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Am I wrong for inviting my sister to a kids free vacation even if she has kids? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake Up with them playing Hey, Wake Up and the Club.
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  Speaker 2: On nine four seven, Tea Bag sends us a message.
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  Speaker 2: My friends and I spend six months planning and paying
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  Speaker 2: for a kid free trip to Zanzibar. My sister initially
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  Speaker 2: declined because she couldn't afford to go, but a week
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  Speaker 2: before the trip she has now said she she is
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  Speaker 2: able to come, but she would like to bring her
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  Speaker 2: two kids because she cannot find a babysitter. I said no,
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  Speaker 2: as the troop in activities were planned specifically for adults.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's accusing me of hating her children and choosing
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  Speaker 2: friends over family, and my mom is also pressurizing me
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  Speaker 2: to let her bring them. Oh you'll pull them, mom in.
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  Speaker 2: I still feel she's welcome to join us. We just
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  Speaker 2: are strict about no kids. What do we do? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is a tricky one.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, no, it's not. Are you you.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing tricky about this.
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  Speaker 1: No, but I feel it is because it's his sister.
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  Speaker 1: So it's oh, her sister, a niece and nephews.
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  Speaker 2: Right, they were originally not invited. Nothing has changed the
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  Speaker 2: conditions of the troop were six of us are going
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  Speaker 2: to zanzy Bar.
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  Speaker 1: No kids are allowed.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't come because initially you couldn't afford to come.
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  Speaker 2: Sad is saddle set settles tears for everyone. You can't
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  Speaker 2: come a week before we are leaving. We are out
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  Speaker 2: here chasing summer. We're leaving a call Toohannesburg to go
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  Speaker 2: to Zanzy Bar. A week before you say, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: can actually come. Wow, hey Prestol. Now we're happy that
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  Speaker 2: you can come, right, but you now can't bring your
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  Speaker 2: new conditions to a troop that has been cemented six
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  Speaker 2: months ago. And six months ago we said, no, kids,
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  Speaker 2: nothing's changed. And for you to pull mom in, oh
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  Speaker 2: you went and told.
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  Speaker 3: Mom, how do we know how all the kids are?
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  Speaker 3: We don't know, because that would be that would be
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  Speaker 3: my caveat.
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  Speaker 4: So like if they were teenagers, if.
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  Speaker 3: They were like nine and tens, fine bring them because
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  Speaker 3: I mean, as an on the trip, right, why does
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  Speaker 3: what is the adulting part of the trip? Really it's
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  Speaker 3: just us having a good time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they want a wild out without having kids around.
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  Speaker 3: So if the kids are old enough to sort of
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  Speaker 3: look after themselves that we're going to resort to whatever
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  Speaker 3: the case is, then that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But if they're small, small, that is tough.
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  Speaker 2: Because there's certain activities that we have planned, like let's
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  Speaker 2: say now we want to go jet skiing, smokeling, chasing turtles, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: And there's age restrictions and there's small kids and certain
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  Speaker 2: height and it's weight and all of that. They just
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  Speaker 2: don't want the admins. It's their holiday, gus. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know how hard people work for their holidays. People are
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  Speaker 2: sacrificing like food and luxuries just so you can have
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  Speaker 2: a week of a holiday that you are spending on yourself.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's thankful that her sister wasn't coming. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's how this started.
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  Speaker 4: Armatanella. If it was a no kids holiday from the
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  Speaker 4: start and I can't find a babysitter, sorry, guys, we're out, yes,
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time, if it was if it were,
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  Speaker 4: if they're over sixteen and it's okay, then it's a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a different story because the yachting.
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  Speaker 1: And you can look after themselves. I can join.
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  Speaker 4: It was it's a no kids holiday, it was probably
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  Speaker 4: one of the rules that were stated right up front.
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  Speaker 1: You deal with me, you pull yourself out.
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  Speaker 4: Of the trip you got guys, Sorry, we can't find
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  Speaker 4: anybody to look guys. Parents takes parents again, sometimes you
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  Speaker 4: miss out on things.
