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Construcción Plural - Programa 1159 · Construcción Plural - Radio Trend Topic

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Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts listen
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to it on radio train topic. Our President was born in Argentina, Dr
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Rabiero Mirey was president Hello. Everyone. There is no stabilization plan, not
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good, but the delay to change. There' s a problem with currency
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exchange here. It is impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the twenty-
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four thousand. Good. It' s very little motasiada. There is already
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a lot of equatoria, but you are not liberal. There were taxes as
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the province did not, but it was known one more three hundred and sixty
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- five times and gives me three hundred and sixty s cannot Urania. If
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there' s no video and there' s no one who invited me to
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be a federo your Cotuk noodle. They want to know how the economy is
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going to grow, it' s going to go up like fart bus,
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but there' s no anchor. Well, because there' s no comprehensive
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plan. But you should set the path. This is not a liberal government
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because it did not release the drug. Not because there' s a changed
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appreciation. There' s appreciation change but freedom so fucking my friends prominate to
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be. It is a nine week start here in plural construction, with the
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stand- up presentation of our intergalactic leader. And why not Nobel Peace Prize
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we' ll see or economy we' ll see one thousand three hundred sixty.
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The light continues to rise two twenty- six. Today, with Liqui
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under a little bit, two thousand three hundred eleven. The lu is above
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all the financiers. The MEP reaches one thousand three hundred thousand ninety- eight,
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which recopadi semen has equal one thousand four forty the crisis is recorded in
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asynder title infoba and here in the middle afternoon there will be suspensions of employees
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in four of the last six months of the year. The Ucwar and the
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Miguel Pichetto bloc will block the Government' s intention to prioritize in the Argentine
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Unions. Then it will be sent by the government separately. Later this my
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case, they praise why they put prisoners for cover- up to the People
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' s Commissar who is saying, as Infobae said, to this opening the
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afternoon here in plural construction, summarizes them a little bit the days. The
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free dollar goes up to one thousand three hundred sixty for sale and sets the
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new record. We went from there to TV signals, wired news. Let
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' s see what you' re marking on Tén' s screen so far,
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with just ten degrees, it' s very cool and the weekend comes
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fresher even with a maybe minimum degree, is saying the Weather Service on Saturday
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morning. Well, everyone with this unfortunate fact of this boy' s disappearance
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is the table of the last urgent loban lunch. This is enter in America
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twenty- four to see if they all loban coveness and log operatives and sinister
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clues twelve days of urgent search. Everyone is with urgent, as the urgent
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last moment is manipulated in news cannes. I' ve already told you and
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you' ve made some criticism at some point about that. Same thing from
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9th of July. Corrientes a restencia chaco el camino loan el gro en a
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thousand three hundred sixty. That' s it' s zincun that puts down
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right in grapt one thousand three hundred sixty, the Blue dollar returns in those
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days where you jatidically start to put the Brooke dollar. They' re all
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suspects. Twelve days from now, they' re looking for loan for 12
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hours and he' s got a count of a count but only TV in
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everything exaggerates. Twelve hours, fourteen s three of this boy' s disappearance
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twelve hours. They last twelve days, fourteen hours, three minutes, channel
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twenty- six. Now, if it was a sunstar, it' s
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with internationals, it' s not advertising and he was born more ratifying the
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ten degrees I told you are also advertising. Well, I' ve got
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him online to see if this man is close to receiving any kind of Economics
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Nobel of anything. Don Alejandro ask you, my friend, good afternoon,
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how you are doing, how you are listening. Yeah, yeah, I
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hear it perfect. You listen well to me. Yeah, yeah, well,
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well, you' re about to get yourself or Nobel. My lay
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an Argentine Nobel. He' s close to heading for some kind of Nobel.
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I don' t know the Nobel, what I know about the curueldad
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of anything, because we' re close to some Nobel or far away.
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But have no doubt, for there has been much depreciation of the Nobels.
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I guess this year they' re going to split like fifteen zero or twenty
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zero all the economy no, so it wouldn' t be weird if any
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of them hit you price like fifteen zero what do you know that number?
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Nothing, a number twenty, so Miley can win, that he can get
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one and they' ll split one. It just gets hard. We don
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' t have to take it to the joke. It' s either one
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more racket, or it' s a gout attack. How we should take
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it from our President speaking abroad, in this case, in the Czech Republic,
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is beautiful Prague. The issue is very unpleasant, not because I was
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with the official with the President of Prague or the Czech Republic and there is
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that thing that must have generated a unanimous tent of all some countries of Europe.
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He takes seriously what it' s like to be a Nobel premier.
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Of course, the world, moreover, is not seen by a fact,
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it is seen by a letter. The story doesn' t have any.
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He doesn' t have any trajectory, he doesn' t have any academic
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intellectual leadership, which is no. I don' t think he does.
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He agrees with you, he never showed it, and if he has it,
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he' s such a secret, he' s a great theorist.
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No, that' s part of the problem, but also that he'
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s applying recipes that in theory they should give if there' s an average
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of whether two people eat two chickens, but he' s never going to
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understand that maybe the rich guy ate two and the poor guy didn' t
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eat any. No. That' s part of the trouble he' s
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got. He makes him a see has me restless for a while and I
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' ve been finding out to see tell me he' s a good mathematician.
