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Diddy's Documentary Drama and Healthcare's Dark Trial: Tumultuous Tales, Industry Collisions, and the Impact of Public Opinion...Will Accountability and Reform Emerge from the Shadows? · The Flo Show, no filter

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  Speaker 1: the thoughts, views and opinions shared on the flow show no filter are for educational and entertainment purposes Only.
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  Speaker 1: I am not a professional, I am just good, happy, happy Monday to everybody out there.
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: We are back.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, so much shit happened over the weekend.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: We got so much news to talk about this week.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of news to talk about today.
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  Speaker 1: Hope you had a great weekend.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: Hope enjoyed your weekend.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed mine, but I don't know y'all.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: The country is going between the new presidency and all the new rules, things that's going on, and diddy and luigi maggioni.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: A lot to talk about y'all.
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  Speaker 1: We got another Diddy documentary coming up I think it actually drops tomorrow called the Fall of Diddy, brought to you by i-D.
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  Speaker 1: This is the one with what is her name.
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  Speaker 1: Dee Woods from Danny D C cane spoke out on this.
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  Speaker 1: One had a quite a few people spoke out on uh, this, on this documentary.
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  Speaker 1: You know these diddy documentaries coming out like every five minutes.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: We got a new one, but this one looks like it's got some new interviews with, I think, rod, the guy who brought the producer after Cassie.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: He was the next big thing as far as brought a big case to Diddy.
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: He filed that big lawsuit.
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  Speaker 1: He's in there and Vibe Magazine people all kind of people talking shit on Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: People talking shit on Diddy we're gonna talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: And then I've been hearing a lot of y'all asking about the Luigi case and wanting to talk about that, so I'm gonna talk about that today for y'all.
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  Speaker 1: And these two are, like the, some of the most important trials in modern day history the Diddy trial and the Luigi trial.
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  Speaker 1: And isn't it fitting, or should I even say ironic, that they have the.
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  Speaker 1: Their husband and wife are the lawyers for both.
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  Speaker 1: So, uh, the husband is Diddy's lawyer and his wife is luigi's lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just kind of ironic that the trials of two trials of the century would be, uh, would have lawyers that were married.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you why these two trials trials are trials of the century.
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  Speaker 1: Basically, diddy's trial.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the biggest trials of seeing if we're going to be able to hold somebody as powerful as Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: Is he going to be held accountable?
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  Speaker 1: Is he going to be able to be held accountable?
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  Speaker 1: This is what we're waiting to find out, because Diddy, I would say, has to be the biggest celebrity, a-list celebrity that's gone down this path and he has so much information allegedly on so many politicians, so many big time figures, that people are wondering will he actually be brought to justice?
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: And so if he is found guilty or found innocent either way, this case will have repercussions going forward and it'll send a message that somebody as big as Diddy can be brought down than anybody who been engaging in these shenanigans can be brought down.
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  Speaker 1: And then we go to the Luigi Maggioni case For the first time, the health care, which has been one of the biggest scams in history.
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  Speaker 1: We all know that, but it's been brought to the forefront because of this killing of the CEO, the CEO of United Health Care what's his name?
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  Speaker 1: Brian Thompson and now all the CEOs and of health care who've been getting over on people forever.
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  Speaker 1: Now they are in danger and talking about they're going to look into better policies and and using more compassion all the stuff that you would think they would have been doing before one of their CEOs got killed.
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  Speaker 1: So, with all the mountain frustration of people getting denied health care access and all of this stuff, now the public is rallying around Luigi Mangione, and they don't like that Because they are used to us having our head in the sand as they make billions and billions and billions and billions of easy money and we don't, you know, we're just blind to blind to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the veil has been lifted up now and now they have a problem, and and so this luigi case is huge for health care and for the public.
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  Speaker 1: They are scared that luigi is getting so much, much support from the public and other entities.
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  Speaker 1: They're scared he is going to be set free by a jury and that's due to a term called jury nullification.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to go over that later on in this episode as well.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start.
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  Speaker 1: Can we start with the uh, this diddy documentary?
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  Speaker 1: They got another one and another one and another one.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody get a diddy documentary, so id has one now.
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  Speaker 1: So let's, let's uh, let's go into that one First.
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  Speaker 1: Let me give you the.
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  Speaker 1: Let's listen to the.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get the trailer for that first, and then we'll go into it.
