Latest / Scene Projects Sports Network / Angel Whitehorse on Motorcycle Culture, Art Bikes, and Smoke Out 2026
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- 0:14Welcome into the Scene Project Sports Network.
- 0:17I am your host, Bubba Starts, and with me today is award winning motorcycle builder, Angel
- 0:22Whitehorse.
- 0:22Angel, welcome to the show.
- 0:23Hi.
- 0:24Thanks for having me.
- 0:25It's absolutely a pleasure.
- 0:27I got to meet you last year.
- 0:30We were both out at the Buffalo Chip.
- 0:32You were a little bit busier than I was with all the things that you were doing.
- 0:36Yeah.
- 0:36But we're gonna talk a little bit about that experience and all the, you know, things that
- 0:41you do.
- 0:42I love your YouTube channel.
- 0:44Get to watch you build these beautiful bikes that you're always working on, whether it's in
- 0:48the shop or out in the front yard.
- 0:50But before we get into all of that, really just wanna give you a minute here.
- 0:54Give us a little bit of your backstory, and then we'll pick it up from there.
- 0:58Alright.
- 0:59So I'm angel white horse, our Instagram angel underscore of anarchy.
- 1:04It's also on YouTube.
- 1:05I build motorcycles, and I have been for the past two years.
- 1:09I've won out at Harley Rendezvous, Sturgis in Daytona at Willie's Chopper Time, the iron
- 1:19goddess of Florida, and many others in the past two years that I'm super grateful for.
- 1:26I started building because I was bored pretty much.
- 1:32I moved to Florida, and there's a junkyard here.
- 1:36And you can see all the wonderful parts behind me.
- 1:39I am used to welding and fabrication in my family because my grandpa was a artist that put
- 1:49together different funky cars and would produce those.
- 1:54So I've always been into sort of that scene and then also the motorcycles because my father is
- 2:02into motorcycles as well.
- 2:05So I kinda combined those two interests and was like, well, what can I do with my life?
- 2:09I'm done dancing.
- 2:10I I'm not gonna be on the road doing that anymore.
- 2:13So what can I do next?
- 2:15I've always had this in the back of my brain of maybe build motorcycles.
- 2:21I don't know.
- 2:21You love choppers.
- 2:23And so then I just build my built my first Sportster, the heartthrob Harley.
- 2:28And one with that at the very first show I took it to, which was Renegade Babes People's Choice
- 2:34at Daytona Harley and bike week or biketoberfest.
- 2:39One of them.
- 2:42And now I've built a chopper for the Jerry Deers Chick filt Chopper show where there was
- 2:49eight girls that applied and only three completed it, and I was the only one that rode
- 2:53in.
- 2:54I'm pretty sure the other girls bikes rode, but we never got to see that.
- 2:58The creator who was the person who created this event, unfortunately, passed away halfway
- 3:06through, and it got taken over by some other people.
- 3:09I was personally told that it had to be a ride in show or you had to ride it around the block.
- 3:16I didn't get notification of the rule change, so I pushed my button, got it running, riding,
- 3:22rode at 40 miles into the show.
- 3:25And then now I am building this, which is a Sportster Chopper for Smoke Out twenty twenty
- 3:34six in North Carolina.
- 3:37I am the first woman builder in this show, and so I have to bring it.
- 3:47No.
- 3:47And and you have never lived a a typical life.
- 3:51Right?
- 3:52I think from an early age, of, I joked a little bit off camera with you being a welder, by
- 3:58trade myself, although I haven't done it for a couple of years now, that you kinda grew up
- 4:02underneath the hood, right, in your grandpa's junkyard and in his shop, I'm sure, and, you
- 4:07know, probably running a grinder at a very early age and working with tools.
- 4:12So while the you know, you've only been building bikes for two years, the fabrication
- 4:17side of it, you've kinda had your hands on from a very early age.
- 4:20And bringing an artistic mind, I feel like, to it just because of the like, growing up around
- 4:26someone like your grandfather who sounds like an absolutely incredible individual that would
- 4:30just take the things around and to create sculptures out of them.
- 4:34And now you're kinda bringing that artistic side into the bike building and and really
- 4:39making what I would call, I guess, functional art.
- 4:41Right?
- 4:41Art that you can ride around.
- 4:43Yeah.
