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OTA Attendance and Willingness to Work | Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, May 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaggs Drive Time with John Oser, Osher, Brian Sexy, Sexton,
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  Speaker 1: Man Kay Steves. Jangs Drive Time starts right now.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome man.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Kanannie Stevens for this May twenty third edition of
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  Speaker 3: Jagg's Drive Time, of course, joined by your favorites Brian Sexton,
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  Speaker 3: John Oser.
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  Speaker 4: Here.
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  Speaker 3: We had day one of ot A's yesterday, which is
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  Speaker 3: always a good sign. So that means we're getting a
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  Speaker 3: little bit closer to the season. Not a ton to
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  Speaker 3: glean from it, I guess, but it is always exciting
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  Speaker 3: to get up back out there see most of the team.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, we're exciting to write word because there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of excitement in this marketplace about this team. People want
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  Speaker 5: to hear about them, read about them. You know, see
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  Speaker 5: the video of these guys on the field, and it
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  Speaker 5: was and we'll talk about this, but I wrote it
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  Speaker 5: for the column that we did for John. It was
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  Speaker 5: great to see so many players out there and and
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  Speaker 5: it was really good to see some of those guys
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  Speaker 5: look good and the.
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  Speaker 4: Guys who weren't here are are are our guys. You'd
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  Speaker 4: expect that. Josh Allen, who I know works on his
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  Speaker 4: own and has a regimen that he once yet in
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  Speaker 4: the season, and not Cam who's hurt anyway, who would
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  Speaker 4: be on the field. So and Evan Ingram, who is
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  Speaker 4: business expective with the tame it's fine. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: it was good to be out there. I guess it
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  Speaker 4: was good for the players to be out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't particularly think that we glean anything from it.
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  Speaker 4: The only thing I would glean from it yesterday is
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  Speaker 4: you wanted to see Calvin Ridley look the part. He
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  Speaker 4: looked a part. Unsurprising, but good to check that box.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's check out big things because we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: touch on just that coming up. So big thing one
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  Speaker 3: is attendance. We just mentioned it. Other than those three
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  Speaker 3: players that John just mentioned, there was a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people out there. Everybody was in attendance today. Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 3: does put some emphasis on the fact it is an
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  Speaker 3: optional thing to be a part of OTA's but he
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  Speaker 3: was very happy to see the turnout.
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  Speaker 6: That's why we have such a high high percentage of
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  Speaker 6: guys that are here.
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  Speaker 7: You know, in this in this type of voluntary, in
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  Speaker 7: this world of voluntary offseason program, we have the amount
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  Speaker 7: of guys that we do have here.
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  Speaker 6: They understand the type of work that we do, and
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  Speaker 6: you know, that goes a long way. That goes a
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  Speaker 6: long way, not only just this time of the year,
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  Speaker 6: but you.
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  Speaker 7: Get into December and January as we talk, and that's
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  Speaker 7: where the trust and and you know, sort of that
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  Speaker 7: camaraderie come into play.
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  Speaker 6: But we're building that foundation. You know, every year is
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  Speaker 6: a different year, Every team's a different year.
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  Speaker 7: Last year is done and it's in the rearview mirror
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  Speaker 7: and we're still trying to establish, you know, another.
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  Speaker 6: Team this year and putting all those pieces together.
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  Speaker 7: But that trust factor, I think in having that in
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  Speaker 7: me and me and them goes a long way to
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  Speaker 7: the reason why I think we have so many people.
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  Speaker 3: Here, huge turnout, lots of buy in big thing Number
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  Speaker 3: two assignment football. So obviously this time of year you
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  Speaker 3: want to stay healthy. They're just wearing helmets and short
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  Speaker 3: snow tackling at this point. So a lot of it
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  Speaker 3: for Doug, he said, was just focusing on your role
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  Speaker 3: on this team and what you have to do come
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  Speaker 3: season time.
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  Speaker 7: You know, in this time of the year right now,
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  Speaker 7: it's all about just assignment football. You know, there's no
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  Speaker 7: there's no contact, the physicalities out of football, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and it's just about assignments, and we're wanting to see
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  Speaker 7: the young guys you know, incorporated in there. We want
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  Speaker 7: to see the veterans just take another step in leadership
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  Speaker 7: and just understanding, you know, what we're asking them to do.
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  Speaker 7: And it's just a matter of you know, not getting
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  Speaker 7: anybody hurt this time of the year. You just don't
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  Speaker 7: want me setbacks that way, you know.
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  Speaker 2: This close to camp, Okay, and Big Thing three are
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  Speaker 2: going to be that new guy.
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  Speaker 3: We just talked about Calvin Ridley, the first look we've
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  Speaker 3: kind of seen of him with the team actually playing.
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  Speaker 3: He was held out of some activities yesterday, not injury related,
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  Speaker 3: just kind of trying to get into the mix with everything.
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  Speaker 3: But Press Taylor said he is very excited to have
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  Speaker 3: him here.
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  Speaker 8: I've watched every snap Calvin's playing in the NFL, just
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  Speaker 8: like a lot of our guys out. So we're very
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  Speaker 8: confident in the player we're getting. And then to be
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  Speaker 8: able to meet him in person, you know, you kind
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  Speaker 8: of We've got a lot of people to vouch for him,
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  Speaker 8: obviously going back to when we acquired him, but the
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  Speaker 8: work he's put in this office, he has been impressive,
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  Speaker 8: just in terms of meeting the extra work he does,
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  Speaker 8: and you can tell he's doing it because he comes
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  Speaker 8: to the next day, he's got his list of questions.
