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Is Power Prestige TV? (Featuring Chris Lamberth) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: You guys aren't going to have me back around. What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the four All Nerds Show.
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  Speaker 2: It's Shiboy dj Ben I mean aka Charlie Brownish Blart
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  Speaker 2: Bent buzz Out.
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  Speaker 1: She met the Man explaining Lebron Shane.
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  Speaker 2: Meet Milhouse, the Eisner Ward nominated author of Jimmy Hendrick
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  Speaker 2: Purple Hayes Boom Boom in the House tonight, and as always,
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  Speaker 2: I'm joined by.
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  Speaker 3: Tatiana King be granted to the Tech also known as
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  Speaker 3: Lorilla Brod Flex Luthor, Gucci Man, the Lorian, Tessarak Thompson
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  Speaker 3: doc Ockey, the Coldest Winter Soldier ever, Tatiana King, the Conqueror,
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  Speaker 3: and the King of the North.
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  Speaker 1: And we have.
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  Speaker 2: A very special guest joining us tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. It's Chris Lamberth aka Delta
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  Speaker 1: not So Slim aka black Will Livingston aka mister Magazine
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  Speaker 1: Dreams Deferred. I missed the second one, so that the
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  Speaker 1: Black Will Livingston is a reference to the Last of Us,
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  Speaker 1: which is okay, Ellie's joke book that she gets in
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the joke book, Okay, yeah, I know the joke,
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  Speaker 2: but she gets in the in the show too.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, we were actually off air.
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  Speaker 2: We well, as we welcome Chris to the show, we
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  Speaker 2: were actually distressing how I hate the Last of Us?
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  Speaker 1: Well you didn't say you hated it in pre production,
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  Speaker 1: then wow, I hate me on my first time on
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  Speaker 1: the show. This was a safe space.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, definitely it's not. That's what our comments are
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube are learning this week. It's definitely not. Definitely
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  Speaker 2: not a safe safe So on tik talking, I see y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Let me let y'all know, y'all can follow on four
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  Speaker 2: on her, but that shit is not a safe space.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I like you.
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  Speaker 3: I like the other two of the most the whole
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  Speaker 3: Dulton not so slim and all that other stuff. That
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  Speaker 3: that shit was fired. So obviously you've seen Sinners what
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  Speaker 3: you thought about it.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen Cinners twice and I saw it the second time.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to see it in seventy millimeter because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a movie nerd and Ryan Cougler is such an earnest dude,
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  Speaker 1: and he's also a nerd, So when he put out
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  Speaker 1: that Kodak YouTube video, I was like, okay, man, I
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  Speaker 1: got all right, man, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: see it in seventy milimeter like you wanted. And it
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  Speaker 1: was amazing. I knew that I was gonna see it
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  Speaker 1: when I saw the Trust, like, oh, Michael b Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Couger, I'm gonna see this. I wasn't expecting to.
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  Speaker 1: Just like that movie was the world building. That was
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  Speaker 1: a movie about people getting ready for a party, and
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  Speaker 1: vampires just happened to show up. That was like and
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  Speaker 1: to me they were an afterthought. It made me feel
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  Speaker 1: like when I first read August Wilson. And as a
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  Speaker 1: young actor, you kind of you grow up. You grow
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  Speaker 1: up doing Rogers and Hammerstein stuff like Sound of Music
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  Speaker 1: and doing all these cool plays and it's fun. But
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  Speaker 1: there's no black people in these shows. You know. I
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  Speaker 1: was in seven, I was in eighth grade and playing
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  Speaker 1: a black character, playing me being a black dude leading
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  Speaker 1: the von Trapp family out of Germany to get get
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  Speaker 1: away from the Nazis and the Sound of Music. You're
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  Speaker 1: you're back image. It's an image, and you're playing and
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  Speaker 1: you're and you're doing all this stuff. And it took
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  Speaker 1: me six seven eight years to get to college to
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  Speaker 1: understand August Wilson. I had Denzel and Wesley Snipes and
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  Speaker 1: Angela Bassett, all these great actors when I was growing up.
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  Speaker 1: But then it's like the theater looking at reading August Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: That guy sounds like my dad, that sounds like my uncle,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds like the guy at the barbershop. This is
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  Speaker 1: who I am. That's the same feeling I had when
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  Speaker 1: I saw Sinners. I was like, I know that guy,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I know Delta Slim, I know Cornbrook. I
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  Speaker 1: know these people and and these are like well rounded characters.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's vampires. Then there's the supernatural aspect of it,
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  Speaker 1: so that we've I don't know that we've really seen
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  Speaker 1: anything like that, and and that that has to be
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  Speaker 1: celebrated in cinema.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Chris, I'm not just wanting to ask you random questions,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, really, who the fuck are you?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 3: Because you just joined here, You just popped out on
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  Speaker 3: people like who is this guy?
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  Speaker 4: He tells peop who you are?
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  Speaker 1: That's a question that I try to figure out every
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  Speaker 1: day that I wake up. Who the fuck am I?
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm an I'm an actor and comedian
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  Speaker 1: and I have been I'm originally from the Maryland, Maryland,
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  Speaker 1: DC area from PG County, born in DC, raised in
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  Speaker 1: in PG County. I'm I've been act then since I
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  Speaker 1: was a kid. One of the biggest disappointments in my
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  Speaker 1: life was not getting cast on teen Summit and after legendary, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: legendary show. I made a Nonda Luis laugh in my audition,
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  Speaker 1: so that that's a that's a win to me, that's
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  Speaker 1: a win. But that that set me up for like,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't make me a villain, but it set me
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  Speaker 1: up in show business where you don't always get everything
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  Speaker 1: you auditioned for. But yeah, I've done some TV and film.
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  Speaker 1: I've been on Broadway. Didn't have any lines on that show,
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  Speaker 1: but I was on Broadway. And yeah, I'm I'm and
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  Speaker 1: I'm a comedian and I'm I'm filming my first comedy
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  Speaker 1: special and on June twenty seventh at Caveat in New
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  Speaker 1: York City, seven o'clock, nine to thirty show Nice, I got,
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  Speaker 1: I got these jokes I got. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying. And I'm better than Will Livingston, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of nice. I'm nice with it, and I
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  Speaker 1: think I think you I think people, if you come
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  Speaker 1: to the show, I think you'll have a great time
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  Speaker 1: and you'll you'll you'll find you'll find that, uh, I've
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  Speaker 1: got bars as they I don't even think people say
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  Speaker 1: that anymore. Jesus, I'm old, but still but still cool.
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  Speaker 3: People still say that you still okay, it's fine, Well
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  Speaker 3: that's cool that you're from PG County.
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  Speaker 4: That you said the area.
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  Speaker 3: We both went to Howard University, so we know the
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  Speaker 3: area the area very well.
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  Speaker 1: I make you really sad. I went to school with
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  Speaker 1: a number. Oh you did, yeah, man, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I got to know her like oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And that's even And the way you said that, I
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  Speaker 1: really believe it because like beautiful woman you know that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that was because like I got to know her.