- 4:44Yeah.
- 4:45I I I think all choppers that people put their heart and soul into are art.
- 4:50I think there is a distinction that needs to be made between people's bikes that they ride
- 4:57around and our motorcycles and are actually functioning and then motorcycles that are art
- 5:02though.
- 5:03Because there's been an influx in the scene of people just building a bike that doesn't fully
- 5:09function, but it looks awesome.
- 5:12They roll it into a show.
- 5:14They win with it.
- 5:15They roll it out, and it is it it's a piece of art to me.
- 5:20It is great.
- 5:21It's a piece of art, but it is not functional.
- 5:24But building bikes that fully run and are art is the business I'm in that I would like to see
- 5:33more of.
- 5:35There are plenty of young kids around doing this that are building functional bikes that
- 5:41are art, but it's been really flooded in the scene that a lot of these bikes don't run that
- 5:48you see out there on the at bike shows and being platformed online.
- 5:54It it's it's become really sad, I personally think.
- 6:00Right.
- 6:00And and for someone like me who's not fully ingrained in the culture, although I did grow
- 6:04up in the Black Hills and and have always you know, Sturgis is just a big part of our life
- 6:10naturally.
- 6:11Motorcycle culture hasn't necessarily been something that that I've been a big part of.
- 6:15So while you may be able to look at a bike that's on a showroom floor or up and, you know,
- 6:21on an elevated stage and out there and be able to go, yeah.
- 6:24That bike doesn't run.
- 6:25I would never know that.
- 6:27Right?
- 6:27Exactly.
- 6:28And I think there's a distinction for people that maybe don't aren't ingrained in the
- 6:32culture but do appreciate it.
- 6:33Right?
- 6:34And I guess that's kinda where I find myself, right, is as an appreciator of the artistry of
- 6:39it.
- 6:39But I think that I'm more inclined to see the ones that we can see out on the highway
- 6:44cruising around the pigtails in the Black Hills, as well as on the showroom floor.
- 6:49Oh, yeah.
- 6:50Yeah.
- 6:50I I believe bikes should be ridden.
- 6:53I don't believe they should be just sitting there.
- 6:55I don't I'm a rusty, crusty rat bike girl through and through.
- 7:01People have these chromed out beautiful, can't get a nick on it, can't get a scratch on it.
- 7:08They're beautiful.
- 7:10They're awesome.
- 7:11Love it.
- 7:11But where's the love?
- 7:15Where's the writing?
- 7:16Where's the oh, I got this scratch when I dumped it here.
- 7:19Oh, I remember my friend kicking his leg over and falling and then his back scratching my
- 7:27tank here.
- 7:28Oh, sat out in the rain.
- 7:30I I can ride it in the rain.
- 7:32I can ride and not worry about anything.
- 7:35Not worry about rocks being kicked up and ruining my paint.
- 7:39Although I do my own paint work and and stuff like that, I use the cheapest materials I can
- 7:45find.
- 7:45I use rattle can spray paint, acrylic paint from Walmart.
- 7:49My gold leaf is just gold leaf from Walmart.
- 7:53And the only expensive paint that I used was a two k clear that I still was only a spray can
- 7:59that you pop the bottom in and spray.
- 8:02Everyone is like, oh, you need to use this.
- 8:07Do what you want.
- 8:08Do what you want.
- 8:09If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
- 8:11Make sure that's not not safety wrong, but just everyone can that that's what choppers are
- 8:17about.
- 8:17There's a lot in the scene of, oh, traditional choppers are this way.
- 8:23And I'm like, no.
- 8:25Original choppers were the poor kids and poor people that couldn't find a dealership near
- 8:32them that would just take parts from whatever they could get and make them put together and
- 8:38run.
- 8:38And that's what I love about the chopper scene is my look into the chopper scene is kind of
- 8:45reducing, reusing, recycling part of it and using what you got instead of having to go and
- 8:51buy a new fancy new thing.
- 8:55There's too so much in the world of just, oh, I'm just gonna throw it away and buy a new
- 8:59thing when it's easily fixable, easily cleaned up.
- 9:05It just takes a little bit of elbow grease.
- 9:08Yeah.
- 9:09I feel like you're showing off your Midwestern roots.
- 9:11Right?
- 9:12You know, being someone who was raised in the Midwest as well.
