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The Falcons Have Arrived And Boston Sports Media Bros Are a Plague On Society · The Regulars

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  NFL Week 4 comes to a close, and man, oh man, the NFL
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  is still quite drunk. Karl-Anthony Towns, it doesn't matter if
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  you're a New York City hero, you're on the trade block for some fucking reason.
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  And of course, of course, lanterns.
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  Holy shit, lanterns. Hal Jordan forever.
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  We're amongst friends. We got sports to talk about. This is The Regulars. In brightest
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  day and darkest night, we will be
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  talking about fucking football.
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  Cheers, Cody.
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  Welcome, my friends. We got a long night ahead of us. Lots to talk about,
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  a lot of things to pontificate about, a lot of things to bitch about,
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  a lot of things to complain about. We got to make fun of some people
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  in our industry because holy shit, Bill Simmons just can't help himself from being a
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  misogynist. Fuck, dude, it is. I'm not gonna lie, Media Corner is all just the
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  worst white men Boston has produced in our industry.
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  Basically, my entire course correct— I exist to course correct. You're trying
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  to fix Boston for all of the people we have exported out of the fucking
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  city. It's a bit rough. There's stuff we like, though. Let's be honest. There's some
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  stuff that we like that we're going to talk like. There is. We're not all
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  negative. No, today's actually like surprisingly a
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  really positive show because there's something you and I both completely agree on. And of
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  course, it'll be Pop Culture Corner at the end of the show. Fucking Lanterns is
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  not just a good show, not just a good comic book show. It is just
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  an incredible drama series that was so good to watch, and I'm looking very
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  forward to breaking it all down with you. The things we loved, things we might
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  not have loved. I'm— because listen, I didn't think it was perfect. There were things
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  I might have changed, but hindsight is always 20/20, and fuck did I love this
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  series. I loved it. Uh, I miss it already. Oh my God, I need season
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  2 so bad. I hate when my shows end. I need more. I need so
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  much more of this show. I'm really excited to talk to you about it.
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  But by the way, in my Substack chat last night, you know I do my
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  Monday night football chat. Like, so I, I do the Substack paid subscribers,
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  everybody can come in my chat and we just, we did, we hang. And at
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  one point, you know, uh, NFL conversation was waning and my mom
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  pops, my mom just slides in and goes, anybody,
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  uh, watch Lanterns? And like 7 people,
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  I saw in the like Discord, like 7 people start typing immediately
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  and everybody was like, holy shit, whatever. So the last like 15 minutes of my,
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  my convo, which totally great because we always sidetrack,
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  was like, fucking Lanterns. So it was very funny. We're ready for
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  the convo. I'm very excited for the convo because full transparency, and here's gonna
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  be my biggest complaint that I'm going to have about Lanterns, has nothing to do
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  with the show. DC Comics nerds,
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  shut the fuck up. That's never happening. The most embarrassing
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  fandom that exists on planet Earth. You know how I know that? I'm a DC
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  fucking fanatic. I can't wait to fucking yell at all of you fucking spoiled-ass
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  children. Really excited to talk to you about that. Tanya, let's just get right to
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  the sports because Monday Night Football was— you know what's so funny?
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  I saw about a week and a half ago, uh, a very massive dipshit in
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  our industry named Mad Dog Christopher Russo, uh, wanted to go on TV and bitch
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  and complain and bemoan about the fact that we have all of these games with,
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  uh, the, with the, with the, with the team in Atlanta. Why, why do
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  we gotta see Atlanta in primetime? Have you seen the last 2 weeks?
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  That's why we got fucking Atlanta in primetime. Headline number
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  1. Uh, yeah,
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  dude, the Falcons are good right now,
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  and they walloped the Saints. They ruined that little party that
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  New Orleans had. They really did. Kind of a bummer for them, but, uh,
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  listen, uh, you know, it was the 20-year anniversary of them returning
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  to the Super Bowl. Oh my God, you got this,
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  you got this, you got this. You're amongst friends, don't worry about
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  it. The Superdome after— where
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  the Super Bowl was held. Hurricane Katrina. Yes. Not a funny
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  thing. Not at all. But I really just struggled through that and
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  I thought it was really well done. You could tell the crowd was really into
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  it. My friend in Louisiana was talking about how, like, the energy was just really
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  big in New Orleans yesterday. I loved that they had the same woman come into
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  the national anthem. It was an emotional thing,
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  but the Falcons didn't give a fuck, nor should they, because they're division rivals and
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  they came to do their job. They won, uh, 45-24.
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  Beating. It was a beating. And you know,
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  the Falcons are just like a cool team.
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  They are like Penix and the B. Robinsons. And like, dude, so I,
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  I've learned through from Falcons, um, like listening
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  to Falcons locker room video that they go by Bijan
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  and I think B. Robinson or B. Rob or something
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  like that. So like, that's how they distinguish them. Works for me. Um,
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  or like Brian Robb. I forget what it was. It doesn't matter. What matters
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  is that Atlanta is leading the league in B.
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  Robinsons. They are leading the league in B. Robinsons by a lot. They combined
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  for 5 rushing touchdowns. That's like the most that, uh, the Falcons have
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  had like ever in a single game. Um, Michael Penix didn't
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  have to do a ton as a passer, but he ran the offense
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  the way it's supposed to to be run. Like, that's— listen, both the Robinsons were
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  on the team when Michael Penix wasn't, and that offense looked like
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  trash. Like, this is a Penix effect, uh, and you can tell that
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  Stefanski is really leaning into being able to scheme for this talent.
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  It's beyond the B. Robinsons. It's Drake London. It's Michael Penix.
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  It's everybody that they've got going. Kyle Pitts didn't have much. They didn't need a
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  ton of the wide receiving game last night. Not at all. You know what's funny
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  about that? Michael Penix Jr. had -2 yards rushing, so they That just shows
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  you when he had like a 127 QBR— and I know QBR is not the
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  end-all be-all, it's just a little thing I can use as a barometer— he had
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  a fucking great night and none of it was his legs. No,
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  uh, no, he is— he has been an excellent passer in these 2 games,
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  like, you know, regardless. And I love an offense that knows
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  what's working, what's cooking. And like, I just— I find
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  that to be so inspiring that Michael Penix is able to say like, all right,
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  these, these are the guys who are getting the run And, you know, Bijan is
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  ostensibly the— he's supposed to be the best talent on that team. He is the
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  best talent on that offense. But Brian Robinson was the one
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  with the extra touchdown. Yeah. So, I mean, that's a nightmare to
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  try to fucking scheme against. No hate to the Saints, who are the best bad
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  team I've ever seen in my life. They are. They are a bad team
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  that is like really fun to watch. It's crazy because they play teams pretty hard.
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  Last night seemed like it was more of an outlier than anything else. Because the
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  last, you know, what, 3 weeks they've been playing teams really hard, only got 1
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  victory out of it. But yeah, they've been playing their asses off. And Tyler Shuck
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  has been a borderline revelation up until last night. No, you can see where his
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  flaws are, and those flaws have showed, especially late in games.
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  But at the end of the day, they are a fun, interesting team and they're
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  also bad. Like they just aren't winning games and that's just what you're
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  supposed to do. We got one of our— we put out a
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  post ahead of today on Instagram and Threads to ask people to submit
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  their questions and topic suggestions for today to kind of
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  like thread throughout the show.
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  And, uh, @jsmart_, his name
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  is Mal, said, is it time to start hopping on the Bijan Robinson for MVP
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  campaign? I'm not gonna lie to you, like, here's the thing. We, we know it's
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  a quarterback award, right? Um, that's what it has been. The last, uh,
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  non-quarterback to win the award, I think, was Adrian Peterson. And what was that,
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  2000 2007, 2008? I think it was 2012.
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  Might have been that late. Okay, well, it's just, it's just what the award has
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  kind of turned into, for better or for worse. I've been
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  kind of banging the drum very loudly, especially that Saquon year. I really
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  wanted Saquon to win that MVP. Alas, I believe
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  that was Josh Allen that got it that year. And, and funny enough, Josh Allen
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  shouldn't have won it over Lamar, let alone Saquon. Yeah. Um, I, I'm more
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  than willing to get on this just because also at this point of the year
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  what quarterback's actually standing out. Josh Allen's had 2 shit
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  weeks in a row. Lamar is sadly hurt again right now.
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  Um, you know, it's gonna be a real interesting year if these running backs can
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  stay healthy, because both of the B— if that's the case, both B. Robinsons are
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  in this conversation right now. Yeah, maybe they do the dual. Um,
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  you know, because remember back in the day, they could— they
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  couldn't just give Steve McNair his MVP. They had to co-MVP
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  it. With Peyton Manning. Sure did. Uh, they've since decided they can give Black
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  quarterbacks MVPs on their own. Um, but maybe if it's a running back,
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  they'll decide it's a dual threat situation. I, I will say
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  it is tough. Like, Brian Robinson's making it tough to say Bijan Robinson's
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  the MVP. It's crazy. Like, so it— that is, uh, that is difficult. I,
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  I completely agree that it is shaping up right now to be
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  a, like, non-quarterback year if we've seen one. The problem is
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  Brock Purdy's playing amazing. Real case. Yes, he is. And it's not
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  a problem. But I like, you know, if there's— if it's between an
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  absolutely electric running back or somebody
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  else and then a quarterback and there's anybody, any quarterback
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  that can make a case, they're going to give it to him. No question.
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  So I would say probably like if we were to look at the odds,
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  like Brock Purdy is probably the odds leader right now. He was at one point.
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  So I'm assuming because he's still winning at this clip, I'm assuming that's the case.
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  He was another name that should be thrown in the mix that definitely won't be.
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  And it definitely won't last all season. But Kirk Cousins is leading the league with
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  touchdowns, and he's only got— live in a world— I know, I know you don't
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  want to live in this world. I know you don't want to live in this
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  world, but we have to acknowledge it's pretty crazy. I can live in a world
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  where Kirk Cousins like wins. I don't mind that, like wins, goes to the
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  Super Bowl. I truly don't care. He— I can't live in
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  a Kirk Cousins MVP world. Me neither. I can't believe it's real, but he is
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  playing that good right now. That being said, the other running back that I would
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  throw into this list, because I just watched it firsthand, 177 yards, and I'm sure
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  we'll get to it, Dude, Kenneth Walker III is just fucking nuts. He is just—
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  he is going absolutely batshit. Feeling very running back.
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  It is right now. Everybody's looking very running backy and it's
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  feeling very running back. Oh, I love running, running backy. Yeah, yeah. Christian McCaffrey should
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  also be on that list. He doesn't look very running backy. No, but— and that—
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  but he is. He is extremely running backy. He's very runny.
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  Um, all right, let's go to the game that you and I watched together
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  in the pool. Yes, we did. Uh, kind of like
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  with our mouths agape. I couldn't believe this was fucking real.
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  And now I am a little worried that your team is
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  going to start going on a run. I don't want them to. My number 2
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  team. Sorry, your second favorite team from your hometown,
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  because again, you're trying to fix Boston sports. I'm trying. Yeah. Um,
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  we watched the Patriots beat the Bills 29-26,
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  uh, sealed by a game-ending pick
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  from Josh Allen. Um,
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  and after his, like, you know, very problematic
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  turnover-laden win against the Chargers, you and I expected
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  him to maybe do a bounce back. That's what I thought. The Patriots, not that—
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  and I said, you know, they have a great defense, but they're missing Christian Gonzalez.
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  They're missing, you know, they're— if they're missing the pieces that they need,
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  we figured it was going to be maybe, if not a blowout, a bounce back
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  game for Josh Allen. That's really not what we got. We got
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  the Drake Maye bounce-back game. Not what we fucking expected. Definitely didn't expect it.
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  Not only did we get that, but the Patriots defense still played really well without
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  2 of their best players. Ugly first 3
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  weeks. And then the Patriots produced 405 yards and 29 points,
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  both season highs, after only scoring 26 points combined
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  in their previous 2 games.
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  I am at the point right now where I'm
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  a little concerned about Joe Brady and this,
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  this offense and what they're doing with Josh Allen. Tell me why. Well, I have
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  a theory on why. Okay. I would love to see if it is what you
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  think. Now, I, I've always, I've always mentioned this a few times about the Joe
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  Brady of it all. Joe Brady, and I apologize the expression, but because he hasn't
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  failed, quote unquote, but it's been a very fail upwards type of thing. He is
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  just kind of up updated his job year after year because somebody
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  else gets fired. To his credit, we see a lot with these white guy OCs.
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  Very true. They, they sort of just move up
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  the rung that way. But his, his like
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  ascension has been really, really fast, to the point
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  where we are aware that he is Josh Allen's guy. He was the quarterback coach,
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  then of course the offensive coordinator gets fired, he moves into the offensive coordinator,
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  then the head coach gets fired, and now he's the new head coach. And by
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  the way, this is a head coach when they're supposedly interviewing other head
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  coaches for a very coveted job. And instead it just goes in-house
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  to a guy that is Josh Allen's guy. Yeah. Who is clearly, in my opinion,
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  just giving the ball to Josh Allen as much as humanly possible.
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  And I think that might be a problem. Yeah.
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  I mean, it's— that's a— it's a simplification. It is a very oversimplification
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  of it. But— but I do think that Joe
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  Brady has aspirations of running a style of offense
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  That is not and has never been Josh
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  Allen's forte. Josh Allen at his best is
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  employing a run-heavy offense that allows him to open up those deep passing
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  lanes and utilizing his
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  tight ends. And like, he plays
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  like a powerhouse Cam Newton style offensive.
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  So, you know, Cam was one of the best deep ball throwers in the league.
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  Because he was a power runner. And so the,
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  the threat of him and whoever, whatever running back he was playing in the backfield,
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  being able to power through basically anything with designed runs,
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  or even, you know, even when you're audibling out of it and just kind of
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  rolling out and deciding you're going to run off the cuff, that would open up
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  these deep passing lanes. And he was actually one of the best deep ball passers
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  when he was healthy. That's Josh Allen at his at
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  his best. And what Joe Brady's trying to do is force this
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  sort of Matthew Stafford-style
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  offensive passing attack on a dude who has
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  proven what works for him. Yes, they— yes,
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  there's stuff to clean up in that, but we know what, what works for Josh
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  Allen. Oh yeah, they ran the ball only 20 times to
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  the Patriots' 35 times. Now Drake May can run.
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  Rhamondre and Trevion, good little running back duo they got.
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  But Josh Allen and James Cook are like
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  a level above that as a running duo. Why are you only
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  running the ball 20 times when your passing attack is not fucking working?
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  I don't understand that approach. 20 is
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  low. It's not the lowest of the week by any means, but it's low in
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  a game like that. Where you need to like run down the clock,
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  establish some fucking like time of possession. I just don't fucking get it.
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  And I'm concerned about what Joe Brady's vision is for this. We're not—
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  we're going to talk about a team later on in the Chargers who also
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  don't seem to have a vision for how to improve the situation around their,
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  their quarterback. Um, so I don't think this is the worst version
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  we've seen it, and the last 2 games are like could be fixed, but like
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  I'm not, I'm not seeing a team that has improved over
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  the Sean McDermott Bills. No, as of now, if anything, those first 3 games
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  I was like, oh shit, this team's for real. These last 2 games I'm like,
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  holy shit, there's like blood in the water. Like, what is going on here?
