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Paradise Suspicions · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today's edition
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  Speaker 2: is the Bachelor in Paradise episode to breakdown, Ben, what.
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  Speaker 3: Was your initial what's your initial takeaway?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly or just no, honestly because I always ask you
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  Speaker 2: this question when I'm disappointed in an episode.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's having a hard time
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  Speaker 4: living up to the Golden Bachelor.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a hard competition between the two, and
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  Speaker 4: I think Paradise had to step up. It is gonna
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  Speaker 4: have to step up its game. And I felt like
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  Speaker 4: this episode, now episode one, was.
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  Speaker 3: It episode one?
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  Speaker 5: I liked Episode one?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I felt like this episode, if you
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  Speaker 4: really talk about it, didn't have a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: No, And I think about the things that happened, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, we dragged that out. We dragged that over
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  Speaker 2: two hours.
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  Speaker 4: And it felt like it like it felt like when
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  Speaker 4: I watched it, it felt like it was dragged out
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  Speaker 4: for two hours. Now, this isn't me saying I'm giving
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  Speaker 4: up on the show. This isn't me saying, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: I'll never watch. It's just me saying I thought this episode,
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  Speaker 4: with all the storylines that were kind of built in
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  Speaker 4: episode one, yeah, yeah, kind of like fizzled those storylines
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  Speaker 4: out to be nothings. And that was that was hard
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  Speaker 4: to watch because I just I don't know what I
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  Speaker 4: picked from it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what I really was craving was somebody walking down
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  Speaker 2: the stairs. I know even did at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the episode. But it's like, okay, so the even thing good.
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  Speaker 2: But now like, let's just get to the rose ceremony
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  Speaker 2: and get new people in because there's not again, there's
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  Speaker 2: not a ton of drama that's going to be created
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  Speaker 2: with the bunch right now because there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people who are coupled up, but they're coupled up
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  Speaker 2: in like relationships that you know, they apparently aren't one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent thrilled by, because when Hannah Brown comes down
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  Speaker 2: and ask them some questions just we'll get to in
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  Speaker 2: a minute.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of them were like, oh, but I'm open,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm open, but I'm open.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, so let's get these people open. As
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  Speaker 2: a view as a viewer, I love it when people
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  Speaker 2: walk down the stairs. As a participant, it was the
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  Speaker 2: worst thing ever.
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  Speaker 5: Not great.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we are going to break it down right here.
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  Speaker 4: Let's start with this. You know, Will so far has
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  Speaker 4: had a shockingly large part in this show. I'd say, Will, Kylie,
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  Speaker 4: and Olivia are are really the focus so far, and
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  Speaker 4: it is an intriguing kind of love square at this point.
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  Speaker 4: The square well, because you've got Kylie Avin, You've got
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  Speaker 4: Olivia Avan, you got Kylie and Will's history, or you
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  Speaker 4: got Kylie and Will's history, you got Olivian Will's history.
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  Speaker 5: Like there's just a lot there.
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  Speaker 2: They're very brief history, because brief history one day history.
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  Speaker 3: But that's what happens in Paradise.
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  Speaker 4: But you I mean, I think we said it last
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  Speaker 4: week and I think we could probably predict it Will
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  Speaker 4: was gonna get Will especially was going to get the
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  Speaker 4: short end here, like he was definitely gonna be the
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  Speaker 4: one left out. Now, you know, Olivia has a big personality.
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  Speaker 4: She's beautiful, she's funny.
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  Speaker 3: She's funny and scary.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, but she's she has kind of
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  Speaker 4: gotten the raw of the deal twice now where she's
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  Speaker 4: felt like something good is happening and then it doesn't,
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  Speaker 4: and it just so happens to be that Kylie is
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  Speaker 4: the one involved in both those scenarios. We figured though
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  Speaker 4: Olivia would be around for a bit.
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  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 4: I just thought, you know, Will was gonna get left
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  Speaker 4: out because I think Will was excited and shortsighted in
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  Speaker 4: his decision to go on a date with Kylie. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that gets proven during this episode where he
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  Speaker 4: had a good thing going to Olivia. Olivia was into him.
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  Speaker 4: Olivia was saying, Hey, this is awesome and this is magical,
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  Speaker 4: and like we should give this a shot, and then
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  Speaker 4: Kylie shows interest in him and he bounces, and it
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  Speaker 4: felt like the beach. Most people on the beach had
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  Speaker 4: kind of already known that Kylie was gonna be like
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  Speaker 4: was waiting for Avan, like like there was nobody that
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  Speaker 4: was going to get in between her and Avn.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about Avan getting down. The stairs
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  Speaker 2: comes down Kylie left off last episode. He only, from
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  Speaker 2: what we see, pulls Olivia and Kylie aside a chat
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  Speaker 2: with them.
