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The Protection Nobody Talks About · Spiritual Sense: Practical wisdom to quiet an overthinking mind and recharge your soul

• 0:00
  Speaker A: We spend so much of our life trying to protect ourselves, trying to avoid problems, you know, thinking about a plan for our backup plan and a backup plan for that plan, and worrying about this, worrying about that, trying to avoid this situation, protecting ourselves, staying away from trouble because we're worried about something going wrong or maybe even getting into trouble. It depends on what you're doing. But a lot of the time there's. There's fear going on, trying to manage situations and make sure this doesn't happen, getting extra insurance if necessary, and locking this and trying this and doing all these different things because we're. We're worried. We're afraid something bad might happen. But what if there is a higher level of protection? What if there's something that is on a different scale entirely, and it's the really the only protection that we can rely on because all the things we do physically to avoid problems can all be taken away? So that's what we're getting into today. What is this deeper protection? What is it that you can do to make sure you're going to be all right no matter what happens in this crazy world that we live in that is constantly changing? So welcome to the podcast and many blessings.
• 1:24
  Speaker B: Many blessings to everyone and hello, Michael.
• 1:29
  Speaker A: Hello. Hello. This is an interesting topic. This is Shirin's idea. Why did you instigate this fascinating topic?
• 1:39
  Speaker B: One day recently, I got up with this thought. It's a Sanskrit saying from the Manusmriti. You know the Manusmriti? The scripture, The Vedic scripture. Manusmriti.
• 1:54
  Speaker A: Never heard of it.
• 1:55
  Speaker B: Never heard of it.
• 1:57
  Speaker A: No.
• 1:57
  Speaker B: Okay. There is a Vedic Vedas. No, no. It's like there's a lot of do's and don'ts in this, right? And a lot of you could say ancient Indian law was decided by the Manusmriti. Anyway, the manusmriti, what it says, I don't know why I got up with it, right? I just got up with this chant in my head, and it says, dharmo Rakshati Rakshatha. And I just got up with that chant. I got up and I was cooking and I was chanting it, and I was sitting down and chanting it, and I was like, I know what it means, but let me really sit down and have meditation and think about exactly what it means. And so what Dharmo rakshati Rakshata means those who protect Dharma get protected by it. So that's what it means. So I have a feeling I must have chanted this previously. That's why? It just came to me.
• 3:00
  Speaker A: So you weren't studying these ancient scriptures. They just came in your mind randomly in the morning?
• 3:05
  Speaker B: Yes, it just came. Dharma Rakshati Rakshata just came one morning I woke up with that thought. And so I really started looking into it, right? Since then, looking into deeply in my own heart, what exactly? I mean, when I say dharmo Rakshati rakshata, that is dharma that you live by will protect you. That's what it actually means, right? And so for me, what does it mean in my life right now, Right? So it could be very easy, right? You know, life could be very, very difficult or very easy, depending on what you do. But one of the things, the very easy slippery slope, right into adharma, which is just like not doing your duty, basically, not doing your. What is actually you're meant to do with life, what your, you know, what your purpose is in life. And it's very easy not to do that. And so what I've noticed is that even in spirituality, right, you could say, oh, but you found your calling. You're sitting there in a white sari. And that's true in a way, I did find my calling. But it's very easy to slip back, right? Waste my time, scroll, do that, do that. You know, all of those things. I could very easily slip back into things which are very not consistent. And also the other thing that could happen is it could be spirituality also can be very performative, right? Like, you're just doing it for other people. You're doing it to show off. You're doing all of those things. Don't you feel like. Have you felt in your life where you were slipping and, you know, things could be. Could have been performative.
• 5:05
  Speaker A: It's very easy to do it because of the environment, not for the heart. I mean, to be perfectly honest, I actually left England because I was concerned that I was doing that exact thing. I. I came back from India after five months away and mostly on my own. And I remember coming back in the bus after this long trip late at night, and I remember thinking, I'm not going to go to this meditation class in the morning because I come back late. And then I thought, well, what will people think if I'm not there? And. And I'm like. Like, what a bizarre thought that I'm. My reason to show up isn't because I'm going there because I choose to. It's because I'm worried about what someone will think if I'm not there. And that actually got me Thinking about whether or not I do the things I'm doing from my heart or whether I'm doing them out of some sort of peer pressure, because peer pressure is very powerful. So that I moved Hawaii and I can do anything I want. No one knows where I am in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of, you know, the ocean. And do I still get up at 4 o'? Clock? Do I still study all these different things? Do I still practice all this stuff, you know, and is it coming from a good place? And I. For me, it was important to figure out if I still want to do all these things when there's no peer pressure, because if I do, then there's a good reason for it, you know? Whereas if I'm. If I go to a different place and everything falls to pieces straight away, then how serious was I really?
