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- 0:00Break Fix's History of Motorsports Series is brought to you in part
- 0:04by the International Motor Racing Research Center, as well as the
- 0:07Society of Automotive Historians, the Watkins Glen Area Chamber of
- 0:11Commerce, and the Argo Singer family.
- 0:16The P two Alpha Fascist Icon by Paul Bax.
- 0:20This year, we'll mark the hundredth anniversary of the
- 0:22iconic Alpha Romeo's P two's debut, designed by legendary Vitor Yano.
- 0:27The P two went on to dominate Grand Prix racing in the final two
- 0:30years of the two Leader Formula.
- 0:32In 1925, alpha Romeo won the first World Championship, after which the
- 0:36team dually withdrew from the sport.
- 0:38However, privately owned Alpha P Twos continue to participate in
- 0:42racing and win races up until 1930.
- 0:45The sporting achievements of the Alpha P twos are well known as is the role the
- 0:49car played in establishing Alpha Romeo as Italy's most famous racing mark.
- 0:53Up until the advent of the Second World War, less known is the broader
- 0:56significance of the P two that went well beyond the racetrack.
- 1:00Informed by the history of objects developed by cultural historians.
- 1:04This paper argues that the P two significance was industrial,
- 1:08cultural, and ultimately political.
- 1:09The achievements of the P two and the emergence of the mil based alpha company
- 1:14coincided with the establishment of Mussolini's dictatorship in Italy.
- 1:17The fascist regime used the successes to celebrate the rise of fascist Italy
- 1:22as an industrial and sporting power.
- 1:24Moreover, the unique characteristics of the P two came to embody the values
- 1:28promoted by fascism such as speed and dominance, both the design and performance
- 1:32of the car, as well as the men who raced.
- 1:34It came to shape not only Grand Prix racing in the 1920s, but also impacted the
- 1:39role played by the sport in the political and cultural context of fascist Italy.
- 1:43Paul Baxa is a professor of history at Ave Maria University in Florida.
- 1:46Parts of his most recent book, motor Sport and Fascism Living Dangerously have been
- 1:51presented at past Argen Singer Symposia.
- 1:53He was privileged to have presented at the first symposium in 2015.
- 1:57Thanks everybody.
- 1:58I'd like to introduce you to our next speaker, Paul Baxa, who's going to talk
- 2:02about the P two Alpha fascist icon.
- 2:05Thank you, Kip.
- 2:10Thank you all.
- 2:11Uh, I wanna thank Don Kas and Bob Barr and Duke Kininger and everyone
- 2:15who make this great event happen.
- 2:17It was my privilege to be at the first one back in 2015 and
- 2:21it's amazing how this has grown.
- 2:23Thank you for having me.
- 2:24Just, uh, before I get to my presentation, Jim had a, uh, slide showing the
- 2:28program for the 1980 US Grand Prix.
- 2:31I had the privilege of being at that race back in October of 1980.
- 2:35I came down with my dad.
- 2:36I remember.
- 2:37Bruno Giac in the Alfa Romeo Getting Pole position, and I came from a
- 2:42family of Tizi, but my dad told me that weekend, he said a, you know, a
- 2:45real Italian racing fan knows that Alfa Romeo is really the team to cheer for.
- 2:50And that leads me actually to today's presentation.
- 2:53Actually.
- 2:53My dad grew up in fascist Italy, so he may have been influenced by some of the
- 2:58things I might be talking about today.
- 3:00So on Sunday, August 3rd, 1924, the fascist party of Italy was
- 3:05holding an emergency meeting in the Palazzo Venetia in Rome.
- 3:09It was the height of the Mati crisis, and Mussolini's government
- 3:12was facing an uncertain future.
- 3:14The body of the socialist deputy, Giacomo Mati was still missing
- 3:18after he was kidnapped by a group of fascist thugs in June.
- 3:22Although his fate was unknown, the expectation was that Mati
- 3:25had been assassinated and that Mussolini was to blame.
- 3:28At 5:00 PM during a series of tense exchanges and speeches, calling
- 3:32for Mussolini to crack down on his enemies, the radical fascist.
- 3:36Francesco Junta interrupted the conference to announce that Giuseppe
- 3:40Camp driving a P two Alfa Romeo had just won the European Grand Prix at Leon.