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Who King of Raydel, no, not him, my law not Raydel.
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You speak very well with mathematicians, but good to see Miley is a
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good mathematician? Yeah, he' s a good mathematician, but textually,
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a fellow of him triumphs great that he' s a good economics mathematician.
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You don' t understand anything. It is one thing to make a model,
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a theoretical model where there are supposed to be different crowds, a multitude
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of plaintiffs, that there is nothing to worry about the possibility of information.
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Then, in that model things behave in some predictable way. Reality is not
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that. The economy has a lot to do with it, it' s
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a social science, it' s not good, but you, I think
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you' re company and it has to do with an already very sick level
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of gy, level of forgiveness that was based under the egolatry sound to see
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when you got the prize, as it' s called in Germany. Yeah,
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it' s a very long speech that I took the job of hearing
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it all together. Integer spoke as if he were or Juan Jaime, inventor
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of the atomic bomb. He criticized all the poor Germans for what their intellectual
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trajectory has been like, how it had first been such positions as the poit
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He realized as if he had any interest in seeing how he came to the
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conclusions he came upon after reading Ronpa. It was very remarkable. Very remarkable
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because listeners, of course, know him as a divulgator of some woe theories
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in, but never as a creator of even as a creator of a theory
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of that level. He is a director and divulgator, which is consistent with
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his ability to mathematics. Pure mathematics has that flaw. He has more heads
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than he understands little. Miley' s trips abroad are tested or more private.
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They pay to the Argentine brand, pay to the investments or pay to
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the Miley brand. And it' s obvious that all he' s doing
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is doing that campaign for him wants to be famous and for what I know,
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so that everyone can' t say it can' t be for divulgator,
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it can be to sell, to sell more books or conferences abroad tomorrow,
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when there' s that the Presidency is hard enough to understand what he
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' s saying, so that you can also understand what you want to be.
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He apparently wants to be recognized as a theorist. For now he just
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wants to be recognized as theoretician, which is weird. He is not a
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minister who comes to change, he is not a President who comes to change
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the reality of the Argentine. It is a president, it is the Argentine
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reality to make known determined at the level of his how it would be of
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his ramblings that now nothing more, It is more why you want to transact
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him abroad to see the Milay brand for calling them. It' s a
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global phenomenon. She' s almost campaigning. He' s being talked about
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in Mexico, in China, in the United States. To see it is
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spoken of by the striking, it is spoken well in positive, it is
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spoken well by the mischievous. He came to President, which is not small,
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not all the time. He came to President given the shortcomings of at
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least the three interior governments, of course Cristina, of Alberto' s sea.
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In fact, the credit that I came to President would have to be
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kept by others who did not want to. That' s what it always
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happens for. No Mauri Isomacri may have become President by disasters the quinenimos and
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so it is not often voted against. Not because a boot before the previous
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one is not right. It' s okay. Let' s give him
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that right, at least he' s going to sea that right at least.
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As he did a very original thing and used a lot, it'
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s called networks, that is, the remains of political leaders are so primitive
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that they didn' t even know they existed. Most people didn' t
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know it existed. He' s the only one who addressed the kids,
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not the only contact that many kids in this country had with some official,
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with some candidate, was him and he said the others were clowns. I
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was fucking with them. He did all that and he was struck by the
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problem. It was a good idea. It is true that the alternatives were
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good. Let' s recognize that no yes, totally, totally, totally,
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really wasn' t good. From the background. They weren' t
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good in the Challenge case, not Masay Bulry' s case. I understand
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that better in the Challenge, although I didn' t even vote for it.
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But of course I said it seemed more moderate than perhaps and it was
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too moderate, but what opinion did you have just talking about selecting the man
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who was left out of the way, let' s say the Challenge opposition.
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I liked the things I said and they told me very bad about him.
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So I don' t have any more proformation for some reason won him
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the Patrick Burriche is worse than him. Well, Batricia beat Burry for the
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extreme game. I don' t say in extreme Argentina it went between the
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moderate and the extreme. Burris was voted on the linterne zapaso just for the
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change and then, placed on the right between Burrich and Milay, he threw
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himself again extreme. I bounced back to Milay. Bunrich won' t get
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off. On the other hand. On the other hand, he offered no
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major change and it is clear that he wanted to generate something in return and
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he offered no change. He offered to continue the same, to fix everything
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is to modify a little. I don' t think so. Yes,
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Argentina is such a fragmented country that what needs to be done is a coalition
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government or something. You have to negotiate or you can try to break everything
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because it doesn' t go how to do that. Finally, after a
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bad experience of my law that lasts four years or maybe less, what falls
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to make a kind of coalition government the dual of Alfonsín. In fact,
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that is the crisis similar to the crisis of two thousand, two thousand one.