• 6:41
  Speaker B: All right.
• 6:42
  Speaker A: I have had challenges along the way, but I've never given up on the. On the. On what I'm doing.
• 6:48
  Speaker B: Right. And the other thing I was thinking is, you know, like, currently, right. In my life or in your life? In our lives, how are we protecting Dharma? Or how are we.
• 7:01
  Speaker A: Actually, why don't we clarify what Dharma means? Because I'm not sure everyone knows what it means. I mean, I've written a book about this called the Dharma Keys. Why don't you share what you think it means? Dharma. What's the Dharma?
• 7:11
  Speaker B: The Dharma, like I mentioned just now, it is like your duty, right? Not just your duty, but your core purpose. That's. What is Dharma like, what is the sole purpose? That's Dharma. How about you?
• 7:29
  Speaker A: Yeah. Dharma is as a. There's no translation in English for Dharma proper. There's about 10 translations. But Dharma is our divine duty, our sacred duty. It's our. You could say it's our purpose, but it's deeper than that. It's. It's also. Dharma is. Is actually the thing that upholds the universe. That's how it's explained. It's. It's an energy that literally maintains the fabric of reality on some level. And so there's. If we're living in alignment with our Dharma, it's. It's not like my Dharma is to write books. That's. That's categorized as one particular type of action. Our Dharma is more like how we think, how we live, our overall vibe, the sort of things we do, sort of things we don't do. So it's. It's almost like our aligning to the highest right.
• 8:23
  Speaker B: Not just what I don't do or do, but Aligning what I'm doing, whatever is my karmas, to very high principles.
• 8:31
  Speaker A: And. And there's different dharmas depending on the person. So there's ad Dharma means it's against Dharma or lacking in Dharma. And then there's Swadharma, which is our self Dharma, our own Dharma. And we have to know what that is, because everyone's Dharma is a little bit different. So it's like, what is the highest version of my life and my way of being and my way of thinking? What is that? The true reality behind my life, and am I aligned with it? And if I am, then I'll feel good, I'll feel inspired, I'll feel happy, I'll feel joyful, and I'll feel relaxed. If I'm out of alignment with my Dharma, then I'll feel, you know, fearful, you know, stressed out, worried, and all these negative things. So it's like, this is. This is like, are we living in alignment or are we off on some crazy trip somewhere else, getting pulled into other people's Dharma or into some. Something unhealthy?
• 9:39
  Speaker B: The other things I was thinking, right, is not just something being performative, but also if I have a commitment, right? Like, recently someone came to me and said, I told someone, I'll come to their house and set up the tv, but it's really late. I don't want to go. And everyone around were like, and it's about 40 minutes away. And everyone around were like, yeah, don't go. Don't go. I said, no. If you said you would go, you should go. Right? That is protecting your dharma. Is protecting your word is protecting your Dharma. If you gave your word for something, you just do it. However inconvenient it is or however late it is or whatever is happening, right? That is what is protecting of Dharma.
• 10:33
  Speaker A: Yes. Integrity. With our. With our Dharma. As long as the things we've agreed to are our Dharma in the first place. Because a lot of people setting up.
• 10:43
  Speaker B: A TV is not necessarily. Not Dharma or Dharma. But you gave your word to do something to someone, right?
• 10:50
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 10:52
  Speaker B: And another thing I was thinking about is lying. Like, I see people lie about little things, and it's just convenient to lie. Sometimes I don't want to talk to someone. I just tell them, oh, I have to go. You know, I have a call or something. And maybe I wasn't lying in that case, in that situation because I had a call like, three hours later. But, you know. You know what I mean? I wonder at that moment.
• 11:26
  Speaker A: I wonder is contextual, though, isn't it? You know, it's like, right, if you. If your dharma is to be of service to people and do us have a certain life and be do the things that only you can do uniquely, and someone comes along and is not totally preventing you, preventing you from doing the highest use of your time, then whatever you need to do to get out of it, it would be your dharma, wouldn't it? Because it would be out of alignment for you to waste your time randomly talking to people just. And not being able to do something else. Because every yes is a no, and every no is a yes. And so living our dharma is saying yes to our Dharma.