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  Speaker 8: They're very thought out. You can tell he's peeked ahead
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  Speaker 8: of the install or just looking a couple days ahead
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  Speaker 8: as we go one. So he's done a great job
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  Speaker 8: just intermixing with the group and kind of making his
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  Speaker 8: own role.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly is let's talk about Calvin.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the guy everybody wanted to have eyes
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  Speaker 3: on yesterday, right in terms of, you know, they're not
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  Speaker 3: doing a whole lot, but just to be able to
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  Speaker 3: see him out there running with everybody. What were your observations, Wheney,
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  Speaker 3: We did see him in because he was held out
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  Speaker 3: of a couple of things.
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  Speaker 4: John. I saw one play where he was insanely open
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  Speaker 4: for the route he was running. That's what he does
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  Speaker 4: my understanding, And I haven't heard this anybody officially, but
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  Speaker 4: I've heard it sort of in the water. The only
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  Speaker 4: concern with him is trying to hold him back so
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  Speaker 4: he didn't hurt himself. Right, He's working so hard and
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  Speaker 4: he's so into it. I don't know if that's who
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  Speaker 4: he is is always my senses that it is, but
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  Speaker 4: right now trying to get him with this team. So
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  Speaker 4: I think that's why he was held out yesterday. They
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  Speaker 4: want to make sure he's there for training camp. To me,
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  Speaker 4: I saw I needed to see yesterday put him on
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  Speaker 4: ice and having ready for July twenty seven.
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  Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. There are guys who are really great
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  Speaker 5: technical route runners, right, and that's how they get open.
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  Speaker 5: And he looked like a really great technical route runner.
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  Speaker 5: But he didn't get open yesterday because of technicalities. He
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  Speaker 5: got open because of athleticism. My just perception one day,
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  Speaker 5: one practice, one hour was that this guy is supremely
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  Speaker 5: gifted as an athlete and is polished as a technical receiver.
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  Speaker 5: So his ability to do both is what has made
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  Speaker 5: him a really good receiver in this league. And just
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  Speaker 5: looking at him and Kirk and Jay Jones and imagining
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  Speaker 5: Evan Ingram and what they can do with Travis etn
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  Speaker 5: and then you kind of mix in Brenton Strange and
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  Speaker 5: Tank Picksby, you can get really excited. But of all those,
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  Speaker 5: it's the Ridley part that is the most intriguing, just
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  Speaker 5: because he's that explosive, big play guy and.
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  Speaker 4: This is not a knock on what they had.
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  Speaker 5: What they had was really really good.
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  Speaker 4: He seems to me a level up of any receiver
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  Speaker 4: they've had, and not just based on yesterday, but everything
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  Speaker 4: you hear and then seen it yesterday. His numbers spare
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  Speaker 4: that out pure athleticism. Being that sort of a player,
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  Speaker 4: I have to believe that Doug and Press are really
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  Speaker 4: excited about what that's going to mean for Ridley and
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  Speaker 4: then what's going to mean for the rest of this offense.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be if they stay healthy, it'll
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  Speaker 4: be the best offensive teams ever had.
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  Speaker 5: Now, having said that, the best throw of the day
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  Speaker 5: was to throw down the middle and play action from
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  Speaker 5: Trevor to Christian Kirk where he caught it over his
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  Speaker 5: shoulder and that was almost yeah, okay, no problem. It
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  Speaker 5: was clear and it should be that Trevor Lawrence and
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  Speaker 5: this offense in year two together, he just he's mastered it. Mastered,
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  Speaker 5: maybe a little strong, he's really got a mastery of
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  Speaker 5: it with the opportunity to get even better. Just simply
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  Speaker 5: where he's throwing the ball quickly, decisively. Didn't look like
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  Speaker 5: he didn't expect anything that he saw. And again we
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  Speaker 5: go on and on and on because it's OTAs and
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  Speaker 5: they're running against air and all of that. But it's
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  Speaker 5: just John. How many times did we talk about it
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  Speaker 5: over the years, we were comparing the Jags passing offense,
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  Speaker 5: whether it was you know, Blaine Gabbard or Blake Bortles
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  Speaker 5: or whoever the quarterback was, to what you used to
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  Speaker 5: see in Indy. And the ball was always on the
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  Speaker 5: ground in Jacksonville, always on the ground. You used to say,
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  Speaker 5: it was never on the ground in Indy. Yesterday the
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  Speaker 5: ball was in receiver's hands.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I didn't make that comparison very often, but be.
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  Speaker 5: Clear, I wasn't comparing, but it was pretty clear that
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  Speaker 5: an efficient passing offense, where the best passing offense is
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  Speaker 5: one where the ball in practice is not on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: The adding of weapons to this offense and a what
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  Speaker 4: is it an eighteen month period basically Christian Kirk Evan
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  Speaker 4: Ingram Travis atn healthy up, it's been a complete turnover,
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  Speaker 4: and again I think it's got a chance to be
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  Speaker 4: one of the top three offense in the league next year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting because you don't need to know anything
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  Speaker 3: about football. See Calvin Ridley out there and know that
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  Speaker 3: he's athletic and he's going to be able to get
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  Speaker 3: himself open no matter what the play is, so whether
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  Speaker 3: or not, which he's also working really hard to get
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  Speaker 3: to understand this offense, but just physically he's able to
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  Speaker 3: get himself there well.