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  Speaker 2: She graduated like my freshman year, but I got to
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  Speaker 2: know her like like the second half of my freshman year,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like I could not believe how cool
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  Speaker 2: she was, for you know, how stunny you know she is? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but no, she's super chill man. One of each other
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  Speaker 2: is like, yeah, I love Ananda, like okay.
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  Speaker 4: Like the Memories of Ananda. That's gonna be this episode.
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  Speaker 3: Well we came together because there has been a lot
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  Speaker 3: a lot of trailers that have come out. There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of movies coming out, and we just definitely wanted
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  Speaker 3: to talk through them with you to see how you
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  Speaker 3: felt to see again, like, is this something you've been
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to, something you think is trash and even
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  Speaker 3: though this has been out, will the trailers have been
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  Speaker 3: out for a while something that we're super looking forward to.
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  Speaker 3: It's fantastic for I don't know if you can see
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  Speaker 3: Bename's background, but there are a lot of instances of
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  Speaker 3: Galactics back there, and Galactus, as we know, will be
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  Speaker 3: appearing in what capacity we don't know, but we know
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  Speaker 3: he's there.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how much of a comic pressure you are, but.
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  Speaker 1: Now I liked I've seen every Marvel movie since Iron Man,
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  Speaker 1: and I have a couple of action figures I have.
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  Speaker 1: I have a Kang the Conqueror. This is he's on
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  Speaker 1: my desk. That's a rarity now, and this is well
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  Speaker 1: he's probably the black one. And this is this is uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got him too. I picked up two
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  Speaker 1: of him just in case you.
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  Speaker 4: Did right, you did right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I got I got these and he these
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  Speaker 1: are just kind of on my desk, but I kind
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  Speaker 1: of I have a bunch of you know what got
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  Speaker 1: me into it sidebar, It was when it's the young
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  Speaker 1: brother who played Finn in uh Star Wars. So when
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  Speaker 1: he got cast as Finn, everybody was all excited. And
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  Speaker 1: then and then I started getting like some of the
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  Speaker 1: action figures because I get when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 1: I loved them. It's kind of sprawled into like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the black characters. And then like the black
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  Speaker 1: Panther action figure kind of got me back in and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I need to stop. So I've kind
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  Speaker 1: of kind of chilled.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have.
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  Speaker 1: To costs a lot. And then when women come over,
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  Speaker 1: they're like you all right because I'm dating, I broke
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  Speaker 1: up with my ex. We've been, we've whatever. So she
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  Speaker 1: came over sart Man, the life things could be.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a safe space, but you want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember it's almost like it's like the forty
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  Speaker 1: year old Virgin where he where he had all of
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  Speaker 1: his action figures. Like one woman who I was out
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  Speaker 1: on a date with and I had gone to this
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  Speaker 1: toy fair and it was my first time going to
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  Speaker 1: a toy fair. She's like, what did you do this weekend?
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  Speaker 1: So I went to get something to eat, I did
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  Speaker 1: some shows, and then I went to this toy fair
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  Speaker 1: in Parsipany in New Jersey and I collect sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: collect action figures, and she said, yeah, that clocks. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, well then she wasn't the woman from me.
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  Speaker 4: Nah, no, no at all.
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  Speaker 3: And you mentioned you mentioned I got him, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I that one for the same reasons y'all did.
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  Speaker 4: That's sad? Why we getting We're like, just in case
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  Speaker 4: this never happens again.
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  Speaker 2: No, I got what's his name? He who remained? Because
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  Speaker 2: I know it's never gonna happen.
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  Speaker 4: Never even had that thought. And I had, like, we
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  Speaker 4: ain't never gonna see it, like I have like Captain America.
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  Speaker 4: I have one what's his face? Just got named Captain America.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that falcon, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, I got all that ship man.
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  Speaker 2: See those are cool. But no, we know what's his name?
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  Speaker 2: It's not returning it was. He was so good in
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  Speaker 2: magazine Dreams.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, did you see that, Ben, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think you seen it.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it that. Yeah, the first week it was out.
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  Speaker 1: Is it out?
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  Speaker 4: It's been out.
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  Speaker 1: It's on vod Now, yeah, last month. Yeah, it's like
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  Speaker 1: late late March.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was March, like last night was April
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  Speaker 3: came out late March, yeah, Sam.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to god, I thought it was like coming
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: out later this because I know that, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: first time when it was supposed to come out, it
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be his.
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  Speaker 1: Oscar movie, and they were like pushing a for awards.
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  Speaker 2: So that being said, I figured they would dropping around November,
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  Speaker 2: like both Oscar movies, and I've seen posters thinking that,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, a poster meaning you know,
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  Speaker 2: November and no, okay, So.
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  Speaker 1: I was as as an AMC A list member. I
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  Speaker 1: was pleasantly surprised that it was playing in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of theaters, so I was happy about that so I
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  Speaker 1: could pick and choose where I wanted to go. But
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  Speaker 1: I thought I had issues with the script. But overall,
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  Speaker 1: that performance, I don't think we've ever seen I've never
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  Speaker 1: seen a black, black actor get to do some of
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  Speaker 1: the things that he did, Like it was it was
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  Speaker 1: a tour de force. You know. I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 1: condoning his his outside life, you know, And I think
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  Speaker 1: he if it feels like he's on the path. As
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  Speaker 1: I said that the action figure fell, but as I said,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, but I just I don't think we've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen anything like that, and we don't. You you kind
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  Speaker 1: of get to see like white actors get to be
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  Speaker 1: kind of silly or be off, or be on the
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: spectrum or you know, neuro divergent, and then some of
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: those moments you saw Tatiana, right, m m oh no, okay,
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: you should. You could homework nerds, do some homework for that.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, it's it's good, it's it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: a terrific performance. I love I loved it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair.
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  Speaker 3: I guess you're not seeing Fantastic four because we diverged
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  Speaker 3: from the question.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, like that shit, that's your boy.
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  Speaker 1: It seems it seems like it's a it's I like Thunderbolts,
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  Speaker 1: not as much as everybody else, but I did like it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was solid, and I think Florence Pugh
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  Speaker 1: held it together. Yeah, it seems like it's it seems
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  Speaker 1: like it's like a return to form, uh for the
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  Speaker 1: m c U. Because it's it's been kind of shaky really,
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  Speaker 1: and and so I'm excited. I'll be there Thursday afternoon
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  Speaker 1: to see it. So it's a good cast and the
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  Speaker 1: trailer looked great. I liked Galactus, like the massiveness, the
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  Speaker 1: scope of how big that he is, and so I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready for it.
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  Speaker 3: And you mentioned you're a fan of like obviously the
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  Speaker 3: whole the tidy of the MCU. But have you ever
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  Speaker 3: been to the comics?
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  Speaker 1: A little bit when I was a kid, but not
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  Speaker 1: so much. I have a couple of I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: he wouldn't be MCU, but I think maybe around twenty
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  Speaker 1: eleven when the Brian Michael Bendis Miles Morales started came out.