- 3:46The next day, the front page of Italy's most important national newspaper carried
- 3:51two items, the PNF meeting and the Grand Prix in its report of the party meeting,
- 3:57the article noted Junta's announcement.
- 3:59It was a bright light and an otherwise darkening situation
- 4:02from Mussolini and his government.
- 4:0410 days after camp stirring victory, Mattel's body was discovered in
- 4:09a shallow grave north of Rome.
- 4:10As it turned out, Mussolini's regime not only survived the crisis, but it
- 4:15became the jumping off point for his dismantling of Italian democracy and the
- 4:19establishment of the fascist dictatorship.
- 4:21In the meantime, the P two alphas would go on to dominate Grand Prix racing
- 4:26during the two liter formula and beyond.
- 4:28To be sure the victories of the Alphas led by the charismatic Antonio
- 4:32Ascotti served as a distraction from the tumultuous events in Italy.
- 4:36They were also used by Mussolini to exalt the New Italy that he and his
- 4:41fascists were in the process of building.
- 4:44In the pages of Italy's most Read Illustrated magazine, the lead editorial
- 4:48in the next edition noted how the common man was more interested and excited by
- 4:53the exploits of the Alphas than they were by the sorted events of Roman politics.
- 4:58Victory at Leon was far more important it seemed than the disappearance
- 5:03of a socialist politician.
- 5:05The car at the center of this was the P two Alfa Male's First
- 5:09Grand Prix winning machine.
- 5:11Designed by Vittorio Yano and Record Time.
- 5:13The car was introduced at the Remona Grand Prix in June of 24.
- 5:17Results was an easy victory in the hands of Antonio Ascotti.
- 5:21With it came a new speed record on the circuit's 10 kilometers straight,
- 5:25clocked at 121 miles per hour.
- 5:29The car and the company that built it quickly became a symbol of Italy's
- 5:33rebirth under the sign of fascism.
- 5:35This paper will demonstrate the correlation between the P two,
- 5:39its design and its successes with the rise of Italian fascism in the
- 5:44decisive years between 1924 and 1930.
- 5:47In those years, Mussolini consolidated his dictatorship and promoted sport as
- 5:52one of the regimes greatest achievements.
- 5:54At the Party Congress in August, Mussolini gave a speech where he declared that it
- 5:59was time for Italians to live dangerously.
- 6:02Present at that meeting was Roberto Farci, the violent fascist chief
- 6:07of Cremona and leader of the intransigent wing of the party.
- 6:11Faade Naci was also a some time race car driver and promoter
- 6:15of the Remona Grand Prix.
- 6:17Apart from Mussolini, no one embodied fascist violence and the
- 6:20cult of speed more than Faade.
- 6:22Naci, a man who approved the TIS assassination and called
- 6:26for even more bloodshed.
- 6:27The fact that the P two began its legendary run of successes
- 6:31on his patch of lumber de.
- 6:33Seemed fitting, especially as the Remona Road Course was known for being one of
- 6:37the fastest racetracks in the world.
- 6:40In his book, objects of Desire, a study of Italian industrial culture in
- 6:44the late 19th and early 20th century, Luca Tini has argued that objects
- 6:49are culture makers mediating devices.
- 6:52And vehicles of meaning.
- 6:53In the 1920s, Kini argues Italian industrial design reached a peak of
- 6:58expressive energy that was found mostly in the aviation and automobile industries.
- 7:03Two modern activities exalted by fascism.
- 7:06In addition, thanks to design theorists like Joe Ponti, Italian
- 7:10industrial products became works of art as well as commercial objects.
- 7:14I would add that they also became political objects, vehicles to draw
- 7:18Italians to Mussolini's dictatorship in the late 1920s, precisely the period
- 7:22that Kini points out as the culmination of Italy's developing industrial
- 7:26culture and entrance into modernity.
- 7:29No object expressed this network of relations.
- 7:32I argue more than the P two.
- 7:34The link between the successes of the Alpha Maleo P two and national
- 7:38industrial political revival was even noted by foreign journalists.
- 7:43After a crushing demonstration of dominance in the 1925 European Grand
- 7:48Prix at spa, the Dean of French Motorsport, writers Shao Faru, exclaimed
- 7:53how the Alfa Romeo Squad embodied the Italian National Renaissance.
- 7:58Those are the words that he used.
