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Lisa and Zazu Share Their Stories of Transformation Inside The Metamorphosis Method™ Certification · Reclaiming Consciousness

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  SPEAKER_00: This work is really what is needed to transform.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so this is the piece that I needed to help my clients transform and get their life back, just like I'm doing.
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  SPEAKER_03: It has been really fun to kind of see how the breath has brought certain either sensations that need to be brought to the surface to be fully felt and then processed fully, both physical or emotional.
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  SPEAKER_03: And always afterwards, like, wow, I had like no idea that was in there.
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  SPEAKER_03: To even like memories that were really suppressed that our bodies were basically like working on the entire time in the background without us like consciously knowing.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I think that has been a beautiful way to kind of like marry all of the things that I find to be really helpful in serving folks.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_02: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breathwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
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  SPEAKER_02: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
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  SPEAKER_02: This podcast is an exploration of how so many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the matrix and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
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  SPEAKER_02: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on this earth.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get ready to go deep.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now let's dive in.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi everyone, welcome back to the show.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm so excited for this week's episode because I have two of the amazing ladies here with me who are getting ready to finish up the Metamorphosis Method certification.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we are going to talk all about how great they are and their experience inside the program and just kind of diving deep into their journey and what they've created and the transformations they've made and their experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, Lisa and Zazu, welcome to the show.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Excited to be here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm so excited to have you guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: I remember when I had this idea, I was like, I should have them on to talk about this.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it could just be like a fun conversation as we really reflect on the last nine months and everything that's happened.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's crazy that it's been nine months already, but it also feels like a really long time at the in the same way.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of weird.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I would love to just start with both of you just introducing yourselves and then also sharing what drew you to joining the certification.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, Zazu, do you want to go first?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I am Dr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Zazu COC.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm a doctor of physical therapy.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's my background.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's actually kind of what led me into the certification is through my own private practice, Phoenix PT, working with folks with pelvic health disorders and chronic pain and things of the body that I just felt like there was a lot of times a block in progress in their own kind of evolution and recovery, that I was like, how do I get deeper in there?
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  SPEAKER_03: There's there's something in there that like we need to get to that is like limited with the tools that I had at that time, in particular with my physical therapy background.
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  SPEAKER_03: But even like as I incorporated, I'm also a Reiki master, so energetic work, I still felt like there was an access point that I was still trying to find.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I came around to breath work no real way.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like it just kind of like fell in my lap, just like how most things that are meant for you do.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I actually feel like I didn't even know too much about you and like the work that you did prior to signing on.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I had this really deep sense of okay, like this is it.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is the thing that's gonna help you get to the deeper component of how to help people transform fully, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like people come to me for physical issues, but I have just found over the last decade that there's always emotional, mental, energetic, like nervous system regulation.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's just deeper things there.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I was excited to kind of come across the certification and I've come to learn my own little inner ding ding dings.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so I just had like a very hard yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I just kind of knew like at that point, like, okay, cool, like this is the next step.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is the next step.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's been, I'm really excited to have this conversation because it has also unlocked things in my own personal evolution.
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  SPEAKER_03: I tend to find, or at least I have found since um opening my business crazy um like four years ago, that my personal evolution goes hand in hand with my like business and like professional evolution.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so it's funny because initially I feel like I came at this like, okay, cool, like this will help take my clients to like the next level of healing.
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  SPEAKER_03: And in the process, of course, like it helped me get to like the next level of like my own healing and my own journey.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so that has just been amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's a little bit about my background and how I kind of got to you and got to the metamorphosis.
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  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for sharing.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna go deeper into the personal evolution and the business evolution too.
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  SPEAKER_02: But so we'll come back to that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then Lisa, what about you?
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, hi, I'm Lisa Marie.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm the founder of Life Purified.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just opened up my practice this year and I'm really excited.
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  SPEAKER_00: This has been actually my missing piece.
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  SPEAKER_00: It came across just through my own journey of chronic illness, being bedbound, losing career, basically.
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  SPEAKER_00: What a mess.
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  SPEAKER_00: But finding my way back, uh, I actually became an FDN practitioner.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I help people like you can run labs and do like the detoxes and different treatments to help you get well.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I just knew there was just something.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, there's just something missing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was something missing on my personal journey, and I knew something missing that people needed more.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was weird.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like Zazu said, randomly, I came across Elise on social media, literally laying in bed one night because I'm always researching and trying to find ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: And boom, there she was.