• 12:12
  Speaker B: Because I wondered. I was like. I mean, it was not immediately, but it was a few hours later, but I still had to prep for the call. I really had to prep for the call. But anyway, so lying about things, performative, you know, keeping our word. And also, I feel like nowadays, right, people make a lot of enemies, unnecessary enemies, and then they have to protect themselves from those enemies. Like the promotion you want, right? If you're stepping over and throwing people under the bus because you want the promotion and you go get it, I feel that's not protecting your dharma. That's not going to protect you. Eventually people might say, hey, but, you know, people who do things like that are the ones who win, who get the promotion, who make more money, all of that. And yes, this is exactly what this Dharma Rakshati Rakshita is saying is. The one who protects Dharma will get protected by it is eventually, if you protect Dharma, eventually you will get protected by it. In the short term, yes, they might make the promotion. They might get more money. They might do all of those things. But, you know, are they having, you know, a good night's sleep or, you know, are they really at peace with what they are doing? I don't think so. They created a lot more enemies. Now they have to, you know, look out for these enemies. What do you think about this when people tell you, oh, but that's just very naive?
• 13:57
  Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's just levels of consciousness is where people are coming from, really. In the long. We have to think about the long. The long run. You know, that in the long term, even if we don't get what we want right away, it will work out if we follow our Dharma in. In eventually. And it might not be that long either. It's not like indefinitely. We have to suffer through things. How I think about dhar is it's. It's our code of conduct. It's doing what is the highest align aligned actions and thoughts and vibrations. So, for example, our dharma as spiritual people, spiritual yogi beings, is to have good wishes and pure feelings for everyone. To have good attitude and vibrations towards everyone, so everyone gets blessings. You know, to have a meditation, to have remembrance, remember God, to be of service, you know, to eat proper food that's good for us. To not do stupid things that are harmful, not to hurt anyone else, not. Not to be violent towards anything or ourselves. So if we're living in those net overall way, then we're aligned with our dharma. And eventually that will pay off, you know, in one way or the other. But if we get off track and start defaming people and giving them a hard time and doing stuff that's harmful for us or hurting other people or thinking short term, we're just gonna get hit by stuff from. From all that stuff sooner or later. And I think of it like one, is, what are my talents and skills which are gifts from God? Because I. If my dharma is to use those in a worthwhile way? So for me, dharma means use everything in a worthwhile way. So what are the things that have been been given to me as a gift? Am I using that in a worthwhile way? Who am I here to help in the world? Because I'm not here to help everyone, realistically, because there's too many people, because I can't help everyone. I can give blessings. But who am I here to serve and what can I help them with? That's how I think about it. And if you have these, all these things. So it's like one is, what are we? What are we most inspired by? What are our skills and talents? Number two, who are we here to help and what are we here to help them with? And if you combine those four circles together, in the middle is our Dharma. And that will lead to success. It will lead to success. But if I'm not, I feel that.
• 16:33
  Speaker B: Too, not only it'll lead to success, what this is saying is it'll actually protect you because we are coming into very unprecedented times, right?
• 16:44
  Speaker A: Right.
• 16:44
  Speaker B: Totally. And anything can happen any minute. And it has been proven, right? Like whether it is natural calamities. Like I was recently reading just two days ago, the stats on natural calamities. 90% of the United States has been affected by some kind of natural disaster, which it hasn't been in the past in the last five, six years. Right? And so everywhere you go, it's extreme weather or some kind of calamity or, you know, just wars. And you Know, financial, whatever, all of this is happening, right? And I really feel that we are coming into this very difficult time. And in this time, more than anything else, Dharma is the one that's going to protect us.
• 17:41
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's true. It's true. Because these are unprecedented and unpredictable times. It really is. Things are kind of cruising along and then all of a sudden, boom. Some crazy thing comes out of nowhere.