- 8:00Before I came to represent Italy's political shift, the P two caused a
- 8:04qualitative shift for its company and a major shift in Italian motorsport.
- 8:08Based in Milan, Italy's emerging industrial and financial capital.
- 8:12Alpha's victory in the 24 French Grand Prix effectively knocked fiat
- 8:16out of Grand Prix racing for good.
- 8:18Although, to be fair, I think Fiat was, had already essentially made
- 8:21the decision to leave before that.
- 8:24Fiat had represented racing success for Italy since the early 19
- 8:28hundreds, and was the country's leading automobile manufacturer
- 8:31aspiring to become Italy's Ford.
- 8:34Ali's company was based in Tarin Milan's rival for industrial prowess.
- 8:39Alpha's victories, therefore not only represented success on the
- 8:42track, but also symbolized Milan's challenge to the Piedmontese capital.
- 8:47In doing this, alpha was accomplishing an industry what Mussolini's
- 8:51movement was doing in politics.
- 8:53Like Alpha Fascism was born in Milan, a city that presented itself
- 8:57as a more dynamic and youthful one compared to the state city of Turin.
- 9:01A city described by some fascists as filled with sticks in the mud quote.
- 9:07After winning the 1924 Italian Grand Prix, the Fascist magazine, LA Vista del
- 9:12Popolo contrasted the young audacious alpha with the old Fiat end quote.
- 9:19Like the cities, the two companies were often presented in
- 9:22contrasting ways by the fascists.
- 9:24Turin and Fiat were throwbacks to the old liberal Italy.
- 9:28Well, alpha and Milan were part of the new avant-garde Italy.
- 9:32Fascism's relationship with Turrin and Fiat was a difficult one.
- 9:36Giovanni Ali, Fiat's founder was not a fascist, and the company's
- 9:40labor force was mostly anti-fascist.
- 9:42Alpha, on the other hand, was a smaller, younger company, and its labor force
- 9:46would become home to former black shirts.
- 9:49Fiat was the past, alpha was the future.
- 9:52Nothing embodied this more than the P two project.
- 9:55Everything about the P two, the men who built and raced it, and the
- 9:59successes on the track corresponded to Mussolini's new image for Italy.
- 10:03Up until 1924, Alfa Romeo had limited success on international racetracks.
- 10:09Its success seemed to coincide with the rise of the regime.
- 10:12Alpha's first major victory came at the Targa Florio in
- 10:161923, international victory.
- 10:18Only a few months after Mussolini became Prime Minister
- 10:21of Italy, which of course is.
- 10:23Pure coincidence, but it was something that was commented upon that same year.
- 10:26The design and engineering department of the Mil outfit was completed with
- 10:30the arrival of Vittorio Yano from Fiat.
- 10:33It was Yano and his team of engineers who put together the
- 10:36P two project in record time.
- 10:38Both the speed of the project and the youthfulness of the team fit in with
- 10:42Fascism's cultivation of speed and youth.
- 10:44Both Yano and Luigi Basi, who had also come over from
- 10:48Fiat were in their thirties.
- 10:50Meanwhile, the man most responsible for bringing these men into the alpha fold.
- 10:54Enzo Ferrari was only 25 years old, according to Peter Hall and
- 10:58Luigi Fuzzi Ferrari was the driving force by an alpha's assembling
- 11:03of a crack designing team.
- 11:05Ferrari represented everything that Mussolini's regime, ext stalled in Italy.
- 11:09He held from the same region as Mussolini and came from a similar modest background.
- 11:13After serving in the First World War, Ferrari had applied for a job at Fiat,
- 11:17but was turned down in later years.
- 11:19He would describe this moment as a turning point in his life as fate would
- 11:23drive him to Milan, where he eventually joined the fledgling Alpha Company.
- 11:28Ferrari's story thus resembled the profile of the ideal fascist in some ways, as one
- 11:34who was rejected by the establishment and then turned that frustration into revenge.
- 11:39In Ferrari's case, the revenge came with knocking Fiat out of racing.
- 11:44The development of the P two was born out of a similar set of frustrations.
- 11:48Yano was part of the design team that had put together the Fiat 8 0 5 a car
- 11:53that was the class of the field in 1923, but it failed to win the French
- 11:57Grand Prix, which is the most important international race at the time.
- 12:01Aware of the car's weaknesses, Yano was not able to rectify them due to his
- 12:06subordinate position within the team.