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  Speaker 3: Do you believe that it was only those two?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. You would know better me. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know how that was.
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  Speaker 2: I would know better, but I and I say yes,
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  Speaker 2: I say he probably did. But for TV's sake, it's
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  Speaker 2: best to just see them go head to head and
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  Speaker 2: he asked Kylie to go. When Kylie gets asked to
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  Speaker 2: go on the date pretty much with just like Will
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  Speaker 2: just sitting there and she's like yes, like one percent,
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  Speaker 2: Like the girl has left Will mentally one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: They go on the date. It seems cute.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to see more of it because all we
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  Speaker 2: see is like him not being able to pop the champagne,
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  Speaker 2: which was kind of hilarious, and then they're just like
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  Speaker 2: on the boat and they're kind of giggling a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but there's like not a ton There wasn't a ton
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  Speaker 2: of contacts with them.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't leave that date, at least I didn't leave
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  Speaker 4: that date being like, oh my gosh, their chemistry is
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  Speaker 4: so power exactly.
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  Speaker 5: There's a physical attraction.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's obvious, and it's an easy flirt when
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  Speaker 4: I think they've been flirting for a while even though
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  Speaker 4: they haven't met in person necessarily ojis, through emojis, through emojis.
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  Speaker 4: There was a weird part Ashley that stood out to
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  Speaker 4: me where and I could just be reading in this stuff,
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  Speaker 4: but she says that she, you know, visited San Diego
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  Speaker 4: kind of like hinting at hey, like, I'm ready for
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  Speaker 4: a move.
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  Speaker 5: I'm up for anything.
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  Speaker 3: Did she wanted she wants to move to him already?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like first date? Like, and he goes, when was that?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, in the back of my mind, you
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  Speaker 4: and I both know how this world works.
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  Speaker 3: He totally knew what it was. He knew what it was,
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  Speaker 3: and he's acting like he doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: So what else are they acting like they don't know
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  Speaker 4: about each other?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think they've met in real life before?
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  Speaker 5: Right now?
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  Speaker 4: I have no basis for this, but like, as a fan, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I think they have. I think they have, and I
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  Speaker 4: think they've kept it semi secret.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why she's gone, Yeah, that's why she's making
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  Speaker 2: so many points to be like, oh, we've talked only
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram, but it's like not even messages. It's just
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  Speaker 2: like he's liking my pictures.
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  Speaker 3: And fire signs.
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  Speaker 4: I think they both had the same story coming down.
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  Speaker 4: I think they both committed to this story. I think
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  Speaker 4: they talked about what they would say about it, and
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  Speaker 4: I think they have met.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't know this again, good work.
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  Speaker 3: Not yeah, but yeah, you're just coming up with speculative narratives.
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  Speaker 5: And is it that big a deal if they have no,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care at all, but it is still it
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  Speaker 4: makes it does I will say this, it does because
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  Speaker 4: I do know Olivia has been I think she has
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  Speaker 4: fun being outspoken. I think she has fun kind of
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  Speaker 4: being an instigator when it comes to Kylie. I think
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  Speaker 4: she has kind of felt like, oh my gosh, you know, Kylie,
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  Speaker 4: just continue to step on the people that I'm in to.
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  Speaker 4: I will say if Kylie went on a date with
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  Speaker 4: Will and she knew this all along, that she was
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  Speaker 4: going to be into Avan and that he was coming
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  Speaker 4: into this beach because they have talked, then I am
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  Speaker 4: on Olivia's side saying why did you go on this
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  Speaker 4: date with Will? Then like, why would you do this
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  Speaker 4: if you knew how this was going to play out?
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  Speaker 4: Because all I did is hurt one guy and step
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of something that I was excited about.
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  Speaker 3: Kylie had a date card.
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  Speaker 2: They gave her the date card for a reason because
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  Speaker 2: they knew that Evan was going to come down, but
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  Speaker 2: she wasn't going to have the opportunity to use it
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  Speaker 2: on a date with.
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  Speaker 5: Him, so she kind of felt like, Hey, who's there?
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  Speaker 3: They put her in a position.
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  Speaker 5: They did put her in a position. Well, she fell
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  Speaker 5: into that position too.
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  Speaker 3: What is she to do? She's going to lead every
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  Speaker 3: guy on, She's going to take on the date.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, I guess that is true. But there
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  Speaker 4: were some guys that were not maybe in flirtatious relationships
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  Speaker 4: at that point after that. Yeah, but you know, I
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  Speaker 4: get it, I understand it. I see where this. I
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  Speaker 4: see how she probably didn't have a great option. I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure that's a really tough scenario to be in and
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  Speaker 4: kind of playing the game a little bit. It would
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  Speaker 4: have been hard for her to be like, Okay, what
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  Speaker 4: guy here could I take on a date that I'm
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  Speaker 4: probably not going to be interested in that's not going
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  Speaker 4: to fall in love with me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Will seems to fall in love quite easily.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna talk about Will. I have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of thoughts on Will.