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  Speaker 5: And then there were a couple of passes yesterday to
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  Speaker 5: a guy that we haven't mentioned yet, Jamal Agnew, who
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  Speaker 5: won't have to play that role, that sort of switch
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  Speaker 5: role as often because there are more targets. But when
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  Speaker 5: you do put him on the field, I mean, he's
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  Speaker 5: capable of making a play that very few other guys could.
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  Speaker 5: So there are and now you mixing Press Taylor and
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  Speaker 5: Mike McCoy with Doug Peterson and there's just a nice
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  Speaker 5: exciting chemistry project going on.
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  Speaker 4: There's no weakness. I mean last year, when you look
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  Speaker 4: at this offense, the one thing you sort of always
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  Speaker 4: thought was, well, it maybe don't quite have a one.
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  Speaker 4: Well it looks like they've got a one now. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. It didn't even to hold him back last year,
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  Speaker 4: but I think what Ridley's going to bring them is
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  Speaker 4: more consistency. They got it later in the season anyway,
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  Speaker 4: but having a guy who they who Trevor trust implicitly
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  Speaker 4: on third down. I just when you think about the
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  Speaker 4: real way games play out, you can just see a
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  Speaker 4: guy like Ridley giving them one more third down conversion
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  Speaker 4: in each half, and think about that how that can
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  Speaker 4: tilt a game in your favor. I think he's going
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  Speaker 4: to make himself better and everybody on this team better, and.
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  Speaker 3: It helps the rest of the group out. You can
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  Speaker 3: tell they're just it's getting everybody that little bit of
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  Speaker 3: extra out there, right, because even when you add someone
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  Speaker 3: like that, it's not really like it's taking away necessarily
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  Speaker 3: from your playing time because that opens up a lot
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  Speaker 3: of stuff for other people because you've got to cover
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  Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley every play, so that's going to open up
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  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff for the other wide receivers.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and you talk about getting more out of everyone else.
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  Speaker 5: To watch that's the offensive lineman, right, And it's tough
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  Speaker 5: because they're not doing the same things they'll do in summer.
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  Speaker 5: But to watch the way that Brandon Sheriff was hitting
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  Speaker 5: the bag, right. I Mean, we talked last week about
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  Speaker 5: Anton Harrison and the difference between the number one pick
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  Speaker 5: and a guy who came maybe in the undrafted right.
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  Speaker 5: You see Brandon Sheriff out there hitting the bag, and
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  Speaker 5: even Luke Fortner was coming back for year two and
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  Speaker 5: Walker Little and there's an he'd used his word because
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  Speaker 5: everyone wants to pick it apart, but there was an intensity.
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  Speaker 5: They understand they've got three weeks here, and I think
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  Speaker 5: in the back of their mind they're thinking, hey, Doug
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  Speaker 5: gave us mini camp off last year, right, if we
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  Speaker 5: come work really hard, which is what they did last
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  Speaker 5: year to get that off. But they also understand that
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  Speaker 5: there's something here and they want to maximize it. They
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  Speaker 5: don't want to miss this opportunity. And you could see
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  Speaker 5: it across the field yesterday, both sides of the ball. Lineman,
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  Speaker 5: defensive backs, wide receivers, they were all working with a
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  Speaker 5: level of hey man, let's not miss this intensity.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they may, you know, it's hard to predict the future,
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  Speaker 4: but they may never be as loaded offensively as they
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  Speaker 4: are right now because we have to re sign Trevor.
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  Speaker 4: It may change the dynamic in terms of I don't
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  Speaker 4: know that they'll have a Zay Jones, Kirk Ridley, Ingram Strange.
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  Speaker 4: Those seem like they could be five to six really
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  Speaker 4: top end guys with Trevor signing later. It may come
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  Speaker 4: down to where they have two really dynamic and you
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  Speaker 4: can win with that.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: But this group, certainly, you don't get the idea they
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  Speaker 4: will be no group together forever. The time is now
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  Speaker 4: for this group.
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  Speaker 5: And that was evident on the field just today. They
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  Speaker 5: see that.
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit about Doug talking
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  Speaker 3: about assignment football. Right, So we've gotten to the point
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of veterans returning to this team, and
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  Speaker 3: I think, maybe correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 2: You guys were here.
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  Speaker 3: But for the first time, maybe people aren't being asked
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  Speaker 3: to do more than their own job. They are literally
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  Speaker 3: going to have just very specific roles they're going to fill.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we'll talk a little bit about the running
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  Speaker 3: back room and you know what some of the tight
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  Speaker 3: ends are expected to do. But this is exciting when
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  Speaker 3: you get to this point because of the depth that
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to add to this roster. You're not trying
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  Speaker 3: to fill. You know, we're not going to have Etn
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  Speaker 3: making every single carry this season. He's going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to share that role with some people. And for
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  Speaker 3: the first time, when you have a good team, you
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  Speaker 3: want to be able to do that and have that versatility.
