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The crime at this Alabama Mayor's house will make you sick - MrBallen · Crime and Horror

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  Speaker 1: One evening in August of two thousand, a city council
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  Speaker 1: candidate stood behind a podium at a high school in
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  Speaker 1: small town, Alabama. He was speaking about why he'd entered
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  Speaker 1: the race in the first place, and he said it
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  Speaker 1: was because he wanted a platform to discuss a very
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  Speaker 1: important issue, and that issue was the unsolved murder of
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  Speaker 1: a local school district employee. And then, right there in
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  Speaker 1: front of all the news cameras and microphones, this candidate
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  Speaker 1: said he knew who committed that crime because it had
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  Speaker 1: been revealed to him in a dream. But before we
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  Speaker 1: today's story. On the morning of August fourth, nineteen ninety eight,
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  Speaker 1: a forty nine year old woman named Charlotte Waites rushed
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  Speaker 1: around her kitchen in Lynette, Alabama. She reached past her husband, Barry,
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  Speaker 1: who was washing the dishes at the sink, and she
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  Speaker 1: grabbed a coffee mug from the cupboard. It was a
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday morning and they were both getting ready for busy
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  Speaker 1: days at work. Charlotte was a school administrator and Barry
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  Speaker 1: was the acting mayor of the small town of Lynette,
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  Speaker 1: a very tight knit community of about nine thousand residents.
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  Speaker 1: And as Barry left the sink to go grab his
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  Speaker 1: briefcase from the dining room, Charlotte, who was pourn or
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  Speaker 1: sell some coffee, reminded him that she had a hair
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  Speaker 1: appointment later that morning, and also that she'd be home
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  Speaker 1: later than usual because she had a meeting with her
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  Speaker 1: attorneys that afternoon. So Charlotte was, unfortunately in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of a legal battle with her cousin Wayne over the
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  Speaker 1: inheritance from.
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  Speaker 3: Her late uncle's will.
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  Speaker 1: The uncle had left a lot of valuable land to Charlotte,
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  Speaker 1: but Wayne thought that he deserved some of that land too,
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  Speaker 1: so basically he was contesting the will, and today was
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  Speaker 1: the day that Charlotte, Wayne, and their attorneys were going
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  Speaker 1: to meet and attempt to.
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  Speaker 2: Hash it out.
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  Speaker 1: Barry asked Charlotte if she had decided what she was
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  Speaker 1: going to say at this meeting, and Charlotte shook her
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  Speaker 1: head and said no, and said she was still kind
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  Speaker 1: of thinking it over.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: She knew she didn't want to just give up the land,
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  Speaker 1: but she also knew that she didn't necessarily want a
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  Speaker 1: risk tearing her whole family apart over money. Barry walked
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  Speaker 1: over to her and put a hand on her shoulder
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  Speaker 1: and reassured her that whatever happened, the family would get
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  Speaker 1: through it. Then he gave her a kiss in the
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  Speaker 1: cheek and he left for work. Once he was out
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  Speaker 1: the door, Charlotte left the kitchen and went upstairs and
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  Speaker 1: knocked on the bedroom door of her seventeen year old daughter, Kara.
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  Speaker 1: And as soon as she did this, Charlotte hurt a
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  Speaker 1: groan from inside the room. So Charlotte opened the door
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  Speaker 1: up up and she found Kara curled up in bed,
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  Speaker 1: and Kara was looking very tired and very pale. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, Charlotte knew this was not just a teenager
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  Speaker 1: who didn't want to like, go to school or something.