- 9:15And, you know, my my father-in-law is a farmer.
- 9:18Right?
- 9:18Nothing gets thrown away until it's just absolutely destroyed.
- 9:22Right?
- 9:22Mhmm.
- 9:23And, we're we're always trying to fix it.
- 9:25There's there's not the there's not the money always to go out and to just buy something
- 9:29brand new.
- 9:30And and finding a way to take something old and to make it beautiful again, I I think there's
- 9:35really something magical about that.
- 9:37No doubt you get that from your upbringing and the people in your family, you know, that
- 9:43We're very much a duct tape family.
- 9:46If you can't be fixed with duct tape or super glue, you're not a white horse.
- 9:51That's so well and and speak to a little bit about it.
- 9:54I I know that you, you know, kind of raised in Wisconsin, and that's where the family is from.
- 10:00You you're talking about the birthplace of motorcycle culture.
- 10:03Right?
- 10:03I mean, the the chopper culture especially, and, you know, these these motorcycles kinda
- 10:09coming home from the early, you know, world the late World War two days and Yeah.
- 10:13You know, falling into the junkyards and being chopped apart and put back together.
- 10:17And, you know, you're you're a throwback, Angel, to a to a time when, I think there was a
- 10:22little more purity to the world.
- 10:25And that didn't mean that you had to have the shiniest, newest bike, that you had something
- 10:30that meant the world to you.
- 10:32You knew every nick and cranny of it.
- 10:35You knew the sounds that it made and if something was a little off by that.
- 10:39And I think that's really commendable to you to really embrace that part of it and to not give
- 10:46in to the pressure of doing something that is just not you.
- 10:51Because I think it would be very easy for a someone who's relatively new to the motorcycle
- 10:57building culture, right, to to, you know, kinda give in to a little bit of that peer pressure.
- 11:03And you are very staunchly, yourself and and proud of it, and I appreciate that.
- 11:08A little bit too much sometimes, though.
- 11:11To be honest, I have definitely lost out on jobs and opportunities just for because of who
- 11:18I am.
- 11:20Whether it be my views, my the way I dress, or even the way I talk, like my swearing.
- 11:27I'm not a proper girl in the sense of I don't swear.
- 11:32I I have the mouth of a sailor.
- 11:34I I am not proper in that way.
- 11:39I try to reel it in sometimes, but most of the time, it's what you see is what you get with
- 11:50me.
- 11:51And people think that I'm rude or mean, but I I think it's part of my autism to just do and say
- 12:01things that are staunchly correct, and and it it rubs people the wrong way.
- 12:10Yeah.
- 12:11Even though your name is Angel, there's no sugar coating Yeah.
- 12:15To to you whatsoever.
- 12:17What you're what you're gonna find is gonna be probably covered in a fair amount of grease and
- 12:22probably a little bit of sand from working out in the front yard as well.
- 12:26I would love for you to kinda share a little bit of your, you know, your process in building
- 12:31these bikes, that, you know, you're not working in some fancy shop with all the latest tools.
- 12:36I mean, we can see it in the bed.
- 12:38That is not an AI background that we did to make good.
- 12:41This is, this beautiful young lady's garage and and where I assure you spend an exorbitant
- 12:47amount of your time when you're not out on the road.
- 12:50So tell us a little bit about the you know, your process and how you build your bikes and
- 12:55the space that you work in.
- 12:57So it begins by just collecting stuff from swap meets and off these walls and the storage unit
- 13:06and in back and whatever I like.
- 13:08And then I pretty much just start throwing things together that work together that I like.
- 13:17I honestly have such a different way of doing bike building than people.
- 13:24People go, what do you mean?
- 13:25I'm like, oh, it just comes together.
- 13:28My I'll put something on and be like, alright.
- 13:31Wait.
- 13:31That looks nice.
- 13:32What about if I I add this here?
- 13:35What about if I and then it just pieces itself together?
- 13:40A little less a little less time on the CAD and in the design room, a little more Frankenstein.
- 13:46That yes.
- 13:47Exactly.
- 13:48My heartthrob Harley, I was dubbed the Frankenstein because it's it's literally three
- 13:54basket case bikes smooshed together because that's what I had.
- 14:00I think it's so cool.