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  They, they've looked— it's been extremely Dickensian considering
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  the fact that it's very tale of 2 cities because one team looks like a
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  juggernaut. And we even said it after week 2, like, holy fuck, the Bills are
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  scary. Yeah, the Bills these last 2 weeks have looked anything but fucking scary.
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  Those MVP overreactions, I mean, we joked about it, it's like We know nothing
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  about these fucking teams. Truly. Week 1 or week 2, especially with a whole new
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  plethora of coaches all throughout the league. Even the coaches that we know that were
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  coaching already last year. Yeah. Like we didn't know whether to take the Raiders seriously.
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  We didn't know what— like, I still can't believe we're taking the Raiders seriously,
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  but we are. Yeah. And so like, yeah, there's a lot.
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  There's a lot at play there. But we did.
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  This was the first time and probably one of the only times that I,
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  that I was enticed into actually watching football here because we had our event to
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  go to afterwards. Um, and it— we had a little bit of streaming issues.
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  Oh my God, you know what's funny? I, I firmly— I, I do
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  think it had something to do with the heat because streaming has been okay ever
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  since because the heat's gone down a little bit. And all my— you, you did
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  a speed test here, everything was fucking fine except just all the streaming just wasn't
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  working. Yeah, it had— LA, by the way, it worked was like resetting the TVs
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  to reset the connection, which I think to that effect helped a little bit because
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  like it's just waning and like it's Yeah, I'm telling you, it was
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  a disaster, guys. But LA is a quarter mile from the sun this last week.
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  It's been fucking nuts. But when the setup is setting up, it's great.
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  Like everywhere, teams going, whatever. But my,
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  my NFL Sundays are like, you look
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  like you're in like a, like a lair. Yeah, you're in a command center.
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  Yeah. Yeah. And so it was like, for me,
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  I was like, where is everything happening? And I was so distracted.
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  So that was— but we were locked in together for that and it was It
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  was very, it was very good. It ended up being a really great time because
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  we were— well, here's the thing. We were literally— we found a new spot,
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  like in the pool, the best way to watch the games when the TV was
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  working. Yeah. And we were just sitting there looking up like in awe.
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  You know that scene in The Fountain where, where, where Hugh Jackman's like,
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  and like the wind's blowing at him with the long hair? That was us watching
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  the ending of this fucking game. We looked at each other and we were like,
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  what? What is happening? We couldn't fucking believe
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  this shit. It was, it was an unbelievable— honestly, I really got to give credit
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  to the Patriots because I was I was ready to fucking dead and bury this
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  team. So was I. And now it looks like they might be able to pull
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  something out of the fire with AJ Brown eventually coming back. All right,
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  um, Ravens, you know, my guy, um, on Instagram
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  @t_a_sullivan, he said, can you talk about finding a magic healer of
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  ankles? Oh, because fuck, dude, the Ravens won their game against the
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  Titans. They dominated the first half. Lamar looked great. Zay Flowers is a motherfucking
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  He's just a motherfucking G. Like, yeah, again, it's fucking killer.
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  Like, uh, wide receiver 1, dude. Like, oh my God,
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  I love— it's so rare that we get to see a wide receiver graduate
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  from being like really good, a wide receiver 2, somebody that you know
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  is great, but you, you know, he's no this or that. He's no Jefferson,
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  he's no Ja'Marr, he's no whatever. It's very rare you see a wide receiver like
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  this. And the thing that it's like reminding me so much of is somebody like
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  Wes Welker. Oh yeah, that's a great fucking call. Finally get— you
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  finally get schemed into it. All of a sudden Wes Welker's getting to having 1,400-yard
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  seasons because he's got an MVP quarterback and a fucking offensive
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  guy who's doing what he needs to be. Because I never thought he would be
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  this. I never thought he would be this. It's incredible. I, I always thought he
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  would be great and he would have like the opportunity to have— like he would
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  always have moments. But, but I genuinely see a leap into
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  a level, and it may be the scheming, it may be the offensive coordinator,
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  it may be the head coaching. Um, but like regardless, it's fucking awesome.
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  So like kudos to Zay Flowers. But about the
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  Lamar situation, they almost gave the game away because once Lamar was out, it started
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  getting a little bit tough. Um, he is day to day with an ankle injury,
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  so like could be worse. They're gonna have to be careful with this. They should
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  definitely Caleb Williamson. Who they got this next week? I have no idea. It doesn't
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  matter. He's not playing. He should not play. Like, I mean, yeah, it doesn't matter
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  because like even if they're— even if they're playing the Chiefs Like, you can't risk
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  it, right? So, um, that's disappointing.
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  I do think that the team has shown enough
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  that they could, like, depending on the matchups, but like, they need—
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  like, Lamar's gotta get through a season healthy,
• 19:32
  uh, and, and also land in the postseason healthy
• 19:36
  if this is going to be a situation where he can, like, make a legitimate
• 19:39
  run, because I think this is going to be a dogfight in that division.
• 19:42
  I think so too. Who do you think's the team to actually beat? Do you
• 19:45
  think it's going to be the Bengals, or do you think the Browns are actually
• 19:47
  real? Because I don't think the Ravens are the best team, I think, without question.
• 19:50
  But if Lamar is hurt, then it's an actual race. But the, the Browns
• 19:54
  are— feel like a lot like the Raiders to me, just without the, the reliable
• 19:58
  QB, which is like, oh, the, the rest of the team looks a lot better
• 20:02
  than I thought. Whereas like the Raiders offense is a lot better than I thought.
• 20:05
  There's some other questions I have about their roster The, the Browns
• 20:09
  and their— the rest of their unit, their young wide receivers, their defense,
• 20:14
  all of it is really fucking good. It is. It's really
• 20:17
  good. I like— I just, I, I don't know how you
• 20:21
  can look at that team right now and think that they're not better than the
• 20:25
  Steelers. I think they're better than the Bengals. I think they're better than the Steelers.
• 20:27
  I do think the Bengals are better, but like, you know how Joe— you know,
• 20:30
  Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase are better than anybody
• 20:35
  like that we're talking about on the Browns. Yeah, but then, but then their defense
• 20:38
  exists. Yeah. And their line exists. Well, and,
• 20:42
  and again, Joe Burrow is now in what,
• 20:46
  year 7? Believe 7. Yes.
• 20:49
  And he can't figure out how to fucking
• 20:53
  deal with that pressure in the pocket. He's just so bad.
• 20:56
  He, him and Jared Goff. I'm going to kill them. I'm going to kill them
• 20:59
  with my own two bare hands if they don't fucking figure out how to deal
• 21:03
  with the fact that your line is not there to prevent you
• 21:07
  ever feeling pressure. I'm gonna need you to figure it out. Like,
• 21:11
  go shotgun if you want, but they know where the ball's going, so you better
• 21:14
  get the ball out a lot quicker than that. You better learn how to Peyton
• 21:17
  Manning that shit, otherwise you're gonna end up like Andrew Luck. Absolutely. And that is
• 21:20
  the, the name you never want to hear. And by the way, it's in the
• 21:23
  chat right now, uh, ankles take months to fully heal. Uh,
• 21:26
  as someone still recovering from a broken ankle after months,
• 21:29
  it's tough. That is, of course, Tiger, uh, JV. Yes, my girl.
• 21:33
  I will tell you this, you are right. But the worst thing— now I had
• 21:36
  a lot of injuries in my career, right? The worst injury I actually had was
• 21:39
  a grade 3 ankle sprain. Took like, honestly, to this day— I got that in
• 21:43
  2011, it is still fucked up. Yeah, to this day it's fucked up. Um,
• 21:46
  it just depends on the severity of the injury, and they are not exactly telling
• 21:49
  anyone the exact severity of the injury. And an ankle is really like legitimately
• 21:53
  very brutal. It is. Um, if you have like a sprain
• 21:56
  or a twist Um, and like you, you get
• 22:00
  to it early and you start rehabbing it early and you can, you know,
• 22:04
  you can do the pain meds, you can do the anti-inflammatories. It's like you can
• 22:08
  get yourself in okay shape. It took me within a couple of weeks.
• 22:11
  Um, and like that's like you're
• 22:15
  saying, like for you, but we're talking about the one of the more physical
• 22:19
  things you can do, play quarterback. So he need— he needs to be healthy,
• 22:23
  whatever it is. But I'm assuming it's okay-ish. It seems
• 22:26
  like honestly, my hope is
• 22:30
  that they took him out thinking we got to be able to
• 22:34
  win this game without him. We don't need him to play that. Like, let's be
• 22:36
  really, really careful. And that what's going on with his ankle is actually
• 22:42
  not— would not normally take you out of a game, but it
• 22:46
  took him out of this game because they were kicking the asses of the Titans
• 22:49
  and they thought, let's see if we can win this game without him. I think
• 22:51
  that that's what they did and that it's not as bad as maybe some— like,
• 22:54
  you know, Caleb's hamstring, which is keeping him out for weeks. Yeah, we'll see.
• 22:58
  Um, which, by the way, I've noticed everybody shut the fuck up about Caleb
• 23:02
  and his injury. Oh, it's not that serious. It's a fucking hamstring injury. He ain't
• 23:06
  gonna be back anytime soon. He ain't back this week. They've already announced it.
• 23:10
  I wonder if he'll be back next week. I don't know. All you motherfuckers trying
• 23:14
  to take your weird-ass victory lap. Can't believe you. You did this coming off the
• 23:17
  field. Fuck you. Yeah, like, and it's like, oh well, they keep having to
• 23:21
  roll with you know, their, their backup quarterbacks. I not— no,
• 23:25
  I don't care how high of him, like how high on his own supply Ben
• 23:28
  Johnson is, he doesn't want to start anybody but Caleb Williams. Everybody relax.
• 23:32
  He likes Tyson Badgett, fine, but he doesn't love him. He likes Case Keenum,
• 23:36
  fine, doesn't love him. Yeah. Um, all right, let's go. Let's talk
• 23:41
  about the Vikings because they're a really fascinating 4-0 situation.
• 23:45
  I— someone suggested the Vikings. I wish— I'll try to find
• 23:48
  it once you're, you You're making your points here, but, uh, they're 4-0 despite an
• 23:52
  offense that can't score touchdowns. They're not doing anything. And by the way, I'm still
• 23:56
  a believer in Kyler in this offense. We just haven't seen it yet. No.
• 23:59
  And it's— and it is like developing really slowly.
• 24:02
  Um, like Kyler doesn't seem comfortable in it yet. Like he doesn't
• 24:07
  seem to be building the connection with Justin Jefferson that I would hope he would
• 24:10
  have built. Um, I do think
• 24:14
  that there's probably a mental thing happening where it's like
• 24:18
  our defense has us covered. And like, that's where Kyler's biggest pitfall is, is when
• 24:21
  you get that mad fucking genius in Flores over there doing what he's doing.
• 24:25
  The Vikings scored 15 points all on field goals and have now gone 18
• 24:29
  possessions without a touchdown under the relevance, you know, so they're
• 24:33
  4-0, becoming the only, only the 3rd team
• 24:37
  in NFL history to start 4-0 despite failing to score a touchdown in 2 games.
• 24:40
  Um, TJ Hockenson has been great, 13 catches for 119 yards. So Kyler's
• 24:45
  finding his connections. Yeah, they're just not finding them in the end zone.
• 24:48
  Um, and I guess if you look, and I'm
• 24:52
  sure we could like nitpick what's happening in the red zone, uh, the Patriots went
• 24:55
  through this like weird slump like this with, I think it was Mac Jones,
• 24:58
  where they just like could not score. They would like do all their work,
• 25:01
  um, in the, you know, in between the 20s, and then they couldn't get— do
• 25:04
  shit in the red zone. Um, so I've seen this before. My How—
• 25:09
  the question is, how the fuck long can Brian Flores and,
• 25:14
  and Will Reichard kicking do this? Like, Brian Flores
• 25:19
  scheming a team like basically single-handedly to a 4-0 start
• 25:24
  in the NFL, it's unreal. I— there,
• 25:28
  you know, the only real comparison— I got
• 25:32
  one that I can think of, like historically of a,
• 25:35
  of a defensive coach having
• 25:39
  this level of an impact on their entire team,
• 25:43
  like as an identity, is Tony Dungy.
• 25:47
  Like, that's it. Who's a fucking Hall of Famer? The only team I can
• 25:50
  really think of, like right off the top of my head, I was thinking about
• 25:53
  the Broncos when they were the Peyton Manning Broncos when they beat Cam Newton.
• 25:55
  Like that team solely won that because of their defense, not because Peyton
• 25:59
  Manning was on the team for goddamn sure. Oh, there's been plenty of That's not
• 26:02
  what I'm saying. Yeah, there's been plenty of teams. So you're just thinking of mad
• 26:04
  genius that can just— I'm talking about the scheming. Okay, specifically,
• 26:08
  and like what he's doing to change the game defensively. Because,
• 26:11
  uh, I believe that was Wade Phillips' defense, was it not? In the— it might
• 26:15
  have been. I think he was the defensive coordinator, or was he— whatever. Or that
• 26:18
  was maybe the Rams. Whatever it was, that defense, um, was— you're right,
• 26:22
  they won that. That was a defensive Super Bowl win with Peyton
• 26:26
  Manning knowing exactly what to like just not do in the Super Bowl to not
• 26:29
  lose it for them. The difference was that entire team
• 26:33
  was fucking stacked with All-Pro. Like, the kind of— like,
• 26:36
  that whole defensive line was monsters.
• 26:40
  Yeah, they were monsters. Their, their secondary was monsters.
• 26:44
  The Vikings, don't get me wrong, are talented as fuck.
• 26:48
  They've got All-Pros, they got Pro Bowls, whatever, but it's not those dudes.
• 26:51
  So, and then on top of it, schematically, he's,
• 26:55
  he's just doing things that nobody else does.
• 26:58
  Um, and he's not dialing it up because he's like, I have the, the best
• 27:03
  players at this position. He's dialing up because he knows exactly how to
• 27:06
  use those players. Well, to your point on the offense,
• 27:10
  I, I don't know when this connection is going to be figured out. I'm agreeing
• 27:12
  with you wholeheartedly on the Kyler Murray and the not getting the connection with Justin
• 27:16
  Jefferson. It's a bit concerning because I mean, we have less
• 27:20
  than a month— I'm sorry, no, no, we got about a month and a half
• 27:22
  before he needs to figure out to get this connection. He needs to get this
• 27:25
  connection before November 19th. Because you know what happens on November 19th? Grand Theft
• 27:29
  Auto 6 comes out and Kyler Murray is going to be a fucking disappearing act
• 27:33
  when that happens. Are we sure? Because don't they keep saying it's coming out and
• 27:35
  then it doesn't? It's supposedly coming out November 19th. And if that comes out November
• 27:39
  19th and Kyler has not— it's coming out, right? Thank you. Like officially official,
• 27:44
  Mocha. Like we can't— there's no turning back. Yeah, there's no turning back because they
• 27:49
  wouldn't do it a month away. They would have. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So November 19th,
• 27:53
  the guy's got a month and like 2 weeks to figure this out.