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  SPEAKER_00: And all of a sudden, and it was just like a connection.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like, okay, this just feels right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I reached out, connected with her.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was really worried at the time because still on my healing journey, I was worried about, you know, how much the coursework was going to be because not price, but how much work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because with healing, right, and energy levels, you're concerned.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just loved how gentle she was.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Have you tried my breath work?
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, No.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nervous system dysregulation so much overstimulated me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when I started working with this breath work, I just, and I'm gonna try not to cry, but it brought me to tears because okay, we're gonna cry.
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  SPEAKER_02: I cry on like every update.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you can just start now.
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  SPEAKER_03: Work us open, Lisa.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, be vulnerable, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, so it was just wonderful because it was the first thing that actually made me yawn and and not overstimulate me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the way she directed it to yourself has just been, and like you said, we can go into that deeper.
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  SPEAKER_00: But basically, yeah, that's how I found it.
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  SPEAKER_00: This was the absolute missing piece that I needed to bring my practice where I wanted to, because I knew that you definitely had to go deeper.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just the protocols and different things are absolutely wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this work is really what is needed to transform.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so this is the piece that I needed to help my clients transform and get their life back, just like I'm doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really excited.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my God.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that so much.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I know I feel like it's like a miracle when everyone finds me that's supposed to find me, because this work is it's not for the faint of heart.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nope, it's not for, it's not for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think it should be for everyone, but it takes a lot of courage and it takes a lot of willingness and dedication, not only to be a practitioner, but just to do the work, you know?
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  SPEAKER_02: And every time I have somebody new sign on for like the membership, or even yesterday after having a call with a first call with a private client, and I have these moments, I just want to acknowledge this person for like being willing to go there.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_02: Because even though my whole intention is to make this as simple and efficient as possible, you know, it still requires a level of courage and a level of like willingness to acknowledge things that you haven't let yourself acknowledge.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it is, it's a deep process.
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  SPEAKER_02: But like you said, it is the missing piece because I think a lot of times the reason why people don't get the results that they really want is because they're not acknowledging really where these things originated, you know, and that's the whole point of this.
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  SPEAKER_02: So with that in mind, Zazu, I'd love to go back to you and maybe share a little bit about, you know, your personal growth within all of this, which I know isn't the reason necessarily why everyone comes into this, but it's going to be a byproduct of it in so many ways.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's just natural.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then also for people who've come in who haven't done the metamorphosis yet.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's some people have and some people haven't when they come in.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So and it's like you have to go through that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you kind of don't have a choice, you're kind of thrown into the fire.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, what were some of the biggest personal transformations for you or aha's?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was me.
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  SPEAKER_03: So when yeah, it was like freshy, fresh on pretty much like all of your content and everything.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so just like stepping in to the metamorphosis certification.
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  SPEAKER_03: So then going through the metamorphosis program like at the same time, but especially in the beginning in reflection, I cannot believe that it's been nine months.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's insane.
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  SPEAKER_03: And whenever I hear nine months, I think of like a baby being born.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um but the first half really of those nine months, I felt was really like ultra personal work.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that, like you said, it's not for the faint of heart, but I am like, that's my jam.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, that's just like my life in general, but very specifically for me, like on my personal journey, on my recent personal journey, opening up my business, I think really opened me up to being able to reflect and see certain patterns that I was still running and where I had just like potential growth and growing into myself more authentically.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so, like I had already been like kind of like deep in the trenches that way, and many challenges into that process in particular.
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  SPEAKER_03: And when the metamorphosis came in, I was at a point where in that personal journey that was like stirred by business.
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  SPEAKER_03: Then I think shortly after my grandmother, who was basically one of my primary caretakers growing up and in my life, very important person, was transitioning out of this life.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that in and of itself just deepened the work and opened me up in a way that I previously was not connected to.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so then I feel like coming then into the metamorphosis shortly after her passing, I was just in this like soft, mushy place of vulnerability that I hadn't yet been able to access, I think, in my life.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then going through like each of the modules, like the mother wound and the father wound and the siblings and and all of that, and a lot of work personally that I had done in my lifetime, I would say, I was just like, whoa, I'm getting new information that I would never have like put together outside of going through like that metamorphosis process.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, like for me, for example, one of like the biggest aha's, and it was like in a few different ways, but one of them was just like the father wound in particular.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I came in being like, Oh, I've got a lot of work to do around the mother wound.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, we've got let's uh roll our sleeves up because we got some elbow grease to put in here, in addition to like all the work that I've done, you know, in the past personally.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I had done a lot of work like with my father in particular, and him not being around basically for most of my life, and just like I remember listening to the breath work, not even going through it, but like listening to the audio of it, and like certain things just like hit, and I was like, that's where I get that from.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, what?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, how did I never put that together?