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Let' s say that code that inexorably has not been agreed and in
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an emergency, a new emergency. Yeah, now it' s okay between
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the kis and they pujaed it, they wore part of the pro- pichetes
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and company. I wish, I took part in an earlier experience that was
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called after the dictatorship departures. I participated in the game thing a band later,
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indeed, was not followed with that dual idea. He had an obligation
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to do it later with ar with himself. Sounds good to me. What
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happens is that what comes before me is also to change politics. Well,
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not just politics, but politics in particular, and I know a lot about
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that. There are very few who save themselves from the ways of doing politics,
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from managing and all the ways of doing politics, objectives, the means,
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all, all, much, let' s say, the pain of
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pansa is involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The last talk we had
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remember and that was very interesting, we agreed that this came from the French
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right. We can in Spain the caste, the caste, the caste,
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or I think that no more than the said phrase was peppered cricket in Italy,
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this of the caste and that we talk to you and we agree that
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it focuses on the caste only in the political caste. There is no talk
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of the business caste, little about the trade union, little about the journalist,
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this about the media, etcetera, etcetera. Now I say and you
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' re saying. You' re X- raying a lot. It has
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to see what happens to the milay phenomenon with indeed, how this policy has
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behaved. People you' ve lived in. People are right to question all
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this in general. There' s a lot of corruption in the way you
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lived inside. Let' s say this you' re saying a little bit,
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not how you' re saying. Yeah, exactly how you' re
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saying. I have seen that in general, in the political class, which
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was the most elegant word said yes, there is too much concern about how
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things seem, but how they are. Then there was a speech in the
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2, 000 where he said that yes such a guy does not give any
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gefest. I don' t remember fighting with but if what' s missing
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isn' t produce, well, I didn' t see behavior gestures.
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I saw concern for serge everyone, apparently, who they aren' t.
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As those middle classes are questioned in the time of ureche they want to be
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what they are not. Then everyone wants to be what they' re not
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to be voted for. The problem is that people help us. It doesn
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' t help us there and it' s very difficult for me to help.
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Let' s say. It seems to me that there is a need
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for a revolution in Argentitina, a serious cultural revolution, where I was in
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meetings with Peronist leaders, many radical leaders as well. And the fundamental concern
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is the charges, with exceptions, with exceptions that out there are important.
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The charges are important, we leave for the others. Well, the call
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for today makes this interesting to me. In first introduction it has to your
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experience, even within the policy that you are already largely retired. You have
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to do with the issue of the cassation failure, with the subject cause notebooks,
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that we would remember the listeners knew last week that it can practically begin
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to slip through one, a family member of macrifia to the cater or entrepreneur,
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with the excuse that it does not coime va cisneristas officials in this case,
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but that they were illegal contributions, contributions not registered that will have a
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lesser sanction and would pass to the smallest electoral justice, electoral contributions in the
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cassation chamber. Then acuangel local caterra of the trial for the coimas, something
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that can extend to other entrepreneurs and also on the other side, showed to
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officials holding that the disbursements, that is, the little money put by the
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entrepreneur, in this case with Laglaterra, must be invented as declared campaign contributions
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and not as coimas reading by Alejandro Pairú. My reading does, which is
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yet another example of the corruption of very broad sectors of society. That straw
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is absurd. There is a law in Argentina that regulates campaign contributions. If
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I' m not mistaken on 26th two hundred and fifteen. Of course,
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you can' t make cash contributions, you can' t make them in
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any way, you can' t recommend it any and you can' t
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be given in exchange for a work or the concession of the public servile.
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Obviously not. So, that' s it. Let' s say there
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is a tradition in the Argentinian Italian Spanish committee. It is also that some
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officials, with fear or shame, ask for politics and, in fact,
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it was not for politics. It was for them in manipolitis You remember what
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manipuliti is in Italy. Yeah, yeah, clean hands. Yeah, yeah,
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clean hands and so many people. At one point the Italian government arrived,
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took the decision to declare taxativo that there was no possibility of asking for
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money for politics, with which Covidma' s requests fell much less than half,
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because the officials saw each other, they were forced Jaimero, they lived
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forced to say it was for them. So saying it was for them is
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not the same as saying give me for the campaign. Yes, that was
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a positive result in Italy, in Argentina, I tell you to see,
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Undersecretary, in the province of Buenos Aires forty years. Fifty years you were
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his secret in forty- year- old provinces, yes, you were also
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a legislator. Let' s remember lecente Yes, yes, I' m
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a coder the last time I was in public works with a chapter. For
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the worse, yes. In the first month a couple of entrepreneurs arrived to
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offer a silver for politics, for a work in forgiveness. Sorry. That
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' s the usual. Not because there' s a go and go don
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' t punch them sometimes. I have no prejudice. Above all, the
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victim' s employer is put in a hurry. This same Milay did not
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say good the entrepreneur and victim has to pay coimas because they force it and
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sometimes a little seems so. It' s not like that. Sometimes it
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' s the entrepreneur who comes first before forcing him asks him, he forces
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him, he presses him, because if he' s not going to get
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such a thing out, I hear it, that' s what I'
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m telling you. No. I never asked anyone for money and my own
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experiences that came to me to offer and to pressure me. No, of
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course, now that you' re doing maybe I don' t believe there
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' s here, there' s, there' s all the issues.
