Latest / I Do, Part 2 / Men Reveal (Anonymously) What They Hate About Their Wives
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hey that folks. It is Saturday, May twentieth, and I
- 0:05Speaker 1: often start by saying, hey, folks, but this time I'm
- 0:08Speaker 1: just gonna say, hey, ladies, got a question for you
- 0:12Speaker 1: out there. What would you think about this? Your man
- 0:17Speaker 1: has something about you that he absolutely hates, but he
- 0:22Speaker 1: loves you too much to actually tell you. Do you
- 0:27Speaker 1: still want to know? And with that, welcome to this
- 0:29Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ. Because now robes, maybe some
- 0:33Speaker 1: women will start to hear things because you've given men
- 0:36Speaker 1: an opportunity to say what they hate about their wives
- 0:41Speaker 1: under the cloak of anonymity.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Yes, I like to hear what other men say about
- 0:45Speaker 2: their wives, but I don't know that we any of
- 0:47Speaker 2: us want to hear what you have to say about us.
- 0:49Speaker 2: And by the way, it's May thirtieth. I just wanted
- 0:51Speaker 2: to point out you said May twentieth. I didn't want
- 0:54Speaker 2: to correct you.
- 0:55Speaker 1: That's something I hate maybe thirty. You know what, okay
- 1:00Speaker 1: twenty You know what, folks, every single time we do one,
- 1:03Speaker 1: and this will list you know this is we always
- 1:05Speaker 1: do these day out We're not we don't tape things
- 1:08Speaker 1: ahead of time, so we do these in real time. Yeah,
- 1:11Speaker 1: every single time we record one of these. My biggest
- 1:15Speaker 1: issue of every episode rodes what's the date?
- 1:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's your only issue. You are good
- 1:22Speaker 2: to go. You've read in, you do all the research.
- 1:25Speaker 2: You are a hard worker, and you are prepared when
- 1:28Speaker 2: you sit down and do whatever subject we're doing, you
- 1:31Speaker 2: know what's happening, what's going on. But you always struggle
- 1:35Speaker 2: with the date. And so I was chuckling when you said, Hey, there, everybody,
- 1:40Speaker 2: it's Saturday, May twentieth.
- 1:43Speaker 1: It's it's the thirty day. And I was debating and
- 1:45Speaker 1: just starting it over because I don't want people to
- 1:47Speaker 1: be thrown off. They might hear May twenty at at
- 1:49Speaker 1: the top and they go, ah, this is an old
- 1:50Speaker 1: one and move on. So I was kind of concerned
- 1:52Speaker 1: and wanted to start over. As I'm still talking to you,
- 1:54Speaker 1: I'm debating about whether or not we should because just
- 1:57Speaker 1: I don't want people to be thrown not the matter
- 1:59Speaker 1: of a mistake, but is that going to hurt downloads
- 2:01Speaker 1: of people say it's an old one? Seriously, I don't know.
- 2:05Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting topic. No matter what. We
- 2:07Speaker 2: can make a little joke and when people look at
- 2:09Speaker 2: the description, we'll say and by the way, don't be
- 2:11Speaker 2: thrown TJ makes a mistake.
- 2:13Speaker 1: This happens every time, folks. So what we sit here
- 2:16Speaker 1: and do? There's a big There was an audio board
- 2:18Speaker 1: next to me with six seven, eight eight panels that
- 2:24Speaker 1: I sold all the music you hear, you're doing it
- 2:26Speaker 1: on audio. I'm doing it all and right before we start.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Every single time before I start talking, I panic because
- 2:32Speaker 1: I start looking at four different devices. Shit, where's the date? Yes,
- 2:36Speaker 1: every single time.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Your mind is firing on twelve cylinders. And by the way,
- 2:40Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here chilling. So I'm just you know,
- 2:43Speaker 2: I'm watching you, and I just yes, wanted people to
- 2:45Speaker 2: know it is in fact me thirty.
- 2:47Speaker 1: So with all that, we talk about what wives hate
- 2:49Speaker 1: about their husbands. I hate what men hate about their wives.
- 2:54Speaker 1: I hate when I get corrected.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm kidding.
- 2:57Speaker 1: I I'm kidding. But this is something you were interested in,
- 3:01Speaker 1: and I don't know. Actually the results you looked at
- 3:04Speaker 1: this tell where it came from and why this was
- 3:05Speaker 1: such an interest to you.