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  Speaker 3: He's a sweet guy.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, and just a bit.
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  Speaker 4: But even and Kylie go on their date, it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: she Kylie's talking about one babies and moving to San Diego.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is moving fast. This is furious. I
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  Speaker 4: can't see how this ends anyway other than either the
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  Speaker 4: two of them being together or the two of them
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  Speaker 4: having the saddest breakup on the beach of all time,
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  Speaker 4: because she is in it. And even as I mean
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  Speaker 4: even during you know, Rach Rachel's season or yeah, Rachel's season,
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  Speaker 4: he's not one that we got a lot of emotion
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  Speaker 4: out of. He didn't share a lot, would incredibly look
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  Speaker 4: good looking, So like, I'm not shocked that he's not
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  Speaker 4: over there being like, yeah, Kayle, he's the one. I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna make babies with her and have her moved to
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  Speaker 4: San Diego. She's definitely the one to say that. But
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  Speaker 4: we flashed back to the beach.
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  Speaker 3: We got like a little update on everyone, you know.
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  Speaker 5: We just do a little update, and and here's the relationships.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, I kind of want to skim through this because
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel like any of these relationships there's.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing of substance much except for maybe Eliza and Aaron.
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  Speaker 4: I would actually say Eliza and Aaron is one. Eliza
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  Speaker 4: is just I mean, for two seasons of the row,
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  Speaker 4: She's gonna go down as one of the most likable
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  Speaker 4: characters in Paradise.
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  Speaker 6: She is very sweet, well she wasn't like she is sweet,
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  Speaker 6: but like, I don't know about likable because we all
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  Speaker 6: got pretty frustrated with her last season.
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  Speaker 4: We did, but it's I mean, did we get frustrated
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  Speaker 4: with her because of her or just because of how
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  Speaker 4: Paradise worked out for her?
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  Speaker 5: I mean Paradise is a weird.
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  Speaker 3: Switching back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's kind of what Paradise is, right,
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  Speaker 4: and that's probably why at the end she wasn't committed
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  Speaker 4: or secure and the relationship she had, because she's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I've been switching back and forth, Like I'm not going
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  Speaker 4: to switch back and forth with the person that I
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  Speaker 4: believe I'll be with for the rest.
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  Speaker 5: Of my life.
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  Speaker 2: She's super scared about switching back and forth this season,
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  Speaker 2: to the point where when she finds out that Aaron
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  Speaker 2: had made out with Mercedes the night before, she was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like reevaluating even like talking to you, because that's
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  Speaker 2: how much she wants to stay out of drama.
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  Speaker 4: And I get it, right, I mean, I'm sure she's
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  Speaker 4: thought about this for last year. Well, you know, Blake
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  Speaker 4: and Jests are together. Here's a relationship that I think
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  Speaker 4: is going to be very interesting to watch.
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  Speaker 2: It's so weird, Like it's weird, like like I said
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  Speaker 2: last week, I just felt like she was so innocent,
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  Speaker 2: and from what we know, he's not.
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  Speaker 3: But it seems also like he is.
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  Speaker 5: He's bringing out a different Sel a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Like warmer and sweeter this season, like a different, a
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  Speaker 2: different Blake. I like him so much right now.
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  Speaker 5: Her love on Blake right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kat and Brayden is an interesting relationship to me.
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  Speaker 4: I just get the sense right now that that relationship
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  Speaker 4: ends really sadly, that there's a lot of tears, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of confusion, that it's one of those Bachelor
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  Speaker 4: in Paradise relationships where they've been together for so many
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  Speaker 4: weeks and they're kind of happy, go lucky, and everything's fine,
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  Speaker 4: and then something happens. I just get this feeling because
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  Speaker 4: of the hints that the show is giving us, the
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  Speaker 4: one liners that are shown from each of them. They're
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  Speaker 4: chemistry together. That something happens in paradise between the two
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  Speaker 4: of them and their relationship does not make it well.
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  Speaker 3: It's also because of social media.
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  Speaker 2: She said something on social media and then he clapped
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  Speaker 2: back at her this week, So I do think it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna end dirty, But right now they're just really beautiful together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean right now, it is. They're both very
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  Speaker 4: good looking people. They seem very into each other.
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  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just I just want to talk to Braiden.
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  Speaker 4: I've been a'll talk to Welles about this. Wells really
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  Speaker 4: likes Braiden.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks. He's a great dude.
