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Champagne-Gate Continues! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. What a day it is to
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Speaker 1: be alive and why because it's Bachelor Tuesday, Ashley, I
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Speaker 1: can Eddie. How you doing? Hey, I'm so good. How
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Speaker 1: are you? I'm super good. I'm actually right now in Sebastian, Florida. Sebastian,
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Speaker 1: Florida is the home or my great grandpa bought his
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Speaker 1: retirement home, and then my grandfather, his brother, his sister
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Speaker 1: all got vacation homes down here and this is kind
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Speaker 1: of the the Higgins side of the family where they
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Speaker 1: where they've retired to. And so I'm down right now
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Speaker 1: visiting my great aunt. And Jessica came down to spend
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Speaker 1: the weekend with me as well. That's so nice. Yeah. Hey,
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Speaker 1: before we started, I've got to talk about myself for
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Speaker 1: a second. It's something that which one the golf tournament. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I gotta talk about it. It's a huge deal. So
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Speaker 1: if you're out there and you're like, then I don't
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Speaker 1: want to hear you talk about yourself. This isn't fun
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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, well it's really fun for me. So here, um,
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Speaker 1: my dad, my mother, uh, and Jessica and I all
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Speaker 1: spent the last week in Orlando, Florida at the Diamond
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Speaker 1: Resorts Tournament of Champions. Here's what it is. It's a
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Speaker 1: celebrity tournament and an LPGA tournament side by side. I
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Speaker 1: have to think the podcast because I think the only
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Speaker 1: reason I'm still invited into these celebrity tournaments is because
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Speaker 1: of this podcast. I think because it's it's wild to me.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I had to play along. My group had
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Speaker 1: Larry the Cable Guy, Marcus Allen, Heisman Trophy winner, Hall
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Speaker 1: of Famer. I also had Joe Carter. I I mean,
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Speaker 1: I played along, and then I also played along some
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Speaker 1: of these LPGA professionals. It was an amazing week. My
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Speaker 1: goal was to break eighty one of the days, and
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Speaker 1: my very last day actually I shot a seventy eight,
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Speaker 1: which for me and tournament play is incredible. Um, and
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Speaker 1: I got to have my dad caddying for me all week.
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Speaker 1: Jessica walk in the Ferriyes, my mom. Is amazing week.
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Speaker 1: I'm so pumped. That's why I'm such a good mood
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Speaker 1: today because it was something to be talked about. Ben.
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. Um. We should be happy
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Speaker 1: for ourselves collectively because we were nominated for the I
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Speaker 1: Heart Podcast Award in the Pop category. We did a
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Speaker 1: whole marathon of the show the other day without you,
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Speaker 1: and you were greatly missed. My throat was sore after it.
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Speaker 1: We didn't win, But I know this isn't such a
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Speaker 1: cliche Hollywood phrase, but it was pretty cool to be nominated.
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Speaker 1: Did it feel cool when you were there? I mean
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Speaker 1: I was down here playing in this tournament, so I
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Speaker 1: wasn't able to make it, but was it cool to
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Speaker 1: be there? Yeah? So, like a little Bertie's had kind
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Speaker 1: of told me beforehand that we didn't win, because you know,
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Speaker 1: we are an I Heard podcast, we kind of have
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Speaker 1: like insider knowledge is who's gonna win who's not. So
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Speaker 1: like I knew going into that, so I wasn't like
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Speaker 1: super like stoked and nervous, Like if I was gonna
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Speaker 1: have to take an acceptance speech or anything, and I
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Speaker 1: can't even imagine us winning and you're not being here,
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Speaker 1: that would be crazy. But when we heard our names, sir,
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Speaker 1: when I heard my name and then Caitlin heard her name,
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Speaker 1: like right next to our podcast, it was a really
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Speaker 1: cool moment. I was like, oh my goodness, I feel
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Speaker 1: seen and that is you know, it is really nice
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Speaker 1: to be to feel seen, I think in any part
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Speaker 1: of life. And for us, this is our first nomination.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be our last. Ashley or
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Speaker 1: it feels like the podcast just continues to grow. Who
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Speaker 1: Who Who won the category the Breakfast Club podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure if you've ever heard of that before. Jared, Yeah, Jared,
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Speaker 1: so that they were they were a good one to
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Speaker 1: lose too. Yeah, yeah, they're good. And I mean we
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Speaker 1: got to be in the same category as Caitlin, one
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Speaker 1: of our best. That's really cool. Yeah, awesome. So what
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Speaker 1: did you learn from this, like marathon of a podcast?
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Speaker 1: Anything cool to talk about, to recap and kind of
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Speaker 1: point people back to listen to that episode. Well, if
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Speaker 1: you guys are Gray as Anatomy fans, Tanya, Becca and
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Speaker 1: I did a lot of venting over how this show
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Speaker 1: has been scripted the past couple of years, and of
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Speaker 1: course the departure of Alex Krev which was horrible. Um.
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Speaker 1: We also had um oh. I loved the part where
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Speaker 1: we had the ladies from the Intimate Knowledge podcast. They
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Speaker 1: it was Brooke Burke, Megan King, Edmund Edmunds and then
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Speaker 1: a sex therapist that they have on the show as
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Speaker 1: well as sex relationship therapists, and we talked about like,
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Speaker 1: you know, feeling sexy and feeling yourself and like just
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Speaker 1: carrying yourself in that way. So that was really cool.
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Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite parts of it. And
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Speaker 1: then I loved having Rosalind Sanchez and her husband Eric
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Speaker 1: Winter on because Jared Jared joined me for that segment
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Speaker 1: and we just talked about marriage and it got so
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Speaker 1: rab and I realized I'm so much like Rosalind and
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Speaker 1: Jared is so much like Eric, and it was just
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Speaker 1: like a really cool bonding moment, and especially since I've
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Speaker 1: watched her shows for years and I think, like she's
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Speaker 1: just so beautiful and amazing. You got to meet some
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Speaker 1: really incredible I feel left out, but I mean I
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Speaker 1: had a great time myself, but I feel like you
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Speaker 1: had a really good experience at the show. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: I did. It was a really good podcast. I felt
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Speaker 1: it was strong. It was strong, and it wasn't It
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Speaker 1: wasn't about the Bachelor, you know, it was just kind
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Speaker 1: of fun to mix up every now and then. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't solely about the Bachelor. Yeah, well, this podcast is
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Speaker 1: about the Bachelor Day. We have a lot to talk
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Speaker 1: about when it comes to Bachelor Nation. We have some
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Speaker 1: news that involved Bachelor Nation in Jennifer Andison. We also
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Speaker 1: want to talk Luke pe If you forget who he is,
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Speaker 1: he's the villain from Hannah season. We have some massive,
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Speaker 1: massive news when it comes around Peter Webber. But before
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Speaker 1: we get to all these things, Oh my god, wait
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Speaker 1: before Yeah, Ashley has a crazy fact that you just learned.
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Speaker 1: I just thought I had to interject it in here
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Speaker 1: because I would forget it otherwise. Peter Webber was born
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Speaker 1: at the hospital that my dad has worked out for
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Speaker 1: the past twenty three years. Wow. That is I had
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Speaker 1: no clue to this fact. That's an amazing addition to
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Speaker 1: the show. Did your dad deliver him by chance? No,
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Speaker 1: so my dad started working there two or three years
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Speaker 1: after Peter was born there. But it's been the buzz
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Speaker 1: I was. I was texted by a nurse the other
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Speaker 1: day like, was Peter born here? Because like everybody's talking
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Speaker 1: about it, and I was like, oh my god. And
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Speaker 1: I texted him and I was like where were you born?
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Speaker 1: And he said Fairfax And I was like, well, there's
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Speaker 1: only one hospital in like the city of Fairbax, Virginia.
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Speaker 1: So you were born at my dad's hospital. That's so crazy.