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  SPEAKER_03: And then later, when I had some more time, I think either later that week or the next week, actually doing like the breath work session, like for it and getting these like flashback memories of like big points, basically like one big point in my life, like where that relationship completely changed, and how I have always remembered it consciously throughout my life, like the story I've attached to it, which was actually positive, and being able to connect with like that version of me who needed me to connect with her and was still there like 34 years, well, we'll say 30 years later.
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  SPEAKER_03: So those were like the initial one-two punches that came in like hot, like right off the bat.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, whoa, like very unexpected.
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  SPEAKER_03: There wasn't any um recognizable pattern that I could see I was like reproducing in my own life in relation to that, and um coming in and being like, Oh yeah, mother wound for sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: And don't get me wrong, there was definitely stuff there too, but um surprising in like so many ways, but also just coming in at a point in my personal evolution where I was vulnerable enough to I think be able to get into deeper layers than I think I was just ready to do the work and ready to get to work, and uh there was plenty of work, and I'm sure there still is.
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  SPEAKER_03: So we just keep it moving, keep it going.
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  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, that was my experience with it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so with the certification, it was very cool experiencing that in my body and in my life, and then being able to speak from experience with it when working and applying to the current clients that I had at that time and using the tools from the metamorphosis certification in particular and helping them, but also giving me another perspective into like my own personal experience.
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  SPEAKER_03: That makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, totally no, and I mean that's why we have to do the work ourselves in order to be able to do it with other people.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then every time you hit a new layer with yourself, it's like then you're able to take someone else to that level.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so that's why it's like so important.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I think people always say that I thought I was done with this, or I thought I like, you know, had reconciled, you know, everything with my dad or whatever.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh just wait till you talk to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so thank you for sharing all of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think there's just so many things, like, and I'm sure we can come back to it too, because I know sometimes after you do all of that work too, sometimes you even forget a lot of the things that like used to be a thing that now aren't.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I have a joke with one of my friends where it's like, if you forget it, then it means like you really did let it go.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like we always will have these talks because we help each other.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, remember that thing that we cleared?
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, I don't remember.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, yes, see, it's gone.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, so sometimes like there'll be things that occur to you later on too where you're like, oh yeah, that happened too, because it's so all encompassing, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's cool, like you're talking about do the work alongside working with clients because then it informs what you're doing and it allows you to take people to a deeper layer.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for sharing that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what about you, Lisa, from the personal growth side?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this was a beautiful piece, quite a journey for sure, but I think this is critical to your program for sure, of going through it yourself.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because basically from start to finish, it was going from victim mode to victor mode.
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  SPEAKER_00: And just realizing that yeah, just from you know, the beginning and doing, like Zazu said, you know, the mother wound was such a big one for me, of course, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's pretty much a big one for everybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the father wound, sibling, had them all, but taking the time to go through those, and I really tried to add depth to it as well, like triggers, different things that came up with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But without that experience and that journey, I don't think I could help people because I hadn't gone through it myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it really was like just the realization when you start, you know, doing the breath work and the things that come up, and then you have those realizations.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, well, this is just like an old pattern.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just kind of picked up their stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not really mine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you can realize that, it's so wonderful because then you can start to separate from it and you can let it go and realize these are just old patterns, you know.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then it was also good because I went to a depth of trying to find compassion for the other person and just where they were and where they were coming from.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then you realize we just had a big chaotic house.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there was just a lot of dysfunction, no secure connection, nobody.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: And it was kind of sad.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: I actually felt bad at some point.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: After going through a lot of the wounds, I started to have more compassion and say, you know, it's kind of sad.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: I keep wanting to cry today.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's just like talking about this too.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like it brings up.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's emotional because it's like so deep.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's having compassion, but also an excitement at the same time that I get the opportunity to do this.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: And they didn't.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: And they didn't even know.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't have these tools.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is just such a valuable tool.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: And being able to bring it up, recognize it, and switch, like I said, from that victim.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I just felt my whole life like, oh, this happened to me.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, this, this.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then of course you had to shove everything down, right?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because when I grew up, it was you're not allowed to feel your emotions.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, everybody else, somebody else has it worse, you know.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: So it was like, oh, okay, I'm not allowed to feel.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so going through the metamorphosis was like, wait, I'm allowed to feel, I'm allowed to let these emotions out.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I actually had the honor of working with Elise one-on-one as well, in addition, which was really needed because I felt like that just took me to a deeper level and get me where I needed to go and help recognize these patterns.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then even some of the old beliefs.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, oh my gosh, just comes down to these.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is how I'm seeing the world through this lens.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: And when you can kind of start to separate yourself from it, be curious about it, and just realize it's not really personal, it's not really about you, it's just their bag of crap.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: And we took it on and we started creating beliefs about ourselves, but with Without the metamorphosis, there's no way I could have done that.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that has absolutely allowed me to not only go deeper at myself, but be able to see things in other people, be able to help them.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: I know a few clients I've worked with, and I was just amazed that they're like, oh my gosh, you've given me answers I haven't had for years.