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  Speaker 1: I have a few of those, and I'm a fan
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  Speaker 1: of Spider Man, but in particular I really enjoyed Miles Morales.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's fair.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
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  Speaker 3: Now the next thing, and this has been the whole
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  Speaker 3: thing about Superman legacy, about the whole reboot of the
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  Speaker 3: DC or I don't know what's it called now, the
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  Speaker 3: DCU for sure. Now I guess he was the dc
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: It was DCE EU and I was back to DCU whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how much you know about classics Superman,
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  Speaker 3: but this seems like like like Ben Ben always talks
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  Speaker 3: about how like this really excites the fan base because
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  Speaker 3: they're really like touching on like the classic things like
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  Speaker 3: his dog, like that's never really been done recently that
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I know of Superman's dog.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hold I think it's like certain parts
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  Speaker 2: of the fan base. I haven't really paid attention to
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  Speaker 2: how people reacted to the new trailer, but overall, I
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  Speaker 2: know there's a lot of people who love Man of
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  Speaker 2: Steel and love you know, that version of it. So
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  Speaker 2: I know there's people who are hating on this just
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  Speaker 2: as much as people are loving it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I was one of the Man of Still
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  Speaker 3: lovers and I love Henry cavill as Superman. But like
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  Speaker 3: this has also gotten a really good reception too, Like
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  Speaker 3: people are like, from what I've seen it, it's even
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: if there is I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Sure there is, there always will be. But I've got
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  Speaker 4: I've seen nothing but generally really great reception about this.
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  Speaker 2: That's good to hear, because I don't I stopped paying
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  Speaker 2: attention about people, you know, especially on something like Superman
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  Speaker 2: because it's.
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  Speaker 1: So so divisive.
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  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, so I'm not really Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: just I thought the new trailer was incredible, and I
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: thought it looks everything about it looks great, But I
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  Speaker 2: haven't been paying attention. After I watched it, I stopped,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: you know, watching the reaction to it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it looks good. I mean, you gotta kind
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: of give James Gunn some leeway. I mean, he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to fix it. I mean, what's what's the the HBO
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: show with the guy with the helmet with the guy
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  Speaker 1: with the helmet peacemaker. I didn't know anything about that character.
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  Speaker 1: Watching that show was really fun. I enjoyed it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to season two. So he's there to try
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  Speaker 1: to right the ship, and it seems like, you know,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: he's got a great track record, so we got to
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  Speaker 1: give him a shot, you know, like I'm gonna be
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: there opening weekend like everybody else. And I'm rooting for
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: him because it's just been a little bleak over there
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  Speaker 1: in the DCU, and and those are the toys that
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I played with growing up, Superman, Batman, all all of that,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm looking for it to be good. There was
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  Speaker 1: what did you all think? Did you see the part
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  Speaker 1: in the trailer where I guess there was some hullabaloo
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  Speaker 1: about the blinking.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, that shit pissed me off.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I didn't even know it was a
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  Speaker 3: thing until I saw some like tiktoks about it where
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: they say they fixed the trailer. So there's a point
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  Speaker 3: in the trailer where it's the part where like the
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: crowd is angry with Superman, like they mad at him
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: about something like they not fucking with Superman, right, And
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: so he's walking through an angry crowd and someone throws
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: a can or something at his head and it hits
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  Speaker 3: him in the head, and the actor naturally because he's
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: a human being playing an alien, but he blinks.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't even know this was even a thing.
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  Speaker 4: For whatever reason.
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  Speaker 3: There was like this hooplay by a loud minority that
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: at Superman, nothing would FaZe him, why would he blink?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: And I guess that toxic part of the fandom got
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: loud enough and got to the people in the studios
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: and everything so much that they actually went in and
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I think they used AI.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: They edited the trailer so that.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: When Superman gets hit in the head with the can,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: he doesn't blink, it just hits like. He still has
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: this look on his face like he's upset, but there's
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: no blinking Okay. Now, First of all, again, like I said,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I even knew know that was even a problem like that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I was just like, why did y'all How could y'all
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: look so deeply into something like that? Secondly, at the
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: end of the day, from why I understanding a superman
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: live regardless of.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: The fact that he's an alien.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: He takes his love and understanding and empathy from humanity.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: And it's not about oh, he's shouldn't fill a can.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: We know that he's impervious to most of these things.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: We know that that's not the point. He's showing emotion
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, that's what he does.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: He shows emotion, he shows empathy, he shows heart, he
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: shows character. He is disappointed, he is sad, he's overwhelmed,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: anything else you could think of, Like it's clear from
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: seen in the trailer, and it's only a few seconds long.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Another thing, Ben is very short, but it's enough Like
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: when you the first time I seen it, I was like, damn,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: like they really not fucking with him, Like you know
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like you felt something, So for them
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to go back and edit it and like like it
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: was on like Collider or something.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I'm like, why the fuck would they do this?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: It's like you're you're all feeling it and everybody, Actually
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I ain't even.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: The thing is I just it was so natural. It
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: happened naturally, so I didn't think nothing of it. So
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: then when it came back, it's like, oh, he fixed it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Fix fucking one.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to even hear this is like it just makes
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: me lose faith and feel like I've lost touch with
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: humanity or humanity's lost touch with themselves.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, So the other thing that I knowed, well,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know because they what's his.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Name looked pretty buff, but like, I know that James
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Gunn took a large portion of his inspiration from All
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Star Superman, and the All Star Superman comic is one
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: of my favorites.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: We talked about a lot.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: To me, Chris, you have to okay, Yeah, I mean,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: it's just absolutely incredible and it just gets Superman down
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to his essence. But one of the things that Grant
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Morrison when they wrote it, they said that they didn't
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: feel like they were inspired by something, but I can't
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: remember what it was exactly, but they basically were saying
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: that Clark Kent Superman wouldn't have big muscles because they're
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: not someone who is working out. They're powered by the sun,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: so they don't need muscles to be strong. They have
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: you know, they they're Superman like, their power comes from
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: other places. So when you read All Star Superman, Superman
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: is not that you know, he's buff, but he's not.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Like yeah, and it worked for the story, but I know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: I just want to see how people accept some of
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: the things because there's a lot of things like of
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: that nature that are in All Star Superman that make
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: it so great to me.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Is that he is human and all this. Yeah, it's
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: like looking at footage like that is so we're just
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: part of this generation that breaks things down the seconds
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and shit. And it's so because everything you know, it's
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: like because we viewed things and tip tops of you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: seconds at a time. It's like, if it's not a
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: perfect twelve seconds of cinema, you know, it's it's a problem. Yeah,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and it's just something it doesn't make sense because you're
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: not reviewing film like.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: That, and sometimes you find beauty and mistakes. Yeah, and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you like, I'm I'm somebody who like around around college,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Like when I was nineteen, I started collecting DVDs and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I bought my first DVD player. And the thing that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I loved about the time back then is listening to
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a director's commentary and they just say, oh, we kind
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: of had like a happy accident and we got this
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: really beautiful shot, and it's it's like you kind of
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: have to Yeah, we're too we were too critical and
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and we don't we don't really get to enjoy these things,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Like you know, how could we? I mean, I think
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: we're we're of similar age. I'm not going to put
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: age on you guys that you're not, but like, could
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you imagine, as with the tech, how technology has come
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: when we were like little kids to even be seeing
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: all of these really terrific shows and movies with superheroes
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: that we could only see in the comic books and like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: hold the actions. It's amazing. So we kind of, I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: don't know, we lose. We're kind of spoiled in a
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: lot of ways. Yeah, Like I like talking about stuff
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and breaking it down, but I like to enjoy shit too,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one thing like I was very surprised
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and kind of relieved that when Sinners got all of
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: love that it got the people. I didn't see people
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: being like, well, they need to digitize this film and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: clean it up, you know, because like I know, there's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: one account on Twitter and a lot I remember when
