Latest / Financial Survival Network / Crunch Time in the Economy - John Rubino #5941
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- 0:48Lutz, It's it's eleven seven twenty three. John Rabinaz with us. Now,
- 0:55hey man, John, the debt situation. It looks like we've gotten
- 0:59to the point where too much of a good thing or too much of a
- 1:03bad thing has become a really bad thing, right thy carry Yeah, well,
- 1:07you know it could be that the interest rates finally pedat this last week,
- 1:11because I mean, there's lots of stuff. I'll go go through some
- 1:14of the bad things that are happening to the economy that make it look like
- 1:15it's a slowdown. Plus we got, you know, a second potential world
- 1:19war out there, so I think so the FED paused at their meeting and
- 1:26they said some relatively dubbish things. I think a big part of it is
- 1:32that they don't want to be tightening into a global military crisis, so they
- 1:37want us to have the liquidity that we need to you know, to fight
- 1:41a two different wars. So that's that's a big part of the rationale.
- 1:44And the other part is that, yeah, you know, under the surface,
- 1:47we've been talking for so long about how high interest rates have to go
- 1:49before they start breaking things. Well, there are things that are breaking.
- 1:53They're not the headline numbers, like they're not GDP AT or unemployment or anything.
- 1:57But you know, the GDP now reading from the Atlanta Fed or the
- 2:02current quarter instead of the previous quarter is like one percent room and so growth
- 2:08is slowing down dramatically, which reddit card debt is soaring and personal interest expense
- 2:15I didn't even know that was a staff that the said kept and I didn't
- 2:20either, but it's spiked and it's up above a trillion dollars from a considerably
- 2:23lower level just recently. But you know, the interest that consumers are pay
- 2:29is way up now, which means consumer spending has to because of that.
- 2:34And student loan payments just kicked in, and let's see, credit card delinquencies
- 2:40are spiking. Home purchase mortgage applications are down to nineteen ninety four levels.
- 2:47We had like two thirds of the number of people in the country in ninety
- 2:52nine before that we have now, And yet the mortgage is being taken out
- 2:55to buy houses today are only at that level them back then. And you
- 3:01know, we Work, I didn't know they didn't go to bankrupt I thought
- 3:04We Worked was already a bankrupt company, but apparently not. They just declared
- 3:07bankruptcy. And that's a big commercial real estate manager. So they had oney
- 3:13million square feet of all of the space. Yeah. The whole thing was
- 3:17a scam, wasn't it. Do I have that run? They tried to
- 3:22pretend that they were a tech company when they were really just a real estate
- 3:24management company. So they got a tech and a bad evaluation. Yeah,
- 3:30And so what it was was they were you know, next generation office space.
- 3:34Anybody can come in and just sign up for a desk, YadA YadA,
- 3:37you know, which is just sillage. But anyhow, they're bankrupt,
- 3:42and what happens to all the real estate leases that they have taken out on
- 3:46that twenty million square feet? And then they're already they're already basically just defaulting
- 3:53on a lot of leases. A big chunk of them are in New York
- 3:54City, by the way, And so that is that's another hit to a
- 4:00sector that was already in trouble. Commercial real estate, especially in offices,
- 4:03bad news lately, and so now it's just going to be that much worse.
- 4:09There's other stuff, but you know that right there is enough to make
- 4:13you wonder if next year is going to be a deeply recessionary year. And
- 4:18so add in, you know, extremely high interest rates that are hitting everything
- 4:23in sight, and the potential for two wars that the US could get sucked
- 4:28into here still and yeah, you know, I think it's time for interest
- 4:32rates to roll over started heading back down and for the FED to start easing
- 4:38again. I don't think that happens right away, because inflation, at least
- 4:41headline inflation is still above target. But I think bad things are bad enough
- 4:46that it won't be long before the FED is forced to reintroduce panic QI.
