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S5 E4: Charlie Brown · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease. You can see your breath.
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  Speaker 2: Out in the.
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  Speaker 1: Look Effect Breaking Tables, Kitoolgy, Where's would you have to be?
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  Speaker 3: And to Ron Elvis in the Ley, Panchow.
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  Speaker 2: Remembers that you need to know. Won't you out here?
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  Speaker 1: Now? Your family?
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  Speaker 2: Where's would you have be?
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  Speaker 3: Where's would you.
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  Speaker 2: Have to be?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at nicol City Crew. This episode,
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  Speaker 1: along with all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen
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  Speaker 1: Legacy Entertainment here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so
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  Speaker 1: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Bills and NFL content again today, and as always, these
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  Speaker 1: are my Bill's thoughts set out loud.
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  Speaker 3: It's an so ridiculous, two story, sad thing was six shown?
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  Speaker 1: Where's would you like to be? All right, let's get
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  Speaker 1: straight to it. Who What a week we have had
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  Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia. It's funny because I was literally getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for work and I was going in a little late
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  Speaker 1: and DT, my co host, text messaged me and said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hey, you know what I mean? Look at
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  Speaker 1: what Brandon Bean had to say on Jeremy and Joe
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  Speaker 1: on the w w G or Excuse Me Morning Show,
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  Speaker 1: and I quickly went to Twitter and found out that
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  Speaker 1: everyone was freaking out across the entire mafia, and obviously
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  Speaker 1: Twitter is not the entire mafia, but the Twitter mafia
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  Speaker 1: was freaking out, Instagram was freaking out, and Bill's Mafia
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  Speaker 1: was in a tizzy to discuss that, and obviously the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five NFL Draft in the selections after Max Harrison,
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  Speaker 1: which we did that episode last week, joining me tonight,
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  Speaker 1: my co host as always riding shotgun Adam Dump Truck
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  Speaker 1: Repsick at the Crew. You can check them out on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter at Adam Repsick, are you peat c
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  Speaker 1: Zyk Halla at the Crew, DT, What's good?
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  Speaker 4: You know, Nicol City, What's Up? Got a great show tonight?
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  Speaker 4: Hope everyone had a great week. Feel good Friday, Rob,
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  Speaker 4: what's up Baby? We're back? And he keeps us entertained,
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  Speaker 4: keeps us entertained and the dead season. The draft obviously
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  Speaker 4: always hypes that up, but you know, obviously this week
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  Speaker 4: was a little a little hotter when on that front too,
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  Speaker 4: so pumped up to get into it tonight kind of
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  Speaker 4: evaluate the draft and obviously talked to Drama that we
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  Speaker 4: we just went through. But good to be here as always,
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  Speaker 4: feel good Friday, Nicol City Crew, Rob, that's rock.
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  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm ready man, Tgifico City Crew, Bill's Mafia. We
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  Speaker 1: love you guys. Now. It's funny because I say Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I told you DT a little about you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months ago that I was starting to
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  Speaker 1: like enjoy it last season. At the end of the
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  Speaker 1: season four, I was like, man, I'm starting to enjoy
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  Speaker 1: boxing and sparring. And then that's how I met our
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  Speaker 1: guest who is now a friend of the show. Check
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  Speaker 1: him out on Instagram and Twitter. That's where I met
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  Speaker 1: him at Scott M Fry that's f r e y. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: this dude saw me crashing out because DT by by
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  Speaker 1: Monday night there was a space that was opening. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Lee, Shawn and shout out to Whittle. Those
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  Speaker 1: guys run a great space and they always give you know,
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  Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia and the fans on Twitter a voice and
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to speak what they feel. Scott, I am
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  Speaker 1: not embarrassed, but Scott witness to me crashing out all
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  Speaker 1: the way. I must have been on there for two hours.
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  Speaker 1: I was getting tired, and I was still I felt
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  Speaker 1: like Neo in the mat. I felt like Neo. I
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  Speaker 1: was fighting every mister Smith that came out from behind
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  Speaker 1: the actual Wallsman, I was. I was crashing out. Scott
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  Speaker 1: Scott got a chance to witness that. How at the crew? Scott?
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  Speaker 1: What's good Man? Welcome back?
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  Speaker 3: That's going on?
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  Speaker 5: Nico Man, great to be here again. It's been a
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  Speaker 5: hot minute and what a week?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Who's what?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: Off season? Man? Something else?
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  Speaker 5: Man?
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  Speaker 3: And I appreciate your energy.
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  Speaker 5: You probably need to amp it up a little bit, right,
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  Speaker 5: it seems a little Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Yeah. For those that
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  Speaker 1: did listen that are part of the crew, Yes I did.
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  Speaker 1: I did crash out on Monday night. So what was
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  Speaker 1: that crashing out about? If? Unless you have been under
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  Speaker 1: a rock, which I said a couple of times this season,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you wouldn't know. But our general
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  Speaker 1: manager was on his little tour and making his roundabouts
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  Speaker 1: after the twenty twenty five NFL Draft completed, and he
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  Speaker 1: went on the Jeremy White and Joe Show, The Jeremy
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  Speaker 1: and Joe Dbse the one on the WGR show. And
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  Speaker 1: what happened was really I had to listen back to it.
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  Speaker 1: I know the DT said that he listened to it.
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  Speaker 1: How did you guys receive it in respects to how
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  Speaker 1: did you hear about it? And stuff like that, because
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  Speaker 1: for my from my perspective, DT told me about it.
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  Speaker 1: So I listened, and I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: let me gain full perspective and know exactly what why
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  Speaker 1: he came off the top rope like macho man, Randy Savage.
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  Speaker 1: So I listened to the end of I listened to
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  Speaker 1: the south Capaccio segment, and I guess that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the impetus and kind of where it started DT. Where
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  Speaker 1: it started Scott was that, you know, Jeremy and Joe
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  Speaker 1: were talking about Jeremy to ask him, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: why don't you, you know, why don't you choose to
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  Speaker 1: invest in the wide receiver position a little bit more,
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  Speaker 1: you know urgently that type of thing in respects to
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  Speaker 1: the draft and things like that. And Brandon Bean went
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  Speaker 1: off the top rope for real, like literally Haulkkan had
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  Speaker 1: just told him, like, what are you guys talking about?
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  Speaker 1: He called it the dumbest argument I've ever heard, and
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  Speaker 1: noted that he had drafted Josh Allen, which we know
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  Speaker 1: that's a feather in his cap. He noted that they
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  Speaker 1: have scored thirty points a game. I saw some cool
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  Speaker 1: stuff on Twitter this week about hanging banners for thirty
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  Speaker 1: points a game, which we do not do, and he
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  Speaker 1: let him know that he is a strong proponent of
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  Speaker 1: everybody eats DT. How did it hit you? I know
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  Speaker 1: that you listened to it all as well for full context.
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  Speaker 1: How did it hit you? What? What did you think
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  Speaker 1: about it before I give my thoughts at the end.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I got it live, which was kind of cool.
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  Speaker 4: You know this is that I hope you know nobody
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  Speaker 4: higher up is listening to this currently. But something after
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  Speaker 4: what I'd like to do on Monday, especially during football season. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: this happens pretty much every Monday, but you know, little
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  Speaker 4: groggy getting off the weekend, getting into Monday, and so
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  Speaker 4: I kind of get get out, get my original, get
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  Speaker 4: stuff done, and then I go and my get out
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  Speaker 4: around eight eight thirty is, hey, I'm gonna go pick
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  Speaker 4: up coffee for everybody, and nobody is complains about that.