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  Speaker 1: The reason that Kara looked the way she did, and
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  Speaker 1: missounding the way she did is because Kara was pregnant
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  Speaker 1: and she was dealing with pretty obvious morning sickness. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte was not thrilled about her seventeen year old daughter
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  Speaker 1: being pregnant, but more than that, she was especially not
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  Speaker 1: thrilled because she absolutely hated Kara's boyfriend, Dave Reid. Dave
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  Speaker 1: drank and got into trouble with the law, and he
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  Speaker 1: just was not the kind of guy Charlotte wanted her
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  Speaker 1: daughter around. At one point, before Kara was pregnant, Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: and Barry had forbid her from seeing Dave. They said,
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  Speaker 1: you cannot date him, but in secret, the two had
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  Speaker 1: continued to see each other. And now Kara was pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: and so Charlotte really couldn't help but feel deeply disappointed
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  Speaker 1: in her daughter. But she also knew her daughter was
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  Speaker 1: going to need a lot of support from her, not
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  Speaker 1: just to finish high school, but also to to be
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  Speaker 1: a teen mom, and so for right now, Charlotte was
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  Speaker 1: just trying to keep the peace. So with that in mind,
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte stepped into the bedroom and asked Kara how she
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  Speaker 1: was feeling, and Cara just kind of shrugged and said
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  Speaker 1: she was okay, just a little nauseous. Charlotte was sympathetic
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  Speaker 1: and nodded along and kind of helped straighten up her
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  Speaker 1: room for a second. And then she reminded Kara that
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  Speaker 1: her older sister, Heather, was coming home from college that night,
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  Speaker 1: and so it would be nice if they all had
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  Speaker 1: dinner together as a family. And Kara said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she did have a babysitting gig for basically the whole day,
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  Speaker 1: but she promised she would make it home for dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte was pleased and told cars she would see her
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  Speaker 1: later that night, and then she said she had to
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  Speaker 1: get to work, so Charlotte left the bedroom, went downstairs,
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  Speaker 1: grabbed her purse, and then out the door. She headed
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  Speaker 1: to the garage to go to her car. Later that
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  Speaker 1: same morning, around eleven thirty am, Charlotte drove back down
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  Speaker 1: her quiet residential street toward her house. She lived in
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  Speaker 1: a respectable, upper middle class neighborhood where basically all the
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  Speaker 1: neighbors seemed to know each other, and historically crime had
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  Speaker 1: been very low, although recently there had been a string
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  Speaker 1: of robberies in the area which had some people on edge,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, for the most part, Charlotte and her
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  Speaker 1: family felt safe in their home. Charlotte was having a
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  Speaker 1: pretty hectic day. She'd had a very busy morning at work,
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  Speaker 1: and then she'd gone to the salon for a haircut,
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  Speaker 1: and pretty soon she had to get back to the
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  Speaker 1: office for a few more hours before her afternoon meeting
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  Speaker 1: with her cousin Wayne and all the lawyers. However, Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: never really liked how her hair looked right after leaving
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  Speaker 1: the salon, so first she wanted to stop by her
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  Speaker 1: house and restyle it herself before heading back to work
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  Speaker 1: and finishing up her day. So she pulled into her
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  Speaker 1: garage and ran inside the house and went straight upstairs,
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  Speaker 1: right to the bathroom, and as she was plugging in
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  Speaker 1: her blow dryer, she heard a door open downstairs, and
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  Speaker 1: the sound surprised her because she thought that Kara was
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  Speaker 1: off at her babysitting Gig and Barry, her husband, usually
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  Speaker 1: didn't come home during his lunch break, so she set
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  Speaker 1: the blow dryer down and went to go see who
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  Speaker 1: it was. A few hours later, around four thirty pm,
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte's twenty one year old daughter, Heather, pulled up to
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  Speaker 1: the house. She just arrived from college, which was located
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  Speaker 1: a few towns away, and she was excited to see
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  Speaker 1: her parents and sister when they all got home from
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  Speaker 1: work that night. But as Heather parked her car in
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  Speaker 1: the driveway, she noticed something odd. She saw the garage
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  Speaker 1: door was open and her mom's car was parked there,
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  Speaker 1: and this surprised her because when she had spoken to
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  Speaker 1: her mom on the phone the day before, Charlotte had
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  Speaker 1: said she probably wouldn't be home until around six, but
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  Speaker 1: Heather didn't think much of it, so she just grabbed
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  Speaker 1: her laundry hamper and a couple of grocery bags filled
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  Speaker 1: with her stuff out of the back seat of the car,
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  Speaker 1: and then as she walked into the garage to make
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  Speaker 1: her way into.
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  Speaker 3: The house, she saw the door that led into the house.
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  Speaker 1: Was actually already open, but just a crack, which was
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  Speaker 1: kind of odd, like there's no reason that door would
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  Speaker 1: be left open, and so, now sensing that maybe something
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  Speaker 1: was off here, Heather walked up and slowly pushed that
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  Speaker 1: door open, and she just called out for her mother
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  Speaker 1: to see what she was doing, but there was no answer,
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  Speaker 1: and so Heather stepped into the house into the kitchen
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  Speaker 1: and set down her hamper and the bags, and then
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  Speaker 1: she began walking around the first floor of the house
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  Speaker 1: to just see where her mom was.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't hear her, she couldn't see her.