- 4:53You know when they're when they're just buying every bond in sight. So that's
- 4:57a twenty four story. But yeah, it is inevitable. Hey, so
- 5:02you know we're always repeating that great gats be aligned. How did you go
- 5:08bankrupt? Slowly at first and then quickly? Listen to these highlights from total
- 5:14debt that the Federal Reserve just released today the Debt Report. Total household debts
- 5:20skyrocketed to seventeen point twenty nine trillion. Mortgage debt even though it's low,
- 5:27climbed by one hundred and twenty six billion to twelve point four trillion. Credit
- 5:32card debt jumped forty eight billion, which is a four point seven quarterly increase.
- 5:38Student loan debt grew by thirty billion and is now at one point six
- 5:42trillion, and auto loan debt is now at one point six trillion. So
- 5:46there's as much student loan debt as there are as there is auto loan debt.
- 5:51So it makes you think the students would have been better off buying cars
- 5:57and driving for Uber, right, I think fifty percent of college students,
- 6:02Yes, they would have been better off going straight to work. You know,
- 6:05there's a South Park episode now, where one of the subplots is that
- 6:12in south Park, Colorado, in the town that the cartoon takes place in,
- 6:15all the handy men are getting rich because because all the upper class people
- 6:21got all these college degrees that are completely useless and so yeah, and they
- 6:26don't they don't know how to fix anything. Yeah, So the handyman or
- 6:29the new one percent in that town. And if you know what I think,
- 6:34you know, if you had an eighteen year old kid right now and
- 6:36you had a choice of sending them to a liberal arts school or to a
- 6:43plumbing you know, plumber's office where they become like a journeyman plumber or something
- 6:47like that, choose the plumber and it's it's their life will be so much
- 6:51better. Now I got our dex business, John, We're going to start
- 6:57Handyman Academy where we're going to train people to be handyman because basically handyman's kind
- 7:04of like a journeyman. He could do a little bit of a bunch of
- 7:08different things. He's a uh, you know, basically an expert in many
- 7:15areas, but a master of none. And you know, whether it's painting,
- 7:19a little plumbing, little carpentry. They can do it all. So
- 7:24we start the handyman economy because there's a shortage of them. I'll tell you
- 7:29here in Florida, you get a good handyman and you want to like adopt
- 7:32the person and make them part of your family. My handyman got deported and
- 7:38my life has never been the same. See, that's the kind of illegal
- 7:44immigrant we want. Somebody is all going to be handyman out there in the
- 7:49world, who are are yet American citizens? They should just come here,
- 7:56you know, those are the people we should let in that that actually is
- 7:59okay. Two things. One is you should totally start that school. You
- 8:01know. That would be if you had a degree in from handyman you certification,
- 8:07Yeah, because one thing you're you know, you don't know how to
- 8:09trust a new handyman, right they know what they're doing or anything. But
- 8:13if you've got a degree in bag handyman, then that's, uh, that
- 8:16gives him ten extra bucks an hour. Probably. So I have a kid
- 8:20who works for something called oh what the heck not called task Rabbits. Yeah,
- 8:28oh right, right, yeah, I've heard that. Yeah, it's
- 8:30like it's like uber for handyman and so and he says, he, you
- 8:35know, he makes forty bucks an hour putting together ia desks and things like
- 8:39that because people don't know how to do that. And yeah, so he's
- 8:43actually kind of like it. And it's it's you know, varied, and
- 8:46it's challenging, and it's you know, the hours are basically his to choose,
- 8:52and he feels like he's making pretty good money. So yes, and
- 8:56and you know, I'm much happier with him doing that, and I would
- 9:01be with him in you know, year three at Oberlin or someplace. Yes,
- 9:05he's radical arts. Yeah, in puppetry, right, yeah, getting
- 9:09is pursuing his degree in puppetry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyhow,
- 9:16that's well, that like are an interesting trend. Yeah, it's an
- 9:20interesting new favorites Habeny. Nobody knows how to fix anything anymore, John,
- 9:24You know, this is what society's devolved into, all these advanced degrees.