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Yes, yes, because there may be a very pro- active official on
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one productive side of the other. Yeah, for corruption. Yeah, yeah,
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of course not, it' s got nothing to do with it.
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But there' s silver, there' s silver that' s going to
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parallga parias. But in silver it goes for the politician' s pocket.
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The two things, right, for both things, for both. Yeah,
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why don' t we just say here. Each case is different and as
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in the notebooks. There was talk of ninety bags with lolars. It is
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impossible to know whether the nineties were for such a subject or for heel.
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The truth. The truth is, there' s no chance. I'
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m going to say it very rudely. The truth is that there is no
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possibility that decent games will interpret that all that was for the campaign. I
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' m not doubting the judges' honorability and I don' t, yes,
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yes, yes, I didn' t do anything to doubt. On
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the contrary, you do not hesitate to question directly. Well, you'
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re gonna sign that they can' t say that you can see there'
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s a case. I am not arguing that in any case it was indeed
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a prete of God, an official. But anyway, it' s not
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for the campaign, because there are legal requirements for it to be for the
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campaign. He doesn' t get it. Anyone doesn' t get it.
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In cash, then how do you do it would have the judge have
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to prove they were for the campaign. You can' t suppose, but
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they' re for the campaign. And even if the electoral judge says yes,
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I accept that the investigation should have been an investigator, went or,
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would have to be investigated together. I didn' t play, no,
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I don' t want you to. Yeah. Here is something that one
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cannot ignore Alejandro, which is the role that a talcunio Olivarona has played as
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a defender of other entrepreneurs, also of the Reckeane family, and that I,
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with this same theory, could not finally apply to him. Let us
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remember with this cause appear from Pescarmona to the Techin group, Rochio cartels as
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we said Catarrajal, etcetera, etcetera. He is involved, as I say
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a talcunio le Varora who is not for any reason the Minister of Justice today
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of Javier Millay, who encouraged this theory. Nothing good. They were campaign
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contributions and one another. It can be believed that the truth that impunity plays
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from schisnerism, that in this case it was the one that was the other
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counter as civil servant to macrism or not everything, but a good part that
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is related to several, to Calcaterra or others and to the mileism in the
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case of Julio and the Varola, that, on the other hand, the
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truth has not been made any granola on his figure. He has not been
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asked to resign, i e because the one who had this theory reiterated that
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he had another role. Yeah, you' re still doing a lot of
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work myself including a thousand there that have been company officials who have been built
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on the basis of tremendous bribes and bribes. This is a good fact.
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The Renquean group, where my law comes from, both official Nia rock,
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would never have gotten where it arrived, which did an important thing of empion
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without offering to sweeten his hands a lot of people who have laid hands as
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to see let' s get things clear and with the last name man as
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far as you want. Te chint is where it is, despite coimas or
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things, that is to say for the tail or coibas. What it looks
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like you just let in. For the first time, the rock family has
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merit is to build a seamless tube factory with schools for the workers of John
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Campan. Nor is there any doubt that the rock family has received infinite number
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of fabors from space. Nor is there any doubt, because I personally know
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that the family threaded during the management of the rúa tried to rock it through
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a manager. This means that the President of the House, the construction,
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the public works will be granted only to members of the House to quote more
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expensively. He actually knows me. I had a problem. I' m
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fighting with it. I kept tramputating ten more years and surely now you'
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re also talking about seeing. You' re talking about public relationship. You
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' re talking about public relationship. Bernaza will not be like the general manager,
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the President of the Argentine Chamber of Reconstruction. I don' t remember.
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I ok ok ok ok, you' re not the direct operator.
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Yes yes, yes, it is a multimillionaire like Rock does not deal with
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details, but a significant one or operations, like that all public works are
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granted restricted to the Argentine Chamber the construction, of course it has to be
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before. Obviously, of course Minister Gallo was also on the lookout. Minister
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Nicolás Gallo was aware of that co- operator. He was a fighter to
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restrict bidding to his own that only the rock group had a monopoly. No.
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No, no, to the Chamber of Construction, to the Argentine Chamber.
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The construction of the band of the Argentine Chamber, which all participated,
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but also clarified some things were shared. Yeah, that' s clear.
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Yeah, some kind of oligopoly, yeah, yeah, but more. I
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know a discussion between construction entrepreneurs. Some salus mine who said we do not
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want to dedicate ourselves to private construction, to being building apartment always, but
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many times. But, moreover, the worst of all is that now,
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for many years now, that is, the problem is not of a government.