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  Speaker 2: Of course I head out.
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  Speaker 4: I get coffee and then I it usually happens pretty quick.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I get a breakfast sandwich or whatever, and I
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  Speaker 4: just sit in the OTB next door to the Tim
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  Speaker 4: Hortons near my office, okay, and I just kind of
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  Speaker 4: days out and just get into the Monday for a
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  Speaker 4: little while. And it's a nice little routine. And this
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  Speaker 4: happened and as during kind of my days out. And
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  Speaker 4: at this point, I mean, GR is just on the
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  Speaker 4: car all the time. I'm not, you know, love it
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  Speaker 4: or hate it. It just kind of if you I'm
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  Speaker 4: not listening to my music, it's it's gr obviously, like yeah, yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 4: just some white noise. Not really thinking much of it.
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  Speaker 4: They say, Brandon Bean's coming on, wanted to get you know, okay,
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  Speaker 4: let's see what he thinks about the draft, so on
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  Speaker 4: and so forth. And he came on just swinging right
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  Speaker 4: out of the gate, just you know, like preface the swing,
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  Speaker 4: like said, you talked about the twenty eighteen draft and
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  Speaker 4: like all you're good for is bitching you know everything.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. I'm a big I'm.
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  Speaker 4: A very you know, big critique of w GR that
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of a soft network through and through I
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  Speaker 4: think the hosts are all, you know.
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  Speaker 2: We're all kind of whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And then when the bills got good, they they acted
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  Speaker 4: like they got good with the bills and and kind
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  Speaker 4: of act a little pompous times to you know, to
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  Speaker 4: the exterior world and callers and whatnot. And I don't
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  Speaker 4: think they do anything really controversial, I don't, you know,
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  Speaker 4: So overall, I think it's a pretty soft network. And
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  Speaker 4: this was I like because it kind of pumped it
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  Speaker 4: up a little and brought it to that sports talk
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  Speaker 4: you know level, that radio that Mike Francesa, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: mad Dog, you know, Stephen A and Steven As on TV.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what I mean type of entertainment purpose
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  Speaker 4: where you know, there's a there's a back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get into the actual breakdown of what side we
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  Speaker 4: lay on tonight of this.
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  Speaker 2: But I like the energy.
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  Speaker 4: I like, you know, I like Brandon Bean having having
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  Speaker 4: his own back on his draft. I think I don't
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  Speaker 4: want a general manager question is his draft going into
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  Speaker 4: the Monday you know, Monday recap. So I like him
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  Speaker 4: having the confidence of it. I think Jeremy and Joe
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  Speaker 4: were definitely caught off guard. They did not know that
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  Speaker 4: this dude was about so. So I wasn't too critical
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  Speaker 4: of how they handled it in the beginning. I was,
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  Speaker 4: but like you you get your job is to keep
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  Speaker 4: this guy's job that you don't do. That's your job, right, correct,
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  Speaker 4: And you you finally get this guy in your house
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  Speaker 4: kind of puffing out his chest and you know, in
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  Speaker 4: the words they use, belittling you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was that, but.
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  Speaker 3: It was belittling you.
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  Speaker 4: And it was just kind of like, oh, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I guess like you know, and they didn't
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  Speaker 4: they did they weren't ready for it. So I can't
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  Speaker 4: really I can't really be too critical of them there.
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  Speaker 4: But I loved it. I love the energy. I think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's what sports radio needs. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: a it's tension that in the mafia, everybody knows this
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  Speaker 4: kind of argument back and forth, and this kind of
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  Speaker 4: just made it reality that like what everyone's kind of
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  Speaker 4: thinking and talking about, and like you said, behind the
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  Speaker 4: scenes on Twitter or whatever, it came to the forefront
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  Speaker 4: at the highest level, got a lot of media attention
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  Speaker 4: all week.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it hurts us by any means.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, but you know, we'll get into the nitty gritty
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  Speaker 4: of the actual context of it as we go. But
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  Speaker 4: I liked it. It kind of caught me off guard,
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  Speaker 4: just as everybody. It was a good way to start
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  Speaker 4: the Monday. I like the fire.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny that you said that you know about
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, because I think that that's really true, Scott,
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  Speaker 1: because you know me on Twitter and you know that
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  Speaker 1: I have been behind the scenes on the wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: train and fighting people different things like that throughout my experiences,
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  Speaker 1: most recently when Everybody Eats got introduced. How did how
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  Speaker 1: did it take you? How did you consume it on Monday?
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  Speaker 1: How'd you hear about it? Because again, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: DT told me about it, I was I was getting
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  Speaker 1: ready for work. I didn't even know that it was
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  Speaker 1: going on, and I was maybe about twenty to thirty
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  Speaker 1: minutes late in respects to like the whole cycle of it.
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  Speaker 1: And then I, like I said, I went back on
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  Speaker 1: the Odyssey app I listened to the to Salcapaci because
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to hear what started it, and then I
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  Speaker 1: went from there and caught back up with everybody. But
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  Speaker 1: how did it? How did it land for you on Monday?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm a. I like listening to WGR. I
• 10:56
  Speaker 5: don't live in the Buffalo area. I'm not Western New
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  Speaker 5: York anymore. I grew up there, but I'm in western Ohio, right,
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  Speaker 5: and so I catch it on the Odyssey app right,
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  Speaker 5: and I heard it live and I about drove off
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  Speaker 5: the road when Bean came out because Jeremy and Joe
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  Speaker 5: didn't ask any questions. Nope, no, mean came right out
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  Speaker 5: and said, you know, you guys are bitching just like
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  Speaker 5: you did in twenty eighteen, and kind of ripped him
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  Speaker 5: on the rosen thing, you know, And I thought that
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  Speaker 5: was At first, I thought that was just a little
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  Speaker 5: fun pope poke, you know, at Jeremy or whatever he was.
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  Speaker 3: And then he doubled down on the wide receiver thing.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, my take on that was, I think
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  Speaker 5: Brandon missed the context. Like they do talk a lot
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  Speaker 5: about it, and it's no secret Jeremy's all about getting
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  Speaker 5: that wide receiver, you know, give Josh all the tools
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  Speaker 5: and he's a proponent of that. But I thought Brandon
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  Speaker 5: came in just hotter than context required. But I liked it,
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  Speaker 5: you know, because normally he's I just want to mess
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  Speaker 5: his air up. Sometimes you know, because he's just always
• 11:47
  Speaker 5: put together. He speaks very well, speaks very highly of everybody. Boy,
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  Speaker 5: and I felt like we got a little like pull
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  Speaker 5: the curtain back a little bit on what's cooking in there.
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  Speaker 5: And I know, I love to know that my GM's
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  Speaker 5: got some fire in his So I don't think he
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  Speaker 5: personally belittled anyone. I know, he dropped the thing.
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  Speaker 1: About they were talking about, Yeah, that's all they're talking about. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't that's a that's like saying, oh, the Bill,
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  Speaker 1: like the Bills can't score fifty points again, Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we we fucking know that they're not gonna score I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think Jeremy and Joe need to take that
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  Speaker 5: terribly personally. But I can't imagine it felt great live
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  Speaker 5: on the air coming at you and you're like, ship,
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  Speaker 5: this is a GM of an NFL franchise, Like what
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  Speaker 5: do I do?