- 9:28I was fortunate my father was a builder and was an ace mechanic, so
- 9:33I was fixing stuff from the time I was a little kid. But even
- 9:37still, there's certain things I don't like to fix. Like I don't like
- 9:39to fix grout and tiles because you're on your knees and you're bending over.
- 9:45And I tried fixing a toilet the other day and the hose disconnected and I
- 9:50had two inches of water on the floor. I would have gladly just paid
- 9:54a handyman one hundred bucks to just take care of it for me. And
- 9:56then when your toilet leaks, you don't want to calling a plumber because it's
- 10:01a little too extreme. But a handyman who's trained by Kerrie and John's a
- 10:07Handyman academy. I mean, that's a guy you can trust. You should
- 10:09totally found that school. You know, you would take that thing public five
- 10:16years after foundings and you'd be a billionaire. I think we can do this,
- 10:20man, I think this is a business model that'll work because nobody can
- 10:24fix anything, especially here in Florida. They're all old, so even if
- 10:28they used to know how to fix stuff, they've probably forgotten. The younger
- 10:33people never knew how to fix anything anyway, and the people in the middle
- 10:37just can't be bothered. Right, Well, what's the generation that comes after
- 10:41the millennials? Is that Je lub Ay or the Zeemer? Can you imagine
- 10:46what it's going to be like when the zoomers are the homeowners. These kids
- 10:50who have played video games their entire lives, never really even interacted with other
- 10:54people face to face, but definitely never fix a leaky toilet or anything.
- 10:58It's just going to be this white, a little bit market. Yeah,
- 11:01oh yeah, yeah, forget it. You know. They they will,
- 11:05they'll happily hire somebody and pay him a hundred bucks to do stuff like that.
- 11:09Actually, I gotta say, I'm not handy. I'm one of those
- 11:13those guys. And we had a handyman back in Idaho where we lived before,
- 11:18and I literally offered him to come live in our spare roodom. I
- 11:24was. I was only partially kidding, you know, I said, good
- 11:26stuff, if you want to live here, you know, we have a
- 11:28bedroom you can just move in, because you know, we would get like
- 11:31a leak and I would think, oh my god, it's in the walls.
- 11:33We're gonna get mold, and I'd freak out, you know, and
- 11:37the plumber, plumber and the handyman would come and they would say, oh,
- 11:39yeah, we just need to put this little knob right here and it's
- 11:43fixed, you know. And so yeah, those guys were incredibly parts of
- 11:46our lives back then. Yeah, Hey, you've got to have a good
- 11:50handing man, and they're becoming harder and harder to find. And and that
- 11:56also fits in with probably if you get a hire a handyman, you're going
- 12:01to need to learn a foreign language, right because he's probably not going to
- 12:07be from the United States, so you know, wherever he might come from,
- 12:11you're going to have to if you want to communicate, Well, I
- 12:15guess you could use Google Translate, right, Well, no, you're your
- 12:20handymank college is going to have to have English as a second language department where
- 12:26you just thrill them and you know, what, how do you say facet
- 12:30and how do you say Philip said screw driver and stuff like that. You
- 12:33know, yeah, yeah, I think all right, So you need a
- 12:37little language arts in there, or at least you've got to teach them to
- 12:41use Google Translate. Well see, And then you know, if you're teaching
- 12:43them English, you get government money for that. The government will subsidize your
- 12:48English language programs for immigrants. So there's your second income stream. I love
- 12:52it, then, you do. You know the way the way a lot
- 12:56of coding boot camps do is they don't charge you anything to do the boot
- 12:58camp, but you will on one third of your salary for the next five
- 13:01years or something. Totally servitude while we're right. Yeah, yeah, you
- 13:07know, I totally do that with your handyman student. Oh I love it.
- 13:09We're onto something here, man, Like we just need to franchise out
- 13:13our brains so we don't have to do anything, right, But there's like,
- 13:22you know, there's really a need for these people, and and we
- 13:26haven't been doing anything to make sure that they actually you know, it's like
- 13:37nurses. I mean, all these different jobs we just can't keep up with.