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  Speaker 3: After the shoot, Mr Combs wanted to see the covers before they were published.
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  Speaker 3: It was policy for us not to show covers to anyone before they were published.
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  Speaker 3: He called me at my office.
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  Speaker 3: I told him again we don't show the covers, we don't share the story.
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  Speaker 3: I told him that I wouldn't be making an exception and he said that he would see me dead in a trunk if I did not show it to him.
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  Speaker 1: This is a vibe person who ran vibe a woman.
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  Speaker 3: I said to him you need to take that back.
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  Speaker 3: He said something to the effect you know he wasn't taking shit back.
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  Speaker 3: So then I said I'm calling my attorney, and my attorney called him to say that if he didn't immediately fax over an apology, my attorney was going to reach out to law enforcement.
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: And I think it took about 90 minutes to two hours and I received that faxed apology.
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  Speaker 3: What I've only recently come to realize the members of the staff at that time was that he had actually, in the days before, come up to the vibe offices with two tough guys looking for me.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to stop right there.
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  Speaker 1: This is a black woman that ran the Vibe magazine back in the day and they had a policy that they didn't let the person who was on the cover of the Vibe they didn't let the person who was on the cover of the vibe, they didn't let them see the cover until it was out.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Well, diddy didn't want to listen to that rule, allegedly, and sent guys and came to her a woman with men looking for her, threatening bodily harm, and so we're going to touch on that story of that young lady and the vibe.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: This is in the fall of Diddy ID, which is actually dropping tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Just got a few exclusive clips that were sent to me and we're going to go over those here on the Flow Show no Filter.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: But let's get into it.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: So y'all y'all already know this is the Flow Show no Filter.
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  Speaker 1: So check us out.
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  Speaker 1: And today we're going to dive into Some more allegations of Diddy With this Vibe Magazine young lady, which is also in the fall of Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get the details of this situation Danielle Smith, vers versus Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: It's basically what we got going on.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Danielle Smith was a trailblazing editor with Vibe magazine in the 90s, late 90s and back in 1997, 90s, late 90s and back in 1997, diddy threatened her over a magazine cover featuring the late, notorious BIG.
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  Speaker 1: Now Smith says the threat wasn't subtle.
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  Speaker 1: She said it was violent.
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  Speaker 1: It was specific and personal enough to make her fear for her safety.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this wasn't some offhand comment, it wasn't something she felt she needed to involve her lawyer in.
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  Speaker 1: But now Diddy eventually he apologized after the lawyer stepped in she didn't think it was necessary, but obviously maybe that's all that diddy respects is a lawyer, but that don't erase what happened and obviously that's why she's on this damn dick documentary spilling the beans on Diddy's ass.
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  Speaker 1: But this is where we need to pause and think about the bigger picture.
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  Speaker 1: Think about At this time Diddy was a kingpin in the music industry.
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  Speaker 1: Smith Danielle Smith was a woman in a high profile role, but even with her stature she felt the crushing weight of his power.
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  Speaker 1: She had to balance protecting herself with protecting her career.
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  Speaker 1: Because, let's be real, standing up to someone like Diddy, especially in the 90s, early 2000s, that was like career suicide.
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  Speaker 1: He ran everything.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Diddy was larger than life.
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  Speaker 1: So let's unpack the power dynamics that were going on at this time.
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  Speaker 1: Diddy wasn't just another artist Looking for a Vibe magazine cover.
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  Speaker 1: At this time he was the industry's golden boy.
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  Speaker 1: This, the late 90s, this more money, more problems this is shit.
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  Speaker 1: Even I'll be missing you.
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  Speaker 1: All the stuff, all the iconic shit that Diddy was doing in the 90s.
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  Speaker 1: He was running shit.
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  Speaker 1: We just have to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: He had the money, he had the connections and he had the ability to make or break careers.
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  Speaker 1: So when someone like that lashes out, it's not just words, it's a weapon.
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  Speaker 1: And this black woman trying to run vibe was forced to battle Diddy by herself.
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  Speaker 1: Now, even back then, women in general, but especially black women in male-dominated industries, have always had to battle extra battles, fight extra fights.
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  Speaker 1: A woman needed to be even stronger than a man, vocal, but not too vocal, because when you push back you get labeled a problem and next thing you know people don't want to work with you.
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  Speaker 1: But that didn't stop Danielle Smith.