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Not to see, this goes through generations and is the usual gymnastics,
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not with Peronist, with radicals, with pros and with milists. I don
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' t have any personal records of that. Now you say, if you
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say, look said once the public work is the most outstanding demonstration of corruption
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with Argentina. That' s why it' s the root. Yeah,
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that' s why he took out the public works. I didn' t
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really want to spend on a public play pror girl skinny. You' re
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burning space. You said he didn' t want to break up, and
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then he used the excuse for corruption. Of course, if not you,
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don' t appoint Burnekian officials, civil servants to Calcaterra, Rocca' s,
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all of them in public office. Made a common sense that they were
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involved in corruption, they worked out in no reasonable time, but they were
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involved in corrupting the chain. They' ve been involved that they' re
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enough for ends like if there' s a problem, they have to end
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up frisking in favor. It' s eighty- nine bags of dollars,
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what you see and seventy- one billion dollars. Hia was the amount of
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sixty- nine thousand. How up to the milc government How is I gonero
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to be exonerated in the youth who are reported with ten- second video on
30:03
tik Tok. How it does to generate, to exonerate the issue that it
30:07
is somehow governed by pulling for the business side. He what I say calls
30:11
it heroes, that is, he doesn' t throw parallel laburante that,
30:15
obviously, if inflation goes down he' s going to benefit also the lower
30:18
one, For starters, the tea down, but how he' s going
30:22
to not get stuck to what really a little is that it' s the
30:25
business caste and financial caste, because this isn' t very settled, except
30:29
that it' s the group with the quinerists or communication of the left in
30:30
society. It' s not a little permeated that my law is actually a
30:33
representative of the business caste and the financial charter. What I' m going
30:37
through with digital about the Hornikians and so on. As a sun sexer for
30:41
now, because it' s more than that, and he has an alliance
30:45
with these sectors. I would not say that he represents this group lets many
30:55
business groups do. He doesn' t fight them. He believes that if
31:00
the broadcast is cut, he must believe that if the mission is cut,
31:03
inflation will end and the inflection will end. It ends in a lot of
31:07
slips. But it' s not true. It' s not true.
31:12
In the 1930s there was a group of very package ministers who participated in the
31:19
privatization of the CHADE trout is called in nineteen hundred and thirty. One of
31:27
the ministers involved was called Federigo Pinedo, No, for which he is not
31:34
responsible. It' s not familiar to us. Obviously, yes, but
31:40
then there is a long victory in Argentina to use everything you can to make
31:45
a plan. The private sector also passes. I also know what to say.
31:56
I have a friend who was a purchasing manager of a big American company
32:00
and ended up reading because in the company they assumed that the shop manager was
32:07
very much poime and paid him too little. I couldn' t live with
32:10
the money they gave him and I didn' t want to try it.
32:15
So there' s a social problem. This is the revolution that' s
32:21
needed and that' s the style of what it says, but seriously and
32:27
you think you' re optimistic. Finally, and now with no time and
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we' re going to keep talking, obviously, but I say other days
32:35
you' re optimistic and how you see the end of this process that milay
32:38
thinks virtuous From the theory. You think it was, like, a different
32:42
session in the' 90s. It was the back of the fart, the
32:45
CGT and so on. But I say you think that for years this process
32:50
can endure being among successful quotation marks until it falls. People get disassembled and
32:54
for that it' s going to be a lot of time or not,
32:58
that or not, it' s going to sing in four years, well,
33:00
or it' s going to hatch before four years, in one year,
33:02
two years or six months. Don' t ask me questions that need
33:07
to be asked correctly answer clearly what your honesty is worth to them. The
33:16
Government is very unstable. It is obvious in all conflicts. It' s
33:22
full of individualities that want to be them who win, but macri with bullric
33:31
sturcioner with caputo otos and so I seat insane and the seconds that are thrown
33:42
out all the guys that leave. It is clear that the Government is unstable
33:46
I do not know what can happen in the future. Let' s say
33:50
if you put it your Ruzeneger, for example, caputo what you do,
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I don' t know what to tell you. On the other hand,
33:58
the international context also changes. He' s gonna win the ball of the
34:04
alleged right is in America. Good for my law. In theory, the
34:07
important thing is that Trump wins and that there are good winds, bottom funds,
34:13
etcetera, etcetera. The trumping of plots what or not and I'
34:19
m telling you Miley' s theory. Miley' s bet is my law
34:22
because he likes Trump more than the social democrats. However, no one can
34:30
swear that if the ball art trumple arrives. You don' t think,
34:37
I don' t know, I don' t know. They have in
34:39
common some fantasies, not all, uh trappe you don' t know a
34:49
nationalist p propectist or talk. Obviously, it' s not a market book.
34:52
It' s their function. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes,
34:53
of course, yes, and in fact, the Dominican government has been running
35:00
scandalously. All the scandalous employers' companies, I say, and that of
35:07
armament and arms prices and American remedies are very high. Let' s go
35:16
back. I' m firing you, but it can be successful for a
35:21
long time. We don' t go through the hatching, but it can
35:23
happen to him by saving him at a distance with half. I do not
35:25
know four adventurous years, even if later the political sign that you do not
35:30
or see it changes, the permanent instability in this management. I saw a
35:34
stability that is complicated by the instability of the opposition. If you have in
35:39
it in this position life. It' s the instability of positions, it
35:43
' s the division and total the handicap that my law has. No,
35:46
of course, well, but you have both. What are things, the
35:52
instability of my law and the eastroposito. Cristina Love, Yes, speaking of
36:00
everything, is one of the few governors who has very good reputation, at
36:07
that level, at the level of corruption. I don' t know any
36:12
concussions. There aren' t, there aren' t. It is said
36:15
that the theme Club de Paris and PF and so on has not been managed
36:19
by sea surely. But the term corruption is not what you want. Wrong
36:22
is all you want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
36:25
You like that if you' re leading him some kind of recanting opponent to
36:32
the future, you don' t dislike getting involved. Not good at leading
36:37
I put it to you because I say why not well, on a broad
36:45
front with part of the opposition and so on, I say hopefully well,
36:51
I hope, anyway, it will not see that I tell you a fact
36:55
of what it thinks. There' s not going to be a broad front
36:59
that' s wonderful, the transparent lilimpi, because it can' t,
37:06
because you can' t, because I can' t majority do that,
37:13
and who would those be knowing where, when you look at that you think
37:14
about who you think about. That would be person- by- person granary.