- 13:43And you would think it a market economy we supposedly used to have.
- 13:48We would the market would be producing these people, right, Yeah, that's
- 13:52the weird thing. Things on being balanced buy the market like they used to
- 13:56be. Do you know what a traveling nurse is? Have you heard of
- 13:58it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, do you know about that? That's
- 14:01the weirdest thing. There are these nurses that travel around. They take like
- 14:05six months condirect gigs, but for crazy money. I met one who makes
- 14:09five thousand dollars a week in a cent Yeah is right, five thousand a
- 14:15week? Did you five thousand a week? Oh my god? Yeah?
- 14:18And and and it's a six month contract. He does that, and then
- 14:22he moves on to another place and you get Yeah, he gets to live
- 14:26in and it's a guy. And get this, his name is Possum.
- 14:31Yeah, he's a he's a country boy. He looks like a Texas biker.
- 14:35But he's got it. He's an ICU nurse and they're they're in such
- 14:41shortage that he can just choose where he wants to live for six months and
- 14:45and make like investment banker money while he's doing it. Yeah, it's it's
- 14:48crazy that that exists. You think that the market like that would be flooded
- 14:52with people wanting that job, you know, but apparently not. Yeah,
- 14:56like what happened? I mean, we were getting all these is from the
- 15:00Philippines. Did they run out of them? I mean, seriously, we
- 15:03had a program in the United States recruiting Filipino nurses and healthcare people to come
- 15:11to the United States. But I guess I guess that's over. Well,
- 15:13see that the broader issue if this takes us into immigrant immigration policy, where
- 15:20we should definitely have immigration, but we should we should be picking and choosing
- 15:24the people that come, right, Not just that, but he who walks
- 15:26across the border. It should be okay. Do you got any English language
- 15:28skills to begin with? Do you have any technical skills that we need?
- 15:31You know, can you program a computer? Are you a ic? Your
- 15:35nurse? Come on in, you know. And if we did that,
- 15:37we would upgrade our society really dramatically by you know, causing a brain drain
- 15:43in the rest of the world. But that's how we should be doing it,
- 15:45and we're we're doing everything wrong. Kary. You know what, never
- 15:48matter what we talk about, it's it's what we're doing wrong. In the
- 15:50United States. We are a dumb country. Now we've been dumbed down,
- 15:56but from top to bottom. But like our leaders, you know, who
- 16:00isn't dumb down. A market based economy is supposed to correct for stupidity,
- 16:06and it's not happening here. That's what's really weird about this, because you
- 16:10know, you would think that everything would be optimized by people making their own
- 16:14choices and drawing in the talent that they need to run their industry perfectly and
- 16:18everything, and it's not happening. So I can't explain it. I guess
- 16:22that's a subject for a either a long and I want a video show for
- 16:25you or a long substack for me. I want to know, like why
- 16:29we aren't producing the people that we need. We're importing engineers, like from
- 16:33all over the world, India, China, you name it. We can't
- 16:37seem to produce anybody. Doctors, you know, no longer homegrown. They're
- 16:44coming from all over What are we producing here? You know, we're producing
- 16:48like guys, I guess we're still producing programmers and AI engineers, right,
- 16:57programmers, that type of thing, But we seem to like have lost our
- 17:03ability to produce the people we need to run this complicated economy. Yeah,
- 17:10but see that's what immigration ideally would fix, right, that's yeah, that's
- 17:14the kind of the safety VIOB When you've got some big gap in your economy,
- 17:17you just look around the world and invited in the people who fix your
- 17:21problem. We don't do that though. Yeah, see we could with immigration
- 17:26fix all these things we're talking about that are wrong. Like, yeah,
- 17:30you'd get handymen from all over the world if we need them. You know,
- 17:33we could get a million plumbers to move here this week if we just
- 17:38advertised it correctly. Right, they come from Dagistan and from Honduras. It
- 17:42doesn't matter. If you're a plumber, you come and we could do that,
- 17:47but we're not. We're I don't know, I don't know. Maybe
- 17:49did they Ramaswami. We'll come up with that idea and actually fix it if
- 17:55he's ever president or maybe RFK. You know, those are the kinds of
- 17:59guys who seem to be thinking at least about stuff, and maybe they'll come
- 18:03up with an idea that you instead of just closing the border, you use
- 18:08immigration as a way to upgrade. And yeah, well doesn't sound like rocket
- 18:12science. That's what we used to do, I think, But you know
- 18:18it's uh, I don't get it. But hey, but odd to important
- 18:23matters or other important matters. So we've already talked about the tenure has peaked.