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Speaker 1: America's favorite little heart throbs was was laying being coddled
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Speaker 1: in Fairfax, Virginia. One time, Hey asked, before we get
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Speaker 1: to the massive news surrounding the show, let's take our
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Speaker 1: first break, talk about our sponsors, and come back to
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Speaker 1: talk Peter over season of The Bachelor. Actually, you are
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Speaker 1: a pop culture, uh, source of knowledge. You are like
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Speaker 1: a Wikipedia of pop culture. You are going to walk
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Speaker 1: me through these stories because I don't really know them
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Speaker 1: very well, and I know I can count on you too.
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Speaker 1: So the first story headline is going to read out
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Speaker 1: here and you can explain it to me. As Jennifer
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Speaker 1: Anderson says Hannah Brown can stay home now after appearing
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Speaker 1: on Peter Webber's season of the Bachelor. She said this
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Speaker 1: during the SAG Awards interviews. I mean, actually, every week
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Speaker 1: I find out a new person that loves the show.
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Anderson was my childhood crush. I adored her. To
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Speaker 1: the fact that she might possibly know my name just
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Speaker 1: makes me feel all sorts of ways. But do you
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Speaker 1: agree that Hannah Brown should stay home? And what did
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Anison mean by this, there's not much to go
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Speaker 1: off of. There's not a video interview here, and I
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Speaker 1: do know that the that the magazines can take quotes
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Speaker 1: and make a story around them of their own. So
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Speaker 1: the only quotes we have, um are that she's of
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Speaker 1: course watching the Bachelor. Um. She says that she believes
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Speaker 1: that the producers are just using these poor women at
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Speaker 1: this point, and that she says, I do think Hannah
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Speaker 1: can stay home now. I think she just has the
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Speaker 1: opinion that is shared by so many other Bachelor viewers,
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Speaker 1: which is all right, we've had a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a Hannah Brown overload right now. I think she's still
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Speaker 1: going to remain a huge favorite of this franchise. UM.
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Speaker 1: I think maybe she just you know, she's been seeing
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Speaker 1: on the past three seasons now and I think people
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Speaker 1: and plus plus um dancing with the Star. So I
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Speaker 1: think that a lot of people are just thinking, alright, Hannah,
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Speaker 1: give us a break from yourself and then come back emerge.
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Speaker 1: And and if she does take this a little break,
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Speaker 1: I think she has a higher chance of being the
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Speaker 1: Bachelor again a couple of years down the road. I
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Speaker 1: don't think she's going to be on the table as
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Speaker 1: being the Batch Laurette option for this coming season. So
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Speaker 1: actually we haven't touched on this subject in a few
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Speaker 1: weeks now, but we're now three episodes in on Peter
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Speaker 1: Webber season. Is there a chance that she comes back
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Speaker 1: on this season ends up with Peter. Is that still
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Speaker 1: even a possibility? Uh? I don't think so. I think
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Speaker 1: I lost hope now, But I also still think it
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Speaker 1: was a really weird way for them to end that chapter.
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Speaker 1: Last episode was just so inconclusive. We didn't get any answers.
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Speaker 1: So that's my only it's my only thing keeping me
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Speaker 1: thinking that possibly there's more to come, but well more
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Speaker 1: to come here. This might this might be one of
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Speaker 1: the most interesting stories of the week to me. The
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Speaker 1: bachelor at villain Luke p if you remember him, he
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Speaker 1: was definitely the villain on Hannis season. He was around
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Speaker 1: a long time. Is now seeing Justin Bieber's ex Caitlin Beatles.
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Speaker 1: I read this headline again. I know nothing about this,
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Speaker 1: but how and why and what and why and why?
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Speaker 1: There's not much to go off of besides the headline
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Speaker 1: in this case as well, they've been seeing each other casually.
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Speaker 1: It's I don't doesn't look to be a full blown
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Speaker 1: relationship yet at this point. She's you know, very religious girl,
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Speaker 1: and and that's her her history. I feel like it
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Speaker 1: was a very brief relationship because while she looks familiar
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Speaker 1: and her in her name sounds familiar, um like, she's not,
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Speaker 1: of course, one of Justin's great loves. You know, she
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Speaker 1: was probably one of the in between girls between Haley,
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Speaker 1: Haley and Selena and the The source says that they've
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Speaker 1: been spending a lot of time together, but they're not
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Speaker 1: officially dating. They care about the same thing, specifically family
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Speaker 1: and faith, um, and they're interested to get to know
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Speaker 1: each other more. They've run in the same circles for
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Speaker 1: a while. Well, hey, good of them. I hope it's true.
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Justin was literally like
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Speaker 1: fifteen when he dated her. It says that they dated
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Speaker 1: around two thousand eight, two thousand nine, so yeah, just
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Speaker 1: about fifteen. Yeah, so no, wonder Yeah, it's not like
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Speaker 1: it's not a name that pops off. But hey, you
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Speaker 1: know what, good for Lupie. We wish him the best. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, we haven't heard a lot from him since
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Speaker 1: his time on the Bachelor, Uh, it makes sense. His
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Speaker 1: time on that show was rough, to say at least,
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Speaker 1: so he's bouncing back with just spending some time with
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Beatles. Who knows where it goes. We hope it
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Speaker 1: goes somewhere good. Um. Chris Harrison says hosting the Bachelor
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Speaker 1: franchise has made him a better dad. This was taken
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Speaker 1: from People dot Com. I mean, I'm sure it's true
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Speaker 1: Chris has shown. I mean, if you meet Chris off
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Speaker 1: the show, as as you and I both have. Actually,
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Speaker 1: he is very similar to how he is on the show,
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Speaker 1: very polished, very quick witted, knows how to manage a situation. Also,
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Speaker 1: he is dealt with a bunch of twenty year olds
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Speaker 1: for twenty years and helping them find love. I think
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Speaker 1: it would help him get some practice for raising his kids.
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Speaker 1: It makes sense. Yeah. He says that because of the show,
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Speaker 1: he's a better listener. He says that he sees situations
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Speaker 1: in less of a black and white sort of way.
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Speaker 1: And he says that it's kind of made him in
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Speaker 1: a way less like, less selfish, where he doesn't think
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Speaker 1: like my way or the highway anymore. When you're a dad,
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Speaker 1: And he says, life is not so black and white,
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Speaker 1: so it makes it makes him see like all different
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Speaker 1: aspects of a situation. I suppose. Yeah, well, hey, uh,
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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison just continues to stay in the headlines. And
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a good opportunity to
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Speaker 1: say it. What's maybe most surprising about Chris Harrison. Uh,
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Speaker 1: not because of the man he is, just because of
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Speaker 1: the industry he lives in. He's been on the show
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Speaker 1: for a long time and he barely ever, if ever
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Speaker 1: I can remember, has gotten a negative headline. You're so right,
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Speaker 1: and that is mine impressing, really really impressive that he
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Speaker 1: stayed that way. Um, next time line. Peter Webber has
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Speaker 1: appeared in a commercial for Sylvan Learning Center way back
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Speaker 1: in the day. If you've watched this commercial, it's something
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Speaker 1: to be remembered. It just decisiven't a story. I'm just saying.
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Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it, you gotta go back and
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Speaker 1: google or something. Peter Webber Sylvan Learning Center. He was
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Speaker 1: an actor. If you remember this child actor, especially at
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Speaker 1: one point in his life, it's hilarious. You'll never see
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Speaker 1: Peter the same way again. I remember do you remember
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Speaker 1: seeing Yeah, like the Silvan Learning commercials were like so
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Speaker 1: such like a thing of our high school period, and
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Speaker 1: I feel like I've definitely seen that one before. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I wonder how many people picked up right away that
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Speaker 1: was him? But remember this, I mean, he's Peter Webber
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Speaker 1: is a man of many talents. He continues to surprise us.
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Speaker 1: But I do have some criticisms of him today on
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Speaker 1: the podcast, So stick around for those I love the guy.
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Speaker 1: I think he's a good dude, but I have some
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Speaker 1: questions for Peter, and I want to get him answered.
