2:39Speaker 1: under pressure. The information is bad and everybody's watching to
- 2:43Speaker 1: see if you'll flinch. Trust me, your employees or the
- 2:48Speaker 1: people you work with are watching your every move. Yes,
- 2:52Speaker 1: you're the manager. You're supposed to watch what they're doing
- 2:54Speaker 1: and making sure everything runs smoothly. but I can assure
- 2:56Speaker 1: you they're watching you more than you'll ever watch them.
- 3:02Speaker 1: As stated, I'm Brian Weatherby. This is Built for Chaos. Today,
- 3:06Speaker 1: the leadership lessons 21 years in the Army burned into
- 3:10Speaker 1: me and how I run my operation when I'm at
- 3:14Speaker 1: work and how I do it right now. And if
- 3:17Speaker 1: you're a veteran listening, these are your lessons too, meaning
- 3:22Speaker 1: your experiences. As we, uh, Progress the show and we
- 3:27Speaker 1: get deeper into episodes and we have guests on. We
- 3:30Speaker 1: want to know what you went through. We want to
- 3:32Speaker 1: know some of the things you did and what you
- 3:34Speaker 1: learned from and how you learned from it and taught
- 3:36Speaker 1: other people and mentored other people. You earned them. This
- 3:41Speaker 1: is about putting them back to work. Those plans and
- 3:44Speaker 1: things that you did in the army, those op orders,
- 3:46Speaker 1: all that stuff that you learned, bring that into the
- 3:49Speaker 1: civilian sector and teach the people that want to learn
- 3:51Speaker 1: from you. Trust me. It comes in handy on a
- 3:56Speaker 1: daily basis. When I joined the Army in 1995, I
- 4:02Speaker 1: thought leadership meant giving orders. That's not what leadership is,
- 4:06Speaker 1: trust me. I was wrong. The Army corrected me fast.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Here's the truth. Your people don't follow your rank, your title,
- 4:17Speaker 1: or what you think you are or how important you
- 4:19Speaker 1: believe yourself to be. That's not what they follow. They
- 4:23Speaker 1: follow the example you set. If they know you're going
- 4:27Speaker 1: to do things the way they're supposed to be done,
- 4:28Speaker 1: it's contagious. They're going to follow you. I've watched leaders
- 4:32Speaker 1: who had every qualification on paper lose their soldier's trust
- 4:37Speaker 1: in a week because when things got hard, they disappeared.
- 4:41Speaker 1: They allowed all the people that were doing all the
- 4:43Speaker 1: work and all the hard things that had to be done,
- 4:46Speaker 1: and they didn't practice what they preached. This happens a
- 4:49Speaker 1: lot in the civilian world as well. Trust me, I
- 4:52Speaker 1: know you've seen it and I know you've been through it.
- 4:55Speaker 1: We've all been through it. So that's something that everybody
- 5:00Speaker 1: can work on and improve on. When I watch these
- 5:05Speaker 1: leaders with no pedigree whatsoever earn loyalty for life because
- 5:09Speaker 1: they showed up, they were honest, and they never asked
- 5:13Speaker 1: anyone to do something they wouldn't do themselves. Those are
- 5:16Speaker 1: the people that people are going to follow. Those are
- 5:18Speaker 1: the people they know that if you have people under
- 5:21Speaker 1: you and you're in charge of, They know you're setting
- 5:23Speaker 1: an example on a daily basis and they will do
- 5:25Speaker 1: the same when you're not around. That's how you build
- 5:28Speaker 1: strong teams. That's how you build cohesive teams. And that's
- 5:33Speaker 1: what the end goal is. That's what you want to do.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Same thing in the plant that I work in. I
- 5:41Speaker 1: have operators and technicians who've been running the equipment longer
- 5:44Speaker 1: than some of the managers have been alive. You think
- 5:48Speaker 1: they're impressed by my title or anybody else's title? They're not.
- 5:54Speaker 1: They're watching everything we do on a daily basis, and
- 5:58Speaker 1: they watch to see if you're around. They watch to
- 6:00Speaker 1: see if you're on the floor checking out things, making
- 6:03Speaker 1: sure things are operating the way they're supposed to, or
- 6:06Speaker 1: they're checking to see who hides in the office and
- 6:08Speaker 1: who doesn't do anything and always makes it look like
- 6:10Speaker 1: they're doing something. Do I know their names? Yes, I do.
