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Chuck & Buck 10-29 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, odds-on Candy faves & Reckless at Breakfast. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 2: the Montreal Canadians have a three nothing lead. Capton gets
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Speaker 3: and the Seeattle Tucket tie the game at free.
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Speaker 4: losing to the Montreal Canadians at home in overtime four
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Speaker 4: to three. Coolfield, I'm already sick of you, but it
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Speaker 4: was a furious third period comeback for the team just
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dorothy Montour raised herself a good one. Say so proud.
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Speaker 4: Let's take a look at your frost brewed Corslight choose
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Speaker 4: Chill headlines before Greg Bell joins the show here this morning,
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Speaker 4: and we'll start with the World Series. Toronto Blue Jays
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Speaker 4: bounced back from that eighteen inning loss the night before
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Speaker 4: to defeat the Dodgers and show Aotani sixth to two.
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Speaker 4: The series is even at two games. Apiece Y Savage
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Speaker 4: versus Snell tonight. Unless you're selling perfume. Then it's yesabage, Yes,
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Speaker 4: completely different pronunciation.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's more address.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the frozen frenzy last night as well, crack and
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Speaker 4: we're a part of that, but we've already covered that story.
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Speaker 4: Sounders played game two of their three game series against
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Speaker 4: Minnesota United in the MLS postseason coming up on Monday.
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Speaker 4: They are down one game to Minnesota United, so they
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Speaker 4: have to win the last two to advance in the playoffs.
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Speaker 4: Just where Brian Schmetzer likes to have his opponent thinking
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Speaker 4: he's got one up on the old mad scientist. It's
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Speaker 4: never gonna happen Minnesota. Yeah, it's hump days see for
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Speaker 4: the Seahawks, So we'll be playing the Commanders this Sunday night.
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Speaker 4: We're also six days away from the NFL trading deadline,
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Speaker 4: and so to talk about these topics and others, we
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Speaker 4: welcome our Seahawks insider, the great Greg bed. All right,
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Speaker 4: good to have you with us here again this morning.
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Speaker 4: It is humpday, yep, and I want to start with
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Speaker 4: a former Seahawk at our conversation today. Bobby Wagner kind
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Speaker 4: of looks like feels like this is going to be
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Speaker 4: his last season. So this is the last time he'll
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Speaker 4: be on the field, I think with the Seahawks in
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Speaker 4: a football game, even though he's on the other side
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Speaker 4: of things. How big of the story is Bobby Wagner.
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Speaker 4: He usually is when we face him, but this time around,
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Speaker 4: to bring him up on a Wednesday, how much of
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Speaker 4: your coverage will be devoted to seeing Bobby Wagner again.
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Speaker 1: Well, I was going to take an opposite tack and
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Speaker 1: today at Seahawks and talk about how well he's playing.
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Speaker 1: At age thirty five and a half. He played every
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Speaker 1: snap of sixty nine. There's only three Washington players who
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Speaker 1: played every snap on Monday night at Kansas City, and
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Speaker 1: he was one of them. He had ten tackles. He
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Speaker 1: had his fourteenth career interception went through Travis Kelsey's hands
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Speaker 1: and into his. He's played ninety nine percent of the
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Speaker 1: snaps this year. He played ninety nine percent of the
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Speaker 1: snaps last year. He second in the league in tackles
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Speaker 1: right now, behind Jordan Brooks. By the way it does,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like he's slowed down at all. Now.
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Speaker 1: He's not as fast as he used to. He saw
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Speaker 1: that both at the end of his first Seahawks tenure
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Speaker 1: and then in the second Seahawks go around when teams
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Speaker 1: targeted him, especially in the past game. But he's got
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Speaker 1: a coach and Dan Quinn that'll let him be the
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Speaker 1: middle linebacker for the Washington Commanders as long as Quinn
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Speaker 1: as the coach and as long as Wagner wants to.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not convinced this is the last go around
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Speaker 1: for him. I haven't talked to him in a while,
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Speaker 1: but since the last offseason. But he, of course we know,
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Speaker 1: has a lot of other things besides football going on,
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Speaker 1: and philidthropic interest and business interests and does a lot
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Speaker 1: with each pcus there's more than football to Bobby Wagner.