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Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're gonna call him out. On
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Speaker 1: The Bachelor's Marissa Gunn says I gained and then lost
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Speaker 1: eighty pounds after pageants destroyed my self image. Actually, you
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Speaker 1: talked to the Game Of podcast about meeting with some
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Speaker 1: ladies to talk about what makes you feel sexy as
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Speaker 1: a human. Um, we've heard this a few times now
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Speaker 1: about pageants. Do you think pageants are putting unneeded pressure
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Speaker 1: on men and women to be a certain body type
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Speaker 1: or image. I mean, this is this is hard to
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Speaker 1: hear that we can't just be celebrated for who we
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Speaker 1: are and we have to feel like we have to
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Speaker 1: lose eighty pounds yeah. Um, I feel like pageants are
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Speaker 1: trying to move along with the times, you know, they
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Speaker 1: one of them. I think it was as America did
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Speaker 1: without the bikini competition now, and I think that's great.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's needed. I mean, here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: I remember as a middle schooler watching pageants and I
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Speaker 1: and I I did that with my family and my
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Speaker 1: grandma loved pageants, and nothing's you know, there's really never
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Speaker 1: felt like there's anything needed by the bikini. Um show.
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Speaker 1: There really isn't. No. I mean, it's about like charm um.
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Speaker 1: The way you you hold yourself, carry yourself, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: answered the questions, the way you walk into bikini really
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Speaker 1: should say nothing about your worthiness to be crowned. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well hey, next and final headline before we jump into
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Speaker 1: this last episode of the Bachelor, Chris Harrison thinks Jeduy
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Speaker 1: should compete on the New Bachelor spin off to redeem himself.
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Speaker 1: We just had jed Y on our live show. I
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Speaker 1: could say this, uh in the response was not great. Um.
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Speaker 1: I mean he was great. He he really was. He
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Speaker 1: he performed, he answered the questions. You could tell he
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Speaker 1: got a little bit upset. And I get why people
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Speaker 1: weren't exactly kind to him if I was jed, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I know he still wants this career. Is this a
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Speaker 1: good move? Well, I mean he has a girl. Actually,
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Speaker 1: before you answer, please give our audience a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a recap of what this new show is. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so the new show is. It's actually a Bachelor official
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Speaker 1: spin offs called The Bachelor Listen to Your Heart. It's
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Speaker 1: a dating show specifically for musicians. So they're going to
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Speaker 1: intertwine you know, performing writing music with love and then
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Speaker 1: I believe they'll be episodes like their row ceremony form
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Speaker 1: is going to be like up on a stage where
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Speaker 1: a couple they sing together, they performed together, and then
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Speaker 1: they're voted off based on chemistry and talent. So basically
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Speaker 1: they're gonna put like a whole bunch of like minded
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Speaker 1: people in a room. And I think it's kind of
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Speaker 1: coming out of A Star is Born. Okay, So kind
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Speaker 1: of imagine like the chemistry that we felt during A
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Speaker 1: Star is Born and put it on a weekly Bachelor show.
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Speaker 1: It's the best I can describe it. Isn't there like
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Speaker 1: a show out there right now, like called like Flirty
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Speaker 1: Dancing that kind of does Yeah, that one's coming off
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Speaker 1: of Dirty Dancing, So now it's like kind of like
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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of TV show adaptations from movies. Um well,
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Speaker 1: I would say that, Yeah, it actually would be a
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Speaker 1: fantastic idea for Jed to go and try to redeem
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Speaker 1: his image on that show. But he has a girlfriend
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Speaker 1: and he says that he's in love with her, right,
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Speaker 1: so I don't think he'll be going on anytime soon.
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Speaker 1: But if it's renewed for a season two and he
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Speaker 1: breaks up with his girlfriend for some reason, maybe we'll
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Speaker 1: see him. I mean, honestly, uh, I always do want
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Speaker 1: to believe in second chances. I don't know the back story.
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Speaker 1: Here's a crazy part about the Jed thing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think we know kind of what happened. We still
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Speaker 1: haven't never, never gotten a clear answer from from Jed
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Speaker 1: on what exactly happened. Well, I think Jed will stand
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Speaker 1: by the the idea that he really truly broke up
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Speaker 1: with that girl beforehand. Yeah, well so if that's the case,
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Speaker 1: if that's the story he's sticking to, if that's the
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Speaker 1: only story we know, then go on this show and
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Speaker 1: you know, see if you can find love in a
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Speaker 1: in a different way and if not, I mean, I
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Speaker 1: don't know how this this show will enhance your musical career.
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Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like one of those shows. It feels
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Speaker 1: like more of like the romance type part might flourish.
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Speaker 1: But we'll be tuning in and you better believe we'll
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Speaker 1: be talking about it here in the almost Famous podcast.
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Speaker 1: I know, like now that this is a new Bachelor
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Speaker 1: franchise show, are we are we obligated to speak about it.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be think I can't believe it's The Bachelor.
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Speaker 1: Listen to your heart like it's actually a Bachelor show.
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Speaker 1: It's wild. I mean, our off seasons just gets shorter
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Speaker 1: and shorter and shorter. I can't imagine being Chris Harris
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Speaker 1: and that guy has to work all the time. Actually, this, uh,
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Speaker 1: this season The Bachelor has been nothing less than super dramatic.
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Speaker 1: I think from everything I'm reading online, all the tweets
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Speaker 1: and messages, I'm getting drama is the definition of this
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Speaker 1: season so far. So we're going to talk about this
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Speaker 1: week's dramatic episode of the Bachelor, but before we do,
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Speaker 1: let's take one more break. We're gonna come back already
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Speaker 1: talk about Hannah and Victoria Peter and all of the
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Speaker 1: drama leading up to the very end of Week three
19:37
Speaker 1: of The Bachelor, Champagne Gate continues Actuley Well. Champagne Gate
19:54
Speaker 1: go down as one of the most memorable scenes of
19:57
Speaker 1: all times. I think, so I'm in love with it.
20:01
Speaker 1: I think it is hilarious. It is hilarious. It's basically
20:05
Speaker 1: like an SNL writer's dream. The girls go back and forth.
20:11
Speaker 1: She pops that champagne on her face. It's a hilarious gift.
20:14
Speaker 1: And now she goes, I don't even like champagne, and
20:18
Speaker 1: then Hannah and cannot stop saying I'm not a champagne steeler.
20:22
Speaker 1: I can't believe how many times she said not a
20:24
Speaker 1: champagne stealer. Like she just came up. She just came
20:27
Speaker 1: up with that expression on her own. It's so silly.
20:31
Speaker 1: I I just can't imagine being in the house. So
20:34
Speaker 1: let's and in rest in peace. Sarahcy, she's not gone
20:38
Speaker 1: after this week. Um, but can you imagine being Sarah Cy?
20:41
Speaker 1: Somebody quiet who feels like exactly yeah. She she didn't
20:47
Speaker 1: say a lot during this season. Um, she was trending
20:50
Speaker 1: last night on Twitter because she didn't say a lot.
20:53
Speaker 1: But people liked her a lot. Oh is this the
20:54
Speaker 1: really pretty girl? Yeah? My girlfriend brother, Yeah, texting me
20:59
Speaker 1: about her already. Like just that kind of stuff going on.
21:03
Speaker 1: So can you imagine being seriously sitting back watching this
21:07
Speaker 1: go down. You're taking it all in and all you
21:09
Speaker 1: can hear is two girls going back and forth about
21:11
Speaker 1: stealing champagne and that you're not a champagne stealer. Like,
21:15
Speaker 1: how is Peter thinking he's finding his wife in a
21:18
Speaker 1: group that is talking about stealing champagne? Obviously we all
21:23
Speaker 1: love champagne? Is the facade for all the issues that
21:27
Speaker 1: Kelsey and the other girls have with Hannah and and
21:30
Speaker 1: Kelsey says that the deeper issue here is the bullying
21:34
Speaker 1: and how the how Hannah ann called her name calling
21:38
Speaker 1: bullying But in my opinion, it wasn't bullying. It was confrontation,
21:43
Speaker 1: it was name calling, but it wasn't like this pattern
21:46
Speaker 1: of aggressive behavior that was threatening Hannah. And do you,
21:52
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, because we didn't get a
21:54
Speaker 1: clear picture of this from this last episode, do you
21:57
Speaker 1: think Peter has turned off at all right now by
22:00
Speaker 1: any of these women or do you think he even
22:01
Speaker 1: knows this is going on to extend which is going on, Okay.