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  Speaker 1: You got it?
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  Speaker 5: I'm like Rob or Adam, I'm sorry. I thought they
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  Speaker 5: did a nice job of handling it. You could tell,
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  Speaker 5: like dB As when you look at the YouTube clip,
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: he was like yeah, you like he's like, you know,
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: he's like hearing a kid when you like were getting
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: yelled at or like yeah, and uh, I remember in
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: a basketball game, I committed a horrendous turnover, horrendous turnover,
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  Speaker 5: and my like, we call time out and my coach
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  Speaker 5: just buries me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, just you can.
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  Speaker 4: Your blood pressure like trying to agreed just so it
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  Speaker 4: gets over.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what was doing.
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  Speaker 3: Just like, Yeah, I enjoyed w g R.
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  Speaker 5: And it's funny because you know, half the people on
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  Speaker 5: Twitter think they're there are two pro bills and the
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  Speaker 5: other half think they're the opposite, and you know, so
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  Speaker 5: you welcome to the internet, right, But I just I
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  Speaker 5: don't think there's any need for them to take that personally.
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  Speaker 5: I thought it was an awesome moment. And again I
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: like that, uh you know what they say, big baller
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  Speaker 5: beans swinging and you just take that anyway, you like. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: So you know, I kind of I think it was
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  Speaker 5: cool where he came from, but I think he was
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  Speaker 5: a little out of context. I don't think it's as
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  Speaker 5: bad as he was making it out to be. But
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  Speaker 5: it made for awesome radio, and it was cool that
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: Jerry and Joe caught some national media attention.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody was watching Jeremy's.
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  Speaker 1: Name, that's right, did that and then it just kind
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  Speaker 1: of caught fire because the entire segment Jerry.
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  Speaker 3: The offia a little bit, you know.
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  Speaker 5: So oh yeah, and then we turn around and what
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  Speaker 5: two days later, mm hmm, we signed Elijah Moore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like listen, I was. I was. I was
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  Speaker 1: definitely taken aback by the fact that he was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, cussing and calling, saying that their bitch and
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. I thought that Josh Allen thing was
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: was definitely a you know, a puffing out my chest.
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  Speaker 1: I'm letting you know that I've got your franchise quarterback
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  Speaker 1: that you all love and then have highlights of and
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  Speaker 1: by Madden covers and stuff like that. So I get
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  Speaker 1: where he was coming from in respects to that. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that he was definitely a little bit aggressive in
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  Speaker 1: respects to after I listened to Sal Capachia. So he
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  Speaker 1: he's the one that referenced that I was listening to
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: you guys while I was waiting. So what he was
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  Speaker 1: listening to was the end of the conversation with Capaccio,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't really say anything other than they just
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: asked Sal and he said, I'm gonna ask Brandon, you
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  Speaker 1: know why why doesn't he invest in now? When this
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  Speaker 1: was something that was on Twitter that I could get
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: into arguments with. Was because of the fact that when
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: we say the word and us as members of the
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: wide receiver train, and I'm talking about myself, I'm not
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: speaking for you guys, because I'm definitely firmly on that train.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about it for percentages. I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 1: best opportunities. So a guy that's drafted in the seventh
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  Speaker 1: round that we'll talk about later, is not the same
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  Speaker 1: to me as somebody that's drafted in the third or
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  Speaker 1: fourth round. The reason being because no, of course, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know if the seventh round is going to be
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  Speaker 1: as good. That's Christian Benfer. That's a wonderful story. He
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: beats out Kyrie Elum the first round pick. That's what
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  Speaker 1: football is. Football is a meritocracy. You go out there
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  Speaker 1: and you earn it. I was simply talking about what
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: are your best possibilities, what are your best odds, your
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: best odds, and your best chances. How to draft those
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: guys earlier because they have the traits or whatever the
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: case may be. So I was a little bit caught
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: off guard because of the fact that I didn't expect
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: it to come and start that way. But then when
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I got into it, I was like, you know what,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I think Brandon missed the point because of the fact
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: that I think even people from the Wide Receiver train
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: they're on the train would be and they're coming down
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: the aisles with the carts and they're passing out cookies
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: and shit. We all knew that it was going to
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: be a defensive draft. I knew that. We talked about
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: that DT on our pre draft you know review We
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: talked about, like, listen, it's going to be a defensive draft,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: and what did you and I say, DT. At the
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: end of the show, we just want a weapon. Just
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: give Josh more weapons. Now, Scott alluded to it that
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Brandon being kind of covers up for that by getting
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Elijah Moore a couple of days later. I think it was, yeah,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of days later. Like you said, we found
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: out right after that interview that Elijah was in town
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: or the meeting, So I feel like Brandon already knew
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: that Elijah was coming in town. They hadn't had anything
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: worked out, and he just got a chance to just
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: sit back and puff his chest and had a little
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: bit of Rick Cross energy. DT. That's what I think
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that it was. He knew Elijah was coming in town.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: And then he actually revealed the other day that he
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: told Elijah and is camp, listen, we're gonna put a
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: pin in it right now. We're going to see how
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the draft goes, and then we'll circle back and see
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: if you're still interested after the draft. Let's see how
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: it goes. That right there tells you that they wanted
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver if the board, if the board fell.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: So to me, it's a little bit disingenuous, because again
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I can't stand everybody eats. So that means that the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: GM when he traded for Cooper last year, that was
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: like you you're telling me that you know that this
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: shit ain't working. It's kind of the same thing with eligible.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: You need somebody else, regardless of you got him in
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the draft or.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Not sure because I mean him.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Kind of his point in the call of hey, this
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: is you know, this is my like this receiver room
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: is a lot better than last year's receiver room.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Like how can you not see that? It's like, well,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: like what do you mean?