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  Speaker 2: Because she got angry, saying, I'm family, but I'm not
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  Speaker 2: being supportive. I explained, we booked boat rides, clubs, restaurants,
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  Speaker 2: activities specific for just adults. Now she's saying, I hate
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  Speaker 2: your children. I'm choosing strangers over family.
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  Speaker 1: That's dramatic.
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  Speaker 3: That's very dramatic, but to the point, and that's how
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  Speaker 3: I feel. You come with on the trip, but then
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  Speaker 3: when we're doing activities, the kids can't join us, and
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  Speaker 3: you must stay behind and look after your kids.
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  Speaker 2: I think the system must catch the next trip, me too,
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  Speaker 2: already already. Now you are coming with a cloud, and
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  Speaker 2: we are going to an island here.
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  Speaker 1: There's no clouds there, but these are I mean, children
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  Speaker 1: are a blessing.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but they can be a blessing at home. Then
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  Speaker 2: fours there still can be a blessing in Brackman.
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  Speaker 4: She can catch the next one, she can catch the
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  Speaker 4: next time. That was the tnc of the trip to start.
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  Speaker 3: I think, if it's not going to be massively disruptive,
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  Speaker 3: it is going.
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  Speaker 1: To be messive. But how do you know?
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  Speaker 2: Because they're kids?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, because jokes aside, you have to watch your p's
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  Speaker 4: and ques when kids are around, like, it doesn't allow
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  Speaker 4: you that extra layer of adult freedom where you can
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  Speaker 4: talk about stuff that now you've got.
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, there's a kid. There's a kid. There's a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Now you guys want to get you know, drink mimosas
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  Speaker 2: at eight in the morning and talk about your lost
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  Speaker 2: relationship and why it failed. Do you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: But now I have to be mindful that some of
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  Speaker 2: these kids are here.
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  Speaker 3: Uh you know what I'm saying, Well, I do. Yeah, Look,
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  Speaker 3: I think I think it is possible for that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I don't have enough information to really make a call. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: how many people are on the trip? Do we know
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  Speaker 3: how old the kids are? These are things, But I
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  Speaker 3: do feel like sometimes a trip can pivot, Right, if
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  Speaker 3: we really want sister there with the kids, and she's
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  Speaker 3: coming with the kids, we can pivot the trip a
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  Speaker 3: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone could still have.
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  Speaker 3: The fun they want to have, still have the gas
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  Speaker 3: they want to gass.
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  Speaker 4: I'll also say the sister's not being realistic and that
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  Speaker 4: she won't have actually the best time she would have
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  Speaker 4: had because he's got to be mindful of her children
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  Speaker 4: the whole.
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  Speaker 1: Time, which but I mean she's with it, even if
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  Speaker 1: she stays at home. She's going with her child children. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so she's.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna go to them there, Oh one one eight thirty
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  Speaker 2: eight ninety four seven. Who's being unreasonable here? Zero eighty
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  Speaker 2: four double zero double zero nine four seven. Has this
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  Speaker 2: happened to you before where somebody comes into your guy's
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  Speaker 2: plans at the last minute and wants you guys to
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  Speaker 2: change the structure and the DNA of your plans purely
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  Speaker 2: because they want you guys to bend over backwards for them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they decided that bringing the kids and it
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  Speaker 3: was never discussed.
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  Speaker 1: But now we kids are coming with.
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  Speaker 2: It's even now we're going away, we say no partners
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  Speaker 2: at the airport here, who's that? Oh it's Jared, He's
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  Speaker 2: coming with. She must stay behind, Like what is this?
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  Speaker 2: What's the drama? And if the mom is gonna catch
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  Speaker 2: feelings learning she must stay with the kids.
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  Speaker 5: Then I think mom should babysit the kids and then
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  Speaker 5: the sisters go to the trip. I absolutely agree with
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  Speaker 5: an Eli it's assignment as a child free wedding. I'm
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  Speaker 5: planning my own weddings for October. We made the conscious decision.