22:05
Speaker 1: The weirdest thing. The weirdest part about this episode to
22:08
Speaker 1: me was that we see Hannah Ann and Kelsey had
22:13
Speaker 1: that conversation by the pool where she says she doesn't
22:17
Speaker 1: like Champagne all that. It doesn't really conclude, but like
22:20
Speaker 1: it concludes with us thinking like, oh, this is so
22:22
Speaker 1: silly that we're just not going to address it anymore.
22:25
Speaker 1: But the weird part to me is that the last
22:28
Speaker 1: episode ended with Peter talking about how confused he was
22:34
Speaker 1: over who was telling the truth and how upset he
22:38
Speaker 1: was that there was accusations of bullying, and then this
22:41
Speaker 1: week we don't address that at all. Kelsey doesn't even
22:45
Speaker 1: have to sweat it out of um sweat it out
22:47
Speaker 1: at the Row ceremony. She gets a rose right off
22:49
Speaker 1: the bat. There's no further addressing between the three of
22:53
Speaker 1: them what went down, and it seems like Peter is
22:58
Speaker 1: over it. And we had a little bit of this
23:01
Speaker 1: during Colton season. I remember, if you remember right like that,
23:05
Speaker 1: that we had the hand of b in Kalen situation
23:07
Speaker 1: and it was like back and forth for a while.
23:09
Speaker 1: It got really good and really ugly, then really good again,
23:13
Speaker 1: and then it just kind of ended, and we were like,
23:15
Speaker 1: all right, are they good? Like it just stopped. And
23:19
Speaker 1: I think it might be because there's so much to
23:21
Speaker 1: pack into each episode now, But some of these storylines
23:24
Speaker 1: I feel like need a conclusion and I don't think
23:27
Speaker 1: we have, Like, um, guys, why is the right? Like
23:31
Speaker 1: I know there's not writing because it's a reality show,
23:33
Speaker 1: but like we need to close these storylines. They're they're
23:36
Speaker 1: leaving them wide open. It's gizarre to me, And I mean,
23:42
Speaker 1: like we have that big hand of storyline and we
23:44
Speaker 1: have this big storyline and both of them don't conclude,
23:48
Speaker 1: and then they they focus so much on the Alaya story.
23:53
Speaker 1: The whole hour was dedicated to Alia, but we couldn't
23:57
Speaker 1: even just got three minutes concluding the conversation between Kelsey
24:01
Speaker 1: and and Peter because there obviously was one. There had
24:05
Speaker 1: to be one. I mean, that's that That is a
24:07
Speaker 1: confusion for me. So we're gonna talk about Leia here
24:10
Speaker 1: a little bit in the podcast. So let's run through
24:12
Speaker 1: how this podcast played or how this episode played out,
24:15
Speaker 1: and then we have a lot to talk about because honestly,
24:17
Speaker 1: an hour, like Ashley said, was designated to a Leia
24:21
Speaker 1: Victoria gets the one on one date. This week they
24:24
Speaker 1: go line dancing. It was your I think Actuley I
24:28
Speaker 1: would describe it your is your typical week three one
24:31
Speaker 1: on one? It was good. Uh. I feel like she's
24:34
Speaker 1: gonna be around a long time. They have a lot
24:36
Speaker 1: of potential. There doesn't feel to be a lot of
24:39
Speaker 1: negatives to their relationship. However, I don't think I was
24:42
Speaker 1: convinced that she's the one after one one on one day,
24:45
Speaker 1: Like the sparks didn't fly like you have seen with
24:48
Speaker 1: like the Nick and Vanessa's right, you said it perfectly.
24:53
Speaker 1: I watched this. I was like, oh, they have something
24:55
Speaker 1: to build on. This is not his wife, but she'll
24:58
Speaker 1: go far. And then I think it was blatantly obvious,
25:03
Speaker 1: um that there chemistry doesn't even compare to Madison's chemistry.
25:11
Speaker 1: When we see Madison at the pool party and they're
25:14
Speaker 1: like forehead to forehead and the most intimate moment ever,
25:16
Speaker 1: and he's telling her that the date that they had
25:19
Speaker 1: was the greatest first date of all times. So it
25:21
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so yes, Victoria, p uh, it was
25:25
Speaker 1: a nice date. But I don't I don't see I
25:29
Speaker 1: don't say whoa you know what I did say well
25:32
Speaker 1: over though, is who Victoria p is as a person,
25:36
Speaker 1: her story, how she has uh kind of fought through life, UM,
25:45
Speaker 1: overcoming the passing of her dad and her mom struggle
25:50
Speaker 1: with addiction, UM, keeping her family together, being the rock
25:54
Speaker 1: for her family through it all. Uh. I know through
25:57
Speaker 1: that she mentioned that she never felt worthy for a
25:59
Speaker 1: guy like Peter. But I'm telling you right now, Victoria
26:03
Speaker 1: pe if you listen to this podcast at all, which
26:05
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised when I get messages from some of
26:08
Speaker 1: the some of the contestants saying they do listen, you
26:10
Speaker 1: are definitely worthy of a guy like Peter. You're worthy
26:13
Speaker 1: of anybody like your story. Just who you are and
26:16
Speaker 1: what you represent is something to be admired, and that
26:19
Speaker 1: is something to be celebrated. I'm gonna second you on that.
26:22
Speaker 1: She's so sweet, so beautiful, and I just can't believe
26:25
Speaker 1: how many times she's like shocked that a man will
26:28
Speaker 1: will treat her the way that Peter has been treating her.
26:30
Speaker 1: It's just it's really sad. I'm like, girl, come on,
26:35
Speaker 1: know you're worth that's it. No, you're worth. That's a shirt.
26:39
Speaker 1: Maybe that's our next almost famous shirt is No, you're
26:41
Speaker 1: Worth's cute. Yeah, yeah, almost famous. No, you're worth Uh.
26:46
Speaker 1: Then we move into the group date. I mean there's
26:47
Speaker 1: a lot that kind of happens in between. We're gonna
26:49
Speaker 1: package all the Laias stuff up in one conversation here
26:52
Speaker 1: at the end. Should we start to get hints from Alaia?
26:55
Speaker 1: But the group date has Kira, Sarah, Tammy, Kelly Shy
27:00
Speaker 1: and Sydney and a Laya on it. The clue is
27:03
Speaker 1: I love surprises. I hope you do too. Here's the thing.
27:08
Speaker 1: We wake up or the girls wake up in the morning,
27:10
Speaker 1: and I guess we wake up in the morning with
27:12
Speaker 1: him watching the show to Demi not Lovado is back
27:16
Speaker 1: with Champagne and Killer. She's waking the girls up for
27:19
Speaker 1: this date. Demmi has had multiple reappearances in the last
27:24
Speaker 1: two seasons on this show. Ashley, Why I mean, is
27:30
Speaker 1: Demmy being set up to take over Chris Harrison? No,
27:33
Speaker 1: we all know that's your position. If I don't know,
27:38
Speaker 1: Demmi does great. She was crushing it and we I've
27:41
Speaker 1: never remembered a contestant being brought back as many times
27:44
Speaker 1: they brought her Dimmi back. Yeah, Demi is just shameless.
27:47
Speaker 1: She just says everything that no one else well, and
27:52
Speaker 1: she just brings a lot of energy to an episode.
27:55
Speaker 1: So I think, like, if they want like a lighthearted, fun,
28:00
Speaker 1: you know, be a bitch type feel, that's who they're
28:04
Speaker 1: going to call in, you know. And they went into
28:06
Speaker 1: a pillow fight. It was supposed to be playful, and
28:08
Speaker 1: it was also supposed to be like, I'm gonna beat
28:10
Speaker 1: you up, and it ended up being people beating themselves up.