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Speaker 1: So he didn't have to play, but he's still producing
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Speaker 1: at a level that would suggest that he's not just
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Speaker 1: fading out. And to play ninety nine percent of the
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Speaker 1: snaps at middle linebacker, that takes a toll on you
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Speaker 1: for doing it for fourteen years, yeah, going on thirty
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Speaker 1: six years old. That's I was gonna talk to Ernest
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Speaker 1: Jones today if I get an opportunity to about just that.
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Speaker 1: Trying to play that position at Jones plays as physically
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Speaker 1: as that it demands, and to do it for fourteen years.
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Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer. He's a first Bobot Hall
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Speaker 1: of Famer. Privileged to have covered and to know him
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Speaker 1: off the field as well. There'll never be another like
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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner for longevity, uniqueness, perspective, everything. He's a joy
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Speaker 1: to be around. He enriches people that he is with.
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Speaker 1: He just has a lot more than football going on,
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Speaker 1: which might be the strongest thing I can say about him.
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Speaker 4: Nineteen hundred career tackles, I mean, and then add college
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Speaker 4: to that. Imagine just like tackling another human being three
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Speaker 4: thousand times in your life.
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Speaker 1: He had He's had thirteen thousand, six hundred snaps in
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Speaker 1: just regular season in the NFL, thirteen six hundred car
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Speaker 1: crashes in the middle of defenses. His job is to
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Speaker 1: slam into people on every snap, and he's done it
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Speaker 1: almost fourteen thousand times.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you've you've went on at length about
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Speaker 7: when they went out and got Ernest Jones last year,
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Speaker 7: how much that shifted and shaped the way in which
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Speaker 7: the defense can play. And so this weekend they're going
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Speaker 7: to be going up against you know, Bobby Wagner. And
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Speaker 7: so even if he maybe has lost half a step.
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Speaker 7: Maybe he's not as capable of going sideline to sideline
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Speaker 7: like he was back in the legion of Boom days.
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Speaker 7: What he brings to the table between the years has
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Speaker 7: got to be something that maybe that Sam Darnold and
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Speaker 7: company are going to be alerted to.
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Speaker 6: You gotta worry about how smart he is back there, right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Buck, there's nothing he hasn't seen pre snap, post
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Speaker 1: snap during plays. The communication the commanders, Actually, I've been
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Speaker 1: trying to do a little bit of what Mike McDonald's doing,
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Speaker 1: layering their play calls, changing at the snap, and it
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Speaker 1: hasn't worked. They've had a bunch of injury. They had
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Speaker 1: both their defensive ends are an injury reserve. They have
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Speaker 1: safety on injured reserve. They are really hurt, especially on defense.
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Speaker 1: They aren't tackling very well. So the last week the
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Speaker 1: Commanders and Bobby Wagner talked about simplifying, not having layered
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Speaker 1: play calls either ors if a team is in shotgun
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Speaker 1: or a team's under center, if a team's in this formation,
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Speaker 1: to change the call and to be more to just
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Speaker 1: be simpler. Wagner's in the middle of all of that,
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Speaker 1: and he has seen everything and A big advantage that
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Speaker 1: Wagner has in being able to play fast at age
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Speaker 1: thirty five is he's playing with the coach he grew
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Speaker 1: up with. The Ken Norton Jr. Was of course the
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Speaker 1: position coach, but dan Quinn was the main thrust of
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Speaker 1: the legion of Boom defense and coordinating, and he worked
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Speaker 1: the closest besides Norton he was. Quinn was closest with
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Speaker 1: Wagner on those early twenty ten Seahawks, So the familiarity
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Speaker 1: with each other is off the charts for a guy
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Speaker 1: at this point in his career. He's hand picked by
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Speaker 1: dan Quinn to be in the middle of the Washington
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Speaker 1: defense because of their experience in Seattle. There's nothing Donald
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Speaker 1: and Kobac and formations and motions can do that Bobby
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Speaker 1: Wagner hasn't seen defended and beaten in the past.
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Speaker 4: Greg bellis with US our Seahawks insider. Yeah, one hundred
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Speaker 4: and he's second right now in the National Football League
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Speaker 4: in career in tackles this season behind.
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Speaker 6: Jordan Brooks by the way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, they're one and two, but he's one hundred
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Speaker 4: and thirty nine tackles away from the all time record.