- 12:08At Alpha, he would use the P two project to improve on the Fiat.
- 12:12In his time at Fiat, Yano was shackled by the corporate structure of the company
- 12:16and the fact that Fiat emphasized.
- 12:18Its production cars over racing.
- 12:20Alpha, on the other hand, was smaller with an increasing emphasis
- 12:23on high performance sports cars.
- 12:26At Alpha Yano was able to instill a military-like discipline that suited
- 12:30the type of rhetoric that was being pumped out by Mussolini's, Italy.
- 12:34He joined the team in September of 23, and the first drawings for the
- 12:38car were completed by mid-October.
- 12:40The following March saw the first engine put on the test bed, and in
- 12:44June, the first example was taken to Monza and tested by Antonio
- 12:48Scottie and Giuseppe Compati just a few days before it won at Cremona.
- 12:53The speed of the car's production was helped by the fact that Yano was
- 12:57merely perfecting the Fiat 8 0 5.
- 12:59He had worked at in Turin, modifications on engine and suspension design helped
- 13:04produce a car that was more powerful and ultimately faster than the 8 0 5 without
- 13:08the reliability issues aesthetically.
- 13:10The P two was almost a carbon copy of the Fiat, but the modifications
- 13:14to the engine were significant to the point where Yano later claimed that
- 13:18the car was a completely new design.
- 13:20That was his claim.
- 13:22In this case, unintentionally, the P two did resemble Mussolini's movement.
- 13:27Fascism two was largely derivative, appropriating preexisting
- 13:30ideas and concepts while claiming to create a new Italy.
- 13:34P two's successes on the track however, appeared to usher in a revolution while
- 13:39the REM Grand Prix demonstrated the new car's potential, it was the Grand
- 13:43Prix Leon that consecrated the P two in the eyes of Mussolini's New Italy.
- 13:48The stage could not have been more appropriate.
- 13:50Beginning in 1923, the governing body of Motorsport anointed
- 13:55one National Grand Prix.
- 13:56To have the title of European Grand Prix in 1924 was the turn of the Grand Prix
- 14:01de France, or the Grand Prix de la cf.
- 14:04Strictly speaking, ALS known as the French Grand Prix.
- 14:07Furthermore, the 1924 edition of the Race was a special one since it marked
- 14:12the 10th anniversary of the Epic 1914 race that saw the French and German teams
- 14:17battle on the track only weeks before the outbreak of the First World War.
- 14:22As a commemoration of that event, the race returned to the Leon Vo circuit,
- 14:27the scene of that historic race in 1914.
- 14:30The event thus served to remember a great race, but also served
- 14:34as a memorial to the war.
- 14:36A fact that fed the fascist regime's own exaltation of the war experience.
- 14:41The resulting race was nearly as epic as its 1914 predecessor
- 14:45on the Spectacular Road Course.
- 14:47It wasn't exactly the same by the way.
- 14:49They cut it in half, so they used half of the original course, but
- 14:52they used the most exciting part on The Spectacular Road Course.
- 14:56Alfa Romeo Fiat, Sunbeam de Lodge, and Bugatti battled for over seven
- 15:01hours in a race that went back and forth with numerous lead changes with
- 15:05Compati Alpha emerging triumphant.
- 15:07Giuseppe Camp's Victory at Leon Made Alfra Romeo a national name and was
- 15:12able albia briefly to serve as a distraction from the mati crisis.
- 15:16As I already mentioned, the car appeared in ads for the company and
- 15:21for Pelli the tire manufacturer.
- 15:23This poster calls the race the Olympiad of engines.
- 15:27The P twos triumphant, Leon encouraged a more bullish attitude on the part of
- 15:32Italy's representatives at the sporting Commission of the A-I-A-C-R, which
- 15:37is the forerunner of the FIA, taking advantage of a procedural loophole.
- 15:41The Italian representatives tried to convince the commission to award
- 15:45the title of European Grand Prix in 1925 to Italy and not to Belgium as
- 15:51had been approved by the A-I-A-C-R in its previous general meeting.
- 15:55Claiming that Italy had the stronger racing tradition proven by office victory.
- 15:59At Leon Arturo Meti, one of the two representatives argued that Italy
- 16:04deserved the race, not Belgium.
- 16:06The challenge which caused some friction at the sporting commission's meeting
- 16:10in the fall of 24, was unsuccessful.