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  Speaker 4: You know they're making out in the pool when he
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  Speaker 4: has this rubber ducky earring that's just kind of flapping around, hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: It just it just feels like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to I just would love to have
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  Speaker 2: gone earring shopping with him for Paradise.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: That would have been hilarious because you know, he was like,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of irreverent earrings can I yet?
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  Speaker 3: And he got a rubber ducky for the pool. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 5: It is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see anything else to bring up.
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  Speaker 4: There isn't relationalipship wise, that's intriguing. I think it all
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  Speaker 4: gets and at this point in the episode, we're watching
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  Speaker 4: these relationships, we're getting an update on these relationships, as
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  Speaker 4: you said, and we haven't gotten to the fire pits scene,
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  Speaker 4: which I think is the pivotal moment in this episode,
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  Speaker 4: is where Hannah comes down. Everybody's wondering if she's going
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  Speaker 4: to date or not, which is just you're just.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about this.
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  Speaker 2: This is so freaking strange, Like this was this was
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  Speaker 2: so unnecessary. It's like fifteen minutes of unnecessary content. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm exaggerating with the time. It was probably like seven minutes.
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  Speaker 2: But they have Hannah come down. They want the audience
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  Speaker 2: to think that she's going to come and date people.
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  Speaker 2: But I'd say seventy five percent of the audience knows
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  Speaker 2: that she's in a very serious relationship. And well, at
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  Speaker 2: this point she's now engaged, but at the time of
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  Speaker 2: filming she wasn't. But she has been with her boyfriend
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  Speaker 2: for like two years. They live together. People who are
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  Speaker 2: really fans of the franchise like they know it and
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  Speaker 2: they're like, this is silly. But they do seem to
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  Speaker 2: maybe get the cast to believe that she is dating.
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  Speaker 2: But they should have thrown them off when she was
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  Speaker 2: taking guys two at a time. And the whole spectacle
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  Speaker 2: is just to like add a little terror into the
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  Speaker 2: minds and hearts of the women.
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  Speaker 4: And it it felt it felt unbelievable to me, not
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  Speaker 4: and like, oh, this is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: It was not a believable moment at any level.
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  Speaker 4: Now, the other side of this was they, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Hannah Brown is a big deal.
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  Speaker 5: She is a big deal. She's a Dancing with the
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  Speaker 5: Stars champion.
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  Speaker 4: She obviously was on the show with the Navy Seals
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  Speaker 4: and one that she obviously was a bachelor ight at
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  Speaker 4: one point had a huge storyline there in a very
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  Speaker 4: successful season.
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  Speaker 5: I have I have zero doubt that.
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  Speaker 4: We put Hannah Brown out there with the most five
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  Speaker 4: most recognizable bachelorettes of all time.
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  Speaker 2: I would say that, I would say bachelor can test
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  Speaker 2: like franchise conssurance.
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  Speaker 4: I could go that far right, Yeah, but it gets
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  Speaker 4: weird here where they're like they're worshiping Hannah, like they're
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  Speaker 4: seen after seeing of these girls.
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  Speaker 3: Freaking out over Hannah Brown. I get it.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's it's wild, and it's probably cool for that
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  Speaker 4: Hannah's down the beach, but it feels weird to me
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  Speaker 4: for this reason, Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: They just make her too much of a celebrity or.
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  Speaker 4: Like, well they're I'm making it too much of a
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  Speaker 4: celebrity in this world. I think it gets weird when
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  Speaker 4: they're person after person is like freaking out that Hannah
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  Speaker 4: Brown is there, Like I mean, somebody says she's a
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  Speaker 4: Taylor Swift to Bachelor Nation. She is, but like Rachel
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  Speaker 4: is sitting right there, who having the same resume in
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  Speaker 4: in this world as Hannah Brown, she is a bachelorette.
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  Speaker 3: It's different. Hannah really is the Taylor Swift of Bachelor Nation.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like if I were to have her on
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: the podcast, I would actually be nervous before the interview
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: because I do think of her as a celebrity. Okay,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: well that's fair, Yeah, and I got there's like that
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: kind of that Taylor Swift factor where it's kind of
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: like there's something about Hannah Brown that like I want
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: to have, and there's something about her personality and like
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: the way she speaks and like commands herself that I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: am jealous of, but in like a way where it's
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: like an admirable jealousy, you know what I mean.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: So you would you when you're watching this, you're understanding
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: everybody's kind of like freak outness out at Hannah like
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: that would you would probably be saying similar stuff like Wow,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Hannah Brown's on the beach, this is crazy.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: I probably would, But I do feel like she's such
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: a somebody that girls want to be with and around.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: She's such like a girl. I'm not saying that she's like.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: She's some you know that there's girl hot and there's
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: guy hot. Like obviously Hannah is beautiful, but I think
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: she's particularly intimidating to women because she does have this
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: quality that like, we're kind of like, oh man, I
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: just kind of want to be like her. But but
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: as far as like a threat romantically, they're probably overdoing
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: it because everybody, like the guys are going to be like,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: oh man, she's hot and such a catch. But also
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: but they're also like, but everybody here is hot in
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: a catch, you know what I mean?