37:17
It doesn' t make sense ok ok a lot of people who aren
37:22
' t valuable. That certainly isn' t. And if Cristina Fernández is
37:25
part of that front somehow, at least pushing back and I know I don
37:29
' t, not virtuous wonderful. No doubt it won' t be even
37:32
if I don' t lead you' re really going to take out all
37:37
the Peronist governors, even the Mos. Not obviously, not obvious. Obviously
37:42
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37:47
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All right, all right, we' re fourteen to thirty- eight.
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Well, you know that the two, the two, what is that,
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on June 2 won the elections there, in Mexico, the candidate of
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Lopez speaker not Claudia Jaime Van, but will just assume and this will speak
39:15
well with us like Ferry Wolfanson at the beginning of October, the first of
39:20
October. If I' m not mistaken, they haven' t Gustavo,
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good afternoon, how' s it going. Good afternoon, Fernando, how
39:24
are you this weather? Not good, yeah, usually and I think it
39:30
' s a little bit more. I think it' s December. For
39:32
now you have certainly given me the date of my understanding that the first October
39:37
I now announce the dockers and governors, the first of October the President.
39:42
I think later, but you left me biting that. Now I check while
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speaking Rio Dale Dale well, we have very interesting come from a week.
39:54
Let' s say convulsed and convulsed because we were here all the southeast of
40:00
Mexico, tropical storms with highly rains that practically drowned the city of Cancun,
40:08
the capital city of Chetumal, which is practically the south of Mexico, where
40:15
it begins for some Mexico, which is the border with bedice a tropical storm
40:22
that tried to turn hurricane, but it deviated and there this curiously, the
40:30
news said that the epicenter was focused in a city of Veracruz, a nearby
40:37
province here called Ciudad Madero, but that historically, all the announcements that the
40:45
epicenter of the hurricane is going to fall in that city at the last moment
40:52
deviates. So there' s an old theory, let' s say citizen,
40:59
that there' s a base of aliens in the sea there, which
41:06
twenty- four hours does everything it can to divert, because in the present
41:10
century and in the last century they' ve never had. Let' s
41:15
say, a hurricane has always been diverted at that point. So it was
41:20
the comical news of the day. Then patience Mexico City last week, invited
41:23
by the Wilson Center, which is one of the most important SECTACGTS in the
41:29
United States. In his Mexican chapter he gathered some alternatives or comments on what
41:36
would be the future foreign policy line of the next government headed by Claudio Sherman.
41:45
I must admit that I came across a lot of surprises when I say
41:54
surprises because we take into account a little bit the foreign policy line if we
42:00
want to call it progressive or alliancist with progressive undemocratic countries that López Obrador has
42:07
had. Well, but at the same time I met practically the top of
42:13
the U S Republican Party, invited to that derelict with the instruction of Claudia
42:22
Llevan invited into Republicans, which left the current U S Ambassador in Mexico pretty
42:30
much unspoken and out of place. Evidently, a person of Democratic origin who
42:36
practically voted for his entire guest agenda, which brings us back to the fact
42:45
of the history of Mexican foreign policy. It cannot be of any ideology,
42:52
but narrowly pragmatic in front of the three thousand and five hundred kilometers of border
42:59
that it has with these United States and the reality that they think that the
43:05
future president or victorious of the electoral process of the United States is called Donald
43:14
RuMP, then it is already and curiously, we have spoken on several occasions
43:21
during the Trump administration with López Obrador was much more, if you want to
43:28
call it friendly than with the own one that it is having or has had
43:31
in these years with President Baylan. These are not contradictions, but, at
43:35
the same time, those realities of the real political that is so important,
43:42
especially because of the next event that will happen next year, which is the
43:52
ratification and re- update and renegotiation of the Free Trade Agreement of Canada,
43:59
the United States and Mexico, a few words, Lauraa Shaiman is opening the
44:09
umbrella against the characteristics with which the Treaty will be renegotiated and, of course,
44:16
they are already betting on winning horse and throwing bridges with the administration or
44:22
the next Republican administration. Several times we have also talked about things that I
44:30
confirmed in Mexico in this way, how far the legacy is, how far
44:36
the inheritance is and from what day self- determination begins. There we said
44:45
that the strongest process of López Obrador, with which the markets went a little
44:51
to destabilize. When he talks about destabilising, I' m talking about half
44:57
a point. No risk country of five hundred, six hundred points is say
45:05
the launch and war of López Obrador vis-à- vis the judiciary from
45:10
the appointment of judges by choice, etc, etc, which Claudia has ratified,
45:17
but under lighter conditions. He hasn' t determined yet. But your
45:23
position hasn' t been so aggressive. But what you did draw attention to
45:28
is once again catching an old concept slogan principle unwritten constitutional article that is called
45:42
effective suffering, not re- election. From the Mexican Revolution of the year
45:49
nineteen hundred and ten and after thirty years of a porphyriate of a totally dictatorial
45:54
regime. Well, the long revolution, let' s say, launches that
46:02
slogan, which was effective suffrage. Not re- election, where all candidates
46:07
had the right to stand, to a democratic option, to an electoral process,
46:13
but from there they could never be re- elected to any public office.