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  Speaker 1: She just walking around, and as she rounded the corner
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  Speaker 1: into the foyer, she saw her mom, but her mom
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  Speaker 1: was laying at the foot of the stairs, totally motionless.
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  Speaker 1: Heather immediately ran to her mom and just grabbed her
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  Speaker 1: to see if she was okay. But when she touched
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  Speaker 1: her mom's leg, it was ice cold, and so she
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  Speaker 1: ran into the other room, picked up the phone and
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  Speaker 1: called nine one one. A few minutes later, Lieutenant Richard
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  Speaker 1: Carter of the Lynette Police Department sped down Charlotte's residential
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  Speaker 1: street with his lights flashing and siren blaring. He was
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  Speaker 1: responding to a nine to one one call about a
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  Speaker 1: woman who had been found unresponsive, and he'd been very
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  Speaker 1: surprised when the dispatcher told him whose house this woman
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  Speaker 1: had been found inside of. It was the home of
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  Speaker 1: the town's mayor, Barry Waits. Now, as he pulled up
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  Speaker 1: in front of the home, he saw this young woman
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  Speaker 1: come running out the front door, crying hysterically, and so
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  Speaker 1: Lieutenant Carter he stopped his car. He got out, and
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  Speaker 1: he intercepted the young woman who begged him to come
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  Speaker 1: in and help her mom. And so Carter and this
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  Speaker 1: young woman rushed over to the house, and then he
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  Speaker 1: told her to stay outside while he went in and investigated,
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  Speaker 1: and so she did. She stayed out front and just
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  Speaker 1: quietly wept to herself while Lieutenant Carter stepped through the
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  Speaker 1: front door, and right away, right inside, he saw what
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be a middle aged woman lying on her
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  Speaker 1: back at the bottom of a staircase, and she was
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  Speaker 1: totally motionless. Nearby, the contents of a purse were strewn
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  Speaker 1: all across the floor. Carter immediately knelt down and felt
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  Speaker 1: for a pulse on this woman, but there was nothing,
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  Speaker 1: and so Carter he stood back up and just kind
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  Speaker 1: of assessed the scene. And what he noticed was there
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  Speaker 1: was foam at the corner of this woman's mouth. So
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  Speaker 1: he wondered if maybe she had had a seizure or
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  Speaker 1: some sort of allergic reaction at the top of the
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  Speaker 1: stairs and sort of had lost her balance and maybe
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  Speaker 1: fell down the stairs and the fall had killed her.
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  Speaker 1: But then he also noticed there were death definitely a
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  Speaker 1: few drops of blood on the front of her blouse
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  Speaker 1: and When he looked closer at her face, he noticed
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  Speaker 1: there were pretty obvious scratch marks on her chin and
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  Speaker 1: also a red mark around her neck, and he realized
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  Speaker 1: this woman likely had not just fallen down the stairs.
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  Speaker 1: She'd been attacked, beaten, and potentially strangled. If you're hiring,
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  Speaker 1: Later that day, around five pm, Lieutenant Richard Carter sorted
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  Speaker 1: through a pile of dirty laundry on the floor of
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte Waite's laundry room. For the past half hour, he'd
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  Speaker 1: been scouring the crime scene for clues, and now he
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  Speaker 1: was holding two white towels that were dotted with reddish
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  Speaker 1: brown spots that looked like blood that had just begun
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  Speaker 1: to dry. He called over a forensics officer and told
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  Speaker 1: him to take the towels into evidence. He couldn't be
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  Speaker 1: sure yet that the blood was even Charlotte's, but if
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  Speaker 1: it was, it could be a potential clue. After searching
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  Speaker 1: the whole house, Carter actually had a pretty strong theory
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  Speaker 1: about what had happened to Charlotte. There were no signs
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  Speaker 1: of forced entry, and the TV and other valuables were
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  Speaker 1: still in the home. Charlotte's purse had been dumped out
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  Speaker 1: on the floor just a few feet away from the stairs,
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  Speaker 1: but her cash and her credit cards were still in
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  Speaker 1: her wallet, so Carter did not think this was a
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  Speaker 1: robbery gone wrong. He thought maybe the killer just kind
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  Speaker 1: of dumped out the purse at the end to make
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  Speaker 1: it seem like a robbery, but it was a weak attempt.