• 27:57
  Because we know what happens when GTA 6 comes
• 28:01
  out. Kyler's going to fucking be gone, right? We know this.
• 28:04
  Numbers back it up. Now, do I know that he's a GTA guy?
• 28:08
  No, but I know he's a Call of Duty guy, which screams that he's also
• 28:11
  a GTA guy. But didn't we just learn from,
• 28:14
  from Mike Tomlin that you can play video
• 28:18
  games? Yeah, you can sneak into the playoffs. This team needs to do more than
• 28:21
  sneak into the playoffs. No, I mean, come on, man.
• 28:24
  Kyler making the playoffs would be a huge thing for Kyler. He doesn't
• 28:28
  make the playoffs. They're 4-0. I feel like they got to like— yeah, they got
• 28:32
  to get like 12 wins, right? They got— they got to— yeah, I mean,
• 28:35
  at least 11. All right, let's go to—
• 28:39
  let's, let's talk about the Chargers because I was asked— we were asked by
• 28:43
  Ray L. Pedrosa on Threads,
• 28:47
  Harbaugh, McDaniel, Herbert conundrum. What do we
• 28:51
  think? The Seahawks beat the Chargers 30-23, a little bit closer than I think we
• 28:55
  would have assumed. Yeah, because they came back a little bit. Yeah, they started getting
• 28:57
  it together a little bit. They absolutely did. They— the Chargers fell to a 0-4,
• 29:01
  and it's starting to look like a season that could spiral completely out of control.
• 29:04
  Justin Herbert threw 2 first-half interceptions and then lost a fumble late. He's now
• 29:07
  thrown 6 interceptions and taken at least 10 sacks through 4 games, a combination
• 29:12
  not seen from a Chargers quarterback since Ryan Leaf in 2000. So something Philip
• 29:16
  Rivers simply never did, which I think we're all very
• 29:19
  aware at this point that Justin Herbert is not Philip Rivers. They tried,
• 29:23
  they tried to tell us he was Philip— they tried to tell us he was
• 29:25
  better. He's not Philip Rivers. The Chargers also had 16
• 29:29
  penalties for 130 yards and suffered multiple injuries.
• 29:32
  So hate that. Don't— we don't love injuries, but those penalties are fucking brutal.
• 29:38
  Let me ask you this first question. How much longer
• 29:43
  can the Chargers— like, can we just say this is bad luck and injuries?
• 29:48
  Not much longer. I've never said that. I— at no point have I said this
• 29:51
  to this point. I don't think it's ever been just— I think you can make
• 29:54
  the argument now, but you're a little about— you're 4 fucking losses late to be
• 29:57
  able to say that. Also, like, We saw the playoffs last year. We saw
• 30:00
  this. Like, I don't— like, yeah, we can— like,
• 30:04
  you only get to blame injuries when you were good before the injuries. Like,
• 30:07
  the Niners, they get to blame injuries. If the Niners lose when they've got
• 30:11
  like 7 dudes on fucking IR, they can blame injuries. The Chargers
• 30:15
  don't get to do that. That's like— that's like somebody like never getting bitches
• 30:19
  and then being like, I'm getting off the dating apps. Yep. Like, brother.
• 30:23
  Yeah. I'm like, you know what? I'm just so knee-deep in all this muff.
• 30:26
  I need it. I need it. I need to take a break. The reason I'm
• 30:29
  not dating is because I'm off off the apps. No, yeah, you weren't dating
• 30:32
  when you were on that. Chicks are all over me, bro. I just— I need
• 30:36
  to stop. I just— God, yeah, I need to reconnect with my kids again.
• 30:40
  Not the kids. Um, okay, we've done this
• 30:44
  before. We're gonna be official with it now. Let's hear it. One of
• 30:47
  these 3 is the problem, and I've decided I, I am definitively
• 30:52
  on my choice for who the actual fucking problem is.
• 30:55
  You're— I'm gonna just guess yours is Mr.
• 30:59
  Jim Harbaugh. It's, it's Harbaugh. I believe I'm going to tell you why. Let's hear
• 31:02
  it. After the game, there was a reporter
• 31:06
  who asked him a question about, like, you know, when he had been hired,
• 31:09
  his whole thing was, this is a, this is a generational talent and
• 31:13
  weapon that we have at this position at quarterback. This is the fucking real deal.
• 31:17
  And we're going to, we're going to establish the run. We're going to protect him.
• 31:20
  We're going to do all the things. We're going to do all the things that
• 31:23
  need to be done to take care of our QB.
• 31:28
  He's done none of them. And the, and the, and the
• 31:31
  reporter was like, hey, what's that about? And Jim Harbaugh's response was, oh, that seems
• 31:34
  less like a question and more like, uh, you know, like a personal attack.
• 31:39
  And the reporter was like, nah dude, I'm fucking— you said you were gonna
• 31:43
  do this. You, you're not running the ball. You're not establishing the run. You haven't
• 31:46
  established this position, and you have not like figured out a way to better protect
• 31:49
  Justin Herbert. Now again, I'm on record as saying I think Justin Herbert, along with
• 31:53
  many other quarterbacks in the league don't do them any favors with the way they
• 31:56
  play the position. And I don't think he does his offensive line any favors.
• 31:59
  Having said that, very hard to establish a,
• 32:03
  a, an opportunity to protect yourself when you can't
• 32:06
  get the run game going, when they don't seem to prioritize it, and when your
• 32:09
  head coach seems to be perfectly happy to let you play hero ball when
• 32:13
  you have proven you're not a hero. Hero ball is for
• 32:17
  Superman. Hero ball is for fucking Batman.
• 32:20
  Hero balls for? The Green Lantern. Bet your ass, right?
• 32:24
  All of them, like, except for Guy. Well,
• 32:27
  exactly. Maybe that's what— maybe that's what Justin Herbert is. He's Guy Gardner.
• 32:30
  He's Guy Gardner. He is definitely of the Green Lanterns. He's 100%
• 32:34
  Guy Gardner. But like, in my mind, I'm like, you know, like,
• 32:38
  you're, you're the sidekick. Like, you're not a— like, you can't ask people
• 32:42
  to do that. Um, and I, I'm really
• 32:46
  like, it's the attitude It's this weird arrogance about
• 32:51
  not only Justin Herbert's capabilities, but his— like
• 32:56
  his inability to take responsibility for the
• 33:00
  way that the offense is being called. So I put my 2 cents
• 33:04
  in. You got to pick one of the 3, one of the holy trinity of
• 33:08
  bullshittery. Here's the thing. I'm actually agreeing
• 33:12
  with you, but I know whose head's going to roll first, and it's not Harbaugh.
• 33:15
  That's not what I asked. Okay. I definitely blame Harbaugh. He is the
• 33:19
  head coach because we're on record as saying we know McDaniels. McDaniels' head is going
• 33:22
  to be the one that goes. Who you genuinely think is the biggest issue of
• 33:27
  the 3? And it's just— you don't have to agree with me. No, no,
• 33:28
  no. I actually do think it's— listen,
• 33:32
  I'm going Jim Harbaugh first. I'm actually going Justin Herbert second. And I might
• 33:36
  go Mike McDaniels. I don't know why we're going to blame Mike McDaniels. He just
• 33:39
  got there. He just fucking got here. And they've been doing this bullshit the whole
• 33:42
  time. We've seen Mike McDaniels be successful with fucking Tua. So like,
• 33:46
  and that's the other thing about Jim Harbaugh. I mean, like, he, he, Jim Harbaugh
• 33:50
  just 5 weeks ago referred to Justin Herbert as one day we're going to
• 33:54
  refer to him as the greatest that ever did that, did this. Yeah, he said
• 33:57
  that, not my words, fucking Jim Harbaugh's words. 0-4 later,
• 34:01
  where you at, Jim? I, I don't know what to say other than this team
• 34:05
  is a fucking disaster right now. And I, I don't necessarily blame
• 34:09
  Mike McDaniel, even though I think he's— if they lose this next game, I think
• 34:12
  he's got maybe 2 weeks to go at at best, that he's gonna get Chip
• 34:15
  Kelly'd out of fucking Vegas as quickly as humanly possible. The difference is Chip
• 34:20
  Kelly really did do a shit job. I'm not positive that's what's
• 34:24
  going on over here with Mike McDaniel. I think the fucking Chargers are just really
• 34:27
  fucking bad. Yeah. And I, and I, I don't
• 34:32
  think— I do think that there's a character issue with Justin Herbert.
• 34:35
  I actually really do. Interesting. I do genuinely think there is a
• 34:39
  character issue where, you know how we said we like part of Trevor Lawrence's issue
• 34:43
  and why he's inconsistent is he's a dingbat. Yeah, I actually don't think he has
• 34:46
  character issues other than like, I just think he's a flighty and dingbat,
• 34:50
  and I don't think that he takes the job of quarterback as seriously as he
• 34:54
  should, um, because he's so like naturally talented. I've always
• 34:58
  thought that about like some of these like natural gunslinger came
• 35:02
  in, we're like top prospects out of high school, top prospects out of college.
• 35:06
  It can be really hard to like get those dudes to believe they
• 35:09
  have to like continue to work hard to be good.
• 35:13
  Justin Herbert has like an actual,
• 35:17
  I think, a genuine like ego problem.
• 35:21
  And we get— we hear that levied against quarterbacks
• 35:25
  all the time. Heard that levied against Cam Newton, never saw it in his play.
• 35:29
  I've heard that levied against a lot of Black quarterbacks and
• 35:33
  like players like Baker Mayfield. Um,
• 35:37
  and I've never seen those players— Baker looks
• 35:41
  sometimes like he just is sucking. I never, never seem like he doesn't think he's—
• 35:45
  I never look— it never looks like he's not trying. He's just being— he's just
• 35:48
  being— he's just doing a bad job. Yeah.
• 35:52
  I don't believe in Justin Herbert's work ethic at all. I just
• 35:55
  fucking don't. Well, based on what I've seen, I've seen more videos of him feeding
• 35:58
  his fiancée grapes at the fucking practice facility than I
• 36:02
  have seen him practice. It takes a lot to impress, like, and I know
• 36:06
  this is going to be like the most insufferable thing I've ever said. I grew
• 36:09
  up watching Tom Brady. Like, it takes a lot to impress me as
• 36:13
  far as your work ethic. And there's only a few quarterbacks that impress
• 36:17
  me. Patrick Mahomes impresses me. Lamar Jackson impresses me. Josh Allen impresses me.
• 36:21
  Um, like the people who seem
• 36:25
  to like really live and die by their team and by trying.
• 36:30
  Doesn't mean they're always perfect, doesn't mean I don't have critiques,
• 36:33
  but, um, and then, you know, some of the quarterbacks that you and
• 36:37
  I have talked about that are backups that have scratched that fucking never stop working,
• 36:40
  that impresses me. I don't— these, these oversized, like,
• 36:44
  high school— some dudes just fucking sit around and just bank on their fucking talent.
• 36:48
  No, I was chosen, this is, this is me. Fuck you, dude,
• 36:51
  this shit's hard. Like, it gets harder. You know, people say that about Kyler Murray.
• 36:55
  And I'm like, Kyler Murray should not be able to play football.
• 36:58
  He is my size. He's an undersized fucking guy. No,
• 37:02
  undersized doesn't cut it. He is not nearly— he's
• 37:06
  not even 5'10. Like, that motherfucker is little, miniature,
• 37:09
  but he is— he should not be able to play. Yes, exactly. So it's like,
• 37:13
  if you're going— but you're gonna be 6'5, 6'6 acting
• 37:17
  like this? Absolutely not. I can't. I get it, I get it. It's fucking messed.
• 37:20
  But what are you gonna do other than giggle because at the end of the
• 37:23
  day it's just the fucking Chargers. You know who also might
• 37:28
  be on the line is the next game we're going to talk about, which is,
• 37:31
  um, Panthers-Lions. Boy, boy, you know what's funny?
• 37:35
  There's 2 things. I think 2 things can be true about this one right out
• 37:37
  the gate. One, I think I'm with you. One, Panthers are a team to be
• 37:41
  reckoned with. Bryce Young, their offense specifically. Bryce Young has
• 37:45
  been fucking fantastic. Awesome. He's also fantastic. Fringe.
• 37:49
  He's fringe MVP for me. Depends on how the rest of the season goes,
• 37:51
  but he's fringe. Also, fucking Lions
• 37:55
  might be bad. I— the Lions might be— and I'm, I'm not kidding,
• 37:59
  and I think Green Bay is a shit team this year— I think the Lions
• 38:01
  might be the worst team in this division. I, I am really worried.
• 38:05
  I don't think Dan Campbell's job is really up yet, but I gotta say,
• 38:10
  that seat is gonna start getting warmer as this season goes along.
• 38:14
  And I think Dan Campbell's getting a little exposed. You're getting a little too sports
• 38:17
  radio for me right now. You just, you just went a little too the fan.
• 38:21
  Why? Because I think his seat's going to get hot. I don't think he's going
• 38:24
  to fire this. No, it was too, it was too milquetoast. Okay. I don't know.
• 38:27
  How about this? The team's not playing very well. The team should be playing well.
• 38:30
  It's not because of Jared Goff. It's not because of Amon-Ra St. Brown. It's not
• 38:34
  because of fucking Jahmyr Gibbs. So who is it going to be? It's going to
• 38:36
  be fucking Dan Campbell. Do I think Dan Campbell's going to— do I think Dan
• 38:39
  Campbell's getting fired this year? No, I do not. But I think
• 38:43
  there's going to be a lot of conversations this offseason if this team falls under
• 38:46
  .500, of which I think they're going to be fucking 2 games at least under
• 38:49
  .500. Exactly. There. You happy? This is no D-Fish
• 38:52
  over here. I want the— I want the hard-hitting facts. All right. You know what?
• 38:55
  Fuck Dan Campbell. I don't mean that. I love Dan Campbell. I like Dan
• 38:59
  Campbell a lot. This is a really, really bad— it's bad.
• 39:03
  I don't think— I think it's directionless. I think he's wasting
• 39:07
  a quarterback who is technically still in his prime, who's actually playing really
• 39:10
  well. Jared Goff has his weaknesses. He hasn't gotten any better necessarily
• 39:15
  at them, but he's not gotten worse. He's been better in Detroit than he was
• 39:18
  in Los Angeles, and I love that. But it was with other coordinators
• 39:21
  who were like helping him out. Major coordinators that are dominating in other places.
• 39:25
  He's been playing really well this season. Yeah, the numbers are showing up.
• 39:29
  Not everything's numbers, but like Jared Goff is doing his fucking job. Yes, he is.
• 39:32
  He is. Again, this is another team
• 39:36
  that didn't run the fucking ball.
• 39:39
  He had to throw 54 times. They ran Jahmyr Gibbs 15
• 39:43
  times. The only player in the fucking
• 39:47
  game for the Lions who ran the ball was Jahmyr Gibbs.
• 39:51
  One player ran 15 times.