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: And you're like, okay, I guess just from like my experience, and it was absolutely wonderful, but it really is.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Without that experience, I don't think I could help people at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for me, it was it was everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was such the big piece for me for my healing, for my personal growth.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love where I'm going now.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: I love that I walk, get up every day and walk in this world, that I'm a victor and not a victim anymore.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love that.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad I found you and this program because it it truly was not even just the missing piece for my practice, but the missing piece for myself.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: And like you said, everybody needs to do this.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: I wish everybody would.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's so, you know, you like, this is what everybody needs.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: This is what changed the world.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: But you get around people.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I actually just had a friend who we kind of separated because I was growing, she was not, and you see relationships just fall away, but it's okay because you're like, all right, this is making room for new, new good stuff.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: And if people could just realize that, you know, you're shedding the old stuff that's holding you back and making you feel icky every day, and you're making room for that wonderful new stuff, that new energy that comes in and just makes your life amazing.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: And if people just realize that, yeah, it's some work and yes, it's deep work, but if you do it, the other side's amazing.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: It is so true.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: The other side is amazing.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think that sometimes or a lot of time, the idea or the fear of seeing what's underneath the surface is enough to stop people.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: But I think a lot of people, and I'm sure you guys have seen too with people you work with, I think that certain people, and at least what I see too, you just get to the point where you're like, all right, fuck this.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: It can't be worse than how I'm feeling now.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like people are like just overcome with anxiety or just feel so like stuck, I just need to come out on the other side.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I think the beauty of this is like it's simple.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's not always easy, but it's simple.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that that can be really helpful for people.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: So to kind of bring it to the piece around the actual work with clients, I'd love to just go into around like a couple of things.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: So how you integrate this into what you're doing, and also how you plan to integrate it into what you're doing, and then also just how it's affected the way you are as a practitioner, right?
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: Your confidence or your process.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think originally as I was going through the certification, since I already had clients coming to me with physical ailments, but generally in the world of pelvic health, PT, there's always an emotional component to it.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_03: I just started layering in, you know, the breath work on top of the other work that we were doing with the physical body.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's how I initially like started to layer it in.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_03: And I still will do that now because I like to meet people where they're at.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_03: And so most of the people where they're at when they come to me is that they have physical discomfort.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: And so that is where we start, and in in language and a context in which they can understand and connect to, and then we start to go deeper with the breath work, and I almost let like the breath work do the work for me.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um with every person, because every person has a different experience, right?
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: Just like we all have different physical experiences, like we all have personal different experiences, like the breath work that is really what I have found, even within myself, within the same person or within the same client, like from session to session, like will be a different experience because like what is needed is different at each point.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_03: It has been really fun to kind of see how the breath has brought certain either sensations that need to be brought to the surface to be fully felt and then processed fully, both physical or emotional, and always afterwards, like wow, I had like no idea that was in there.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, to even like memories that were really suppressed that our bodies were basically like working on the entire time in the background without us like consciously knowing.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: But I think that has been a beautiful way to kind of like marry all of the things that I find to be really helpful in serving folks.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm excited to move forward utilizing the breath work more specifically, like with again, like my own personal evolution.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_03: This is like the flower that just dated for nine months that is now here.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um, is working more like specifically with folks like with their divine feminine wounds and their wombs and womb healing and all of the emotion and trauma and things that we hold and like that like such sacred space that we have.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: So for me, I had been kind of preparing myself for a pregnancy.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_03: And so that this like was the last stop, or at least the most recent stop, on that evolution and the challenges of my own fertility and being able to conceive really allowed me the space and the ability to go to the depth of the womb and divine feminine and like the deeper connection and the deeper healing that was really necessary for me to conceive and for me to conceive my baby, but also like conceive like the next version of how I show up in the world and how I'm able to help people, and so it has been nuts, so funny.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: I'm looking outside and I see like a ladybug.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: Anyways, like it's been really beautiful, but being able to help people, so I've seen people for using the breath work to connect in like with the womb and like they're a divine feminine, and the energy or the emotions or the trauma that they're still holding in that space, and being able to access that and hold the energy, hold the space for them to heal, but also hold the space for them to go through their like rage, sacred rage and grief, and actually also pleasure.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, I think a lot of times it's easier for us to access like anger, I'm pissed at you, or like this is so sad, those types of energetic throughways.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_03: But there are so many things and so many people and women out there who are disconnected from pleasure and like joy and their worthiness to receive it and to live it and to feel it, I have seen be a large block, um, both in just kind of like in general, in our own personal evolutions and journeys and our experiences, but especially in like the conception pregnancy, postpartum work and space that I'm in.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's been a really kind of like beautiful winding road, kind of like allowing the breath to really access like this kind of deeper level.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: So that's where this nine-month-old baby has conceived itself too.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I just want to ask if you don't mind sharing, because I know you shared a little bit about the journey that you went with the ancestral healing, with the breath work, and then also how that kind of led you to conceive your baby, which I know you said it, but like just to be clear, she's pregnant.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: I am pregnant.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I love when that happens during a program like this because I feel like it's just like so magical.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I know it was something you wanted when you started the program.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then can you just talk a little bit about kind of that deeper healing that led you to conceive, but then also like conceive of this new direction that you're going, which is so cool?