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Speaker 4: I realized that tackles isn't like sacks or touchdowns or
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Speaker 4: things like that. As a matter of fact, sometimes the
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Speaker 4: tackle stat just sort of suggest that you play on
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Speaker 4: a bad team that's on the field a lot. We
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Speaker 4: know that's not the case in Bobby Wagner's career. So
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Speaker 4: I guess my point is that being the leading tackler
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Speaker 4: does not come with the same sort of spice that
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Speaker 4: other statistics do. But do you think it is important
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Speaker 4: to Bobby Wagner? Do you think that he wants to
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Speaker 4: retire as the all time leading tackler in NFL history?
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Speaker 1: Yes? I talked about this with him. His position, that's
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Speaker 1: job one is to tackle and to tackle him where
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Speaker 1: you hit him. I talk about that a lot with
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Speaker 1: Ernest Jones and how the defense changed last year because
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Speaker 1: Dotson and Baker were getting dragged like ten cans on
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Speaker 1: the back of an old pickup truck when they would
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Speaker 1: hit people. And absolutely opposite with Ernest Jones, the same
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Speaker 1: with Bobby Wagner. When he tackles you, you go down.
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Speaker 1: And that's the difference between punting and getting first downs,
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Speaker 1: which becomes a difference in not scoring and scoring, which
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Speaker 1: becomes a difference between wins and loss is tackling is
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Speaker 1: the the prerequisite of a middle linebacker and to be
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Speaker 1: the best at ever doing it and the most that
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Speaker 1: ever had it. You're right statistically, some teams are accused
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Speaker 1: of padding tackle stats and giving tackles to guys who
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Speaker 1: just jump onto a pile at the end. But to
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Speaker 1: be the all time that speaks of longevity at that
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Speaker 1: position in particular. I mean, ask Brian Urlacker, as Dan
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Speaker 1: Morgan asked Luke Keaghley. It's hard to play at an
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Speaker 1: elite level for as long as Bobby Wagner has without
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Speaker 1: really damaging yourself physically. Wagner keeps himself in exquisite shape.
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Speaker 1: He jokes with me about hot yoga. He always told
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Speaker 1: me I should go to the hot yoga studio in Bellevue.
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Speaker 1: You'd that would be the day that I can't even
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Speaker 1: go with my wife in hot yoga. Why would I
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Speaker 1: go with Bobby Wagner that He was always telling me
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Speaker 1: to do that, and how restorative it was for him.
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Speaker 1: Now he loves it. He has a little place on
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Speaker 1: the East Side he always was near where he lived.
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Speaker 1: I think he still goes there in the offseason, and
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Speaker 1: his diet has been impeccable since he was in his
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Speaker 1: early mid twenty He wasn't eating McDonald's when he came
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Speaker 1: into the league. He just is a pro and to
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Speaker 1: him all of that, he doesn't talk about the accolades,
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Speaker 1: but the tackling in particular the tackle mark is a
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Speaker 1: big deal for the position to show that he did
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Speaker 1: it year over year over year for fifteen years.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: I'm going to ask you something that I think Chuck
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Speaker 7: kind of brought up to us yesterday. I mean, is
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Speaker 7: this a game against Washington that if they don't have
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Speaker 7: Jaden Daniels, is it a walkover a game against I
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Speaker 7: mean with Marcus Mariota back there or do? I mean
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Speaker 7: they're going to prepare either way. But is Jaden Daniels
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Speaker 7: the X factor of whether or not this could be
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Speaker 7: a game.
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Speaker 1: Well, he's the decisive factor. Yeah. If he doesn't play
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Speaker 1: by then the game shifts heavily towards Seattle and their defense.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call anything the Seahawks do will walk over.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're that good of a team and
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Speaker 1: anybody can beat them. I mean anybody. And the Commanders
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Speaker 1: drove into Kansas City Territory Monday, night. Five times five
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Speaker 1: of their eight drives were in Chief's territory, yet they
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Speaker 1: only scored a one touchdown. Was their best drive was
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Speaker 1: the first drive of the game, and they got inside
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Speaker 1: the red zone, just marching down the field, running and passing,
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Speaker 1: and then a pass went through receiver's hands intercepted. It
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Speaker 1: was a bubble screen. It was a really weird play.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was McLaren that the ball went right
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Speaker 1: through his hands and into the defenders' hands, and that
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Speaker 1: was the end of the drive and they were chasing
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Speaker 1: the rest of the game. They didn't run the ball
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Speaker 1: at all, I mean sixty yards. They ran it just
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Speaker 1: six times. After halftime. It was a seven to nothing game.