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  Speaker 5: I think another way to say that John is the
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  Speaker 5: entire playbook is open. You know, so Doug came in
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  Speaker 5: here last year with a young quarterback, and Christian Kirk
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  Speaker 5: and Zay Jones and Evan Ingram were sensations we didn't
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  Speaker 5: know they were going to be right now, all of
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  Speaker 5: a sudden you mix in Calvin Ingram And what does
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  Speaker 5: that do for Jamal Ingram and Tank Bigsby and what
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  Speaker 5: does that do for Travis etn. So what you're essentially
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  Speaker 5: saying is is that Doug, who maybe had a third
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  Speaker 5: of what he wanted to do last year, you know,
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  Speaker 5: now maybe this year he can go all the way
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  Speaker 5: and put plays in that he didn't even think about
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  Speaker 5: thinking about last year.
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  Speaker 4: I think you both said it the right way it.
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  Speaker 4: I think about Christian Kirk, who was is a fine
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  Speaker 4: last year and had a really, really, really good year.
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  Speaker 4: I think his role will be more defined and more
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  Speaker 4: natural with Ridley here. Now to say Christian can't step
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  Speaker 4: up and be a go to one at times, but
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  Speaker 4: I think his role really in the slot and as
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  Speaker 4: somebody who can come out of the slot and play
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  Speaker 4: every spot when needed. Much more defined for him, and
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  Speaker 4: I do think Kyle's point is exactly right. You now
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  Speaker 4: have a situation where it was strange. You think by
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  Speaker 4: the end of the season, you can go to two
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  Speaker 4: tight end sets. You don't have to have Etn on
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  Speaker 4: the field every play. You can have Tank Bigsby on
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  Speaker 4: the field at times giving him some relief. So it's
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  Speaker 4: I said during the draft to me, they found a
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  Speaker 4: way to get Doug. I don't call it the best
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  Speaker 4: offense he's ever had, because Philly was really good in seventeen,
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  Speaker 4: but these receivers on paper are better than Philly's receivers
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  Speaker 4: that year. The tight ends you know who knows. But
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  Speaker 4: it's back to I think the full deck of cards
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  Speaker 4: that he had and.
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  Speaker 5: Fell in and even some of those aces or jokers,
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  Speaker 5: if you will. I mean, think about what we heard
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  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one before Travis Etn got hurt, the
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  Speaker 5: different ways they could use him in the slot, in
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  Speaker 5: the wing. Now, with Tank Bigsby here, Doug and Press
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  Speaker 5: can unleash him in a number of creative different ways.
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  Speaker 5: And that's Doug's style, is to be really creative with
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  Speaker 5: his matchups a guy like Etn because of Bixby. I
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  Speaker 5: mean that's really interesting to think about how they'll use
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  Speaker 5: him and where they can stack him as a wide receiver,
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  Speaker 5: maybe behind Kirk or in a three receiver formation, a
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  Speaker 5: bunch formation with tight ends. I mean, there's just there's
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  Speaker 5: no limit to the creativity and that's what's really cool.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think it has to take good carries
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  Speaker 4: away from Travis and oh no, he's still that. That's
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  Speaker 4: always the thing. People want to create contorts. Well, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to take carries away from Travis. I think what
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  Speaker 4: they can do now with Travis is run him until
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  Speaker 4: he needs a break and then not worry about out
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  Speaker 4: trying to, you know, manage his carrie necessarily. I'm telling
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  Speaker 4: you last year, late in the season, every time he
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  Speaker 4: was down because he runs hard and as and when
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  Speaker 4: you run hard, you get banged up. The times have
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  Speaker 4: to come out of the game. You kind of held
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  Speaker 4: your breath when he was coming out of the game,
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  Speaker 4: hoping he'd find a way to get back in. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think you're gonna be holding your breath as much
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  Speaker 4: as Tank.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: No, And let me be more specific with it. Do
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: you remember twenty eighteen they had a package with Leonard
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Fournette and Corey Grant that they were incredibly excited about
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: because they had so many different clever ways to use them.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Corey Grant was a shorter but incredibly fast, elusive back,
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: and of course Leonard is a pounder and Leonard popped
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: his hamstring on opening Day in New York that year
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: and they never got to unleash it because three weeks later, Corey,
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: you know, had the foot injury in Kansas City was
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: dead in the water. Well, now, with two backs like this,
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: the possibilities with these two guys is endless. They're both
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: different style runners.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: And in the current NFL you have to have multiple
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: running backs. That's just by the nature of that position.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: People are gonna get hurt, and you don't want everybody.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: You don't want Etn making the bulk with those carries.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: You want to give him some breaks. We're gonna actually
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: hear from him. It's coming up in the B block.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: We'll hear from the players after OTA day number one,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: So stay with us for that. Welcome back to Drive
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Time here today on Tuesday, May twenty third, I'm kay Nannie, Stevens,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Brian and John with me here today. We got to
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: see a little bit over an hour and a half
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: actually yesterday of OTA day number one in the books
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: for twenty twenty three, and they don't do a ton
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: out there, but we did get to speak to them
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: after and that's always nice. And as we mentioned earlier,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: great attendance, other than a couple of guys that we
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: kind of expected wouldn't be here right now, so I
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: do want to talk. I got to catch up with
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Rashan Jenkins, and obviously he's always vocal, he likes to talk,
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: but he was saying that, you know, after last year,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: one of his best seasons here in Jacksonville, he's really
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: looking forward to kind of improving upon and that they're
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: really thinking about that big game in February.
