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The Tale of the OnlyFans Whale Who Told the Truth · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Oh right, right.
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  Speaker 2: Where a welcome to many, maintain frame the tail, the
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  Speaker 2: only fans where we're going to be looking at a
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  Speaker 2: pretty video that character of booksmack guy vicular who I
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  Speaker 2: guess he was looking to like to like, uh do
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  Speaker 2: something something interesting.
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  Speaker 1: They had only.
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  Speaker 2: Fan fans model model. I'm gonna I'm gonna be charitable,
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  Speaker 2: charitable model model. I don't know, don't know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know that is, I know, I know it's all like
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  Speaker 2: like you know, measures with.
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  Speaker 3: With advanced theoretical physics.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, involves where the lions and basically the parular brought
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  Speaker 3: you just want to get it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just play it all right? So this was
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  Speaker 2: this is the original full context video. It's about fourteen minutes,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, we don't have to watch the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: And Clovicular, I assume you guys don't know who Clovicular is.
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  Speaker 2: He's like a I don't know, imber it was an influencer.
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  Speaker 1: He's like known as the looks maxer.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and uh yeah, how at work? Like just play?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: But no, I think looks maxing is more about like
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  Speaker 2: maximizing personal advancement. Although he's he has talked about, like
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  Speaker 2: you know, to create his jawline, he like hits it
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  Speaker 2: with a hammer and he's done like meth and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. And he's actually had like overdosed once or twice.
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  Speaker 2: So kind of a tragic figure, to be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Can you try stability maxing instead?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean by that.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, acting like a stable human being?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think he's just I think he's just bought
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  Speaker 1: into this, I mean about Clavicular. But yeah, no, he's
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  Speaker 1: he's on he's on all this streaming platforms like Kick
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  Speaker 1: and Twitch and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean he's basically like doing he's trying to maximize his uh,
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  Speaker 2: sexual market value, and I think he has done it.
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  Speaker 1: He basically has become like a big, a big deal
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  Speaker 1: you know online.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so a man who has a meth habit and
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  Speaker 3: hits his jaw with the hammer has maximized I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm I think I'm like I must I guess
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  Speaker 3: I'm from another era. Yes, okay, all right, well that's
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  Speaker 3: that's the interest. I'm guessing this lovely lady thinking to
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  Speaker 3: avail us of her opinions on string theory.
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  Speaker 2: Either well let me let let's put it this way, clavicular,
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  Speaker 2: say whatever you want about him from what he has done,
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  Speaker 2: but he is now in a position where he gets
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  Speaker 2: you know, massive uh. He draws a massive audience, and
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  Speaker 2: he surrounds himself with women who all want to be
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  Speaker 2: with him.
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  Speaker 1: They all want to be the one. And I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that those.
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  Speaker 2: Women aren't like necessarily high quality, but you know, they
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  Speaker 2: are considered. Again, it's like this very shallow, surface level.
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  Speaker 1: Way of seeing things.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, like there the women want him
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  Speaker 2: because they think he's attractive and they also know that
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  Speaker 2: he's my status and they compete for him. So whether
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  Speaker 2: or not you agree with the morality or the ethics
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  Speaker 2: of it, I mean I don't. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: how this you know, that's like the best way to
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  Speaker 2: like even start to look for someone. But it has
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  Speaker 2: worked for him. So this is like the thing that
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  Speaker 2: I guess it posits is you know, where are we
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  Speaker 2: as a society? Yeah, that there are men that are
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  Speaker 2: like I think I'm gonna hit myself in the face
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  Speaker 2: with the hammer, And do you know microdoes meth and
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  Speaker 2: do testosterone or other steroids and go to the gym
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  Speaker 2: every day to like try to attract a woman, and
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  Speaker 2: then uh, and then they do because women are like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I like I like that in a man, I want that.
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  Speaker 2: And then so he's just demonstrating that it works. So
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  Speaker 2: you can't hate him for that.
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  Speaker 1: He's just like, oh, I don't, I don't hate him.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know, you don't hate him, But I'm just
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  Speaker 2: saying like, if he tried to be normal, it probably
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have gotten him.
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  Speaker 3: But the other thing is like, and this is that
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  Speaker 3: generation of men has lower testosterone than any generation like
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  Speaker 3: our generation. I think we were the last generation with
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  Speaker 3: normal levels, so you can sort of understand why they'd
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  Speaker 3: want to do something about that.
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  Speaker 1: At least that would Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I had a woman in the column, it's
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  Speaker 3: a young lady in the comments to these videos talking
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  Speaker 3: about how she doesn't want any man in this generation
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  Speaker 3: because they got low testosterone, and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's not it's not their fault.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like they came out of the woman like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I don't think I want to have.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't want a normal level of male testosterone. I think
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  Speaker 3: they're like at sixty year old male, like from our generation,
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  Speaker 3: you'd have to be sixty to have the same level. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And that's actually really sad and not their fault because
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  Speaker 3: it's all like environmental toxins and stuff like that, or
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  Speaker 3: just birth control pills and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Birth control, environmental microplastics, just the way.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's over.
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  Speaker 1: Children from their fathers. Maybe I think that that might
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  Speaker 1: affect their.
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  Speaker 3: Cortisol, suppression of testosterone, constant identity threat because of feminism's
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  Speaker 3: bullshit of stuff. So no, I don't like, I'm just
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  Speaker 3: I just it's more like a how far have we
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  Speaker 3: fallen kind of thing. M hm, and these two is
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be another example of that, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: explain as we get to it. But yeah, let's let's continue.
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  Speaker 2: Let's play this. This is where he introduces this woman.
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  Speaker 2: Her name is h A rosen Bomb or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not joking. That's her name, and she's an only
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  Speaker 2: fans creator and this is her meeting her top.
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  Speaker 1: Supporter. I guess fund Thunder.
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  Speaker 6: It's nice to finally meet you. You're much bad in person,
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  Speaker 6: you're much bad in.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's like the first thing out of his mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let mean, let me let me take a gander. Well,
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  Speaker 3: she wears it, well, at least I think. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a man, so I can't say for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Boy cowdy, she's like a giant test compared to Clavikrug.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think he's Yeah, he looks a little small,
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  Speaker 2: but I think he's like in the background too, so
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  Speaker 2: it could be the lens.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't think he's six foot tall though.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's six foot I think he's like
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  Speaker 2: below the six foot limit. This is all the other
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  Speaker 2: stuff is to make up for it. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that he's uh, but I don't really know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, like, well, the other dude is pretty big too,
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  Speaker 3: Like he seems pretty hat. I just he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm chilling here. I'm just telling you the truth, lady.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't seem very aggressive about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think he's a spurg. I mean, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: gonna I watched the whole video this guy. This guy
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  Speaker 2: is definitely on the spectrum, and I think that's what.
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  Speaker 1: He has, like no filter, let's say, no filter, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: no filter, he just says. And you can tell his
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  Speaker 1: manner of speech too, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But anyway, Okay, so she's laughing about that, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: A little Well she's shocked probably, but like, yeah, she's well,
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  Speaker 2: she can't help but laugh. I don't think it's like
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  Speaker 2: a happy laugh. I think it's like a nervous laugh.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, And m I'm Alice Rosenbloom. I'm going to see
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  Speaker 3: what she sells. I have a suspicion.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, okay, keep going, okay, I'll keep going, Oh
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  Speaker 8: my god, he is awkward.
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  Speaker 7: What kind of things about you? Into? I don't really
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  Speaker 7: want to talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: That was so mean Okay, get.
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  Speaker 9: To pass like he's given you like millions, right.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He can't, she can't.
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  Speaker 1: Old Gop super awkward. This guy is super awkward.
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  Speaker 3: The the your drag of stupidity on her brain is
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  Speaker 3: starting to offend me.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't she come up with something witty?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she's the kind of person that has
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  Speaker 2: like really deep you have deep conversations with I think
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  Speaker 2: that's why she's an only fans, so, I mean she's
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  Speaker 2: probably never had to offer anything else too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it is rude, and.
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  Speaker 2: She's again this is a surprise, like Clivicular sprung this
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  Speaker 2: on her. You know, like she probably thought that she
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  Speaker 2: was meeting up with him for some other reason. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: they're just gonna stream together. You know a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times these like influencers, they like kind of use each other.
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  Speaker 1: To like, you know, lift up their status.
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  Speaker 2: This is what we saw in the Inside the Manisphere
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  Speaker 2: documentary where hs Tikie Talkie would have other female influencers
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  Speaker 2: like he was with Bonnie Blue, for example, and they
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  Speaker 2: were using each other to like increase their you know,
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  Speaker 2: clout or increase their audience size by working together, by collaborating.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's what she expected, and maybe that
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  Speaker 2: is what most of the stream was. Now this is
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  Speaker 2: from Clovicular himself from what I know, but he wanted
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  Speaker 2: to spring this on her, and maybe for him this
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  Speaker 2: was just content, like, oh, here's another opportunity for content.
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  Speaker 2: Let's bring one of her biggest supporters. Look at how
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  Speaker 2: weird this guy is. This guy is super awkward. He's
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  Speaker 2: probably doesn't have any friends, he's probably addicted to porn
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  Speaker 2: and let and let's see how they interact.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, this is what this is about.
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  Speaker 2: So she's probably just completely taken off, taken by surprise.
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  Speaker 2: And it's also one of those things that were she
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  Speaker 2: probably never thought she would ever have to actually meet
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  Speaker 2: one of the people who is basically like paying her
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  Speaker 2: rent and bills.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, well she's taken that much money off of
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  Speaker 3: She could say something like, well, I won't charge the extra.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I won't.
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  Speaker 3: Charge you for the extra or something. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: and it is embarrassing, I guess. Yeah, so she must
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  Speaker 3: not interact with him at all.
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  Speaker 9: Really, m I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know that that. Let's never even.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to him outside of this this circumstance. He's a
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  Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands, and she never even says, hi, you
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  Speaker 3: you seem to like my work. That's uh, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: an interesting thing, unless he's just really quiet. But I
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  Speaker 3: also like to point out that, you know, you scrub
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  Speaker 3: off the makeup and the flattering haircut, and they're much
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  Speaker 3: closer to looks match than you might expect, you know,
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  Speaker 3: at least in my opinion. But uh, I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: guess she's cute, but I don't think that she's you know,
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  Speaker 3: like Hollywood hot.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's sort of like background, extra, background.
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  Speaker 3: Extra, That's probably a good way of putting it. And
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  Speaker 3: he's not, like, he's not hideous, right, So what's really
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  Speaker 3: interesting to me is that in a better world these
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  Speaker 3: two probably would be married and she would be legitimately
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  Speaker 3: having access to however millions of money he makes doing
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  Speaker 3: software programming, probably right, and it would be a much
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  Speaker 3: better world, I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Oh sure, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that it's this world, I don't know. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I looked up Alice Rosenblum's OnlyFans and I was
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  Speaker 3: greatly disappointed to find out that it is an adult
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  Speaker 3: subscription account that mainly sells bikini lude modeling photos on
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  Speaker 3: the main feed with explicit nude and sexual content sold
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  Speaker 3: separately as pay per view messages main subscription content. Her
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  Speaker 3: timeline is described by subscribers subscribers as bikini gym content. Jim,
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  Speaker 3: that's very, very similar to what she posts on Instagram.
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  Speaker 11: Mmm.
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  Speaker 3: One detailed review notes around one hundred and eighty three
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  Speaker 3: photos and a handful of short videos, mostly bikini and
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  Speaker 3: Tea's style material on the regular feed. All Right, Okay, so,
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  Speaker 3: according to subscriber reviews, anything more explicit than bikini content
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  Speaker 3: is typically sold as pay perview rather than included in
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  Speaker 3: the base subscription. Interesting, okay, all right, So basically she
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  Speaker 3: just sells her body. Yeah, that's it. That's just that's
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  Speaker 3: what she does.
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  Speaker 1: Hm.
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  Speaker 3: All right. And obviously from this performance, she doesn't have WIT,
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't have verbal you know, repartee, So why is
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: she even going on a.
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  Speaker 1: Stream again, She's she's trying to use.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know for sure, So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like i'm I'm I'm I'm completely speculating here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just guessing.
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  Speaker 2: She she collaborates with other influencers for the same reason
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  Speaker 2: that other influencers do it.