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Well, Hannah comes to the beach, and
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: she does do an incredible job, not shockingly at commanding herself,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: especially during this bonfire, which was an interesting moment on
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: the beach. Ashley alluded to it a little bit ago
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: that Hannah comes in with the hard hitting questions. Obviously,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: these questions are set up for each person. The producers
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: know each person's storyline, so these questions are going to
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: bring out the truth of what they're feeling and what
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: they're thinking in their unique scenarios on the beach. Hannah,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I think does an amazing job at kind of walking
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: everybody through this so that there isn't it's not chaotic,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: and it's maybe not as confrontational as it could have become,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: because I think Hannah does a great job of kind
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: of hosting this date or whatever this is.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: He have it lighthearted and laughed and smiled through the
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: whole thing. She could have gotten the dramatic route.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: She could have, but she didn't. And this is where
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: actually you were talking about earlier, where it feels like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: as Hannah asked these questions, I off the top of
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: my head can't think of one couple or one person
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: that responded with complete confidence. I know that they were
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: in it, that they said, no, this is my person,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: this is this is who I want to pursue things with.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I'm committed to this person right now for the rest
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: of paradise or for the rest of my time here.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, do you think that they did that? You think
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: there's a couple.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Couples that said, like they're open just because they don't
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: want to scare the person there with and they don't
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: want to like act too needy, or do you think
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: everybody is truly like ready and open.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I think it could be both. I don't know if
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: I could answer that. I mean, I've never thought about
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: that until you just asked it. Where some of these
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: couples could be saying, yeah, we're only a few days in,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: and I don't want to be like, yes, I'm in
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: this for good now. But I do think if we
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: think back on relationship with the past and Paradise, there
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: has been couples within a few days that we that
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: would confidently have said no, if this doesn't work out,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: then like, I'm not interested in being here any longer.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, perspective is here as big because.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: From what I'm thinking, it is day two.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: So on day two it is kind of crazy to say,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: is it day two?
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Am I missing a day?
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Could be day three? I mean, I don't know if
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: we say.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: It could be day three, it is kind of It
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: does sound a little obsessive to say that you are
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: bonded to one person for the rest of paradise, even
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: though I would have felt that way, like I would
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: have felt, yes, I am fully blown in.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: But I also wouldn't I probably wouldn't say it just
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: to play.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: A little cool, and I don't think there's anything bad
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: with that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you could pull back quotes that we've had
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: in other seasons of Paradise where where I've said something
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: or you have said something like, hey, keep your options open, right,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: don't commit to one person too early because you don't
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: know who's coming out of the beach and you don't
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: know what scenarios are going to exist long term.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's anything bad with staying open.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I think I was just semi surprised at how little
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: confidence anybody had in their current relationship.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it does.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I could pick one relationship where
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, this is going to be the one
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: to the end.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, No one I'm feeling this is gonna be the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: one to the end, the one that it was like,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the one that I felt that way the most, like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the most disappointed to see openness was surprisingly justin Blake.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it does feel like those two are the
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: two people that would come to the beats and be like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you know what, let's just date, Let's see how this goes.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: They both don't.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Blake in the past maybe, but whoever,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: this new two point zero Blake is seems like somebody
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: that just wants to come and give it his best
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: shot to find somebody or why would we come back?