• 17:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Absolutely, we saw just the potential that our team
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: had and you know, that small little bit of success
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: that we were able to have, and I feel like
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: guys are just more hungry for that, and I feel
• 17:16
  Speaker 9: like that's just a good you know, this is a
• 17:19
  Speaker 9: good goal to chase, you know, that super Bowl. You know,
• 17:22
  Speaker 9: everybody wants a Super Bowl. But the work starts now.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: You got to put in the work now, and it
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: doesn't come come easy. We gotta say, and work to win.
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: You know, you're not just going to step out there
• 17:30
  Speaker 9: and win. You got to work for it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Right now, hopefully speaking into existence, I would imagine.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: He's a great example John because remember in twenty twenty one,
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: he was a liability and coverage right now. Part of
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: the problem was is that they had all sorts of
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: issues in twenty twenty one, but you didn't know what
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: you were going to get from him. In twenty twenty two.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: You hope that he would be that guy that Trent
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Balkey talked about when they signed him in the spring
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: of twenty twenty one. And of course he gave us
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: two of the most memorable plays in Jaguars history, the
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: interception in an overtime that beat the Cowboys and the
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: sack that set up the game winning touchdown by Josh
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Allen that put this team in the playoffs. I mean,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: those are two of the top five defensive plays in
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: NFL histor or sorry, not NFL Jaguars anyway, Jaguars's and
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: they came from Rayeon Jenkins. So now, if you if
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd right or Trayvon Walker more particularly takes a
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: huge step like he did from year one to year two,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Oh gosh, holy cow. Right, But I just I look
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: at him and I think, my goodness, none of us
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: saw last year coming, and now you look at him
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: and expect him to make plays like that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Well, Raychean sorted to find the defense in a way.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Last year it wasn't really a great defense. It had
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: stretches where you worried about it, but it also was
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: fourth in the league in takeaways. They made plays when
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: they were there to be made, and Rayshawn certainly defined that.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure he was great in coverage all year,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: but when those plays are there to be made, he
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: made them. You're sort of walking on a little bit
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: of a line when you do that. But as the
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: way this defense is gonna have to.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Play, I think it's exciting too when you see a
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: team obviously that shows flashes, right because if you have
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: that ability, and you we know that ability is there,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of it's going to be, you know, continuity,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: being able to do that all season long. And I
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: really feel like that's the focus right now because obviously,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: you know they didn't finish the season. Everybody wants to win
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, So other than the Chiefs, everybody was
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: unhappy with the way their season finished last year, but
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: you really feel like they turned the page a little bit.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: But they're focused on just continuing that and not putting
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: themselves in a hole where they have.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: To win a bunch of games in a row at
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the end of the year.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: You know, at this time last year, we were talking
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: about the Jaguars learning to trust. You remember that was
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: a big conversation because Doug talked about it. The Urban
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Meyer thing was just such a disaster and we're like, Okay,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: how long will it take them to recover? A year later,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: we're talking about them talking about being in.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: The Super Bowl, and that alone is impressive.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, that tells you what Doug and Trent and
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: their entire staff on both sides were able to do
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: last year. But it tells you how much this team
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: believes in their quarterback. I mean, they raycheon Jay just
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: not talking about all the pass rush is going to
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: take down the quarterback. Now you don't have to say it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: They believe in the quarterback. They know what he's capable
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: of do it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: And obviously you talk about mental toughness and visualization and
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: what you need to do in the off season, but
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of places where people won't even say that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: They're like, we're taking it one game in time. They
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: won't even think that way. But there's several players we've
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: talked to in the off season and that really is
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: a focus for them this year. You know, super Bowl
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: is a thought in their mind, and it's nice to
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: be at a spot where you're like, yeah, that could actually happen.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: It's not a far fetched, like crazy idea.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, ratchet it up a little bit, improve in a
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: couple of key areas, and that's within reach for this team.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It's very exciting.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I think we're gonna talk a little bit about Travis
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Etn because we mentioned him earlier and that running back
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: room is really exciting. He talked a little bit about
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: what he's seen out of Tank Bigsby so far and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: what it's like working with him.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I like Tank.
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: I feel like he's very passionate. I feel like he
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: loves a game of football, and I feel like that's
• 20:54
  Speaker 10: the guys you want around you. That's the guy who's
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: going to push her to be great each and every
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: day because he's looking up to me, and I want
• 21:01
  Speaker 10: to be I want to be a greatest album for him.
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: I want him to see how this is a bit professional.