• 17:53
  Speaker B: I want to share a story about Brahma Baba. I don't know. I've shared this with you before, but Brahma Baba was a very well respected man in the Sindhi community, you know, in Sindh, right? Which is right now part of Pakistan. So he was a very well respected man. He had a very big jewelry business. And in his community, he was very loved and respected and all of that. And then he started advocating women leaders. This very traditional community. In this very traditional community, right? And the husbands and the fathers of these young girls were not happy. Absolutely not happy. So there were several assassination attempts on Brahma Baba because they weren't happy with him because he was saying all these. He was going against the whole society at that point, right? And so several assassination attempts. And this is one of the assassination attempts that happened on Brahma Baba. So the assassin came to assassinate Brahma Baba and he was in the courtyard and Brahma Baba sensed something and he just went into meditation and he started remembering God and everyone. They were doing things, right? All over the community, they were doing things like in the. In the compound, right? Some people were washing clothes, some people were cooking, some people were whatever. And some of these souls were immediately given a thought, right? Go to Brahma Baba. So a few of them, about 10 of them came and surrounded Brahma Baba. And so by the time the assassin could come close to Brahma Baba, Baba was surrounded by these people. So he got scared and he left, right? And Brahma Baba said, bring toli. And he gave toli to all of the people. And then later, how do we know this happened? All of the people who surrounded him got toli. And then everyone went off on their business. And then Brahma Baba was sitting and studying at night alone. And this assassin came back and he saw light everywhere. And he came and he really asked for forgiveness of Brahma Baba. He told him what happened the previous day. He came and, you know, all these people were surrounding and all of that. And then Brahmabha again said, here, take some toli. And he went off. The assassin was of course forgiven. And he went off and he didn't assassinate Baba. And later Brahma Baba said something. He said, virtue is your only protection. And so because of Brahma Baba's virtue, he didn't need, like, this extensive alarm system and this and that. I'm not saying don't have it. I mean, definitely, like, we have an alarm system. You know, do whatever you need to protect. But eventually, right? When the robber hits the road, eventually your virtue, your dharma will protect you like it protected Brahma Baba. He later spoke about this, right? And he said that the different virtues. These people had different virtues. They came and surrounded him and protected him. It was not even that people came and surrounded him. Their virtues came and protected him. Right. It's very deep, right? When you are in virtue, you don't know how protection will come, in what form it will come, Right. We can't keep living. Of course, we need to have a backup plan. But not only we have a backup plan, we have a backup plan for the backup plan. Then we have a backup plan for the backup plan. And then we have anxiety about the backup plans. And then we have this and we have that. All of those are optional. If you live in virtue, if you live in dharma, those. You don't need hundred backup plans. You just need one backup plan.
• 22:45
  Speaker A: In the. Yeah. In the long run, everything can fall apart anyway. You know, there could be crazy weather or there could be bombs. I mean, we don't know nothing's happened to America so far. But, you know, there's plenty of enemies to America nowadays.
• 23:00
  Speaker B: We are actively seeking them also right now. But, yeah, there's.
• 23:04
  Speaker A: Yeah. So it's. We just don't know. And also, as separate from natural calamities and enemies, our own body can fail as well. So we just don't know. So these. This is a very, very deep thing. I mean, we're not saying. Just to be clear, we're not saying don't save any money and don't lock your car door and don't do any. You know, because that's. That's inviting trouble. You know, like if you're in San Francisco, downtown, I've been there, and I've seen people walking along, opening all the doors until they find a car with something in it and then robbing it. So if you're in a situation like that, then obviously lock your car. But on a deeper level, in the long run, it's going to be our karma, our dharma that protects us and really nothing else in the end. Because all these unexpected things can happen.
• 23:58
  Speaker B: You know, life has a way of really surprising you. You have all of these plans and then one day just surprises you.
• 24:07
  Speaker A: Even if we have plans, we don't.
• 24:09
  Speaker B: Follow any stories.
• 24:12
  Speaker A: Our own.
• 24:12
  Speaker B: No. Like, even if you follow them. Right. I know people, right. Like, design their life this way and that way and that way and this way, and they should be this way. And, you know, I should get married by this age and I should do this and I should do that, and the children should be born this way and that way. Did it all work out? No, it didn't work out. They had plans and they wanted to do it, but it didn't work out because there was so many curve balls that came.