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: it blew up, a lot of us started hating it,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: like a lot of hip hop heads, because it was
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: it's this white dude who takes old hip hop videos
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: from the nineties and two thousands and adjust them to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: sixty frames per second.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: He scales them up, yes, and it looks distressed. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm someone who is like you, Christian.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I've studied film at Howard, like that's my first thing
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: before anything, and film is shot at twenty four frames
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: per second, you know, for the reason how the mechanism works.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: You know, that's how it rolls through the camera, et cetera.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: So when you upgraded, the sixty frame ites not what
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the director wanted, it's not what anyone wanted, but it's
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: just new. It's a different generation. Like I've seen people
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: talk about that with video agains. For They're like, I
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: can't play a video game in let's sixty fay for
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a second, and to me, sixty phrase per second for
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: most games looks weird, you know, because for most it's
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: just too clean. Like I still prefer that thirty frame
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: per second, you know. I know when I'm playing a
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: fighting game, I might need to mess the frames, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I'm getting my ass hit either way.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, just not saying me like Neanderthal
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: when it comes it looks good. Look at Spider Man,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: like he's amazing, it's amazing. I thought you were going
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to talk about this dude. I don't even want to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: say his name, but like I was telling y'all in
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: pre production, I went to this AMC has this thing
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: like maybe once a month called screen Unseen. You go
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to the theater. You don't know what you're seeing until
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the movie comes on. And so last night it was
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Bring Her Back the New, a twenty four flick that's
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: coming out soon, a horror movie. Really, it's a good movie.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: It's really it's crazy.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: That's not by the people who did Barbarian right, No,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that they got something else coming that's weapons.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, I want to see that. That's gonna
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: be dope. These are the guys of Philippoop Brothers who
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: did talk to me like in twenty twenty two to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: twenty three years that one. So I saw it, I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: was like, this is crazy interesting movie. Is a guy
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: that was trying, who was hating on centers. He's white,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: he's a filmmaker that's done some pretty good stuff. But
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: so he sees bring Her Back, uh and he he says,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he says, you might call me a sinners, but bring
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Her Back is the best straight horror movie so far
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Say his name, yeah, just say his name.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Joe Russo. Joe Russo. Wait, not of the Russo. No, no, no, no, no, no, okay,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: he is let me, let me because he's done some stuff.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Citadel Cherry extraction. He did it, that bullshit extract.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I mean was Joe Russo tweets his handle it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: He was the producer on twenty one Bridges.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Did he direct a distraction and producer?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Oh well, that's what I'm saying, Like you can say that, yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I still say fucking either way though, even if he
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: directed distract.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Every fut here, every time we do get something we
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: like or somebody black puts out something, it's always somebody
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that wants to shit on it, and it's like, let
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: us have The movie was good. It was dope movie.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Black people creating in Hollywood have to overcome far more
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: every time they make anything than any white person will
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: ever have to do.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: The storytelling alone.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: That it hates for black people to do things like
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: that Ryan Coodler had to do in Centers, to break
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: down and show you this whole world of sharecropping, of.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Blues music, of who do of this?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Of that before you even get to vampires is something
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: that's something like Lost Boys, which is me one of
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the greatest scripts, greatest films and greatest vampire film of
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: all time, doesn't have to do. And that's why Centners
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: is now my number one vampire film, even above Lost Boys.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And so I don't really have time for an ass
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: idiot like that who made such statesments, because there's no
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: comparison of pretty much any film that I've done.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: To see this year, I team magazine Dreams that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Will, you know, put it on the level of doing
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the work that Sinners had to do and then to
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: be that entertaining At the same time, I don't even
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: have time to give it breath.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I feel it's just a second time old boy said
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: something and I was sitting I was simmering.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Pull up, Oh, well him, That's what I'm saying, Like
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you can give him a good we making excuses and
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: being like, oh no, it's.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: A nice movie over here.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: No like no, Like nobody has to do the work
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: that Brian Kugler that I've seen this year, that Brian
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Coogler did with Sinners. There's nothing on that level, and
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I doubt there will be. It's just not you know
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: how it works.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: To me, I feel like it has the potential and
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: because it's backed by a big studio, it's got the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: potential to do what everything everywhere, all at once did
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: because that that was the first film that I remember,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: just off the top of my head that opens in
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: the spring, and it's just wired to wire love and
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: appreciation of it and back then, but two three years ago,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a twenty four, much much smaller studio back then. But
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: if you got you got the power of Warner Brothers
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: behind you, I think it can carry. It's definitely gonna
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: win technical awards, I think. I mean as far as
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like the standouts are concern like Delroy Lindo should at
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: least get a nom for it. I mean, I hope,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I would hope. So just just trying to think pragmatically
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: about it, not.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: With no no no see man, you're on the wrong
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: show again. No no, no, I'm show.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: No, I stop you there because we ain't pragmatic about things.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, Center Sweep is the campaign, you know
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like that shit should be nominated.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: It made the most money. Money talks, money walks into
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: ospar raates like you know, whether people want to say
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: it or not, and it's gonna have the critical claim,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: so we need to just say no, Ryan Corupler, best director.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: You know, Center's for best film.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: It needs to be nominated, rank the best writer like
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: down the line. It don't need I mean, and I'm sorry, bro,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: but we over here with your eyes and nominated books
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: that we put out.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: So it's like the Oscris is right there. We gotta
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: go for him, like no, I think we will. No,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I'm saying based on history, then it's like yeah, fuck history, No, no,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: like that know where you where you come from to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: know where you're going.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you also got to have a you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: a vision of being like no, this is the one
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: we we gotta stop thinking like I don't like thinking
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: of like, oh, let's hope for this, let's think of like, no,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: this is what it should be.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I know what you mean.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like, yeah, I'm past that. Let's hope
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: for this days. You know, I got you.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, like the last time we saw
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: this was with that film, and I think it with
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the studio behind it, which is much bigger than A
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: twenty four back then, and now m it can carry
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it and it I think it will. Yes, Now we
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going We don't know what's gonna happen.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And and in the fall when you hit that onslaught
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: of everybody gunning for the gunning for the title, everybody's
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: coming after Patrick Mahomes, everybody's coming after Jalen Hurt, the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: big you know. Yeah, yeah, because because I'm I'm I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: see it as as taking all these awards. I see
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it should be now we all know it should what
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: should happen, and what happens sometimes that's yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: But see that what I'm saying we should like we
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: gotta especially in terms of just putting things out into
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the universe that you want to see. You gotta start,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: you know with the no, this is what I want
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to see, and this is what I believe is going
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: to happen because when we start with the oh, but
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: you know, pragmatically, you're not We ain't gonna win shit.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You gotta start with a you know, a vision of
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: like there's no other thing. When you start with the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: pragmatic vision, you ain't getting nowhere. Like he wouldn't. He
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: didn't make this movie magically, you know what I mean.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And that's what I'm talking to like people out there,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: to anyone who's a creative you we got to stop thinking, oh, well,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: history said this, you know, and this is how it
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: used to be, you know. And then especially when you
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: use an example like everything Everywhere all once, which cleaned up,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: which did not make near the money Centers is made,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: which is nowhere near on the level. Like even when
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: you so it's like history is shown that this movie
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: should win everything, right when you really look at it,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: you know, if you even if you wanted to be
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: realistic about it, history is shown this movie should win everything.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: It's made way more money than Everything Everywhere all once.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: It's not the same type of critical acclaim, right.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: And I agree with you Ben that we as supporters