• 39:54
  That's it. No designed quarterback runs for slow-ass—
• 39:58
  okay, fine. I understand Jared Goff doesn't do that. Not one
• 40:02
  other fucking player took a handoff. Not one other
• 40:06
  player ran that, rushed the fucking ball. Wow. I'm so surprised that even
• 40:10
  against a fairly, like, unimpressive Panthers defense, that they figured
• 40:14
  out a way to stop knowing Jared Goff was going to throw, or if
• 40:18
  he wasn't, who was going to run. This was just the fucking most pathetic
• 40:23
  offense I've ever seen. And also on top of that, I mean, even the fucking
• 40:25
  Rams had a rushing touchdown from Puka Nacua. Like, like they
• 40:29
  had people running. What? He can do anything. Yes, he can do
• 40:32
  fucking anything. Listen, you're not wrong. This team is a fucking disaster right now.
• 40:36
  And I've I've never seen a team so sorely miss— that would never happen
• 40:40
  under me. Miss Ben Johnson. Like, Ben Johnson, who— I didn't know Ben Johnson
• 40:44
  was just the fucking secret sauce this whole time. And Aaron Glenn, by the way.
• 40:47
  Yeah, Glenn hasn't looked good either. And they have Aiden Hutchinson. They have all these
• 40:50
  players that were supposed to be great, that looked great, and now they fucking don't.
• 40:53
  Yeah, dude, it's brutal. It's fucking brutal. And this was a team— and what the
• 40:56
  reason why it actually pisses me off is not the right word, but disappoints me
• 41:00
  quite a bit. Like, I really wanted this team to kind of fucking win a
• 41:03
  Super Bowl finally, or at least go to one. They've never fucking been to a
• 41:07
  Super Bowl. I did too. I really— this window, I think, is closed,
• 41:11
  man. Closed as fuck. It's fucking closed. You know what? Free Jared Goff.
• 41:15
  Really? I have always— because, like, he is
• 41:18
  a Super Bowl-capable quarterback. I think so too. But, like,
• 41:22
  where— I don't know where he can go at this point. That would be like,
• 41:24
  you know, whatever. But just for the record, and we are still believers in
• 41:29
  Kyler, but can you imagine if they got in the O'Connell system? Okay,
• 41:32
  that's valid. I understand that. Just can you imagine? Can you imagine
• 41:35
  that Minnesota might go undefeated if he was in Oklahoma?
• 41:38
  Minnesota loves to take like a former NFC North quarterback and go to an NFC.
• 41:42
  They're not scared to do it, man. They're really fucking not scared to do that
• 41:45
  shit. A great point. All right. A couple other things before we
• 41:49
  wrap up football.
• 41:53
  Oh, by the way, before we, before we move on from that, I just want
• 41:55
  to note that Ted McMillan is nuts. Ted McMillan's nuts.
• 42:00
  45 points for me in fantasy. Absolutely insane.
• 42:04
  And, uh, Bryce Young, I do think, deserves— there's a
• 42:09
  lot of people who have to apologize to him. Oh yes, I've been saying that
• 42:11
  for a fucking year though. Like, everybody needs to say they're fucking sorry.
• 42:15
  So there's that. Uh, we got, before we move on, 3 undefeated
• 42:19
  teams after Week 4: Niners, Chiefs, Vikings. And they're undefeated in wildly
• 42:23
  different ways. Uh, Niners, we know they're balanced, they're deep, they're efficient.
• 42:27
  Chiefs, Mahomes, an explosive plays and clutch ability in the running
• 42:30
  game of Kenneth Walker. And then we have the Vikings all defense and kicking and
• 42:34
  just like fucking grinding it out. I love that. Love— that's
• 42:37
  good. That's good for the league that we've got like these teams winning in different
• 42:41
  ways that don't— but they don't seem— none of these teams seem unbeatable,
• 42:46
  but they are excellent and giving
• 42:49
  us good football. Tyquan Thornton injury bumming
• 42:53
  me the fuck out. Not gonna lie. That sucked. But otherwise,
• 42:57
  I, you know, the Chiefs look like they're
• 43:02
  gonna just win games. They look good. They're just not like— if you make one
• 43:05
  mistake, if you do one thing— the Raiders had the opportunity
• 43:09
  to try to figure something out. You saw my face when they lost that game.
• 43:12
  Um, and like, you can't make mistakes like that against the Chiefs. They will
• 43:15
  just like make it difficult for you. They are not blowing people out, but they're
• 43:19
  surviving, and those teams are dangerous. Especially when they're dynasties. They're— it's just the
• 43:23
  Chiefs, man. The Chiefs are very much back. But I'm again very proud of my
• 43:26
  Raiders. Thought it was a great game because there was a time where they got
• 43:29
  down 2 scores and I'm like, oh shit, here it goes. This is— now it's
• 43:32
  gonna be back to the same old Raiders. No, it fucking wasn't. They came right
• 43:35
  back and they fought all the way to the last fucking play of the game.
• 43:38
  Sadly, somebody got their hands on, uh, on Kirk Cousins's arm
• 43:41
  as he was trying to make that last pass. It was a— it would have
• 43:44
  been a miracle pass anyways, to be quite honest with you. And that led to
• 43:48
  his one interception in the game. Kirk Cousins has been playing phenomenal. The Raiders are
• 43:51
  playing their asses off. They have nothing to be— nothing to be worried about,
• 43:55
  with the exception of one thing. For fuck's sake, can Ashton Gentry get his ass
• 43:58
  going? This guy is just not doing anything from the backfield. He made a couple
• 44:01
  big plays, but they were catches, weren't they? Like, he's doing fine with the catches.
• 44:04
  I'm just talking about the running game is just not getting going for the Raiders
• 44:07
  right now. Going to be that kind of running back for them. I hope so.
• 44:10
  Maybe they know that. I'm still hopeful. I think actually Because I think Washington's also
• 44:14
  a beast too. I think the head coach has figured out that that's just not
• 44:17
  Gente's role. I think that he is like— I think he's James White.
• 44:20
  I think he's, he's a pass-catching back. Here's one thing we definitely know. Raiders might
• 44:24
  have the very best tight end, tight end tandem in the game because him and
• 44:28
  Mayer, Brock Bowers and Mayer together. Tandem. Oh dude, Mayer's a beast.
• 44:32
  He's fine because they don't have any receivers. Yeah,
• 44:35
  it's— I would say, I would say like Brock
• 44:39
  Bowers is really doing the heavy lifting. Brock Bowers is a league
• 44:43
  of his own fucking tight end. And let's be honest,
• 44:47
  the Eagles offense looks like they all got roofied. Dude, what the fuck happened?
• 44:50
  Like, what the fuck happened? I know the offensive line is, is like demolished.
• 44:54
  I understand. Lane Johnson retired. They're, they're bad.
• 44:58
  Lane Johnson was bad anyway. I know, but he did retire today.
• 45:02
  He was bad anyway. Great. Fine. They,
• 45:05
  they'll just bring in somebody else. Like, I'm not sure it's much of a loss
• 45:09
  at this point. Um, they,
• 45:12
  they had 172 offensive yards. They were 0 for
• 45:16
  12 on third down, seems like 1 for 4 on fourth down,
• 45:20
  15 3-and-outs through 4 games.
• 45:23
  This is like a completely broken offense.
• 45:27
  And one of the games they've won was literally just because Jalen Hurts decided to
• 45:32
  go nuts. Tennessee, they should have lost to the Titans.
• 45:35
  So like, this is— I'm in full panic mode about the Eagles. You cannot turn
• 45:38
  me around from panic mode. Like, it's, it's between that and then the last 2
• 45:42
  games, I'm in panic mode. Um, and I
• 45:46
  don't know if this is like a Sirianni thing or what's going on, but halftime,
• 45:50
  this team always is like— they're like fine, hanging in, all good first
• 45:54
  half. Halftime happens, I don't know, they go back again. Are— is
• 45:58
  there Ruffalin in, in the Gatorade?
• 46:01
  They come back out and they look useless. Okay, he's got a theory. I have
• 46:05
  a theory. No, no, I have a theory that certain people of the Eagles,
• 46:07
  uh, front office knew this was coming. 100% knew this was coming.
• 46:12
  And that's why we got all those fucking Jalen Hurts stories.
• 46:15
  Some— they wanted to get it out that somebody was going to be at fault
• 46:18
  before this season even fucking started. They made sure it was Jalen Hurts before the
• 46:21
  season even began. I don't know. I do think
• 46:26
  that people have been trying to frame Jalen, um, out of the organization,
• 46:29
  but I don't think that they're like trying to lose games so that they can
• 46:32
  then— I don't think they're trying to lose games. I think they knew they were
• 46:34
  going to lose games because this looks like dog shit. This looks bad.
• 46:38
  Well, it's the same thing really, right? Like, it's like if you know you're gonna
• 46:41
  lose games and you're fine with it, that's like so that you can tank and
• 46:44
  what, get Arch Manning? Have fun with that. They're not gonna get Arch
• 46:48
  Manning. They're not gonna tank that badly. Well, maybe they will. I don't know.
• 46:51
  I mean, the Dolphins are really good. The Dolphins and Titans are going
• 46:55
  to be a serious run for your money on that one. And the Titans really
• 46:58
  need a quarterback because it's not going well. They— I,
• 47:03
  I am sick of the Titans ruining otherwise
• 47:07
  exciting potential. They really do that because, like, to be quite honest,
• 47:11
  Ryan Tannehill lowkey was sick. He was really good.
• 47:15
  Ryan Tannehill was low-key sick and the Titans fucked it up. Like,
• 47:19
  I don't know, it's like a cursed place for these fucking quarterbacks.
• 47:23
  You know what, it's because of what they did to Vince Young,
• 47:26
  probably. And it's— they're never getting past this. Jeff Fisher's fault.
• 47:30
  I, I always think that. I think that about most shit. Okay, great. Um,
• 47:35
  let's move on to headline number 2. Um,
• 47:38
  this was suggested by literally one of my favorite human beings on planet
• 47:42
  Earth. My, my sweetie pie, Tone Only Photography.
• 47:49
  Both sides of the contract divide between Karl-Anthony Towns and the Knicks are really
• 47:53
  convoluted right now. It is looking like the Knicks are just going
• 47:57
  to let Karl-Anthony Towns walk. I,
• 48:00
  I don't know. It's insane. I think it's— personally,
• 48:04
  I think it's fucking funny. I think it's hilarious. This is the most fucking
• 48:09
  Knicks thing you could ever fucking do in your life. You have a team that
• 48:12
  is so not just kind of like the most beloved team Dare I say,
• 48:15
  in like New York history. And I'm not just talking about the Knicks. I'm talking
• 48:19
  about fucking New York, a city with the Yankees with 27 championships.
• 48:22
  By the way, I just was doing this because I was arguing with people on
• 48:25
  Threads. And when I argue, I research because I'm a fucking psycho.
• 48:28
  Yeah. The NBA— the
• 48:33
  NBA Finals between the Knicks and Spurs got over 20 million viewers,
• 48:37
  and it was the first time since 20— 2017 that that
• 48:42
  had happened. Yeah, they— NBA Finals ratings had been in the
• 48:45
  fucking tank. They were down,
• 48:49
  down, down to like more than half of what the prime
• 48:52
  Golden State Warriors, Cavs were bringing in. The Spurs
• 48:57
  and the Knicks revived the whole fucking thing. We get back up, you know,
• 49:00
  smaller market share, but still like real actual ratings. Yeah,
• 49:04
  and like James Dolan, you've got like— you have to imagine that Adam
• 49:08
  Silver is like Can you fucking not? Can you just—
• 49:13
  James Dolan is incapable. He's fucking incapable without
• 49:17
  inserting it. He has to insert himself in the worst, stupidest shit
• 49:20
  ever. It's fucking unbelievable. These people need to— like, you guys
• 49:24
  collude all the time. These fucking owners— you can't collude to get James Dolan to
• 49:28
  stop tanking your fucking NBA ratings? Like, you need
• 49:32
  the Knicks to be good. You need the Knicks to be good. For your
• 49:36
  fucking ratings. They've proven it. The Celtics being good doesn't help you. The Lakers
• 49:39
  being good doesn't help you. None of it. Apparently right now it needs
• 49:43
  to be the Knicks. Okay,
• 49:46
  dude, guys, I don't know what to say other than like, I don't— James
• 49:50
  Dolan makes no fucking sense to me because they win the title and he
• 49:54
  immediately says, yeah, we're not going to the second tier. Motherfucker, even if that's the
• 49:57
  case, shut the fuck up. Don't even fucking say it. Just enjoy the championship
• 50:01
  that these guys won you. They won this for you, by the way, because you
• 50:05
  weren't meddling because you were so fucking busy with the Sphere and all the money
• 50:08
  you've lost on that. You weren't able to focus because they won it
• 50:12
  because he got lucky and got Jalen Brunson to turn down like
• 50:16
  $100-something million. I got questions about that roster
• 50:19
  after what I just saw with Kawhi. I got some questions about that now.
• 50:22
  No, don't you dare. I got questions.
• 50:26
  You do realize that that would involve James Dolan having
• 50:29
  to do what Steve Ballmer did. You know, Steve Ballmer is
• 50:33
  an actual, like, engineer. I know James Dolan is
• 50:37
  James Dolan. I hate to break it to you, but, like, James Dolan's not smart.
• 50:41
  He's not nearly smart enough. You're not wrong. Okay, I take that back. Maybe it's
• 50:44
  not happening to Jalen Brunson. So a max contract for the 30-year-old All-Star
• 50:48
  would introduce major second apron concerns, a space Knicks owner James
• 50:52
  Dolan has shown no interest in occupying. Towns, for his part, says he's willing to
• 50:56
  meet somewhere in the middle. I want to do something that can keep the team
• 50:58
  together and work with the Knicks and also feel valued. None of
• 51:02
  those things have come close to happening. So like you and I on record,
• 51:07
  KAT, Karl-Anthony Towns, our sweet baby angel, love him.
• 51:11
  We stand by KAT. We love KAT. We love Jordan. I'm the biggest KAT fan
• 51:14
  there fucking is. We're like, oh, like neither one of us is Knicks fans.
• 51:18
  No. And but like massive KAT people. But I've had the luxury
• 51:22
  of like hanging out with KAT and like being around him and Jordan.
• 51:25
  They are the fucking coolest 2 people you could ever meet. They're the best.
• 51:30
  They're so nice. Like, we are. And we were on this beat
• 51:33
  all through the NBA Finals. So now you've got— you've got that. You've got
• 51:37
  him being like, clearly not seeking a crazy contract. No. Like,
• 51:41
  yes, you might hit the second apron. You could win another title.
• 51:46
  He like, this motherfucker's got to go. That I
• 51:50
  am— I'm a fan of a team who just got rid of Jaylen Brown in
• 51:53
  a way they didn't need to because the team was bought. By private
• 51:58
  equity motherfuckers, right? Turns out at a massive discount, right?
• 52:03
  So I understand what— that's private
• 52:07
  equity bros. You let them buy the team, they're doing what private equity bros do.
• 52:10
  This sucks. Being a Celtics fan is going to suck for the rest of my
• 52:12
  life. This idiot is a legacy owner.