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's like nuts, it's crazy.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because I remember thinking like initially, like the program started in February, but I think I came across it either in January or like late December, which is also when my husband and I like looked at each other and we were like, Do you want to have a baby?
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like, is this is we're we're gonna do this now?
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, after being married for almost a decade, um, and and a whole journey before, you know, in itself.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: But I wasn't sure.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, oh, should I be doing this right now?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like if I am gonna enter into this process of like trying to conceive.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: And so I guess for me, one of the things that I intuitively knew, and then I think especially with the deepening of my just like intuition and emotional vulnerability, especially like with my grandmother's transition out of this life, it opened me up to really seeing like, wow, I really want to be intentional about looking at what else I can heal within me before I bring a life like into this body.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_03: And so that process, I feel like, was started.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: Like I had that thought and that intention for like years, I would say.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, it always comes to a head when you're like, all right, well, like let's try, you know.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and so I think that with the breath work, it allowed me to see things on a level, like again, unlock like certain things that I feel like it's like when you play a video game and you've you have like a secret code or something, like whatever it is, and you like skip a 10 levels because you like pass bound like the secret level or whatever, and you just like went like, oh, okay, cool.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_03: I just like had to skip all of that, and I just went straight to the next whatever, the 10th level.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like that is what happened.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then especially with like my maternal line and healing in my ancestral maternal line, and actually being able to see, so kind of pulling from like what Lisa had said, being able to see, like the breath work literally showed me visually is what I got.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: And it goes further, but from what I could see was my great-grandmother and the trauma and the wounds that she had that she processed, but that she passed on to my grandmother, the same, that she passed on to my mother, the same, that she passed on to me, and where my healing, not target, but like where I came to heal that line, and in what particular way, and in what particular torch, like being passed on, and not only that, but then being able to actually connect with them all like on the same plane, all of us together, is like so beautiful.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: Like I still like gets me like remembering that particular download in that particular session, because really, like, you know, in Spanish, I'm half Puerto Rican and half Basque, which is from the north of Spain.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_03: So it was like my Puerto Rican familial, like maternal line.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: And they said to me, like, in you, we are all here and we are all healing.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_03: And it was just like, oh my God, like, you know, you know these things, but like to experience that is just like on such a deeper level, is just like it helps you, you know, was part of like me healing that, and also me kind of like being able to see all of the work that everyone had done and was able to do in the line, and um like be proud of them and have compassion for them and know that we are all imperfect and we are all doing like the best that we can with what we have, and having compassion for them also allowed me to have compassion for myself on a deeper level than I had, I think, been able to get to prior.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: That was just so powerful to me.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: That was one of like the really like peak moments, and obviously, like it's a journey, it's not like an end point, but I think that for me was like such a beautiful encompassing moment of like the work that I had intentionally been trying to do.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_03: It was just a beautiful like reassurance and affirmation and like a keep going, you're on the right path, and and also I think release of some pressure on myself, you know, that like we all do the best that we can, and that every little soul that comes in here also comes in here with like something to heal, something to learn, something to do.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_03: And so being like, this is what I came here for, this little one is like coming here for, you know, like in in their own kind of way, and so yeah, so it was really like that experience, and then through other serendipitous type of situations around that time, like coming across and working more specifically with that type of energy, and specifically like within being held within the womb.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: And that's really like what I was doing, so kind of like without the language, without the words, and through that process, finding and really I feel like it's like a congealing of the last really like decade of my life, which I feel like has been in preparation for bringing another soul into this world, and actually like creating a book that focuses on pleasure and connecting with your fertile body, connecting with your womb energy, like yourself, like your divine feminine and your yourself on all of the different levels, but making sure it's through the lens of pleasure and growth and connectedness.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_03: I think that conceiving pregnancy and postpartum a lot of times comes with really deep healing and like heavy lifts emotionally and a lot of times like physically they show up.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_03: And so I just felt like there's so much out there information, content, but even just like beliefs, the way society looks at women and birthing and all the things around kind of the divine feminine at every stage, right?