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: You know? But you know there's sum up this bonfire.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: There really isn't a ton of chaos or drama that
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: come out of it. More questions I think for each
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: couple on what relationships or you know, gonna you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: where their relationships stand. The most surprising thing for me,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Ashley and I would love for you to talk to
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: this is that Rachel and Sean he'll somehow make it
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: out of this bonfire like together or in a relationship
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: or like cuddling. And even though she says like she's
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: interested in and maybe pursuing other people, that she's not
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: fully settled down, Sean understands that and he's happy that
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: she says that. I'm thinking in the back of my head,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Sean's laying next to Rachel being like, I have no
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: clue how I'm here right now with this girl, Like
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I don't want her to go anywhere.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: I am so in on this, but he's playing it cool.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I think this is probably the most play that we
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: have going on right now. Like Rachel is going is
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: just hoping that she finds somebody she likes more, because
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think that she likes Sean. I don't think
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: she likes him. I think she's hanging out next to him.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: She's a he's a good rose. He's a good, safe
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: rose right now. And he's he's pretty nice, you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: he's just pretty nice.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I'm glad to hear you say the
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: things that you're saying. And I don't know he's but
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking that, you know, Sean Is is probably so
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: thrilled that he's got two days with Rachel. Like he's
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: just like, this is great. I'm living the dream right now,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: and I don't know if this will last, but I
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: got two days with this girl.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, Before we move on from the campfire, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: do have to say I think the their intention behind
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: it was just to really get some people hostile, like
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: angry and nervous, but it didn't really work out that way.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I will say what it did was.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Probably bring some things to the surface that would have
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: eventually come up, but it just happened a little bit faster.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Because we don't see a.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Ton of drama going from the bonfire nights to the
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: roast ceremony night like, it didn't really not much came up.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think the well, there was one fight. That was
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the one fight about maturity. We'll get there in a second,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but before we leave the conversation about the bonfire, I
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: do want to bring up the Mercedes, Aaron b and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Eliza thing. So Aaron basically abandons Mercedes.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: At this point.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: They made out the night before, but he makes pretty
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: clear that he's not interested anymore. He's legit sitting next
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: to her and says that he's interested in Eliza to.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: The whole What would that feel like?
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Ashon? Awful? Awful.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: He hasn't acknowledged her, and Mercedes even said that earlier
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: in the day. They're sitting around the pool they made
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: out the night before and he hasn't even like said hello.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: That's so awkward and awful and like he's slow fading
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: her in Paradise.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird because you're never going to get away
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: from that ghosting. You can't ghost anybody there ye feet
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: from you. You know, Mercedes brings up a big storyline,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: and this can skip us then to the cocktail party,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: because obviously there's a few storylines at the cocktail party.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: That are worth touching on.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: One is that most people have a rose that's secured
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: at this point, but there are some women who have
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: not met a guy, or not friended up with a guy,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: or not in a relationship with somebody, and they're kind
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: of fighting over a last rose, which is really at
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: this point. Peter and Will's up until this point, But
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: then Will and I said at the beginning that we
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: were gonna sit on Will for a second. You know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Will was somebody that we or I personally I can say,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: criticized on his time on the Bachelorette.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I thought it was a little weird. I thought it
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: was a little wild.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Obviously, there was a lot of like chaos and drama
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: around Will, and at that time we didn't get a
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: good picture of Will. I will say this Will to me,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I understand him yet, but I
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: can say that I'm intrigued by him, that I'm fascinating
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: in him, and that I really want this to work
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: out for him. Because Will is more emotional than I
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: ever would have imagined. You know, he comes to the beach,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: he shared at this point, he shed many tears, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: you know, as these roses are kind of getting filtered through,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and Will feels like, Hey, everybody he's been into, even
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: if he's made a bad mistake, I think along the way,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: everybody he's been into has left him. Mercedes sits down
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: with him, and I can see it right away when
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: they're on this bed. I don't think this is just
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: a hey, I need a rose? Will you willing to
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: give it to me? Kind of Sineia. There is some
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: chemistry there, there is some like joy and peace there,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: and then he just breaks down. I mean, that dude
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: breaks down after a few days in paradise.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: We thought in the teaser that that was going to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: be relating to Kylie coming back with Avan, but he
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: was crying happy tears and says the most dramatic thing
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I've ever heard.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: It's always been Mercedes. I mean, it was never Kylie
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: or Olivia. It's always been Mercedes.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Three days coming literally quotes out of my own mouth
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: pretty much, though, So I cannot make fun of the dramatics.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I'm not making fun of him because I'm imagining this
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: is an emotion. This is an emotional rollercoaster. It is
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: insanely dramatic for a few days in after this is
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: his third or me.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I think he's me.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Like, it's always been Mercedes, and you know what, for
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Will's sake, I sure hope it is.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Mercedes sake.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: It is Mercedes is kind of gotten the wrong to
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: the deal a little bit Will has.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's had a huge three days in Paradise.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: The poor boy has to be so tired.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: They're really sweet together. I really like them. I'm rooting
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: for them.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: They look good together, hopefully, like let's let's just let
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: him like have a good week, you know, let them just.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Let him break, like just take a rest and enjoy
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: like a nice drink on a bed with this new
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: love of his life.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: He does is seriously.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: So sweet that he's there for the right reasons.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: He's definitely there for there's no arguing that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: The only thing I would say that, And you have
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: to kind of.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Calm me down here, explain it to me, because I
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: don't get it. You know, it's kind of funny coming
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: from my mouth, I guess. But he is throwing love
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: around very early.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: He said he was falling for Kylie after the date.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, can't do that. Even I didn't say falling
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: in love that easily.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I mean maybe he's just a romantic.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember my first date with Jess and thinking,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, this is like a feeling that I
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I've never really like fell after this quick a period
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: of time, and I'm sure she would have been like, hey,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not interested in you have to our first day.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I would have probably been sad and cried and been like,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: you know, why me?