- 6:16Speaker 1: I know everybody who works for me. I know exactly
- 6:18Speaker 1: what they're capable of, and I know what they do
- 6:20Speaker 1: on a daily basis. something to keep in mind. When
- 6:24Speaker 1: something breaks at 2 a.m., do I show up or
- 6:28Speaker 1: do I manage it by phone? I've had plenty of
- 6:30Speaker 1: managers who they'll get out of bed at any given
- 6:33Speaker 1: time and they will do whatever it takes to make
- 6:36Speaker 1: sure that things are corrected and put back online the
- 6:39Speaker 1: way they're supposed to be. You have some that don't
- 6:43Speaker 1: do that. You have some that will try to manage
- 6:46Speaker 1: everything by phone and then when something goes wrong, they
- 6:49Speaker 1: point the finger at everybody else and that's exactly what
- 6:51Speaker 1: you don't want. Your title gets you the meeting Your
- 7:05Speaker 1: behavior gets you the team People that work for you
- 7:10Speaker 1: People who look up to you They decide whether you're
- 7:13Speaker 1: a leader or not Trust me, I've learned this the
- 7:15Speaker 1: hard way If you think just because you hold a
- 7:19Speaker 1: title You're automatically going to earn somebody's respect Just because
- 7:22Speaker 1: you have a title You're dead wrong I can tell
- 7:25Speaker 1: you that from experience. It's not going to happen. If
- 7:28Speaker 1: people don't like you just because you hold a title,
- 7:30Speaker 1: it doesn't mean they're going to like you just because
- 7:31Speaker 1: you have a title. You have to earn respect. Respect
- 7:35Speaker 1: is not given. You have to earn that. The trust
- 7:37Speaker 1: that you get from those people, you have to earn that.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Once you do that, you'll have a lot easier time
- 7:42Speaker 1: in life as a leader and a manager. So the
- 7:47Speaker 1: next topic I want to talk about in this episode
- 7:50Speaker 1: is taking care of your people. The single most important
- 7:54Speaker 1: lesson the Army ever taught me was mission first, people always.
- 7:59Speaker 1: You take care of your people. You take care of
- 8:02Speaker 1: the people that work for you, that do the job
- 8:03Speaker 1: on a daily basis. Most everything you deal with will
- 8:07Speaker 1: take care of itself. Those things are never different in
- 8:11Speaker 1: the civilian sector or in conflict. If people know that
- 8:16Speaker 1: you're taking care of them and they know you care
- 8:18Speaker 1: about them, they're going to go the extra mile. And
- 8:21Speaker 1: they will do the same thing in either one of
- 8:23Speaker 1: those situations. And that's key to what we're trying to
- 8:26Speaker 1: accomplish here and make people understand. We have to have
- 8:29Speaker 1: each other's backs at all times. You cannot accomplish the
- 8:33Speaker 1: mission with broken people. That's in the civilian sector and
- 8:36Speaker 1: in the army. That meant making sure my soldiers were fed, rested, trained,
- 8:43Speaker 1: and equipped before I worried about anything else. Same thing
- 8:47Speaker 1: with the civilian sector. If you tell somebody to do
- 8:50Speaker 1: a job on a daily basis and they don't have
- 8:53Speaker 1: the tools and resources to do it, they're not going
- 8:55Speaker 1: to be successful. If they have a manager that every
- 8:59Speaker 1: time they ask them a question or a problem comes
- 9:03Speaker 1: up and the manager is not very involved and they
- 9:06Speaker 1: have to solve it themselves, they're not going to trust
- 9:08Speaker 1: that manager and they're not going to trust that leader.
- 9:10Speaker 1: The same thing goes in the military. That is extremely important.
- 9:15Speaker 1: And making sure you put their needs above your own.
- 9:18Speaker 1: They will follow you anywhere. They'll follow you to hell
- 9:20Speaker 1: and back. Trust me. I know. I've been there. If
- 9:25Speaker 1: my people weren't right, the mission wasn't happening, period. Meaning
- 9:29Speaker 1: that if I didn't give them the tools they needed
- 9:31Speaker 1: to succeed, or we didn't have the tools and resources
- 9:33Speaker 1: to succeed, we weren't going to do the mission. I
- 9:35Speaker 1: would make sure that whoever was in charge of us
- 9:37Speaker 1: understood that. And that goes for the civilian sector as well.
- 9:42Speaker 1: On the Plan 4, it's the same equation with different variables.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Technicians are not soldiers, but the principle holds the same.
- 9:52Speaker 1: If they're burned out, under-trained, or you don't trust them,
- 9:56Speaker 1: your production numbers are going to suffer. Your safety records
- 10:00Speaker 1: is going to suffer. Your quality is going to suffer.
- 10:03Speaker 1: All right. And you have to understand that. And as
- 10:06Speaker 1: a leader, if you can't identify those main things I
- 10:09Speaker 1: just mentioned, then you're going to have a hard time
- 10:11Speaker 1: no matter what. Everything you do and everything that team
- 10:15Speaker 1: does is going to fall apart. Because there's no cohesiveness there.