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  Speaker 1: She's looking to raise her profile. She's trying to become
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  Speaker 1: more famous.
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  Speaker 2: She thinks Clavicular will help her with that because he's
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  Speaker 2: very very well known. So he's just basically like and
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  Speaker 2: she is now because I didn't know who this was.
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  Speaker 1: She was just another OnlyFans chick.
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  Speaker 2: Right now that this video clip of her confronting one
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  Speaker 2: of her Joe's or whatever John's is going viral and
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  Speaker 2: everyone's having has a take success, she is now more
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  Speaker 2: well known and maybe she will and this is the
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  Speaker 2: real unfortunate part is that she'll probably just get more OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 1: Subscribers following her.
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  Speaker 2: She'll probably make more money, and so like you know
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  Speaker 2: that that's the other The other part of this is that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's she's embarrassed because she kind of has
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  Speaker 2: to look at you know, like what she basically gets
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  Speaker 2: a for first hand experience of what it is that
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  Speaker 2: she is selling and who it's being sold to. Like
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  Speaker 2: because I'm sure she claims that she does talk to
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  Speaker 2: her fans, and he thinks that she does too, but
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  Speaker 2: Clovicio thinks that she's he's not actually talking to her
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  Speaker 2: because it's like text, you know, it's like messages like
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  Speaker 2: emails and dms and stuff and Clavis saying, she's not
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: talking to you, you know, you're probably talking to some Filipino.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like it's like answering the responses kind of like what,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: you know, what Andrew Tate? What what he got into
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  Speaker 2: so much hot water for We would say that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there'd be there wouldn't be a woman. These guys would
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  Speaker 2: think they're talking to a woman, They're talking to me
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  Speaker 2: something like that, right, And.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can.
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  Speaker 2: Call it exploitative, you can call it a shitty but
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, those guys chose to
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  Speaker 2: do that, and I don't think that, Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: my thing is is that I think almost everyone on
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  Speaker 2: this panel is kind of like garbage, except for maybe Clivicular,
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  Speaker 2: and even then I got a lot of things that
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  Speaker 2: I could disagree with him on, but he's actually kind
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  Speaker 2: of like considered doing this. Maybe it's just prospectacle, but
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  Speaker 2: the effects of this, it should it should make people think.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, unfortunately, I don't think it's going to
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  Speaker 2: do much. I think that she's just going to keep
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  Speaker 2: making money, all right.
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  Speaker 3: So somebody in the chat is saying that we're you're
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: dealing with an echo, and I've noticed that you're having
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  Speaker 3: a bit of artifacting Brian, I don't know if that's mine.
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  Speaker 1: I still am I still echoing right now.
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  Speaker 3: I well, not to me, but that's what I'm seeing.
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  Speaker 1: In the chat asking Yeah, that was in the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're doing a little robo for me, so on, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see here. Yeah, this is a bit yellow.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's because it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like you're entertaining the robo sexuals.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: No, they're saying not on rumble, no echo.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, maybe it's just a YouTube thing. I don't even
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: know if if they're hearing the same distortion I am.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: It could be my internet, who knows. Yeah, all right,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: so is there anything more besides him just being a
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: sperg and being rude, Like, yeah, it's rude, but you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna put yourselfself out in the public, you're
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: gonna get that, especially if you're gonna put yourself out
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: in the public. Tests first. I mean, it's funny because
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: she's just like, Okay, well, this is my body, this
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: is what I'm selling, and he's like, well, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: the merchandise is a bit a bit more than I
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: was expecting.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: And then she said, well, there's some there's something else
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to this too.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's actually interesting. Lindsay and I talked about it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: But we'll play some more of it. So, yeah, he
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: comes in, he calls her, He says, you're fatter than
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: you're much fatter in personal right. Let's keep let's keep
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: going though, because I do think there's something that I
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: think he's doing or trying to do, that I think
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: is worth highlighting.
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: Are you looking at me because I'm scared?
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're not scared?
• 19:59
  Speaker 11: Are you?
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: I don't like, I don't know, no, Like, God, damn, it's.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: What, Well, she's scared, she's she's she's scared now while
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: laughing and uh looking Well, I mean I don't think
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: that's fear. I think it's a threat to your ego.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Oh did you want to say something, Brian.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Well, I mean I think that she's uncomfortable,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and I think that discomfort for people who are accustomed
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to comfort all the time could feel like fear. But
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I think that she's just Yeah, she's being on the spot.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: She doesn't like that. She's afraid for her reputation.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: She's not.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know that she thinks this guy is a
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: threat to her. But maybe she does think that because
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: you know, collapse frung this on her. Maybe she thinks
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: all the men are now a threat to her. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: don't I Don'm not saying it's rational, but it's what
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: she's claiming.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Oh.
• 21:05
  Speaker 11: Like most of them are like the scripted, fake podcast,
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: but this motherfucker's like actually your top center.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: So I want to know, what do you think to
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: the table dating wise way, I'm sorry, guys, I can't
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: owe nothing.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: You're buying it already, dude.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Like, I think he's I think he's seen the table.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I think he's seen the entire table and what's inside
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the drawers and the entire you see the entire spread.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: So here's what I think is going on here, and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I want I want you guys to like tell me
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I think this guy is an autist.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I think he's completely socially awkward. He has no filter,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: he doesn't know how to talk to people. He probably
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot of friends. But but I think
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: that he thinks he has an opportunity here to pick
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: this woman up because now he's in her presence.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And the truth is, I'm sure they.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He likes her, But what he's doing is he's trying
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: to do what he heard he's doing like pue tactics.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: So he comes in and he negs.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Her right away, you're fatter in person, because he thinks
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: it would work for him, you know how, Like so
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: this is what I think he's doing.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I think he's trying to do like man is Sphere,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: red Pill, Puwe tactics on this chick. That's why he's saying,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: what do you bring to the table, and you're fatter
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: in person?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: He's negging her and he's challenging her, And I think
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: that he doesn't understand that that kind of stuff doesn't
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: work for most men, like average. I think he's an
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: average guy in other respects other than being a spurg.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: But I think that he thinks that because again he's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: just like applying the system, like Okay, so I'm gonna
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: meet her, what are you gonna do? I'm gonna negger
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: because that's what all of the other dudes do. They're
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: very successful with men. Clav clovicular he negs women all
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the time, and he does it for fun, right, But
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: for Clive it works because he's good looking guy. So
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the women want that right, so but this guy doesn't.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: He doesn't make that connection. It's kind of like how
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I've been saying that, you know, when people talk about
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: how harmful the.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Manisphere is, because the men and the manisphere are going
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: to use women. They're gonna do these things to them,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna, like, i don't know, like abandon them
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: in some way or hurt their feelings or break their
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: hearts or whatever. And I'm like, no, because most of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the men, most men can't do that stuff.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: It's a very slim it's a very small percentage of
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: men that can actually be in a position where they
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: could hurt a woman's feelings, you know, because they didn't
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: want to commit or whatever. It's a very small percentage
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: of men that will actually have sexual access, you know.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: And this guy is not one of those men, but
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: he thinks he could be because he's a sperg.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So he just sees like, you know, like he's just
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: applying the strat like it's a video game. I just
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: do the strat and it'll work because it's it's because
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: as they told me it would. But it doesn't work
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: for him because he's not that guy.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: So you are going robo.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: It's not just me, am I gosh, well, I don't
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: know what I should do.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: It's probably an Internet issue on your end. Well, guys,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: we're just gonna have to play to the robosexuals in
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: the audience.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Can you guys not hear me at all?
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: No? I think they can. It's just it's just a
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: slight little lum extra.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: One thing I could do. I could change my microphone,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: but I don't think.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's an Internet thing. Neger please, that's what
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Shelman King said. You know, it's god. This is the
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: human race has really screwed itself in terms of it's
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: pair bonding. I must say, this is like, this is
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: this is some serious on everybody's part. This is some
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: seriously like I don't know how what's the right word for.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: This they're saying. They're saying I sound fine for ever
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that they say, they say I sound fine for them.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So it's just I think it's just.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Me and apparently Art for ze. So it's just me
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and the Germans who are having problems. That's that's pretty typical, honestly.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this just seems really pathetic, Like everybody everything here,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: it's all just like, why are you giving millions to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: a woman who does not want you? Okay, right, if
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: you're that hard up, just go go to the Southeast Asia,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. And Uh, I don't know what to say
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: about her, because thank you for continuing the destruction of
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: our society. And uh, Clavicular, I can't. I can't blame
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you for playing the game and winning, but it sort
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: of disturbs me what the game is this point? Really,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: what we should be seeing is as her and him
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: should be married, they should have a couple of kids,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: They should be respectable pillars in their community. He should
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: be buying a frickin' house with that, you know, Like
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: he's in the he's in the tax bracket where he
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: could conceivably buy a house, and he's pending it on
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: this chick for nothing. Like, nothing's going to come of this,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Nothing worthwhile for the human race is going to come
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: of this exchange. Right, There's no there's no there's no
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: future in this. And yet this is it pathetic? Pathetic
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: You guys, human race, let Andrea dwark and kill your
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: ability to pair bond. That's pathetic. This is why the
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Federation of Alien Species has no interest in you okay,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: all right?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Should I keep playing the video?
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: I don't know, like whatever we talked about?
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well we talked.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: About so she's so he's asking her, what do you
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: bring to the table, and she says, well, first she goes,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: are you serious right now? Which you know obviously she
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: thinks that that's not even you're not even a position
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to ask that. But she can't say that because the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: cameras are on her and everyone's watching. So instead she says,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: whatever we talked about, which is sort of like saying, oh, yeah,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you know, you know the thing, you know what we
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: said when we talked before, And that sort of tells me.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: That she doesn't actually talk to this guy, but he
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: thinks that she does. So let's let's see if this
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: if she can outsmart his spurg powers.
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: How many wanks have you had, Alice? Who would you say?
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: About? A thousand?
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: A thousand?
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: So?
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: Okay? So how many wanks a day?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: About? Like two or three times a day?
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: Okay?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: Impressive, it's quite impressive. So do you have any questions?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Impressive?
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: So many else asked her questions.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: So can I ask you a question? How far do
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: you scored?
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I don't really know the answer to that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Did he leave a rainbow after you scored? What does
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: it leave a rainbow after you scored?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: So bruh, Yeah, So look again, no filter this guy.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I look. Normal men don't talk to women like this.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they don't, even if they like them, not
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: not not in private, much less public. But he's asking
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: her like, do you know what he's asking her?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Alison? Were you able to make out his uh tisames?
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Because he's kind of like he has like a bit
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of a what is it like a slur or a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: slur to his speech?
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Also, are you there? Did you drop out?
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Sorry I was muted. I had actually been talking and
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I did hear that. I completely heard it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: It was very legible. Yes, he does have a bit
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: of a lisp or something, but I did hear it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: And it's not one of my favorite topics. Honestly, we
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: don't have.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: To talk about it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I want to point out that this is this is
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, this is where this guy's head
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: is at.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I came here, could you imagine?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: And that was one of the first things he says.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Could you didn't even say, how are you? By the way,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: even but what was I imagine.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: What her meeting Gabriel, Yeah right.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He'd probably just yell at her. Still you away all
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the way anyway?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: But how are your repostkills?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: No, she doesn't play video games, she's optimal.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Expects some screaming. Yeah, I think that would be more
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: entertaining meeting. Honestly, this is just fucking awkward, like and
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: this is going viral. God, you guys who people low
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: entertainment standards.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Just well, I think it's because of just how cringey
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: it is. It's the cry that is.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Really cringey, and it's cringing on both ends because she's
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: she just doesn't have She doesn't have really a register
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: that allows her to engage or even make this like it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: She doesn't. She doesn't have skills when it comes to
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: like verbal wit or anything. Because I mean, honestly, if
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: she did, this would be some good material. I think
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: if you can get past some of the some of
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: the the discomfort.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh so anyway, we'll we'll keep going. But yeah,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: he asks her, how far do you squirt? And then
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: he asked her does it leave a rainbow?
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: I don't really understand. Do you understand me? I don't understand.
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: Does it leave a rainbow after you squirt articular?
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Is not letting her off the hook? Sure?
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: When's the last time you had a interaction with another human?