28:14
Speaker 1: There's a gift out there going around of one of
28:17
Speaker 1: the girls I think it was Sarah Ce getting her
28:19
Speaker 1: head rocked by a pillow. We're watching it at here
28:23
Speaker 1: in Florida, and I was watching my family and Jessica
28:26
Speaker 1: and we were all like, this seems intense. There was
28:30
Speaker 1: also this like weird level where at some point I
28:34
Speaker 1: forget who said it. Maybe it was um Kelly, I
28:38
Speaker 1: forget her name. At this point, she says, nobody wants
28:40
Speaker 1: to see their attorney dressed in lingerie having a pillow fight.
28:45
Speaker 1: Do you I mean, do you agree? Are these moments
28:47
Speaker 1: you've been on the show before? Are these moments that
28:50
Speaker 1: you start to feel uncomfortable or do you think you
28:53
Speaker 1: just run into it saying Hey, whatever happens happens. I
28:56
Speaker 1: feel uncomforable. I mean that I felt for her act
29:00
Speaker 1: because she does have a very powerful law firm in Chicago.
29:04
Speaker 1: I've heard that like that family does quite well, and
29:09
Speaker 1: she's one of the more down to earth, serious girls.
29:12
Speaker 1: I really like Kelly. She's so easy to watch, so
29:16
Speaker 1: confident in herself. But I can see not being super
29:21
Speaker 1: cool with being in your enjoy in a pillow fight.
29:23
Speaker 1: But I think you know it's one of those things
29:26
Speaker 1: you're not gonna fight it. You're on the Bachelor. What
29:28
Speaker 1: do you expect? You know when you sign up you're
29:30
Speaker 1: gonna have to do stuff like that. You're gonna to
29:32
Speaker 1: do something, uh that that feels a little uncomfortable. Well,
29:36
Speaker 1: this was an intense group date, all ding it up
29:39
Speaker 1: um to a really really competitive engine ending where Aliah
29:45
Speaker 1: wins the pillow fight and wins time with Peter. But
29:50
Speaker 1: as we know if you've watched the episode Alias, time
29:55
Speaker 1: on the show does not end well. Actually, here's my
30:02
Speaker 1: question for you, after watching this group date, after seeing
30:06
Speaker 1: how it plays out, seeing the chaos that ensues around it,
30:11
Speaker 1: and then seeing Sydney in a sense call a laya
30:15
Speaker 1: out at the cocktail portion of the night, is this
30:20
Speaker 1: I mean, what I have in my notes here is
30:22
Speaker 1: have these girls not learned their lessons? But yet this
30:24
Speaker 1: time it worked where Sydney obviously kind of I guess one,
30:28
Speaker 1: is this something that will just continue to happen? Why
30:31
Speaker 1: do girls continue to do this and what and why
30:34
Speaker 1: do girls do this thinking that this is the right
30:36
Speaker 1: move for their relationship with Peter well as somebody who's
30:40
Speaker 1: definitely guilty of it during my time, I'm just the
30:44
Speaker 1: kind of person who can't hold back, Like if somebody,
30:46
Speaker 1: if I think that somebody is fake and somebody is
30:49
Speaker 1: just acting completely different in front of the love interests
30:55
Speaker 1: and they are without the love interest in their presence,
30:59
Speaker 1: I've good. I have like I'm compelled to say something
31:02
Speaker 1: and it's so bad and it's kind of well, it's
31:05
Speaker 1: not so bad. It's actually it's not so bad. It's
31:07
Speaker 1: something that I wish I could have more control over,
31:10
Speaker 1: but I don't. And maybe Sydney's the same. Um, it's
31:14
Speaker 1: just like a compulsion to kind of like take their
31:19
Speaker 1: blinders off, like you really just want them to see
31:22
Speaker 1: the person the way that you're you're seeing them, and
31:25
Speaker 1: you truly don't trust the person you're talking smack on um.
31:29
Speaker 1: I think that you're right. It's probably never to the
31:34
Speaker 1: benefit of the relationship between you and the lead. However,
31:39
Speaker 1: in this case it was an exception to the rule.
31:41
Speaker 1: For sure. Peter handled us completely differently than so many
31:44
Speaker 1: other leads have in the past. Most of them get
31:47
Speaker 1: turned off when you know, you come to them with
31:50
Speaker 1: drama about somebody else or disliking somebody else. But Peter
31:54
Speaker 1: really saw it as Sydney looking out for him, which
31:58
Speaker 1: is a nice way of looking at it. I have
32:01
Speaker 1: some thoughts further on me on the topic. I don't
32:05
Speaker 1: like the way that he called Sydney out for it
32:08
Speaker 1: in front of the whole group. If you wanted to
32:10
Speaker 1: even pull both girls aside, that would have been fine.
32:14
Speaker 1: And then I also don't even think he should have
32:16
Speaker 1: eliminated her in the end. But we'll get to that
32:18
Speaker 1: a little bit. What do you think. Well, yeah, So,
32:21
Speaker 1: to summarize this episode, at this point, Victoria p gets
32:23
Speaker 1: the rows. She stays with Peter after the one on one,
32:26
Speaker 1: the group day starts up and is one of those
32:31
Speaker 1: first couple of week group dates. You know, they always
32:33
Speaker 1: try to get creative. It's always something weird. This time
32:35
Speaker 1: it was a pillow fight uh in lingerie, all ending
32:39
Speaker 1: up with the Leah winning and then that the cocktail party. Uh.
32:44
Speaker 1: That night we sit here now with the leg and
32:47
Speaker 1: call out by Sydney for being fake. We have this
32:50
Speaker 1: really weird passive aggressive conversation that we watch between Sydney
32:54
Speaker 1: and Leah, where Sydney is asking do you feel like
32:57
Speaker 1: you have to put on a show for the mass is?
33:00
Speaker 1: Do you feel like because you're pageant history you always
33:02
Speaker 1: have to say the right things? And I actually in
33:04
Speaker 1: this part that now I would typically right now, my
33:08
Speaker 1: guard goes up and I go, Okay, let me watch
33:11
Speaker 1: for who I'm in favor of this moment right sideOr La,
33:15
Speaker 1: and I'm watching this, I'm going even if Leia is fake,
33:19
Speaker 1: I have to give her the benefit of doubt for
33:21
Speaker 1: admitting it. She's not lying. She's saying, Hey, it's just
33:23
Speaker 1: something I've been trained to do. Just like sometimes when
33:27
Speaker 1: we get in front of a camera and we've been
33:29
Speaker 1: through PR training, or anybody say, you're working for your company,
33:34
Speaker 1: you have to give a presentation. All of a sudden,
33:36
Speaker 1: there's a switch that gets turned on and you turn
33:38
Speaker 1: something on like you do act a little different. You
33:41
Speaker 1: cover up some things. Maybe you aren't as Lucy goosey,
33:44
Speaker 1: and you say things a little more respectful or appropriately
33:48
Speaker 1: in those moments, just based on the situation you're in.
33:51
Speaker 1: Alia didn't shy away from that, and I had to
33:53
Speaker 1: give her respect to say, hey, yeah, even though you
33:56
Speaker 1: do are admitting that you put on a face in
33:59
Speaker 1: front of the map, you aren't lying that you don't
34:03
Speaker 1: love that about yourself. Yeah, she's definitely very polished. She's
34:06
Speaker 1: very image conscious, and that's something that yes, has always
34:11
Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way watching the show, being part
34:14
Speaker 1: of the show. That's just not my cup of tea.