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  Speaker 1: She stood her ground.
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  Speaker 1: But how many women in this era stay silent?
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  Speaker 1: You think?
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  Speaker 1: Because everybody didn't have the strength or the power or the means that maybe Danielle had.
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  Speaker 1: How many women, men, whoever, was Diddy able to keep silence in this era?
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  Speaker 1: Silent in this era?
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  Speaker 1: So the truth is, men like Diddy have relied on the ability to keep people silent in order to stay powerful, to stay on top of everything.
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  Speaker 1: So what stands out to me is the consistency of these claims.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this is a pattern.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like everybody got the same story Now.
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  Speaker 1: Diddy's name came up in numerous lawsuits, allegations of mistreatment and all kind of stuff in this time, but in the 90s people wasn't trying to hear that shit.
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  Speaker 1: You would get silenced quickest shit if you tried to come out against Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: But, like I said, one thing we cannot deny is over and over again we see this pattern Intimidation, control, control.
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  Speaker 1: And every time his team denies it, people don't buy it.
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  Speaker 1: But how many times do we have to fear these stories before we start connecting the dots?
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  Speaker 1: We got to connect these dots y'all.
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  Speaker 1: We got to connect these dots y'all.
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  Speaker 1: One allegation can be dismissed as a misunderstanding and communication.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe just a flat-out lie, maybe, but two, three, four, five, a hundred.
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  Speaker 1: It starts to become a pattern.
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  Speaker 1: Now, diddy isn't the only powerful man to use that playbook, let's understand that, but he's the one in the fucking hot seat right now.
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  Speaker 1: So this is who we're going to be addressing, and if Diddy gets a chance to slide.
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  Speaker 1: And if Diddy gets a chance to slide, then it's open season on anybody trying to be in the music industry, movie industry, anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: You will have to play the game, because if Diddy can get away with it, everybody going to feel like they can get away with it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: This is why accountability in these cases is so important.
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  Speaker 1: It's not about tearing nobody down just for the sake of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's about justice and getting justice and providing justice to the people who need it, and before 2024, justice for the common folk in these type of situations was always in the back, took a backseat.
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  Speaker 1: So and it's not about just making sure that powerful man can't keep using their influence.
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  Speaker 1: It's bigger than that.
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  Speaker 1: We are trying to end that shit indefinitely, where people realize that if you use your money and power to influence and victimize people, then in the new way we do things, your ass ass gonna rot, and that's kind of what's going on now.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Think about the many women who come forward in recent years and this time, when you come forward, you risking your your, your, your name, your privacy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: People will troll you all type of shit.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: So to come out and speak against celebrities, people with power or tough, it's very tough, but we can't stop.
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  Speaker 1: We can't stop supporting the victims.
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  Speaker 1: We can't stop looking into these stories.
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  Speaker 1: Stories like Danielle Smith's reminds us that we still got a lot of fucking work to do.
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  Speaker 1: Accountability isn't just about the big court cases or the big media shows.
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  Speaker 1: It's about people like y'all out there, people like me, demanding better from society, from the world we live in.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: So this is just another documentary that I'm going to ask that you pay attention to.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Dee Woods is actually in this documentary.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And, if you remember, I told you I was very, very, very close with Dee Woods back in the early what was it?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: From like 2005 to maybe 2008 or something like that, in that in that time period I was running around and I can say one thing D Woods it actually will be on Good Morning America today talking about Diddy.
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  Speaker 1: She is the singer from Danny D King.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: She would be on Good Morning America today.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And one thing about Dee Woods she ain't never been the one like, even back then.
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  Speaker 1: She would hint around to like Diddy was a was a monster and doing wild shit or doing dumb shit.
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  Speaker 1: She would hint around to it but she never told me or never told anybody that I know of what was really going on.
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  Speaker 1: She was just working and singing and she one of those people that I she would never you can tell.
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  Speaker 1: She's not going to use no bullshit to get on top, she's just going to work hard as fuck.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So I'm telling you all that to say from my cosign and my heart.