- 14:04You know, like I said, someone who's not necessarily ingrained in the culture to see
- 14:08what you're doing, taking and reclaiming all of these, you know, old parts and and just kinda
- 14:15putting it together.
- 14:16I know you have the YouTube channel and you do a lot of your videos.
- 14:20Are you building the bike and kinda showing your process in there and sharing that?
- 14:25Now are are a lot of your fans of the, you know, of the YouTube channel and fans of your
- 14:31bike, do you find them to be of a certain Maybe some of the older gentlemen that can respect
- 14:36and appreciate what you're doing with some of these parts, or is it really a swath of of
- 14:41everyone?
- 14:42So the younger kids hate me.
- 14:49Well, not I shouldn't say that.
- 14:50That's such a strong word.
- 14:51But They probably just don't know how to take you, Angel.
- 14:55I don't know.
- 14:57The but also the older I don't know.
- 15:01I've heard that I am not liked in the motorcycle scene just because I'm annoying,
- 15:09but, like, annoying because of my views and annoying because they see my ass all the time
- 15:15everywhere.
- 15:20It's like I don't
- 15:20Fighting on a bike most of the time or in a van, I guess.
- 15:25Yeah.
- 15:26So, like, I I don't know.
- 15:27By the content I post and the fact that I'm on Playboy, people think that I am just trying to
- 15:34use my body as a way to get ahead in this world.
- 15:37But to me, if it's gonna happen either way of me being sexualized while doing this.
- 15:45So if I can get ahead of it and choose it myself instead of getting all these horrible,
- 15:52nasty comments that I have to fight all these people for, Instead, I can make money off of
- 15:57it.
- 15:57Why not?
- 15:59Why am I going to sit here and make myself miserable and delete comments and fight with
- 16:04people instead embrace it and be like, alright.
- 16:07Yeah.
- 16:07Sure.
- 16:08I'll be the sexy motorcycle builder.
- 16:10Sure.
- 16:10Yeah.
- 16:11But now you gotta pay me for the content that you wanna see.
- 16:14Like but it because I learned at a young age that no matter what a woman does, she's either
- 16:23gonna be told to put on clothes or take off clothes.
- 16:26So you have to be comfortable with yourself and however you wanna dress and however you wanna
- 16:32be.
- 16:34Well, and especially in a male dominated culture like, you know, motorcycle culture is
- 16:40that you're you're going to get the stigmas regardless.
- 16:45Right?
- 16:45Like, there's always gonna be someone that has an opinion that, well, you just got there
- 16:50because you're out there in your bikini working on your bike.
- 16:53And I I feel like what you're saying is, like, yeah.
- 16:56Yes.
- 16:57But, also, I'm in my bikini because it's a 110 degrees, and I'm more comfortable like this
- 17:03doing it.
- 17:03And and I don't mind working on my bike in this way either.
- 17:07And it's it's a it's a tough world to be in regardless of what of what you're gonna do.
- 17:13You're kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't.
- 17:15Exactly.
- 17:16So, like, there's like, Courtney Love like, right now, there's this big row because Olivia
- 17:23Rodrigo wore a baby doll dress, and people are going, you are inherently sexualizing yourself
- 17:28and infantizing yourself.
- 17:30But there's people like Courtney Love and people in the past that use their femininity
- 17:39and go, hey.
- 17:40I can be a feminine girl, but still do what you can do.
- 17:44I can wear a dress and do what you do.
- 17:47I can be sexy and do what you do.
- 17:50It's not a secular thing where it's I have to eat I I choose one or the other.
- 17:57I can be feminine and
- 18:00Kick your ass.
- 18:01Yeah.
- 18:01And still and still build a bike.
- 18:03I can talk shit, look sexy, and build a bike all at the same time, multitasking.
- 18:10No.
- 18:11And I love it.
- 18:12And it's, you know, what a great way to bring it all together with, you know, your motorcycle
- 18:18building and and creating the content around it.
- 18:21I think it's I think it's really cool that you're showing kind of you building on the
- 18:25bike, and it's not just you kind of, you know, just using your looks to, you know, build a
- 18:32bike that you're really showing people.
- 18:34And I think what you're doing is you're giving permission to other young women and people who
- 18:38are coming up that like, hey.
- 18:40Just because you look good in a bathing suit doesn't mean that you can't work on a
- 18:44motorcycle.