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  Speaker 1: This did not seem like a robbery. What this seemed like,
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  Speaker 1: at least to Carter at this point, was that Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: had been intentionally killed by somebody that she knew. But
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  Speaker 1: just then Carter heard commotion by the front door.
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  Speaker 2: And so he went to go see what was going on,
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  Speaker 2: and he.
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  Speaker 1: Saw there was a man out on the doorstep, literally
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  Speaker 1: being physically held back by two forensics officers, and then
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  Speaker 1: after a second Carter recognized who it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: the town's mayor, Barry Waits, the victim's husband. The officers
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  Speaker 1: were trying to keep him outside, but Barry pushed past them,
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  Speaker 1: and right away he saw what they were kind of
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  Speaker 1: keeping him from, which was his wife's body laying there
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  Speaker 1: on the floor, obviously dead. And when Barry saw that,
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  Speaker 1: he just froze and began to hyperventilate. At this point,
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  Speaker 1: Carter didn't try to force Barry back outside. Instead, he
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  Speaker 1: gently grabbed Barry's arm and led him into the next
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  Speaker 1: room and sat him down on the couch and just
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  Speaker 1: tried to get him to calm down, but.
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  Speaker 2: It was like he couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Barry was gasping and like really was struggling to breathe,
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  Speaker 1: and then he actually doubled over and clutched at his chest,
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  Speaker 1: and Carter thought, maybe he's having a heart attack, and
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  Speaker 1: so instead of trying to talk to him, he just
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  Speaker 1: yelled for somebody to call an ambulance. Later that same night,
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  Speaker 1: around eight pm, Lieutenant Carter stepped into the lobby of
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  Speaker 1: the local hospital's emergency department. He showed his badge to
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  Speaker 1: the nurse at the front desk and then asked to
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  Speaker 1: see Barry waits, but the nurse said he would have
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  Speaker 1: to wait because they were still running tests on Barry
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  Speaker 1: and he couldn't have any visitors until they were sure
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  Speaker 1: he was stable. And Carter was pretty disappointed to hear this,
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  Speaker 1: not because he was desperate to get in there and
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  Speaker 1: console the mayor. It was actually because he needed to
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  Speaker 1: talk to the mayor. This is the spouse of a
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  Speaker 1: potential murder victim. He needed to know what Barry knew,
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  Speaker 1: and so he turned to leave, but before he did,
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  Speaker 1: he noticed sitting in the waiting room was Barry and
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte's daughter Heather, who you know, Carter and Heather they
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  Speaker 1: had spoken for a few minutes back at the house
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  Speaker 1: earlier that day, when you know, Heather was the one
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  Speaker 1: who came running out and directed him.
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  Speaker 2: Into the house.
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  Speaker 1: They had spoken a little bit, but Carter thought, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, if I can't talk to Barry, maybe I
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  Speaker 1: can talk to Heather. Maybe she's calm down enough that
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  Speaker 1: we could have a real conversation right now.
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  Speaker 2: And so he walked over to her.
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  Speaker 1: As Carter approached, Heather looked up and definitely recognized who
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  Speaker 1: he was and sort of gave off body language that
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  Speaker 1: it was okay for him to come and sit down,
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  Speaker 1: and so Carter he walked over. He sat down next
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  Speaker 1: to her, and he saw there was actually another girl,
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  Speaker 1: a teenager, who was sitting next to Heather, and Heather
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  Speaker 1: quickly turned and pointed to her and said this was
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  Speaker 1: her younger sister, Kara. Lieutenant Carter nodded and introduced himself
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  Speaker 1: to Kara, and then he asked, both women, you know,
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  Speaker 1: how was.
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  Speaker 2: Their dad doing?
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  Speaker 1: And Heather said that the doctor so far believed he
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  Speaker 1: was not having heart attack, that it was likely a
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  Speaker 1: panic attack, but they were going to monitor him overnight
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  Speaker 1: just to be sure. Both of the girls seemed very upset.
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  Speaker 1: They had tears in their eyes. They both appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be in shock. They hadn't done anything suspicious, really, Carter
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  Speaker 1: knew he couldn't just rule them out as suspects yet,
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  Speaker 1: like he had to really ask them some pointed questions.