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: Probably when you were out there? Okay, but like previous
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: to like today.
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: Like a you know, been about months, months, and what
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: was the.
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: I'm a day trader, so I invest in stocks.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Holy ship a day trader. Yeah, oh my god, I
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: was so off. I thought software programmer, but day trader
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I supposed works as well.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Man, I gotta look, I gotta look at the day trader.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh shit.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I mean I.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't spend my money on hose, but like I like, uh,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: fucking pay my bills would be nice, Like yeah, exactly. Yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: somebody got any tips? I'm looking for help with that
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: look trading?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Johnny Bravo. I guess, well he does day trading.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: He's like a YouTuber that sells closes and stuff. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: don't know, but yes, this is Gabriel has said, don't
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: implicate me in this. No, Gabriel, you are you are
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: a far finer specimen of spurgery.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: This.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, okay, yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, so Anyway, he he is a day trader,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and look, I just want to remind you guys, Okay,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: this guy is spending he hasn't He hasn't interacted.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: With a human being in months, according to his own claim.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: So I guess as a day trader, he probably doesn't
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: have to interact with people. He just like interacts with
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: numbers online or something. Okay, so he doesn't interact with people,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: he hasn't had human contact in months according to him.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: That all makes sense, and that's evident by the way
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: he communicates with people when he has an opportunity to
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: talk to them.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: So I think that that's like, I think that's telling.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: And plus he's giving Look, I don't know how much
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: she's basically made millions off of this guy. That's what
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: That's what Clavi is saying, and she's not denying it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And so like, imagine now for a second, Alice here,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: she's got multiple clients, they're all giving her money. This
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: guy's the biggest owner. She's probably making bank off of
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: this stuff, and all she's offering them are pictures of herself.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Plus maybe like the illusion of a relationship. It's like
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: a girlfriend experience, but online with a bunch of guys
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: who are probably like him, not very social. Plus, this
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: guy probably has also spent money on other women as well.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: So this guy's probably making a lot of money. We
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: don't know all that, but I'm guessing that once you
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: have one OnlyFans account that you're looking at, you have
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: more than one probably, you know, because there's like different
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: lots of different girls and they're all making money. I
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: forget who the top earner, I forget her name, but
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Sophie Rain. I think she makes like millions on that millions.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: But of course she's making that money off of men
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: who probably would be better served if they were just
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: in a monogamous relationship with a woman that was good
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to them. But because most women are not good to
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: most men, this is where they find themselves. So digital
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: artist says, day trading takes a certain obsessive personality. Yeah,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: this guy probably has super spured powers to make this
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: kind of money.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: All right, let's keep going.
• 35:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Okay, what do you say gooning is a W
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: or now.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: In my books it is, it's a W. Yeah. I
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: think Alice will also agreeing.
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I mean that's literally what's bankrolling here.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's looking around like, I gotta get out of here.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I like what Clav is doing here. I gotta tell
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: you w Clav because he's basically just telling the truth
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: about what she does. So he's like, yeah, but how
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: could she not say it's a w I mean, she's
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: making money off of your gooning.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: You know. So there you go anyway, Yeah, but.
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: Are you worried about like you know, recktel's function or
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: changes to your dopamine system.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Hasn't been problem for me yet, and I've been doing
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: a for around ten years.
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: Hasn't the problem yet.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how would he know?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a great question.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I guess he's like thinking, I still get hard, So
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I guess we're good till it breaks right this still
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: the wheels fall off.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I guess it's basically the I think that's the operating
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: procedure for the Western world at this point. Let's just
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: keep going till the wheels blow off. Okay, this is
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: just now getting really sad.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the point now, I'm.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling sad. This is just sad. Please stop spending
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: money on this woman. And lady. I don't know what
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: to say to you, but eventually you're not going to
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: be able to make money this way, but I guess
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: that doesn't matter. Hopefully you've got hopefully you're investing. Well, yeah,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: a trader and an only fans girl. That that's that.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: This is this is this is the These are the
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: two worse people of the apocalypse right here?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got a super chow.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Dark Kiki Mora gives us five dollars and says, wouldn't
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: he already know if it leaves a rainbow via having
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: seen her prown? Well, it could be that he just
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: wants to talk about something and that's the only thing
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: that they have in common, is.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, but p fair Brian, that's the only thing she has.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Probably yeah, but that's also the only thing that he
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: is he knows about her?
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Really, would there be anything else to know about?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why he said what kind didn't
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: he say something like what are you into?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: What kind of things do you like? Like he wanted
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: to learn more about her.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: It was like one of the first questions, did he.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, so what what do you what are
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: you into? I think he's now he could have meant,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: he could have meant sexually as possible, Like maybe he
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: was just like I'm gonna jump in there.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I'm shooting my shot right now.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, look, I don't think that this
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: is a high quality woman at all, so let me
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: be clear about that. But I don't think that I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: don't think that this guy should even be trying for this.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I think he should be like working on himself, That's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: what I think. I think that he should be like,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: you know, friends, Yeah, like get unplugged from this stuff,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: make some friends, learn about the world, because like then you'll,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: when you can build all that out, you'll be able
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: to see women like this for what they are, which
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: is like not above you really right, And I think
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: the problem is is that he sees like this is simping.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: This is maximum simping.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, spending basically everything on everything except whatever your bare necessities.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Are on this woman, on a woman like this.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: So okay, all right, yeah, we're gonna keep going though,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: We're gonna get through this.
• 39:02
  Speaker 11: Well, we'll have to come back in five years and
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: see that's still do you have to use any performance enhancers?
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: Like cialis?
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: I just do a dry rob.
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: You're dry rubbing for ten years straight? Three times a
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: day and you don't.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: Have d Yep.
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: Well, he liked mogs me to fucking Gandy Heaven and back,
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: you know what I mean?
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: So, what the fuck did that man just say.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: He got mogged into Gandhi heaven and back. Allison, I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: don't know. You gotta be up on what the young
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: kids are saying these days.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: This guy, I think, I'm I'm going with my brain.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got aura mogged, he got.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: His masturbation.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Is just well I think that he's Yeah, so I
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: know this is an uncomfortable topic, but I think it's
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: good for the context because this guy does not have
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: a problem talking about his like this stuff. He's just talking.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: These guys are strange. He doesn't know these people he's
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: telling the world about this. This guy is like zero
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: self aware and a zero filter. He's just like, yeah,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: like what why is that abnormal? I don't I don't understand,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: So anyway, what do you what's like a full day
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: like of you waking up to you going to sleep.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: I wake up, I eat breakfast, I go to the gym,
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: get back, watch them Netflix, goon, and go back to bed.
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: That's it.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: Also, I woke a little bit.
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: He worked a little bit.
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: Yeah at night, I was gonna that doesn't really seem
• 40:46
  Speaker 11: like a full day to me.
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: What would would you what would you consider a full day?
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: Well, it's just like a gym, Netflix and gooning and
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: then that's it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: And what do you do?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, at least he goes the gym idea
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: gets out a day.
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: Well, no, actually this is better.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Honestly, the interaction between the two men is better. It's
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: it's making me less pained. Yeah, I understand, Yeah, this
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: is uh okay, this is like, okay, let's let's just continue.
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 41:21
  Speaker 11: Not questioning that, but I'm just wondering that that must
• 41:24
  Speaker 11: be a lot of like Netflix hours, there are a lot
• 41:25
  Speaker 11: of gooning hours.
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: But either way, yeah, is that what it is?
• 41:29
  Speaker 11: Oh?
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: He did? He did? You're right, Brian. He did open
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: with what kinds of things are you into?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, but there was after that, after you said you're
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: fattered in person?
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was after he said you're fatter in person.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I think that was just I think that was just no,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I think that was it could have been a sperg,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: but I think.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: I think it's just a sperg, Like he's just.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: He could have could have been, but like, you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: this this chick is not offering her actual body, like
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: physically to these men.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: She's offering an illusion. That's why, Like he probably saw
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: that she wasn't perfect, because he wasn't getting like all
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: the filters and whatever other you know.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: AI images.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like whatever it is that she did
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to curate her gallery before putting it on of he
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: probably saw that it wasn't the same and that should
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: be you know, maybe like I don't know, give him
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: an idea that like this woman is not what he
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: thinks she is. But it doesn't seem to work.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: So he goes to the gym. He doesn't look like it.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe he was a lot bigger and he's
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: like getting a bit better.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the goals are at the gym,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: but okay.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: So essentially from what I'm looking at here, you're right,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: he does actually ask her several times what she's into,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: so he's trying to he's at least trying to get
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: her or express an interest in what she might be
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: interested in and talking about that, which honestly puts him
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: on a little bit higher social register than she is.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I know that sounds really crazy, but she doesn't get like, honestly,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: she doesn't even she doesn't even want to. Yes, he
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: was rude coming in, but he's obviously like you spend
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: like two minutes with him, you can tell he's a
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: spurg and you know, but this is like he did try.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: You're right, Brian, he did try, and she could have
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: changed the topic to something else, like as I was
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: hoping her opinions on strength theory or something, but she didn't,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: and it would have been a much less awkward conversation
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: and she wouldn't be giving off. I know that probably
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: isn't going to change her revenue at all. She's probably
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: got even more in the works that are going to
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: spend money on her, despite the fact that they are
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: probably in a very similar situations he is. So she's
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: gonna she's gonna actively be repulsed by them, right. She
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to talk to them, she doesn't want to
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: know about them, no interest in it. And it's really
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: interesting because I mean, I don't want to really compare
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: that to my situation, but I am actually interested in
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: the people who choose to actually support us, because I
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: know that they have an interest in something that is important, right,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: and she has no interest in the men who support her,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: probably because she doesn't think they have an interest in
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: anything that she finds important. Now, I want you to
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: think about that, like what that must mean? What that
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: must say about her? Right? And if she has nothing
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: outside of the thing that she sells, which she apparently
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: does not consider important because she doesn't consider the people
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: who invest important enough to talk to, then what does
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: she have? What does she have in her life? Except
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: eventually she's gonna lose, like she's gonna start. I mean
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: it might take a long time, as I think even
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: older women make money on OnlyFans, But eventually she'll lose
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: that the thing that she apparently doesn't even value now,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: and what will her life be then, having cultivated no interests,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: no self outside of simply selling a version of herself
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: that doesn't even exist. Right, It's like, and this is
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: this is this is the world. Apparently this is the world.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: And the fact is that this is not the way
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: human beings are supposed to be. We're supposed to pair, bond,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: we're supposed to fall in love with each other, Like
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: that's what we're happiest in. That's the arrangement we're happiest in.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: And if our society is failing to facilitate that, even
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: for the awkward spurgs, then there is a problem, right,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: And the fact is that we now have a generation
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: that will never experience the most important relationship that they
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: will ever have, like the one that you are designed like.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: It regulates every system that you have, right, your immune system,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: court is all your hormonal system, sexual like, everything is
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: regulated by the relationships like this. And I'm not even
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: gonna say, you know, heterosexual, right, just a strong relationship
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: or even sexual friendships. Everything is disappearing in this society.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: And my dog is barking furiously at something, and I
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: have to deal with that, So I guess we should continue,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I got a rebel rant from Nova fan twenty one
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: who gives a dollar and says she really is the
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: embodiment of oh, easy money. Heck, yeah, wait, there's content
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: quintance for my actions. No, let me keep my easy
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: money without the things I don't like. Well, yeah, I
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: mean most of the time, these women do not think
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: that they're going to, like, actually meet any of the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: men that they are working for. I don't know how
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: else to put it, you know. But again, this is
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: she is choosing this and he is choosing this as well.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: So all right, well, let's keep going.
• 47:29
  Speaker 9: Sustain yourself and just day trade in ladar. But who
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: do you live with?
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: You?
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: Do you have your own place?
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: I have my own place?
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: Okay, so you just kind of like the ladaar? Yeah,
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: are you registered on? I can't believe this anything.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Clo vicular is actually being sort of a custodial towards
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: the guy, like he's.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: He's gotta, he's gotta. He's trying to get more information
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: about the guy, So he's gotta. This guy is not.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have, but I think he was talking
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: heard before this whole thing started, But I think he
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: does talk to her moret a bit later.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah he could have.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he could have just completely ignored the guy and
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: spoke to her instead, And he didn't. He's choosing to
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: talk to him. He's choosing to try to, you know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: figure something out. And he's also, in my opinion, seeming
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: to take a little bit of responsibility for maybe what
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: this guy is making of himself and trying to move
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: him all away from that path. That's what I'm picking up.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Well, let's keep going right sure.