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: should always have the positive and put that out there
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: about what we want, we feel correct. I also think
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Chris is just tying this back to this original statement,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: which was people should on black people for no reason.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. We got.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like we do a bit of it ourselves
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: by limitating ourselves, by limitations, by place some limitations on ourselves.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like we can be that same type of people,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: but we're like, oh, but you know, if.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: It wins, that will be good.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Now fuck that, you know, like it should win everything,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and that should be the way, you know, the emotion
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: because we see what was a When did I first
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: start seeing that sweet movement on something?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Where it was like, you know, it's like hashtag something
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: sweet and it was a movie to me that didn't
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: deserve sweet. But you know, the fans were out there
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: on social media heavy.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Like shape of Water something.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: No, No, it was something bright. It wasn't uh, what's
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the what's my man?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It had some alliteration Land, No, niggas is not trying
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: because we would have. I would have barked the man down.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: He tried to say like one that year. Yeah, No,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I just hated all land.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't hate it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I love that you that's fine, keep it red on
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: the show, right, And.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Was it better than Moonlight? No? No, it's not even
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: about that. It's movie. It's a it's like I hate
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that director. You remember who's in it? Do you tell
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: me who's in it? And I probably get it. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: don't give a ship. No I don't.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: It's not about who's in it. It's about the director.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: And like I loved his movie before La La Land.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: What what's someone always talking about Whiplash? Whiplash was terrific. Yeah,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: but is it about jazz.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: A little bit?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: No? No, no, stop lying, No it's not. No, it's like.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, no, no being an artist. No, it's not about
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: jazz at all. No, it's like it is.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And not only is it not about jazz, it's disrespectful
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: to what jazz is because it's some white boys thinking
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: that playing fast has anything to do with jazz music.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And it's like these white boy, this white man made
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: this movie where And that's and that's my problem with
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: La La Land, where you have a white man movies
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: about black music and telling mass audiences what black music
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: is about. So I haven't now and I think Whiplash
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: as a film not about jazz music. It's fantastic and
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: some torturous teacher beating the shit out of his students.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite movies ever. But it's just
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: not about jazz, right.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: No, that that's the dialogue around. But the dialogue around
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Lyland was like they invented jazz black yeah, and that's
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying that And that was the bullshit of course.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: See that's what happens when we allowed this to happen,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: when we allowed whiplash, and then when we're like, oh yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: you know, no shops.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: But when you're like, oh yeah, a lot of Land school,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: it's like, no, fuck that, it's not cool.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It's the same way I feel about Hamilton. I could
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: go off to oh well Hamilton, Uh yeah, I didn't.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I think those people are very talented. I auditioned for Hamilton.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Every time we named like a show movie, you're like, well,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I auditioned for that in twenty nineteen.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: The only reason I was.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Element there did he start doing his uh it was
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: it was itself.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Lyrical spiritual miracle whip rap, to be to be, to
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: be Full, that's a just basic car lyrical spiritual miracle
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: whip I'm trying to think full disclosure. That was it.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: So my dad had just died, and my manager was
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: trying to see if I was gonna, like not if
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I was gonna just like go into my shell and
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: not audition for stuff. So I just looked at it
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: as a challenge. And so I was. I was doing
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: a gig in Atlantic City and I was in the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: room by myself doing those uh songs and uh they're
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: not easy, like I can sing, but and I can,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I can. I know people's raps, but it was I
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: respect talent, but I don't. I don't. I don't appreciate
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: like the how white people just loved it, but they
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: don't love like real rap.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: The real Yeah, they don't necessarily like or respect real
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: you know, they say.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: In centerves like you know they love the music, they
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: don't love the people who do it right, right, So yeah, no,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: we're I think we're on the same page. Oh you
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: know with that.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, I you know, I like I
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: like some of the performers in Hamilton. I've never been
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: an l M M fam I no on any level.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: And I but I do have a huge problem with
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: taking hip hop and using it to tell the story
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: of Crackers, you know what I mean, and President Crackers
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: at that, like you know, I just I can't like that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: It's so it's you know moonlight. I mean that moonlight
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: is La La Land. You know, it's like these same
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: type of things where it's like that and which again,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: which is why I love Centners so much, and you
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: know why I wrote this book right here, you know, and.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I love it and I think we just have to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: we just have to be intentional like I think I was.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I was. I am being intentional by you know the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: things that I'm going to talk about on June twenty
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: seventh and caveat seven and nine thirty. There you go.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: It's me being my authentic self, like I am here.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: But it's just just to make you laugh, you know.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's what I'm It's I think we're
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: just at a time where, you know where I like
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: listening to you guys before I came on the show,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and I think this is we need this. The more
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I see bullshit from people like Joe Russo, it's like
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: every time every time I think about quitting my podcast,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: The Mundane Festival available wherever you listen to shows I'm like,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we I'm glad we do this. I was
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: talking to one of my homies, the comic Damian Lemon,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: talking about shows like Power, how that is Prestige TV.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: The Shy is Prestige TV just because these people on
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Ringer don't talk about it on the Ringer Verse. I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: think it's good. I like it, I love I'm not
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be an elitist and say that I
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: don't watch it. Is it a good pleasure? No, it's not.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait a minute, I haven't missed an episode. Okay,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I mean I've seen every every spin off,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: every episode of everything.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Is it prestige?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: You know prestige? What do you mean by that?
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: That's like that so you know how Bill Simmons has
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the Ringer and all that, and like, oh, we're only
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: going to talk about Game of Thrones. We're only going
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: to talk about like, I know, the Game of Thrones
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and it has problems too, but yeah, it's like all
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: these think like, okay, like what's the what's the white show?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: HBO show, the all the white folks with the one
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that just ended? Uh money, money folks, billions billions. That's showtime.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Uh damn, damn, what what's the show? The succession, Brian Succession,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: all these prestige like the white shows and the great
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and the acting is great.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Well see we okay, Chris, we were I think we
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: me and to well talking about this off air a
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. But there was like, there was
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: this article that talked about I read where it's like
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: we're like, we're not in the Golden era of television anymore.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: We're in like in an era of television that you
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: can have the look and feel of a Golden era television,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: but it's really not. And it came up because we
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: were talking about Dared Were Born Again when it came out,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: and like at first we were hype. When the first
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: two episodes dropped, we were like, yeah, great, And then
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: as the series went on, me especially, I was like, yo,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: this has nothing to say. It is just like I
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: love it because Charlie Cox and uh what's the name
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: are fantastic and the writing.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Is good enough, you know where it's.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Like okay, but it's not like where like I put
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: something like I put some like the and or or
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the Wire or even like you know, early Game of Thrones,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: you know, or Sopranos, which I'm not the bigger fan of,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: but you know, it was one of the things you
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: know for as time especially, And that's the way I
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: feel about Like no power is different.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: But some are some are better than others. I have.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I had to go. I had to google how many
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: people's Marvin Shott? He kills everybody? Like every week.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: My man is bodying, Like at least it's like right now,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: he's up to two people.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: When he rescued, when he rescued his goddaughter. Just say, body,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: white guy with tattoos came in. Just say, a white
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: guy with tattoos came in. You'll be fine.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, don't even want it's the greatest show ever made.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I've made this argument many a time that I will
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: break power up with anything, but I think.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: It's really good. Like I'm not I'm not saying it's bad.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Wait what part google with number? Like I really googled
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: this one. Did it say umber twenty four? You know?