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  Speaker 1: So he took out his notebook and as delicately as
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  Speaker 1: he could, he began asking them some questions. So by
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  Speaker 1: this point, Carter's officers had already learned that Charlotte had
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  Speaker 1: left her work around eleven am that morning, and it
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  Speaker 1: was not until about one pm that her coworkers called
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  Speaker 1: her house because she had not come back to work,
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  Speaker 1: and they said there was no answer, and so that
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  Speaker 1: meant the murder had likely taken place sometime between eleven
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  Speaker 1: am and one pm. So with that in mind, Carter
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  Speaker 1: asked Heather and Kara where they'd been that morning and afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: with a focus on eleven to one. Kara told him
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  Speaker 1: she'd been babysitting all day, and Heather said she he'd
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  Speaker 1: been at her school, her college, which was thirty miles
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  Speaker 1: away until around four pm that afternoon, when she had
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  Speaker 1: left to drive to her parents' house.
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  Speaker 2: At some point, Carter.
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  Speaker 1: Asked both of them if they had any idea if
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  Speaker 1: there was someone out there who might have had a
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  Speaker 1: grudge against their mother, or who might have wanted to
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  Speaker 1: hurt their mom, or who might have been happy if
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  Speaker 1: something happened to her, and the girls immediately shook their
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  Speaker 1: head and said absolutely not. There was no one. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: their mom was awesome. Everybody seemed to like her, and
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  Speaker 1: they were a happy, normal family. There was no issues
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  Speaker 1: they knew of. Carter jotted all this down in his notebook,
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  Speaker 1: and his plan was to check out the daughter's alibis
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  Speaker 1: as soon as he got back to the station. The
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  Speaker 1: next day, Lieutenant Carter was at the precinct debriefing with
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  Speaker 1: the other investigators on Charlotte's case. He'd listened to the
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  Speaker 1: local news on the radio while driving to work that morning,
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  Speaker 1: and since Charlotte was the acting mayor's wife, her murder
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  Speaker 1: was all anybody in town could talk about, so Carter
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  Speaker 1: was really feeling a lot of preser to solve this
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  Speaker 1: case quickly. Now by this point, he had already followed
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: up on Heather and Kara's alibis, and they had both
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: checked out. Neither of the daughters could have been home
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: between eleven and one, so Carter had officially ruled them
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: out as suspects. And so now the other officers were
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: going around the room basically updating Carter on what they
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: had done the night before, and Carter was admittedly a
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: little frustrated to hear that after they had questioned Charlotte's
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: neighbors and co workers right after they had gotten to
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the scene, that that had not led.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: To any new suspects.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: And also another point of frustration was the one person
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: who likely would be able to help them the most,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: at least at this point in the investigation, was the
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: acting Mayor, Barry, Charlotte's husband, but he was still in
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the hospital and so was not being allowed to speak
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: to them. But just as Carter and the others were
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: sort of scratching their heads wondering what they were going
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: to do next, the front door of the precinct opened,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: and who walked in but Barry Waits. A few minutes later,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Lieutenant Carter and Barry were sitting in Carter's office. Barry
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: said he had just been released from the hospital and
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: they had determined that his heart was fine and he
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: really had just had a panic attack. So as soon
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: as he was out of the hospital, he'd come right
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: over here to see what he could do to help
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: with the investigation, and so Carter asked Barry to walk
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: him through what he had done the previous day, the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: day Charlotte was killed. Barry said that on top of
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: being the acting mayor, he was also the head of
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the local National Guard armory, and he had been attending
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to business at the armory all day. He did say
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: he left at some point to get a haircut, maybe
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: mid morning, but the barbershop was closed, so he went
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: right back to work, and he had stayed there until
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: around four thirty when he got a panicked phone call
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: from his daughter, Heather, telling him their mom was unresponsive
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: in the house. As Barry spoke, Carter actually primarily was
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: just looking at Barry's hands and arms to see if
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: there were any scratches or cuts or bruises, because the
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: running theory, based on what they saw at the crime scene,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: is that Charlotte put up a fight against her attacker
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: before she was killed, and so presumably there should be
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: wounds of some kind on the attacker and probably on
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: their hands and arms, but as Carter stared at Barry,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: there were no visible injuries at all. And also, I mean,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Barry's story seemed very linear, very simple, and he seemed
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: very earnest about it and eager to help.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, Carter.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Couldn't just jump to conclusions and assume that Barry was
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: telling the truth and that he was not a suspect here.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: But Carter's first impression was that Barry was telling the truth.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: At some point, Carter kind of shifted the conversation and
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: asked Barry if he had any idea about who might
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: have wanted to hurt his wife, and Barry said, yes,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: he did. There were actually two people who would definitely