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  Speaker 1: D Woods is somebody that you can fucking listen to and I'm standing on that because I actually know her and I actually knew her in this time and kind of knew hints about what was going on with Diddy and the females that worked around him and all that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: But, like I said, they didn't give me details and I ain't really asked for much Because you know when it ain't my business I figure if somebody wants to tell me they'll tell me.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I'm always willing to listen but I'm not going to pry and prod and make you tell me your personal business, because you know they want to keep shit to themselves.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: But I can tell you one thing you can believe Dee Woods she not, she not she, she's one of us when I say that she's one of us.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Like, I met a damn near everybody you can meet in the industry and I can tell you the ones who are one of us, like I met a damn near everybody you can meet in the industry and I can tell you the ones who are one of us and it's very few, but Dee Woods is one you.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: You ain't gotta worry about her just getting on Good Morning America saying shit to blow her up, because she ain't even that type.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So let's check out this interview.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: A clip from her interview on Good Morning America I'm curious why you decided to speak up now.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Well, it's more of a question of why I have not been able to speak up.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: In the past is a time where I feel like my experience, my truth, will really be heard and actually considered and believed.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: He is looked at as a hero of our community and myself included, I looked up to him too, so a lot of people don't want to believe that their hero can be this other person.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Now I'm telling you this Diddy Ass, he in trouble y'all.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is I've been around.
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  Speaker 1: I was in the industry, raised up in it, knew it.
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  Speaker 1: I've met everybody, still know a lot of people to this day and certain people that say like a d woods, they are not.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: They are a hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: Not somebody looking for a quick check, not somebody who's looking to live off somebody else's name, just a good, hard-working woman who believes in her talent and works hard as fucking been working hard as fuck since way back in 2000, up until now.
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  Speaker 1: And so when you got people like that coming out, oh, your ass in trouble, because she's not one of them, people just looking to make some money or looking to be seen.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: She's going to tell you hardcore facts and it's going to hit the fan.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So make sure y'all check out that Good Morning America interview is today.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: If you miss it live.
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  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be from by the time you, you it's probably going on and like I think 10 o'clock or anytime between seven and nine or eight and 10, depends on where you live at.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: But um, if you don't check it out, I think they said is it'll be on the uh, abc, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning America's ABC, whoever, whatever their app is.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's ABC, is the channel and it's their app.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, check that out, definitely don't want to miss it app.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, check that out, definitely don't want to miss it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: We also got so many topics to cover that I won't even be able to fit them in in this one.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go to this.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Luigi maggioni, this case.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: If you're not paying attention to the luigi maggioni case, you need to.
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  Speaker 1: It means a lot because it's the first time that health care is really under the microscope and it ain't just us yelling and screaming.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Now they're to the point where they, ceos, are fearing for their life.
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  Speaker 1: They're actually taking their name off of these health care pages and not showing that they're.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: They're not showing that they're that their CEO of no healthcare.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: They don't want to be pointed out as that.
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  Speaker 1: And so the dynamics of the case, the way the public is behind Luigi Maggioni, the prisoners are behind Luigi, the prison guards are behind Luigi and, I already said, the public is, and so that has the powers that be the system, the government, whoever you want to call it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: They are scared, shitless, and they're scared shitless because of a thing called jury nullification.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And so we're going gonna get into that and let me explain to this and jury nullification.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: It is something that, if you don't know what it is, we're about to break it down, but this case is gonna affect your health care rates.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: This case is gonna affect the percentage of denied health insurance, how many times you get denied.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: This case is going to have a lot to do with it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Now, unitedhealthcare denied a whopping 34% of all claims before the CEO got killed, shot in the back.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: 34%, so that's a little more than out of every three people who pay their life, their health insurance, every third person was getting denied coverage that they needed.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Person was getting denied coverage that they needed.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Most industry, let's say, like kaiser, permanente or or some of the other there are like around like 12 10 united health care is at 34 and, as sad as it is, I believe that cost Brian Thompson his life.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Think about it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: If you're denying one out of every three people and you are going to have a lot of motherfuckers mad and a lot of people who end up dying because of that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: People are dying because people in the health care are greedy and will and denying coverage for their own pockets.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: United Health Care is so shady with it greedy and denying coverage for their own pockets.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Unitedhealthcare was so shady with it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: They had an AI system set up to deny more.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: They were trying to figure out a way to deny more health coverage.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous y'all, ridiculous y'all.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: And because of this situation has put a microscope on them.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'm about to get into the facts, but let me just tell you this from the time that CEO has got shot and killed and all the backlash, with the public saying the healthcare is a scam and basically putting a middle finger up to all the healthcare companies, well, they've lost $63 billion since this happened.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: So let's get into this shit.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So let's get into this shit.