- 3:06Speaker 2: That's okay. So BuzzFeed is always fun. So they their
- 3:09Speaker 2: big headline is married men are spilling things they hate
- 3:12Speaker 2: about their wives but would never tell them and OMG.
- 3:17Speaker 2: And then it shows that they actually got the idea
- 3:20Speaker 2: for this because they saw a Reddit post or a
- 3:23Speaker 2: thread that said, what is a harsh truth about marriage?
- 3:27Speaker 2: That you love your wife too much to ever say
- 3:29Speaker 2: out loud to her? And the men just started spilling.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I'm curious, is there something that you hate about me
- 3:36Speaker 2: that you will take to your grave hate?
- 3:38Speaker 1: That's tough, one, baby, That's a tough today if you
- 3:41Speaker 1: hate so. I know it's a strong word, and maybe
- 3:42Speaker 1: it's not. I have no idea what these end up being,
- 3:45Speaker 1: but roh, it's tough to feel so strongly about your mate,
- 3:51Speaker 1: any part of them, so strongly that I'm just going
- 3:54Speaker 1: to deal with it. I don't know. I'm so I'm
- 3:55Speaker 1: actually really really curious.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Well, you can just I feel like I would love
- 3:59Speaker 2: to know if you and I think some of these
- 4:01Speaker 2: I am guessing you probably feel to a degree. So
- 4:05Speaker 2: I'm going to go through. There are twenty one. I'm
- 4:07Speaker 2: going to pick basically the ten that stand out to
- 4:10Speaker 2: me that I think are the most interesting.
- 4:11Speaker 1: I am so sorry. I'm asking because I'm trying to
- 4:13Speaker 1: get clarity. There were two different headlines or titles. One
- 4:16Speaker 1: is something you hate so much you love it? What
- 4:19Speaker 1: was the second?
- 4:20Speaker 2: Basically, it's just that it'd be too cruel to say
- 4:23Speaker 2: out loud.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Cruel to say out loud.
- 4:25Speaker 2: You love her enough that you would never say it
- 4:27Speaker 2: out loud. But it's a harsh truth. It's still real.
- 4:30Speaker 2: It doesn't take away from the existence of this feeling,
- 4:33Speaker 2: but it's too harsh they believe to say out loud.
- 4:37Speaker 2: So they're on a Reddit post so that all of
- 4:40Speaker 2: us other women can read and say, ooh, do I
- 4:42Speaker 2: do that? Do I do that?
- 4:43Speaker 1: Do you do any of it?
- 4:45Speaker 2: Probably so, And actually one of them, I'm thinking, okay, okay,
- 4:49Speaker 2: here's one. Sometimes I feel suffocated by her clinginess and
- 4:53Speaker 2: lack of independence.
- 4:55Speaker 1: No, I could see why that's an issue, depending on
- 4:59Speaker 1: what I guess, the where you are, what your status
- 5:03Speaker 1: is in that relationship. We actually watch a lot of
- 5:05Speaker 1: dating shows, and sometimes somebody has too much power because
- 5:08Speaker 1: they have the money, or the other person is on
- 5:10Speaker 1: the fiance visa or whatever.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's an imbalance of power. But I
- 5:14Speaker 2: think oftentimes, I think all of us can be clingy,
- 5:17Speaker 2: and then there's some self recognition like, yeah, I need
- 5:20Speaker 2: to go figure this out on my I don't, but
- 5:23Speaker 2: I think some clinky Yeah, I don't think I've ever
- 5:26Speaker 2: been accused of that, but you tell me. I'm not sure.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Sometimes people just say they need space. They can go
- 5:31Speaker 1: either way. Okay, that's yeah, that'skays.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Her storytelling is equal parts boring, repetitive, and annoying. She
- 5:38Speaker 2: starts talking and you can watch people roll their eyes.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Um, no, you need to pull her aside. Well, you
- 5:48Speaker 1: know you need to. That's not showing that you love her,
- 5:51Speaker 1: that's showing how little you love her. If you cared
- 5:53Speaker 1: about that person, always say her. It could be a
- 5:56Speaker 1: man or a woman that they're actually you see them
- 5:58Speaker 1: doing things around other people or in public that are
- 6:01Speaker 1: actually not really a good look for them. You put
- 6:05Speaker 1: them to the side.