- 16:12However, the Italian delegation did succeed in persuading the sporting
- 16:17commission to create a world championship for manufacturers in 1925.
- 16:22The desire to use Alpha's triumphs to elevate Italy's international motorsport.
- 16:27Prestige mirrored the fascist regime's, attempts to make Italy into a world power.
- 16:32In 1925, Mussolini turned to the dismantling of the Italian liberal state
- 16:37in the wake of the Mati assassination, an event that should have been his end, but
- 16:42instead marked the beginning of fascist.
- 16:44Italy's rise to power.
- 16:45The new secretary of the fascist party was none other than Roberto Farci,
- 16:50the patron of the Cremona Grand Prix.
- 16:52An intransigent fascist who now aim to activate Mussolini's
- 16:56call for living dangerously.
- 16:59The events on the racetracks of Europe reflected the radical and
- 17:02violent shift in Italian politics.
- 17:051925 was to be the last year of the successful two leader formula and
- 17:09alpha set its sight on dominating the opposition in three races.
- 17:13The European Grand Prix at spa, the French Grand Prix at the new Mulla Auto
- 17:18Drum and the Italian Grand Prix at Monza Alpha's approach to these races involved
- 17:22a degree of swagger and even arrogance.
- 17:25They lapped the field at spa prompting jeers from the partisan crowd.
- 17:30After crossing the line, Scotty's car had a giant Italian flag placed on the hood.
- 17:36Uh, there is a story about this race that I didn't find any of the contemporary
- 17:41accounts, but it kind of was told later by Motorsport historians that in order
- 17:45to taunt the crowd, the alphas, because they had lapped everybody and I think
- 17:49all the French cars had dropped out.
- 17:51Actually, and so there was just two alphas kind of circulating
- 17:53in the last part of the race.
- 17:55At one point they made such a lengthy pit stop that they took out
- 17:58a table and laid out a food spread.
- 18:01Um, it's a great story.
- 18:03It might be apocryphal though, because I didn't find it in contemporary
- 18:07counts, and Giovanni kind of Sini was kind of one of the Dean of Motorsport.
- 18:10Historians later said it wasn't really like that, it was just
- 18:14simply, you know, they had some panini, you know, sandwiches ready.
- 18:17Pit stops took a bit longer than usual.
- 18:19So it, you know, Scotty and Campti had timed it down a, you know, a
- 18:23sandwich and that's really all it was.
- 18:24But it's one of those wonderful stories, but it might be apocryphal.
- 18:28Whatever, though it still shows a certain degree of swagger, whatever it
- 18:31was, uh, on the part of the Alpha team.
- 18:33The Alphas were also dominating the French Grand Prix until Antonio Ascotti crashed
- 18:38and was killed while leading the race.
- 18:40Prompting the team to withdraw from the race as a final gesture of defiance,
- 18:45the two remaining alphas revved their engines loudly before leaving the race,
- 18:50and that is in a contemporary account.
- 18:52Uh, so they stopped in the pits and they started revving their engine.
- 18:54Now that was probably a salute to a Scotty, but again, you can't interpret
- 18:58that as kind of a defiant gesture.
- 19:00It was, uh, Bri Petty Gu, BLI Petty who gave Alpha the World Championship when he
- 19:05won the Italian Grand Prix in September.
- 19:09No one represented the new order in Grand Prix racing better than Antonio Hasti.
- 19:14His name became synonymous with the P two and with the Living Dangerously
- 19:18motto promoted by Mussolini and Fad naci.
- 19:21It had given the P two, its verse of Victory at Cremona and one at
- 19:24Manza in 1924 and its SPA in 1925.
- 19:27More than his victories.
- 19:28He came to embody a certain aggressiveness in his driving.
- 19:32He would be the first example of what would later be called the
- 19:35Gati Baldino approach to racing.
- 19:37That's a reference to Giuseppe Gati bdi, the guy who helped unify Italy.
- 19:41This Gati Baldino tag is most famously embodied by the likes of Tatio NTI in
- 19:46the 1930s, but as Scotty really was the first to kind of get that reputation.
- 19:50In short, he took risks.
- 19:53Amanza in 1924, his driving prompted a rebuke from the race director
- 19:59who instructed Alur to slow him down or they would call him in.