• 52:16
  He's not a fucking— like, he's not some random dude who bought the team to
• 52:19
  like flip it to make money. What are you— why are you acting like
• 52:22
  this? What is real? What is your fucking problem? I hate everybody.
• 52:26
  I hate everybody. He's— well, don't worry, he's gonna find a way to blame fucking
• 52:29
  Mondami or something. That's this fucking clown.
• 52:32
  He's a fucking clown. By the way, when's her White House visit that the
• 52:35
  team did not agree to?
• 52:39
  Oh my God, you noticed that hadn't happened yet, right? Oh yeah,
• 52:43
  have you noticed that? Because I sure as fuck have noticed that. I haven't.
• 52:47
  I'm waiting, I'm waiting, and I'm writing down names. Who's showing up?
• 52:51
  Who's going? Because I don't think it's going to happen. It's not going to happen
• 52:54
  because I noticed that James Dolan hasn't brought it up one fucking time. No.
• 52:57
  Who was it? Who was it that wanted to go? OG? Who? No, it wasn't.
• 53:00
  No, there was just one of them on the Celtics now. Oh, yeah, yeah,
• 53:03
  yeah. Robinson. He's, he's, he's a big MAGA guy, which I couldn't fucking believe.
• 53:07
  Mitch Robinson. Yeah. All right, so we've said our piece.
• 53:11
  Adam Silver, step in, collude, stop this. We need the Knicks
• 53:14
  ratings. I'm kidding. Obviously, don't collude, but like, genuinely, like,
• 53:18
  This, this league doesn't know what the— no, but I disagree. James Dolan
• 53:22
  colluded because you are just simply not smart enough to collude. You will be caught.
• 53:25
  Get caught. Fucking that. Yeah, and we don't have to deal with it anymore.
• 53:28
  Then you could be the in to get rid of all the antitrust exemptions.
• 53:31
  Think about it. Jimmy Dolan,
• 53:35
  do it. Do it. Be the criminal you know you want to be.
• 53:39
  Be the criminal in all of us. Yeah, be the dumbest member
• 53:42
  of the Ocean's Eleven. Headline number 3, um,
• 53:45
  the Yankees are looking rough against— in their, uh, in their playoff series against
• 53:49
  the Rays right now. Obviously division, division series, so I— it's not like I think
• 53:54
  that those are always obviously the most interesting, the most difficult to win, um,
• 53:58
  but they're looking rough. And we've seen
• 54:01
  this iteration of the Yankees where they're great, they have all the talent in the
• 54:05
  world, maybe you have some injuries, maybe you have whatever, but there's just like the
• 54:08
  payroll is there, everything's there. You've got fucking Your GM, who apparently
• 54:12
  will be, will be still the GM once he's dead and in the fucking grave.
• 54:15
  They're just never letting him go. Aaron Boone still got his job.
• 54:20
  They haven't lost the series, so I'm not saying that they won't come back and
• 54:23
  win. Maybe they do. Maybe they're gonna come. They're not looking like a team that's
• 54:27
  gonna do that. So again, since I like to
• 54:30
  actually get your baseball, I haven't been able to pay a ton of attention to
• 54:34
  the playoffs. Um, you know, I watched the Diamondbacks and the Red Sox
• 54:39
  all those games. I watched them get eliminated, and then I have only popped in
• 54:41
  like as often as I possibly can. What changes do
• 54:46
  the Yankees need to make? Because Ishnai316 asked us,
• 54:51
  or basically said, Yankees suck, might need to full rebuild the
• 54:55
  Pinstripes from the ground up. Now, that, that's his take. He's saying, he's thinking,
• 54:59
  what do you think about that? And if not a full sort of like
• 55:02
  clean slate thing, which the Yankees don't really do, What next?
• 55:06
  I think some names need to change. I think Brian Cashman's
• 55:10
  been there for like fucking 40 years. Brian Cashman's got to go. Brian Cashman
• 55:14
  does not put this team together the way I think a team in modern times
• 55:17
  needs to be put together at this point. The Yankees don't necessarily develop, even though
• 55:20
  they got a lot of young guys that they've brought up on this team that
• 55:24
  have done a really, really good job. They look like dogshit against
• 55:28
  this Tampa Bay Rays team, who is, in my opinion, by far
• 55:31
  the best team in the American League. And they're outclassing the living shit
• 55:35
  out of the Yankees. Um, injuries, because Aaron Judge is,
• 55:39
  let's face it, pretty old. Giancarlo Stanton, pretty old.
• 55:43
  Um, their pitching staff is good enough to get shit done, but here is the
• 55:47
  problem: this team makes the dumbest fucking mistakes of any team that's
• 55:50
  ever existed. And this has been the case under fucking— under
• 55:54
  not Cashman, under fucking Boone's fucking watch this whole time. My one
• 55:58
  complaint about Aaron Boone, and here's the truth, I don't know what he's like in
• 56:02
  the clubhouse. I, I assume these guys love him. Because he goes in the press.
• 56:05
  He's not known as a big clubhouse— he's not like an— like a Torre Lovello.
• 56:09
  But what he is though is he goes in public and he always defends his
• 56:12
  guys no matter fucking what. I've never seen him say a negative thing about one
• 56:15
  of his players ever. And I will tell you, that is actually a negative.
• 56:18
  This team makes stupid, stupid fucking mistakes.
• 56:21
  Base running mistakes that a fucking Little Leaguer doesn't make. Errors that
• 56:25
  fucking children are better than. They made 3 errors in the first
• 56:29
  inning just yesterday for Cam Schlittler. Somehow Cam Schiller only gave up one run
• 56:33
  in that fucking time because he's a fucking monster. Then of course another error.
• 56:36
  They made 4 fucking errors in this game and they were all dogshit stupid
• 56:40
  fucking errors. They— the base running mistakes. These guys
• 56:43
  make mistakes on the bases that are not even just— they're just
• 56:47
  fucking lazy and stupid. Wells got thrown out the first hit of
• 56:51
  the game. They were getting no-hit in like the 7th inning. Wells hits a ball
• 56:53
  down the right field line. Wells, who has got the speed
• 56:57
  of a fucking Nazi-era fucking truck,
• 57:01
  like truly slow motion,
• 57:04
  like he's running in gravy. Got thrown out by like 15 feet trying
• 57:07
  to— with 2 outs, trying to turn this into a triple. What the fuck are
• 57:11
  you going to third for? You got the first hit of the game and you're
• 57:13
  being no-hit. You're being dominated. And you got thrown out. And that was your one
• 57:16
  base runner you had in the entire fucking game. Dipshit type of stuff.
• 57:20
  And you know what? Aaron Boone says like, it's like a discipline. It's like they
• 57:23
  just don't. And I've never heard Aaron Boone say a word about it.
• 57:26
  Ever. So they don't even— like, was— did, did he get—
• 57:31
  that was him just deciding to go to third? He didn't— they didn't send him
• 57:33
  to third? No, I, I don't even think he looked at the third base coach.
• 57:35
  So that's— that is some like, we don't give a fuck. It's such a
• 57:40
  lack of discipline on the Yankees, and they're the goddamn Yankees. They're not worried about
• 57:43
  Aaron Boone. They don't give a fuck about what he's saying. I would agree.
• 57:44
  So that's actually not good. Like, to your point, he's not a good locker room
• 57:48
  coach. They don't give a fuck. But then Aaron Boone goes on fucking TV and
• 57:50
  says, oh, it was a rough one, you know, I believe in our guys.
• 57:52
  Yada, yada, yada. Motherfucker, call somebody out.
• 57:55
  Like, how much you want to bet he has no
• 57:59
  locker room presence there at all? And that's why he just like doesn't say shit,
• 58:02
  because he can't. He has no credibility with his players. They have— they clearly
• 58:06
  don't give a fuck. That's a problem, dude. It's, it's ugly. But I gotta be
• 58:10
  honest, like, my number one on my list and forever until he's fired
• 58:14
  is Brian Cashman. I don't— I, I— that, like, I've, I've never seen anything like
• 58:17
  it. He did not even build the team that went to a dynasty. That was
• 58:21
  a dynasty in the late '90s. That was Dick Michaels' team. That was Dick Michaels
• 58:23
  who built that fucking team. And then he brought
• 58:27
  in a couple of like great little free agents to like add to the core
• 58:31
  5 people that he fucking inherited that ran the dynasty. Oh, and by
• 58:35
  the way, those of you that have been like, oh, Dodgers are ruining baseball,
• 58:37
  motherfucker, go back in time and see how much the Yankees were outspending everybody.
• 58:41
  The Dodgers are outspending teams by like $10 million. Like the
• 58:45
  Mets payroll is practically exactly the same. Padres payroll is pretty fucking high. Yankees payroll
• 58:49
  is pretty fucking high. The disparity, the discrepancy is like 25%.
• 58:53
  The Yankees were like outspending everybody in baseball at the time by
• 58:57
  like 125%. Their payroll was literally double everyone
• 59:01
  else's. And by the way, by the way, they had been doing like they had
• 59:05
  been doing the bullshit Steinbrenner stuff. And what happened was
• 59:09
  Steinbrenner got in trouble, couldn't deal with baseball operations for a while.
• 59:12
  Sick Michael comes in, says, we're actually going to fucking bring up some prospects and
• 59:16
  develop some guys. Brings in the core 4.
• 59:20
  So even, even then, with all the money they were spending,
• 59:24
  the best thing they did once they, once they actually
• 59:27
  were like outside of just fucking spending money on whoever,
• 59:31
  was develop just like the Dodgers. So they bring up this crazy—
• 59:34
  I mean, to bring up those 4 dudes at the same time, I mean,
• 59:36
  it's not just pure borderline luck or amazing scouting, really,
• 59:40
  whatever, you know, there has to be something to it. But like, it also is
• 59:43
  timing is everything. But then yes, they could afford to keep them all for
• 59:47
  a while because they're— so to your point, but none of that was fucking Brian
• 59:51
  Cashman. Like, wow, you inherited those
• 59:55
  4 people and Bernie Williams, and then you spent millions upon
• 59:58
  millions of money to keep those 4 people, Bernie Williams, whoever else, and to bring
• 1:00:02
  in A-Rod. And what— oh wow, by the way, you never won a fucking title
• 1:00:06
  with A-Rod. Or did he? He won one. 2009. 2009 one.
• 1:00:10
  2009 one. A-Rod was on. He was. He was still on that
• 1:00:14
  team. He was still on that team. Goddamn, I'm mad about it too. I do
• 1:00:17
  not— I do not like that A-Rod has a ring. It really does. But here's
• 1:00:20
  the deal, like, something's got to change here. The fucking Yankees. And I'm— I want
• 1:00:24
  the Yankees to be the Yankees again. And because I do think it's—
• 1:00:28
  because I do think they were a really good fucking Yankees.
• 1:00:32
  We have the Yankees. There's the Dodgers. There's a difference. The Dodgers, and you'll probably
• 1:00:36
  disagree, up and down that lineup, that's a really likable fucking team and they're
• 1:00:39
  a lot of fucking fun to watch. You want like— I want an actual fucking
• 1:00:42
  villain. The Yankees were an actual villain. Villains. Okay.
• 1:00:46
  Like, they were a real villain. They were unlikable fucks.
• 1:00:49
  They were fucking really good and they were outspending everyone.
• 1:00:53
  The Dodgers, they're outspending people, but they're also developing like motherfuckers.
• 1:00:56
  They scout better than everybody. Everyone loves playing for them. And the team itself
• 1:01:01
  is really likable. Like, really fucking likable. Except for Mike Trout. That you didn't
• 1:01:04
  like Roger Clemens. I did not. I did not.
• 1:01:09
  I'm shocked. Card-carrying member of the anti-Clemens club.
• 1:01:12
  And I don't even love Mike Piazza that much, but I'm just— I'm still mad
• 1:01:16
  Mike Piazza didn't just turn left and beat the ever-loving fuck out of Roger Clemens
• 1:01:19
  that night. My all-time favorite Yankee is— who do you want to guess? Like,
• 1:01:23
  I mean, it's Bernie Williams. Ever. It, it's— it should be Bernie Williams.
• 1:01:26
  It's not. There's someone else. Okay. Uh,
• 1:01:30
  same era? Just after. Just after.
• 1:01:33
  Oh, just Nick Swisher. No. Fuck no. I hate
• 1:01:37
  Nick Swisher. Swisher's the man. You would love Nick Swisher. I would not.
• 1:01:41
  I'm going to introduce you to Nick Swisher. I've met Nick. You're going to really—
• 1:01:44
  I've known Nick Swisher for like 25 years. I fucking love Nick Swisher. No,
• 1:01:46
  he was fine, but like, he gave real douche vibes. Well, yeah, that's how he
• 1:01:50
  is at all times. Like, yeah, bro, this is going to be a great fucking
• 1:01:52
  day. Yeah, he was fine. He's like that all the time. No, he just gave
• 1:01:56
  me like douche vibes. But, but to your point, like, that's kind of like he's
• 1:02:00
  just a bro. Who is it? It's Hideki Mitsui. I get that. Yeah, I get
• 1:02:03
  that. You can't be mad at him. Yeah, it's like being mad at Muni Murakami.
• 1:02:07
  Yeah, it's impossible. I am Japanese and that's not me doing it. Like,
• 1:02:11
  that's, that's how he sounds. I am Devin E. I want to make this abundantly
• 1:02:13
  clear just because I know we're not touching on it today. The White Sox are
• 1:02:17
  the best story in actual— oh, someone asked us, someone asked us, is it
• 1:02:20
  fair that God is helping the White Sox? Yes. And I was like, yes.
• 1:02:23
  They lost 100 games 3 years in a row. This team's won 1 championship
• 1:02:28
  since 2000— since 1917. They've won a total of 3 series
• 1:02:32
  since 1917. Let God
• 1:02:35
  help. Let God, let God take the wheel. I want them in the ALCS
• 1:02:39
  so bad. I want them in the World Series so bad. It's not going to
• 1:02:43
  happen, but I'd love to see it. We're going to go to Media Corner.
• 1:02:46
  We got a couple of— we got a couple of winners over here in Media
• 1:02:49
  Corner. Our— our— my
• 1:02:53
  follower Elise said Carly Irsay Gordon being a boss on the sidelines
• 1:02:57
  instead of just listening to yes-men. We'd love to see it, right?
• 1:03:01
  So thank you for that. Someone who did not—
• 1:03:04
  who is just simply not appreciating the girl bossing.
• 1:03:08
  That Carly Rae Jepsen is doing is notorious
• 1:03:12
  misogynist Bill Simmons, our friend over at the Rose Bowl. Now,
• 1:03:15
  you didn't know that Bill Simmons has a history of like real, like overt— and
• 1:03:20
  I don't blame you. No, no, no. I mean this from the bottom of my
• 1:03:21
  heart. I like— I know who Bill Simmons is, right?
• 1:03:25
  I've never once— and I know you're going to call me crazy— I never once
• 1:03:28
  seen his work ever. I know he runs the radio. I know that you are
• 1:03:31
  like actually like tapped out on just how big of a deal he
• 1:03:35
  is. But a lot of it is because you were in baseball for like— the
• 1:03:39
  motherfucker wasn't talking about baseball since— last time he talked about baseball was he made
• 1:03:42
  4 days in October. Like, I just think that like he was so concentrated on
• 1:03:45
  NBA and other stuff that he probably wasn't even finding his way into your circles.