• 48:34
  Speaker 11: Like in cels no, no, okay, wow, okay. Do you
• 48:40
  Speaker 11: think that what you're doing is like something that's admirable
• 48:43
  Speaker 11: and should be replicated by young men.
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: If you have the mind to do it?
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I figure, yeah, Wow, dude, Wow, I don't even know
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: what to say, Like, you don't.
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: You don't you really don't feel like embarrassed whatsoever?
• 49:00
  Speaker 11: Nope, I mean, dude, Like that's a level of confidence
• 49:06
  Speaker 11: I guess I could respect, but like, I don't know,
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: it's really not my not my place or you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 11: in no way and no, like people in the chat
• 49:17
  Speaker 11: will see like a fat retard like this and and say,
• 49:21
  Speaker 11: oh my god, you know, what this guy is doing
• 49:23
  Speaker 11: is terrible by you know, gooning all the time and
• 49:27
  Speaker 11: he you know, it's it's gluttonous.
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: Just who the fuck gives a ship? You know what
• 49:33
  Speaker 9: I mean?
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: Like, if this guy wants to rot his life away
• 49:35
  Speaker 11: doing dumb ship like.
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: That, then that's no, that's you. You live in your
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: worst life.
• 49:40
  Speaker 11: But I'm simply saying that I don't give a ship, okay,
• 49:43
  Speaker 11: because you've made that decision and nothing anyone you know myself,
• 49:48
  Speaker 11: I can say to you.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: M or this could be tough love. Who knows.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think he's just saying, Okay, so
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you've made this choice. You're grown ass man, and I'm
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: just gonna tell it like it is. So you know,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: you've decided that you don't care about this. What he
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I'm translating claviculariase here he's saying, if you don't care
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: about your life or morals or what is right and wrong,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: then I don't care either. And this guy is just
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: smiling and laughing and nodding along. And maybe again he's
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: probably on the spectrum like way over way out there
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: and it doesn't even register as like something that he
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: should like look at or he's too coombrained to like
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: think about it. But he doesn't seem to take an
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: issue with Clavicular's critique at all. He doesn't seem bothered
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, So somebody in the chat is saying, look at
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: her face when she said it's your worst life. Yeah,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: well honestly, we got two millionaires here basically, and I
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: don't know why honestly. Okay, So Clovicular is going after
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: the guy, what about her?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's there's.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: More Okay, well, can we go back to when he
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: says it's your worst life. I want to see, sure,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: do some facial analysis.
• 51:12
  Speaker 11: Okay, because you've made No, that's you live in your
• 51:14
  Speaker 11: worst life. But I'm simply saying that I don't give it.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean she just looks generally like vapid.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Uh No, I think that I think that there is
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: something happening in her head where she's like, these are
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: the men that are looking at my pictures and giving
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: me money. But I don't know if there's like anything
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: registering like I'm not saying that there is.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Look, she's not smart, but I've been like, you know,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I don't expect that someone who is smart would do
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: this anyway.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: So well, I mean, you make a lot of money,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: so maybe it's smart in that sense.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose. I mean I don't know that that's
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: smart as so much as like prostitution is is the
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: oldest profession, so it's kind of like tradition. I guess
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: it's not. It's not exactly progressive, but anyway, Yeah, so
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: she just looks like ashamed. I think that's what it
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: is mostly that I see.
• 52:14
  Speaker 11: Okay, because you've made that decision, and nothing anyone, you know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: myself or anyone in the shack could say to you
• 52:20
  Speaker 11: to to change that seemingly so that that's quite pathetic,
• 52:25
  Speaker 11: but you know, it is what it is, so hopefully
• 52:29
  Speaker 11: figure it out.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: But sorry, I'm kind of just like clap talk. So
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: what do you like to do for a front or
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: like what kind of hobbies do you have?
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: Like everything we talked about again, like.
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: Like the gym, and like, you know, I just like
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: hang out with my friends like we're and you don't much. No,
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: Like I'm busy all day talking to like all my
• 52:54
  Speaker 10: like subscribers.
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: But you have box talk, all right, Filipina.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Act I don't.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I really don't, Okay, all right, huh all right. So
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: they both make lots and lots of money. He does
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: day trading, she does porn, prawn whatever, and they both
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: have they're both not building anything. She talks to her friends, okay,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: and that's it. You're not producing anything.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Uh No, I don't think she's porn. Well, She's the
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: only thing that I'd say she does have, if it's
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: even true, is that she has friends.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, well yeah supposedly, but that's that's basically
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that's starter kit for a while.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: But I think that women in particular do generally like
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: measure their life like whether or not they're living a
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: good life by their friend group or having a friend group,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: even if it's kind of like a you know, like
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: a like a whisper I don't know, like a knitting
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: circle or some kind of.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Like bitchy little frenemy group or whatever.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: But it's still a group, right, I think I think
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: that it's not on I believe her when she says
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I have friends.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I think most people do.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Well. The thing is that women don't really have friends.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: They have social social.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of what I mean.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: And they they they sort of distribute their like uh
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: like that kind of affiliate of oxytocin driven warmth throughout
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: their social web. But they don't I don't know if
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: they actually have like friendship the way you know, you
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: would expect, like a kind of deep loyalty or No.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think so either.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I think that she shops with and goes out with, yeah, exactly.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: So it's basically just entertainment in the form of another hominid,
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: which is no different than just watching Netflix. As far
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: as I'm concerned now, I don't think that women are
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: necessarily incapable of friendship. But in this current landscape, somebody
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: who thinks that it's a threat, or she thinks she's
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: afraid because some dude was rude to her, I don't
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: think that she has any v one a cross activation
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: going on in her brain. So I don't think that
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: she has the specificity to really understand what friendship is, right.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: You need to actually see people as individuals, not just
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: nodes in a social web and resources in order to
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: have the concept of friendship right anyway, So I would
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: say that of the two of them, they are equally pathetic.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't single up the man. She's not exactly making
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: anything of her life either, And just because she has
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: friends doesn't mean that they've what she set calls friends,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that they aren't themselves basically a form of
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: social entertainment, no better than watching Netflix. Right, All right,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: let's keep going that's cynical. I'm cynical, that's.
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: Put a good match. We're both two degendimates.
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you and him, No, you and me, And I'm
• 56:13
  Speaker 10: like not a degenerate though.
• 56:15
  Speaker 11: I mean, you literally make the content he's consuming so
• 56:20
  Speaker 11: that it's.
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: Extremely degenerate the entire industry of it. So I mean,
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: like that's the whole supply chain. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: not talking.
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: I'm like a little freaked out right now, and I'm like,
• 56:34
  Speaker 10: usually not, isn't.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: That what the is this creature? I'm a little freaked
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: out right now. I've had someone say something. I've had
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: someone's actually accurately estimate my freaking worth and what I'm doing.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I've had someone say something the truth to me. I'm
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I'm in fear of my life. What Okay, I'm like,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: you got Everybody's like, oh my god, he's so he's
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: so spurgy, he's so gross, he's so cringe. Right, she's
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: cringe like he's he's over here, and probably he is
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: like extreme male brain, which is why he does the
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: day trading really well and has millions to throw at women. Right,
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: extreme operative inputs, machine outputs, right, total analysis, everything stacked
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: on that. She is extreme oxytocin female brain, just poisoned
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: by it, absolutely poisoned the state of complete nullification. Right,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: they're both equally cringe, both equally pathetic. Okay, yeah, okay,
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I'm getting more and more cynical by the moment here.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's fine.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Remember this is a bit of a outleads are kind
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: of outlier cases, both of these people.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: But let's keep going.
• 58:11
  Speaker 11: You know, you're giving this girl like potentially hundreds of thousands,
• 58:15
  Speaker 11: if not millions, and she's like just utterly like repulsed.
• 58:19
  Speaker 10: I'm not repulse, I'm just like kind of like nervous
• 58:22
  Speaker 10: and like shocked.
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: Because I thought it was a joke. No, no, no,
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: that's that is repulsion.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I.
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: Thought it was a joke.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: So this is interesting too because she's now she's in
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: this position right where the guy who basically signs her
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: checks is sitting at the table, and she's she never
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: wanted to meet this person. She never wanted to actually
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: deal with this human being. She just wanted his money.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: She was making content and was taking his money. And
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Clavicular was pointing out, you are repulsed by this guy.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: You find this guy gross. He gives you the ick,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: And she can't say that that's true because she doesn't
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: want to lose her meal ticket. He might She's afraid
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: he might be like, well, I'm not going to give
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: you money.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Anymore.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: So now she's got to like walk this line of
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: like how do I remain in his good graces so
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I get paid without actually having to, like, you know,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: interact with this person that I am disgusted by. Right,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: whether or not you think it's justified, it doesn't matter.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: It's what she feels. So it's interesting she is repulsed
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: by him, but she also wants his money, Like I thought.
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: I thought you guys were like like I thought, so
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: now that you know it's serious, yours absolutely like.
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: We're you gonna have to be norse around me?