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: On one I saw?
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: But I don't feel like that's enough because like I know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: this week was this week was two more he caught
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: he caught two this week?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well something's got to happen, something something, or or
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to make Jukebox make that full villain turn. Yeah, that's
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: could be next season. She already lost her music career,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and I think she's the most compelling character on that show.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I think she's one of the best actors. I like
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Marvin honestly, I like him.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: He does it so smoothly he be shooting, he's so
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: hilarious with it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Haley Hailey Kilgore and Patina Miller, to me, are the
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: best actors.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Patina who who's rock rock is Patina Mill Rock Patinas.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Old stage act and she looks she that that scene
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that they did in the in the diner, that was
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: like it's like a masterclass.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Also, Joey badasss goods good.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: But he's always been good because I like them.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: On but this is not prestige TV.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: But I mean that's what I'm saying.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't think, I don't I don't like
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: it's what is prestige?
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Like, well, we asked that question on question yet.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Well y'all ain't let me answer. It's the one that
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: white folks be elevating all the time and say it's
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the best, like like mad Men, Breaking Bad. Yes, every
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: every podcast or everybody on YouTube is talking about those shows.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: But The Shy or Power just don't get which.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Has which by the way, has a lot more podcasts, coverage,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: YouTube channels and everything fully dedicated to it. I mean,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: there are probably hundreds of power based shows on YouTube
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: and podcasts and things like that. Like there's a whole
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: cottage industry that all they do is review that fucking
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: show and the Shy and everything around it, which is crazy.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Red. It was deep.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I was on there because I was on there before
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: they refealed Breeze, and the theories of who Breeze were
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: was was incredible.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Bread they were. I thought it was gonna be like
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I was gonna be Joey because like most people are
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: province be Joey with a brain change or something. But
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: once he came back this season, it wasn't Breeze. Yeah.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, that doesn't seem right, and then it,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: you know, it turned out to be what's his name,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the Weirdo.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm happy for him.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I'm happy for Shamik in one way, but it's also
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: like one of them to be digging his own.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's like he it's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: just you. He can't just rest on. I'm a handsome guy.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I kept moving apart. Yeah, it's like he just got
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: he gotta be weird.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's it's it's like and I'm hoping
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: that he's not like my man who played easy, because
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: you know that dude had a promising career and then
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: he threw it away.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Wow, talk about a downfall.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and is like, you know, he'd be
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: right on that, on the edge, on the edge. He
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: was great in the Wu Tang show, Like I thought.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I thought that was good until it got weird towards
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: the end. But it was still good. Oh wait, you
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: didn't like it towards the end.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, they were some of the some episodes,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: some of them episodes were a little much like what
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you're doing.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: So what was that like?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Wait, as I think Wu Tang is one of my
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: you know, I've talked about it, one of my favorite
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: shows all time.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Right, is that prestige?
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: And and just to go back to what you were saying, Chris,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: like I feel you on it, Like I don't like
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: when it's like you say these particular people of these
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: particular platforms that say, all well, and they get to
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: dictate what's prestige.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: But to me, it's similar to white supremacy in general.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, this dictates what's normal, this distaste's accepted.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: You understand, Like it's the same thing I had just
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: explained you You didn't know that there's a whole there's hundreds
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: of people of shows that I have thousands of views,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I mean relevant not of views of stuff that again
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: you mentioned power, you mentioned Wu Tang, you mentioned like
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: people who have done this for years and years and
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: years on end enough that the show is to run
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: and somebody.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Watching it's there's a large contingents, a large group.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: We're talking about millions of viewers at this point, right,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: So what is the difference. The only difference is this. Yeah,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: whether or not it's well written and all, it doesn't matter.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: You hate fucking Breaking at the end of when it
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: came to the end of Breaking Bad for example, Right,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's incredibly well written.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: It's to be well.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Written until you hate that character, I know.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: But that's a different I just hate Walter White. I
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: just think it's still well written.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: So do you don't think was well written.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: No, I think Wu Tang is too.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: It's okay, but white. And that's my point.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: And that's this, This is my This is where I
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: would differentiate, Like I think Snowfall and Power are good.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I think the Wire is where you talk about prestige,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: where you talk about all time great.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: The Lords because of a lot of because of racism, but
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I but you know, historically, I think the Wire is
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: like you know, written directed at that everything is top tier.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Snowfall had the z selling, you know, make it being
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a crack cocaine wizard.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: It jumped it jumped the shark when he was showing
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: up as the cocaine with it. I was like, all right,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: but you know, you guys, you got me. I mean,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: it's just like Power.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like when my man shoots two people
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: a week, it's jumping the shark.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: But I'm there every week. You know, what about what
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: about Forever on Netflix? I thought that was I thought
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that was terrific that there was some prom stuff that
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: was triggering towards me to me, but I got over it.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I'm forty five. I got over it. You know, I'm
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: still on whatever but I thought Wood Harris plays the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: dad in that fucking exquisite. Actually see him almost all
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the time he's playing a thug guy or he's just
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: kind of whatever it is. But just to see him
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: with nuance to be It's not like he's never had
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: he's always been great. But this role was just like
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: like Jazz. He was smooth, he was he was uh,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: he checked his wife elegantly, like when he when they
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: had issues with their son, and he he was vulnerable,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: he was caring, funny, just like it was a fantastic
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: He should be considered war Yeah. The the woman who
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: played let me get her name. I like to say
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: these actors' names. Uh. The woman who played the mom,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Karen Pittman, who was on The Wonderful. Yeah, And you
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: see these like these these teen shows where you never
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: see the parents. In this one, it's like it's black
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and it's it's just it's just fucking black and it's
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: great and it's like, I don't know, it's just it's
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: it's I watched that over the court, So let me
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: see what's up with this new show. Locked In. This
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: is forever on Netflix, Forever on Netflix. Just really talent
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and oh yeah, I love The Morning the Show. It's fantastic.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: It's it's really good, and you know, people will try
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to hate on it, but it's, you know, lovey Simone.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I want to finish this, but I want to know.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about Ironheart too.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I forgot we forgot to talk about that.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: No, what did you have to say about Ironheart?