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: benefit from Charlotte being dead.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: He said.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: The first person was this guy named Dave Reid, who
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: was actually their daughter, Kara's boyfriend. He said that he
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and Charlotte had tried to stop Kara from seeing this
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: guy because he was kind of a bad guy, but
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the teens had kept sneaking around, and eventually Dave had
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: gotten Kara pregnant, and so Barry wondered if maybe Dave
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: had gone over to sort of confront Charlotte to maybe
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: demand to be able to see Kara, and things got
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: out of hand. Carter grabbed a pen and he wrote
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: down Dave's full name. Then he asked about the second
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: person who had been a problem with Charlotte. He explained
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that his wife and her cousin were in the middle
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of this contentious dispute over an inheritance. In fact, he
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: said Charlotte had been scheduled to meet with Wayne and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: their attorneys the same day that she was killed. And
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: when he heard this, Carter sat up in his chair
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: because he thought to himself that the timing here could
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: not be a coincidence. The cousin was suddenly his top suspect.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: The following day, Carter walked into an interrogation room at
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the Lynette Police station and he sat down across the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: table from two people, Wayne Rice, and his attorney. When
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Carter had called Wayne to set up this meeting, Wayne
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: had responded by saying he would not say a word
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: without his lawyer present. And this made Carter pretty suspicious
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: because during this very brief phone call, Carter had never
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: even suggested to Wayne that he was a suspect in
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: his cousin's murder. So when Carter sat down with Wayne
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and his lawyer, he pretty much leaned right in and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: grilled Wayne. He wanted to know what was going on
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: with this inheritance. Wayne said he knew that his contesting
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: their uncle's will had caused a lot of problems within
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the family, but he said that he hadn't wished any
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: harm on Charlotte, and in fact, she'd been his best
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: ally at the time of her death. Carter asked him
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to explain what he meant by that, and Wayne said
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that the last time he spoke to Charlotte, she seemed
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to be in favor of giving him some of the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: land that their uncle had left to her. According to Wayne,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Charlotte had said she was really upset about the family
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: being torn apart over money, and she felt like keeping
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: all the land for herself.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Was just not worth it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And when Carter heard this, he was pretty surprised because
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Barry had made it sound like Charlotte had no intention
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: of giving up the land to Wayne, like that wasn't
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: even an option. So Carter wondered if anything Wayne was
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: saying here was even true. He asked Wayne for his alibi,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and Wayne said he'd literally been at work all day
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: at an aluminum processing plant just outside of town. He
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: said he hadn't even left for lunch, something he typically did,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: like he was at work truly all day, and then
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: he also gave Carter the names of several coworkers who
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: could confirm his whereabouts. Before Carter let Wayne go, he
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: asked him if he could take his fingerprints, and Wayne
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: immediately looked at his attorney, and his attorney kind of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: nodded at him, and so Wayne looked at.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Carter and said okay.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Later that same day, Carter sat down with the other
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: suspect on his list, Kara's.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Boyfriend, Dave.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Dave was very moody and stand offish and just seemed
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: kind of annoyed that he was even there. When Carter
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: asked him if he knew why he'd been called to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the station in the first place, Dave just.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Kind of sighed and said, yeah, I do.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: He'd heard about what happened to Kara's mother, and he knew,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you know, given his contentious relationship with her and her husband,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that of course he was going to be viewed as
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a suspect, which to him was absurd, And so Carter
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: actually just asked Dave point blank about his relationship with
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Kara's parents, and Dave would admit that, yeah, they definitely
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: didn't like him, but Dave insisted he would never hurt
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Charlotte or Bury for that matter, and he hadn't even
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: been in town the day that she was killed. He'd
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: been at work all day at a landscaping job miles away.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Carter asked for the names of some of Dave's coworkers
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: to verify his alibi, and he also asked him to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: provide his fingerprints, to which Dave sort of rolled his
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: eyes and said, you're wasting your time, but he said
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: he would do it just because he wanted to clear
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: his name. A couple of weeks later, in the middle
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: of August, Lieutenant Carter sat at his desk flipping through
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Charlotte's autopsy report, which he had just received from the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: medical examiner, and he realized that Charlotte's murder had been
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: even more brutal than he had thought.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: It turned out the.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Murder weapon had been Charlotte's own blouse. Her killer had
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: grabbed the strings dangling from her neckline and then used
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: them to strangle.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Her to death.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: She'd also received a pretty serious head injury that could