- 18:45Right?
- 18:46Exactly.
- 18:47Work on motorcycles that you can't wear a a bikini out when you're working on it.
- 18:51Right?
- 18:51So I I think what you're doing is really blazing a trail out there.
- 18:55Like you said, a lot of these contests that you're entering, you're most often the first
- 19:00woman to do so.
- 19:01And I think that what you're doing is changing the culture.
- 19:04And I have to imagine that a lot of the women in the culture, although you're gonna have some
- 19:08haters regardless of what you do.
- 19:10Right?
- 19:10The old Cat Williams line.
- 19:12If you don't have one, you better go find three more before the summer, that you you are
- 19:18empowering other women.
- 19:20And I think that as long as you stay focused on the people that you are helping and kinda just
- 19:25tuning out the other noise, that you're gonna continue to be extremely successful in your, in
- 19:31your field and as being a real pioneer in the culture of saying, no.
- 19:37You can look good and make really beautiful bikes too even if they come out a little rusty.
- 19:42Or
- 19:43Yeah.
- 19:44Yeah.
- 19:44That like, I I just want it to be a new motorcycle culture community of people that I
- 19:56can find somewhere because it's been so hard for me to find people that understand past
- 20:04motorcycle culture and trying to bring it into the future.
- 20:07There are so many new women riders.
- 20:10There are so many the the demographic is changing in Harley where and the bike scene.
- 20:19Harley's just got knocked down from being the number one bike bought in the past year, and it
- 20:27got overtaken by sports bikes.
- 20:29And a lot of women are riding sports bikes.
- 20:32And now Harley has now created some engines and some bikes that are more comfortable for women,
- 20:39and they're getting into that.
- 20:41And my friend Jess Ripps is taking is being the first to go across the 48 states in six days
- 20:48right now currently.
- 20:50And there it it's just an explosion of women into the scene right now, and I am loving it.
- 21:00Well, and a lot of them are creating content like yourself.
- 21:04And I think that was really cool for me being a content creator out at the Buffalo Chip, last
- 21:09year and kinda having the pass and especially getting to do the the creator meetup and
- 21:15getting to see so many of the females in the space that aren't just showing up to take
- 21:21pictures of bikes, but they are on their bikes and Yeah.
- 21:23You know, vlogging their way across the, you know, the Iron Pony show is a great example of
- 21:28that.
- 21:28And, yeah, chronicling her entire ride, the good and the bad.
- 21:33Right?
- 21:33And I think it's so cool to see the space really exploding.
- 21:38I look forward to a lot more of it because it that changes the culture.
- 21:42Right?
- 21:42That gives permission to others to do so.
- 21:46Mhmm.
- 21:47Yeah.
- 21:48I hope that I inspire other women.
- 21:50I hope that I don't, my thing is is if you see me building in a bikini and you think you can
- 21:57do better, I encourage you to.
- 21:59If you if you want to be a inspiration for young girls to be building bikes and but not
- 22:08scantily clad, do it.
- 22:11I encourage you to start a channel, to start building, to start doing all this because
- 22:17that's the lifeblood of the next generation is women building and women getting into this and
- 22:24women doing all this.
- 22:26And I'm just super excited to be at the forefront and be friends with all these girls
- 22:30that are like Axel Coe.
- 22:32Oh, amazing.
- 22:33She had Axel's hideout at that went around the ship.
- 22:36Got to meet all those wonderful ladies.
- 22:39There's the biker bells, the iron goddess shows.
- 22:44There it's just an amazing time to be in the women's motorcycle scene.
- 22:49Yeah.
- 22:49And last year, you know, having grown up, I've been to Sturgis so many times.
- 22:53Right?
- 22:54You know, a a couple of decades of living out there.
- 22:56And even when I'm not living, you know, I live five hours away from there now.
- 23:00We go back every single year.
- 23:01But last year was my first time as really a true content creator.
- 23:05Usually, I'm going out there with my band and I'm playing shows and I'm kind of in that world
- 23:09too where, like you, you always have something to do.
- 23:12Last year, it was my first time there as a a very conscious observer of that.
- 23:18And I think, something that I'm gonna make a concerted effort for this year is exactly all
- 23:23the things that you're talking about, to go and find the female builders in these shows and to
- 23:27really shine a light onto all of that because I think it's I think it's incredible.