- 10:19Speaker 1: There's no teamwork. So I tell you this and I
- 10:23Speaker 1: mean it. You have to invest in your people. All right.
- 10:29Speaker 1: You have to sit into these qualification boards and make
- 10:32Speaker 1: sure they understand what you expect of them, that they
- 10:35Speaker 1: understand the work instructions, that they understand the checklist that
- 10:38Speaker 1: they're supposed to use when they run their processes. Same
- 10:42Speaker 1: thing in the military. You have to run the training
- 10:44Speaker 1: so that they understand what the mission is, what they're
- 10:47Speaker 1: going to be doing on a daily basis and what
- 10:49Speaker 1: it takes to survive. You have to learn who's struggling
- 10:53Speaker 1: before it becomes a problem. All right. And usually if
- 10:57Speaker 1: they're struggling, it's not always their fault. I can tell
- 11:00Speaker 1: you that right now from past experiences. There's usually something
- 11:03Speaker 1: that caused that problem to happen in the first place.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Not because I'm soft, but because if you understand leadership,
- 11:11Speaker 1: the hardest thing knows business decision there is, is taking
- 11:15Speaker 1: care of people, taking care of the mission. Like I said,
- 11:19Speaker 1: you take care of the people that work for you,
- 11:21Speaker 1: they'll take care of everything else. If people know that
- 11:25Speaker 1: you care for them and you're in charge of them,
- 11:28Speaker 1: they will do whatever it takes to make sure you're successful.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I guarantee you that. I've never had a problem with
- 11:34Speaker 1: that and I've always practiced that technique. If you lead
- 11:40Speaker 1: anyone A shift, a crew, a team, a family. Ask yourself,
- 11:45Speaker 1: do my people know I've got them? There shouldn't be
- 11:48Speaker 1: no doubt about that. People should already know you have
- 11:51Speaker 1: their back no matter what. And you should know they
- 11:53Speaker 1: have your back no matter what. Am I saying that
- 11:57Speaker 1: there's going to be people out there that don't have
- 11:58Speaker 1: your back? Of course, it's going to happen. Not everybody's
- 12:02Speaker 1: going to be on your team. But that's something you'll
- 12:05Speaker 1: have to address head on. And that's why when chaos hits,
- 12:09Speaker 1: you need to correct it. Because when you don't correct
- 12:12Speaker 1: these types of problems, these type of problems grow into
- 12:15Speaker 1: what they call cancer. Once that cancer spreads throughout your team,
- 12:18Speaker 1: it's going to destroy your team from the inside out.
- 12:20Speaker 1: And that's exactly what you don't want. So you need
- 12:24Speaker 1: to make sure you're aware of these situations. You need
- 12:26Speaker 1: to address them as soon as possible. If the answer
- 12:32Speaker 1: is not an immediate yes, that's your first job is
- 12:35Speaker 1: to correct what I just talked about. All right, the
- 12:39Speaker 1: next thing I want to talk about is making the call,
- 12:41Speaker 1: making the decision that needs to be made. When you're
- 12:45Speaker 1: the leader, there should be no doubt you're the one
- 12:47Speaker 1: that's making the decision that needs to be made. Here's
- 12:51Speaker 1: what separates leaders from everybody else, because indecision kills teams,
- 12:57Speaker 1: kills teamwork, kills individuals in the military. I'm telling you
- 13:02Speaker 1: right now, certain indecisions that I've dealt with or I've seen,
- 13:07Speaker 1: have gotten people killed in combat, and you do not
- 13:10Speaker 1: want to see that. That's something you have to live
- 13:14Speaker 1: with for the rest of your life. Same thing goes
- 13:17Speaker 1: in the civilian sector, especially in the sector I'm in,
- 13:20Speaker 1: dealing with chemicals. Some of those decisions you make, you
- 13:24Speaker 1: have to understand the decision you're making, you could be
- 13:27Speaker 1: putting somebody else's life in danger if you're not paying
- 13:29Speaker 1: attention to yourself or you don't know what you're doing.