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: But will is will is very.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Much looking for love here on the beach again. He's
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: very interesting than in finding it, and I hope it's
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: with Mercedes because I think it is a cute couple,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: and I hope for weeks now we're talking about them.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: The only other.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Big thing here, Ashley, in the cocktail party is the
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Peter and Aaron s scenarios so ridiculous. It is ridiculous
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: at all levels. An argument on maturity. You know, Peter,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I think is thirty four years older. Aaron necessary. You
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: know they're my age, they're your age. You know they're
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: they're fighting over maturity. I don't have a lot to say, Ashley,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: other than the like, this is unreal, Like why what
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: are you doing? What are you trying to accomplish? Why
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: you said you could come up with a thousand other
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: better reasons to bring somebody down, if that's what you're
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: interested in doing, then arguing about who's more mature who's not.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: So they're fighting over Sam, who has had like no
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: air of time. Basically, this entire triangle of people have
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: had very little airtime. And all of a sudden, it's like, well,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Peter is interested in Sam, or at least wants to
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: get to talk to her, because he hasn't really because
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: she and Aaron have clicked up. Clicked up that's a
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: new expression. They've they've clicked off.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: The new thing.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: They're not they're not hooking up. They they've clicked up.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And apparently she comes across very mature, and Peter Pilot
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Pete two point zero feels like he should be with
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: somebody who is very mature because he considers himself this
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and this is basically exactly what he says, you're very mature.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I'm very mature. You should be so immature.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: So he indirectly maybe doesn't say that Aaron as mature,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: like what does this even mean?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: It's and then the two guys go and have like
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: a debate.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Mature.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: It's just like it's just stupid, I mean, and I
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: won't go into it because people get it really mad
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: when I do. You're not allowed to call yourself mature,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Like that's just not a thing we're allowed to do.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Ben, you haven't brought it up enough.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: You're just not Like it's not something that I can't
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I can't say to you. Actually, you know, in my life,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I'm just very mature. You can't say that to yourself.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: You have to allow other people to say it about
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: you or I don't know, Like at thirty four years old,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: like nobody's shocked and saying coming up to me and
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: being like, Ben, you're just so mature, Like I haven't
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: heard that since I was like twenty one years old.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Like I used to hear things people would say like, hey, Ben,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: you're an old soul. You like to do things that
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: old people do, And I'd be like, what does that mean?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Like you know, I've made sense of that, But at
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: thirty four years old, it's either a given or it's not.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: And you're not allowed to say about yourself, like it
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: doesn't get you one up on anybody else.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: It's the you can't self describe. And there's some you
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: can't describe more than others, and this is one of them.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: And Ben and I are probably the worst people ever
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: at coming up with a resume because, like you and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I hate that part at the top, we we're supposed
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to describe yourself and all your positive attributes a gross
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I hate it.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: My biggest issue is that I have I'm too caring.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm too nice.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: You said that, didn't somebody say that recently? They're too caring?
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Probably happens every season on The Bachelor. I think somebody
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: says that their biggest issue is they just they have
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: such a big heart.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know. That's ridiculous. I have so many issues
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: that I could very much talk about, you know.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: So this is a weird scenario between the two of them.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: It's funny too. To me. There's some comic comedic relief
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: where they're arguing about maturity and Peter is dancing behind them,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: and yet Aaroness is like upset with it because in
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: my world of what I think of when somebody's mature.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Is they don't crawl up behind somebody's conversation.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: One, they don't crawl behind somebody's conversation, and they don't
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: dance behind this conversation. The second piece of that is
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: that you don't get upset if somebody does. You're just like, hey,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: he's making a fool of himself. He's just being wild
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: and weird right now. Like, let him be dancing.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't see him dancing.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah he was dancing.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: He was a little bit.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was dancing there. He was like break dancing.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: They said, So, you know, if you if I think
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: of somebody I look up to because of their intellect,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: intellect or their their I guess, maturity or their ability
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: to keep calm in chaotic situations, which I think is
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: a sign of maturity and a size of a sign
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: of what you've been through. One you're not dancing on
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: the conversation and two you're not getting upset upset if
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: somebody does. And so like I think the two of
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: them are arguing about maybe their biggest insecurity.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: It's a total tongue in cheek paradise moment. Like the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: producers are cracking up.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, this is the best, This is gonna
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: be great television. Well, it leads us to the Rose ceremony.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Eight guys, eleven girls, three girls are going home. Uh,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: here's the breakdown. Brayden chooses Cat, not shocking. Blake chooses Jess,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: not shocking. Aaron be chooses Eliza after their bonfire and
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: being very clear about what he was into. Will in