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: have been fatal on its own, and she also had
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a broken wrist. Now this level of violence made hard
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: feel even more sure that this murder had to have
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: been personal, But as he read deeper into the report,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the evidence seemed to paint a different picture. There were
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: three sets of fingerprints found at the crime scene, and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: two of them belonged to Barry and Kara, which was
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: not a surprise because they lived in the house. But
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the third set of prints was actually unidentified and it
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't a match for any of the suspects on Carter's radar,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: including Kara's boyfriend Dave, and Charlotte's cousin Wayne, So at
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: this point, Lieutenant Carter just felt kind of stuck. Also, Barry, Wayne,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and Dave's alibis had all checked out as well, so
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: truly his list of suspects was basically down to zero.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: So if Charlotte had been killed by someone she knew,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: which was the initial running theory, Carter was going to
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: have to dig even harder to find out who it was.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: In October of nineteen ninety eight, so a couple of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: months after Charlotte Waits was killed, Lieutenant Carter walked into
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the Lynnette police precinct right as the death sergeant was
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: hanging up the phone.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: The sergeant stopped Carter and told him they had just
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: gotten yet another.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Call on the Charlotte Waite's tip line, and before the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: sergeant even explained what the caller had said, Carter felt
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: dread building in the pit of his stomach. Ever since
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the police had set up this tip line for information
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: on Charlotte's murder, it had been flooded with calls basically
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: every day. But rather than all these tips helping with
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the case, the tip line had actually just slowed the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: investigation down because Carter and his team had to take
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: time to follow up on every single one of these leads,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: even though most of them were just rumors and conspiracy theories.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: By this point, from all these tips, they'd looked.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Into a young man who lived on the same street
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: as Charlotte and who had a history of robbing houses,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: but he had an airtight alibi. They'd also investigated another
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: local man who'd strangled his girlfriend in a similar way
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: to how Charlotte was attacked, but he also had an alibi.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Carter had even driven all the way to Georgia to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: investigate a tip that a small time criminal had bragged
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: at a party about killing Charlotte, only to find out
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: this small time criminal had an alibi two and that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the tipster had made the whole story up just to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: get him in trouble. Also, in addition to these new
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: suspects having alibis, their prince didn't match the prince found
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: at the crime scene that third set of prints. But
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: sort of adding more confusion to this was an expert
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: told Carter that, actually, it seems like those third prints
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: could belong to a child, and so maybe we're totally
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: unrelated to the murder. And so now as Carter looked
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: over at this death sergeant, it was getting ready to
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: tell him about whatever Collie had just had. You know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Carter just braced for more bad news, because all these
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: tip calls were basically bad news, and when the death
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: sergeant spoke, it was it was more bad news. The
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: sergeant said, this call wasn't even a tip at all.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: A local woman had just called in to.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Complain about the lack of progress.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And as difficult as it was for Carter to hear that, now,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in a addition to the pressure, he was feeling that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: locals were literally spamming the hotline just to complain about
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: him like that was bad. But Carter also understood their
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: frustration because he was actually feeling just as upset as
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: everybody else in town. But after running into nothing but
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: dead ends here, he was out of ideas and he
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: had a feeling in his gut that unless something major
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: changed soon, this case, unfortunately, was going to go cold.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Fast.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Forward about three years to one morning in two thousand
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and one. On this day, Lieutenant Carter was working at
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: his desk when he heard a familiar sound. The Precincts
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: tip line was ringing yet again. After that initial wave
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: of tips on the Charlotte Waite's case, the case had
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: completely stalled out for a couple of years.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: It was basically cold.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Carter had ultimately been reassigned to other cases, and Charlotte's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: family had just sort of been forced to move on
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: without any.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Sort of closure.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Kara had her baby and Heather graduated college and was
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: working a real job, and Barry had also basically moved
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: on with his life. He had gotten remarried and was
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: still very much in politics, and in fact, just the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: previous year he'd run for a term on city council. However,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: during that election cycle, Barry's opponent had publicly accused him
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of killing his wife, Charlotte, and even though he had
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: no actual evidence to support his accusation aside from the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: fact that he had a dream about it, all the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: attention from these accusations had totally reinvigorated the case, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: calls had once again begun flowing to.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: This tip line.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: However, just like before, the vast majority of these tips