- 13:31Speaker 1: So don't make the wrong decision. In the military, I
- 13:36Speaker 1: learned to make the call when you don't have all
- 13:39Speaker 1: the information. You have to be a strategic thinker. You
- 13:43Speaker 1: have to think on your feet. You have to be
- 13:44Speaker 1: able to make the decision fast because indecision is going
- 13:47Speaker 1: to kill somebody. You will never have a full picture
- 13:51Speaker 1: in combat. Trust me. Things are happening as you're around
- 13:54Speaker 1: and you have to make that decision on the spot.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Same thing with a lot of these civilian jobs. You
- 13:59Speaker 1: have to make the decision right away to keep people
- 14:01Speaker 1: out of harm's way. The map is wrong. The radio
- 14:05Speaker 1: is breaking up. The situation's changing. And you still have
- 14:11Speaker 1: to decide because here's the secret. A good decision now
- 14:15Speaker 1: beats a perfect decision too late every time. So meaning
- 14:19Speaker 1: that if you made a good decision and it keep
- 14:22Speaker 1: people out of danger or harm, that's better than making
- 14:25Speaker 1: the perfect decision. And there's people in leadership that think
- 14:28Speaker 1: every time they make a decision, they have to be perfect.
- 14:31Speaker 1: And that's bullshit. I'm going to tell you that right now.
- 14:35Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a perfect decision. If you're
- 14:38Speaker 1: that perfect and you're that worried about what's going to happen,
- 14:41Speaker 1: people learn from mistakes. If you don't let them make mistakes,
- 14:45Speaker 1: they're not going to learn. They're not going to grow.
- 14:48Speaker 1: So you have to understand that as a leader because
- 14:50Speaker 1: that's extremely important. Making sure that you instill that in
- 14:54Speaker 1: your people, that they feel comfortable enough to make the
- 14:56Speaker 1: mistakes in the environment they're in because that's how they learn.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Running a plant, same thing. Equipment goes down, you've got
- 15:10Speaker 1: a production schedule to maintain, and you have a maintenance
- 15:13Speaker 1: window to get this equipment fixed. Safety considerations have to
- 15:17Speaker 1: be thought of, and you don't have all the data.
- 15:21Speaker 1: So you better be thinking quick on your feet. You
- 15:24Speaker 1: make the best call, you get with your team, you
- 15:27Speaker 1: get with your operators, your more senior operators, and you
- 15:29Speaker 1: talk about it, and you understand that you have to
- 15:31Speaker 1: make a decision. You own the decision as well, and
- 15:37Speaker 1: then you adjust from there. Don't blame somebody else for
- 15:41Speaker 1: a decision you made. There's too many people out there
- 15:44Speaker 1: that blame everything on everybody else instead of taking accountability
- 15:47Speaker 1: for responsibility for decisions they made. That affects your team.
- 15:51Speaker 1: That affects everything that's going on in the civilian sector
- 15:54Speaker 1: and in the military. You have to understand most people
- 15:58Speaker 1: freeze because they're afraid of being wrong. Nobody wants to
- 16:02Speaker 1: be wrong. Trust me, it's not. something somebody wants to do,
- 16:05Speaker 1: but it happens. We're all human. You have to understand
- 16:09Speaker 1: that aspect of leadership. And if somebody makes the wrong decision,
- 16:13Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you beat them up about it. Let
- 16:17Speaker 1: me free you from that. You will be wrong sometimes.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Trust me. I've made bad calls. Every leader has. The
- 16:26Speaker 1: difference is what you do next. You own that decision.
- 16:30Speaker 1: You fix it. You learn from it. And you move on.
- 16:35Speaker 1: What you don't do is stand there paralyzed while the
- 16:38Speaker 1: situation makes the decision for you. And that has happened.
- 16:43Speaker 1: If you make the wrong decision in combat, I guarantee
- 16:46Speaker 1: you somebody's going to die. If you make the wrong
- 16:49Speaker 1: decision in the civilian sector, depending on what your job is,
- 16:51Speaker 1: somebody's going to die. So these are all things that
- 16:55Speaker 1: are very important and are parallel in both universes. Trust
- 16:59Speaker 1: me when I say that. So it's very important to
- 17:04Speaker 1: understand when you make the decision, you have to make
- 17:07Speaker 1: the decision before the situation does it for you. And
- 17:11Speaker 1: if you're waiting for the certainty before you act, you're
- 17:15Speaker 1: not being careful. You're advocating what you do not want
- 17:20Speaker 1: to do as a leader. The next thing we're going
- 17:26Speaker 1: to discuss is the outcome. Own it. This one's short
- 17:30Speaker 1: because it's simple. There are no excuses. And trust me,
- 17:34Speaker 1: most people have many excuses. That's what leads to indecision.
- 17:38Speaker 1: That's what leads to bad decisions, excuses. Okay, just because
- 17:42Speaker 1: it may not be your job and you know that
- 17:45Speaker 1: person that's doing that job needs help, especially in the military,
- 17:49Speaker 1: you need to get up off your ass. You need
- 17:50Speaker 1: to help them. If you're part of that team, if
- 17:53Speaker 1: that one person on that team fails, you failed as well.