- 6:06Speaker 2: O it to her to tell her you get so
- 6:07Speaker 2: funny enough. This guy admitted she's now his ex wife,
- 6:10Speaker 2: So you're right he didn't love her enough to tell.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Her he actually didn't like her.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Yes, and that is a sign right there. All right,
- 6:16Speaker 2: here's another one. I want to tell her. For the
- 6:18Speaker 2: love of everything on Holy stop attributing intentional maliciousness automatically
- 6:24Speaker 2: when it's most likely stupidity or lack of awareness or
- 6:27Speaker 2: anything outside their narrow vision, always looking for an enemy.
- 6:32Speaker 1: That was very, very specific. Say that one again.
- 6:35Speaker 2: I want to tell her, for the love of everything
- 6:37Speaker 2: on Holy stop attributing intentional maliciousness automatically when it's most
- 6:43Speaker 2: likely stupidity or lack of awareness.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Okay, that is annoying. I think it's a tendency a
- 6:48Speaker 1: lot of people.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Have, right, enemy, you want to have something you're combating.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Look at what they did to me. How dare they?
- 6:55Speaker 1: Okay, yes, that's just interesting, But that's for anybody. That's
- 6:58Speaker 1: a bad attribute.
- 6:59Speaker 2: This funny Dealing with her was like walking on eggshells
- 7:03Speaker 2: every third week until menopause, and then it got worse.
- 7:07Speaker 2: So he's saying, basically, it was situation as well. It
- 7:10Speaker 2: said marriage was exhausting. They didn't go beyond it. But
- 7:13Speaker 2: the point being is every time she was on her
- 7:15Speaker 2: period and then when she got menopause, it was too much.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he didn't want to tell it to
- 7:20Speaker 2: her face, but.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Total what baby, Hey baby, this is happening. I know
- 7:25Speaker 1: you're going through this thing, but man, it is really
- 7:28Speaker 1: doing a number on our household. You can say that
- 7:31Speaker 1: lovingly and not just get mad because you're annoyed at her.
- 7:33Speaker 1: There's a way to go back.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Yes, And I actually think you're you know what. This
- 7:36Speaker 2: takes me back to journalism one O one, when you're
- 7:40Speaker 2: trying to ask people hard questions and it's uncomfortable because
- 7:43Speaker 2: you're right in front of them, staring at them. And
- 7:46Speaker 2: I have always believed you can say anything to anyone
- 7:49Speaker 2: as long as you say it with respect.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Yeah, you shouldn't be scared. Wow, these I wasn't expecting this. This,
- 7:57Speaker 1: you know what. This doesn't sound like women need to
- 8:00Speaker 1: change anything. This sounds like a bunch of guys are scared.
- 8:04Speaker 1: This is about your relationship. You could this is basic.
- 8:07Speaker 2: That's so interesting.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Tough robes.
- 8:09Speaker 2: I didn't think about that, but that is interesting. Okay,
- 8:11Speaker 2: this one, this one's tough. My biggest fear is how
- 8:16Speaker 2: much she is like her mother, Well, how much she
- 8:18Speaker 2: is like okay, yes, and I don't want to be
- 8:21Speaker 2: that my I don't want that to be my life
- 8:23Speaker 2: in thirty years. I think that's something that you wouldn't you.
- 8:26Speaker 2: I don't think you can say.
- 8:27Speaker 1: That because now you're now you're insulting her mama.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Correct. I don't think you can say that. I think
- 8:32Speaker 2: that's a tough one you might have to take to
- 8:33Speaker 2: your grave.
- 8:34Speaker 1: But that's also one robes that you shouldn't be worried about.
- 8:38Speaker 1: She is not her mama. She's not the only thing
- 8:43Speaker 1: you can do. And you do it before I get
- 8:45Speaker 1: a chance to do it. You go, oh my god,
- 8:47Speaker 1: I've become my mother.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Yet every every person does that. And then and you
- 8:51Speaker 2: see what you like, and you see what you don't like,
- 8:53Speaker 2: and you try to make change. You know what you
- 8:54Speaker 2: can do correct the or acknowledge the behavior. And you shouldn't.
- 8:57Speaker 2: I believe this. You should never compare someone to their mother,
- 9:02Speaker 2: to their father, to like to someone who you know
- 9:06Speaker 2: that or at least that your loved one knows you
- 9:09Speaker 2: don't like, because that's mean you can just address the behavior.