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's just bullshit that they
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: they're not promoting it like they should be. And I
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: think with the success of Centers, I think they put
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: out that Ryan Coogler video, so hopefully people will watch.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch. But what did you think of
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: the trailer?
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: What did you think of the trailer?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: This is this has been I think people were saying
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: it was kind of old. It was it seemed cool.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I wasn't the biggest fan of the suit in general
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: in Wakanda forever. I liked the suit that was in
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the comic book because I didn't I did read the
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's like to both. Did she do both?
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I don't believe something she did the first one. Did
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: she I'm gonna have to look on my wall.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: You're right, I think she did the first iron Heart comic. Ever,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: right she lost that book. I think, so.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Whatever, I love because it just it just stylistically, it
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: was just kind of sleek and it looks smaller. I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: have both action figures, but yeah, both the action figures. Whatever,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: nervous listen.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: I think that's on perfect because, like, you know how
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: even though yes, this is in the comics, they have
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: to build up to that, like, yeah, they're mimicking in
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: some ways. They mimicking how the Iron Manason did when
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: he came out with the you know, the random still
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: still ten cansuit and then it like it reiterated yeah,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: And I think eventually we're going to see the colors.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: But I do agree with you that they have not
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: and I don't know what's been changing lately, but I
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: also feel like a lot of people felt that they
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: have not given it no promotion. There is some alleged
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: thing that in the industry they're changed now where if
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: it's a TV show, they're only giving it like a
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: thirty day like promo period. But it's stupid and ridiculous,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, why is it happening now, because like
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: just last year they was going like.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: For ninety days for Agatha all along and other people.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Like like they give so much elsewhere and then and
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: and ACA was great, but still like the one time
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: this shit come out that.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: We didn't hear shit about it and literally.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Just heard about it two days ago, at least for
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the people who are not already in the industry.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: And it's kind of maddening.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: But Bet, I mean, you thought the trailer wasn't even
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: that good.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, but it's one of those things where I
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: thought it was just not that it wasn't good. I
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: just thought it was like, Okay, I've seen this before
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: so many times out with Marvel, and that's like how
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: you felt about Thunderbolts is how I felt about it.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Like even Thunderbolts were the same way, Like I enjoyed Thunderbolts,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: but afterwards, you know, after you walk out, you're like.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, that was cool. Yeah, and you know, and it
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it got back.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: To the formula that it worked for them twenty years ago. Yeah,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: And that's how I felt watching the Ironhart trailer. And
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, you know, and I knew they would,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: you know, jump down my throat because I posted that,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't like it, and people were like, man,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like Sam, like, objectively, this trailer is not that
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: good to me. If it was, I would be all
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: over it. But I just thought this wasn't that good.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna watch the show. I'm gonna you know,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: review every episode and hopefully, you know, put some shine
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: on it where you know, it gets some more love,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: and if it is good, I'm gonna be streaming to
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the High Hills that it's great.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I thought.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't think Andrew was dooming the first starter, you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I was like, eh, and then it became one of
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: my favorite shows all time, so I'm definitely gonna give
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: it a chance. But I just did not think that
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: trailer was it.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I do agree that the trailer was a bit disappointing
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: for me. It was just like I was so happy
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: to finally see something.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was too official.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then it's like, come on, man, I can't
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: It's like we can't be happy for scraps.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: You know. And that's how I felt with that.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: That just felt like Scraps, Like, yeah, I don't know,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Anthony what's his name? Is cool, but Anthony Ramos, I'm
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: just not convinced on him. You know, and yeah, like
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: he hasn't done it from yet, but maybe this. I've
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: never seen him be a villain either, so maybe this
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: would be the warm where I'm like, oh.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: He's usually like the good guy or the guy for
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: last time I seen him and the thing was Twister.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: You know, I thought he was to be the villain
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: in that and then he turned into like the well.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: The movie was.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: It was the kind of he was.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: He was kind of a villain in that, but he
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: was kind of a villain.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: But he turned it around, I thought, right, kind of
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: redemption art kind of sort yeah, but the nigga was
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: ended up being the bad guy.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was like the only Latin character they
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: ended up the bad guy.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, damn that check clear though that movie.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Was hilarious, But back to my heart, I'm want you then.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I Am going to give it all the support and
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: coverage and everything. Could they have done better, obviously, but
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: I'm also just like, this shit has been sitting on
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: the shelf for so long, and it's just like, how
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: do you like they could.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Do it for everything else?
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: How do they revive or bring life to something that's
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: been sitting around that technically is stale, right, and you
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: can say they have all projects, projects be done for
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: years and we see it after the fact, but like
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: it's a certain level of energy and fervor that they
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: give to the promo into it where it doesn't matter
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: if they did it ten years ago.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: You're still like, oh shit, this shit looks like this shit.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: It's just and I hate to say this, but it
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: just feels like they they feel like they know what
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: they have on their hands.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: Like to the negative.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sorry, but it's like, you know, and I
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to be the one.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: But I mean he ain't directed, but Kogler produced, the
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: executive produced it not.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why they're pushing him now. Yeah, that's
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: why they pushing him now.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: But the executive produce means absolutely nothing in Hollywood, to
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: be honest, you know, other than you put your money
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: behind it and then you put your name.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Ain't bind it. The quality could be your name.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Being put in behind it, like you're not gonna writing,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: gonna put his name behind anything.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: No, and I think it's gonna be I don't think
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: it's But like that trailer makes me worried more than
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: anything because it because it's like if you know where
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: is it, then like you gotta have something where I'm like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: oh ship And there was nothing in that treader roll
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: like oh you know, just like all right, I'm gonna
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: watch this.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, you we we accused
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: him of putting all that good stuff in the trailer.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Well listen, maybe this is classic Marvel where they lie
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: to us. Remember that's that's usually works with our favorites, Like.
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: They still okay, I'm gonna give it a shot at
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: some of the best stuff in Thunderbolts were stelling those
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: chairs like how many episodes?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Is it six or something? Damn, I don't know.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: It is short because it's considered a mini series.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Damn yeh oh this is getting m hm, please don't.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: Six episodes? And whoa and the first three is coming
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: out June twenty fourth.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: God damn.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: So half of the season is coming out day one,
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: m three days.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Before my comedy special tape in that coveyat you have
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: time to write yourself for re Rewilliams conundrum, Well, how
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: old is another edits coming went to Cornell smart, smart
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: black woman.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's she's grown.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: I get it there, all grown, Miss Steimefeld's but I've
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: been watching her since True Grit.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: It's never going to be that. That sounds like you're
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: like that's on some Wilmer Valdorama ship. Like That's what
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is never Yeah, I'm never marking it off. No,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I'll never definite.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I'm saying I'll never look at her in any way
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: because she will always be you know, yeah, no, I
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: mean in Center.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I would give her you know, in Center she left
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the mate. She's a grown woman, but you know she's
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: a young woman.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: It's like that, ain't no, you know, I'm you know,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, I'm really looking forward to Ironhart.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: I am too.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: After that edit, it took everything else to be just
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: said out. Yeah, we'll out. Guy. You guys are pros.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Luna, I'm so sorry chopping up this episode.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: This is gonna come out.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, no, no, no, no, no, no, Luna is
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: a gee.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, damn.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, we talked about a lot, but we are coming
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: to the end. But before you go, we do have
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: to do a brap segment.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: But are you ready?