- 17:57Speaker 1: And if you don't understand that, then you're a piss
- 17:59Speaker 1: poor leader. I can tell you that from experience. If
- 18:03Speaker 1: your team succeeds, you'll succeed. If your team looks good,
- 18:07Speaker 1: you'll look good. That's how it works. When something goes
- 18:11Speaker 1: wrong on my watch in the military or in the
- 18:15Speaker 1: chemical plant, it's mine. I take ownership and I take accountability.
- 18:19Speaker 1: I don't blame anybody else for the decisions I make
- 18:22Speaker 1: and I never will. Because one, it shows the team
- 18:25Speaker 1: that I'm in charge of that I'm responsible and I'm
- 18:28Speaker 1: accountable for every action I take. And I take those
- 18:31Speaker 1: decisions and I make them based off the importance of
- 18:34Speaker 1: what the situation is and how important those people are
- 18:36Speaker 1: to me. It doesn't matter whose hands were on the valve.
- 18:41Speaker 1: I'm the leader. I own it. It doesn't matter whether
- 18:43Speaker 1: I told so-and-so to do it. If they make a mistake,
- 18:47Speaker 1: I'm in charge. When it comes down to it, I'm
- 18:50Speaker 1: the one who's going to take accountability and responsibility for
- 18:52Speaker 1: what happened so that we can correct the problem, we
- 18:55Speaker 1: can make sure we can move forward. That's creating an
- 18:58Speaker 1: environment that people are going to feel safe and they're
- 19:00Speaker 1: going to let you know they made a mistake or
- 19:02Speaker 1: something happened And you're going to correct it. That's what
- 19:05Speaker 1: you need to do as a leader. The moment you
- 19:08Speaker 1: blame your people publicly, you're going to lose them. And
- 19:12Speaker 1: it happens all the time. Especially in the military. There's
- 19:16Speaker 1: been plenty of times where I've seen people been embarrassed
- 19:18Speaker 1: in front of other people or a group of people
- 19:21Speaker 1: or in a platoon or in a battalion setting where
- 19:25Speaker 1: that should have never happened. I've seen it in the
- 19:28Speaker 1: civilian sector as well. Instead of pulling people to the
- 19:31Speaker 1: side and making sure that you talk to them one-on-one,
- 19:35Speaker 1: they were talked to in front of a group of people, embarrassed,
- 19:37Speaker 1: and you're going to lose them, and you're not going
- 19:39Speaker 1: to gain their trust back. You can correct this privately.
- 19:43Speaker 1: You can retrain. You can hold standards, but the accountability
- 19:47Speaker 1: stops with you. If that person fails, more than likely
- 19:51Speaker 1: you weren't doing what you were supposed to to make
- 19:52Speaker 1: sure that that never happened. Because I guarantee you, the
- 19:56Speaker 1: first person they're going to look at when they do
- 19:58Speaker 1: their investigation, any type in the military or in the
- 20:01Speaker 1: civilian sectors, they're going to look at the leader and
- 20:02Speaker 1: see how they lead. And I'm going to tell you
- 20:05Speaker 1: right now, that's where most of your Investigations show that
- 20:08Speaker 1: the person that was in charge really shouldn't have been
- 20:11Speaker 1: in charge in the first place. That's the deal you
- 20:19Speaker 1: sign when you take the position, meaning you take the
- 20:23Speaker 1: responsibility and accountability knowing that when you took that position,
- 20:25Speaker 1: you're responsible for everybody, not just for yourself. And if
- 20:29Speaker 1: that's the way you think, then you shouldn't be wearing
- 20:31Speaker 1: no stripes. You shouldn't be in charge of anybody and
- 20:33Speaker 1: you shouldn't be in charge of it. You shouldn't be
- 20:36Speaker 1: in a management position, period. Because everything that happens on
- 20:40Speaker 1: that particular watch or that shift or wherever you work
- 20:46Speaker 1: is your responsibility. It's not their responsibility. Yes, there is
- 20:51Speaker 1: some personal accountability and responsibility, but overall, you're responsible for
- 20:55Speaker 1: everything that happens. And here's the flip side nobody talks about.
- 21:00Speaker 1: When things go right, the credit goes to your team.