• 1:03:50
  Which is fair, and you're lucky for that. Unfortunately for me,
• 1:03:54
  I was raised in Boston,
• 1:03:57
  and he was a fucking big deal. Then I come out here and now he's
• 1:04:00
  a fucking big deal at Grantland and The Ringer. And now he's
• 1:04:04
  finally starting to fade into obscurity. And you would think that he had learned
• 1:04:09
  something from years of saying derogatory shit about WNBA
• 1:04:13
  players, about Sue Bird and Diana Trazzi,
• 1:04:16
  talking about how women shouldn't be able to play fantasy football.
• 1:04:20
  Dead serious. This dude was like an OG early
• 1:04:24
  2000s misogynist, sexist pig. Good to know, right?
• 1:04:27
  Good to know. Now he's hired a bunch of people who are much better
• 1:04:31
  people than him who have tried to straighten him out. But apparently you can only
• 1:04:34
  do so much when he's on with Cousin Sal or whoever the fuck that dude
• 1:04:38
  is. He said Bill Simmons is done. Sorry, this, this headline says Bill
• 1:04:41
  Simmons is done pretending Colts owner Carly Irsay Gordon being
• 1:04:46
  on the sideline isn't bonkers. So let's go
• 1:04:50
  to Mocha and have him pull up the clip of what Bill Simmons said about
• 1:04:53
  Colts owner Carly Irsay Gordon being on the sideline.
• 1:04:59
  Line. I'm not going to tiptoe around this anymore. I— and I know it's been
• 1:05:03
  a topic the last couple weeks— I think the owner on the sidelines taking notes
• 1:05:06
  is fucking nuts. I think it's nuts.
• 1:05:11
  I, I think you wouldn't respond. I was pretending you had a crush on her,
• 1:05:14
  which I completely made it— I think it's bonkers. I can't believe
• 1:05:18
  she does this, and I can't believe people in her life haven't talked her out
• 1:05:21
  of it. And Now there's this push of like,
• 1:05:24
  oh no, no, she's really into it. If a
• 1:05:28
  male owner was doing this, we would be ridiculing this guy till
• 1:05:32
  the cows came home. This would be like when Vivek was celebrating
• 1:05:35
  the Summer League title in the NBA and we thought that was so funny.
• 1:05:39
  We would think it was so fucking funny if some rich
• 1:05:44
  guy male owner was on the sideline with a notebook hovering
• 1:05:47
  over and giving advice to the coach. We'd be like, this guy, even Jerry
• 1:05:50
  Jones wouldn't do that. Right. And, and Irsay's daughter's doing
• 1:05:54
  it. We're like, oh yeah, well, you know, she cares about the team. Why are
• 1:05:58
  we making excuses for how weird this is? I'm not going to—
• 1:06:03
  Well, Tanya, it turns out I fucking hate him.
• 1:06:06
  So here's the thing. Here's the thing. I'm done
• 1:06:10
  pretending that Bill Simmons having a microphone isn't bonkers.
• 1:06:14
  What the fuck are you talking about? First of all, the idea that,
• 1:06:17
  like, this is akin to a, like, meddling owner.
• 1:06:21
  Which— that's the point he made. That's the point the author of the awful announcing
• 1:06:25
  article made, which is like, oh, I get the fucking— no, she has point-blank
• 1:06:29
  said several times, I'm not down there telling them how to do their job,
• 1:06:33
  telling them how to run their football. Like, I'm not, I'm not asking for fucking
• 1:06:36
  plays, or I am trying to understand exactly where—
• 1:06:40
  it's like, I know some of you have never done a, like,
• 1:06:43
  a job where you actually had to try, because some of you are white
• 1:06:46
  men who failed up because you had just the right amount of fucking frat
• 1:06:49
  bro humor in 1999 to succeed. But some
• 1:06:54
  of us understand that when you, when you really fully examine
• 1:06:58
  the mechanics of like a workflow and what's happening
• 1:07:02
  and where communication issues might be, that you can be a better fucking boss.
• 1:07:07
  That's it. She has said this on a microphone
• 1:07:10
  repeatedly over and over and over again. I don't— I am not interfering
• 1:07:14
  in football operations. I'm not telling them who they should draft or what fucking plays
• 1:07:17
  they should run. But as an owner, by the way, I still
• 1:07:21
  have a job as an owner to make sure my football team is set up
• 1:07:24
  for success. And part of that is not coming into a room and being like,
• 1:07:28
  hey, I don't know how this works when you guys are
• 1:07:32
  calling down from the booth for offensive play calls, or I don't know what's going
• 1:07:35
  on. Like examining where there might be fucking breakdowns on the sideline.
• 1:07:39
  By the way, when you're down there, you do see— I don't
• 1:07:43
  know if anybody's— anybody else has been on an NFL sideline, but what happens down
• 1:07:46
  there is like There's all kinds of shit that goes wrong. Where's the water bottles?
• 1:07:49
  Where's the fucking headsets? When did this happen? Where did this go? Why did this
• 1:07:52
  happen? There's an owner understanding what's happening
• 1:07:56
  in a football game is not weird.
• 1:08:00
  This is not Jerry Jones deciding he can be the general manager.
• 1:08:05
  Bringing Jerry Jones' name up shows— was the most fucking batshit part
• 1:08:09
  of this entire thing. Jerry wouldn't do this. Jerry's the fucking GM, you fuck.
• 1:08:12
  Fucking dipshit. Jerry doesn't do that because he wants
• 1:08:15
  to sit in his fucking luxury suite.
• 1:08:19
  And by the way, if you don't think Jerry Jones has, has Brian
• 1:08:23
  Schottenheimer on some fucking like cell phone protocol,
• 1:08:27
  you're crazy. You think that if Jerry Jones actually,
• 1:08:32
  if he wanted to call Brian Schottenheimer and say he's
• 1:08:37
  lined up in shotgun and he's throwing it fucking, that's, this is going to be
• 1:08:40
  like a corner route. That he wouldn't fucking do it? He probably
• 1:08:44
  has. He's Jerry Jones. You guys are fucking
• 1:08:47
  insane, number one. Two, he actively tells
• 1:08:51
  us he meddles. Jerry Jones literally says,
• 1:08:56
  I run this team, I do whatever I want, they tell— they do what I
• 1:08:59
  tell them to do. He doesn't even hide it, to his credit. This is like
• 1:09:02
  the most— how about this? I got a question for you because again, I don't
• 1:09:05
  know anything about Bill Simmons's fucking past. Yeah. How many sports teams has he worked
• 1:09:09
  for? Sports teams? Yeah. Has he ever worked for
• 1:09:13
  a team in any— did the Celtics hire him? The Red Sox hire
• 1:09:16
  him? Have the Patriots hired him? Has he ever actually worked in sports outside
• 1:09:20
  of having a microphone, being from Boston and just being a loudmouth motherfucker? Well,
• 1:09:24
  I mean, he's in media. Like, I don't— that's great. But like,
• 1:09:28
  where do you get the fucking balls to sit here and bitch
• 1:09:32
  about how other people— by the way, owner of the fucking team. You have a
• 1:09:36
  microphone. You've never played a sport. You never worked in a sport. You, you just
• 1:09:39
  are a guy from Boston who thinks he fucking knows things. You don't know shit.
• 1:09:43
  You've never known shit. I, I'm baffled, fucking baffled by
• 1:09:47
  this. And invoking Jerry Jones's name, of all the fucking people,
• 1:09:50
  you could have named almost any fucking owner in the fucking sport. Literally, you could
• 1:09:54
  have fucking named Jimmy Dolan and I would have fucking allowed that more than Jerry
• 1:09:57
  fucking Jones. There was a Snickers commercial 10 years ago when Phillips
• 1:10:01
  was the fucking head coach of this team, getting a fucking— a joking thing from
• 1:10:05
  his offensive coordinator, puts in the play. Jerry Jones gives the offensive
• 1:10:08
  coordinator a fucking Snickers and then says, now hand me those headphones, and takes over
• 1:10:12
  as offensive coordinator. That was a fucking commercial. It's also been real life
• 1:10:16
  for the last 35 fucking years. Like, you're fucking insane.
• 1:10:19
  You just don't like women doing fucking things. That's your fucking
• 1:10:23
  problem, and it pisses me off I have to even fucking address it.
• 1:10:27
  And the funny part is that there's a long history
• 1:10:31
  of him having a lot to say about Jeannie Buss, for example.
• 1:10:36
  Of course, why not? A ton of women owners, right? Has he said anything,
• 1:10:39
  anything about the Intuit deal over there with Kawhi and, and the Ballmer issue?
• 1:10:42
  I'm sure he has. Like, to be honest, like, probably. Maybe. I haven't heard about
• 1:10:46
  it. But also, so have the rest of us, right? So it's like, I don't
• 1:10:48
  fucking know. And again, his shit gets buried unless he's being— so I'm just talking—
• 1:10:53
  he's not interested. Well, I guess this is— I guess this is the way for
• 1:10:55
  him to get himself back out there. Carly Irsay is just headphones. Can you believe
• 1:10:59
  it? Can you believe somebody that owns a multi-billion dollar product wants to know
• 1:11:03
  how it's fucking running? I can't fucking fathom this.
• 1:11:06
  Really dumb. Um, so just a reminder, Bill Simmons
• 1:11:10
  doesn't want— doesn't want people to know how things work.
• 1:11:13
  So, and you know what, by the way that you've done media for the last
• 1:11:17
  20 years, Bill, we can tell. We can tell you don't want to know how
• 1:11:20
  things work. Um, now somebody who looks like who
• 1:11:24
  makes Bill— someone who makes Bill Simmons look like a Mensa candidate.
• 1:11:27
  Okay, boy oh boy. By the way, he makes him look like he should be
• 1:11:31
  nominated for a Pulitzer. Holy hell, you ain't lying. Barstool's Dave Portnoy was pulled
• 1:11:35
  from Fox's Big Noon Kickoff appearances.
• 1:11:38
  Um, we used to work there, didn't we? Didn't, didn't they just put
• 1:11:43
  Ted Cruz on television? Do you know how bad you have to be
• 1:11:47
  at television to be kicked off of Fox Sports
• 1:11:52
  He's so bad at TV. So it's really funny because this is something that was
• 1:11:55
  also an issue for Bill Simmons. They tried to put Bill Simmons on TV.
• 1:11:58
  I remember his HBO show that lasted all of 5 minutes. They were putting him
• 1:12:01
  on NBA, on the NBA show, like the pregame, you know, like the panel.
• 1:12:06
  And it was so bad. The same thing happened. But like, he was just like
• 1:12:09
  a little less, like slightly less offensive than Dave Portnoy. Again,
• 1:12:14
  he's really, really bad at TV.
• 1:12:16
  Anybody on planet Earth would have known that he's he's like not—
• 1:12:21
  he's not particularly attractive, so I don't know why you'd put him up. Like,
• 1:12:24
  it's not like there's— there's no reason other
• 1:12:28
  than to— like, you're just like, I love that he's a bigoted white bro,
• 1:12:31
  right? Like, we already know that's why he's on TV. My favorite part about this
• 1:12:34
  was before all this came out, before I tell you guys all like what actually
• 1:12:38
  happened, Brittany Quinn's kind of been on one lately about like being kind of— oh,
• 1:12:41
  he hasn't even been trying to hide how much he fucking hates David. But he's
• 1:12:45
  also been sick about other stuff too. Like, for him, like, there was another thing
• 1:12:48
  he did. I was like, oh, Brady, okay, all right. I remembered he's, he's married
• 1:12:51
  to a, uh, a, uh, Boston woman, a Massachusetts— oh, so yeah,
• 1:12:55
  yeah, he's, he's probably— she's a former, um, US Olympian. Um,
• 1:12:59
  oh, a female athlete. Oh God. Well, if there's something I know Portnoy
• 1:13:03
  doesn't like— so, um, he's,
• 1:13:07
  he's been fed up with some, like, a lot of shit, whatever. Dave Portnoy goes
• 1:13:10
  on a weird rant about how there's too many lightning delays and essentially
• 1:13:14
  like these are a bunch of pussies, they should be playing through lightning.
• 1:13:18
  And like, what if even if you like do a lightning delay, it could just
• 1:13:21
  strike you if you're sitting in the crowd and you've left? It was like insane.
• 1:13:26
  And Brady Quinn just goes, I wish you'd get struck by lightning,
• 1:13:29
  Dave. And he said it dead serious.
• 1:13:33
  He is so over it. Oh dude, I, I— so you know what sucks?
• 1:13:36
  Like, like, listen, Brady Quinn had a career that you know, unique. It was— it
• 1:13:40
  didn't go the way it was supposed to. The— but like, Brady Quinn was
• 1:13:43
  an NFL quarterback. Like, he was a guy that was drafted, granted not in
• 1:13:47
  the first round, and that was a rough night. I remember that draft night.
• 1:13:49
  But I gotta say, like, Brady Quinn is really, in my opinion, what— based
• 1:13:54
  on what I've seen, has really done a decent job in the media. So I,
• 1:13:56
  I've met Brady Quinn. Um, I, I met him a couple of times
• 1:14:00
  at Fox. Nice guy. Um, super nice. Good to hear. Super handsome. Very,
• 1:14:03
  very cool. Very handsome. Um, I, I met Matt Leinart
• 1:14:07
  like briefly, not as like overtly nice but also not
• 1:14:11
  a dick or anything like that. Also handsome and like whatever, like cool
• 1:14:16
  dudes, accomplished, we know their names, they're great TV guys.
• 1:14:20
  So I also, if I were Dave Portnoy who had to be on that broadcast
• 1:14:24
  with like actual football players, oh, I'd fucking be— it'd be a nightmare.
• 1:14:27
  It'd be a fucking nightmare. Like truly, like that, that job that Dave is in
• 1:14:31
  is like is for somebody that's been in
• 1:14:34
  the industry in some facet. Like, I— it's,
• 1:14:38
  it's the court jester. But here's the thing, you would imagine being cast as
• 1:14:41
  the court jester and knowing it, but he's not a court jester.
• 1:14:45
  Yes, he is. He's not funny. Oh no, the court jester isn't
• 1:14:49
  there to be funny. They're there to humiliate themselves for the king.
• 1:14:52
  Who's the king? Us.