- 23:33I I I really find it because I can't do it.
- 23:35Right?
- 23:35So you're out there doing something that me you know, I'm a a 40 year old man.
- 23:39I've never worked on a motorcycle, so you have these awesome skills that I never have.
- 23:43And I think just being a a woman and having a different brain, it it brings a different
- 23:49element to the building, not just the process, but to the design.
- 23:54And they're bringing a different brain to that and and a different mind.
- 23:58And I think that's, it gives an evolution now to the culture and a different way that we can,
- 24:04move this thing.
- 24:05And for someone like me who just appreciates the culture, it gives me more to appreciate.
- 24:11Right?
- 24:11So why wouldn't I want to see more of that?
- 24:14And and I understand that it's gonna come with its challenges inside of the culture because
- 24:17people don't like change, and people wanna keep things the way that they are.
- 24:23To me, that's not the way that we grow.
- 24:26That's not the way that we, you know, bring more people into the bike culture because right
- 24:32now, we're in a generational shift as well.
- 24:34A lot of the older, you know, riders are either, you know, passing away or just not able
- 24:40to ride and to take part in it.
- 24:42We need new blood in the culture to come in.
- 24:45And and if that's coming from the the the females in the inside of that and bringing more
- 24:51females into that, I think that's ultimately a great thing.
- 24:55So, yeah, the with the old blood dying stuff with also with all these parts is that's how we
- 25:01keep getting more and more and more parts because the old hats are just like, I can't go
- 25:06to these swap meets anymore and be sitting out here in the sun.
- 25:09Do you wanna buy my whole lot?
- 25:11And it's really unfortunate because there are a lot of times, it's like in Connecticut or
- 25:18somewhere else that we can't get to.
- 25:20And their families, they're they're like, my daughters, my sons are just gonna throw all
- 25:25this away.
- 25:27And that's where we're gonna lose so much in the next few generations if these young kids
- 25:32don't go out and just buy lots of part.
- 25:35Like, they literally, you can buy, like, probably this whole wall of bars from somebody
- 25:39for, like, $300 and resell it at double, triple, quadruple the price for each bar and
- 25:48then make your money back on selling two of them, and then you the rest is profit.
- 25:54Kids need to get into that because we are going to lose a bunch of parts into the junkyards or
- 26:01not even into junkyards, into the landfill because they're just their kids are straight up
- 26:06just taking it and throwing it away because they're like, oh, this is all junk.
- 26:10We don't need any of this stuff.
- 26:12Oh, it's just taking up space.
- 26:15Or, like, after they die, they're like, oh, grandpa was saving all this junk.
- 26:22And it's like, no.
- 26:22It's not junk.
- 26:24It's motorcycle parts.
- 26:27Like, there's pan head parts being thrown away, and that boggles my mind.
- 26:34Well and it's because they don't know.
- 26:36And I think that's why a a channel like yours and and and your your beauty is going to
- 26:43attract people to it just naturally.
- 26:45Right?
- 26:45So it's really awesome that you're using that, you know, your god given gifts, right, to
- 26:51attract more people in.
- 26:52And they may come for a a shot of your ass, but they stick around to find out more about some
- 26:58really awesome parts and maybe maybe learn a few things.
- 27:01I think that's, you know, something that you're able to use to your advantage and to educate a
- 27:07younger generation new writers or people that are just interested in it to kinda come in and
- 27:13and to help you preserve the old culture and to help move it forward?
- 27:20So people have called me a honeypot for that reason.
- 27:25I just wanna see a hot broad on a bike, and now I'm
- 27:29getting And then now I'm getting
- 27:30tan heads.
- 27:31What the hell?
- 27:32Yeah.
- 27:32Now I'm getting a lecture about how I should go out and buy motorcycle parts or how how the
- 27:38scene is changing or how women should be more respected or about how the light world is is
- 27:46right now with the technocratic government coming in and all of a sudden.
- 27:50It's just because I am very I'm I'm a huge anti government.
- 27:57Either way of the party that anyone wants to talk about, someone goes, oh, you're a
- 28:02republic.
- 28:02I'll sit and make a point.
- 28:03Oh, you're a republican.
- 28:04No.
- 28:05Oh, you're a liberal.
- 28:06No.