- 21:03Speaker 1: It doesn't go to you. If you're one of those
- 21:05Speaker 1: types of leaders that takes credit for the people that
- 21:07Speaker 1: do the work, I got to tell you, you're an asshole.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Because I'm going to tell you right now, without your team,
- 21:16Speaker 1: you wouldn't be where you are. You're not going to
- 21:18Speaker 1: be successful. If they're getting credit for what they've done
- 21:22Speaker 1: and they're getting praise for what they've done, then you're
- 21:25Speaker 1: getting praise too because you're part of that team. You're
- 21:27Speaker 1: the one leading the team. If you're that insecure that
- 21:30Speaker 1: you have to have the credit and take it away
- 21:32Speaker 1: from the team that did it, then you don't need
- 21:34Speaker 1: to be in a leadership position. That's point blank. There
- 21:38Speaker 1: is no other way of talking about that. You take
- 21:43Speaker 1: the blame is what you do. You take the heat
- 21:46Speaker 1: off them. They're the ones that get the praise because
- 21:49Speaker 1: if they get the praise, that means your team is
- 21:50Speaker 1: operating at optimization and they're doing what's right and they're
- 21:55Speaker 1: being recognized for it and they deserve it. That's the transaction.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Leaders who reverse it Hogging credit, dodging blame, they always
- 22:04Speaker 1: end up leading empty rooms, meaning the people that you're
- 22:07Speaker 1: in charge of, they may act like they're listening to you.
- 22:10Speaker 1: They may act like they're trying to do what you
- 22:12Speaker 1: tell them to do, but more than likely, they're not
- 22:15Speaker 1: doing any of the things you expect them to do.
- 22:16Speaker 1: And more than likely, you're getting called in the office
- 22:19Speaker 1: and getting talked to more than you'd like to anyway.
- 22:21Speaker 1: And if that's the shoe, then if it's, go ahead
- 22:24Speaker 1: and wear it. The next thing I want to talk
- 22:30Speaker 1: about is when you remain calm as a leader, it
- 22:32Speaker 1: becomes contagious. It's, you know, being calm is how your
- 22:44Speaker 1: team is going to react. There's a situation going on
- 22:47Speaker 1: and you're disciplined and you understand what needs to be done.
- 22:50Speaker 1: You're going to take charge and you're going to make
- 22:51Speaker 1: sure you remain calm and you're going to dole out
- 22:54Speaker 1: the test and need to be doled out. And you're
- 22:56Speaker 1: going to get things done, whether in combat or whether
- 22:59Speaker 1: in the civilian sector. It works both ways. It might
- 23:04Speaker 1: not be the most important thing to you, but your
- 23:06Speaker 1: emotional state is the team's emotional state. So if you're
- 23:08Speaker 1: in a bad mood or you're pissed off or you're frantic,
- 23:13Speaker 1: they're going to pick up on that. They're going to
- 23:14Speaker 1: feed on that. That's the same thing they do in combat.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Panic spreads faster than anything in combat. It also spreads
- 23:22Speaker 1: faster than anything in the civilian sector, so you need
- 23:24Speaker 1: to make sure you're a calm person. You need to
- 23:26Speaker 1: collect your thoughts, and you need to maintain your composure
- 23:29Speaker 1: when you're dealing with any type of situation. That's why
- 23:33Speaker 1: I say you're built for chaos, and you don't even
- 23:35Speaker 1: know it, because a lot of people, they do remain calm.
- 23:38Speaker 1: They do take charge of the situation, and they do
- 23:41Speaker 1: what's right and make sure the decisions need to be
- 23:43Speaker 1: made are made, and the outcome is a favorable one.
- 23:48Speaker 1: The person who loses it, suddenly everybody's losing it. So
- 23:52Speaker 1: like I said, if you have that one person on
- 23:54Speaker 1: your team that can't maintain their composure, they're always pissed off,
- 23:57Speaker 1: they're always yelling. Or I've had leaders where they throw
- 24:02Speaker 1: shit and they want to kick shit. Or they just
- 24:05Speaker 1: curse at people and talk bad to people. You're not
- 24:09Speaker 1: going to be a very successful leader. First of all,
- 24:11Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be in that position to begin with.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Because if you talk to me like that, I don't
- 24:15Speaker 1: care what your title is. I don't care what you
- 24:18Speaker 1: think you are. You put your pants on just like me,
- 24:21Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you right to your face
- 24:23Speaker 1: that you're a piece of shit. So if you think
- 24:26Speaker 1: that that's the way to lead people, you're dead wrong.
- 24:28Speaker 1: And I just want to make sure you understand that.
- 24:33Speaker 1: But the reverse is true as well. One calm, steady
- 24:36Speaker 1: leader in the middle of chaos, and the whole room
- 24:39Speaker 1: stays steady. The whole room performs the way it's supposed to,
- 24:44Speaker 1: and everybody gets home safe to their families and their
- 24:47Speaker 1: loved ones. All right, you have to understand that. And
- 24:51Speaker 1: that's very important as being a leader, is remaining calm
- 24:54Speaker 1: and maintaining your composure, no matter what the situation is.