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Speaker 1: Then it was seven to seven and a half, it
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Speaker 1: was fourteen to seven late in the third quarter. Yet
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Speaker 1: Washington ran it just six times in the second half.
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Speaker 1: They I've mentioned this a couple of times. The Seahawks
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Speaker 1: number one ranked defense against the run, to me is
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Speaker 1: somewhat artificial because the Jaguars, the Buccaneers, those teams didn't
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Speaker 1: even run at all. Washington needs I know they Austin
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Speaker 1: Eckler is out injured as well on injured reserve out
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Speaker 1: for the year, they need to run the ball. Jayden
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Speaker 1: Daniels has always been a part of that, well always
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Speaker 1: in the year and a half he's been in the league,
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Speaker 1: and he's got a hamstring issue, so even if he plays,
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Speaker 1: he may not be the run factor he normally is.
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Speaker 1: RPOs and keepers that Mariota would be healthy. But if
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Speaker 1: Daniels doesn't play, the Seahawks should win. To answer your question,
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Speaker 1: if Daniels does play, this is not easy. This is
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Speaker 1: still a team that went to the NFC Championship Game
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Speaker 1: last year. Injuries aside. They're ticked off. They're three and
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Speaker 1: five and there's talking Washington as to what's gone wrong,
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Speaker 1: and they're angry and they realize that they have more
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Speaker 1: talent than this. They're playing a tougher schedule this year.
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Speaker 1: They're not winning the games at the end like the
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Speaker 1: Hail Mary against Chicago that they won last year. This
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Speaker 1: team last year, when they won eleven plus games and
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Speaker 1: went to the MC title game, they won five games
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Speaker 1: in the last second, either on the last play or
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Speaker 1: the last five seconds of a game. That's hard to do,
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Speaker 1: and eventually the law of averages catches up to you,
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Speaker 1: and you don't always win all those games, and that's
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Speaker 1: also some of what's happened this year are.
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Speaker 4: Sawks inside of Greg Bell with us here on checking
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Speaker 4: back in the morning. You can of course follow him
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Speaker 4: So I know Seahawk fans are excited about having the
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Speaker 4: gang back together in the defensive secondary this Sunday night.
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Speaker 4: How pumped is Mike McDonald to have his a team
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Speaker 4: going Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Winnerspoon's the big deal. Ju looks like he's back.
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Speaker 1: I didn't see Witherspoon in the brief part of practice
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Speaker 1: we could watch on Monday. They didn't have to put
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Speaker 1: out a practice report and an injury report on Monday,
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Speaker 1: so there was no word on whether Witherspoon even came
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Speaker 1: out on the field after we weren't allowed to be
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Speaker 1: out there. We'll know more a little more today. But
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Speaker 1: he had said last week McDonald had that Witherspoon is
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Speaker 1: coming back to practice fully this week too, or that
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Speaker 1: was the expectation. The Witherspoon piece coming back. I mentioned
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Speaker 1: this the other day, But that makes them hole for
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Speaker 1: the first time since the opener since the first five
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Speaker 1: plays of the opener, and then there's the question of, well,
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Speaker 1: what do you do when they're all back, because to me,
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Speaker 1: Witherspoon and even Warrior are going to play. You're not
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Speaker 1: gonna take even worry out of Nickel that he's been
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Speaker 1: excelling at. They may go a lot more dying with
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Speaker 1: six defensive backs so they can get Woolen and Emon
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Speaker 1: Warry on the field with Witherspoon, and if they go dime,
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Speaker 1: that means of been only one linebacker on the field
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Speaker 1: most times, and that would be Ernest Jones, and they'd
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Speaker 1: take Drake Thomas off. They they just haven't had these options,
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Speaker 1: and as McDonald said, this is a good problem to
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Speaker 1: have them excited to have those decisions to make, because
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Speaker 1: I've been just done. If we didn't have the numbers
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Speaker 1: at full strength that we've had since the opener, for
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Speaker 1: them to be five and two, the number one against
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Speaker 1: the run, the pressure rates that they've gotten without having
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Speaker 1: to blitz all of that, without having their starting off
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Speaker 1: defense together since the fifth player of the season speaks
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Speaker 1: to how well they've been playing. No matter who's been
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Speaker 1: in there, the defense is where this team will lie
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Speaker 1: this is where they're If they're winning the division, it's
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Speaker 1: because of the defense. I know Donald's having a great
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Speaker 1: season and Smith and Jig Gobs leading the league. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna win based on their defense. And now it's finally
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Speaker 1: hold again.