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's just one stage of life that we need more people that are here to like hold the space for that kind of sacred healing and walking through life knowing like you are everything.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, that's kind of how things went.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for sharing all of that, and that's amazing.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: And it's um, I get it, and I feel like it is obviously what you're meant to do in the world, and you got to like do it for yourself, and now you can do it with other people, and that's incredible.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: So, thank you.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm so excited to see where that goes.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I want to jump to Lisa now because Lisa, I want to hear from you just as far as like your experience with implementing this with clients and just also like how you feel in general about doing it and what you see happening moving forward.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm more in the beta stage of my program and helping people.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm more kind of learning as I go and figuring that out.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: But being that I found this as my missing piece, I feel like it's the first thing that I need to do with people and what I am doing with people because it is, I try to take things down really simple.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: Cause especially if people have chronic illness, you need it like third grade level because it's it's hard to understand when you have a lot of brain fog and all those physical symptoms happening that it's like, okay, I don't want to read something really long or go through all this, just how can you tell me what's going on?
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so I try to break it down to people and say, okay, we're either in fear or we're in safety.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you're in fear, that's a conflict between your mind and body.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you have that conflict, there are biological changes happening, and there's where your dysfunction starts.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: And then, of course, you know, we're made to go in and out of that as a human, right?
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: You go in that fight, flight, go back out, you're in rest and digest, and you're good.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: But the people that stay in it, right, in our society today, and how everybody functions, busy moms, busy life, taking on too much, it's overwhelm.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then the body just cannot handle that because you're not giving it a chance to go back into that safe feeling.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: And this is where the breath work comes in beautifully because that's where a lot of it's coming from.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: It is the old negative patterns, it is those old belief systems that we're seeing the world through.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: We're creating, actually creating our own stress.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: I remember when I found that one out, I'm like, oh, wait, what?
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, unintentionally, of course.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_00: So anybody listen to this, you're not doing it on purpose to yourself.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: Have give yourself grace.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: But it is.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: It was literally, you know, I kind of made myself sick, not on purpose, but just unknowingly from the patterns I had and being in fear.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know how to be in safety.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know what that felt like until I started doing through the metamorphosis and creating that safety in my body.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that was a big thing, is everybody kept telling me, oh, you know, just tell yourself you're safe.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: And Elise was the first person that said to me, Well, you don't really know it.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know what it feels like.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: I remember that.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, well, how are you supposed to know what safety is?
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: You've never felt it before.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, there was the aha.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, oh my gosh, that's it.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was, you know, realizing that you had to have that compassion for yourself and be like, okay, well, we're starting from scratch.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: You're just a scared little girl stuck in there, and you need to help her through that and reparent her.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so I really think that's the key of how this piece is, I think the biggest piece actually.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: And what I find is that some clients actually don't really need that much of the protocols and stuff later.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because when you resolve, you know, that conflict and that fear and you find safety within yourself, you start to kind of just heal on your own.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: You don't really need much.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the beauty that I found in this that this is the biggest piece that I think people need and where I start.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: So having them go into that and just the just the way they start looking at life, because it's more about changing who they are.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I try to promote is, you know, who do you want to become?
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because obviously this person hasn't been working for you.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: And what kind of changes can you make?
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it takes going back and resolving a lot of that through the breath work, and that brings so much enlightenment to them and awareness.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then they can take that awareness.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's another big piece.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: As soon as they have that awareness, that's the big step.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because once you have that, now you have the choice.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, now I get to choose.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do I want to stay stuck in that fear?
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: Or can I step into something new that makes me feel safe and choose something?
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: Simple things like what people pleasing, right?
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: We neglect ourselves and we look outside of us, and heck, we're not even truthful sometimes because we're so worried about pleasing that other person and what we think they want to hear that we neglect ourselves.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so using this as that piece, like I said, is just the most critical one that is going to give them.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: The results that they are looking for, and not just for healing, but also as a person, right?