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  Speaker 1: So this jury nullification is a legal theory that a lot of people weren't familiar with until this case, but right now it's being whispered in courtrooms and the government is scared as fuck because luigi maggioni, the man accused of murdering united healthcare ceo brian thompson, could be set free because of this.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Now let me be clear this case is more than just about one man's guilt or one man's innocent.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: This is about health care and being fair to the American people.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: It's about the power dynamics in our legal system and whether jurors might decide to rewrite the script entirely.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: So let's break it down.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: What is this jury nullification that Flo keeps talking about?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Now, how might it play into the Maggioni trial and what does this mean for justice as we know it?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, so jury nullification, jury nullification, is this unique power jurors have, even if they don't realize it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Essentially, a jury can decide to acquit a defendant, even when the evidence proves guilt.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Because they believe the law itself is unjust or that it's being applied unfairly.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: So, for example, let's say someone is on trial for stealing food to feed their family.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: The evidence is clear.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: They stole that shit right, follow me.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: But the jury might feel like Punishing that person doesn't align With their sense of justice, so they'll choose to acquit.
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  Speaker 1: That, my friends, is jury nullification In action.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: That, my friends, is jury nullification in action.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing it's a legal gray area.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Judges won't tell jurors they have this power.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: In fact, bringing up jury nullification directly in court can sometimes be seen as misconduct.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Now, why would I say that?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Because they feel like it's essentially saying you, as a juror, can override the law.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Again, y'all, we have the power.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Don't ever forget that.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: And that's a scary idea for a system built on strict rules and procedures meant to keep us in place and basically tell us to shut up and eat our food.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Now let's tie this concept to the case at hand, luigi Maggioni.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: He's been accused of murdering Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare, and the prosecution is painting a picture of premeditation motive, a cold, blooded killing.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Now they've got evidence, they've got testimony and they feel like they have a strong case.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: But let's think about the defense y'all.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: They're hinting at something very different.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: They're not necessarily saying Luigi didn't do it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Instead, they're setting the stage for an emotional appeal to the juror's sense of justice.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: The underlying argument could go something like this luigi's actions, while technically illegal, were a response to a system that's broken.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll point to unethical practices in the healthcare industry or personal grievances that pushed him to a breaking point.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Or maybe they'll just prove or say that he didn't do it all together, and the jury might agree.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Prove or say that he didn't do it all together, and the jury might agree.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Now that brings us to a question Is jury nullification ethical?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Now, on one hand, it's empowering, giving power to the people like us, you and me, that if we get caught up, or one of our peers get caught up, in an unfair law, we can take action in our hands.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: It's a way to push back against the system.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: It's a form of protest.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: It's a way to inject humanity into a rigid legal process, but, on the other hand, it could be unpredictable.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Imagine if every jury just decided to make their own rules.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: What then would happen to the consistency?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: What happens with justice when it becomes subjective?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: These are the questions that people ask.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Who may be against jury nullification?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: But in Luigi's case, this question looms large.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: If the jury decides to nullify, meaning if they acquit him despite evidence that might point to him, what message does that send?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Does it say we need to rethink how we handle cases like this, or does it open the door for chaos in the courtroom?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Brian Thompson wasn't just any victim.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: He was the CEO of a massive company, a man with influence and resources most of us can only imagine.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And Maggioni he's being painted as an everyman, someone who snapped under the weight Of a system that feels rigged.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Against people like him.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Now, let's be clear.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: This isn't about Against people like him.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Now, let's be clear.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: This isn't About Excusing violence At all, but it is about Asking the hard questions that people don't want to ask.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: What Do we do about this healthcare situation where millions are dying as they pay for their healthcare.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: What drives someone to do such drastic action?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: See, everybody want to look at the action, they want to look at the effect, but they don't want to look at the cause.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: If somebody, if a CEO of a health care, is murdered and the whole public is, in a sense, applauding it, what does that tell you about the health care?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: It's not like every day someone's killed and every day the public is just applauding it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: 99.99999% of the time when someone is killed, the public sides and feels bad for that family and wants the criminal or the suspect to rot.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: That's 99.9 percent of the time.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: But why, in this case, is the public behind luigi?