34:16
Speaker 1: She's not going to be my friend. But even though
34:18
Speaker 1: she's not gonna be my friend and I'm more of
34:20
Speaker 1: the Sydney in the situation she is, the fact that
34:25
Speaker 1: he eliminated her based on hearsay and just the fact
34:28
Speaker 1: that she's a little bit more put together than the
34:30
Speaker 1: other ones are is just I thought it was kind
34:33
Speaker 1: of ridiculous, especially since he wasn't like she wasn't taking
34:37
Speaker 1: somebody else's spot. In the rose ceremony, we see Chris
34:42
Speaker 1: Harrison takeaway a rose because he truly didn't want to
34:45
Speaker 1: give the other girls a rose, so it wasn't like
34:48
Speaker 1: she was taking anyone else's spot. He should have kept
34:50
Speaker 1: her around for another week at least so he could
34:54
Speaker 1: really see for himself if there was an overbearing facade
34:58
Speaker 1: to get to know her more. Because even when Victoria
35:01
Speaker 1: p said, because I mean, yeah, we're getting a little
35:03
Speaker 1: out of ourselves here. But um, at the rose ceremony,
35:07
Speaker 1: the cocktail party, the pool party, whatever, he pulls Victoria
35:10
Speaker 1: P side to talk about Aliah and she goes, yeah,
35:14
Speaker 1: I knew her before, and she told me not to
35:17
Speaker 1: tell the producers that I knew her before. And I
35:19
Speaker 1: actually think that's not a red flag at all. And
35:22
Speaker 1: Alia's excuse for it was perfect. It was I thought
35:25
Speaker 1: that if we it was known that we knew each other,
35:29
Speaker 1: that there was a higher chance of us both not
35:32
Speaker 1: getting casted. And I think, totally legit. Do you think
35:35
Speaker 1: that's totally legit? I do. I mean, if I was,
35:39
Speaker 1: Peter would not have gotten rid of Alia. So here's
35:42
Speaker 1: my like what I think happened. I wonder if Peter
35:44
Speaker 1: just Peter just wasn't that into a Leia at some
35:47
Speaker 1: point during this week and he knew he had to
35:49
Speaker 1: get like all of this, like hearsay and chaos had
35:53
Speaker 1: gotten so much inside of his head that he was
35:55
Speaker 1: kind of over it, and he just said, I'm done,
35:56
Speaker 1: Like I just need to get rid of the situation
35:58
Speaker 1: because it's not She's not the one for me, Like
36:00
Speaker 1: I know there's somebody here that I'm gonna be with
36:02
Speaker 1: more than a land. Yes, I might want her run
36:04
Speaker 1: for a few more weeks because she's interesting, intriguing to me,
36:08
Speaker 1: but she's not the one for me. So I'm just
36:09
Speaker 1: gonna cut it. Cut it off here. But here's my
36:12
Speaker 1: critiques for Peter. And it was the first time I've
36:14
Speaker 1: had major critiques for Peter. I know you probably hated
36:17
Speaker 1: when he called out Sydney. Oh Peter. If Peter's on
36:20
Speaker 1: here right now, I would say, that is the craziest
36:22
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. Why do you call her out
36:25
Speaker 1: in front of the group. Don't do that. That is
36:29
Speaker 1: I've always said what makes a great bachelor's how they
36:31
Speaker 1: handle difficult situations. And I think the one of the
36:34
Speaker 1: worst ways to handle difficult situations is to provide any
36:37
Speaker 1: opportunity to heighten the argument, and I think in front
36:42
Speaker 1: of a group, it only provides an opportunity to kind
36:45
Speaker 1: of heighten the emotions of everybody. It puts everybody on
36:48
Speaker 1: the fence. It makes everybody feel a little awkward, makes
36:51
Speaker 1: everybody a little hesitant. It is not fair. Now pull
36:53
Speaker 1: them aside together, pull them up the side, one on one,
36:56
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do, but never never kind of
37:01
Speaker 1: walk into conflict and confronted in front of the group. Peter,
37:08
Speaker 1: that is your first big mistakest I still think you're great,
37:10
Speaker 1: You're gonna be great, but that is the first big
37:13
Speaker 1: mistake that I think. It was super awkward to watch
37:15
Speaker 1: and just not smart. Yeah, we see that. Can we
37:19
Speaker 1: see that? La comes back and I don't know if
37:22
Speaker 1: it's next week's episode, but in the coming season, And um,
37:26
Speaker 1: it looks this is my me putting together the puzzle pieces.
37:30
Speaker 1: It looks as if she comes in during the middle
37:34
Speaker 1: of a group date, and then while she and Peter
37:36
Speaker 1: are away talking, the other girls get up from the
37:40
Speaker 1: couches and they're like over it done, and then he's
37:43
Speaker 1: left at a group date that has been taken away
37:48
Speaker 1: from him. Muh huh. Well, I got a bunch of
37:52
Speaker 1: tweets um this week's saying. I can't wait to hear
37:56
Speaker 1: Ben talking about how much self describing happened on this episode,
37:59
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to talk about it because every
38:01
Speaker 1: time I do, all of you little trolls come out
38:05
Speaker 1: and you start going stop. I've describing, but there was
38:08
Speaker 1: a lot of it. It didn't make me happy, and
38:10
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy it any more than I did two
38:11
Speaker 1: years ago or last year. If why I actually have
38:15
Speaker 1: a question for you now that I've gotten that off
38:18
Speaker 1: my chest because I had to talk about it. It
38:20
Speaker 1: was ridiculous how many people were describing themselves. Um, but anyways,
38:24
Speaker 1: why are pool parties never parties? I hate the pool parties?
38:28
Speaker 1: If you guys remember why they have them, I don't know.
38:31
Speaker 1: It's week three every single season. Now it's predictable. It
38:35
Speaker 1: was week three. I'm my season. Would you remember if
38:37
Speaker 1: it was a week here in your season? We never
38:39
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever had one. Really. Oh, I
38:41
Speaker 1: hated mine. I don't know if you guys remember not
38:43
Speaker 1: to talk about myself, but I could not stand the
38:47
Speaker 1: fact that I couldn't do my car Dashian makeup that night.
38:51
Speaker 1: I had a look that I planned for that night,
38:53
Speaker 1: the outfit, the makeup, and then they're like pool party
38:57
Speaker 1: and I was like, are you kidding me, you guys.
38:59
Speaker 1: I thought I had all day to chill, all day
39:02
Speaker 1: to get myself put together, and now you're gonna just
39:04
Speaker 1: spring this on top of me. The water is too
39:07
Speaker 1: cold to go into. If you guys are familiar, like
39:10
Speaker 1: pool temperatures six five, and I'm assuming it's like, is
39:15
Speaker 1: not a comfortable swimming temperature, and it's like the first
39:20
Speaker 1: week of October, last week of September. It can be
39:23
Speaker 1: hot here, but it's not scorching. People were running the
39:26
Speaker 1: pool because it was too cold. The hot tubs also cold.
39:29
Speaker 1: The hot tub was hot for us, well, hot tub
39:32
Speaker 1: was cold for us. There was no enjoyable like water.
39:36
Speaker 1: Like when they said pool party, I knew exactly well
39:39
Speaker 1: because Tanner was on my season and so Tanner was
39:42
Speaker 1: the expert in all things Bachelor, and so they said
39:44
Speaker 1: pool party. Um, like just for the guys. Caitlin was
39:47
Speaker 1: even invited overs. They're like, jump in the pool, and
39:50
Speaker 1: Tanna's like, something dramatic is gonna happen, something weird is
39:53
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But I don't think we ever ended up
39:55
Speaker 1: having a pool party. I don't remember it. Usually I
39:57
Speaker 1: think the pool party happens. Um. They they do the
40:00
Speaker 1: pool party so that there can be like extended druma
40:03
Speaker 1: on an episode, because I think they last a little
40:05
Speaker 1: bit longer than the nighttime cocktail party. Yeah, it just
40:09
Speaker 1: drags on. It's just weird too, because then like Peter
40:13
Speaker 1: has to just kind of be bouncing from girl to
40:15
Speaker 1: girl as like the other girls kind of like lay
40:17
Speaker 1: at around the pool like they're enjoying themselves. Like this
40:19
Speaker 1: isn't a party. Like if I've ever been invited to
40:21
Speaker 1: a party where a bunch of people cry, complain, yell, scream,
40:25
Speaker 1: and have to watch one dude make out with like
40:27
Speaker 1: that's a terrible party. There's nothing about that that represents
40:30
Speaker 1: party to me. Yeah, and it was very bizarre for me.
40:32
Speaker 1: We actually did get in the water, like there was
40:35
Speaker 1: twenty two girls in the water with Cris souls and
40:38
Speaker 1: it was just weird. We're like all trying to touch
40:41
Speaker 1: him and like he's the only male in the pool.