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Like Josh Palmer like we don't know anything about this guy,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Like is it that much better?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we paid some dudes.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: And yeah, we expect there's some progression with the guys
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: we have, but like, I mean there's it's not like
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: there's some brand name that makes it like, oh yeah,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: it's easily it's better. But I see it both ways,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: just a human aspect of it. I mean, I've done
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: this like and I need to get better at it,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: and I felt bad every time I did this this week,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: But like you get like overwhelmed and shit's everywhere and
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: somebody calls you and you just kind of like take
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: it out on him, you know, And it's not that
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: like it's their fault. The situation I think Monday was
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: the Draft has got to be the busiest weekend of
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Brandon beans year.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: You know, yes he's on.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: It all the time, but during the season he's not
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: like coaching practice or doing anything like that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: So the draft has to be his busiest weeks.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Literally, it's Super Bowl and he goes in there probably
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: hasn't slept in four days. And to what he and
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: the organization think, they had a very solid draft. Some
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: of the guys that were very excited to get and
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: we we'll get into that on what we think about it,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: but he thinks very solid draft and kind of the
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: first thing he's hearing off of that from the fan,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: you know, because g R is an extension of the
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: fan base, I think, and that's what kind of they
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: take it as the first thing he's here, it is, well, yeah,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: maybe they're gonna be good on defense, but we don't
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: have any receivers. So I think he just kind of,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: you know, he just was like, you know what, screw it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: These guys talk shit about like not talk shit, but
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: he has a critique, critique, critique, I'm tired, we had
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: a good draft. Nobody like, nobody's gonna stop me, So
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go and kind of tear these dudes up.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And it probably felt good for him to do.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: He probably felt bad a little bit about it later
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: and he's like, eh, this attention is probably not what
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: we needed. But just a human aspect again, like to
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: kind of downplay it a little and as what Scott
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: was seeing earlier, like.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Don't take it offensive. Jeremy joh like, Jeremy Joe like whatever.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: The dude was just coming off his busiest weekend thinks
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: he had a good draft and then instantly people are
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: on him about a wide receiver and he's probably just
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: like fuck off, you know.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: And he's in the pipeline and nobody.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Is right right right that nobody knows about Yeah it's Scott.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: It's funny because he did go on you know, the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: media tour, and he goes on McAfee, and he goes
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: on different shows and stuff like that, and he obviously
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: was more measured and definitely not the same type of
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: energy because I do I think I do get his point, Scott,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in respects to the fact that, again I thought it
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: was going to be a defensive draft, so I was
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not surprised. I thought. The only surprise I had was
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: that how heavy it was. They went all the way
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: in even their one offensive guy earlier on in the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: later yes, and it was like, you know, and then
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: they get get the guy. There's a blocking guy who
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: could possibly be a replacement for Alec Anderson for those
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: big packages stuff like that. So it was a situation
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: where I was just a little bit surprised how heavy
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: they went. That's all that, you know. I I was
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: looking for that sweet spot. D T and I talked
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: about it. You heard it Scott a couple weeks ago,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like maybe third, fourth round, let's take a flyer, that
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: type of thing. But they went, they went all the way.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was his board, like you said, clearly it
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: was his board because uh, he didn't draft on until
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the seventh round.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what's interesting about this draft and I
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: don't if we're going to transition there, but you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: they're to the point where they're having to to grab
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: specific traits and characteristics like I mean, a great big
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: stud you know, wide receiver one would be fun and great,
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: but what they really need is somebody that can get open, separate,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: peel the top off the defense now and then that
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: little blast of speed is like the last real strong
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: characteristic that was missing. And with Elijah Moore, they they
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: got some of that.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't think anybody who was asking for
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: you know, Chase you know in here, you know, or
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: whatever first round type pick. You know, hey, let's figure
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: out a way to get that cat from Colorado up here.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I like that, So yeah, he would. That would have
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: been funny.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: That's why I liked it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I loved them so at any rate, all that stuff.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Aside on w g R, I thought we had a
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: pretty cool draft. And and the one dude I'm looking
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: forward to checking out is this Landon Jackson guy from Arkansas.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: He I want to see you what he's all about. Man,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: he looks kind of scary. He's another big long like
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: what's six seven six eight? You know, he's built a
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: groot and it you know, this drafts yeah, yeah, This
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: draft to me is is buffalo drafting freaks. And that
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: seems to be kind of the part of the thing
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: that Bean and McDermott is they want these freak athletic
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: guys that can do the things that work in their system.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: But if you look at all these guys aside from
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: like Hairston, to me, seems like a potential blue chip corner.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: You know, he's a he's a top end one of
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: the best cover corners in the particularly a man coverage.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: But the rest of these guys are pretty specialized with
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: what they bring. And I think that's kind of a
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: cool place to be. I just hope it works, but
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: it's a cool place to be with your roster because
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: we're not you know, you look at where New England
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: was before the off season started, and oh my gosh,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: you know, they were like a JV professional football team
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: roster wise, No, no disrespect, but you know, right now
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: they got a lot better conditions.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but we're not at that point.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: We're fine tuning. Other than filling that D line. Uh,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: we needed some talent on the D line, but beyond that,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: we're fine tuning. And that's I think that's kind of exciting.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: I just hope the guys we got can deliver in
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: the precise things we need. You know, t J Sanders
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: is a very specific type of D lineman. Uh, Deon Walker,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: same thing, Landon Jackson, same thing.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Let's let's go through cause you're absolutely right, let's go
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: through it because it's funny. I was at Nate Soccer
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: on last week DT when the draft's going on, and I'm,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you know, watching the game, and all the parents are
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: out there and I'm the one degenerate that I'm watching
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the game. But like, if he subs out of the game,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I've got the draft literally streaming on YouTube TV, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like watching and the same this picture comes up.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So then obviously the Bills go ahead and move. Now
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: they moved for TJ. Right they move for TJ, and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: they moved fordon. Okay, so when they trade up, I'm
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: texting my boys and they're like, yo, it's gotta be
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Who you think it's gov?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know what.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I'm excited as hell, and Nate had subbed out of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the game and I was just I was glued. I'm
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: not even watching the soccer at all. And then when
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it comes up t J. Sanders. I remember seeing that
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: name during our pre draft coverage DT because you know
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: me and you don't. We're not nerds, we're not draft nerds.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: We don't know all the guys. Stuff like that, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: thank you Sarah. Sarah says that we moved up fifteen
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: spots for him, and I was like, this has got
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to be a receiver and and so then you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: then everybody's flipping out and stuff like that. Now they
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: say that he's more three ten then one tech, but
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: he has some abilities to play the one tech, but
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: he's really a penetrator, kind of like Ed Oliver, who
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: we already have. So I was very interested in that. Obviously,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: that's why you have to let the draft develop, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you have to let stuff come out and flesh out
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: because of the fact that we didn't know about Dion
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a couple rounds later. So round two bills get TJ.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Sanders again. They project him to be a three tech
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: kind of a backup to Ed Oliver, but he's got
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit of one tech in him in respect
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to the fact that he's firm, but he's quick, he's twitchy,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: he's gonna try to get up the field. Then round
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: three landa Jackson, who seems to be almost universally everybody's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: favorite pick Scott. They said that this dude was supposed
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to be like he could have been early second round,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: late first round, depending on who you talk to, what
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: scouting department you talk to. As you talked about it
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: alluded to six six two sixty four. He's kind of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: cut from that cookie mold of an aj Epanessa, but
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: just more juice. They say. He plays with his hair
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: on fire. That is obviously no pun intended. I know
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that he has alopecia. He's gonna pick up on that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I got that. I'm what I'm saying is that that's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: what they say that his mot or whatever, he's got
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that hunching.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Comps like Max Crosby, that kind of that big, tall, rangy,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: super athletic d end and you know, we can only
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: hope that that's what he turns into.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but all the arts are there, man.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But it seems like a really clear for the guy
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: in the and he's had some production obviously, he had
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit less production last year Arkansas, but I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: know he started out in his career earlier his Carlo's career,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and he was really getting it after it. DT then
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: is one of the you know, let's shout out to
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Mama Monday. She's been waiting for it and waiting for
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it and talking shit to us and saying years and
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: years the years she's waiting for her one tech. The
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Bills not only get their one tech, but they get
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: one in a controversial pick. So for Nicol Citiku, who
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't know this guy was he was fire two years ago.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Last year was not as fire. What they were saying
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: about Dion Walker fourth round pick a mountain of a man,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I mean six seven, three thirty one. They were saying
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: last year that he was dealing with a back issue