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: his new relationship with Mercedes. Sean chooses Rachel good for him,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: good for her. There On the next week, Even chooses Kylie,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Aaron s chooses Sam, Peter chooses Olivia. That was kind
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: of the shocking moment of the Rose Sammonie.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Who was the only one for real grabs.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Brooklyn, Greer and Cat go home. Brooklyn and
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Cat not necessarily surprised by because it sounded like the
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: two of them just wanted to be on the beach
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: the whole time, and you know, for as much as
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: their storylines could have been shown when it comes to there,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I think it was Brooklyn's issues with the other cat.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Cat.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Greer is a surprise going home for me. I'm
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: surprised the show did not find somebody to bring down
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: to the beach to keep her around, because.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I wanted them to because of the way that her
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: relationship ended with Zach over the over like a FaceTime
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: when he had COVID and I just liked her and
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get her know her more. I thought
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Paradise would be a great place for that. But no,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: she's gone. And I thought that Brooklyn. I thought they
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: were going to utilize more drama between her and Cat
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: and she's just spicy, you know. Like I said last week,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: she scares me a little bit, and like that's kind
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of a good personality you have around for a bit.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm shocked, but you know, also not surprising. The
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: three of them are the ones going home. In the
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: sneak peak for next week, Tyler Norris shows back up
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: to the beach hot commodity last time in Paradise, kind
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: of a hot commodity in general, feels like somebody. He
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: reminds me of a Dylan Barber in a lot of ways.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know why, but he does kind of. I
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: feel like he's gonna come to the beach and actually
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: find somebody, at least I hope he does.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: People.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think he's got an ego
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: on him.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Now whoops, Okay, let's see if that plays out. I
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: think that's a hot take. Let's see if plays out.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Tanner shows up to the beach obviously, Tanner has been
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: talked about by Kat. She's interested in Tanner. He's a
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: attractive man who is going to come to the beach
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: and definitely shake things up.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: And we see it a little sneak preview where Braiden
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: feels played. As we said earlier, for some reason, I
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: just feel like that relationship is not between Braiden and
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Kat is not gonna end well. And the final one
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: is the second time that we've seen this poop baby
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: being discussed. I don't think we need to talk about
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: it here. I think it's gonna become way overplayed. I'm
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: just now worried about her.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned, you know why, because Ben, we
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: just we talked about it quite a bit last week,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and you were saying that you were happy that we
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: were bringing up this conversation because it's it can be
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a problem, especially when visiting tropical locales.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I guess like overplays.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned that we have no drama and that we
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: will be just waiting for the poop baby and that's
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: gonna be our biggest drama.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's where I'm making you have to use
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: it in every single teaser.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: It's not dramatic to me, it's not.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: It's more like sad and like, I feel bad, but
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: I if I'm gonna have an two hour long episode
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: and even thirty minutes of it is spent there like
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: highlighting that she hasn't pooped. One, I feel bad for
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: her because that's how she's gonna be remembered.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Two, I feel bad for her because her time in
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Paradise has not felt well. Three like just give us
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: the like like the short end, like, hey, she did
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: or she didn't, and we should all like rally around Sam,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Like Sam, I'm sorry, this sucks, but I just if
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I'm worried that it's going to become a thirty minute process.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Or the doctor comes in and talks to her, she
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: tells everybody about it. Everybody's talking about it. It's like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: does it really need to be this like it's it's not.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: I think when you get older, these conversations get less embarrassing,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: or at least maybe they hopefully they should. But it
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: would still be embarrassing for me personally to be on
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: the beach and to have all these love interests, you know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: and all these friends new friends talking about, hey, have
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I had a bowel? Movement or not today, Like, it's
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: just not it would not be a fun experience for me.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I would feel just like, yeah, this sucks. So I
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: feel bad for Sam that now two weeks in a row,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: she's known as the girl that has the poop baby,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: I know, and what happens if it comes out like
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: what happens if it works and then everybody's celebrating the
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: fact that she just took a massive dump.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna leave that all right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Well, hey, well, we have more episodes coming your way
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: on the Almost Famous Podcast. We have some exciting interviews
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: popping up. Katie Thurston is going to be joining us
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: talking about some of her newest endeavors. We'll be back
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: breaking down the Golden Bachelor with a very very special guest.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Last week we had an aunt from one of our
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: producers on the show. We're going to have a grandma
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: this week from one of our producers in the show
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: breaking down the Golden Bachelor with us.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: It's going to be a blast.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: We're having a lot of fun over here, some good
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: television on keeping us busy and obviously keeping all of
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: you busy as well.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: So until next time, I've.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Been ben I've been Ashley, See you guys.
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