- 9:12Speaker 2: You don't have to compare it to a mom, because
- 9:15Speaker 2: that's when you start getting into dangerous territory.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Bro. That's a It reminds me, you know, I love
- 9:21Speaker 1: my stand up comedy. That was a comic once who
- 9:23Speaker 1: said the women win most of all, like all fights,
- 9:27Speaker 1: because they drop these little bombs in your head. And
- 9:30Speaker 1: he used this example. A woman at the end of
- 9:33Speaker 1: an argument will say something like calmly as anything say
- 9:36Speaker 1: you're stupid like your father, and the guy doesn't really
- 9:40Speaker 1: get it at the moment, but then he goes in
- 9:42Speaker 1: the basement and he festers for a little while, and
- 9:44Speaker 1: all of a sudden he explodes. That kind of thing
- 9:47Speaker 1: when you address somebody and compare in some way or
- 9:49Speaker 1: put down mama and daddy and omparison, that is always
- 9:54Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. If you, guys, if you
- 9:57Speaker 1: want to make this call about you don't want her
- 10:00Speaker 1: to become her mom, take her mom out to a
- 10:03Speaker 1: couple of lunches, couple of drinks. If you don't like that, lady,
- 10:06Speaker 1: break up with your girlfriend because that's who she's going
- 10:09Speaker 1: to become.
- 10:09Speaker 2: That's a good point. Yeah, and I think that is true, Like, yeah,
- 10:12Speaker 2: recognize and either say that's okay for me or it's not.
- 10:16Speaker 2: But I do think that's an interesting thing. Okay, this
- 10:18Speaker 2: next one. I had to look this up and I
- 10:20Speaker 2: asked you if you knew what this was, and you
- 10:21Speaker 2: said you didn't. I would never tell her that she's
- 10:25Speaker 2: a pillow princess.
- 10:26Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.
- 10:27Speaker 2: I didn't know what a pillow princess was. Either someone
- 10:30Speaker 2: who prefers to primarily receive pleasure during sex rather than
- 10:34Speaker 2: give it.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Ah, Now this is interesting. He doesn't want to tell
- 10:44Speaker 1: her she's a pillow princess. She knows, she knows, and
- 10:50Speaker 1: she's totally okay with it. She's been practicing this for
- 10:53Speaker 1: quite a while. She's yes, it's her thing. Now, Not
- 10:56Speaker 1: to tell her I have any of these relationships? Can continued?
- 11:01Speaker 2: No, yes, some of yes, these are supposedly married men.
- 11:05Speaker 2: There are a couple who were clearly divorced. But yes,
- 11:09Speaker 2: this next one. I think. At first I was like, oh,
- 11:13Speaker 2: hell no, you can't say this, and then he explained it.
- 11:16Speaker 2: I can't tell her that her family genetics don't seem
- 11:19Speaker 2: the best. Okay, that's like whoa. But then he went
- 11:23Speaker 2: on to say, no one in her family has lived
- 11:25Speaker 2: past seventy. I worry that as we get older, my
- 11:29Speaker 2: time with her is going to be limited. Once we retire,
- 11:32Speaker 2: it's only going to be a few years. I worry
- 11:36Speaker 2: that you will pass away and I'll become an angry,
- 11:38Speaker 2: bitter old man who's just waiting to die to see
- 11:40Speaker 2: her again. Oh that's kind of sweet, actually, and selfish.
- 11:45Speaker 1: I hear that totally differently. You're upset with your wife
- 11:49Speaker 1: because of genetics, you knew everything about her. Now, I
- 11:52Speaker 1: understand that can be a concern. So let's come together
- 11:54Speaker 1: and understand. Sweetheart, you know what your family history is.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Maybe we should be eating this, Maybe we should be
- 12:01Speaker 1: drinking this. Maybe we shouldn't be doing this, we should
- 12:05Speaker 1: be doing that. Well, if there's a way to do this,
- 12:07Speaker 1: like you're faulting her, I can't talk to you about none.
- 12:10Speaker 1: She can do about that. I have an awful family
- 12:12Speaker 1: history of cancer on my family I am with. I
- 12:15Speaker 1: have chosen to be with a woman who every six
- 12:18Speaker 1: months has to go get checked for markers to make
- 12:21Speaker 1: sure cancer doesn't come back. So what am I supposed
- 12:24Speaker 1: to do? I can't talk to you about it. This
- 12:25Speaker 1: is real. We have had conversations about cutting back on alcohol.