- 18:30It appears, you know, it was up I think you mentioned to
- 18:33five percent. Now it's down to four point six. What does that tell
- 18:37you about the economy if the rates are going down and the bond vigilantes are
- 18:42thrown in the towel. Well, I think five percent is a big round
- 18:48number, and you would expect, just technically a lot of selling to be
- 18:52right there, because you know, people like to put there their buy and
- 18:55sell orders at round numbers. So five percent is now resistance. Okay,
- 19:00it's a ceiling for interestingness. And if we have a ten year you know,
- 19:04spikes above it, then maybe it becomes the floor. So we don't
- 19:07know for sure that interest rates have peaked, but they do feel like they
- 19:11have, and it's legiti Now, there's a legitimate reason to think that they
- 19:15should peak here because five percent was higher than the terminal rate in two thousand
- 19:21and seven, back when we only had half as much debt as we have
- 19:25now. You know, so I think we're financially more fragile today, which
- 19:29means the terminal interest rate, the rate that starts breaking things, would be
- 19:33lower. And you know, it could be that we're going to look back
- 19:36on this and say, oh, we overshot when we got to five percent.
- 19:38You know, we should have started cutting it more or whatever. But
- 19:41we'll see, you know, it's there's just an awful lot of stuff going
- 19:45wrong out there. I'm worried about the small banks, you know, with
- 19:48the with commercial real estate tanking. A lot of local and regional banks own
- 19:52that debt and so that story has yet to play out, and that's that's
- 19:56a scary thing. Oh, it's a really scary in a trillion dollars a
- 20:02year is our interest expense or it's going to be for the US debt,
- 20:07So you knew that they're going to monetize a chunk of this death. Even
- 20:12if they monetize the interest payment itself, that's still a trillion dollars of printing
- 20:18out of thin air just to keep this whole thing afloat. How long can
- 20:22they keep doing that for? John? Yeah, you see, there's this
- 20:26big debate about why the Fed is still running massive deficits with the economy growing
- 20:30and you know the last GDPRO before it was four point five percent annual rate,
- 20:36So why is the deficit so massive? And the answer is pretty straightforward.
- 20:40Suddenly we have a trillion dollars a year in interest expense, whereas before
- 20:44it was three hundred billion or whatever. So we have this this five hundred
- 20:48to seven hundred billion dollar extra bill that there's really nothing we can do about.
- 20:53Brenton and printed. Well. You know what else is interesting about this
- 20:57is that the federal government, and with that big deficit that they're running,
- 21:00they started borrowing very short just lately. So it's like they knew interest rates
- 21:07had peached. I mean, we're going to go back down. You know,
- 21:08it could be that there's a there's some collusion going on there where the
- 21:12Treasury Department told the Fed, you need to start cutting interest rates, and
- 21:15for the next couple of months, we're going to anticipate that by borrowing three
- 21:19months out, all right, and by that time those three month things,
- 21:25by the time they come due, we want to be able to roll them
- 21:27over at a lower rate. And so we'll see it. But it sounds
- 21:30like something like that happened. Yeah, well, it's definitely it's definitely intractable.