- 20:03This is the telegram that was sent from the race director who was
- 20:06Arturo Meti to the Alur MEO PIP saying, tell us Gotti to slow down.
- 20:10Otherwise we're gonna call him in.
- 20:12It's 'cause he was on the banking.
- 20:14He was going too close to the guardrail at the top.
- 20:17His style of driving ultimately proved his undoing while
- 20:20dominating the French Grand Prix.
- 20:22In 1925, he continuously brushed the apex of a fast left hand turn, coming
- 20:27with an inches of a wooden fence.
- 20:29On lap 22, he came too close, clipping the fence and rolling
- 20:33the car, which led to his death.
- 20:35A Scotty's death and Moni resulted in an outpouring of grief and a state funeral.
- 20:40In Milan, he became fascist.
- 20:42Italy's first racing martyr, and that word was in fact used when his
- 20:47body returned to Italy on a train.
- 20:49A large wreath from Mussolini was placed on the casket across the
- 20:53wreath that was donated by Mussolini were the words repi the intrepid.
- 20:59The funeral card repeated Mussolini's epithet with a message that read Antonio
- 21:04Ascotti, the Intrepid one, who sacrificed himself defending with undefeated faith,
- 21:09the colors of the Fatherland and Italian industry, although he had been racing
- 21:13since the 1910s, as Scotty's memory is indelibly marked with the P two.
- 21:18Not only did the car symbolize Trium.
- 21:20But it now also created martyrs speed and death in the service of glory.
- 21:26Found echoes in fascist rhetoric.
- 21:28The response to a Scotty's death and his depiction as a martyr to speed
- 21:32became the response template for the numerous Italian drivers killed in
- 21:36Grand Prix racing over the next decade.
- 21:38But none of them would be as celebrated as a Scottie, which showed a great
- 21:42deal to the Alpha Romeo P two.
- 21:44And in fact, um, I don't.
- 21:46Have a hard number in my head, but Italy probably produced more dead
- 21:50race drivers in the late twenties and thirties than any other country, but
- 21:54I, I can't say that for certainty, but there were a number of Italian
- 21:57drivers who were killed in that period.
- 21:59Unwilling to build a new car for the new one and a half liter formula Introduced in
- 22:041926 and troubled by financial problems.
- 22:07Alpha withdrew from Grand Prix racing after the 25 season.
- 22:11The legend of the P two continued on though as the car would enjoy an afterlife
- 22:15that kept it winning races until 1930.
- 22:18Mostly run by the SC Ferrari.
- 22:21In 1928, the A-I-A-C-R introduced the formula Libra Rules, which
- 22:26allowed this car to enter the official Grand Prix races.
- 22:29It was in this era that the legend of the car actually deepened in
- 22:32the late twenties Grand Prix racing entered a period of doldrums.
- 22:36Indicative of this was the fact that there was only one Grand
- 22:39Prix race held in 1928 at Manza.
- 22:42It would not be an exaggeration to say that Italy saved the sport or Grand Prix
- 22:48racing in particular in these years with the P two right at its center at Manza.
- 22:53All the attention of the Italian press, especially the newspapers closely
- 22:57associated with the fascist party, focused on the P two, driven by Akili Zi.
- 23:03In 1929, the cars were run by the new Kuia Ferri, where former Alpha
- 23:09personnel like Ferrari and Luigi Bati were reunited with the P twos in 1930.
- 23:15The P twos are driven by Akili, Zi and Tazi nti.
- 23:18Thus launching what was to become the most legendary driver rivalry in Italian motor
- 23:23sports in the 1930s, probably of all time.
- 23:26One last epic victory came at the Targa Florio in 1930 in the hands of Akili Tazi.
- 23:33By 1930, the P two had been substantially modified.
- 23:36This included the adoption of the flat slanted radiator taken from the
- 23:40Alpha 1,517 50 sports car models.
- 23:44These cars, which brought alpha more glory in the Mil Melia races
- 23:47were directly inspired by the P two.
- 23:49According to the Alpha Romeo historian Peter Hall, this made Alpha the only mark,
- 23:53which directly transferred Grand Prix technology to sports cars and vice versa.
- 23:58That's.
- 23:59Peter Hall's claim the introduction of the high performance six cylinder sports cars.