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: Things start opening up in your life.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like for me, that's what opened up for me was being able and being more comfortable with okay, I'm all right with today, being on camera, being seen, being heard, saying what I want, being my authentic self.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: And without the breath work, uh yeah, and going on that journey, right?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: We stay stuck and we're just not able to move forward.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: So this piece is definitely what helps them get to that next level in all aspects of their life, every which way.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: You can take any piece of your life where you're having an issue, and this is going to help you through that.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I want to ask both of you, but I'll start with you, Lisa.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to ask you too about your experience with the exchanges and just any like practice sessions that you did, and just kind of like what you learned about yourself and what you were capable of through those sessions.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: So the sessions were absolutely wonderful.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody in the program was so caring and gentle.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_00: And then even working outside of that, there was some difference because the few people that I worked with outside, which I had a good combination, but some people didn't allow themselves to be vulnerable and open up or just let loose.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so I learned so much more from the exchanges with our partners because they were.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: They were able to do that, they were able to give me that.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: And what that taught me was how I could provide space better for other people.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: And there it is again, comes the fear, but losing that fear of I'm not good enough.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm not good enough to do this.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: And these wonderful ladies help me through that.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: They help me understand that you are good enough and you can do this.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's really just comes down to trusting yourself.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: So part of that personal level, and then actually learning from others because I did have an experience with someone who a bit more judgmental, who came from a different breathwork background.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I just remember feeling so wonderful.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm confident in what I do.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: I know this is good.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trusting myself now.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was really great because having the different experiences of, okay, here's someone who's a little hesitant, right?
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: Not trusting themselves, step in.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: Then the exchanges in the program where you can feel totally open, you can get that experience that takes you to the next level you need to be to be this practitioner.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then actually working with other people who were so open to it.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then that was the icing on the cake for me.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: It was having that experience with someone who was so open and just ready for it all.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: It just lit me up inside, you know.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: So having all of those different experiences just within the exchanges that we did really, I feel gave me so much experience.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel very prepared, ready to go, and just really excited about getting people in and helping them to their next level.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: And also I just feel like your confidence is totally like skyrocketed, actually.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, because in the beginning, you were like, I don't know if I can do this.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_02: And then like it's now it's like so different.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's amazing.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: It is, it is.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: And and one of the greatest parts I loved is how you allowed me to develop myself.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, a lot of courses, I've taken so many certifications and college and everything, and everything is do it this way.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_00: You have to do it this way, and it has to be A, B, C.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: And you were always very laid back.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: And no, just let yourself develop.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember having fear of that at first, like, oh, wait, how do I do that?
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then once I was able to let go of that fear and say, wait, she's right.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_00: I just need to trust myself.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: And when I started doing that, it was like, oh my gosh.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I really want to thank you for that because that's probably my best learning experience.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have to be the certain way for you.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, you allowed me to develop into myself and who I'm gonna be.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: And that is, I'm just so grateful for that.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that makes me so happy.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: And that is like my whole thing with all of this is like, I don't want you to just replicate me.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's weird.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like I want you to take everything I'm teaching you and make it your own and make it like your own process, your own modality, like your own thing, because that's what people are really going to get so much out of, is like you being you.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's one of the biggest things with this is like, I'm not teaching you how to like, okay, you have to do it this way.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I'm teaching you all of these tools and concepts and ways to do things, but then you get to take that and like integrate it into who you are and what you do just to be able to deepen what it is that you do from your lens.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I love that.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for saying that.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then Zazu, I'd love to know for you too, your experience with the exchanges and the practice sessions.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I could echo definitely like what Lisa was saying as well.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_03: And for me, I feel like the exchanges going through the metamorphosis for the first time and through like the pre-recorded material was like powerful.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_03: But then when we did the exchanges, it was just like on another level.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_03: And so I think it really clarified a little bit to me, like coming in, being like all of it is good, and there is like such potency to having somebody with you holding the space for you and tuning into you, like you're actively connected with this person, and we did all of our exchanges via Zoom.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_03: So um, I've also had the privilege of doing breathwork sessions in person with people.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_03: So I think for me, it showed me that both in person but specifically, I was a bit unsure how things were gonna go via Zoom in terms of the exchanges, but it was like phenomenal.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was high level potency, which I just was surprised by.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're gonna exchange and and like okay.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_02: Exchanges are everything.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like people don't realize.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, okay, okay, cool.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like gonna be good.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_03: We get to practice, but it's like so much more than practicing, you know.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that yeah, it was just like really nourishing.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_03: It was just like really nourishing.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_03: So it provided an opportunity to yes, like practice and feel like you're getting your first day jitters out um as you're like trying to use the tools and go through, like, you know, find your own flow, um, which I thought was fun to do for sure.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: And each person kind of bringing out they need a little bit something different.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm gonna show up for them in whatever way that they kind of need versus somebody else.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_03: So I thought that was really was really cool.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, to definitely echo what Lisa was saying in terms of you really emphasizing growing into like your authentic process with it.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_03: And while some things like might really vibe with you and you know, hit, there might be other things that either don't, or that you actually get your own intuitive messages that like, oh, for you, like you're actually like more potent this way.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: And I think it provided opportunities to be able to play with that in a safe space to be able to do that and play with that, but I think also grow more confident, more well-rooted in your own ability to trust your intuition and trust the what you're getting, you know, like what you're picking up on, yeah, and reading it, you know, like trusting yourself essentially, but trusting what you're picking up on that may be coming through a little bit of a different process than you're used to.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: So the exchanges, it's so funny.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like it's not a secret, it's like plain, like you know, this you're doing this, like as you're going in there, but and our bi-weekly calls were great and lots of potency and good stuff there as well.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_03: The exchanges were really like I don't know, I feel like they really move the needle forward in really big ways, which was a surprise, like a surprise to me.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: I always say that, but like you don't really know till you do it.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_02: But I I always say, like, my first breath worker training, they had us exchanging the first weekend.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it would be like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and like Friday night we come and then Saturday afternoon we're doing exchanges.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember being like, what am I supposed to do?