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  Speaker 5: She not has kids at the wedding, and now i'm
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  Speaker 5: my future sister in more, she's having issues with it
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  Speaker 5: and all of that, and guys, we're doing it for
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  Speaker 5: a reason.
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  Speaker 2: The sister can catch the next trip honesty, or she
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  Speaker 2: can tend her own trip with kids.
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  Speaker 5: But this one, Jesus is no kids.
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  Speaker 2: And also there's six people going, and those six people
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  Speaker 2: decided no kids, and you, as the seventh one, want
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  Speaker 2: to bring kids. So now six people must must be
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  Speaker 2: slighted so that you can be happy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, like I say, it depends on how
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  Speaker 1: close we are. Right.
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  Speaker 3: If we're very close knit friends and family group and
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  Speaker 3: the two kids are coming worse, we can pivot, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I think if it's such a hand, you can't you
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  Speaker 3: like to stay home.
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  Speaker 1: It's not fair.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to how how much people
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice to go on holiday. People aren't just going on holidays.
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  Speaker 2: People can't just a.
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  Speaker 1: Fall to be on holiday. Yes, and this is a
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  Speaker 1: nice trip to Zanzibarra.
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  Speaker 2: And also I can hear people saying, yeah, maybe on
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  Speaker 2: the next one will be no kids. No, on the
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  Speaker 2: next one, we can have kids. This one here, the
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  Speaker 2: one that I have saved for for six months. I
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  Speaker 2: want what I want and there's no kids solo Good morning,
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  Speaker 2: And I learned the club morning toll from Florida. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think, guys, it's a grand mother's going to
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  Speaker 2: involve herself. Why can't she stay home with the kids.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe if the grandmother lives in another country or another
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  Speaker 2: town or another city, so it's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: slip to have the kids go to her and then
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  Speaker 2: you know back, I think not many of us as
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  Speaker 2: fortunate to have our moms just living down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe I live in Pretoria and my mother lives
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  Speaker 2: in Sashanguve, you know, and I have the same situation
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  Speaker 2: and my family doesn't live close by. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: willing to travel with those kids to Zanzibar, all kids
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  Speaker 2: must go to grandma.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I hear what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: If there's enough money for them to get on a
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  Speaker 2: flight and accommodation to Zanzibar, you've got enough money to
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  Speaker 2: send them off to grandma.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I can't actually fault that, right, I can't fault that.
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  Speaker 3: If you've got cash to bring them with on the trip.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I can think of, maybe Grandma can't
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  Speaker 3: look after them, right, maybe, but you can mouth wolf see,
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  Speaker 3: well you see what I deal with you? Yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: I can't. I can't fault logic here. Then go and
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  Speaker 3: live with Grandma. And if you're big enough to look
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  Speaker 3: after yourself on a trip to Zanzibar, you're big enough
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  Speaker 3: to look after yourself for Grandma.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly you've swiped me.
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  Speaker 2: Come on over to our side, folks, Come on over
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  Speaker 2: to our sides, say voice notes zero eight to four
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  Speaker 2: double zero double zero nine four seven. Has this ever
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  Speaker 2: happened to you? Are you currently in the situation where
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  Speaker 2: you say no kids and someone one hyena is going to.
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  Speaker 1: Insist, but I want to bring the kids with.
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  Speaker 2: But but sister could always afford the trip.
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  Speaker 1: How do you all of.
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  Speaker 5: A sudden afford to go on the trip and still
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  Speaker 5: bring the kids along?
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  Speaker 2: No, no kids, no kids?
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  Speaker 5: Like, what are you doing bringing the kids?
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  Speaker 1: And irrespective of the age.
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  Speaker 2: I don't put my opinion in because I don't have
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  Speaker 2: a child, And people will always say, oh, you don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's back to making your mourning and the
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  Speaker 2: club on nine four seven