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: So he's going to push me to get better, and
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: I'm going to push him to get better.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: He also talked a little bit about taking the load
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: off of him. He's excited about it, which you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: some people could see it as competition less carries for me,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I want more carries.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: But he's excited. He's like, oh, yeah, take some of
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the hits off me.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I'll be able to play a little bit more and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: be a little more outside of the box.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I meane in that way, everyone wants to be their best.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: But what I understand about him, and he talks about
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: it when he talks about he and Trevor in particular,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: he's a winner. He came from Clemson where all they
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: did was win. That kid wants to win whatever it takes. Yeah,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: whatever it takes. If it means that he has four
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: or five less carries a game, I don't think he cares.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I think winning. You can hear it in his voice,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: you can see it in his eyes if you're standing
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: around him in front of him. It might not come
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: through on the video, but he's all about winning, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: he knows he's going to contribute. He's very confident in
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: his ability.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Travis really surprised me last year. I knew he was good,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I didn't realize that he was as tough for runner
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: as he is. And I know, ky, when you watch
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: this kid play, he's inside the tackles and if he's
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: if he's being brought down. He never gives up on
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: a play and therefore he takes a lot of punishment.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think he can be great Travis unless he
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: is running that way, meaning unless he is giving everything
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: he's got under play. I don't think he's a step
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: out of bounds running back. If you're going to be
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: that kind of a player right now in this league,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: it's a running back, you need another guy in the
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: backfield with you. So I think I think Bigsby I'm
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: glad that he I think Travis sort of sees that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I think it's what he's sort of saying when he
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: says that, And I think it'll be a really good
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: backfield combination, and I think it will benefit him even
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: if it takes two carries away a game.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's exciting, the combo of them together. Also
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Etan mentioned how much he appreciates Doug's perspective of if
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: he does fumble or put the ball on the ground,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: that he's still going to get the ball back. He's
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: not a coach that's like, Okay, you're not touching it
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: for the rest of the game. So that's not something
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: he fears. With another running back in the room, he
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: knows he's still going to get the ball back. And
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: with running backs, a lot of it is confidence and
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: trust that you're you know, if you do mess up,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: you can still get it back, because if you get
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: in their own head about it, sometimes that can backfire
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: on you. But it's it's nice to hear that he's
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: so appreciative of the relationship he has with Doug.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Well. I appreciated about the fact how many times last
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: year we're like, oh, because he had a tendency to lose.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, he needs to appreciate that less this year.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and fair enough, fair enough, But the point being
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: is that he rebounded and it was you know, you
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: can argue that his twenty five yard run out here
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: to set up the game winning field goal was you know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: the pivotal game at this play of the season, right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was an amazing run and for a
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: guy who struggled with the ball in traffic at times,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: So his confidence level is really really high. I just
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I wasn't sure what we were going to get from him,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: but his explosiveness was onspire.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. From talking to Doug early in the season, Combine
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: or somewhere, I got the impression they really really think
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: that Travis is going to improve a lot. He wasn't
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: talking about the fumbles, but remember last year was Travis'
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: first year in the NFL and playing at a level
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: where he got hit a lot, and he was playing
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: against players who were as good as he was. He
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: got run down a couple of times, and I still
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: think it's because he had never been run down at
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Clemson because he was always playing against people he was
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: better than. So I think the fumbles may have had
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: something to do with that too. I think you'll see
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: a much better, more polished version of Travis atn this year.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Does he have the same amount of yardage, I don't know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: but I think he'll be a more effective player this year.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Exciting for sure.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: We're gonna check in our last time, but hear from
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: the players Walker Little obviously, offensive line is something there's
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of moving pieces there right now, But he
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: was just talking about getting ready for the season and
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to play.
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: Good time to kind of distress and calm down and
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: the locks a little bit. But then yeah, definitely, especially
• 24:56
  Speaker 11: last few weeks being back here, it's good time to
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: kind of crank it up and start working on techniques.
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: And obviously we don't want anyone to get suspended or
• 25:02
  Speaker 11: her or anything. I don't want cannabis time. But yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: I mean it's a chance for me to play and
• 25:07
  Speaker 11: I'm excited about that.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: So obviously Cam Robinson potentially out, we don't have full
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: details on that yet. Anton Harrison, you know, your first
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: run draft pick, and to come in here and be on.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: The right side.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: There's room for a movement.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of versatility, which Doug loves because he
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: feels like you can play people in different positions. John,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: what are you looking at with this starting or going
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to training campus?
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Laughed? When I was talking to Walker, that was a
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: short part of the conversation. I was there most of
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: the time, and I kind of asked him at the end.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I said, so if Cam comes back or move around,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: sort of get into the idea that you know, he's
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: gonna start the season or left tackle. What happens if
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: he moves around? Yeah, and he kind of laughed and
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: he said, I've moved everywhere on this Like he's moved
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: around so much that he basically says he comes to
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: work every day and just kind of listens to what
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Phil wants him to do, you Phil Rosher, And he
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: had a great attitude about he said it, like I've
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: been doing this two years. I've been on the right,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: the left side, whatever. Mark along State of Press asked
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: him if he was a right tackler or left tackle,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: and he said, but whatever. Yeah. So I think he
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: really has a good attitude toward it. I think he
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: will be the left tackle, if not all this year
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: moving forward after that, I think he's going to be
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: good at that. But I love his attitude toward it
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: right now. He's a pro now, Brian, He's ready for
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: whatever comes at him.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I can remember standing with Tony Boselli
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: and Jeff Logoman at training camp his rookie year twenty
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: twenty one, and they marveled at how athletic he is. Right,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: So we talked about Calvin Ridley and you can see
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: the athleticism because he's running and he's jumping. You don't
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: see that with an offensive lineman. It was the way
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: that he was, you know, deep in his stance and
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: able to turn his body back to the inside and
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: make eye contact with a quarterback that impressed these two guys. Right,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: he is a really gifted athlete, and he's always looked
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: the part, and then late last year he got the
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: chance to actually act the part out going on the
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: whole acting thing again, very nice. Aw, He's he is
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: a really gifted athlete and football player, and I'm with you, John,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: I think he's gonna plug in there on the left
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: side and it's going to be hard to move him out.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Certainly, the mentality is good, right. Obviously, offensive line there
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: always pretty selfless in general just by nature. But to
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: hear that, you know he's willing to play wherever it is.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: And we've learned from past seasons that injury bug tends
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: to hit there. So it's not the worst thing in
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: the world to have more than a couple of bodies
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: that can play multiple positions, So that is definitely key
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: for them. So coming up, we're going to do ozone
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: snapshot and get a look at some of your questions
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: for John and we'll give you the answers.