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and that's why he wasn't as productive as he was
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: two years ago. Played for Kentucky along with teammates with
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Max Harriston DT. This dude is huge. They said he
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: could have been the first round or had his tape
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: backed up what he did in twenty twenty three. I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: mean they say, they say you got to steal and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I know guys like Joe Marino who can't stand they
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: said he was he was undraftable for him, Oh really yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: he said he was undraftable. Yeah, well not maybe not undrafted,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: but he said he wanted the Bills to stay clear.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: By the way, okay, well top heavy. He thought he
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: would be just what.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Sticks out for me And these four first four picks
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: is SEC, SEC, SEC, SEC we got you know, granted
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Ohio State won last year, but SEC kind of the
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: renowned football mecha of the world in college football, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: I think, well, can we'll see with NIL. But you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: studs on the in the Southern Southeastern Conference playing playing studs,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: you know, And that's what I liked out of this,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Like these guys on the defensive end are matched up
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: guys that went first, second, third round all draft, you know,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: out of the SEC and are gonna be pros and
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: are gonna be guys are gonna see on Sundays every week.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: So I like kind of seeing that SEC conglomerate of
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: guys kicked and granted most of the picks coming from
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: them anyway, but we went four to four right out
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: of the gate with that kind of going like not
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: just to keep this about wide receiver and not wide receiver,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: but you know, the first pick with the corner, Harriston
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: was obviously our guy. Like they wanted that guy because
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: every corner and every really other than the you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: the Arizona receiver, every receiver and every corner was on
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: the board at thirty and they went and they took
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: this guy. So it showed that that was their guy.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: So I'm cool with that. You go into the second
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: round the trade up, I'm with you, Rob. I initially
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, who must have been somebody nice and
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: you know, receiver wise, and they go TJ.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Sanders.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: So if they're moving up that far to get that guy,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: they're basically saying it's impossible they're gonna get them. You
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: know where they were sitting and if they wanted it,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: so big big in with that land and Jackson's turning in,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: like you said, everybody is loving this guy.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: You know, everyone's saying it's.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: The best pick we made, and and the intangibles with it,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: and he might be you know that personality trade on
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: the defensive line, that's gonna be gonna be a badass.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: And then Dion Walker my biggest thing of being kind
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: of defending it saying it would have been he would
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: have been an earlier pick. He would have been And
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: and I think a back issue being that big and
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: kind of his biggest knock when I'm looking through like
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: all the the critiques on him, is he he's too high.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You know, he's yeah, too hot. That's why said that
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't drive.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And I mean, you're six.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: If you're six seven with a back issue, it's probably
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: pretty damn hard to get to get under the get
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: under the shoot the old shoot drill if you remember,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: you know, in football, getting under there and banging your
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: head off the top and you know, and it hurting
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: for two weeks. But so I like the the they went.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: They knew, like Scott was saying earlier, they went with specimens,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Harrison's not big, but he's the fastest. Then they went,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: you know, TJ. Sanders fit the role. Then they went
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: two big dudes, big dudes. So I like kind of
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: the way they were going this year, of all the
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: way one side or the other. They were either going
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: the fastest guy or the biggest m effort there was.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: And I kind of liked, you know, laying that out
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: and seeing what happens with that. But defending against the
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: receiver pick was it seemed like this kind of all
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: no receiver really popped up to them that they were
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: in love with because all the moves they kind of
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: made would make sense or they moved up to get
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: so they were obviously focused on this route, but it
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: also seemed like they had some opportunities they weren't expecting
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: to get with LANDA.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Jackson and TJ.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Sanders, and I feel like Dean Walker in the last pick,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I don't think they thought they were going to.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Get these guys.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting because you know, Scott, it's funny because
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: as we you know, we'll go to the back of
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the draft. But that's really the meat and potatoes is
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: those four those first four picks. Excuse me. And one
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: thing that I noticed in respects to that was not
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: only just the sec thing that that DT talked about,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: but that the physical traits. They are looking for a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: certain type of player, They're looking for a certain type
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: of skill set that that fits what they do for
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: mcdermot's defense. And I thought that they definitely addressed that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And obviously I think it's the anytime you trade up,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: then you're showing conviction. I just heard on WGR on
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the way home that Brandon Bean was talking, you know
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: to my boy tied down. I love tie done, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you know he and tied down when he was promoting
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the piece on his Golong TV. He was talking about
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: how Brandon Bean's got some conviction and he's you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and I retweeted after him and I was like, yeo, man,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I like I like conviction. I don't because that way,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that way I can call you out good or bad,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Like I can give you your flowers if you need
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: your flowers, or I can say what you know, like
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? Like what were you thinking?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I want you to be convicted about your your particular takes.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And obviously this is the ultimate as your NFL GM Scott,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: what did you think about those first four picks in
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: that respect? Before we get to the back end of
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the draft and then wrap up the conversation because I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: thought that they don't care. Basically that they whoever what
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: everybody thought he thinks about Dean Walker, they don't give
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a shit. And the fact that they trade it up
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: for T. J. Sanders, they don't give a shit, Like
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: they listen, these are our guys. We feel lucky to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: have landon Jackson in the third round, like we don't.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: We don't care like this. These are the guys that
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: we think and it just It'll go back to the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: conversation that will have after me because that's what gives
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: me fired up.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I think you got four guys that are going to
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: see playing time this fall. Obviously, Harston is probably gonna
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: come right in at CB. Two Sanders. I feel like
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: they wanted to duplicate what they like about Ed Oliver
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: and I don't know if that means Sanders plays behind
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: and it's a rotation that way, or if they combine
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: the two guys. You know, and it always seems to
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: play a little better when he's got some juice around him.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: And then I feel like Jackson and Walker won't have
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the pressure of having to come in and get a
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: starting job, like because we've got meat in those you know,
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Daikwon Jones right would be the guy ahead of Dian Walker.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: So I like that work those guys in get him developed,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: get Walker healthy.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Six games for MacGuire and so.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, you.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Still got Hoyt and Okunjoby hanging out there. So I
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: feel like we really short up. Like I was really worried, like,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: man if we can't come out of there. I really
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: was bummed when Kenneth Grant went off the board and
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I had no hope he would be there. But I thought, man,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: if he's you know, within eight picks, we might be
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: able to you know, package it and get up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: In the division.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's and he's in the division.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Miami whatever.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: That was, it was a joke.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: So the back end, I feel like we're just looking
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: at development. With the exception of Hawes, I think he
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: will see time on the field.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: You know it was blocking tight end.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I think he's going to lock in at tight end
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: three and you.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Catch the football. So who knows what's going on there
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: thin you know?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard an interview with him.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Salary played his zoom call and said, hey, I would
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: love to catch some foot. They just didn't use me
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: like that at Georgia Tech, order that much at Yale
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: because I catch football, you know, and his confidence was
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: was solid. So he's gonna be fun to watch. But
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: like Chase Lunt is another one of those like h
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Spencer Brown, just like a freak huge and you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: two years from now, this could be your second right
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: tackle or one of those rotational pieces on the O line.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: And then pray there I think is like into the pool.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: You go, man, go do your thing and see if
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: you shake out.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: See if you can carve out a niche and stay
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: on the roster. Yeah.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: I think the I think the whole Elijah Moore thing,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: the more that I think about this was in the back.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Of Bean's mind.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Oh, he just didn't have to pull the trigger in
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: the draft because he had that card sitting on the
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: table under the under the mat, so to speak.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I think that that's why he acted the way that
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he acted. It was because he already knew that Elijah
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: war was on his way in town and they had
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: good talks with him prior to They just wanted to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: see him come in, make sure that his head was right,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: make sure his attitude was right. Obviously he's been on
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of teams from the Jets and then went
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to the brown So they just wanted to see how
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: he felt.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: So yeah, he had last year with the Browns and
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: he had seven quarterbackstar on Too.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: High sixty one catches shitty quarterbacks. Besides, I love Jamis,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: but Jamis will throw the ball to the.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Other team is as much as the zone.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: So he's so fun. I love him. I follow on Instagram.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I love Jacobs.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: I wish I get him into Buffalo as a backup man.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: I know the interception thing is a is a hourrific.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: It's god dang. He's good for the locker room man.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: He's just a I love it.