• 59:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Like no, I'm not that nervous.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just like shocked. What did he say? Nawsing out
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: on me?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: He said, you don't have to be nervous around me,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: But he's he's saying, you don't have to be nervous
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: around me.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, so custodial instinct is firing in her direction. I
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: can't believe it. She's he's for you know, everybody's like,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: oh he's so cringey. He's further along than she is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: to adulthood. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: Do anything else want to know about me?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Like I already know like a lot about you like,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: why are you here?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: Name one thing that you know?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. Sorry, I was on a plane
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: think all day?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 9: Yea, name one thing that you guys have talked about.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: I mean we talk every day.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: How about I think.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Name if you talk every day. If you talk every day,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: why do you have such a problem with him?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what Clavicular is exposing. He's trying to expose
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: that she doesn't actually talk to him and that somebody
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: else does pretending to be her. So he's basically trying
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: to point this out.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she's deceitful.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's what Clavicular is trying to suss out.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know that he knows this for sure, but
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: she's like he's like, the guy says, you know.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: What did he say something about? Like what do you
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: know about me? And she's like, oh, you know all
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. We talk every day.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just can't remember, and and clav is like, well,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: name one thing. She's like, I don't know. It was
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: a long flight like that. Like that that tells you
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: she doesn't really know. And it gets better, So let's
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: play a.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Little bit more.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 10: Sorry, I forgot what was it again, Michael?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: So so she he's like, what about his name? And
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: she's like, ah, I forgot what is it?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: And of course the spur goes Michael right away like
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: please remember this instead of like saying, well, I don't know,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: why don't you tell me?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: But he couldn't do it. He just had to tell
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: her his name. And now she's like, oh, yeah, right
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: of course, Michael, Yeah, sure you Mike, mikey boy, mikail me,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Miguel right, Michelangelo of course, yeah, right sure.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: And he's like, oh she remembered, Like oh god, no,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: you told her all right, anyway.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 9: It was nice. You give you a hundred thousand dollars.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 9: What's one thing that he's ever said to you? Exactly?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 9: You don't know, you don't know, you don't know because
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 9: it's Filipino. Yeas, guys don't ever buy any of this ship.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: So anyway, I.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 11: Think that should be all of the questions unless you
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 11: had a closing thoughts.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the perfect match, perfect match, both the Jans.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 10: You think we're the perfect match.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 9: But you do know that right that you've never once
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 9: actually talked.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: To her, no, like you have a lot of times,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 10: like you never like basic face all the.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 9: Time, You've never talked.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: He's kindly engaging with him, Brian, go back, Yeah she
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: do you see where she starts to engage with him
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: because he has the audacity to say we we're the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: perfect match for both degenerates.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Right, that's when she starts to engage with him when
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: he has the audacity to say that they are a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: perfect and you guys are He makes tons of money
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: on day trading and apparently does not want to make it.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: He doesn't want to do anything to improve his life.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying he necessarily has to date to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: do it, but just do other things like maybe pursue hobbies,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: charity something right, and you apparently only make porn. So yes,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: you are too a matched set of degeneracy. But she doesn't.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: She she can't stand that. No, okay, let's play.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: No all right.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: Face talked to her always.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Why are you touching him?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Bitch?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so trying to like cut him off because
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I think Clavi is basically exposing her. Say, look, you
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: don't you you think you're talking to this girl. You're
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: not talking to this girl when you talk to people online,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: it's not her and she's like, no, no, you're killing
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: my business. So like she's already tried to preserve some
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: kind of like you know, securing that bag as it were,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: from this guy by pretending to know things about him
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: when she doesn't and also not calling, you know, not
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: essentially like trying not to say, oh, he disgusts me
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: because she wants to keep getting his money. And now
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: he's like, look, dude, you know this chick is not
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: She doesn't know you, she doesn't care about you, she
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't she doesn't want you, okay, she just wants your money.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: And she's like, no, that's not true. We talk all
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: the time, like you know, I just wanted to go
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: back to his job and keep sending me money. And
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: that's why that's what she's doing. She's trying to like
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: get in there, but like he and not Look this
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: clav is trying to help him in a way, right,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: he's also trying.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: To help her too, which they get into a little
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: bit later. But let's see where it goes.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 11: But isn't that did you know that? Or is that
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 11: something you're just now you knew that? So you're literally
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 11: talking to no, no, so you know that when you're account.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: It's a guy on the other end with a keyboard typing.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: Why don't believe he texts back, I just buy the content.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 9: But still, isn't that like at He's no, that's weird.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: So wait now she doesn't even know what we talk
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: all the time, so he doesn't even talk to her, right,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: So she's just completely all right. So essentially this this
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: business practice is you lie about being the one you're
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: talking to that these people are talking to somebody else.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: It's a scam, all right. Well, because the thing is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: that if it was just her freaking nudes, all right,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: But then she's presenting it as if she's the one
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: talking to people. Does she realize that this is treading
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: on a little bit dangerous territory because it's one thing
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: to like say, okay, I'm gonna sell my ass all right,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: you know, scans of my anus, And it's another thing
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: to say that I'm I'm actually doing something that I'm
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: not doing patently. Yeah, I'm like fraud like of course
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: she's she's she's I guess she's holding the line.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Well, this woman, dislike a lot of these women, they
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: don't really think that far ahead. They don't like is
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: this gonna bite me in the ass. No, it's like
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: I just want this right now. So I mean, but
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: neither is he in his own way, He's like, I'm
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: just gonna invest in this thing, you know, I just
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: want pleasure right now.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: So you know, what's the alternative? Really?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, just be be okay alone, be okay with less,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: find something that's if you can't get your material needs,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: if you can get your material needs, net needs, met
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: figure out a way to be satisfied in that, I guess.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: But I suppose he could try, like well, I mean,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: try doing something for others. I suppose, like if he
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: has this much resources, but honestly, maybe try.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: To figure a way to be in at certain service
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: to people. Yeah, I mean there's like all kinds of
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: things you can do other than give Like what.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: The hell, what's the prescription for her? What's the prescription
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: for her?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Since we're all stop doing that, Like, I don't know,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's good for her either.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's like she needs the same kind
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: of help. She needs some you know, like go for
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: give your father or something like find him, tell him
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you're sorry.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know or.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: Tell him that you you forgive him for whatever it has.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Done or whatever whatever you think was done, whatever you
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: think was them. But I mean, I don't know.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: I think that I think that uh, carrying on with this,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: even if you seem to benefit is I don't think
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: it's good for your soul, to be honest, I mean
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know how else to put it. And she
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: needs to be sued.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, most of these OnlyFans girls do the
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: same thing. Like, it's not it's not it's not unique.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: They're all doing that.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Like, because you get to the point, like how many
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: clients do you think this woman has? Do you think
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: she can make time in her day to like talk
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: to all of them when it's easier to pay somebody
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: probably pennies on the dollar, like slave wages to like
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: respond in texts and sects and pictures that she probably
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: has like a bunch of things taken already that she
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: shares with the same guy. I mean, you know, yeah,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's not. I think it's fucked up,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: But I don't think it's unusual. I don't think she's special.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: She you know, she might even have like a pimp
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: that like does a lot of that stuff for her.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: She's probably some dude you know, at the top that
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: has multiple women and they have a bunch. They have
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: their own little you know, team of sexters that message guys.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: So like, if if men weren't experiencing loneliness to the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: degree that they need this, then this wouldn't exist as
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: a business, not in my opinion, at least, it wouldn't
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: be like as big as it is. So But anyway,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, I think I think that they
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: both need to work on themselves.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 11: I mean, fair enough, fair enough, Yeah, okay, you know, wow.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: He thinks that they're both matched. Of course, that this
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: guy just wants to get in those pants. But I mean,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I wouldn't.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he would he really know what
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: to do at this point.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Well he may not, but but I mean that's irrelevant.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Like I think, I think think about this too. Clave
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: probably organized this meeting. Clave has a lot of money too.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know where he makes it, but I know
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: he has a lot of money. And he probably said, hey, man,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: do you want to meet this OnlyFans chick that you
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: are subscribed to. I see you you're a top donor.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I will fly you out here to meet her. And
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: he probably said, hell, yes, I would like to meet her.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: It's probably the only thing I want to do, especially
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: considering my life consists of work. Jim Goon Netflix. I
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck there is on Netflix to watch,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: but I think that's your first The first thing to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: do that you need to do to improve your your.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Life is cancel your Netflix subscription. Get rid of that.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: There's bullshit, there's nothing there.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: But anyway, considering that that's his life, according to him,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: then meeting this girl in real life is probably like
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: a dream. So he was like, oh, I'm gonna I
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: have my chance. And now he's here in front of
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: her and he's like, well, this is probably my only shot.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell her that we are matched. I'm
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna do all the things. I'm gonna try
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: and get get with her. So I think that's what
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: he's trying to do. He sees this as an opportunity,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: you know, grind, said Jim Goon. Yes, Uh, anyway, Uh
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: JoJo's not on Netflix. Well maybe, but you can get
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: that anywhere. It's not worth it. He probably doesn't. He
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: probably watches like anime though I can tell he looks
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: like a Bleach fan. One piece. What's the big mainstream
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: thing baruto jiu jitsu kaisen? Anyway, So I'm gonna play
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: some more of this.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: There's a little that's crazy.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 11: Wow, Wow, I got yeah, it's uh, it's it's really
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 11: wild to like bring both both parties together and actually
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 11: like see the interaction here.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 10: You know, this is actually never happened to me before.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 11: I don't think because it's you know, the girls who
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 11: do only fans quite literally uh cage and think that
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 11: the subscribers and the people who are messaging them are
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 11: just sheer and utter jokes.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 10: I don't think you're a joke though, No, No, you
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 10: do you do?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: Do you do along with every single person.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 10: Really like clav is like really like judgmental?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 11: No, every single person already fans you think is an utter?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: Why would I think it's a joke thing?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 10: I'm hot?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 11: You literally think that they are a worthless sub human
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 11: And why would I think that?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 9: To be honest, anyone who subscribes they.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 10: Just have money and want to see Like, No.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 9: You can be honest. You hate them? Why why would
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 9: I hate them?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Why would I hate them?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, why would I hate him?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Why would I hate him?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 11: If he came up to you in a bar and
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 11: this was off camera, you would scream and call the police.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 9: What would he say? What would you say?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 11: Even if he said, even if he looked at you,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 11: I would say, hey, I'm on your top. You know
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 11: you wouldn't run the other way spray him?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: And Okay, what's happening in this interaction? Or Alison mut
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I am not paying attention?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: No, no, I'm paying attention. I'm paying attention. You can
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: hear me, right, I'm paying attention this human drama. What's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: happening in this interaction?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you catch that?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: Something specific?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Your name is more? Let me go back a little bit.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think you were listening.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: So he's basically saying he's Clavi is telling uh, what's
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: her name, Alice?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: He's telling Alice. Well, he's telling the guy I don't
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: know the spender. He's telling him that she's disgusted, like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: only fans, girls are disgusted by the men who support them.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: They hate them. They are you know, they just want
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: their money.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: They think very little of them, and she's like, no,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I don't No, I don't I you know I I
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: And then she's like, look, Clavis, She's like, he's he
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: doesn't know me. I don't know him that well. He
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: can't really say that whatever. And Clavi is saying, if
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: if this guy approached you in a bar, you would
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: scream and call the police. And so let let me
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: play that.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: This is important.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: Even if said, even if he looked at you, I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: would say, hey, I want your top.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 9: Run the other way him and call the police.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 10: Okay, one of my only friends has gone up to me,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 10: and if he like grabbed me weird or something, I would.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 9: Call if he looked at you.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 11: If he if he looked at you, you the utterly
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 11: repulse and call the police.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 10: I don't know if like repulse is the word.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 9: No, it is. It's the word.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 11: And that's how every OnlyFans Girl is about every single
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 11: person who's ever given them a cent, And people continue
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 11: to send money to What did she say?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: What did she say?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Let me go back a little bit.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: Something about him, he doesn't like him very much or.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Something, and people continue to like, No, she says, I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: don't like think that's true, She says, I don't think
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: that's true. Basically, Okay, she just threw a like in there.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: I don't like, I think that's true.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, So yeah, he was rude initially, but she literally
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: did not say anything to him the entire time. Uh,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it was just the rudeness maybe,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: but but okay, let's hear does clavicular like, is there
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: any point at which she confirms what he's saying?
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 11: I mean, funny to talk to people in third world countries?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 9: It's like, it's utterly perplexing. Well, never buy her or
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 9: ever ever you know these subscriptions, never ever do it.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 11: Do not buy these subscriptions. She is mocking you and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 11: laughing at how much of a loser you are.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 9: That's not true. It is just okay.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: Honestly, he pretty much caught you on the whole. This
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: is your top patron. You know nothing about him nothing. Yeah,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: you know nothing about this man, and you have said
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: that you are texting him. And it's interesting because I mean,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: he's not making these connections. But he then said, why
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: not really texting her? So how would she have Why
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: didn't she say that? And he's like, well, you've never
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: really texted me, so I don't know who you are. Right,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: Why didn't she say that? No, she just she's not
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: even going with that. She doesn't even know that he
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: doesn't talk to her much less what he doesn't say
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: to her. Right, she's just going with the general the
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: situation with her patrons, which means she doesn't talk to them.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: So right off the bat, even without going with those
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: she finds you repulsive. She is lying about interacting with
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: her patrons.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, so Xarenx just gave us a membership thing.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Zarynx.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, you can read it.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that like.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he says, I don't think that's true that
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: he's quoting her. I don't think that's true, and I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: don't think repulse is the word. The second statement negates
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: the first, and she doesn't realize it. Yeah, because she doesn't. Again,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: she's trying to She's trying to have her cake and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: eat it too, like most welcome to being a woman.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: And so that means like, how do I accept the
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: fact that I am and in fact repulsed by this guy?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: But I also want to keep getting his money. And
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: maybe the reason that part of the reason why she
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: is repulse is that he's willing to give her so
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: much money, like could that also be part of that problem?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: I have, I have asked punished Claude. What does it
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: say about her opinion of herself that she thinks this
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: way about the men who value her only contribution? So
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: the only thing that she's contributing to the world are
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: valued by men Like this, it says her self valuation
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: rests on extracting money from men she classifies as subhuman.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: The product she sells, or at least she doesn't she
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: lies to them. The products she sells the only thing
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: of value she's identified in herself, and the buyers of
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: that product are by her own account, contemptible. The arithmetic
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: resolves to my worth is that worthless men will pay
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: for me. This is structurally unstable. Well, it's also interesting
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: because I guess the worth is in the money, which
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: is I get perfect capitalism. I wonder if she's a communist.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: This is structurally unstable. She can't upgrade her self assessment
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: without upgrading her customers, and upgrading her customers would mean
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: acknowledging that men who pay strangers for sexual fantasy aren't subhuman,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: which would collapse the contempt that lets her perform her work.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: The contempt is load bearing. Without it, she'd have to
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: look at what she does as something a person does,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: not something done to Marx. Yeah, and definitely, even if
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: she doesn't find them repulsive overtly repulsive, they are Marx
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: because she is lying to them. The I'm scared when
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: one materializes as partly this, a sub human became human
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: in the room and the frame she uses to do
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: her job. Stop working. I love how I've I've beaten
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: punished Cloud into being really really catty. Okay, so do
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: you want to continue?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah? It was a little bit left so so yeah.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: So now clav has basically used He's done this, He's
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: set the trap.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: He brought the top contributor.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: He knew that her reaction was gonna be shock and
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: disgust because she has to face the men that pay
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: for her content, and I think she probably feels like
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: it brings her down a bit to see them, even
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: though she's already lower than she thinks that she is.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: And he's basically used this as an opportunity to tell
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: his audience not to pay for OnlyFans because those girls
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: don't like you, especially the ones that are selling the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: girlfriend experience, because they're obviously just I don't know's it's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: like vampiric, because it I think that men could be
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: cultivating that that impulse towards people who actually care about them,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: and they're doing it with these people anyway.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: All right, So I have a punished Claude response to you, ZARANX.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: The one he said, I don't think that's true, and
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's Repulsed is the word. The second
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: statement negated the first, and she doesn't realize and punish.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Claude comes back with correct read. First statement denies she
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: finds the patron repulsing in person. Second statement, when pressed
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: downgrades repulsed to something milder, which concedes the underlying reaction exists,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: only the intensity is in dispute. She moved from false
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: to wrong word for it, which is admission disguised as
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: can continued denial. The commentator caught a standard tell when
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: someone argues vocabulary instead of substance, the substance is settled.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: She wasn't defending the claim that she didn't find him repulsive.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: She was negotiating the label for a feeling she'd already conceded,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: all right, there you go. Let's keep going.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Let's keep going.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 10: Why do I think the people that think I'm hot
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 10: and want to see my body are jokes?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, okay, you guys.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: Because that's what that's how you see them, That's not
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: how they see you.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: I'm confused. Did she say that they think she's a joke?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: She said, why would I think the men who want
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: to think I'm sexy and want to see my body?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Why would I think they're jokes?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Because you think you're a joke, And also saying it
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: like that, why would I doesn't negate anything.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: It's a workaround, and it's a sort of a skeazy one.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I think it's because they don't think she's
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: a joke. But she does like them, not They don't
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: have to see her as a joke in order for
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: her to see them that way. She sees them that
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: way because they give her money.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, she's not saying that they think she's
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: a joke. She's saying that why would she think they're
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: a joke?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Why would she think that they are a joke? Right?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So, but that's not actually answering the question, it's deflecting.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: It's a politicians answer.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go well yeah, because no, he's saying that, Well,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: let's go back, let's let's get then.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 10: Why would I think the people that think I'm hot
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 10: and want to see my body are jokes?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, Okay, you guys just.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 10: Think I'm hot, you want to support me, and you're
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 10: making me money.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 9: Why is that a joke?