- 21:37There's nothing they can really do other than print up another trillion, buy
- 21:44a trillion dollars worth of treasuries every year. But you know, like something
- 21:49like seventy percent of the national dead is actually interest on the dead that has
- 21:56been rolled over. At least that was what it was a few years ago,
- 22:00probably even higher now. So basically the whole scheme of you know,
- 22:06printing up some money and then issuing a note. So the Treasury issues a
- 22:11note to the Federal Reserve. It then prints money out of thin air and
- 22:17gives it to them, and then it collects interest. It sells that debt
- 22:21off and the banks are printing up money to buy it, and then you
- 22:26know, seventy percent. So if we just got rid of seventy percent of
- 22:30the debt, that would be the interest that's accrued on the debt that we
- 22:33just rolled over. You know, it's a mess. Yes, we're kind
- 22:41of we're kind of doing modern monetary theory already. Yeah, we had Well,
- 22:47why are the gold miners so cheap when all this is happening? You
- 22:51know, that is an interesting question because they are ridiculously cheap right now.
- 22:55If you look at for instance, GDX, the big gold mining ETF yeah,
- 23:00versus say the NASDAK or something like that. The ASDAC went up mostly
- 23:03in the past year. GDX went down, and then there's like a twenty
- 23:07five percentage point gap between their performance. GDX is very early up for the
- 23:12year and the NASDA action is up, you know, twenty percent or so.
- 23:15Why is that? Who knows? I think one one part of that
- 23:21is that mining became a very hard business. In the last couple of years.
- 23:23Oil prices went up and labor costs went up, and those are the
- 23:26two main inputs in a mine, or two main costs of running a mind.
- 23:32So mining margins were squeezed by that. But now oil is down.
- 23:37It's in the seventies again from the low nineilies not too long ago. Yeahotead
- 23:44of the seventies today, you know this. Yeah, at last I saw
- 23:47it was like seventy eight dollars a barrow or something. So it's getting whid
- 23:49seven forty four according to kid Go. Okay, So this is inflation anticipation
- 23:56or on recession anticipation behavior, right. I seen people buy long bonds and
- 24:00they're selling oil, which is a cyclical asset. So the markets are anticipating
- 24:06a big slow down. Now. If energy costs to go down, that
- 24:10helps the miners, other things being equal, And if the government starts cutting
- 24:14interest rates that also that helps the price of gold and silver. Yes,
- 24:17well, miners are looking really cheap at these levels, and even the royalty
- 24:23streaming companies, which are normally the closest thing to risk free in that space,
- 24:29have just gotten whacked lately. So yeah, I think it's possible that
- 24:33we're nearing a bottom, a cyclical bottom for prison with the golden's over miners,
- 24:37and so if the FED is back to easing, they go up unless
- 24:44the industry just ceases to exist. It can't get any cheaper than it is.
- 24:48Well, there's a lot of political risk out there. All of a
- 24:52sudden, the thing happened with frank and Nevada. It's ps WE where they're
- 24:56literally their biggest royalty streaming deal is with this gigantic copper gold mine in Panama
- 25:03that was going to send a torrent of cash to Franko Nevado over the next
- 25:07twenty or thirty years. But people started protesting that mind because of its environmental
- 25:14impact, which is, you know, a real thing. And the government
- 25:18in Panama that just threw up its hands and said, okay, on December
- 25:21seventeenth, we're going to have a referendum and if people vote to close the
- 25:26MIND, so be it. We close this mine. And so that's a
- 25:30big hit to Franko Nevada. It stock went down probably more than the hit
- 25:33that it's going to take if that MIND closes. So it actually became a
- 25:37better buy at its current price than it was before this bad news. But
- 25:42this means that political risk is an even bigger deal for the commodity space than
- 25:48it was before. You know, we had a revolution in an African country
- 25:52that was a big uranium producer, and we got this thing in Panama.
- 25:56And there was one more I forget, but there well, Chile, which
- 26:00used to be a rocket olid capitalist stream market Latin American country upon you know,
- 26:07is kind of talking about nationalizing some of its living minds and things.