- 24:04Also designed by Vito Ano made alpha the most prestigious Italian maker
- 24:08of sports cars into the 1930s in Italy and worldwide, possibly thus
- 24:12establishing itself as the mark most suitable to the fascist era
- 24:15and Mussolini's regime building a process that was completed by 1929.
- 24:20As the modified P twos raced into their swansong year of 1930, fascism
- 24:25had completed the dismantling of the liberal state, and sport had
- 24:29become completely fasc size fiat.
- 24:31In the meantime, after an aborted attempt to return to Grand Prix
- 24:35racing in 1927 turns its attention to mass produced utility vehicles.
- 24:39A turned to the masses that would shape fascist policy in the thirties.
- 24:44As fascist Italy entered the decade of the thirties, alpha Romeo become
- 24:47closely identified with Mussolini.
- 24:49He called Alpha Romeo our best national product, and it was increasingly
- 24:54seen at the wheel of an alpha.
- 24:56Here he is driving, I believe, let's say 1750 around the new,
- 25:00um, litorial Autodrome in Rome, which is a purpose built track
- 25:05in Rome, which no longer exists.
- 25:06It's now an airport.
- 25:07In 1951 with Italy embroiled in a war that was going from bad to worse.
- 25:12Alfa Romeo's magazine published a retrospective on the P two written
- 25:16by Rado Filip, one of Italy's leading Motorsport journalists.
- 25:19This article summed up the importance of the P two for Italy's national prestige.
- 25:25The two years of Alpha Domination in 24 and 25 were characterized by Filip as the
- 25:31most spectacular era of Italian genius.
- 25:34Ignoring the fact that the P two was largely based on the Fiat 8 0 5, the
- 25:38retrospective claim that the P two had set a new standard for race car design,
- 25:42calling it authentically avant-garde.
- 25:46For NY proof of the car's greatness came in the 28 19 30 period when this
- 25:51older car was beating newer cars.
- 25:54Sometimes.
- 25:55Moreover, NY was confident that the car could even hold its own
- 25:59against contemporary competition.
- 26:02That would be auto unions and Mercedes.
- 26:03So.
- 26:04Make of that what you will hyperbole aside.
- 26:06A Philipp's article demonstrated the continued legacy of a car that had
- 26:11elevated Italy to the top of Grand Prix racing in an era when Mussolini's
- 26:15fascist regime was being constructed in peace time Alfa Mayo contributed
- 26:18to the triumphs of Italy on the track.
- 26:20In 1941, Alpha's production was directed to the war effort, and
- 26:25although the Italians are struggling on the battlefield, its access
- 26:28partner was walking all over Europe.
- 26:29For Philippines readers memories of the P two could be harnessed in
- 26:33the hope that Italian technology could once again triumph, while
- 26:36history would demonstrate otherwise.
- 26:38Thank you.
- 26:45Thank you Paul.
- 26:46That was fascinating.
- 26:47Anyone have questions?
- 26:49We have a question from the internet for Paul Terry Johnson writes, are there
- 26:53any P two alphas currently appearing at vintage and or historic events?
- 26:58Uh, I don't know if they appear at events, but I think there
- 27:00are still two in existence.
- 27:02There's a, an original P two, the first spec of the P two in
- 27:07the Alpha Mayo Museum in re.
- 27:09And there is one of the later P twos at the um, automobile museum in Torino
- 27:15or Turin, so I know that they exist.
- 27:18I don't know if they take them out on the track though.
- 27:20I'm just interested in your commentary on the state sponsorship of Alpha Rome
- 27:23or other Italian motor manufacturing and how this episode plays into that.
- 27:27If it does or if it does not.
- 27:28Yeah, that's an important question.
- 27:30The fascist regime did not subsidize the racing teams the way the Nazi
- 27:34regime did, but Mussolini did intervene on a few occasions to
- 27:39save the company from bankruptcy.
- 27:41In 1933 though, uh, alpha Mayo was taken over by the, it was
- 27:45bailed out by the IRI, which was the state run bailout institution.
- 27:50So after 33, it did become a state owned.
- 27:53Team, but it wasn't racing officially as a works team.
- 27:57Alphas were always raced by the Ferrari.
- 27:59However, in 1938, they did come back as an official team, alpha corse.
- 28:03So in that sense, yes it was because it was effectively owned
- 28:07by the state at this point.
- 28:08So.
- 28:08I dunno if that answers your question, Paul.