• 34:21
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  Speaker 1: Now as we transition fellas, I'm starting to get in
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  Speaker 1: my Twitter mode. So so here's here's here's here's what happened, DT.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Since I mean Scott has a he had a front
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: up front, got some listen listen, how listen? How did
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I end the show? I ended the show DT on
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: pre Jack? What did I say? I said, listen, are
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  Speaker 1: we sure that we want to do this? And the
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• 35:34
  Speaker 1: that I named the episode. I name the name of
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the episode the way that I did, because I I
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: am I'm tired, DT. I'm I'm tired, Scott. The reason
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: that I'm tired is every year it doesn't it doesn't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: matter and I pointed this out on Twitter. It doesn't
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: matter if McDermott has a top five to ten defense
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: like he's had for the majority of the time. He's
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a great defensive coording and I take nothing away from
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: him or last year's Last year, I think it was
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: eleven th d DVOA, but consensus was that that was
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the worst McDermott defense that he's had since he's been
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: here pretty much. It was not. It was not you know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: obviously it was other than the Jacksonville years. That's totally different.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: He was just getting his feet wet. Listen, it doesn't
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: matter Dt, It doesn't matter Scott what defense he is fielding.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: He will ship the bed. Now, people on the other
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: side will say he needs more horses, and then I say, nobody.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: He had top ten defenses. He had hiding Poyer, he
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: had Trey White at the height of his pimpen. He
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: had all these different guys and he was never getting
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it done, and they will try to push back. It
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter the defense that McDermott has, he finds a
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: way to ship the bet and am I am definitely
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: scared of running up like Charlie Brown and Lucy is
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: holding that ball as you don't pull that shit for me,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: when as soon as I get ready to kick it,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm getting ready to kick this ball, and
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I feel great and confident about the fact I'm getting
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: ready to kick this ball. I'm getting ready to beat
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and I feel confident about it. Last year,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: no one could tell me we were losing that game.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I was more nervous about the Baltimore game than I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: was about the chief game because of the way that
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Baltimore whipped our ass earlier in the year. DT speak
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to it. I don't need you to align with me,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: but I promise you I will be neo in the matrix.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I will fight every mister Smith that comes out. I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: just I don't think that he's he's I don't think
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: that he's cut for it in respects of the playoff time.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: So because of that, I always want you to support
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Josh and do everything you can for Josh. That doesn't
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: mean that you ignore the defense in a defensive draft
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that we all knew, but it does mean that I'm
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna look sideways at you because of the fact
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that do we need TJ. Sanders over another weapon? Now again,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that's before the Elijah Moore thing. I think that the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: wide receiver room is whatever, it's complete as it's gonna
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: be right now and everybody eats, so no problem. I'm
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: never buying a hat DT. I feel like Charlie Brown, man,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I do. And I know that we can't find that
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: out until January, and it's going to be forever till
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: we know the fruits of the labor. This shit, man,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I just don't have it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: You're really starting to You're really starting to hear it,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: especially this week, and you know the fact of people
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: like you saying I might be out already, and then
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: people a lot of people are saying one more.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying one more. This happens
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: one more.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Time, and it's like, all right, then you know it's
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: it's mcdermot's done. Whatever the case is, or just load
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: up on offense, just one more. I just have Really
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I am in the middle here because I agree like,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: what does it matter on the defense? And we went
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: back a couple of years ago on the point I
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: bring up all the time is when those Eagles had
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: the best defense in almost history, and then they go
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: to the play, they go to the Super Bowl and
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: it's like a forty to forty game and they don't
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: get one sack on Pat Mahomes. But then you go
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: to this year and the defense is the complete difference
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: maker of the playoffs and beat the shit out of
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs and that's the reason they won the game.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: So it's it's back and forth in that regard. I
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: just didn't see a ton of opportunity other than you know,
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: a mid round pick of like really helping out, like
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: unless we go and trade for Justin Jefferson or some
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: crazy shit like that, which highly doubtful.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Obviously.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: I just didn't see a ton of opportunity with really
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: what was out there was kind of light. It was
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: kind of yes, we could have drafted somebody, sure, but
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: I didn't see a lot of opportunity where we missed.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Out on a lot of things like why weren't we
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: on that?
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Why weren't we Like.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I didn't see like all those all those exits we missed.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: You go to, you know, something like the Cincinnati Bengals
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: last year. Granted it wasn't perfect, they had injuries whatnot,
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: but a team that said, screw defense, you know, we're
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: just gonna focus on offense. Low we gotta we got
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback. We're gonna load up on offense. See
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: what happens.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: And granted this isn't a perfect.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: It's it's not what I understand. I got hit.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I got.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: To get so far back that they can't even make
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, you know, And we would, I think we
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: would argue, say, screw the defense.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Score, We're not gonna be Allen.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: But then that goes to the exact argument of well,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: if Josh Allen is that good, well then why does
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: he need all these people?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: So so it's a it's a big circular thing.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: And as much as I agree Rob like, I'm getting
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: sick of it and and that what has he done
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: to showing us different? You know, it's the same thing
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: in the last seven years we were great. We get
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: into the big moments and there's some sort of barf
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: on us and we should ourselves and and go home
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: heartbroken and got to cry about it for a few
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: months until we're here on the on the draft talk again.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: But I just didn't see a lot of opportunities for
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: that this year. I mean, they went out and they
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: who they think?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Who? I agree? Care has been nothing but productive.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: You got a bank on Kean Coleman having that you know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: trajectory he was on that kind of got curbed with
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: the injury. You got a bank on him, you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: really taking off and Josh Palmer and Elijah Moore being productive,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: more productive than Cooper and mc collins were. And that's
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: kind of where you're at again in another MVP run.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: But I agree, I'm gonna be very upset if it
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: happens again. And I think I'm in the one more crowd.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I think you're in the out right now crowd.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I've been out since thirty you talking about.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I'm in the one more crowd.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: But I just I didn't see a lot of opportunity
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: for us to make those big splashes and really kind
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: of go all in on offense and sad.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: And we'll agree that he was probably in on DK,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: right you'll you'll say that, right you will? Yeah, Bean,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Bean, like Bean was probably exactly around
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: he was doing this exactly, Okay.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I agree, And I just you know, it's
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: the number, but the number is going to be the number,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: and it's all only going to get bigger with these receivers.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: It can't be like, oh, well, we can't pay a
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: receiver thirty mil.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Well you're gonna have You're gonna have to pay h mil.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: You know if he would be.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: But that leads to a conversation, Scott, I want to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: know what you think does Please don't tell me that
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: fourteen soured Brandon Bean all together, because he talked about
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Bean in that interview too. He talked about that too.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Don't And you know that I'm a you already know
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: me Scott, and DT definitely knows he's been my rid
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: or die. I'm a fourteen apologist, so I'll stick up
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: for any time. And I noticed that he put that
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: dig in there when he was like, you know, pun intended.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: He was like, we we we showed you that we
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: could do it without stuff on digs. What are y'all
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: talking about? And as soon as he said stuff on digs?