- 12:29Speaker 1: This is because of health robes. This is important. If
- 12:33Speaker 1: your time is limited with this lady, and you love
- 12:36Speaker 1: this lady like you circle it on the calendar seventy
- 12:39Speaker 1: she's gonna.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Die, right, That's kind of what he's done. This is
- 12:43Speaker 2: so fascinating, though, and I think to your point, I
- 12:45Speaker 2: hadn't really thought about it when I was reading through
- 12:47Speaker 2: these What you are saying that a lot of this
- 12:50Speaker 2: stuff that men are saying they can't tell their wives
- 12:54Speaker 2: they actually can and should and if they love them,
- 12:57Speaker 2: they would.
- 12:59Speaker 1: This whole goes to what we often talk about robes.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Relationships struggle and are bad because of communication and people
- 13:08Speaker 1: don't want to talk to each other. It's the relationship
- 13:10Speaker 1: isn't bad because she does this, this or this. The
- 13:13Speaker 1: relationship might be struggling because you won't talk to her
- 13:15Speaker 1: about it. The relationship might be struggling because there is
- 13:19Speaker 1: a difficult thing and you too don't feel like you
- 13:21Speaker 1: can talk about it. That is a sign of something else.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Stop it. I really thought this was going to go
- 13:27Speaker 1: a different direction, But just what's fascinatingship? One on one
- 13:30Speaker 1: and you.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Talk about, yes, lack of communication and when you don't
- 13:33Speaker 2: have proper communication and when you don't have trust to
- 13:36Speaker 2: communicate what you want to say because it should be
- 13:40Speaker 2: based from a place of love, or just that I
- 13:42Speaker 2: need you to love me differently, I need to you
- 13:44Speaker 2: to love me better. I need to explain to you
- 13:46Speaker 2: what I'm missing all of those things. I think if
- 13:49Speaker 2: you are in a loving relationship, the other partner, if
- 13:51Speaker 2: said correctly, wants to make sure you feel those things
- 13:55Speaker 2: and if you feel like you can't have that conversation,
- 13:57Speaker 2: there is an absolute lack of sum trust, right, And
- 14:00Speaker 2: what happens when you don't talk about things, resentment builds.
- 14:04Speaker 2: When we come back, these next few ones are doozies
- 14:07Speaker 2: and man, they spell resentment. But I'm curious if other
- 14:11Speaker 2: people think that they can't have these conversations with their
- 14:14Speaker 2: loved ones. Wait until you hear what these next few
- 14:17Speaker 2: men had to say. And welcome back everyone to this
- 14:28Speaker 2: fascinating episode of Amy and TJ where we are hearing
- 14:32Speaker 2: from men under the cloak of anonymity, initially from a
- 14:36Speaker 2: Reddit thread, but then BuzzFeed picked up on it about
- 14:38Speaker 2: what men are secretly feeling about their wives or their
- 14:42Speaker 2: significant others that they feel like they can't say to
- 14:46Speaker 2: their partner's face. And when you start to hear what
- 14:49Speaker 2: these men are saying, it's so interesting. How about this one.
- 14:55Speaker 2: I want to tell her, You'll never understand how much
- 14:59Speaker 2: more I've loved you than anyone ever will, because you
- 15:03Speaker 2: will never love anyone else more than you love yourself.
- 15:07Speaker 2: That's what he wants to tell his wife, but is
- 15:10Speaker 2: too afraid to.
- 15:12Speaker 1: He's afraid to tell her. Bottom line, that she behaves
- 15:15Speaker 1: selfishly correct, Okay, that's a real conversation to have that.
- 15:19Speaker 1: The thing you just read is insulting talking to her.
- 15:23Speaker 1: That's a real issue, baby, And that's okay. That's okay
- 15:27Speaker 1: to say, hey, babe, there are times that it seems
- 15:30Speaker 1: like all we do is what you want to do.
- 15:32Speaker 1: You don't pay attention to anything else. It's okay to
- 15:35Speaker 1: express how you feel without automatically being critical of that
- 15:38Speaker 1: other person. They might take it as criticism. But every
- 15:42Speaker 1: relationship we have to encourage speak up.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to say what you need. We aren't
- 15:47Speaker 2: women aren't, and certainly men aren't mind readers. And I
- 15:50Speaker 2: think maybe we treat one another like you should be.