- 26:11You know that they're thinking of doing things that would be very bad for mining
- 26:15as as a concept, you know, as a capitalist enterprise. So what
- 26:22that means is one, mining is suddenly a riskier business than we've got and
- 26:26two North American assets should be trading at a bigger premium than previously because it's
- 26:32it's less likely. But Canada and Mexico in the US, we're going to
- 26:37start nationalizing minds. It's not no guarantee. I think Biden would do that
- 26:40if you have the choice, and Trudeau would too. Look to Trilogy basically
- 26:45put that company out of business almost with the you know, they'd gotten the
- 26:51permit to build this road in the Arctic in Alaska, and then he revoked
- 26:56the approval and then they just filed a bunch of the projection metal objections and
- 27:00this is like hundred wilderness and it's a road that you know, is essential
- 27:07to come up with all these battery metals, there's cobalt, there's copper,
- 27:14all the things in the IRA Act, and they've defeated one of the largest
- 27:18potential copper producers in the world and unquestionable environmental grounds. So mining is not
- 27:27safe anywhere, John, is what it comes down to. Yeah, And
- 27:32okay, here here's what that means from an investment piesis standpoint one is that
- 27:37you want to lighten up on the actual miners and increase your exposure to the
- 27:44royalty streaming companies, which are really diversified, so they could be hurt by
- 27:48one mind having trouble, but they can't be killed. And then the third
- 27:52thing you want to do is emphasize physical commodity et apps. Yeah, sprought
- 28:00uranium right, Yes, For instance, they just go out and they buy
- 28:03uranium and they take it off the market and they hold on to it,
- 28:07so it doesn't matter what happens to that African uranium mine or anything. And
- 28:11it actually it's good for the physical atfs if there's stuff like that out there,
- 28:18because it makes the price of the commodity to go up, which makes
- 28:21the holdings of the physical ETF become more valuable. So I think that might
- 28:26be the play in the commodity space, right now, just load up on
- 28:30those physical ETFs and just let the market play out then, you know.
- 28:34And so actually the government will go to Sprout and say we need you uranium.
- 28:41Here's a check. Yeah. See, that's that's the big risk is
- 28:44that they expropriate what's in the vaults of the of the physical ETFs and then
- 28:49you know, we can't control that. But that's that's a little further down
- 28:52the road than mining nationalization. But you're right, nothing is saved, you
- 28:57know. The only thing that well, you want to store things involved in
- 29:02other countries just to spread your risk around, and you want to own physical
- 29:06stuff yourself because yeah, going back to our initial thesis, if you invest
- 29:11in human capital, meaning you learn how to fix stuff, because you won't
- 29:15be able to buy as much new stuff. We've already seen that from the
- 29:18pandemic, you know, so more stuff is going to have to be fixed,
- 29:23and we have less people who know how to fix it than ever before.
- 29:27So there's the play. Invest in the handyman academy, right, get
- 29:33a sort of get your handyman certification, and put your excess profits into physical
- 29:40metals and the ETFs. Yeah, that's that's probably going to end up end
- 29:45up being the portfolio that we look back on as the big winner. Right.
- 29:48You invest to yourself, Yeah, train yourself to be a handyman.
- 29:52You invest in whoever else trains the handyman, and then you get physical with
- 29:59your investment and that's probably the thing that works. You know, I'm kind
- 30:03of convincing myself. Now. I got the name too, for the for
- 30:07the Handyman Academy. Remember Three's Company, That guy Schneider in the Three's Company,
- 30:14he was a goofball. We call it Schneider's Handyman Academy. Okay,
- 30:18I remember the hot blonde in threes Company? Yeah? I do not remember
- 30:22a handyman or maybe yeah, I think it was with the moment Suzanne Summers.
- 30:27That's all I mad. Maybe I'm the wrong show, but hey,
- 30:32that's what memory does. All right. Well, that is it for this
- 30:34week. Make sure you go over to John Substack rabino dot substack dot com
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- 30:57All right, Kerry, thanks thanks for listening to carry Letz's Financial Survival Network,
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