- 25:01Speaker 1: I carry on the plan for every day, that particular
- 25:05Speaker 1: mind frame, because that's what I deal with on a
- 25:07Speaker 1: daily basis now. When I was in the military, I
- 25:10Speaker 1: did the same thing. When an alarm goes off or
- 25:14Speaker 1: when a unit trips inside of work, when something's going wrong,
- 25:19Speaker 1: The technicians are watching me before they watch the gauges.
- 25:23Speaker 1: They watch to see what's going to happen. They watch
- 25:25Speaker 1: how people react. They see if I'm calm, they're calm.
- 25:29Speaker 1: If I'm rattled, they're going to be rattled. It's point blank.
- 25:32Speaker 1: I'm trying to drive this point home and make you
- 25:34Speaker 1: understand the more calm you remain, the more calm they're
- 25:37Speaker 1: going to remain. You don't have to feel calm because
- 25:41Speaker 1: trust me, there's been times where I've been in situations
- 25:43Speaker 1: in combat and in the civilian sector where I've almost
- 25:46Speaker 1: shit my pants in some of the things I've dealt with.
- 25:50Speaker 1: There's times where I thought I wasn't going to make
- 25:51Speaker 1: it home alive, especially in combat. But maintaining my composure
- 25:58Speaker 1: and the discipline that I was given and trained to do,
- 26:00Speaker 1: it helped me get through the situation. It also helped
- 26:02Speaker 1: me deal with the people that were under me, made
- 26:05Speaker 1: sure that they maintained their calmness and everybody else on
- 26:07Speaker 1: the team. And we did what we had to do
- 26:10Speaker 1: to get back home to our families and our loved ones.
- 26:18Speaker 1: If I'm calm, they're going to be calm. Like I said,
- 26:21Speaker 1: if they're rattled, they're going to be rattled. You don't
- 26:24Speaker 1: have to feel calm. You don't have to be calm outwardly, deliberately,
- 26:29Speaker 1: deliberately until the real thing catches up. That's not fake.
- 26:33Speaker 1: That's leadership. Trust me, you're the one that's on the
- 26:36Speaker 1: front line. You're the one that's dealing with the situation.
- 26:39Speaker 1: So the more you remain calm, the more they will.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Your team borrows your composure when they don't have their own.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Meaning if they're scared shitless and they see you're calm,
- 26:49Speaker 1: they're going to be calm because they don't want to
- 26:51Speaker 1: freak out as well. Trust me, like I said, I've
- 26:54Speaker 1: been in situations where I don't know how I maintain
- 26:57Speaker 1: being calm, but it did. I guess, I don't know.
- 27:01Speaker 1: I guess you just go, your mind goes blank in
- 27:04Speaker 1: certain situations and you got to do what you got
- 27:06Speaker 1: to do. That's called flight or fright. And it does happen.
- 27:11Speaker 1: So check yourself out. What you're broadcasting to your people
- 27:15Speaker 1: right now. Meaning that if you're having issues with this
- 27:19Speaker 1: right now, try what I just talked about. Try remaining calm.
- 27:23Speaker 1: Try maintaining your composure when the shit hits the fan.
- 27:26Speaker 1: And you'll realize that these people are going to follow
- 27:28Speaker 1: you and they're going to understand that you're trying to
- 27:30Speaker 1: remain calm and you're keeping everybody calm and they're going
- 27:32Speaker 1: to be calm. And the situation will be a lot
- 27:34Speaker 1: easier to deal with. So the next thing I want
- 27:39Speaker 1: to talk about is it's your turn. Let me bring
- 27:41Speaker 1: this home. You don't need 21 years in the Army
- 27:44Speaker 1: to lead like this. Here's your homework. There's three questions
- 27:48Speaker 1: I want to ask you. The first one, do your
- 27:51Speaker 1: people know you've got them? Okay, that's one of the
- 27:55Speaker 1: things I want you to think about as a leader. Two,
- 28:00Speaker 1: the second thing, what's the decision you've been avoiding because
- 28:05Speaker 1: you don't have the perfect information? What types of situations
- 28:09Speaker 1: have you dealt with where you've been avoiding things dealing
- 28:12Speaker 1: with because you don't have the information and you don't
- 28:15Speaker 1: want to feel embarrassed or you're too embarrassed to ask
- 28:18Speaker 1: somebody else to figure it out and number three the
- 28:23Speaker 1: last question i want to ask is what are you
- 28:25Speaker 1: broadcasting are you calm are you creating the chaos that
- 28:29Speaker 1: we're talking about and uh trust me a lot of
- 28:33Speaker 1: leaders do that and don't even realize it their mannerisms
- 28:37Speaker 1: the way they interact with people on a daily basis
- 28:40Speaker 1: i know i've deal with it all the time I
- 28:43Speaker 1: still deal with it in the civilian sector and I
- 28:45Speaker 1: dealt with it in the military. And I'm not going
- 28:48Speaker 1: to say that I probably haven't done this to people
- 28:50Speaker 1: at one time or another myself, but we all learn
- 28:53Speaker 1: from our mistakes. Like I said, those are the kind
- 28:55Speaker 1: of environments you want. You want people that when they
- 28:58Speaker 1: make a mistake, they're not afraid to come forward and
- 29:00Speaker 1: talk to you about it. And you can joke about
- 29:03Speaker 1: it later on because I guarantee you that one time
- 29:06Speaker 1: or another, we've all made a mistake. Nobody's perfect. I
- 29:11Speaker 1: want you to answer these questions honestly and act on
- 29:14Speaker 1: what you find. And you'll be ahead of 90% of
- 29:17Speaker 1: the people that you know as leaders and in their title.