• 1:14:56
  It's not working. Yeah, he did. Oh no, he humiliates
• 1:15:00
  himself, but it's not fun. No, it's It was never fun. I don't
• 1:15:04
  think you know what a court jester was really doing. But okay. Anyways, Dave Portnoy,
• 1:15:08
  like they basically say Fox's
• 1:15:12
  big noon kickoff pregame show, they're not doing it. They're not putting him
• 1:15:15
  on the show anymore. The person talked to AP on condition of anonymity because the
• 1:15:18
  decision had not been publicly announced at the time. The Athletic was the first to
• 1:15:21
  report it. The Barstool Sports founder said on social media that
• 1:15:26
  it was Ohio State coach Ryan Day who forced Fox Sports
• 1:15:30
  to take him off the show. He said juice wasn't worth the squeeze, and frankly,
• 1:15:33
  I don't blame them. Huge dollars at stake and you have Cryin' Ryan throwing
• 1:15:37
  temper tantrums and making threats every few days on something I say,
• 1:15:41
  Portnoy said in his post. Fox Sports had no comment. Ohio State referred
• 1:15:45
  all questions about Portnoy to Fox Sports. Now,
• 1:15:49
  first of all, he's doing like the Trump thing, like giving someone a nickname for
• 1:15:52
  no reason. We know he's a huge Michigan fan. Fox didn't bring him on thinking
• 1:15:56
  he was going to be normal about Ohio State. None of this has to do
• 1:15:59
  with Ryan Day. I don't even like Ryan Day, but this is fucking stupid.
• 1:16:02
  Yeah. One of our, like, best followers and biggest supporters
• 1:16:06
  at Black Girls Love Fantasy, our girl JJ, said,
• 1:16:10
  is traditional sports media dead? It doesn't matter where I listen.
• 1:16:14
  I get more honest news and takes from independent sports journalists than the mainstream.
• 1:16:17
  ESPN and my local sports radio stations are both unlistenable.
• 1:16:20
  We get— we keep getting told that women's teams have to earn
• 1:16:24
  their coverage in cities where the team successes are eclipsing the men. Is this
• 1:16:28
  just late-stage capitalism and terrible hot take and terrible
• 1:16:32
  hot takes get the money? Yeah. In my opinion,
• 1:16:35
  it's not dead. It's not completely dead. It's— they're trying to kill it,
• 1:16:39
  but it is in hospice care. Yeah, it is.
• 1:16:42
  How about this? It's the places you're looking. It is dead. If you're looking
• 1:16:46
  at ESPN, if you're looking at Fox Sports, dead. It's more than dead. Dead and
• 1:16:48
  buried. That's not what they do. Those are full-on entertainment brands, period. Stop.
• 1:16:52
  That's what they're trying to do. It's hot take. It's clickbait. It's all honestly all
• 1:16:55
  nonsense and bullshit. But there are people that are very much trying to
• 1:16:59
  do the job. Well, that's what she said. She's, she's looking at independent.
• 1:17:03
  It's the only place you can look. People that are like really doing
• 1:17:06
  their own thing. That's that. She is finding great content. You have to find it.
• 1:17:10
  But yeah, she's— I mean, like, or people who are sort of these
• 1:17:13
  offshoots of major brands. Like Pablo Torre is affiliated,
• 1:17:16
  right, with The Athletic, I believe, right? I believe so.
• 1:17:20
  But he is his own entity. He is independent journalism, like,
• 1:17:23
  really and truly. At the end of the day, he doesn't answer to a corporate
• 1:17:27
  overlord in the same way that people at ESPN and Fox do.
• 1:17:30
  Um, and I do think that— I, I think
• 1:17:34
  that the sports landscape has changed so quickly that her question makes a lot of
• 1:17:37
  sense to me. Because, like, for a while we were doing the, like, normal conversation
• 1:17:42
  about, like, the first take-ification of sports television,
• 1:17:45
  and it felt like that was its own thing, but we could still find like
• 1:17:49
  normal shit to watch on TV from these networks.
• 1:17:54
  Even the shows I was working on, like, they, they weren't—
• 1:17:59
  this is an unrecognizable sports media landscape to me from
• 1:18:04
  3 years ago. Like, to be quite honest, no, you're not wrong. It's gone,
• 1:18:09
  it's gone downhill very quickly. It is Trump-related.
• 1:18:13
  It is like this like fascist media takeover related. Yep. It is,
• 1:18:17
  um, gambling and advertising in that space and the prediction markets
• 1:18:21
  related. Yep. And it has all happened very, very quickly. So the whiplash
• 1:18:25
  for people, I think, is like, holy fuck, I went from like being able to
• 1:18:29
  sometimes tune into this to it being so completely useless to
• 1:18:33
  me that I don't know what to do. Now I feel like there is
• 1:18:37
  like— that is going to like— I think this is such an extreme swing that
• 1:18:40
  there is going to be a backlash. I think you're right. Um, but in the
• 1:18:43
  meantime, I just don't know how long it's gonna take. That, that's the thing.
• 1:18:46
  This is— or if we're gonna last long enough to fucking see it, right?
• 1:18:49
  Like, I mean, are we gonna be— are we gonna be out there foraging for
• 1:18:52
  our own mushrooms by the time the fuck— like, I mean, we're at— we're not—
• 1:18:56
  you and I can't— Mocha can't sleep because the fuck— it's too hot outside.
• 1:19:00
  Like, we are— we live in a place that used to be 75 and sunny
• 1:19:04
  most of the year, never higher, never lower. It's been 100 all week on the
• 1:19:07
  west side. It's 100 in October. Shit's going to hell.
• 1:19:11
  We might not make it to see where this all goes. But in the meantime,
• 1:19:14
  presidents daring countries we're in war with to
• 1:19:19
  bomb literally 2 of our major cities on the West Coast. The regulars
• 1:19:23
  might be over. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, we might have seconds.
• 1:19:26
  I don't know. Yeah. We have no idea if we're really
• 1:19:30
  going to make it another day over here with foreign countries getting
• 1:19:34
  the okay. I mean, they got the okay, which is a fucking wild thing to
• 1:19:37
  say out loud. I can't believe this is fucking
• 1:19:40
  wild. Um, I think that like we just finally got to our, you know,
• 1:19:44
  our goals on some— on, uh, yeah, we finally reached it. So really
• 1:19:48
  it is a good time to take us out, I guess. Yeah, at least our
• 1:19:51
  Wikipedia page will say that we had reached 1,200 subscribers
• 1:19:55
  on YouTube. Oh yeah, of course, we will die on top.
• 1:19:59
  That's all that matters. But, but to her point, like, yeah,
• 1:20:03
  you have to like really care. And I think that that's why I
• 1:20:06
  feel really so happy about what we're bringing to the,
• 1:20:09
  to the table, because we're not, um, content creators. We're people from the media
• 1:20:13
  and from sports that are doing independent content and media. Yeah.
• 1:20:17
  And like, there's actually like, it's like there's only 10
• 1:20:22
  or 12 like really great shows doing the similar stuff with people who have been
• 1:20:25
  in the media or been athletes or both that are doing real
• 1:20:29
  sports talk and conversation. It's also part of the reason why,
• 1:20:33
  like, I've resisted even like bringing on guests onto the show because
• 1:20:36
  I feel so much like we have constantly have so much to talk about that
• 1:20:40
  people are begging for, like, from us. They need to hear something.
• 1:20:43
  They need to hear some sort of reality around sports because it's not real.
• 1:20:46
  I know we could bring in these people and we will, we will, we will.
• 1:20:50
  But like lately people have just been craving like normal conversation.
• 1:20:54
  Um, and there's a reason for that. It is because, like, I, I hate to
• 1:20:59
  say this, it's, it's this massive world where the guys— like, we did a
• 1:21:03
  thing, like, it must have been like 3 months ago, where you put up a,
• 1:21:05
  put up a graphic of, like, which one of the— if you had to get
• 1:21:08
  rid of 2 of these guys, and it was like 9 of the, the people
• 1:21:11
  you just hate in sports media. It was like the Pat McAfees, it was the
• 1:21:14
  Stephen A. Smiths. But, like, we both, like, went through, like, no, Pat was a
• 1:21:18
  player, and, like, he's in that— he on this list. Stephen A.
• 1:21:21
  Smith, I may hate the shit, but like, he was a journalist. He could stay
• 1:21:25
  on this list because I looked out throughout that list and Dave Portnoy's on this
• 1:21:28
  list, right? Dave Portnoy has no business being in sports even a little.
• 1:21:31
  Like, literally no fucking business. Zero business.
• 1:21:34
  It, it makes me really fucking sick that my former— our former
• 1:21:39
  employer Fox employs him to do fucking anything. It's a joke. It's a fucking joke.
• 1:21:42
  He's like— he is evidence that we've
• 1:21:46
  been in late-stage capitalism since about 2010, because the rise
• 1:21:50
  of Dave Portnoy was one thing that was a problem. But for him to be
• 1:21:53
  elevated to this point, the platforming— when I say I— at
• 1:21:57
  one point Bill Simmons was at least an interesting writer, even if he wasn't like—
• 1:22:01
  at least he had fucking talent. Like, we are talking about— we are talking
• 1:22:04
  about the most talentless person that's ever risen
• 1:22:09
  to prominence, brings in zero to the table. And it's not even
• 1:22:12
  close. He has— he doesn't have an intellectual take of any kind,
• 1:22:16
  doesn't even have a funny take of any kind. He just bitches and
• 1:22:20
  moans. And he— and honestly, the only time he's even remotely interesting— and I am,
• 1:22:24
  by the way, being sarcastic— is when he goes on Megyn Kelly's show,
• 1:22:27
  which is just such a wonderful show. Um, I can't stress this enough,
• 1:22:31
  has no fucking business in this industry. It is insane
• 1:22:35
  that anyone employs them. Fox should be embarrassed, but I know
• 1:22:38
  them, they have no fucking He's— he is quite literally the worst person
• 1:22:42
  to ever rise to any prominence. I am blown away this is—
• 1:22:45
  we're still in this world. I can't believe Barstool is still a thing. It's really
• 1:22:49
  fucking wild. And not even that, like, both ESPN and Fox Sports have tried
• 1:22:53
  to make it a thing repeatedly. They will not let it go.
• 1:22:57
  They want to fratify and bro-ify
• 1:23:00
  and massage-ify their fucking content so badly,
• 1:23:04
  and then, then they do it and they're like, Oh, this is rough. And you're
• 1:23:08
  like, oh my God, it's like, holy fucking shit, just have good
• 1:23:12
  people talking about sports. That's how you fucking existed. Like, holy shit,
• 1:23:15
  you had a golden era of just talking about sports.
• 1:23:19
  You're crazy. You love misogyny and white men so much, you love power so much
• 1:23:23
  that you're willing to tank your own product. You're willing to
• 1:23:27
  tank your own reputations as executives. You are willing to do all of
• 1:23:31
  that just to shove a 5'9 red-faced
• 1:23:36
  loudmouth misogynist with fucking fake yarn injected
• 1:23:40
  into his scalp, by the way, into our face. That dogshit
• 1:23:44
  hair plugs. He's got seriously bad hair plugs.
• 1:23:48
  Okay, I'll stop ranting. You had your— well,
• 1:23:51
  he's got bad hair plugs. Okay, as a guy that looked into getting them.
• 1:23:55
  Um, all right, we— I think we said everything we need to say. Let's go
• 1:23:58
  to Pop Culture Corner. Let's do it. Finally, something fun to talk about!
• 1:24:01
  Lanterns is the fucking best show. It is so good.
• 1:24:05
  It is so good. You know what, Tanya? You were right.
• 1:24:08
  You were right. You were right. I was wrong. I was completely wrong.
• 1:24:12
  I was very excited to see Kyle Chandler in the role because I thought he
• 1:24:15
  looked like he was gonna be an interesting Hal Jordan. I didn't fucking realize that
• 1:24:20
  we were talking about modern-day fucking Brando with the fucking performance we got out
• 1:24:24
  of this guy. Hal Jordan's performance by fucking Kyle Chandler
• 1:24:27
  is— should win every Emmy available. Anything you
• 1:24:31
  can nominate him for— cinematography, fucking nominate Kyle
• 1:24:35
  Chandler. Didn't hold a camera, just by being on camera, don't care. He was just
• 1:24:39
  on camera and he was the cinematography. This was such a good
• 1:24:42
  fucking show with such good performances, and I do mean this by everyone.
• 1:24:47
  This is— it was a tour de force from everyone. The story
• 1:24:51
  was interesting, the story was intricate, the story was
• 1:24:56
  different. And that's the other thing, and this is something I really want— I'm gonna
• 1:24:59
  get into with this. I am a DC fanatic. I have
• 1:25:02
  thousands of DC comics. To be 100% fair, you actually don't need to get that
• 1:25:06
  into it about how much of a DC fanatic you are. To be fair,
• 1:25:11
  our viewers do know that. My point is that there is— please don't.
• 1:25:15
  My point is simply this. You were just saying that like to
• 1:25:19
  paint a picture of who I'm gonna yell at. Well, and to establish that like
• 1:25:22
  like you are coming from this not just as a like TV watcher fan,
• 1:25:26
  which, which I am. You're coming at it from like, this was my favorite— Green
• 1:25:30
  Lantern is my favorite comic. My favorite comic. I, uh, the, the run, the Kyle
• 1:25:34
  Rayner run in the '90s, Emerald Twilight before that. Oh God, hold on.
• 1:25:38
  The Geoff Johns runs in Rebirth and everything that happened with the Sinestro War
• 1:25:41
  into Darkest Night. All of these things. Remember, we have a show,
• 1:25:44
  we have a pop culture show not full of DC nerds. Please keep
• 1:25:48
  it, keep it, guys. Those of you that are not DC nerds, like like pathetic
• 1:25:52
  meme. Um, you'll notice online the worst grouping—
• 1:25:56
  there are a lot of bad fandoms. There's a lot of bad fandoms. Marvel fans
• 1:25:58
  can be fucking nightmares. No one's worse than Star Wars. Star Wars fans are by
• 1:26:03
  far the worst. I, I don't think— I'm gonna push back. I'm gonna push back.
• 1:26:05
  You think it's worse? I think DC's worse. Okay, I'm gonna tell you why DC's
• 1:26:08
  worse. And Mocha, let me hear if you got anything on this, because DC fans
• 1:26:12
  are so weirdly defied— like divided within themselves because
• 1:26:16
  there are so many Zack Zack Snyder bros that are like hidden within that,
• 1:26:19
  and they're a bunch of fucking weird-ass incels. They're like, man, Zack Snyder would
• 1:26:23
  never have done this, James Gunn needs to be fired. As if the fucking Zack
• 1:26:28
  Snyder run of movies were the fucking greatest thing. Most of them were dog shit.
• 1:26:31
  I liked Man of Steel, I tolerated Batman v Superman.
• 1:26:36
  I will say Zack Snyder's cut, 4.5-hour cut of Justice
• 1:26:39
  League, I really, really, really like. How are you gonna say Zack Snyder's cut
• 1:26:43
  when The Snyder Cut is a zeitgeist thing. It is a zeitgeist thing.
• 1:26:47
  Sorry, the Snyder Cut I actually really did like, but outside
• 1:26:51
  of that, the majority of the DC run was not very good,
• 1:26:55
  and it was ushered in by Zack Snyder.
• 1:26:58
  Hold on, let Cody cook. They're so mad at me for cutting you
• 1:27:02
  off about your team. See, you're wrong. I'm fucking right.
• 1:27:06
  The worst thing in the world is these fucking DC fanboys that are like,
• 1:27:09
  they're ruining Hal Jordan! They're ruining Green
• 1:27:13
  Lantern! Why aren't they more green? Why aren't they flying more?