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: Stay with us, this podcast is friendly.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Oh so welcome in your favorite time of the week
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: ozone mail bag and we get to check in with John.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: We can ask all of the questions you want and
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: he will give you the answers. We're going to check
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: out question number one, Bad from Sparks, Nevada says the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Jaguars went from a Tier five team to the top
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of Tier two in one season. Do you think if
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: they stay healthy that they will be a top two
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: seed in the AFC this year?
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I think if they stay healthy, they can be.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: The reason I hesitate is the top three in the
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: AFC are really good. Yes, so I think you can
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: be a lot better than you were last year. I
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: think you can be a really good team. I even
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: think you can be a team that in some years
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: in the AFC might have gone to the super Bowl.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: But it's also very conceivable that you have a really
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: good year next year you run into the Bengals in
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: the in the you know what, I guess the question
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: was seeding, so it would be, oh, you're gonna have
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: the second best record in the AFC, I doubt it. Frankly,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I think they'll be really really good. I'm thinking they
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: can be eleven twelve wins ish, But I think there's
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: still going to be a young team that has some flubbs.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: They can do it. I don't think it's a failure
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: at all there if they're the three or four seed
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: against three very very good franchises right now.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Well, so he asks if they stay healthy, And there's
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: another side to that coin, and that is just Pat
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Mahomes stay healthy? Does Joe Burrow stay healthy? Is Jamar
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Chase on the field, what happens with Josh Allen? I
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: remember nineteen ninety nine, the Jets, coming off of an
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: AFC championship game, were the favorite in the AFC, and
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars were thought to be the second or third
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: best team in the league. Benny Testaverdi Pops's Achilles tendon.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: You know, the first or second series of their opening
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: day game in New York and all of a sudden
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: they're playing with Rick Meyer and Mark Brunell and the Jags.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Totally different season, right, Totally different seasons. So it isn't
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: just about you staying healthy, It's about what does your
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: opponent look like by the time you get to see them.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It's so hard to predict, obviously, and then you even
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: see the Chiefs, like, you know, maybe like last year,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the last couple of years, they lose a couple of
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: regular season games they probably should have won and they
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: end up, you know, dealing with lower seeding than they
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: probably should have. So sometimes that doesn't even matter until
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: you get into the playoffs, right, So I guess we'll
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: wait and see. I'm not a big prediction of records
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: because it's not hard.
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  Speaker 4: There's going to be a team now that you talk
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  Speaker 4: about as a potential conference finalist, yes, every year, and
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  Speaker 4: how it falls, attrition, how other teams play it all
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  Speaker 4: play into that. But I think they'd be good.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: And look, we've missed on predictions year after year after year. However,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: last year we said, right, seven eight wins and at
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: the outset if everything goes right, nine right, and at
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: one point they're two and six and you're thinking, well,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: that doesn't look very good, and then it happens.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you had that order though, right.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: No, I didn't pick him, just said, you know, seven, eight, nine,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: and it played out that way because the quarterback got
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: hot and found a rhythm with his receivers and the
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: defense did just enough.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: All right, let's check in on special teams for question too,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: justin from Duvall. Of course, do you expect any more
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: kicker drama this upcoming season? Or does Riley Patterson have
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: that spot locked up?
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  Speaker 2: John?
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  Speaker 4: Credit to Riley because when he first when I first
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: got this question, I couldn't remember the kicker drama and
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: then a sort of job in my memory. I remember
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: they had in training camp they had I think it
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: was thirty seven kickers as we were getting kicked daily. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so does he have it locked up? I think he's
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the guy going in. Yeah. I think right now. The
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: comparison I would use is Logan Cook, for example, Hill
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Logan Cook is the lockdown punter on this team, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: he has shown he is an elite punter in the NFL.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I don't think Riley's there. I think he has shown
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: that he can kick in this league and that he
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: can be a good kicker. I think it's his I
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: don't know that they are just jumping over themselves to
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: get him out. I think if he continues to perform
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  Speaker 4: as he did last year, I think he'll be fine.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: It's his until it's not right. I mean, it's one
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: of your famous sayings. If he goes into camp and
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: he performs, well, there's no reason to make a change.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: But he was a little bit air. There were some
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: kicks late in the year last year that you went
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: is that gonna go? So he's gonna have to have
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: a good camp and then he's going to have to perform.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: And if he does, I think he's the kind of
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: guy who can develop and become a long term guy.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Is he justin Tucker?
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: No?