- 28:06I hate all government.
- 28:08I think it's in our business way too much.
- 28:10And what it's rolling into is even more with the flat cameras that you won't be able to do
- 28:17anything anywhere.
- 28:19The fully surveillance Wi Fi networks that are going up, the autonomous robots, all this stuff
- 28:26that is bringing us can bring us into a new future, but they are using it in a way to
- 28:32surveil the average person.
- 28:35And I feel like that was inherent.
- 28:37That anti establishment nature was inherent in the motorcycle culture You
- 28:42You would think.
- 28:43Fifty years ago.
- 28:44Right?
- 28:44And now it feels like it's faded away.
- 28:47It's very much faded away.
- 28:49People, I go, where are the real bikers?
- 28:51Because everyone's a bootlicker nowadays.
- 28:53And I go, you you made your bikes fast back in the days to run from the cops.
- 28:59Where's the disconnect here?
- 29:01Your moon shining, running the hills, ancestors would be turning in their graves.
- 29:11Oh, man.
- 29:12I don't know.
- 29:13Angel, do you feel like you're just from a a different time that you were, you know, maybe,
- 29:20and maybe not I don't wanna say, like, born in the wrong generation, but that you feel that
- 29:25and and I kinda get this vibe from you that you feel like it's your a little bit of your job
- 29:30because of this platform that you've kinda been given for whatever reason and that you continue
- 29:35to build.
- 29:36I don't wanna say that you were given.
- 29:37You've built it.
- 29:38Right?
- 29:38Like, you've built this for yourself.
- 29:39The grown up.
- 29:40I like kicking and scratching.
- 29:41Right.
- 29:42Right.
- 29:42But now that you have it, that you're using it to really, kind of try to bring the culture
- 29:48back to where it was and really, well, how I feel, where it should be.
- 29:52The bikers should be the outlaws.
- 29:54And and that's not to say that we can't respect our first responders and our police and things,
- 29:59but it's more of an attitude.
- 30:00Right?
- 30:01We're not saying that everyone has to go up there and make yourself an enemy of law
- 30:04enforcement, but there's an attitude that used to be there that just really isn't anymore.
- 30:10Yeah.
- 30:11ACAB all the way.
- 30:12I don't I I'm I I don't understand where that shift came from, but I, yeah, I do understand
- 30:20that it's been a huge SIOP to get it that way for what's coming.
- 30:26That's all I gotta say on that on your podcast.
- 30:29If you wanna hear
- 30:30more of Angel's conspiracy theories, then I wouldn't even call it her theories.
- 30:35Well, they made the they they created the names conspiracy theorists because people were right
- 30:40about stuff, and so they had to interject a word into society.
- 30:45The CIA created the word conspiracy theorist about people that now it's coming out they were
- 30:51right.
- 30:52They were true.
- 30:52It was true.
- 30:53So, like, it's not if you you can call me a conspiracy theorist, but that just means that
- 30:58I'm right.
- 31:01Well, Angel, I I appreciate you taking some time away from your beautiful bikes and all the
- 31:06work that you have to do out there.
- 31:08Spend a few minutes with me.
- 31:09It was such a pleasure getting to meet you last year in Sturgis.
- 31:13I hope we see you again back there this year as well.
- 31:16I know you'll be there in some capacity and around, so we'll definitely make sure that we
- 31:21connect while we're out there.
- 31:22Maybe get to do another chat and to shoot some content.
- 31:25And for now, anything else that you wanna plug and let people know about before I let you go?
- 31:31Check out strange days in New York, I believe, idle hands in New Jersey, I believe, and the
- 31:44Midwest cycle show in Wisconsin.
- 31:46I am going to be at all three of those events and possibly more around The United States.
- 31:51Check my schedule online when I drop it.
- 31:55And also check me out on my playboy, playboy.com/polkahotness.
- 32:04Well, so grateful to you for everything that you're doing to move the culture and, to
- 32:09continue to be an inspiration to, women inside of the motorcycle culture.
- 32:16And, keep doing exactly what you're doing.
- 32:18Can't wait to run into you and to see that beautiful bike that's in the background now all
- 32:22done hopefully Yeah.
- 32:24By the time I run into you in August.
- 32:26And thank you so much for being part of the scene.
- 32:29Thank you for having me.