46:17
They could aspire to another, but not retain their own identity. In
46:22
other words, a president cannot be re- elected, a governor cannot be
46:25
re- elected, a mayor cannot be re- elected, a deputy could
46:31
not be re- elected and a senator could not be re- elected.
46:35
The constitutional reform of about ten years ago began to discuss and approved the re
46:39
- election of mowers, mayors and deputies. Not like that governors, let
46:46
alone municipal president. Well, today Claudia is tearing down that experience. Interestingly,
46:55
for some data that are drawn attention. It has been very rare for
47:06
municipal president, that is, mayor, to want to be re- elected
47:12
or to aspire to be re- elected, to succeed in the next period
47:15
through popular vote. I mean, I' d come back with the vera
47:19
to go back to the vera, let' s say I' d come
47:22
back to life, but I' d come back to life not necessarily because
47:24
of an imposition. Let' s say factual. ALET realized it didn'
47:29
t work either. It' s not funny one, that is, here
47:36
the mayors for three years. Well, then the general comment was practically very
47:43
little time to exercise a quartermaster, beyond that the first year is to put
47:49
together the waste left to him in the previous one and the third is to
47:53
leave his successor a little bit of activity. Not then, and it'
47:59
s true fact or. In fact, their own budget is exactly about sixteen
48:07
months, no more, no, that is, three years, fifteen months,
48:15
they are yours. The others are the heirs. If the others are
48:19
the ones you' re going to stop legacies, then the experience say good.
48:25
That' s why I need a new period. Interestingly electorally it has
48:30
failed, that is, all those who have generally wanted to be re-
48:39
elected because by the same fact let us say of the will of the nation
48:45
that not the one who arrives that people believe will be better. We have
48:50
a case there in disguise or many indefinite reflections. Well, it' s
48:54
indefinite. No, then, he' s practically cutting his first one.
49:00
He announced it publicly today. His first measures will now re- enact or
49:06
re- cut the whole issue of re- election mayors, deputies and senators.
49:13
The second point in this week, half a week, is already part
49:19
of your cabinet. Her cabinet said that every week is going to be four
49:25
or five appointments. The Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of Economy,
49:32
the Minister of Education and virtually the most key points were elected, leaving aside
49:39
the Ministry of the Interior, the Ministry of Science and Technology, to which
49:45
it is to be given. He' d come to be ours, the
49:47
little connave. Here that is called sonic, forgiveness, our conizeta, which
49:51
is called with azt and is of a scientific formation, is going to hierarchize
49:57
it much more co. López Obrador curiously as President Mille had cut off his
50:04
funds at the time, as he is already marking his little data And I
50:13
would tell you that the foreign policy line has designated José Ramón de las Fuentes,
50:19
who was the Ambassador of Mexico to the United States and the United Nations
50:27
and for approximately six years was rector of the National Autonomous University of Mexico.
50:31
We' re talking about a person who may have progressive ideas, he'
50:38
s not a type of left, but he' s already defined who'
50:45
s going to be his direct partner with the United States and Mexico' s
50:50
foreign policy. In other words, I believe that the only point you will
50:55
have to define, which, according to comments from certain sources, very close
51:01
to it, is the subject of the relationship with the Middle East. Let
51:05
' s not forget his Jewish condition. Israel has marked the court asking for
51:10
definitions. She hasn' t determined them yet, but I think it'
51:20
s Gustavo Ferrari' s position that I' m going to start taking it
51:25
on the basis of an agreement with the United States, because we also recognize
51:31
America' s position against it. At this moment there is a mental government
51:35
asking you to lower two or three changes to have a espation of negotiations.
51:39
So I think Claudia, rather than facing a position for or against, is
51:45
going to align a little bit with the decision she makes with the next American
51:50
government, good for America. First, in the selections we went through the
51:57
prescriptions are on November 5, this Thursday, Humanities, the first presidential debate
52:01
between ban after Tranvaiden, I confirm that Claudia assumes the first of October.
52:07
I checked it for several sources here by Dr Che and, on the other
52:12
hand, a couple of data to see that they are told a little bit
52:16
in the government of Mexico, in outgoing and incoming that gains trump I coincided
52:20
with that agnostic. You see him most likely over Baile. I think we
52:23
' re going to write it down in the first debate. And about the
52:30
winner who does not need PAMI' s assistance with the oxygen mask in what
52:38
sense we are in It is unpublished that two practically octagenary people are aspiring to
52:45
the president of a country. Not with the rhythms, notice what they do.