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Speaker 4: All right, man, great stuff. As always, we round table.
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Speaker 1: At tomorrow, we do. Yeah, the table will be round.
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Speaker 4: It will be round. You and Hugh chopping it up
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Speaker 4: for us here tomorrow. So we look forward to.
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Speaker 1: Man, now that I'm not gonna have a World Series
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Speaker 1: iatus for the roundtable. Maybe hockey hiatus for it or Huskies,
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Speaker 1: I don't know when curling. Yeah, that's that's true. Gymnastics
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Speaker 1: is a winter sport in some places.
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Speaker 4: I'm excited to do it, all right, all right, thank you.
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Speaker 8: those Reci's peanut butter cups with Oreo cookie like it's
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Speaker 8: a mixture. No, I've had the Oreos that have been
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Speaker 8: combined with Reese's peanut butter cups, and.
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Speaker 5: Those are amazing.
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Speaker 6: Have you had the big cups?
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Speaker 5: No, that's too much.
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Speaker 6: I've always liked okay cups.
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Speaker 7: No, yeah, okay, peanut butter big cups different. They have
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Speaker 7: some that have like potato chip in them. Oh yeah,
20:44
Speaker 7: oh no me. They're gigantic and they're big.
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Speaker 4: They're like this big, you know, popcorn and milk duds
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Speaker 4: together at the movie theater.
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Speaker 5: That's the best that would be true.
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Speaker 6: There is.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very good.
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Speaker 6: It's very good.
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Speaker 5: I just don't like the big ones are too big.
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Speaker 4: So peanut butter cups are a three and a half
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Speaker 4: point favorite all over all other Halloween No, but not
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Speaker 4: even Snickers can't take the hook.
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
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Speaker 6: It's pretty good though.
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Speaker 4: All right, well it does satisfy question number two. After
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Speaker 4: Reese's and Snickers. Twigs still a two and a half
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Speaker 4: point underdog to Snickers and sounds like a six point
21:20
Speaker 4: underdog to Reese's. But Ashley, I know you like twigs.
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Speaker 4: Do you take twigs and the points?
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Speaker 8: I would take twigs in the points and I don't
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Speaker 8: care if to right twigs or left twis Do.
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Speaker 4: You have to have both the twigs in order to
21:32
Speaker 4: take it over as Snickers or you just take the
21:34
Speaker 4: left door.
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Speaker 5: Of the right I'll take either one.
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Speaker 7: Okay, what do you think, Bucky, I'm not taking anything
21:40
Speaker 7: over a greecious peanut butter cup, especially all the different variations,
21:44
Speaker 7: because there's just one variation of twigs.
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Speaker 4: Twicks within at least two and a half points of Snickers.
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Speaker 6: Are you saying.
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Speaker 7: No, no, a three point Oh yeah, yeah, you reach
21:55
Speaker 7: his peanut butter cups and Snickers.
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Speaker 6: I can live on it.
21:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, way more than a Snickers.
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Speaker 4: The home field advantage they say, is worth three points
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Speaker 4: in football, So you're saying that there's no way that
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Speaker 4: if I'm even with home field advantage TwixT as beating Snickers.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a wild card. It's getting all right.
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Speaker 4: Next one, if you've had enough chocolate or let's say
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Speaker 4: you're allergic to.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fun talking about chocolate though.
22:18
Speaker 4: Starburst is a typical five point dog to chocolate treats,
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Speaker 4: but with the home field advantage like those I've mentioned previously.
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Speaker 4: Do you lay the five points and take Starburst at home?
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Speaker 6: Fiction? Fiction?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I wouldn't take that.
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Speaker 7: Yeah no, again, always small, they don't have big Starbursts.
22:39
Speaker 7: It's got work to get to one little thing that
22:41
Speaker 7: then let's be honest, by the end of it, it's
22:44
Speaker 7: kind of annoying, like, all right, just go away, go
22:46
Speaker 7: get out of there.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I like, but I do too, But
22:51
Speaker 8: that's too big for Starbursts to overcome five points even
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Speaker 8: at home.
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Speaker 4: Well that's what I'm saying though, Like, would you take
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Speaker 4: the points? Yeah? No, Like I'm right recognizing the chocolate's
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Speaker 4: going to be the favorite.