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 10: You're there the reason I have money.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 11: He's like, you probably like uh, cackling like a psychopath
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 11: when you see these numbers.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 10: Okay, that's just what you're inferring though.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly what.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I'm let me.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 9: I don't know right now. Right, So, well, like I
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 9: would keep sending your money.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: You know, I just don't like.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 10: I don't just like hug people guys like shake your
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 10: hand and like.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 11: And people who subscribe to only fans remember, keep sending
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 11: her money, and this is what you get, right.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: I would think the hunk hug was safer and shaking
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: his hand.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 7: Mm hmmm.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: I would see the hug would be safer than shaking
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: his hand. Why gooner jokes.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, I get it.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: No, she has like he well that's what clav is
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: just exposing her like. She obviously doesn't she she can't.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: She thinks that he is a joke, but she doesn't
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: want to admit that. Okay, so she just wants his money.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: So this is almost the end here.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: But okay, okay, I can respond to this.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Well this is.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: What punished claude analysis is. It's the what why would
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: I think the people who think I'm hot and want
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: to see my body are jokes? And punished Claude replies
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: with it's the fraud. Stated plainly. Her business model requires
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: the buyer to believe she sees him as a person
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: who finds her attractive and whom she's engaging with. Knowles
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: is forcing her to defend Knowles.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: You're looking at the No, that's not clivicular, that's the.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Other vis clurbcular. No clivicular is forcing her to defend
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: that frame on camera, and she defends it by stating
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: the frame's surface terms. They think I'm hot, they want
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: to support me, while the rest of the clip didn't
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: demonstrates the opposite. She can't name her top patron, doesn't
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: text back outsources conversation to filipognovas who would call the police. Well,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: we don't know that for sure. That's Clivicular's assumption, so
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: we'll cancel that one. The statement is the script the
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: customer is pairing to hear. It's not our actual position
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: or actual position came out thirty seconds later when she
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: called the customer base. Well, no, no, when she evaded
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: and did the whole thing that Zarynx noticed, which is
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: arguing the vocabulary rather than the substance of the claim.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: All right, so yeah, she's uh, she's defending herself basically
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: against Well, she can't say anything else, right, because then
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: it would be fraud.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 9: There and would call the police on you fat person.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 10: So I'm kind of like, that's yeah.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, well there you go.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: What you say.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: He likes?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Oh he said I like fat? Okay, yeah, what is that?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: You like some thick?
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you like some thick?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, I don't think I'm fat.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: It was a compliment.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 9: I don't know why I would give someone. This generation
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 9: of men is men and utterly disastrous, this generation of men.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Huh, well, yeah, I know, it's a it's a it's
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't agree with the landing there.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's that seems stretch to me.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, I mean I don't think it's just men.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Let's put it that way.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 9: But you know, what are you gonna do?
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 9: So I say we that should enough for that and
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 9: we could move on to the next contestin.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 10: Nice to meet you?
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, was it nice to meet him?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Did you see what happened there?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I okay, let's go back play attention, pay attention. This
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: is important.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: I'm squirreling.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: It's basically every I know, it's basically everything summed up.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, was it nice to meet him? Ah?
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 9: Oh my god, Okay.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: I'm really scared, like kick him.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Oh you're not. She's like kick him out now.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really scared with the freaking huge, shit eating
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: grin and also surrounded by bodyguards. And yeah, just I
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: did see that he shook her hand and she immediately
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: wiped it off. So yes, Clavicular was right. That is
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: you pay for this, these women, and that's what you're
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: paying for repulsion, right, that's uh, that's really sad. But
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: also you know, you got to consider her. What she's
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: doing is the the only thing that she's putting out
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: in the world, the people who care about it and
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: invest in it. She has contempt for, right, that's that is,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: that is I don't really care about her, But that
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: is that is a pretty pathetic No.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a it's a sign of
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: like she's not ultimately that important. I'm looking at this as,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: let's say, a microcosm mm hmmm.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: So microcosm of the world as it stands.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Huh, well where we're going.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: At least, oh yes, and right, and and most people
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: will look at this and they won't see her as
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: as equally pathetic to him, hm hmm. But think about
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: it that way. She's spending her life feeding the appetite
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: of people or men she has utter contempt for. This
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: is what she's spending her life on. This is the
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: time she's never getting back.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Yep, right, this is.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: And this is what she's making of herself, her her
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: biggest interaction with the human race just left the room there, guys,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: And she didn't even want to. She she had to
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: wipe it off on her on her leotard, whatever she's wearing.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: She had to light wipe it off on her thighs. Literally,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: the person in the world that will give her the
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: most resource she can't even tolerate the touch of or
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: even even being in contact with. Her most human relationship
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: just walked out that door and she doesn't even know it.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that she has to marry him
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: or anything, but that's what she's constructed for herself, right. Yeah,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: and all of those friends she says she has, you know,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: they wouldn't. They probably wouldn't. They wouldn't. They wouldn't drop Like,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: if she became socially inconvenient, they'd drop her instantly. If
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: she had a need, they probably wouldn't help her out.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: When that guy's giving her millions of dollars or hundreds
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars in terms of resources, Like, there's
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: nobody else in her life who's going to give her more,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: and she has complete contempt for him.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: That's just one guy. She's probably got lots of guys given.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: And she probably feels equally about them. Yeah, and you know,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: him being rude, him being rude, and he clarified in
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: the end. Okay, so apparently that was his mating call.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: You are robust, madam.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: It's him rubenesque. I like them rubenesque.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: I like him round and plumpy, right, that was his
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: mating call, and she he wasn't even trying to be rude,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: and she still is like and even her last excuse
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: that he was being rude is gone. She just is disgusted.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: And men are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: women who find them repulsive.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: Honestly, that's uh, that's disturbing's and I feel more for him.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: I know that Clivicar is like, you're wasting your life,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: and I would agree, right, do anything but what you're
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: doing now, please, I mean, get get and get a
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: companion animal, right, run an anime convention, volunteer at a
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: soup kitchen.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know, like unsubscribe from your Netflix account.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: Start writing, you know, do something else but what you're doing, Okay,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: And for her, I don't know, life will do it
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: to her, and I don't give a crap anymore.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, all right, there's a little bit left in this.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything significant, but I guess, like, well,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: I think clav has a last word, So yeah, right
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: now I'm out. Why would we get him out a
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars? I'll be you see, like they're like, why
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: would we get him out?
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: He's like talking loud so that the guy who's still
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: leaving can hear him, and she's like shut the fuck up, right,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: So she's still wants to protect her meal ticket.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: That's interesting too, he's.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 9: Really scared because I'm scared. I would be too. But
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 9: this is like the kind of ship that you subject yourself.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 10: To, and you like, okay, but why are you like
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 10: not fa mean to me because you deserve it?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 9: You frans a bitch along with all my stats? Wait,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 9: were actually not me scared right now?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 11: If you're me, I would, but then I would also
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 11: say to myself, I subjected myself.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: Why are you even tolerating this clivicular? She's not scared
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: at most, she's scared of losing her meal ticket, right,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: She's not scared, And why would she be scared of
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: him when he's gone and behind the bodyguards. She's just
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: playing victim because she now wants you to retract everything
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: that you accurately said and predicted about her. God, I okay,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: if you're going to play this game, don't simp at
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: the end, just tell her that, Like, why can't they
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: just go that one step further and say, Okay, you're
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: not afraid. At most, you're worried about losing your meal ticket,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: you're worried about losing revenue, and then maybe after that
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: you are worried about your own ego. But you are
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: not afraid. Okay. The behavior that she's engaging and is
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: not consistent with fear, It's consistent with disgust. And he
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: can't be like, you know what, No, I'm gonna nail
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: you to the table on this. You are tempting to
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: use fear to defend yourself or as an offensive weapon
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: against someone that you've defrauded for potentially a million dollars.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: And if there was any justice in this world, he's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: going to a lawyer or his bank and maybe seeing
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: if he can get his funds traced and then returned right,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: but there probably isn't. He's probably going to give her
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: another hundred thousand.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: Yep. Probably he's probably going to give her more money.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to change anything.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: What, Okay? So do we have any further things that
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: we need to address? Do we want to do? We
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: want to do the next layer of white nighting, which
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: is the other dude you showed me.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: We could look at a little bit of Michael Knowles.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Michael Knowles is like he's one of the people that
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: responded to it. And if you guys don't know, he's
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: like from the Daily Wire. He did he did an
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: interview with Let's see if I can find the Okay,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: go right here. He did an interview with Clavicular like
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: a while ago. I didn't watch it, but oh, it's
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: a good point.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: I just run this through a punished club before we
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: go into it. What do you think think of her
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: claims of being afraid punished? Claude says performance not threat assessment.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: Real fear produces silence, scanning, withdrawal, operative reading of exits
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: and threats. She's verbally fluent throughout, maintains eye contact with
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: the camera, negotiates Labels, argues with Cavicular about whether or
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: not she'd call the police. Remember what he said, I
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: wouldn't call the police if he came up to her.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: And then suddenly at the end she's afraid.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, but I mean yeah, but I think
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Clave again is rightfully pointing out that she's.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Trying to basically have her cake, Anya too.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: She's trying to trick the guy in the thinking that
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: she actually she isn't afraid of him.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: But he's he's signing off on her being afraid. Unless
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: he's signing off on her being afraid of being exposed.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: None of that is fear behavior. It's frame collapse behavior,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: just in fear vocabulary, because scared is the script that
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: summons protection from the room. So she wants him to
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: protect her when obviously he was there to expose her fraud,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: right yeah, and now she's turning it on him and saying,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: you should have protected me instead of exposing my fraud. Well,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: presumably protection was what his bodyguards were for, right.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has bodyguards and all that, but I aah
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: protecting you, Yes he was.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: But I think when he says I'm protecting you is
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: not just in that sense, but I think also by saying,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: you know, you shouldn't be doing this, you shouldn't be
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: doing this as a career, maybe that's also to protect her.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe she needs.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Some man to tell her this is fucking stupid and
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: you're a retard and you shouldn't do this. I don't know,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just guessing, that's my guess.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: The tell she escalates scared to dead ass streamers slang
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: for being destroyed on camera. The vocabulary is social status death,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: not body threat. She's reaching for the word that would
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: normally produce interval Clurvicular security guards were already present. No
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: physical threat materialized. The protection she demanded was protection of
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: her control of the frame. Curricular was refusing to let
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: her perform the script, and I'm scared was an attempt
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: to make him stop. Right, AI gets it. Why can't
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: the rest of the world?