52:50
And I make a comment, a parenthesis. I had an interview for
52:54
a media outlet from Honduras on the subject of Latin America, on the role
53:00
of Central America and a correspondent for the White House of Salvadoran origin. He
53:06
commented precisely on this triangle that the United States wanted to form Guatemala, Honduras,
53:13
Costa Rica, El Salvador, with the theme of the Central American relationship,
53:19
which at the beginning of the Byden Administration had been assigned to the Vice
53:28
President this Harvis camila, and well, the comment of themselves. The failure
53:30
of that negotiation was good, but not necessarily and curiously, a failure not
53:37
to agree with American actors, but a failure due to the very management of
53:43
the Vice President to Camala. And that' s the result, notice that,
53:50
when the Administration goes up, it' s going to go on the
53:54
first woman Black Vice President a little bit all the ideal features to take an
54:05
example of being the first totally failed in everything it didn' t leave and
54:09
when blurring and why, why do you think it was franked, that it
54:14
' s always the thing that Bain' s succession could be her ri why
54:15
you think it happened. I think it' s a product. I don
54:19
' t think it was a product of saying internal corridor runs to see Mira.
54:27
I remember and I' m going to make a comment. I don
54:30
' t remember. We had a football team at the University called Democratic Campuchea.
54:38
Capuche. It wasn' t the time. We were all in foreign
54:44
policy. We had chosen that and we were terrible. I mean, we
54:50
lost three, four or five hits every game. But one day he introduces
54:55
us to a Moorish boy for tochon, he doesn' t play football,
55:02
and we put him in front center to scare the defense. Well, the
55:07
poor kid was more loggy than any piece of wood, but at least the
55:14
first few minutes of the game dragged the mark. We managed to make a
55:20
goal in our entire career. Not then. I think the Camara thing is
55:23
the same. I mean, we had the ideal character, the model.
55:29
Let' s say black woman, my first time young, the first time
55:35
was apt. For that I believe that in the management of vostro let'
55:37
s say it was a product I' m not going to call marketinero,
55:43
but yes of the circumstances. But it didn' t really reach the dimension
55:46
they were waiting for and, as you well say, it was practically preparing
55:52
the first woman for the presidency. Or no yes, exactly totally good.
55:57
And the other and the charges that I am going to appoint Claudia of charge
56:00
the assumption the first of October surprised me, but well, I do not
56:04
continue not to speak as you very far away in the politics of Mexicana and
56:07
day by day that Marcelo chupo like that, that was the case of truth,
56:13
ebra reads his internal contender who had a fight that good, that he
56:16
will have a charge. I understand it' s a lower average charge,
56:20
a little legal or explain to me to see no. No, I'
56:22
m not. For starters, I wouldn' t tell you that it'
56:25
s a minor position not ok is going to be Minister of Economy, Economy,
56:30
not Economy, Minister of Economy, not or doesn' t follow the
56:35
one that was or that it' s finance that was with another laborer that
56:37
of course you have to be heard what you' re doing and econoque.
56:38
So, well, the important one is the hacienda. No. The important
56:40
thing is to understand it leaves it to say to see everything I need.
56:45
Not to close the box, yeah, you know you opened the checkbook.
56:49
Well, now give me the chiquera closed, yes, no. And economics
56:53
is what he does. I' d come to be like a minister of
57:01
things, industry and commerce, well, that' s more than economy.
57:06
You' d say it' d be economic development. Well now why.
57:13
There are two points and the first fundamental and I return to the beginning of
57:19
our conversation. We have the ratification or renegotiation of the Free Trade Agreement with
57:24
the United States and Canada. He was chancellor your political campaign towards the presidency.
57:32
He handled it fundamentally in the relationship with the power groups, that is,
57:39
the business groups and the Mexican community settled in the United States, So
57:45
if it' s candica, of course, of course, the candicap is
57:51
to see me fix this to do the negotiation. If it' s a
57:55
charge for Claudia' s next six years of government, I' d say
58:00
no, but it' s a charge for the conjuncture. Yes, and
58:01
it' s a person who says that like Calzisher, in his relations with
58:07
the United States and Canada and the ratification of the First Let' s say
58:15
Treaty, let' s not forget that at first b has treated the book
58:17
El Roberto. Now it' s called the Mexico Treaty, United States Canada.
58:22
Well, from this, he handled all international politics. He knows the
58:28
actors, he knows the mechanisms, the interests of each and he is going
58:32
to be a highly functional person for Claudia who is affected are also bull s.
58:37
Yes, Mexican politics is pragmatic, very problematic. You' ve followed
58:44
them and you' re right. Well, we' re meeting tomorrow,
58:46
but to talk a little bit more about Argentine politics, okay tomorrow, a
58:50
little more than 4: 30. That way perfect deal and I' d
58:52
like to hook up tomorrow. Sorry it closes with what my predecessor spoke about
58:58
leadership. Abrazo Grande Gustavo Lson with whom we will meet Mania, in Mexico,
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here under construction plual. Thank you, Juan, thank you Silvia.
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See you tomorrow at 4: 00. Bybye,