- 29:21Speaker 1: All right. These are things that you can practice on
- 29:24Speaker 1: a daily basis. They're going to help you be a
- 29:26Speaker 1: better leader to the people you work with. And they're
- 29:29Speaker 1: going to appreciate it more. And as a leader, you
- 29:31Speaker 1: should be growing everybody under you to take your job.
- 29:34Speaker 1: And eventually you can move on and they can get
- 29:36Speaker 1: promoted as well. That's what a leader does. That's what
- 29:39Speaker 1: a leader practice. so in closing I want to talk
- 29:44Speaker 1: about veteran resources which is very important the one thing
- 29:49Speaker 1: I'm saying on every episode of this show is if
- 29:52Speaker 1: you're a veteran in crisis or you get worried about
- 29:55Speaker 1: one dial 988 and then press 1 Free confidential 24-7
- 30:02Speaker 1: help is available. And you don't have to be enrolled
- 30:06Speaker 1: in VA health care to call that number. You can
- 30:09Speaker 1: also text 838-255. Once again, you can dial 988, then
- 30:12Speaker 1: press 1. It's free and confidential. It's man 24-7. And
- 30:16Speaker 1: then you can also text 838-255 for help. The full
- 30:29Speaker 1: resource list lives in the show notes. VA claims, employment help,
- 30:36Speaker 1: credit counseling, all free to veterans. Somebody listening right now
- 30:41Speaker 1: may need one of those numbers, so don't sit on it.
- 30:45Speaker 1: If you have somebody you know or you need some help,
- 30:49Speaker 1: please reach out to us and we will definitely get
- 30:51Speaker 1: you the information you need. So in the next episode,
- 30:56Speaker 1: we're going to talk about discipline. which isn't a personality trait.
- 31:01Speaker 1: It's a decision that you make every single morning. Everything
- 31:05Speaker 1: you do is an act of discipline. I'm going to
- 31:09Speaker 1: break down exactly what it looks like in the Army
- 31:12Speaker 1: and in the civilian sector and on the plant floor.
- 31:17Speaker 1: And in the rebuild, I'm living right now in my
- 31:20Speaker 1: own daily life. In closing, I'm Brian Weatherby, This is
- 31:27Speaker 1: Built for Chaos, the second episode. Share this with one
- 31:31Speaker 1: veteran or leader who needs to hear it. And that's
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- 31:38Speaker 1: better as we go along. We're going to start doing
- 31:40Speaker 1: live streams. We're going to start having guests. We want
- 31:44Speaker 1: to hear from your experiences and we want to know
- 31:46Speaker 1: how you lived your life and how you helped other people.
- 31:48Speaker 1: Because that's what it's all about, brother and sisters. I'm
- 31:52Speaker 1: telling you that right now. If you do that in
- 31:54Speaker 1: your life, And you do it on a daily basis,
- 31:57Speaker 1: you're going to see how easy life can be. And
- 32:00Speaker 1: if you served, we want your story on this show
- 32:02Speaker 1: as well. This is your platform, veterans, and for people
- 32:07Speaker 1: in the civilian sector as well. Reach out to us
- 32:10Speaker 1: and let's get your experience heard because it's very important.
- 32:14Speaker 1: Everybody will learn from your experiences whether you believe it
- 32:16Speaker 1: or not. Like I said, and I always say, there's
- 32:20Speaker 1: a bulldog in all of us. Time to let it out.
- 32:23Speaker 1: See you on the next episode, episode three. Everybody have
- 32:27Speaker 1: a great night. Stay blessed and see you soon.