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Speaker 5: No, I still think it's I think on a given.
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Speaker 4: Day, I take the Starburst in the points.
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Speaker 5: On a given day.
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Speaker 4: Finally, like the Jets, well, Smarties ever again be a favorite.
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Speaker 5: No, if they're playing the Bengals for children, when.
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Speaker 7: It's because it's Smarties, the ones that you can get
23:24
Speaker 7: the necklace, those smartiest necklaces.
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Speaker 5: Different, similar, similar, but it's a different.
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Speaker 7: Because as a child, when I get a whole necklace
23:31
Speaker 7: full of Smarties, maybe that's wrong.
23:33
Speaker 6: I could be wrong there.
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Speaker 7: If there's no necklace, No, it's a You're just a
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Speaker 7: jet for life.
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Speaker 4: It's just the little pieces of flavored chalk, right.
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Speaker 6: Yeah's not a fan?
23:41
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, but what's upon a time they were
23:43
Speaker 4: pretty popular, but it's been a long time since.
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Speaker 5: You have a lot of candy options back in the day.
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Speaker 4: It's been a long time since anyone grabs Smarties first
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Speaker 4: out of the out of No, my kids do that
23:53
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Speaker 4: All right, Ashley's picked today. Who are we gonna go with?
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Speaker 5: Well, we're gonna go to Buffalo.
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Speaker 8: Okay, we're going to the NFL Kansas City and Buffalo
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Speaker 8: meeting up again on Sunday and I always love a
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Speaker 5: Give me the Bills plus the two and a half
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Speaker 4: The big Daddy match for the weekend, that's right, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 4: And that's the crazy thing with the Bills is like
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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 8: But they seem to do well against the Chiefs in
24:57
Speaker 8: the regular season.
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Speaker 4: They don't they do better? Yeah, they definitely do better.
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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it.
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Speaker 5: All Right, So where's the game being played in Buffalo?
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Speaker 4: In Buffalo and they are underdogs? Yeah, at home? So
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Speaker 4: they can't say City Chiefs. That is a little surprising. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I do have the Mariners off season already on my brain.
27:29
Speaker 4: Bucky and I had several conversations off the area yesterday
27:32
Speaker 4: trying to figure out exactly what the Mariners are going
27:37
Speaker 4: to have to spend this offseason because it's very difficult.
27:40
Speaker 4: You can go to these websites, but they're a little misleading,
27:43
Speaker 4: and they don't have all the accurate information, and some
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Speaker 4: of the things can be a bit confusing to try
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Speaker 4: to sift through. And so through my own research through
27:53
Speaker 4: Adam Jude, using his article recently in the Seattle Times,
27:57
Speaker 4: and then also just reaching out independently to a couple
27:59
Speaker 4: of people last night to try to get my brain
28:02
Speaker 4: and my arms around this. This is basically what the
28:06
Speaker 4: Mariners are going to have going into the offseason through
28:10
Speaker 4: arbitration numbers that are going to go up this year
28:13
Speaker 4: for a handful of players on this roster. They're sitting
28:17
Speaker 4: right now with in their minds about one hundred and
28:20
Speaker 4: thirty to one hundred and thirty five million dollars in
28:23
Speaker 4: payroll already committed. So that's where they're at right now,
28:26
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty to one hundred and thirty five.
28:28
Speaker 4: And based on what we heard from Justin and Jerry
28:31
Speaker 4: themselves in the press conference last week, they want to
28:35
Speaker 4: start the season where they kind of finished the season
28:38
Speaker 4: payroll wise, and so the projected payroll that their friendly
28:44
Speaker 4: zone is one hundred and sixty to one hundred and
28:47
Speaker 4: sixty five. That's where they're sort of wanting to start
28:51
Speaker 4: next year. So that gives you about thirty million dollars
28:54
Speaker 4: in payroll to work with this offseason. Now, before you
28:58
Speaker 4: start thinking about the big names you're going to add,
29:01
Speaker 4: it's going to go away really quickly if in fact
29:04
Speaker 4: your goal is to bring back a couple of the
29:07
Speaker 4: guys who are reaching free agency. As a matter of fact,
29:11
Speaker 4: it's not a payroll when you consider bringing Josh Naylor back.