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So, instead of the government system trying to point the finger and bad mouth the public and and ridicule the public for being behind Luigi, they need to ask themselves why there must be something very wrong with this healthcare system If the public is happy, in a sense, that someone or a company who has took thousands of lives has has one life taken of their own.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And, like I said, I'm not condoning violence one bit.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you exactly what the hell is going on.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Don't shoot the messenger.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Jury nullification is one of those rare tools that puts power back in the hands of regular people Like you and me.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But with great power, like we always know, comes great responsibility.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: How it is used or misused can change the lives and cause ripple effects through our entire system of justice.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: So this Luigi case, just like the Diddy case, is one that the outcome will affect us for the rest of our life.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: If somehow Luigi is found innocent, with all the cards stacked against him, they say they got all this evidence.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: They say they got all this evidence, but if somehow the jury finds him innocent, the health care think they got a problem on their hands.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Right now they're going to have a serious problem.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: If this, if, if, if Luigi's acquitted and I could see it happening the people are pissed and I'm with them.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: 34 percent denied coverage.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: So if you were united healthcare and you really need some shit and you've been paying your insurance, your health insurance All your life and everything but if that coverage is An amount of money that they don't want to cover or they want to keep their pockets fat, they're going to deny Three or four of y'all out of ten.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: That's fucking ridiculous y'all, and we got to use this opportunity to stand up to their ass because it's getting out of hand.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And so we got more, more shit coming.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: And so we got more, more shit coming.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to dive tomorrow.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to dive into this jay-z cover-up that they got going on.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Let me give you a little hint of that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's a guy who has claimed to talk.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: He was in prison with R Kelly and he claims to have a lot of, let's just say, industry secrets, and a lot of them have to do with Jay-Z, and this is supposed to be stuff that R Kelly told him.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Kelly told him he said that.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: He said that kid of Jay-Z's is that kid that was a grown man now that claims that he's Jay-Z's son.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: He says that's true, but he said way more than that.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Bottom line is this guy?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Even under all these circumstances decease, decease.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: They can try to silence me, I'm still good.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I got a different force behind me and people will assume that I'm some ignorant, illiterate guy, but I I I know what I'm doing, you know.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know things I can and cannot say without having legal consequence.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And another thing I want to mention, because there have been a lot of bloggers insinuating that you know they're, they're going to do it anyway.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Every story that just seems too good to be true.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: They assume you're lying, right.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: So with regards to the situation, you just explain what the dude you was locked up with you got to think why has R Kelly never came forth and tried to do that with me?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Why he never came forth and said to do that with me?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Why he never came forth and say Ronnie Bo lying.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Now I have proof, it's documented history that I was locked up with R Kelly.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I have a lawsuit with him.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: A part of the lawsuit from when we was in MCC Chicago together between 2019 and 2021.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Now this guy was locked up with R Kelly and got a lot of information.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Now this is the crazy part, because you know there are a lot of people going on podcasts saying shit.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: But how we decipher who we're going to listen to, who might be credible, who credible, who not?
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: You know, we all have our ways.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: But one thing that pointed me to this interview which is brand new you heard his name ronnie is the fbi.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: There are claims that the fbi told him that someone was trying to kill him and he's claiming that somebody in the FBI told him he was shot at.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: He was shot at the person you just heard talking.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: He was shot at and he's claiming that the FBI somehow insinuated or told him that tata had something to do with it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Now, if you don't know who tata is, tata is jay-z's right hand man, meaning he's been with jay-z since the beginning.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: He doesn't rap, he doesn't do anything.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: He's been with Jay-Z since the beginning.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: He doesn't rap, he doesn't do anything, he's just a friend.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And so this guy, ronnie, has been.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: This interview was about an hour, a little over an hour long, but he talks about Jay-Z and R Kelly.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: He talked about how, basically, jay-z's doing the same shit R Kelly is doing.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: That's in so many words.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: You got to go listen to the interview itself.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to break down the whole interview tomorrow on my show, but whether you believe what he's saying or not, it's definitely a good interview that you probably need to check out.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Nobody's talking against this guy, like he even said.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: R Kelly hasn't called him a liar.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: He's been shot at, apparently, and it's just a lot of smoke.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And what we always say on this show where there's a lot of smoke, there's a lot of fire.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: And I don't like it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about that Jay-Z uh tomorrow.