- 15:53Speaker 2: You should know what I want, you should know what
- 15:56Speaker 2: I need. And that's where you start to have problems.
- 15:59Speaker 2: This next one one is wild to me that he
- 16:01Speaker 2: can't have a conversation. And I'm wondering if you think
- 16:04Speaker 2: most men are afraid of their wives, because listen to
- 16:07Speaker 2: this next one. I'd never tell her that she goes
- 16:10Speaker 2: out of her way for everyone else in our house
- 16:13Speaker 2: except me.
- 16:16Speaker 1: You never tell her that. Well, I would hate for
- 16:18Speaker 1: you to say it that way. Yeah, yes, no, wonder
- 16:22Speaker 1: you can't tell her, Hey, babe, you go out of
- 16:24Speaker 1: your way for everybody here but me. How do you
- 16:26Speaker 1: think that's gonna go. If that's a real thing, that
- 16:29Speaker 1: you actually feel like you're missing something in a relationship
- 16:32Speaker 1: in the household, Robes, open your mouth. Every single one
- 16:35Speaker 1: of these sounds like a problem with the man.
- 16:37Speaker 2: It makes me think that all these men are too afraid,
- 16:41Speaker 2: I'll just say it in a nice way to actually
- 16:44Speaker 2: speak up and tell their wives what they want to need,
- 16:46Speaker 2: and instead probably use a lot of this as an
- 16:48Speaker 2: excuse to go out and get something on the side
- 16:51Speaker 2: where they feel like the man.
- 16:54Speaker 1: I won't even go that that far, Robes, But everything
- 17:00Speaker 1: the onus is on the woman for making me feel
- 17:03Speaker 1: comfortable to open my mouth. Now, there are realities in relationships,
- 17:08Speaker 1: we get it, and the dynamics are different. But every
- 17:11Speaker 1: single one of these is not Robes. It doesn't sound
- 17:15Speaker 1: I'm afraid, she's gonna watch, she's gonna get upset, she's
- 17:17Speaker 1: gonna yell, she's gonna leave me, she's gonna all of
- 17:20Speaker 1: this stuff. Every man here has a legitimate complaint, like
- 17:25Speaker 1: a legitimate relationship issue, but they're just not going about
- 17:30Speaker 1: thinking of bringing it up the right way or thinking
- 17:34Speaker 1: they're even worthy robes of a discussion.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and you, I will say, you have had conversations
- 17:41Speaker 2: with me and say, babe, can we have a moment
- 17:43Speaker 2: to talk. And I don't want you to get upset,
- 17:45Speaker 2: but something has been happening that's been bothering me, and
- 17:48Speaker 2: I'm like, please tell me. And most of the time
- 17:51Speaker 2: I didn't even know it wasn't even on my radar.
- 17:54Speaker 2: And so to have these conversations is so helpful. This one,
- 17:57Speaker 2: this next one through me. Oh, I want to tell her.
- 18:03Speaker 2: The fact that you want to work out and be
- 18:06Speaker 2: a hot mom now after having the baby is incredibly
- 18:10Speaker 2: insulting to me because I've been trying to get you
- 18:14Speaker 2: to be healthy with me for years. Say what, I.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Hope he takes it we go. I mean, I hope
- 18:21Speaker 1: he takes a moment. She wants to better herself and
- 18:24Speaker 1: look better, and you have a problem.
- 18:25Speaker 2: With it because it's the baby, not him. That's so
- 18:28Speaker 2: that one actually blew my mind.
- 18:31Speaker 1: I mean, don't. It's it's fair to say that there
- 18:33Speaker 1: was probably more work to do, or she felt more
- 18:36Speaker 1: work to do after her body just went through nine
- 18:39Speaker 1: months of car Okay, and Obviously we don't know what
- 18:42Speaker 1: she looked like, or what health was or anything else.
- 18:44Speaker 1: But the way he framed that is that this was
- 18:48Speaker 1: But we talked about rejection robes. Here's a real one.
- 18:52Speaker 1: I will say this. Aha, I have one to add
- 18:55Speaker 1: to the list. Okay, And I've talked to you about
- 18:57Speaker 1: this before. This can be a thing. It relates to this.