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, are you trying to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: say that you prefer everybody eats? Now? Obviously they've done
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: that the last last year. They're going to ride into
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: it again this year. Do you do you think that
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: that Brandon Bean is scared? And you you take the time,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: you take the floor, because I can't I can't imagine
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: that the four most productive seasons of Buffalo Bill's wide
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: receiver has ever given this franchise, and that includes the
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Andre Reid, who I love. I can't
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: believe that being was soured on how it ended, where
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: he's like, I'll never do that again. I would. I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: would just be flabbergasted that that's his position. I really,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I really would.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. I think he's really annoyed
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: with how it ended. But I think he'd pull the
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: trigger if he had the right guy at the right
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: spot and the right money. I think, like DK metcalf,
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: if I think it was I think he'd pull the trigger.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: But I think at the same time, he's not impressed.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: And when you got to eat thirty one large because
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: of a I don't know what the hell that all was.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: Drama stuff that's painful, but he pulled the pulled the
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: band aid off and and off we go.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: But I think that probably was.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Impressed with the production. Though he was impressed with the produce,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I don't AFC Championship game. That's just as far as
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: they got last year.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: I don't think you can live on and we saw
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: that's why we had to go get Amari Cooper, Like
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: we tried Everybody Eats and it stayed that way all season.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: It was still Everybody Eats, but we had to up
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: the talent level of the everybody part, like we were
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: trying to do Everybody Eats with m HM right now.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Mac Collins ended up showing out better than a lot
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: of people thought, but he's not I mean, I call
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: him a dude because he's swagger and he made some
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: big plays, but you know he's gonna he's he's topped
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: out where he's at. So I think we can get
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: away with another year because supposedly Palmer is going to
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: be an upgrade to the room. Elijah Moore is going
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: to bring us some speed, so Everybody Eats is not
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: as frightening. Would it be cool if you could just
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: smash Palmer in more into an Alpha wide receiver one
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: and have that guy, Oh hell yeah, hell yeah, I would,
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: But we don't have it. But I think our Everybody
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: Eats can work.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: The problem was it works.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it works.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Hopefully everybody stays humble enough that you don't have people
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: screaming for for reps or or targets.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: He mentioned that too, what are you a Brandon bean?
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: What do you work for? What do you work for being?
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: He mentioned that to do he said, when you got
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: those guys, he said, they start they could start barking
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: for targets. And I was like, wait a minute. And
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: he mentioned Diggs and he mentions that. I was like,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, I don't but but dogs.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Never have that guy right now though of course not,
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: of course not.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking, is he's scared? Like does he
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: not scared? But like, is he is? He does? Does
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: he have trepidation over it again for a DK or
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: for one of those big guys because of how it ended?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Because to me, that makes no sense because of the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: production that fourteen brought you over those four years. So
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the people that don't like fourteen and want to rail
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: on him, I say, I have scoreboard. We made it
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship game with him. I don't have
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a may with everybody eats.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: He's who he is. I don't know the man.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: You know, he likes to be la And then everybody
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: was ready to kick him out.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: Brought Josh Allen into his in that moment, and then
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Josh continued after and I love that Josh was just
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: fine without him. That's not an indictment on Stefan Diggs.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: That's just Josh's trajectory, you know. And Stefan had a
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: big role in getting Josh into.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: That toper a symbiotic relationship.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I think all of those things can be true.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: So I'm I'm excited to see that everybody eats see
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: if it can work two years in a row. And
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know how sustainable it is.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I just you know, I say the same thing, and
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I get shouted down by by little of those guys,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: and they'll tell me DT, They'll tell me they just
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: did it, And I'm like, I understand. The one caveat.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you DT as we begin to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: wrap up tonight, the one caveat I want to remind
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia Nickel City crew, please please don't look, don't
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: gloss over this as we begin to close tonight. Last year,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, our Buffalo Bills took the ball back,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: excuse me, took the ball away at at a very
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: high clip. They gave the ball away at a historically
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: low clip. Yes, they had eight turnovers in seventeen regular
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: season games that is that is freakishly efficient and the
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: ball is oblong. There is no way that anyone in
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Bill's mafia or anyone that covers the NFL could ever
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: make me think that that is something that I should
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: expect this year. So because of that, I feel like
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: there's just a regression to the mean that is just
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: natural because it's football. Because the ball bounce is funny
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: when it's on the ground, it's just it's really really weird.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it bounces off their hands and into a defender's hands.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: If you think that the Bills are going to only
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: have eight turnovers every single season with this everybody eats approach,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I think that you are. You are grossly, grossly underestimating
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the power of luck. It's a lot of it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Well, let's let's just talk honest, real talk for a minute.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: This we get to sing towards the end here, I'm
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: not gonna be shy about saying it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: We're lucky ass lucky. We got to.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: The period Baltimore.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: Look, we were there. We were there at the end,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: so there was We did our part, but we didn't
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: win that game because we dominated the Baltimore Ravens. We
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: won that game at the end on a play where
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Mark Andrews drops the football.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, I see that.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I have to happen again.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Let go. I see you frown. I said that on
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Twitter and I got smacked in the head. They're like,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? We beat them, We beat them.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I understand.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: We beat them, though there was a lot of luck
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: that goes along with it. But didn't force that fumble.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, he forced the fumble and we still
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: could have lost at the end of the game. I
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: won't apologize for a little bit closer to that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I agree, but I also I I deter too.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I said it felt different, and it felt like our
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: year more than any other year last year. At a
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: few times, it felt like there was a dominant force
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: behind seventeen that was going to be tough to stop
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: no matter what. Yes, that specific situation bounced our way
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: and worked out for us, But I think we deserve
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: to win that game.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: We did not deserve to win that. We did not
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: deserve to win the Kansas City Chiefs game.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: We got out played in all all facets and you know, offense, defense,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: special teams, and coaching there. We did not deserve to
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: win that game. And we're probably a little more in
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: it than we should have been when there. It could
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: have been a blowout before halftime if Josh doesn't throw
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: a dime to you know, Matt Collins before halftime. So yes,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I do not expect the you know to have a
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: low turnovers and and get as many turnovers.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I do not expect.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: But what I do expect is an increase in production
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: from somebody on that offensive you know scheme that wasn't
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: there last year.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I sat Holman to be better. I expect.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I expect Josh Palmer and Elijah More to be better
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: than Amari Cooper and MATC Collins combined.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I expect those guys to be better.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: I don't expect James Cook to has sixteen touchdowns again,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: but I expect Ray Davis to be better. I expect
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: T Johnson to be just as good. So I do
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: not expect we are going to be in that same
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: turnover margin. It's just not possible, as you said it,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: and I agree and everyone I think that's just fact
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: at that point.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: But I do expect better production to make up for
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: what we lose when we were grateful for all those
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: turnovers this year, yep.