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Who is? There aren't many of those guys and if
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: you find him, you go draft him. But Riley had
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: a good year last year and made a couple of
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: really big kicks, So I don't see why he wouldn't be.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Kicking is such a fickle position because you feel like
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: they have it locked up, they have a couple of
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: bad games, and then depending on how your coaching staff
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: feels about it, you could have two, three, four new
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: guys in here the next week.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: I was on the sidelines as he lined up to
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: kick that one against the Chargers last year. I've been
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: up seiars with Fred and we came down and we're
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: standing there and I just put myself in his shoes
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: for a moment. Thought they were down twenty seven to nothing,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: they battled back. They have a chance. You win the game,
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: and it's all on you. I mean, put yourself in
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: that pressure pack situation for just a moment. If he
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: can make that kick, I mean, that's a guy that
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: you like. You want him makes it here?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, let not.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: You're just at the foot, So good luck to him.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: He's better not missed an extra point in the preseason
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: because everyone's gonna be calling for was it James McCourt.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: It's always somebody, right, He'll have his chance though. All right,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: we're gonna wrap things up with John from Jacksonville. He says,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: if you ask me, the current state of the stadium
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: is the best it has ever been. So is the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: underbelly of the stadium that bad?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Doesn't look bad to me.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: In Grave.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: We got a little leak back here this.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Way or in the underbelly.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: So it's uh, look, uh, I'm kidding. We do have
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: a leak. It's fine. I can deal with that. It's
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: if you I understand there are people who see this
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: stadium and they come in and it is probably as
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: nice as it's been for a long time with the
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: video with the amenities, uh.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Forward facing fan facing, that's what we.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Have been terrific ad But when they made those changes
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: and there's improvements over the last decade, at no point
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: did they ever think, Okay, we're making these improvements. We're fine,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: we don't need a new stadium. It was always knowledge
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: that right now is going to be about the end
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: of to use Marx phrase, at the end of useful life.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: All you have to do is go around the lead
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: to thirty two stadiums and see that this one is
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: behind the rest, and if they don't do something about it,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: it's going to be woefully behind the rest. I guess
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: it probably already is. So you can argue, you can
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: wonder whatever a new stadium or a major upgrade has
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: to happen for this team to at least hang on
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: and be in the conversation, revenue, eise with the rest
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: of the NFL.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: It's awful. I've been here for twenty million years on
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: that hallway underneath it has always leaked. It's always been.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: They built the stadium in nineteen months because they didn't
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: want to go play in games bill, and they put
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: the stadium up and it's fine, but in terms of
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: the space that football has, the space that the front
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: office has, the quality of it. I mean it's leaking
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: in here. Come on, it's a studio, right, And it's
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: not that they don't try to fix it, but it's
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: hard to do that. Yes, let alone the expansion joins
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: around this place and the air conditioning and I'm not
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: qualified to tell you what's wrong with it. It looks
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: old and if you don't fix it now, it will
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: cost you so much more because you won't be able
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: to use the bones of the stadium, as Marcus said,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: to be able to build and renovate. At some point
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: you go, well I can. I got to just tear
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: that all the way down. So they're making a decision
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: now based on as John just said, useful life. But
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: what you can't see you don't want to see.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Trust me, you have a Marque talent and Trevor Lawrence,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: you got to build around and right, you're going to
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: make it somewhere people want to come watch football games.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: And when you look at some of these other stadiums
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: going and not that we have to go that far,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: but you know, so fi Las Vegas, like some of
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: these places are amazing.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: Well, they just they're about to open the Miller Electric Center,
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: which is a spectacle.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Huge jump. We should give them credit for that huge
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: jump up.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: Huge jump up, because if you want to play with
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: the best teams in this league, you've got to be
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: on an even preparation field from classrooms to the weight room,
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: to the meals, to all of those things. And that
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: facility is what this facility needs to become.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: It's the biggest, most popular professional sport in the country. Yes,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: if you're going to play in this league, you've got
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: to you have to pay to be in this league
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: in terms of stadium, and.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: The facility should reflect that for sure, especially for these
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: guys coming out of college, because some of their facilities
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: are better there than.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe they were here.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: But we are very excited about that practice facility going in,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: hopefully opening up in a couple of weeks. All right,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: stick with us, we'll be right back. We'll give you
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: a preview of what we've got coming up the rest
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: of the week. Now that OTAs are underway, Move.
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• 37:11
  Speaker 3: you want to check it out. So OTAs kicked off yesterday.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: We were able to dodge the rain out there, so
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: that was nice because the rest of the week looks
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: like it's gonna be really raining, probably inside, but we
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: do some stuff coming up this week.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks is in the building.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: We saw him out yesterday, so he'll be here for
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: to join JP later on this week.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: And John, what are you working on?
• 37:32
  Speaker 13: Well, I'll be also on I'm sorry the Star the
• 37:36
  Speaker 13: Stars apologize to me right, you know, and I expect
• 37:41
  Speaker 13: We are trying to get Tyson Campbell for the ozone
• 37:43
  Speaker 13: podcast and if things go well, we will have that
• 37:46
  Speaker 13: on posting on Thursday.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: And the reason BUCkies here just to give folks a
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: flavor of how close we are is to we've got
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: preseason television meetings, Yes we do, right, so we're not
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: that far away and we're already starting to talk about that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: It's it's right around the corner.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Oh so, very very exciting.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Hopefully, no news is good news for the rest of
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: outa's because we're not too too much going on, but
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: we will check in with them after the long weekend
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: on Tuesday, so thank you for joining us. That's it
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: for jaggs drivetime today.