• 1:27:17
  Shut the fuck up, you fucking babies! Do you have any
• 1:27:21
  idea? And we were talking about this before the show. We were like, it looks
• 1:27:23
  like they're trying to set up the parallax thing, but honestly, they can't set up
• 1:27:26
  the parallax thing. Why? It would take 10 fucking years of storytelling to do!
• 1:27:29
  10 fucking years! We're gonna be lucky if we get another season of this,
• 1:27:32
  you dumb fucks! Anyways, this show was incredible. I loved
• 1:27:36
  it. I can't wait to see where it's going in the future. My only complaint
• 1:27:39
  is I'm scared we're not gonna get more Hal Jordan because Hal Jordan,
• 1:27:43
  spoiler alert, is dead right now. Have you seen The Watchmen?
• 1:27:47
  The TV show Watchmen? Yes, it was a very— it was also Lindelof who did
• 1:27:51
  that too on HBO. It was great. It was great stuff. Great stuff. No,
• 1:27:54
  we, we might not get Hal. Um, I want to actually talk about the show
• 1:27:58
  and not just that. Um, let's talk about the fact that number
• 1:28:01
  one, one of our viewer suggestions Said Matt Rhule being canon
• 1:28:06
  in the DCEU. Yeah, dude, isn't this a problem?
• 1:28:09
  Dude's fucking recruiting Manhunters and he still can't win
• 1:28:13
  the Big Ten. When I ever— when they shot to Matt
• 1:28:17
  Rhule in the crowd and it was actually Matt Rhule, I was like, no fucking
• 1:28:19
  way. So now Matt Rhule is DC,
• 1:28:22
  failed Carolina Panthers head coach and iconic apparently Nebraska
• 1:28:27
  baby. DC canon. He is going to be coaching Noah the Manhunter. The, uh,
• 1:28:30
  the, uh, delightful, sweet-hearted Manhunter.
• 1:28:34
  Yes, who doesn't want to kill. God, I love that story. Um, very sweet boy.
• 1:28:37
  Um, so Matt Ruhle's canon, guys.
• 1:28:41
  That is crazy. The least cool motherfucker I could possibly think of.
• 1:28:45
  Like, you could have put anybody in there, but it was Nebraska. You had to
• 1:28:48
  do it. Yeah, I get it. The Huskers. Um, let's talk
• 1:28:52
  about— I want to talk about, um,
• 1:28:56
  The ending. I think if this is gonna be spoiler alert in
• 1:29:00
  case anybody hasn't watched it, yes, I think that
• 1:29:03
  we have a lot of thoughts about like, we can, we can talk all we
• 1:29:06
  want about where the show is going or whatever, but let's deal with the show
• 1:29:08
  on its merits. Let's not talk about fucking DC, you know,
• 1:29:12
  nerds. Let's talk about the show we were given, how we feel about
• 1:29:15
  it. Um, I thought that the final scene between
• 1:29:21
  Jon Stewart and the hologram was really
• 1:29:25
  an exceptional example of
• 1:29:29
  how you can create moments out
• 1:29:34
  of something that's like really small in a situation where we would imagine huge set
• 1:29:37
  pieces and these like big, fine, like grand finales.
• 1:29:41
  Those moments between the two of them were like,
• 1:29:44
  it was like everything we ever wanted to possibly see from
• 1:29:47
  Jon and Hal that we didn't know we were gonna get. And I love that.
• 1:29:51
  I love what— but they did it believably. They didn't fan service us.
• 1:29:54
  It was the right way to do it. That's how I felt about that final
• 1:29:58
  scene. How did you feel about the final interaction between John? I legitimately cried.
• 1:30:02
  Me too. I, I had tears. We're both crying. Um, I, I gotta say,
• 1:30:05
  man, that, that final interaction was just perfect. And if it's how it
• 1:30:09
  ends, it's a great ending. Um, I don't want it to
• 1:30:12
  end because Kyle Chandler is so good. Aaron Pierre is so good in
• 1:30:16
  this. I'm really excited where it's going. It's just story-wise,
• 1:30:20
  I thought it was interesting choices that they made. By the way, the fans were
• 1:30:24
  like, this would never happen. Dipshits, all of this has
• 1:30:27
  actually happened in the comics. Exactly what Jon Stewart is doing right
• 1:30:31
  now, he's like, but he would be— he's a soldier. Did you pay attention
• 1:30:35
  to the story at all? This is the other thing about DC fanboys and girls
• 1:30:39
  that I don't get. Have any of you guys seen Marvel movies?
• 1:30:42
  Um, Tony Stark has never once said
• 1:30:45
  before that movie that he was Iron Man. That was just for the movie.
• 1:30:49
  That was like breaking away from Marvel Comics entirely.
• 1:30:53
  Um, the Guardians of the Galaxy movie couldn't have been less canon
• 1:30:57
  to the Marvel Comics if you tried. Now Marvel
• 1:31:00
  Comics has retroactively turned the Guardians of the Galaxy into what James Gunn
• 1:31:04
  created. Like, it's just fucking madness. Like, these stories
• 1:31:08
  that need to be interpreted and interpreted for a modern-day audience. And the
• 1:31:12
  story they wanted to tell was this, and it was a phenomenal story. It was
• 1:31:14
  a great buddy cop story. It was a great detective story. It was,
• 1:31:19
  it was just really, really, really great. It was a great character
• 1:31:23
  story. And that's the thing about these, these comics that I think people really get—
• 1:31:26
  we didn't see enough space travel. You got character,
• 1:31:30
  which is what these stories actually are. If you want space travel
• 1:31:33
  and you don't want to see an adaptation that is grounded in a Western,
• 1:31:36
  then just don't watch Lanterns. Yeah, like, I don't watch the Green Lantern starring
• 1:31:39
  Ryan Reynolds and have fun with that, I guess. Why does everybody act
• 1:31:44
  like an adaptation has to be fan service
• 1:31:48
  to them when the whole thing is that it's supposed to be different from
• 1:31:52
  comic books? If it was going to mirror what comic books did, then just
• 1:31:55
  read comic books. It is meant to expand
• 1:31:59
  the universe into a different place you have not experienced. If you don't want to
• 1:32:03
  experience Literally no one is fucking waterboarding you to make you fucking do it.
• 1:32:07
  You don't have to. If you don't want to watch a, like, beautifully shot,
• 1:32:11
  beautifully acted Western about a fucking superhero,
• 1:32:14
  don't. Don't.
• 1:32:18
  That— you are not under duress. The only
• 1:32:21
  thing that's been established into your canon is like a couple— is
• 1:32:25
  a fucking oath and like a couple of other— like,
• 1:32:29
  this has not changed your world. By the way, everything will be fine. And I
• 1:32:32
  would like to talk about the fucking oath, because I think
• 1:32:36
  that that oath in that moment was actually so beautiful.
• 1:32:41
  I think that it— the way that
• 1:32:44
  they did it was they told John's relationship to the ring and
• 1:32:48
  to arriving at embracing the ring and wanting the ring, and his relationship to
• 1:32:52
  the fucking, like, taking— like, becoming a— essentially
• 1:32:56
  becoming a Lantern on his own, like deciding, I am a Lantern because I,
• 1:32:59
  like, whatever. All of it is in that oath. It's an homage to
• 1:33:03
  the original, obviously, the actual oath. But then it's also a
• 1:33:07
  story about his, like, his journey there, his,
• 1:33:10
  his, you know, where his Blackness
• 1:33:15
  and his identity has fallen in this whole journey and all those ways that he
• 1:33:19
  has dealt with that, his relationship with Hal.
• 1:33:22
  In brightest day and darkest night, I'll embrace my fear.
• 1:33:25
  I'll do what's right. I choose this ring. I choose this fight
• 1:33:29
  in service to this lantern's light. That is everything.
• 1:33:34
  That's perfect. It could not have been written more perfectly. It could not have
• 1:33:37
  told who he is more perfectly. And the
• 1:33:41
  I'll embrace my fear ties in a lot to the
• 1:33:45
  Yellow Lantern stuff, to what's eventually probably going to happen in this
• 1:33:49
  show down the road with Sinestro. Like, this is a fucking
• 1:33:52
  perfect oath. Get a grip.
• 1:33:56
  By the way, those of you that are DC fanboys and girls are complaining,
• 1:34:00
  how dare he change the oath? Motherfucker, you've never read a— you've never read a
• 1:34:03
  fucking Green Lantern comic. No, they have. No, they clearly haven't because they
• 1:34:06
  have so many different oaths throughout the canon. Because it's not the,
• 1:34:10
  the oath that John Stewart took in the comics. That's what they mean.
• 1:34:14
  Okay, so here's the thing, John Stewart— stupid. And again, I don't care. John Stewart
• 1:34:18
  has been a renegade Lantern many, many times in the comics. Need the fucking— I'm
• 1:34:21
  not going to, but my point is this: the character arc of this story
• 1:34:25
  was about a guy who only took orders, waited for orders,
• 1:34:29
  and then finally we see in the show— and which you see in the show,
• 1:34:32
  this is the story arc— a guy that is just waiting for his orders and
• 1:34:35
  only taking his orders and handling his orders. As the story goes on, the one
• 1:34:38
  thing he did learn from Hal, even though he lost respect for Hal throughout the
• 1:34:41
  process, was that Hal was not taking orders anymore. He really was a renegade,
• 1:34:44
  but had reasons being it. And John got just
• 1:34:48
  just as jaded through the process as Hal kind of was. And at the very
• 1:34:50
  end, how John coming, coming full circle in that beautiful moment
• 1:34:54
  with Hal where he learns that he doesn't need to take orders, he is his
• 1:34:57
  own man. There was a moment in that episode where he's driving in the car
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  where he wanted the hologram to come back. He's like, I really— Hal, are you
• 1:35:03
  there? And he didn't show up. He's like, I really need you right now,
• 1:35:05
  man, I really do. And then John goes and takes care of it and makes
• 1:35:08
  his own decision. At the very end, the hologram does show up. He's like,
• 1:35:11
  I was here. He just didn't need him. It was all about him being
• 1:35:14
  his own man, no longer being a product of his parents,
• 1:35:18
  no longer being a product of the fucking Guardians, no longer even being a product
• 1:35:21
  of Hal. Being him fucking self and fucking owning
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  it. And it was fucking perfect. It was perfect. I wouldn't
• 1:35:29
  have changed a goddamn thing. The only thing I would have liked to have seen—
• 1:35:31
  sure, would I have liked to have seen him in the Green Lantern costume?
• 1:35:35
  Sure. Am I mad about it? No. Man of Tomorrow comes out in like
• 1:35:38
  fucking 8 months. I'll see it then. It would— in the amount of time they
• 1:35:42
  had, that would have been so weird. When would we have seen it? Like,
• 1:35:44
  that would have robbed us of like us ending on him becoming the Lamb.
• 1:35:49
  It was cool. End on it. So we can't, you know, we can't put it
• 1:35:52
  in there. Um, but my one critique I will say
• 1:35:56
  is that I do think— I,
• 1:35:59
  I love the arc of Noah. I do
• 1:36:04
  think that that was the weakest acting performance. He was the weakest acting performance.
• 1:36:06
  And And that's a little rough considering, like you said, there was
• 1:36:10
  some heartbreaking stuff there. He asks Jon Stewart— I did
• 1:36:13
  like his final scene. I did like his final scene. I mean, it was like,
• 1:36:16
  like a really heartbreaking, like, whole thing
• 1:36:20
  that he was dealing with. And then we get to see what— what I love
• 1:36:23
  is that we get to see what Jon deciding to
• 1:36:28
  risk, you know, sparing Noah's life, what that gives him,
• 1:36:32
  right? Like, we see him put on the Nebraska hat and that like we,
• 1:36:35
  we believe that this kid is somebody who's going to fight his programming and
• 1:36:39
  going to be a better person and going to be the person that he wants
• 1:36:43
  to be. Um, who knows if he'll ever come back into
• 1:36:47
  the fold in this particular avenue, in this area, in this canon.
• 1:36:50
  But like, I just, I think that
• 1:36:54
  considering how many like incredible young performance performers
• 1:36:58
  I've seen across television like recently, it really lacking for me.
• 1:37:02
  It was— but the character himself was great, was great.
• 1:37:05
  And there were moments where I think he, he stepped up a little bit.
• 1:37:08
  I— it's hard when you're acting with a bunch of fucking monsters,
• 1:37:11
  man. I will tell you, Aaron Pierre was great. And like, then you've got fucking
• 1:37:15
  like just like a murderer's row of like
• 1:37:19
  just— it was great actors acting. So, but I do think the scene
• 1:37:23
  he needed to hit was the car scene, and he did. I thought it was
• 1:37:26
  good. I actually don't Agree. Okay, I thought, I thought he did a good— I
• 1:37:29
  think, I think what saved it, and what, and what you're attaching yourself to,
• 1:37:32
  which is what I attach myself to, was the, like,
• 1:37:35
  the writing of that moment and, like, the timing of it and the way that
• 1:37:39
  they shot it. Acting-wise, like, I just, I do think it was a little
• 1:37:43
  flat. He was, um, and I— but I
• 1:37:46
  also see a ton of potential in the kid, to be quite honest. Like,
• 1:37:48
  I don't see somebody who's, like, doesn't have potential. I just— it's really hard to
• 1:37:52
  watch a bunch of people act their asses off and then And then someone's just
• 1:37:56
  like, not right there, not wrong. But man, this, this show was just great.
• 1:37:59
  And then John's final decision and, uh,
• 1:38:02
  just the, um, man, the thing that the hologram said to him at the end.
• 1:38:06
  Because the hologram— okay, I'm sure you caught this plenty of times— the
• 1:38:10
  hologram only referred to John as trainee, never called him junior.
• 1:38:13
  Not one time did the hologram call him junior until the very
• 1:38:17
  last line. Yeah, man, that hit. Which makes you wonder
• 1:38:20
  How do you know to call him that? Makes you wonder, doesn't it? It makes
• 1:38:24
  you wonder. And just saying, as much as they keep saying Hal's dead, there is
• 1:38:28
  precedent. They said it in the episode. There's precedent to bring him back. There's precedent.
• 1:38:33
  It's there. Well, Cody, do it, James Gunn.
• 1:38:37
  I gotta be honest, this is a good show. We went long, but we're— of
• 1:38:40
  course, we had NFL and Lanterns. What were we supposed to do? I'm really thrilled
• 1:38:43
  that everyone was not happy with you shutting me down. Oh, let him cook.
• 1:38:46
  Not only that, they were like, they're like, Come on, let him get like weird
• 1:38:49
  with it. And I'm like, I don't think you guys understand, I did this for
• 1:38:52
  25 minutes before the show started. Like, this will go rogue and we have a—
• 1:38:56
  I'm not trying to like shut down his creativity. We literally
• 1:38:59
  have a time limit for the show. It's not— I love— we
• 1:39:03
  just need to decide. Shutting me down. This is bullshit. She's shutting me down.
• 1:39:06
  All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Listen. Yes? What are
• 1:39:10
  the last 3 words that I ever said?
• 1:39:15
  Fuck you, Kurt Schilling. That's— fuck you, Kurt Schilling. That's 4.
• 1:39:19
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