- 19:03Speaker 1: You will go get your nails done, you will go
- 19:06Speaker 1: get your hair done, you will go through all kinds
- 19:09Speaker 1: of makeup. I'm gonna go buy a new dress and
- 19:12Speaker 1: all these things when it has to do with somebody
- 19:17Speaker 1: else or some other event and it doesn't feel like, Wow,
- 19:21Speaker 1: you don't go through that exercise and put that much
- 19:23Speaker 1: effort into looking good around here when it comes to
- 19:26Speaker 1: us even a night out. But wow, so and so
- 19:29Speaker 1: one is coming to town, or hm, you got a
- 19:32Speaker 1: lunch here, or wow, you're going with the girls for
- 19:35Speaker 1: a thing and you're really getting dulled up. Now, that
- 19:38Speaker 1: is something that I will say. Is is a conversation
- 19:44Speaker 1: and something that has been on men's minds. And I've
- 19:46Speaker 1: talked to you about this before.
- 19:47Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, there's a version of that, all right,
- 19:51Speaker 2: This one, this is so interesting, and again I think
- 19:57Speaker 2: this speaks to the relationationship. Okay, the harsh truth is
- 20:02Speaker 2: that we aren't best friends. She doesn't care enough about
- 20:07Speaker 2: me to be my best friend. She wants me to
- 20:09Speaker 2: care about her and everything about her life, but doesn't
- 20:12Speaker 2: reciprocate when I do tell her stories. They are too
- 20:16Speaker 2: long for her. I go on forever, she says, get
- 20:19Speaker 2: to the point. But she will talk for hours and
- 20:22Speaker 2: I'm supposed to stay attentive. Yes, I can never open
- 20:25Speaker 2: up because I don't trust her to do any good
- 20:28Speaker 2: with my words or feelings. She just uses them against
- 20:30Speaker 2: me somehow, and not right away, like a stewed missile
- 20:34Speaker 2: when she's ready to launch.
- 20:36Speaker 1: It's that's a legitimate relationship issue, and that could go
- 20:41Speaker 1: both ways. That's a legitimate relationship issue issue. She should
- 20:45Speaker 1: be willing to talk about it. Now. Some of it
- 20:48Speaker 1: I wonder, like, Wow, it seems a little a little
- 20:52Speaker 1: nitpicky and very specific. But that is a real thing
- 20:56Speaker 1: in relationship.
- 20:57Speaker 2: That might just be a symptom. And it seems like
- 20:59Speaker 2: that's a sin of a much larger problem. And it
- 21:02Speaker 2: has to do with respect and resentment. Oh, she doesn't
- 21:05Speaker 2: have any, and he has a lot of it. Oh yeah,
- 21:07Speaker 2: and that's and that's built up over time.
- 21:09Speaker 1: They're done, if not already.
- 21:11Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, this one was interesting. I want
- 21:14Speaker 2: to tell her I'm concerned your kindness and gentleness. Uh oh,
- 21:20Speaker 2: I just got an ad. Sorry, your kindness and gentleness
- 21:22Speaker 2: will cause our sons to be undisciplined and create harm.
- 21:27Speaker 1: That's a parenting issue. We got to talk. Yeah, that's all.
- 21:31Speaker 1: We have to talk about how we're going about parenting.
- 21:32Speaker 1: And that's that can evolve people are in the house
- 21:35Speaker 1: and have do different ways of going about things. But no,
- 21:37Speaker 1: it's a that's a legitimate issue about parenting that you
- 21:41Speaker 1: have to speak about it.
- 21:42Speaker 2: I agree, And I'm going to end with this one
- 21:43Speaker 2: because I feel like I feel like you and I
- 21:47Speaker 2: might actually have experienced this. This is interesting, but it's
- 21:51Speaker 2: it's kind of a this is I'm going to end
- 21:53Speaker 2: on a positive note because yes, this is a harsh
- 21:56Speaker 2: truth or something that he would never say out loud,
- 21:59Speaker 2: But this one for me, sometimes I miss her before
- 22:04Speaker 2: anything has even gone wrong, Like there are moments when
- 22:07Speaker 2: I look at her and I feel this quiet fear
- 22:10Speaker 2: of loss that I would never say out loud because
- 22:13Speaker 2: it would just worry her and there is nothing to
- 22:15Speaker 2: be done about it anyway. Loving someone that much is
- 22:18Speaker 2: its own kind of vulnerability that nobody really prepares you for.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Sometimes you've made jokes to me, like you know, you
- 22:25Speaker 2: know whatever about our relationship, about like why can't it?