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so here's Michael Knowles. He's watching.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: He's watched part of it he didn't see because, like
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: the original viral clip was not the fifteen minutes that
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: we responded to. It was just the section where the
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: guy first walks in and says, you know, you're fatter
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: in person or something like that, and they have like
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: a it's like about a minute long, and Michael Knowles
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: is reacting to that, so he doesn't really have the
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: full context anyway.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 12: Go, oh yeah, all right, we'll put a pause here
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 12: before we get to the crucial point. But this is
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 12: an amazing interaction already off the top. So you might say, well,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 12: maybe this is all just fake, but I don't know.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: That it's fake.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 12: I mean, this lady is apparently an only fans lady,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 12: and so guys pay her money.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 9: Sign of a decade.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: That is definitely a phrase that I never thought i'd
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: hear an only fans lady.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: He tries to be proper. No, No, it doesn't.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 12: No, people are paying for pornography on the Internet, the
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 12: most abundant product that exists, probably on planet Earth, for free.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 12: People are paying for it. It shows you, It shows
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 12: you perversity, It shows you the the irrationality a vice,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 12: and it shows you decadence. But I have no reason
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 12: to believe that this guy hasn't spent a ton of
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 12: money on this lady.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: The desperation of some men for any kind of female companionship,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: no matter how toxic.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Is he like paying for companionship? I guess so.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: But he said he's not getting any DM. He's just
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: like gooning to her content. Is that like a proxy
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: for companionship? Not that, Not that I don't think this
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: guy does want companionship, But.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he didn't.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Not, I wonder if he was poorly served as a
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: child to the point where he doesn't really know what
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: that is. And he's just kind of like, I don't know,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just bread. For if he's like took the
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: super super day Trader serum and made him into Captain
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: day Trader and that's the only thing he knows how
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: to do really well, I don't know.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but can I Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: I think that there's sort of a certain element of
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: resource provisioning that is that men do it. They feel
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: like there's almost like a relationship and that doesn't necessarily
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: hold on the other side. And so I think even
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: if he isn't talking to her, but he knows that
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: he's giving resource is specifically to her. While so it's
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: the combination of that custodial instinct to provide and the
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: sexual instinct, which is fundamentally para bonding. Right, So even
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: though it's if it's even though it is an order removed,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: that's what he's doing. This is an outlet for para bonding.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: Ure he may have other women he does this too
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: as well, although wow, he must make a lot of money.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he probably pays for more than one, and
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: she definitely collects from more than one.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: Because that is like the the whole process of delivering
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: resources to a specific woman is also uh provisioning urge,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: like it's a it is, it is an aspect of
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: a relationship for men. And I know that sounds like,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: oh simping, but it's it's one of the things that
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: have you know, that evolved with para bonding, the kind
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: of paara bonding species that we are, so that on
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: his end, he feels like it's a relationship because he's
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: provisioning her and that's fundamentally pair bonding. And this is
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: like he's saying, well, why don't you just get porn
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: for free? Because it's not just a sexual urge, it's
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: also a custodial urge. He wants to feel like he's
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: provisioning her as well as being sexual with her, which
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: is bullshit. And nobody wants to point this out. Nobody
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: wants to say what this actually is, what this is,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: what is actually going on here, because god forbid, we
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: actually recognize that men aren't horrifying sex monsters that just
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: but that they also have other drives that are being exploited.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: And it's not actually very it's not very It doesn't
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: look very good. Anyway, Let's continue, Yeah, let's continue.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 12: So they sit down and what does this guy say.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 12: You'd you'd expect him to be really in love with
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 12: this girl.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: Right this, this is gonna piss you off. Just brace yourself, Okay.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 12: All this money, he looks at her and obsesses over
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 12: her all the time, he's infatuated with her. She'd expect him.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 12: You'd expect it to be embarrassing for him, but in
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 12: a different way. Perhaps you'd expect him to just say, like,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 12: I love you and I want to marry you, and
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 12: I want to You're just the most perfect thing ever.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 12: But it's not what he says. He sits down and
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 12: he says, hey, you're fatter in person, and she seems
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 12: shocked by it.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah because he likes that?
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah what?
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he liked that.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: Well, Michael Knowles doesn't know that, because again he didn't
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: watch watch the watch the thing.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: He watched the viral part.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: So this is basically achievements and ignorance we're watching here.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: And then the other thing.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: Is that there's also weird presumptions built into which I
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: think Linday and I both were like no, no, no, no,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: you're off the mark here. You don't get it, Like,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: like I said, this guy's obviously on the spectrum. Yeah,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: the Daily Wire of Conservative inc. He's I said, this
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: guy's obviously on the spectrum. And so that was probably
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: the best line.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: He was trying to say, I like you, and the
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: best that his mouth could do was you're fatter in person,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: but like no one that he deserves some benefit of
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: the doubt. I agree, but like, that's not what he's
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: gonna get. So, yeah, you stop calling the only fans
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: whoror fat, and that's wrong.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: She's a lady of only fans. That's one of those
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: lady whorees. All right, anyway, can.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: I just all of a sudden, yeah.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: I know, it's it's it's pathetic. No, this guy is pathetic.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: And also even if he had been like, oh yeah,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: you're fatter in person, and he'd been genuinely like it
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: hadn't been his mating, oh.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: So disgusting. Actually, I would totally watch that. I'd love that.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, he begins her what she up
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: giving him, like, really, let's be honest, and again this is,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: like I said, this is gonna be achievements in ignorance.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: But he she was actively repulsed by him, So on
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: every level, how can you blame him? For saying that.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: First of all, maybe he was nagging her like Brian
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: was saying, but honestly, it looks like he just thought
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: that that was a compliment and he's extremely autistic. But
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: also she actively demonstrated repulsion towards him, so on that level,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: she's treating him worse than he's treating her. And of
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: course that never penetrates. Sorry, I'm gonna say the conservatives generally,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: the general conservatives like these ones and never penetrates their
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: skull because they never conceive in the world in terms
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: of maybe women shouldn't be nasty to men. Maybe some
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: part of this is on women's heads against It seems
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: to be a lot of the conservatives that I interact
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: with have a big problem with that. Not all of them,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say all of them, yep, but
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of them do. And it looks like it's
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: the same thing here. Well, anyway, let's keep.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Going, Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 12: All of the bravado, the kind of performative confidence that
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 12: goes along with any performance on camera, and certainly with
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 12: like pornography or prostitution or stripping or whatever.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: All of that.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 12: Her tone shifts immediately she's kind of taken aback.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: Wait, what are you fucking kidding me?
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 12: Why does he say it?
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: This is why do you want whores daily wire? Because
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: this is how you get whores. Right, you are trying.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: You are firing your custodial instinct on the on a
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: bog monster. No stop. If she's gonna treat herself, if
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: she's gonna sell herself as an object, she gets assessed
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: as an object. And that's not even what he was doing.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: He wasn't even like assessing the merchandise he was. He
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: thought he was flattering her in his own idiom, which
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: he probably was in his own idiom. Okay, sorry, Brianna's.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: Fine, it's fine. I told you this was gonna piss
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: you off. It's not the whole video, though, so that's all.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: I just okay, let's see the rest.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 12: And she is just a product. It's like going to
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 12: the storm buying a pandagbaghul and you inspected. You say
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 12: the gob bagol, it's a little fatty. Hey, hold on,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 12: that's not what I paid for. He's not In other words,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 12: he's not in love with her. As a human being
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 12: would be in love with another human being. He he
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 12: he doesn't.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: Why should he be in love with a whole model?
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Well, he thinks, he seems to think.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: He seems to think that when men buy OnlyFans model
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: content and they start a parasocial relationship, that they actually
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: start to think that it's a real relationship. So he's
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: kind of being charitable in his own mind to the
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: man by assuming what the man would, how the man
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: would react, or how you would think he would. But
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: then he's like, but he's not reacting that way. He's
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: treating her like a product without acknowledging the reality that
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: she is treating herself like the product. Yes, but that
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: that's where he gets it wrong, right, So.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: Architecting this gigantic white Knight narrative of how the okay,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: let's keep going all right, No, No.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: He's absolutely white nighting owls. And I have the look,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: I have no love for this opinion. I'm serious, Like,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: he completely gets it wrong, and it's in the most
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: predictably bullshit trad conway possible. So and this is the guy,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: by the way, just so you guys know, when we
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: talk about Michael Knowles, he's the guy who interviewed Nala Ray,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: who was like the uh former you know, OnlyFans girl
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: that reformed and found Jesus and now is like a
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: pastor or something, And he basically supported her the whole
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: way and said, look, you know, forgive and forget. Let's
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: let her do that while and look, I don't think
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: this is a normal Christian thing. I think that people
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: can repent and they can like come back to Jesus,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean we give them a fucking job
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: as a minister. We don't give them power. We tell them, oh, okay,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: you're starting the path to redemption. Go sit in back
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: in the back of the church and shut up, because
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: you have a lot of work to do on yourself
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: before you can start telling people how they should live.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: But Nala Ray just went on ahead and basically created
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: a whole new way of making money online with just
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: like twisting it around. Michael Knowles was completely white knighting
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: for her from the beginning. So I'm just establishing the context.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: This is like something that this guy does.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: I think his wife should be concerned, and that's all
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. But anyway, so let's let's keep going.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 12: Or her in the way that a husband desires his wife.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 12: He desires her in the way that a fat Italian
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 12: guy desires goba ghul. He wants to consume her.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: Wait, what's what is the what's the point of this?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: He's saying that he's like a commodity instead of like
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: a potential partner.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: Even if this theoretical man that he is constructed, which
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: isn't the actual man in question, it's just a construct
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: to support his particular ideology, which is apparently maybe not
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: as anti male, but has definite strong strains of it.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: Let's just presume for the sake of argument that this
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: man was a man who regarded her as a commodity
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: to be consumed. Is she not presenting herself as a
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: commodity to be consumed?