• 24:42
  Speaker A: Yeah. And we have to ask, are the plans themselves really the best plans? Because if. If our plans are not actually aligned with our dharma, then even if we achieve what we want, it doesn't make any difference. Doesn't make. It doesn't help us really in the long run. So. Yeah. And frankly, planning things out for like 5, 10 years is obscene. It's just absurd. You know, I think it's good to have a plan for about three months. Good to have like a two or three year plan and then like a three month plan. But you just don't know what's going to happen three months practically until you get closer to him. So, yes, we have to have a general. What is the general movement of our life? Are we aligned with it? And something that I've been really getting into recently is we have goals, which the goals need to be based on our dharma, otherwise, what's the point in having them? And then how do we align our actual life today with the goal? So, for example, if my goal is to be in a higher state of consciousness and be in a spiritual state of happiness and peace, that's a nice goal. But what am I doing now to advance that experience? What are my practices? Am I doing my practices? How can I do more of them today? Not in six months time or not. Because if I think, oh, by the time I die, everything will be fine. How is it going to be fine if I'm not doing anything about it now? So we have to have a goal, and then we have to connect it to our daily life. This sounds obvious, but you'd be surprised how many people have nice ideas, goals, and. And you say, well, what are you doing about it today? And they say, well, you know, I'm busy. And then you. Then I see him in like six months. I'm like I said, how is things moving towards that thing that you want? Well, you know.
• 26:48
  Speaker B: Maybe they don't want it. That Badly.
• 26:50
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So we have to. Our dharma doesn't mean anything if it's not connected to our life now. You know, it can't just be an abstract idea that I'm going to be this peaceful person or I'm gonna be of service to other people if we're not doing anything about it. So dharma happens in the now, in the moment. It's. So it's. It really. We have a choice again and again, what is my dharma, first of all? And then am I living in alignment with it right now in whatever situation I'm in?
• 27:20
  Speaker B: So in your book, what do you say about living your dharma? How do you practice it?
• 27:29
  Speaker A: We need to know what it is, first of all.
• 27:33
  Speaker B: And that requires for you, right?
• 27:36
  Speaker A: Yes. I have three main things that I feel like. My dharma, in essence, is to advance my state of consciousness by having remembrance and doing all these different practices and. And living in my dharma and my dharana. Dharana means, you know, the virtues. And so I'm trying. My life is about living my dharma as best I can, just overall. And that includes my state of mind, how I'm feeling, how I relate to people. It also includes being of service to people, which is why we do these podcasts and meditations and courses and all these things. And it also includes work that I'm doing because I need to pay for all this. These things. So that's. So I know what my dharma looks like, and I know what it is, because I've thought very deeply about this. But then practically, what I do is I have a. I have some paper, and every. Actually, nowadays, I've gone beyond the paper, and now I schedule in my calendar. So if I'm going to live according to my dharma, what am I doing in the morning that's aligned with my dharma and I? So in the morning practices, meditation, study, and all these things, and then I'm working on projects that are aligned with my dharma. Then I'm going to take a walk and go for it, go out into nature, which I. It's aligned with my dharma to be in nature, to have meditation, not to be stuck in the house, you know, and then how can I do more things? How can I keep a chart? So I try and think, what is my big dharma? And what does that practically look like on a daily basis? And. And that also includes what I don't do as well as what I do do.
• 29:19
  Speaker B: Yeah, right. That's very important. Right? Because, like, people think, oh, 10 minutes, and it could just go on forever. 10 minutes. Scrolling right. I calculated yesterday I was telling people 10 minutes of scrolling a day adds up to 60 hours a year. But 10 minutes scrolling a day, time wasted.
• 29:42
  Speaker A: But it's not going to be 10 minutes a day, is it? 10 minutes scrolling a day?
• 29:45
  Speaker B: No, never. No one ever stops at 10 minutes. Like just today, someone was telling me they're so. They get so addicted that they sit down and initially they can just get up, right? Then after a while, they can't even physically get up. That's how addictive it is.
• 30:03
  Speaker A: I know someone, she told me she. She started in the morning at 8 o' clock and couldn't get out of bed till 2pm every day. And I understand, you know, so. So our dharma. So the thing is, you have to remember just to go on to this topic briefly is that in Harry Potter, we love Harry Potter, they have defense against the dark arts, right?
• 30:28
  Speaker B: Oh, my God, the darkest arts these days. Absolutely.
• 30:31
  Speaker A: Right. But in. When it comes to clicking on these addictive algorithms, there's no defense against the first click. Like, once you click on it, there's no defense that. This is why one minute turns into six hours or an hour. So there's actually no defense. It's like soon, as soon as you click the thing, then the trance, the curse comes, and the trance comes, and then an hour disappears and then we come out and go, what happened to the time? Oh, my God. So there's. There's no defense against the dark arts in this case. So the only thing to do is don't, don't click. Don't go through the door into the.