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm just like gonna sit here.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I was like, what the hell?
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_02: But but it just like makes you realize so quickly, like, oh, I can do this.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_02: Not only can I do this, but like I can trust that I have my own way of doing this.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_02: That's so important to me.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you guys for sharing all of this.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I know we have to wrap up in a minute here, but I think I just want to ask both of you to wrap up just to say if you can share like what you would say to anyone who's thinking about joining the program, and then also in that same share, just let us know where people can find you and where they can connect with you, and if there's anything else you want to share.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: Anyone is thinking of joining, don't hesitate.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_00: You won't be sorry.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: Your life will change in amazing ways in all aspects for your personal life, for your business life.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: And you really can't go wrong with this program.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: It is gonna give you everything you need.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: For me, for my business, Purified, Life Purified by You.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_00: Lifepurified.com is my website.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still in the process of adding a breathwork page to that.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_00: And then I also have a freebie below that people can go to and it's called the five-minute energy shift, so they can work with that.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, and Zazu.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_03: So I guess first thing would be anybody considering doing the metamorphosis certification.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like if you're ready to transform, just go ahead and just sign up because if you're not ready to transform, don't sign up.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: If you're not ready to experience life in a whole nother level, then this may not be for you, but I would argue, like I think we said initially on like the the first few minutes of the call, it's like everybody should have some essence of this like in their life.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I do believe that even if it is buried under there, like we all are are kind of like striving to do this type of work.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_03: And it's really just about finding like where are you and who can meet you where you are.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_03: And this program in particular is like kind of no matter where you are, you will get met wherever you are.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_03: You just have to have the intention of knowing like you're gonna move through a lot of things, and that's exciting.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_03: And it's also work.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_03: And it's funny, I meant to mention this earlier.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: So I tell people all the time like you gotta do work one way or another.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's work to stay stuck and in a place that you, you know, if you're being honest, you don't want to be, whether that be in life, in business, in your relationships, in whatever it may be, it's work to be there, to just exist there.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_03: Or it's also work to work through that and then get to you know, the other side and get through the other side, but really just like show up in your life in a different way, in a different energy.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_03: So that actually no matter what comes at you, you are just totally transformed and totally different.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm saying that even from my own experience is going through like deep grief and difficult things, and having been able to make that shift prior to doesn't make things less hard, but it makes moving through them makes you be able to see like the beauty within it and and your own personal evolution throughout it.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, if you're ready to um do that, then uh go ahead and sign up.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um but um yeah, and uh oh yeah, so where can people find me?
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_03: So people can find me on my website, www.phoenixpt.info, or they can find me on social dr underscore zazu underscore C O C.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_03: Underscore DPC.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm also adding like uh more breathwork type components to my website, but I do have a uh womb healing, just like five minute little breathwork energy download that people can certainly reach out to me either on my socials or through my website, and uh I'm happy to send them.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yay! Well, thank you so much for being here.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go cry now.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's so emotional.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm just I'm so grateful for you and for everything you've shared and just for being on this journey with me.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just celebrating all of your transformation and just where you're going.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I'm just so excited for you.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you for being here.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_02: I know everyone's gonna love this, and I'm sending you so much love.
• 59:06
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• 59:07
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• 59:08
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• 59:09
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• 59:42
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