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: If you had no choice but to run, for office
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: with a comic book villain or in this case MCU villain,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: who would you choose? And why with an MCU villain,
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: We're dc N whatever you like, it has to be
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: a villain who is uh green Goblin's dad.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Norman Osborne, Norman Osborne, I.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Would I would run with him because he's smart. You
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: know what.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it because I'm still stuck on your
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man animation that was out on
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Disney Plus a few months ago, and I'm thinking of
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: the black Norman Osbourne and well, yeah, he's black in
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: that one, and he got his finger waves is going
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: real strong, So that's why I was But no, that's
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: actually it's it's actually it was an incredible animated series.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: So I'm actually looking forward to the sequel. But the
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: next season that's.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Not the one where the Spider Man guy Peter Parker
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: was racist or said some racist ship? Which one was that?
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: That was the one that was the one, the one
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: that the one that voices him, that was the one.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: You know, Well, I guess Tatiana still goes to Target.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Actually the last week. Yeah, then no, I have not
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: gone since Ship January.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: It was our first time.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I haven't gone to January.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: When did you realize that you were a nerd or
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: into fandom.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I think I just kind of realized it when I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: think when I when I started dating a lot, I
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: don't know some women that they're just like, you really
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: like movies. I'm like, yeah, that's fair.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: It could you could have. You could not even known
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: until just now.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: God, God, I think I really do think it's it's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: it's almost like when other people tell you, it's almost
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: like since the advent of social media and that comes out,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: you kind of find your tribe. Yeah, And I want
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: to say, like you it might have been like because
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: you're kind of in the real world, you're kind of
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: just bumping around and then the Internet, you know, it
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: can be acsessible. But I would say, like, you know,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: finding people like like rod On, listening to him on
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: listening to him do guest calls on The Morning Jones,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: which might have been two thousand and eight or nine ish, Okay,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: surround there, yeah, twenty eleven is something like that, and
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: then just doing listening to his podcast, doing the podcast,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: finding people like oh, these this is these people are
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: similar to me, So really, I guess, like, I don't know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: that's a great questions. It's deceptively it's acceptively simple, but
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: not yes, it's not a simple question.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wekay.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: And then if somebody calls your nerd in sixth grade
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: and punches you the bully, I think you knew then bruh.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're right. But I played, but I did. I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: played sports and stuff I played. But I'm trying to think, yeah, well,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: how do you let them punch you? Men? You should
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: do it a girl. But I would get excited to
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: go to the movies when I was a kid. It
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: was it was you knew. Yeah, there was a reference
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: that I had for the movie theater. So it's still that.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: It's been like that for a long when I was
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: a kid, because my uncle used to have Star Wars
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: on laser disc and all that. We used to play.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Kid which character's death in any medium you know, books, comics,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: move Optimus Prime. Oh man, we are not the second
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: you know. It's not that it's it's a great one.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: But now okay, because let's keep it real. Because for me,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: like because Tatanna sent me the clip from our interview
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: last week and she was like, and I was like,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: you know, because like I was that no, no, no,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I'm a little older. But the Optimist death was big.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: But Prow and smoke coming out that nigga's mouth when
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Megatron shot.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Him in the chest and the ship with more devastating
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm like, I don't know what the fuck
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: you're talking about.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Period before Optimists just chilled.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: At the very beginning of the movie, Megatron busts in
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: on the ship and there's like four or five prime
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: classic autobots on the ship, Prow, Brawn, I think Iron,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: how Iron hode catches into the face and it's like
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: these are classic, you know. And Prow was like, my dude,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: you know, you know he was a cop. I love
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Prow And my man gets shot in the chest and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: smoke comes out his mouth, like it is so disturbing.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Well, first of how are you gonna tell him? What's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: his for me?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: For me? For me? Tatiana goes target, you go to target,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: like the Cop things Transformer. I was also hurt when
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: he died, so I can't think pragmatic about movies.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: But all right, all right, Chris, So it was Optimists
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: when his head rolled to the side.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was six years old, you know, I had
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: to to it is cold blooded boy. I can't lie.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I remember crying and my mother was like, oh my god.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Oh damn no I that whole sequence. It was like
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it, you know, because like you said,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, none of these niggas had ever died.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: And then Megatron just wop wop.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: No, it was a lot in that.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: When he rolled over that in Septacon's head, I felt
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: so terrible, like you know, he.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: Was see I wasn't around.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Younger, Yeah, yeah she is.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: And it's like, no, this this nigga optimist murders like
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: several Decepticons right before he gets stealed. But yeah, one
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: of them is this incept The coon is trying to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: crawl back on the bridge and this nigga crushes his
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: head flat.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Like Roll worried about the murder of Decepticons.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Bro, All life is precious, all lives matter.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Wow, it would have happened to the show. What happened?
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I'm not saying I was worried about it.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I'll say that it was disturbing too. You know, I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: had a heart Chris. You know how old were you
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: when you saw it?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I think like seven eight? Yeah, who were the same eyes? Yeah,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: eighty seven is when it came out. I have I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: have the Yeah. No, that sh was but it was
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: all it was.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: It was iron Braun, my light braun, and that man
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: just got shot in the chest to sell over.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: You know, I gotta watch see I don't really remember all.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I just remember that Doptamus. But it's been a couple
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: of years since I've seen the seen the movie. I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: know I dreamed by hardboy sad there it is. Shout
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: out to Dirk Diggler. I don't even know about that.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Boogie Nights? I can.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: I came in during Beast Wars and all this other
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: shit you talking about.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: But if you've seen Boogie Nights, Tatiana is like twenty
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: one years old. I'm not twenty myself, but I don't
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: know what you guys are talking.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: We we gotta get I only have like two more questions.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: You gotta finish this guy. If you can have one superpower,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: what would it be? And don't tell me because in
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty, you interviewed or you auditioned for a certain role.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Funny you should say that after not booking apart on
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: the and Clan show. I wait, you tried out for
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: the Dead Ass?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: Are you dead Ass?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I read for that for Biggie, which was like not good.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not getting this, like twenty three
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: year old break for a couple. Yeah, I'm not gonna
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: gonna their their version of whoever he was, but superpower.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: It'd be cool to fly.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: Do you want to feel the freedom? Yeah, I'd like
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: to feel that the winning your hair.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: Before you go, please let the people know where they
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: could find you again. You want to plug that show
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: her that's coming.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Up and I hope to see you all there June
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: twenty seventh at Caveat in New York City, Lower East
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Side on Clinton Street. It is gonna be a great show.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: You can get tickets at Chris Lamber dot com. You
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: can find me on Instagram at Chris Lambert. But all
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: of that is at Chris Lamber dot com. And I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: have a podcast called The Mundane Festival available wherever you
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: listen to shows. And this has been a delight. You know,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I'm honored to be on here and to shoot the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: shit with y'all. So this has been terrific for me.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, and thank you for coming on and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: you know, just sharing your comedy with us.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: You know, definitely appreciate you and appreciate your view points
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: on here.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: You guys are not going to have me back right that.
• 1:06:14
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