- 22:30Speaker 2: Why can't because you start worrying about it. It's so good,
- 22:32Speaker 2: You're worrying about it going wrong, and you don't want
- 22:35Speaker 2: to express it because that would create fear. But I
- 22:38Speaker 2: thought that was sweet. I miss her before anything has
- 22:40Speaker 2: even gone wrong, Like he's already preparing to lose her,
- 22:43Speaker 2: preparing for it to end, or kind of worried about
- 22:47Speaker 2: it somehow not working out.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a self fulfilling prophecy. Absolutely,
- 22:52Speaker 1: you put yourself in that mindset. Yes, of course it's
- 22:55Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. It's going to go wrong.
- 22:57Speaker 1: How I understand. I understand you say it's kind of sweet,
- 23:00Speaker 1: but we all we understand you cannot continue your life
- 23:04Speaker 1: in fear. You just that's no way to live. The
- 23:07Speaker 1: courage is not just going through it. Courage is actually
- 23:13Speaker 1: feeling the fear and doing the thing anyway. So you've
- 23:15Speaker 1: got to be courageous in love, and you can't be
- 23:17Speaker 1: scared of law ropes. Isn't that a recipe for disasters?
- 23:21Speaker 2: Yes?
- 23:21Speaker 1: Fearing loss?
- 23:22Speaker 2: Yes, But I think if we're all we all have
- 23:25Speaker 2: a little a little bit of it in our heads.
- 23:26Speaker 2: But I think we can just recognize it and say, wow,
- 23:29Speaker 2: that means I love someone that much. That means I
- 23:31Speaker 2: am so vulnerable and yeah, my heart is living outside
- 23:34Speaker 2: of me right now, and that's something that's beautiful. You
- 23:37Speaker 2: can just acknowledge the feeling and flip it on its
- 23:39Speaker 2: head and say, Wow, how lucky am I that I
- 23:42Speaker 2: love someone that much?
- 23:43Speaker 1: Man, it's scared to lose somebody is uh, it's not
- 23:47Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna cause you behave in ways that aren't
- 23:51Speaker 1: conducive to a successful relationship.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Yeah, but this was actually really eye opening and surprising
- 23:56Speaker 2: to me. And I'm actually surprised it was surprising to
- 23:59Speaker 2: you that you weren't like this wasn't something because a
- 24:02Speaker 2: lot of these lists other a man will read and go,
- 24:05Speaker 2: oh yeah me too, Oh my god, I feel so seen.
- 24:07Speaker 2: I'm feeling validated. You were kind of like, well, I
- 24:11Speaker 2: guess we've lived a lot of life now we have,
- 24:14Speaker 2: and yeah.
- 24:15Speaker 1: That's it. Really, Maybe that's it rose. But everything the
- 24:18Speaker 1: fellows bring up there really are once you get to
- 24:21Speaker 1: a point, this is like, it's core relationship stuff. And
- 24:27Speaker 1: yes it's difficult for some. It's yes, you have to
- 24:30Speaker 1: get to that point. So I'm not just saying, oh,
- 24:32Speaker 1: you idiots, you need to come around. No, but roads
- 24:34Speaker 1: all those things. After you lived enough life, have enough
- 24:37Speaker 1: relationships and experienced enough roads, all those things sound like
- 24:42Speaker 1: they become basics. They become necessities to a successful relationship.
- 24:48Speaker 1: And success is not just being together.
- 24:50Speaker 2: No, it's not. And we know that. And it's funny
- 24:52Speaker 2: because one of the com because you know, people comment
- 24:55Speaker 2: on what these men are saying. I think this one
- 24:58Speaker 2: is so true. Eighty percent of these guys should not
- 25:01Speaker 2: be married to their wives. Yeah, oh yeah, marriage should
- 25:04Speaker 2: not be miserable. The other twenty percent are sweet and
- 25:07Speaker 2: kind of sad. I think that actually is probably pretty true.
- 25:11Speaker 1: That probably goes along with divorce statistics.
- 25:15Speaker 2: All right, well, I hope that was enlightening to many
- 25:20Speaker 2: of you listening. We always appreciate you coming along with us.
- 25:24Speaker 2: I'm am you roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to
- 25:26Speaker 2: you soon.