29:15
Speaker 4: It's really a nay roll. That's what it is. What's
29:18
Speaker 4: our nay roll going into this offseason, and our nay
29:21
Speaker 4: roll thirty million dollars is going to be eaten up,
29:24
Speaker 4: probably about twenty million a year on Josh Naylor if
29:27
Speaker 4: in fact they can figure out the right combination of
29:30
Speaker 4: words and money and promises to Josh Naylor to keep
29:34
Speaker 4: him in a Mari in her uniform. Now, if you
29:35
Speaker 4: add Polonko, let's go add Polonko. You're looking at like
29:39
Speaker 4: two years twenty five million dollars for Polonko. So per season,
29:42
Speaker 4: that's twenty that's thirty two and a half. Right there,
29:46
Speaker 4: there goes there goes your nay roll. It's used up.
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 4: That's all we got to spend. And that's not adding
29:53
Speaker 4: one single player that wasn't on the roster last year.
29:57
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, it's subtracting a Geno Suarez
30:01
Speaker 4: from the roster because it just unless Gino Suarez just
30:04
Speaker 4: gives them the deal of a lifetime. I just don't
30:07
Speaker 4: think that their idea is to bring Geno Suarez back
30:11
Speaker 4: next season, and I think he's certainly third of those
30:15
Speaker 4: three guys on their priority list. So first base, you
30:19
Speaker 4: have a hole. I mean you traded away Tyler Locklear,
30:22
Speaker 4: Luke Rayley. You just couldn't feel confident him playing that
30:25
Speaker 4: position next year. So if it's not Josh Naylor, then Okamoto,
30:30
Speaker 4: the Japanese player that's going to be entering free agency
30:33
Speaker 4: this year, or maybe a Max Muncy you get him
30:37
Speaker 4: on a shorter deal away from the Los Angeles Dodgers.
30:40
Speaker 4: They're not going to bring him back next season, at
30:42
Speaker 4: least I doubt so. First base as a hole, Josh
30:45
Speaker 4: Naylor fills it quite well. Third Base I don't think
30:48
Speaker 4: that they see as a whole. I think they're okay
30:51
Speaker 4: starting the season next year with Ben Williamson getting great defense,
30:55
Speaker 4: getting a contact hitter, and seeing if he can develop
30:58
Speaker 4: a little bit of power. Here's also the other thing
31:01
Speaker 4: about it. Colt Emerson is probably going to be up
31:05
Speaker 4: at some point during the season and probably not gonna
31:09
Speaker 4: bump JP Crawford out of the starting lineup. It's probably
31:12
Speaker 4: Colt Emerson that will if Ben Williamson can't get the
31:16
Speaker 4: job done, He'll get the first crack at replacing Ben
31:20
Speaker 4: Williamson and becoming our starting third baseman, with the idea
31:23
Speaker 4: that JP's got one year left on his deal, and
31:26
Speaker 4: then JP hands over the shortstop position to Emerson when
31:29
Speaker 4: this season comes to a close. So Emerson is your
31:33
Speaker 4: solution to a Ben Williamson and to JP Crawford at
31:37
Speaker 4: the exact same time. I think that is their plan.
31:40
Speaker 4: And if you bring back Polonko, he's obviously in the
31:43
Speaker 4: second base mix along with Reevas and Ryan Bliss. But
31:47
Speaker 4: their idea is that Cole Young becomes a fixture, Polonko
31:51
Speaker 4: becomes the DH. They have every faith that Cole Young
31:54
Speaker 4: is going to be a really good player for the
31:56
Speaker 4: Mariners for a long time to come. So with all
31:59
Speaker 4: that said, just to summarize, do not expect a lot
32:03
Speaker 4: of additions this offseason. They'll tinker, but I don't think
32:06
Speaker 4: we're going to have a significant off addition to this
32:10
Speaker 4: team what you can expect, and I fully believe this
32:15
Speaker 4: is an attempted repeat of how they did things in
32:18
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. They did not have a productive offseason
32:21
Speaker 4: last year, and they ended up having a very productive
32:24
Speaker 4: trading deadline. So what I think they're going to do,
32:27
Speaker 4: because they have even fewer holes this offseason than they've
32:30
Speaker 4: ever had in the Depoto era, is I think they're
32:33
Speaker 4: going to be very quiet when it comes to additions
32:35
Speaker 4: this offseason, and then they will be very loud again
32:39
Speaker 4: at the trading deadline. If Ben Williamson and Colt Emerson
32:43
Speaker 4: don't work out, we'll go get a third basement at
32:45
Speaker 4: the trading deadline. The idea being that we get an
32:48
Speaker 4: expiring contract like we got in Josh Naylor. We can
32:51
Speaker 4: get a fifteen to twenty million dollar value third baseman,
32:56
Speaker 4: but we only pay him a third of that salary
32:59
Speaker 4: for the rest of the year, and then we can
33:01
Speaker 4: assess whether or not we want to continue with that person,
33:03
Speaker 4: or try to continue with that person, or not continue
33:06
Speaker 4: with them. So for those that have big visions of
33:09
Speaker 4: what all's going to be added this offseason to the
33:11
Speaker 4: Mariners roster. I'd kind of quit on that. I think
33:14
Speaker 4: the goal is going to be to bring back Naylor
33:16
Speaker 4: and Polonko and then just run it back with the
33:19
Speaker 4: same dudes like they did in twenty twenty that they
33:21
Speaker 4: had in twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five.
33:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I would assume that they're not probably. I mean,
33:28
Speaker 7: that's the old saying of don't fix it if it
33:30
Speaker 7: ain't broke, And I mean, I guess if you want
33:32
Speaker 7: to think that there was a brokenness because you didn't
33:34
Speaker 7: get to the World Series, you can go ahead and
33:36
Speaker 7: think that. I think you're a couple of swings, are
33:38
Speaker 7: a couple of different pitches away from from being there
33:41
Speaker 7: and still competing. So yeah, if you can figure out
33:43
Speaker 7: a way to bring back I think the most important
33:46
Speaker 7: is Naylor Polonko. I don't know what he's done to
33:50
Speaker 7: his value. Obviously, he's not going to sign the club
33:54
Speaker 7: or the one layer option. You know he's gonna he's
33:57
Speaker 7: gonna want more than that. And so but if you
33:59
Speaker 7: can do that bring those two, I think that fills
34:02
Speaker 7: your significant holes because you don't have a DHR as
34:05
Speaker 7: of right now, and you don't have a first basement
34:07
Speaker 7: as of right now. Yeah, feel those two. I'm fine
34:09
Speaker 7: with going with the youngsters. I like what I saw
34:12
Speaker 7: of Ben Williamson. I think there's still room for growth,
34:14
Speaker 7: and exactly the same with.
34:16
Speaker 6: With Cole Young.
34:17
Speaker 7: And you still would have, you know, the opportunity for
34:20
Speaker 7: Polonko to play some second base and or Bliss when
34:24
Speaker 7: he comes back from his injury.
34:25
Speaker 8: Yeah, we do get a text of someone asking does
34:27
Speaker 8: this include Garver or no Garver?
34:29
Speaker 5: No Garver, no Garver.
34:30
Speaker 4: They will not pick up the Garver option, that that's
34:32
Speaker 4: not going to happen. So yeah, so I think that's
34:35
Speaker 4: the off season, so I would prepare yourself accordingly. I
34:39
Speaker 4: think that they feel good about being able to bring
34:41
Speaker 4: Naylor back and Polonko back. It's not going to be
34:43
Speaker 4: all three of them, but if they do bring back
34:46
Speaker 4: two of the three, that probably means there aren't a
34:48
Speaker 4: lot of other additions that are going to be made.
34:50
Speaker 4: The only other wild card in this is if you decided,
34:53
Speaker 4: you know what Randy Rose arena with just one year
34:56
Speaker 4: left on his contract, maybe we move him or Luis
34:58
Speaker 4: Castillo at twenty four million dollars. Maybe we move him.
35:01
Speaker 4: That's how you may may figure out a way to
35:05
Speaker 4: bring in new faces to fill other gaps. But at
35:09
Speaker 4: this stage, I think they're pretty much going to try
35:11
Speaker 4: to run it back in twenty twenty six with the
35:14
Speaker 4: same team they finish twenty twenty five with and then
35:17
Speaker 4: leave themselves the potential to add where they have holes
35:21
Speaker 4: via injury or failures at the trading deadline, being very aggressive.
35:26
Speaker 4: I think that's the game plan that worked, they feel
35:28
Speaker 4: worked for them this year, and I have a feeling
35:30
Speaker 4: they're going to try to repeat that going into next season.
35:33
Speaker 4: So maybe that's disappointing to you, maybe that's uplifting to you.
35:36
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I believe in my heart that
35:39
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