• 31:13
  Speaker B: Yeah, delete the apps. You know, coming back to this, right? Coming back to what is your dharma, is I was thinking about even understanding, understanding my time, the value of my time, understanding the value of myself as a person. And I feel if you do things against your value, right? Like spend six hours scrolling, it's totally against your values. Should be. Anyway, who has six hours to spend? But whatever it is, right? We think that six hours is just coming free, right? It's okay, six hours gone. Tomorrow another six hours comes. No, it doesn't work that way. It comes with a lot of loss of self respect, a lot of loss of dignity, a lot of loss of self trust. Is that worth it? Like, you feel terrible, and that is really against dharma. I feel the practice of dharma really begins with making sure you're using your time in a worthwhile way.
• 32:25
  Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Because the only way to tell whether it is worthwhile way is if it's our Dharma that, that's what it means, isn't it? So you have to figure out what is your Dharma, and I'll give you a hint. Everyone's dharma is something to do with helping other people. It's always to do with being of service and coming from a higher state in one way or the other. So it's not like my dharma happens to be higher states of consciousness and being observed. It's like everyone's dharma is really the same thing. Actually, I haven't.
• 32:55
  Speaker B: Just like my dharma is to sit and read books.
• 32:57
  Speaker A: Oh, I'm just gonna sit around and, you know, so. But. But the way you do it, the way you express your dharma, is going to be through your own specialties, your own skills, talents, and experience and life path. You know, so there's. There's certain things that I can do because of my experience in life that allow me to be of service in a very unique, particular way because of my experiences. And everyone else has their own kind of collection of things that make their expression of that different from anyone else in the world. So it's always to do with service, and it's always going to be to do with a certain lifestyle and way of being that. That is supportive of the whole. So if we're. If we're harming people, if we're actually causing people sorrow, making them upset and wrecking their life, or hurting our own mind, our own body, that's not. That's not Dharma. That's called adharma. That's the opposite of Dharma. And we don't want to do that because it means we'll suffer. That's why we don't want to do it.
• 34:05
  Speaker B: And now, more than that, Right? What we are saying is you protect your dharma, you live by Dharma, and it will protect you. Right. This is ancient wisdom. People have implemented this and lived by this and been protected by it forever and ever and ever. You know, sometimes I feel we live with the thing that no one else ever lived and no one else ever had any problems, right?
• 34:34
  Speaker A: Oh, no one else. Yeah. It's almost like. Like people nowadays think that everyone in the past didn't know anything about anything.
• 34:41
  Speaker B: That didn't know anything about anything.
• 34:43
  Speaker A: It's not proven by science. I bet you there's going to be sooner or later. Some scientists and popular psychologists will prove that if you live your Dharma, you're protected through some study. Do you know what I mean? And then everyone will go, well, we should all be living our Dharma then.
• 34:56
  Speaker B: Right? Right. You know, I have nephews who are teenagers, right? And they know everything. They know everything. And they want to tell me about everything you know, including, you know, including random things like conditioner on your hair. Right. So. And I was thinking, this is how it is. Like when people nowadays think nothing happened ever in the past and no one ever lived and no one ever had anything. Well, we are here to tell you, people lived. And people lived very happy lives. People lived in very advanced civilizations in India especially, and other places too, like Egypt and Rome and all of that. They lived in very advanced civilizations, and they had very good lives. And they lived by these principles. They lived by these principles. So they work. So if you protect Dharma, Dharma protects you.
• 35:56
  Speaker A: So there it is. You've got a blessing about Dharma in your special book.
• 36:02
  Speaker B: I don't know. What do you think?
• 36:04
  Speaker A: I don't think there is one called Dharma, is there?
• 36:07
  Speaker B: No, there is no. There is one called dharma.
• 36:10
  Speaker A: Let's do 97.
• 36:19
  Speaker B: Surrender foreign. This is God's blessing for you. Surrender you. The soul resonate with tranquility. You've attained this serene state by surrendering to God's guidance and embracing it in every aspect of your life. Your presence is a lighthouse of serenity. But those seeking enlightened freedom.
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  Speaker A: Thank you. That's what happens when you live your Dharma.
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  Speaker B: Your presence become a lighthouse of serenity for those seeking enlightened freedom. Thank you for your presence, Brother Michael. I'm very happy to be doing this podcast with you and yes, everyone for listening.
• 37:19
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