• 46:06
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• 46:36
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• 46:39
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• 46:43
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• 46:51
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• 47:54
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• 47:58
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• 48:00
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• 48:04
  Speaker 1: And for anybody else, if you can, don't, don't hesitate to subscribe now, real quick, before I get out of here.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Things that we're gonna have to that, that are going on, that we need to pay attention to uh, they are coming up.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: They are looking, uh, doing a constitutional amendment that will allow presidents to seek a third term, but they are also putting a clause in that amendment where that would, but obama, bill clinton, those type of people can't can't run again, but it will leave room for trump to run again.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Y'all need to look into that and if you're against it, stand up.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: If you're with it, then there it is.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Check it out.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: But definitely these are things that I think are getting snuck up under the radar, that people aren't either missing because there's so much other shit going on.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: But we need to pay attention to another crazy thing I want y'all to pay attention to before I get out of here.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Uh, they have just found a ufo moving fast as fuck underwater and it's huge.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And this is from congress, this is real news.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Go look it up.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go into it, just like it's one of those stories that's like why the fuck?
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: You know you have certain stories that make you say, why the fuck am nobody talking about this shit?
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: And so that's one of them.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Like why is nobody talking about these UFOs that they're really talking about on real news.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: That's supposed to be underwater, big as hell, moving fast as hell.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know what the hell going on with it, but if I see shit that I think y'all need to look into, I'm gonna let y'all know.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: And also, one of my devoted listeners had something they want to share about the Chris Brown lawsuit.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I covered that on Friday.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: It's very, very touchy situation, but there's quite a few people who want to speak out for Chris Brown and I'm going to read one of them in the fan mail.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: And again, I encourage you all whether you agree with what I'm saying, disagree with what I'm saying on a certain segment, whatever, please express yourself on the fan mail or DM me directly.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I love different opinions and different takes.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I hear my own takes all day long.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Trust me, I like hearing what y'all have to say.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: So I'm not one of those podcasters or influencers that if you're not exactly saying what you think I'm saying or think I agree with that, you gotta you can't share it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I love hearing both sides, three sides of this coin, or both sides of the coin.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: So now that I didn't even have an um opinion on the chris brown situation, I just told the story of what was going on.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: But here's someone who wants to speak out for Chris Brown.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know the person name, but they're from Anaheim, california, and they say regarding the Chris Brown lawsuit, I believe he is old money.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: The accuser was proved to be a liar.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: He had text message from text messages from her begging him to come see her again and and also that he was the best d she ever had.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: She got mad because he didn't call her back.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: They can't get over the the rihanna situation, but she forgave him.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: They put out music together after that incident and he never denied the allegations, admitted his guilt and did his time.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: If he was in the wrong, he did his time.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: If he was in the wrong, I don't think he would file such a lawsuit.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: If he was wrong, he also said he would donate a large portion of the money to the victims of domestic violence.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: So I had a couple uh messages like that and I appreciate y'all sharing your thoughts.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Anybody else, feel free.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Like I said before, I love hearing everybody.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: That's what this show is about.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Everybody has a voice.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I'm using my voice to to give y'all a voice.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm gonna say it again you don't ever have to worry.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: All I care about is when you message.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I hate people that just message and go crazy and out of control and cussing and doing like I'm not.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I ain't here for that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: But if you, you can tell me whatever you want to tell me, as long as it's respectful and from and coming from a good place.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: You can tell me anything and if I have a chance to share it on my show, I will.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Tabitha Brown and other black owned brands who are saying that they don't want blacks, minorities, women and all of that to boycott Target and Walmart because it's going to affect their pockets.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: And people are boycotting them because of the DEI, that they're dropping their diversity programs.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: But then they're dropping their diversity programs, but then there are now a lot of minorities that are speaking out saying that if you do that, it's going to hurt us.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: So that's a situation where I'm still I stand with the people who are boycotting because my thing is nine times out, with the people who are boycotting because my thing is nine times out of 10, the people boycotting are in a worse position than whoever this entrepreneur, the person who owns this business that will be affected.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: But I have to be honest, I can see their side too.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: So I think, as a people, we all need to pay attention to what's going on and see if we can come up with an effective way to show our show, our support for the minorities, for the women, for the black and brown community.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: So those things I want you to pay attention to.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to hold y'all too much longer on the flow show no filter.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: We about to get out of here.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: See y'all tomorrow, same time, eight ish.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: As always, I love y'all and I'm out.