40:44
Speaker 1: It was like a little bit too Playboy asked for me, Oh,
40:47
Speaker 1: that makes me feel so so much uncomfortable, all sorts
40:51
Speaker 1: of uncomfortability, and now knowing Chris what he had to
40:56
Speaker 1: feel like so weird. So Dolphin laughs so much uncomfortable this. Uh. Well,
41:09
Speaker 1: so the breakdown of this episode is this, La is
41:11
Speaker 1: now gone, uh, Sarah See is now gone, Alexa and
41:17
Speaker 1: Jasmine are all gone. We move on tweek four with
41:21
Speaker 1: a really good group of women. I hope the drama
41:24
Speaker 1: kind of slows down now. Week four and five are
41:26
Speaker 1: always the weeks where we start seeing love stories blossom
41:29
Speaker 1: and we start really investing into some of these characters.
41:31
Speaker 1: So far, I can't say I've invested fully into anybody.
41:33
Speaker 1: I do think Victoria was somebody I appreciated and would
41:37
Speaker 1: love to meet and just learn from as a human,
41:40
Speaker 1: But I think other than that so far, just like
41:43
Speaker 1: most seasons, there's just a lot of drama. There is
41:47
Speaker 1: one line of the whole show that stood out to
41:50
Speaker 1: me at the very end of this episode that really
41:53
Speaker 1: got under my skin and Ashley and listeners, I need
41:55
Speaker 1: you to tell me if I'm crazy or not. But
41:58
Speaker 1: Sydney has a interview and she says this line. She goes,
42:04
Speaker 1: La is gone. I'm never going I'm never going to
42:06
Speaker 1: go back on her on my opinion of someone. She goes,
42:13
Speaker 1: I'm never going to go back on my opinion of someone.
42:16
Speaker 1: So she's pretty much saying she's happy she called a layout, which, hey,
42:20
Speaker 1: I can't blame her for call lay out. She felt
42:21
Speaker 1: like that was right. But I thought that line right.
42:24
Speaker 1: There was a really hard line for me to process
42:27
Speaker 1: that she would never go back on her opinion of somebody,
42:31
Speaker 1: because how many times in my life have I assumed something,
42:35
Speaker 1: have I thought some way about somebody, and then once
42:40
Speaker 1: I got to know their story and who they are,
42:42
Speaker 1: I started to love and appreciate them more. So I
42:45
Speaker 1: thought that right, there was a really wrong comment to make.
42:48
Speaker 1: That's a horrible comment to make. I didn't catch that.
42:50
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because the disclaimer. I put a disclaimer
42:54
Speaker 1: at the beginning of my Cosmo article this week saying, like,
42:57
Speaker 1: to all you girls who are part of the cast
43:00
Speaker 1: right now, it's obviously very hard for me to critique
43:04
Speaker 1: these episodes because it's gonna be all go and we
43:07
Speaker 1: run into each other one day. But the but the
43:09
Speaker 1: main part is that I'm going to run into you
43:11
Speaker 1: one day, and you're gonna know me from critiquing you
43:15
Speaker 1: on the show and only what they aired from the show.
43:19
Speaker 1: There have been so many people that I meet in
43:22
Speaker 1: real life and my opinion on them completely changes, and
43:26
Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned this before. It's not just from
43:28
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, It's even when I was obsessed with American Idol.
43:32
Speaker 1: I used to like completely criticize these people their personalities
43:37
Speaker 1: all on the show, and then I would meet them
43:38
Speaker 1: on the summer tour and some of my least favorites
43:41
Speaker 1: would become my favorites, and some of the people that
43:43
Speaker 1: I really liked in the show would end up being
43:46
Speaker 1: like just okay for me, because you really need to
43:48
Speaker 1: get to know reality stars in person, and you guys
43:52
Speaker 1: need to know that your opinion is most likely to
43:56
Speaker 1: change on them. M hm, I agree, And so I
44:00
Speaker 1: thought that, I mean, hey, that comment could have been
44:02
Speaker 1: taken out of context, but for me, that was one
44:04
Speaker 1: that I just did not appreciate and could not process. Hey,
44:09
Speaker 1: we're gonna go into some listener emails at that time
44:13
Speaker 1: of the year before do let's take another break, will
44:16
Speaker 1: come back with your questions, your thoughts, your concerns, your
44:19
Speaker 1: critiques on this season of The Bachelor before we go
44:32
Speaker 1: into emails. So I'm really excited we're doing We haven't
44:34
Speaker 1: done emails and so long. I just want to bring
44:37
Speaker 1: up something as part of the teaser this week is
44:41
Speaker 1: that Victoria F goes on a one on one I
44:45
Speaker 1: think next week, and she happens to run into one
44:50
Speaker 1: of her ex is on the date, and he happens
44:54
Speaker 1: to be one of the performers. Um, it's what's his name, Chase, right,
45:00
Speaker 1: So Victoria F dated Chris Rice in the past. Of
45:04
Speaker 1: course she gets put on the Chase Rice date and
45:08
Speaker 1: I'm living for the drama that is this, and I
45:12
Speaker 1: feel so much pity for her having to go through it.
45:17
Speaker 1: Her face when she walked around the corner and saw
45:19
Speaker 1: Chaser Ice there was just awful, Like it just felt
45:23
Speaker 1: like her soul had dropped. Can you imagine that may
45:28
Speaker 1: be the craziest one on one that's ever happened. Now.
45:32
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, but Chase your
45:34
Speaker 1: ice head came out publicly and talked about this a
45:37
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Uh. He was at an award show
45:40
Speaker 1: and he had commented on how just like awkward and
45:43
Speaker 1: upset he was that this happened. I wonder if we'll
45:46
Speaker 1: hear from Chase this week following the show, because I
45:49
Speaker 1: bet he felt awkward as well. He was singing to
45:52
Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend who was dancing with another guy. That's
45:54
Speaker 1: not cool. Either Chase or Rice got produced. He got produced.
46:00
Speaker 1: He didn't know. He didn't know that the next girlfriend
46:02
Speaker 1: or a girl that like maybe wasn't even like an
46:05
Speaker 1: official thing, but some girl that he like had hung
46:07
Speaker 1: out before in the past, was going to show up
46:09
Speaker 1: to his date. He was just as shocked as Victoria.
46:13
Speaker 1: Victoria was it really really was. It is definitely gonna
46:19
Speaker 1: be something to watch. It's going to get us all
46:21
Speaker 1: hooked and intrigued. I cannot imagine it ends well, and
46:25
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's anything but awkward. I hope this.
46:29
Speaker 1: I hope they didn't stand out and dance in front
46:31
Speaker 1: of him, as he says song, because if they did that,
46:34
Speaker 1: that would be so awkward, so so awkward. No, I
46:39
Speaker 1: think that they probably end up talking, but maybe I
46:41
Speaker 1: don't know if it's before after the dance. Actually it's
46:45
Speaker 1: jumping the emails here here we got one from Gigi
46:49
Speaker 1: says to producers till the lead of each season to
46:51
Speaker 1: keep certain contestants such as the villain, on the show
46:55
Speaker 1: for a given number of weeks just because they make
46:57
Speaker 1: good TV and cause more drama, even though the lead
47:00
Speaker 1: would rather not give them a rose. Also to producers
47:04
Speaker 1: tell the lead in which order to distribute the roses.
47:07
Speaker 1: I can answer this question. They definitely don't. Yeah, I've
47:11
Speaker 1: been there before and I get this question a lot.
47:15
Speaker 1: I always say this. The producers never told me who
47:17
Speaker 1: to keep, but they always would tell me, hey, you
47:19
Speaker 1: should probably get to know this person more. You don't,
47:22
Speaker 1: especially week one and two, you don't know these women
47:24
Speaker 1: too well, and so that you would They would say, Hey,
47:26
Speaker 1: this person is intriguing. Uh, it's a story you probably
47:30
Speaker 1: want to hear. Keep them around to get to know
47:32
Speaker 1: their story. But if I would say no, no, no,
47:34
Speaker 1: I'm very confident I want to send them home, they
47:36
Speaker 1: would have never fought me on that. That you just
47:38
Speaker 1: would have tried. I mean, they can become your friends,
47:41
Speaker 1: your confidence, and so they're just trying to give you
47:43
Speaker 1: the best advice possible, not only to help everybody uh
47:47
Speaker 1: in the house, uh kind of keep whatever is going
47:50
Speaker 1: on going, but also to help you find the one
47:53
Speaker 1: for you. I never, looking back, felt led astray by
47:57
Speaker 1: the producers. I always feel like they were honest with me.