- 28:10It turns out I have something of a follow up question, which is to compare,
- 28:14if not narrowly, regarding finances, the Nazi use of symbolism in racing
- 28:18during this time with the Italians.
- 28:20In, in what sense are they equally active, more successful in using, uh, auto racing
- 28:26as a a means of political expression or.
- 28:29Oh yes.
- 28:29Yeah.
- 28:30Uh, absolutely.
- 28:30The Nazi regime, of course, would very much celebrate its victories.
- 28:34Uh, the, the German cards, victories, and, um, Italy did the same for the, um,
- 28:38Motorsport magazines, but even in the national newspapers, there would always be
- 28:41front page coverage when Alpha won a race.
- 28:44So you did have a similar type use of propaganda.
- 28:47For the races.
- 28:48Absolutely.
- 28:49When Fascist, Italy no longer existed, did Alpha Romeo struggle to shift any
- 28:55kind of negative associations with it, or was it relatively smooth sailing?
- 28:59They were able, I think, to shift rather easily into the postwar, and
- 29:03that that goes with any sporting hero.
- 29:05Actually under fascism.
- 29:06Even the great cyclists like Bartley and the soccer teams, they were all
- 29:11able to really easily transition.
- 29:13Uh, Simon Martin, uh, a sports historian, non Italian.
- 29:17Sports history makes this argument.
- 29:19I mean, it shows that the sporting heroes were able to create their
- 29:22own kind of popularity or their own niche in the Italian imagination
- 29:27that transcended fascism.
- 29:29So perhaps going back to Jim's earlier question that shows that
- 29:31maybe the regime was not as successful ultimately in making it truly fascist.
- 29:36I have to say though, that the managing director of Alfa Romeos
- 29:40name was Ugo GoTo, and he was, uh, he was appointed by Mussolini.
- 29:44After the state took over the company in 33, he was assassinated
- 29:48by the Italian resistance in 1945.
- 29:51And so not to be cynical, but I think by getting rid of him, even
- 29:55though he was not, as far as I know, he was not a convinced fascist.
- 29:58In fact, he had an industrial background.
- 29:59He had worked for Fiat.
- 30:00He had actually designed the lingo Hotel factory in Tur,
- 30:03if you're familiar with that.
- 30:04But he kind of paid the price, if you will, for Al Alpha Rome's
- 30:07association with the regime.
- 30:09So maybe that was enough to make others forget.
- 30:11And keep cheering for Al Romeo.
- 30:13Afterwards.
- 30:14Al Romeo remained a state run company until the 1980s, and then it was taken
- 30:18over by Fiat, if I'm not mistaken.
- 30:20Ruby, Joanne Wright.
- 30:22Were there any drivers that felt unhappy about Italy's fascism back then?
- 30:26Great question.
- 30:27There is no one that comes to mind.
- 30:30I don't know of any driver that comes to mind that was either anti-fascist.
- 30:34Or in some way bothered by the regime.
- 30:37Not to say that these guys were fascists necessarily.
- 30:40Antonio Skai, I think, belonged to a local fascist cell in Milan, Gaston,
- 30:45really, Perry, whom I mentioned, he's the one that won the 25 Italian Grand Prix.
- 30:49I think he was, he had a, he was known to be a, a fascist,
- 30:53actually politically active.
- 30:55Fascist.
- 30:55As for the others, they were, I, I would argue they were neither fascists
- 30:59or anti-fascists, as far as I know.
- 31:01Again, we don't know enough.
- 31:02This is a gap in the research.
- 31:04I think we don't know enough about a lot of these drivers during the fascist
- 31:07era because they didn't write much.
- 31:09Uh, n Vladi did write a couple of articles, had it written for him, I
- 31:13don't know, but his name was attached to them in some of the sporting magazines
- 31:16where he used some fascist language.
- 31:19Enzo Ferrari actually in the newsletters, would write periodically articles
- 31:22that exalted Mussolini's regime.
- 31:25But you have to remember too, that after the war, there was a lot of post
- 31:29hoc refashioning or sanitizing of a lot of this, and a lot of drivers,
- 31:33and a lot of people who carried over did not really talk much about that
- 31:37past politically Anyway, so we, we, we don't know enough on that topic, but
- 31:41it's, it's a, it's a great question.
- 31:42Thank you, Paul.
- 31:43That was terrific.
- 31:44Thank you.
- 31:44Thank you.
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