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: I think the defensive takeaways will be okay, they'll they'll
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: I think they can sustain a high clip, maybe not
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: that high, but it'll be there. But I think the
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: offense man that was that was insane. That was absolute anomaly.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: And I'm with you, especially with a you know two
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: for sure significant new hands sets of hands with uh
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: with Palmer and Elijah Moore, you know, settling in and
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: getting chemistry together. And I think Cook had a had
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: a freakishly, you know, wonderful season as far as as
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: touchdowns go. I'm kind of curious to see what they
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: do with James Cook. I really like them. I could
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: get a second contract for James Cook if he stays healthy.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: I'm fine with that, but it's not going to be
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: at the top of the league, like it can't be.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: And one thing we got is we got Ty Johnson
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: and Ray Davis behind him, so we kind of have
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: a luxury. If I thought we might make a make
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: a package with Cook to move up and do something
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: in the draft, I thought, that's a trip.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: That's that's gonna make me mad though, because like, why
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: are we trading away weapons for Josh? That gets me
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: back to that same.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Thing I got you.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I got you subtracting from seventeen so I got you.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I just I'm you know where I'm at. You know
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: what I'm goot. I mean, as we begin to wrap
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: up tonight, I just I wanted I didn't want anybody
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: to gloss over at that point. And I appreciate you
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: guys opinions on that. I just I and I not
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: that you agree with me, but that just whenever I
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: hear people talk about that, everybody it's almost like I
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: called it. I did call it that almost I called
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: it poison. Everybody eats is poison because of the fact
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that it makes you wipe out the years of the
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: digs Era. Okay, that's fine. You want to wipe it
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: out and act like it didn't happen and act like
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: we didn't have extreme success. He's the most productive wide
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: receiver in a four year period over Andre Reid. I mean,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: it's not it's hands down. The numbers speak for themselves.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: But then in addition to that, now you're trying to
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: tell me that this approach is better than that based
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: on the fact that it's all kumbaya and what what
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: did kumbay I get us? Kumbaya got us to the
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: exact same level that we got during the DIGS era.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: So because of that, I don't think that it's sustainable.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Because of the fact that I'm on my side and
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think that I want a dog. I want
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: somebody that the defensive coordinator on Saturday night just like,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: oh shit, man, like we're getting ready to go up
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: against you know whoever, and like, man, this guy is
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: a dog like Kia. You know, let's say key On
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Coleman flourishes and he like, man, Kean's a dog.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: We got to figure out we got a bracket coverage.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: We're gonna saw that one Cooper got on the field
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden, omens open.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: What's that all about?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the champions. The fact that even though he
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't productive, we scored seven more points per game. So
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, then you then that then that's fine.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: That means that it worked. So listen, man, everybody eats
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: is poison to me. I don't like it, but I
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: cannot say that it didn't work last year because of
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the fact that the results, the results said that it worked.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I just don't know how sustainable it is when you
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: add in the turnovers which anybody banking on turnovers. I
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: think you're making a big, big mistake. I really do. Listen, Scott,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: we appreciate you coming on again tonight and sharing some
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: of your thoughts. Man, I really appreciate you. Lincoln, give
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: us a Nickel Cindy Crue Tailgate report. As we close
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: out tonight, Scott, I know you're out there in Ohio.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: We've got what is a Kentucky Derby? I think BT
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: te you the weekend? Yeah, yeah, What's what's on the
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: menu this weekend?
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: As we close up, Man, I'm looking at a bunch
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: of rain, but I got to get to the meet Mark.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna be grilling out in the rain
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: on Saturday, So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go pork shops.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Man, do it, do it? DT close us out man,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: your Nickel City Crew, tip Gate report. What we got
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: to what you got this weekends?
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I love the Derby, Big Derby fan, Me and me
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: and the boys enjoyed a lot. We got a nice crew.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow, I think we're gonna do a little our own
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: makeshift Derby bar crawl. We're gonna get dressed up in
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: our pastels and our hats and then you're in Kentucky
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: and then and then and they did it at a
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: place to watch the derby and you know, try to
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: win some money. Had a decent year last year, hit
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: the hit the winter last year.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I've got it. I'm
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: daddy duty all weekend, man, So I've got the I've
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: got the kings, and the moms are working and all
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the other stuff. So I'm chilling tonight. I'm gonna try
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: to recharge the battery. And then we've got we got
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: soccer tomorrow, We've got baseball tomorrow, We've got we got
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: every damn thing. And then by Sunday, I'm hoping to
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: really be able to just just to relax and then
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: watch some playoffs. So I know the playoffs in the
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: basketball and NHL are still going on.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: So HL play.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: It's a blessed But it's funny because I'm not a
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: horse racing fan, but it's like it is something that
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: people like. It's like clockwork. Every year. They've got their
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: own little traditions. Every year, they've got their own little
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: routines and stuff like that. So I don't know, I
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: guess I'll be forty in the summer. Maybe I should
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: get I don't know what tradition. Maybe I should get
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: a tradition. Maybe maybe look up and google how to
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: make a mint julip And then that they are twenty
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: bucks on a horse that I have no idea about,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: like and and lose twenty bucks on a horse? But
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: how fun would it be if they want?
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: So?
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, man, but I think I do.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I think I need to grow up and finally get
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: a Kentucky Derby weekend routine. I think I need to.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: So it's probably the routine.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it you know, it's it's in the off season,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: so it kind of fills that void of like that
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: the football you know, flowing. You know, we're not we're
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: not invested really in in these NHL or NBA teams,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: and the playoffs are good to watch, but the Derby,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: you know, even if you're putting two to two five
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: ten bucks on somebody, you're gonna be cheered for it, right,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: So watching.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Like hell and my money's on it.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: It's a good vibe. And yeah it's not my I
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: want to get down there. It's on my bucket list
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: to actually attend.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: So that's what's up. That's cool, man, listen. I appreciate
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: you guys tonight. I think that, you know, overall, I
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: think that even the wide receiver training folks like myself
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: that are passengers on we knew that there was gonna
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: be a defensive draft. I don't think that anybody was
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: surprised by that. I think Brandon Bean was. I think
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: you guys had some good points, you know, like about
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: you know, being tired and just and then flexing about
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Josh and then flexing about like you're critiquing me, and
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I do this like all
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: year long, and like, you know, you don't know my board,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you know, and which is true, we don't know the board.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: But I do like Scott's point. I don't think he
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: necessarily understood what they were trying to ask because of
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the fact that he, you know, he doesn't listen to
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: w g R like we do and stuff like that,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: so I think he kind of missed a little bit
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: of the context. But I really enjoyed it. It was
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: great radio, and it led for a great week. I
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: heard Steven A. Smith talk about the Buffalo Bills of
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the off season. I'm like, no, I know this motherfucker
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: about the bills, like unless it's playoff time. So it
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: was really really fun. He made it all the way
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: to everybody. McAfee. I think NFL Live. I was watching
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: the other day with Quincy on the couch and they
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: were talking about Brandon Bean, tell us what you really think.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, He's on NFL Live, Like what is
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: going on? Like you know? So it was. It was
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: really cool week. Like you guys said, it was great radio.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Listen, Well, if we ever if we ever get him
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: on the crew, we don't.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: We don't want to fight. I'm ready to fight anybody.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I am neo.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: I wear your safety gear, man, I will fight anybody.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Listen out there, spread love, not hate. These were my bills. Thoughts,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: set out loud, all right, fellas, hit him, Hit him
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: with the go bills. We'll be back next week. We
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: got some surprises coming up for you, Nico City crew.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Hit him with the go bills.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: You'll have a good weekend.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Go bills. I love it, I love it. I love it.