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he's not good with holding women accountable. It's
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: it's his like gigantic weakness, I mean gigantic But okay.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 12: He's reduced her entirely to the material, just like flashing meat,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 12: and the reality of her is disappointing to him because
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 12: pornography is a glitterate and.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: It's amazing that he could say this. He's going to
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: get so much attention by the trag cons and the
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: fact that she couldn't even shake his hand without rubbing
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: her hand off on her thigh in disgust. That doesn't matter.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: That doesn't even know he didn't see He didn't see that.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: Though, you didn't see that? Okay, So this is, like
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: I said, achievements and ignorance. I'm guessing that this is
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: just gonna be me getting really pissed off at this man.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: But what what? But on the other hand, I'm like, well,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: he didn't even see what I saw, So how can
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: I even get pissed off at him?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: Well, but even if you even if even if I
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: think that, even if you didn't because I when I
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: first so, I saw this clip going around, but I
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: didn't watch the clip.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't really care. And then I saw Michael Knowles's
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: reaction video and it made me want to see the
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: full clip. But when I saw the Michael Knowles reaction video,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: I knew right off the bat when he said this,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, this this guy doesn't because
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: I watched the clip and I was like, that guy's
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: got autism or something like, he's really awkward.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: Is the way he talks, He's probably.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, he may be poorn addicted, he may have like
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: other issues.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know his personal life.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: But anybody who's giving like that much money to someone
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: they'll never meet, and I don't even know what the
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: hope of it is. Maybe he just has that much
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: to blow and he's like, fuck it, I'll just look
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: at her nudes or whatever. I think that there's definitely
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: something like that I want to sympathize with, like, oh,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: this guy, you know, he probably needs help.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is because it's not sustainable.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: You can't do that for your whole life, you know,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: Like that girl's gonna grow old and stop and probably
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: retire like at thirty or something, and maybe she'll blow
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: it all on drugs and end up having to come
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: back to OnlyFans in her forties. I don't know if
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: it even still exists. But the point is none of
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: this is this that they're doing, is sustainable. And I
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: have some sympathy for his situation, but I don't think
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: that he's being Michael knows as being. It seems like
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: he's like being really uncharitable to him because it's like
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: it's it's sort of nefarious that this guy's just like, what,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: there's too this My.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: Gaba ghoul is too fatty. This isn't exactly what I
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: paid for.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, I don't think you understand, like,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: and that's before I got the full context. That's why
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: to me, the context of him saying well I like
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: that or whatever, I don't think that's relevant because even
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: if he was just saying that, it could have been
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: attributed to him being on the spectrum. It could have
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: been that she just simply wasn't as glamorous as he
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: saw her in the pictures. Because she probably alters all
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: of her media. She probably has filtered, she probably puts
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: on all this makeup, she does all this work. She'd like,
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: you know, alters the images before they get released. It's
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: just like in porn. Like porn actresses don't look the
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: way they do in the movie that they do in
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: real life because they got to like look good for
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: It's an illusion.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: Hollywood actresses don't look the same, right, So if it,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: but then you would have to be able to see
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: it that way, be like whoa, Okay, So yeah, she's
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: obviously like not the same person because she's done all
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: this stuff to change her appearance before you know, when
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: she puts out her content, which makes sense because if
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: you want to like maximize profits, then you gotta max
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: you gotta looks max digitally online with your with your images.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: So again I'm just saying like.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing well. What I'm getting from this is
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: what he's describing is that this man should approach this
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: OnlyFans woman in a state of like being pair bonded
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: to her, So he should.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: Be that the context should be, is this girl somebody
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: who I want to mother my children? Yeah, so that
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: girl should be like, do I want to be the
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: kind of woman who is.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: A mother to children?
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: Are you like freaking delusion as a trad con Okay,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: But anyway, my point is he wants the male half
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: to be attending to the female half like he's in
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: love with her, like he's pair bonded to her. However,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: that means that the fraud is successful. So what he
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: wants is the only way that he can find this
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: acceptable is if men approach this as if they're in
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: love with the women. But if they're in love with
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: the women, it will only be because they're victims of fraud.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: So the only acceptable position for men to occupy, according
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: to this trad con is as a victim of fraud,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: and if they are not a victim of fraud, then
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: they're a horrible person if they actually say to the fraudster, Okay,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna treat you like a commodity, because you're treating
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: yourself like a commodity. I'm not gonna buy into the
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: fake thing that you're presenting in order to try to
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: trigger instincts in me that I don't have that much
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: control over. Right, I'm not gonna buy into that. We're
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: just gonna be I'm your your commodity, and I'm buying
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: a commodity. Let's go. If they they they match her
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: at her register, at her level of concern and her
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: level of care for them. They are the problem. The
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: men are the problem. This is how you get Horse Knowles.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: This is how you get an entire society of the
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: horror of Babylon, This complete lack of holding women accountable
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: and saying that regardless of what the woman does, the
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: man should be giving of his love to her. He
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: should she should behave like he's pair bonded to her.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: He shouldn't meet her at the register that he she
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: is meeting him, right, what is this shit? Ah freaking sorry,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: trad cons freaking.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, a little bit more and then we're done.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 12: So and the reality is inevitably going to be disappointing
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 12: because for him, this girl is in part glittering images
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 12: pixels and in part his own fantasies, and she can't
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 12: live up to his fantasies. So then she says, wait what,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 12: She doesn't know what to say, she's fl mixed, and
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 12: he says, what do you bring to the table? Once again,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 12: not Hey, how what can I do for you? How
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 12: can I help you?
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: And it's no that edited?
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: Was that edited?
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: Because that was the thing he says shortly after Yeah,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: but it's after he asks her, he asks, Oh no,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: he doesn't, no, no, it's not edited. He just doesn't.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: He doesn't recognize that part. He like that plays, he
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: sees that, but it doesn't register.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: These individuals like this particular ideology is not going to
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: solve a damn thing. Right, everybody who buys into this
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: particular ideology presented by Daily Wire not going to solve
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 3: a damn thing. You are not going to solve this
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 3: problem if you cannot hold women accountable. And if you
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: cannot accept that a man meeting a woman where she
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: is in terms of what she is willing to give
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 3: him doesn't reflect badly on him, then nothing changes. Nothing changes.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: We continue to have a birth rate crisis, we continue
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: to have a marriage crisis, we continue to be a
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: species in decline. This is bullshit.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I'm buying you.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 12: You're my slave, You're my product. And then you get
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 12: to the really crucial discovery of this bizarre interaction.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 10: Nice to meet you?
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, was it nice to meet him?
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: Wow?
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 8: Okay, I'm really scared, Like kick him out now, yeah,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 8: right now, I'm done.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: You just get this guy just gets really taken in
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: by her. Bullshit.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me fast forward to the end of this interaction.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 11: But like putting it right in front of you, it
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 11: just actually gives you a clear picture on what's going on.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 12: What an amazing turn in the interview, What an amazing turn,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 12: so revealing? It actually shows can I say it?
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: Can?
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 12: It shows that Clovicular has some real insight here. Some
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 12: of the things you said do not reveal insight, and
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 12: you should not follow them obviously, you know, like hitting
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 12: your head and hitting yourself in the head with a
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 12: hammer and injecting yourself with a bunch of drugs, and
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 12: you know, stymying puberty and what like making yourself infertile,
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 12: and some of his sociological political observations not ideal, but
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 12: here on this specific interaction which crucially is not even
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 12: just about men and women. It's about digital versus real life,
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 12: which is his expertise. Because I think that was the
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 12: discovery of my two hour interview with Clitbicular, which you
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 12: can get on YouTube and on Daily Wire. The discovery
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 12: was this guy was bred in a petri dish by
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 12: and for the Internet. This guy is just like the
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 12: perfectly distilled concentrate of growing up on the Internet, which
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 12: means he understands the Internet really, really well.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: So he goes on this whole thing about how Clavicular
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: is like, you know, understands the difference between the real
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: world and the Internet, and he's exposing this to the
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: girl and basically moves away from this being about men
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: and women completely, which is like annoying because like the
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: I hate the the this this comes from everybody, regardless
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: of their political alignment. A lot of people think it's
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: really easy to just blame social media for stuff, blame
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: the internet for stuff, And I just think it's a
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: really sad excuse when, like when when when women are
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: treating men poorly, we just say, oh, it's social media,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: it's the Internet, it's the it's it's it's algorithms. But
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: when men treat women poorly, it's men. And even when
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: men don't treat women poorly, if we see women appear
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: to have been treated poorly maybe or they behave as
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: though they're afraid of something affecting them in some way,
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: it's men. But if it's women doing it, no, no,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: it's social media. Women are women don't do that that's
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: happens to them, you know. And this is kind of
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 2: like where he's going with this, and it's it's annoying,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: like it's because it's just like it's I'm gonna say,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: it's probably even wilful ignorance.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: But these guys, guys are not ready for this conversation.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: So just saying definitely blue pilled, shits.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: Amazing how much people waste their time with stuff like this.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: It's not going to change anything, all right, Let's keep going.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 12: And so when she says, WHOA, I'm scared right now.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 12: I think that's genuine. I think she is scared you.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: It's not, it is not. And we just heard her say, oh,
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't call the cops on him. Whatever.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm scared right now, and Clavicular says you should be. Yeah,
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 12: I would be scared too. And then she says, why
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 12: aren't you protecting me? He says, what are you talking about?
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 12: I mean protecting you. I have security guards all over here.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 12: You are as well protected right now as you are
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 12: ever going to be. But why are you putting yourself
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 12: in the position you are vulnerable?
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 3: You know, these people are not gonna do anything. They
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: cannot even fucking conceive that. Maybe sometime we should stop
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: and think about how the world looks to men and
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: how it works for men, and does it actually give
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: men what they need? Like this bluepilled crap is just infuriating,
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 3: especially when it comes from tradcons because they siphon off
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: people's attention, because they almost feed off of being the
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 3: opposite of the insanity on the left. And yet they
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 3: don't have an answer, They don't have a functional way
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 3: forward because they cannot say they or cannot do the
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 3: simple act of blaming women. They can't And I'm gonna
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 3: use the word blame because people have said, oh, don't
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: use the word blame, just help them response. Oh no,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 3: because once you start on the path of making it
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 3: feel good for women, right, making making it about how
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 3: women feel, you get away from holding them to a standard.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 3: And this is what this guy is doing right now.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 3: It's about how she feels. Clovicular is pointing out the obvious,
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 3: which she also must be aware of. There are bodyguards everywhere.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: She's safer than in any other circumstance, right, And then
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 3: this guy is like, Wow, what the real takeaway is
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: that if she wasn't being protected by Clovicular, she wouldn't
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: be safe. It's unlikely that she's going to be confronted
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 3: in a way by this by by their by her fans.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 3: This is the first time she's probably even met one
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: of her fans. That's not the issue. That's not the
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 3: non safeness that she's actually talking about. She's talking about
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: not feeling safe in terms of her social reputation, in
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 3: terms of her income. Oh god, And this person's I'm
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: gonna use the word tinocentrism. This person has guinocentris poisoning, gnocentrism,
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: poisoning toxicity. He's somehow had a fatal a near fatal
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 3: dose beamed into his brain.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's basically it, so uh yeah, because
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: he just goes on and blame the internet or whatever,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: so like it basically will like how do I you know,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: not land on. We gotta do something about women because again,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know we need If we're gonna.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: If you want to end whoores, you gotta kill the
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: demand and the supply so or at least limit it
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: in some way. But like, women are constantly putting out
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: the supply and the reason is because nobody tells them
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: they can't. And look the most popular again call her Daddy,
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: still most popular podcasts in the world for women, and
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: she essentially promotes this stuff. It's all about that get
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: that bag, you know, very materialists, very shallow, and women
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: consume the content and they see their friends are doing
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  Speaker 2: it and they jump on board and like, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: people are not enough, people are calling it out.
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  Speaker 1: Just put it that way, so.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, and this is really despairing, like and and this
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  Speaker 3: guy's not making it any better. I mean, the the
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 3: the squirting and the ruinbow thing was a little bit disconcerting,
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  Speaker 3: But then again, she he's probably seen her masturbates, so.
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  Speaker 1: Would say that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta consider the context other than that he was
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  Speaker 3: the only he actually asked about her, and that in
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  Speaker 3: the original statement was apparently his attempt to flatter her.
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  Speaker 3: All right, and he's so autistic that I could believe it.
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  Speaker 3: H and uh yeah, like uh and then what do
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  Speaker 3: you bring to the table? That was after he asked,
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  Speaker 3: what are you interested in? What do you bring to
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  Speaker 3: the table, like surely something like a hobby or an interest,
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  Speaker 3: and and uh and I don't know like that that
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  Speaker 3: he's buying into the framing. And it's just not helpful.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: It is really not helpful. No, oh good lord. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: all right, we could watch this. I sent you a clip.
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  Speaker 3: It's sort of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, uh yeah, sure, let's look at this quick.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's completely complete. Now for something completely different, all right,
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 3: it's in uh.
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  Speaker 1: I already put it. It's already be shared right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's in honor of this dude. All right. I can't
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  Speaker 3: hear it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh it's just music.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It says this bull was brought into the heifer pen
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  Speaker 2: to start the natural breeding process. They're playing the song
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  Speaker 2: I like him Chunky, I like him Big from was
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: that Madagascar something like that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I guess we can't play that. Probably even though
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: it's on YouTube, we can't play it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll it'll definitely.
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  Speaker 3: Look how the cows are all like.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: Morning glory milking farms coming right up.
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  Speaker 3: But spec he's appropriate, yes, for sure. And then they
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 3: all come and they're all like gathering around him for sure.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 3: Need more of that energy in the human race. Okay,
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