48:00
Speaker 1: I just had to kind of read the line. Sometimes
48:03
Speaker 1: we saw Peter's producer talk to him. They broke the
48:05
Speaker 1: fourth while yesterday which I love and said, we're like, yeah,
48:09
Speaker 1: why did you send her home? I really don't think
48:12
Speaker 1: that he was that she had encouraged him to send
48:16
Speaker 1: a lay at home. I think she was truly confused
48:19
Speaker 1: why he felt compelled to. Yeah, And I think that's
48:22
Speaker 1: part of it. It's part of their job. Then this
48:24
Speaker 1: producers to react. I mean, Peter gets to do what
48:26
Speaker 1: he wants to do. There's no going back to if
48:29
Speaker 1: he sends him me home unexpectedly. So I do think
48:32
Speaker 1: what you saw there is a very similar conversation that
48:35
Speaker 1: every lead is having after the rose ceremony. So where
48:38
Speaker 1: the producers going, wait, why did you do that? That
48:40
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense? Are you sure you wanted to
48:42
Speaker 1: do that? Uh? And then also to the producers to
48:45
Speaker 1: the lead in which order to st roses. No, I
48:47
Speaker 1: mean there's there's always like different ways ago about it. No,
48:54
Speaker 1: because then you watch sometimes and it's cut and edited
48:58
Speaker 1: uh differently. It's never for it's always just up to
49:01
Speaker 1: the lead to do this whole thing how they want
49:04
Speaker 1: to do it. I just don't always read into it
49:06
Speaker 1: too much. I want to lead give somebody the rose
49:08
Speaker 1: last like, it doesn't always mean that that was the
49:11
Speaker 1: last person on their list, Like, that's not the case,
49:15
Speaker 1: so I don't read in that. Also, sometimes the rose
49:17
Speaker 1: ceremony the way it airs isn't the actual way it
49:20
Speaker 1: went down. For drama a fact, I think we can
49:22
Speaker 1: say that. I need to also say that one time
49:26
Speaker 1: I told Cris souls like early on because the first
49:29
Speaker 1: two rows ceremonies, I got the rose like one of
49:33
Speaker 1: the first three names that were called, and I told him.
49:36
Speaker 1: Of course, week three, I go, hey, I love that
49:39
Speaker 1: you give me the rose from me on I can relax.
49:43
Speaker 1: And then of course of that week going forward, I
49:47
Speaker 1: was second to last or last every other week. Yep,
49:51
Speaker 1: actually you just ruined yourself. He's probably like, He's probably like,
49:56
Speaker 1: I had no clue I was giving you the rose.
49:59
Speaker 1: I know. We've got multiple emails of people hoping that
50:07
Speaker 1: my theory from the beginning of the season is accurate.
50:10
Speaker 1: If you guys need a reminder my theory, it is
50:12
Speaker 1: that that Chris Harrison comes up to Peter saying that
50:15
Speaker 1: like Hannah one dancing with Stars, but she feels as
50:18
Speaker 1: if nothing was complete because you weren't there. So there's
50:21
Speaker 1: lots of people hoping that the theory is true, and
50:25
Speaker 1: this one comes from Kristen. It's a little bit of
50:28
Speaker 1: a spin on my own, it says. My theory is
50:31
Speaker 1: that Hannah contacts the producers on the last day of
50:34
Speaker 1: filming and tells them, I need to try this relationship
50:38
Speaker 1: with you before you get engaged, so please don't get engaged.
50:43
Speaker 1: Hannah explains that she would have been there in person
50:46
Speaker 1: had it not been for her commitment to Dancing with
50:49
Speaker 1: the Stars. Bachelor filming wrapped on November and Dancing with
50:53
Speaker 1: the Stars wrapped on November, so that does um kind
50:58
Speaker 1: of poopoo on my own theory, or that she had
51:01
Speaker 1: one Dancing with the Stars already. She didn't actually win yet,
51:04
Speaker 1: but she was in the finale. Um. Kristin continues to
51:09
Speaker 1: say that I think after that bombshell, Peter begins to
51:12
Speaker 1: date Hannah in real life alongside the final pick from
51:15
Speaker 1: this season. This is also consistent with my theory. She
51:20
Speaker 1: says that there will be no engagement, so he eliminates
51:24
Speaker 1: all the what ifs. Chris Harrison has been teasing that
51:28
Speaker 1: the show isn't really over yet a k Peter is
51:31
Speaker 1: still feeling out these relationships in real life, or at
51:33
Speaker 1: least that's what Kristin believes. That reminds me that, you, guys,
51:40
Speaker 1: I sneezed in the middle of my vows. Remember that
51:43
Speaker 1: Ben wasn't that cute? I definitely remember that, and it
51:47
Speaker 1: was cute. You handled it really well, and I thought
51:50
Speaker 1: you're gonna be sad that that happened. I thought it
51:55
Speaker 1: was kind of cute. And my final note from Kristen
51:58
Speaker 1: is that Peter has been in the most inclusive Bachelor yet.
52:03
Speaker 1: What is she talking about there? I think what she's saying,
52:05
Speaker 1: he's like he's like the one that is like the
52:08
Speaker 1: most decisive, Like he he makes these decisions and he
52:12
Speaker 1: sticks to them. I think that's where that's coming from.
52:15
Speaker 1: Like he's the one that is like the clearest to
52:18
Speaker 1: understand where he's sitting at at all times. I'm imagining,
52:23
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm imagining that this. I mean, people are
52:26
Speaker 1: gonna be Peter fans. Uh. This is all going to
52:29
Speaker 1: be a wild ride. It is crazy how nobody knows
52:32
Speaker 1: how this ends and they're sticking to that, and there
52:34
Speaker 1: hasn't been any rumors spread yet. We're all kind of
52:36
Speaker 1: assuming and thinking through stuff. But I have a feeling
52:42
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make Peter look super, super confident and
52:48
Speaker 1: decisive up until the very last couple of weeks, and
52:50
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, we're gonna san because he's
52:52
Speaker 1: Peter's even hinted at it that it looks a lot
52:53
Speaker 1: like my season did, so he's gonna get really confused
52:56
Speaker 1: at the end, and confusion at the end is never
52:59
Speaker 1: fun for the lead, but really entertaining to watch. Yeah,
53:04
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. It's so cool not to be spoiled free.
53:08
Speaker 1: And you guys, we never seek out spoilers. It's actually
53:13
Speaker 1: y'all that ruined it for us. Sometimes I'll get comments
53:18
Speaker 1: under my Instagram being like, you know it's so and so,
53:22
Speaker 1: or actually, haven't you heard from so and so that
53:25
Speaker 1: it's this, And I'm like, no, I've been trying to
53:28
Speaker 1: prevent hearing that. So it's really cool that this season, um,
53:32
Speaker 1: there's no accidental spoilers for for us. Right, so, so far,
53:36
Speaker 1: here's my grade of Peter Weber. I like to do
53:38
Speaker 1: this every Bachelor season. I think he's doing great. I
53:41
Speaker 1: think he's in the first couple of weeks, which are
53:43
Speaker 1: always the hardest. There's a lot of chaos going around
53:46
Speaker 1: around him at all times. He made a big mistake
53:49
Speaker 1: by confronting Sydney in a leia in front of the
53:51
Speaker 1: other women. But other than that, the guy is thriving
53:56
Speaker 1: in his role as the lead, and I think we're
53:58
Speaker 1: all enjoying watching We're enjoying talking about it here in
54:01
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54:04
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54:22
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54:25
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54:28
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54:31
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