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: were just wild theories and gossip. But that particular day,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: when the death sergeant who manned the tip line opened
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: up Carter's office, Carter looked up and saw he was
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: visibly excited, like whatever he had just heard on the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: tip line actually mattered.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And before Carter could even ask him.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Like what'd you hear, the death sergeant said he had
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just spoken to two tipsters who clear had some real
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: information that they wanted to share that was going to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: blow this case wide open. Based on that crucial tip,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: forensic evidence, and witness testimony, this is what police believe
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: happened to Charlotte Waite's on August fourth, nineteen ninety eight,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: around eleven thirty am, the killer pulled up outside of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Charlotte's house and right away recognized Charlotte's car in the garage,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and when they saw it, their heart raced with excitement
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: because they hadn't been sure that she'd even be home,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: but clearly the killer had gotten here right at the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: right time. So they parked at the end of the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: driveway and they walked up into the garage and they
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: walked over to the door that led into the house,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and they tried the handle and found it was unlocked,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: so they opened it up. The killer stepped inside the kitchen,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and right away they heard footsteps on the second floor
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and they knew it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: It had to be Charlotte.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: There was nobody else home, so the killer closed the door.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: They went around to the stairs that led to the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: second floor, and up they went, and right as the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: killer reached the second floor hallway, Charlotte came out of
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the bathroom and saw them, and Charlotte was definitely very
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: surprised to see them standing there, but the killer immediately
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: just asked her a question point blank, and when she
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: answered the question, it was not what the killer wanted
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to hear, and so the killer tried to get her
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to change her mind to answer this question differently, but
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the conversation quickly escalated into a full blown argument, and
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: then the killer just totally lost their temper and hit
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Charlotte across the face. Blood immediately began pouring out of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Charlotte's nose, and kind of stunned, she just kind of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: stepped back and went back into the bathroom to grab
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: a towel to blot her face with it. Now, at
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: this point, the killer knew they had crossed a line,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and so persuading Charlotte at this point to do what
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: they wanted was clearly out of the question, Like this
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: was a no going back moment. So as Charlotte came
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: out of the bathroom with this towel on her face,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: looking totally shaken up, the killer walked up and grabbed
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: her from behind, and they clutched the strings that were
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: hanging from the neckline of her blouse and they pulled
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: them tight around her neck. And so Charlotte began gasping
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: for breath and trying to fight them off, but the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: killer absolutely had her in this choke hold, and then finally,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: when Charlotte had lost enough oxygen that she stopped struggling,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the killer let go of the strings and then kicked
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: her down the staircase. And when the killer saw what
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: they had done. When they saw Charlotte at the base
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of the stairs, obviously motionless, very likely dead, the reality
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of what they had just done it hit them, and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: so in a panic, they grabbed the bloody towel that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Charlotte had dropped, you know, she was using to blot
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: her nose, but she had dropped it on the ground.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: They grabbed that, and they rushed down the stairs and
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: kind of cleaned up the rest of the blood on
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Charlotte's face, and then dumped the towels in the laundry room.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Then they grabbed Charlotte's purse off the table and kind
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: of scattered its contents on the floor near her body,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: hoping the police would think this was a robbery gone wrong.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: And then after that they fled the house, cut back
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: in their car, and hurried back to work at the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: National Guard Armory before anyone even noticed they were gone.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: The killer was Lynette, Alabama's mayor and Charlotte's own husband,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Barry Waits. Barry had secretly gotten into a lot of
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: debt and he needed the full inheritance from Charlotte's uncle
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: to pay it off, and so when Barry went to
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: his own home in the middle of the day and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: basically confronted Charlotte and asked her, what do you plan
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to do at this meeting with Wayne? Are you going
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: to give him some of this inheritance? And she told
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: him that yes, her plan was to settle and split
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the inheritance. Well, when Barry heard that, he snapped and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: he killed his wife, not just because he was mad
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: at her for her decision, but also because he needed
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: more money. He's thinking, Okay, I'm going to get half
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: of this inheritance because she's given the other half to Wayne.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: But if I kill her, I'll get her life insurance
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: policy and then together I'll.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Have enough to pay off my debts.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: However, when the insurance company went to pay out the claim,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: because Barry, early on in the investigation, was clearly a
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: suspect in his wife's murder, the company would not pay
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: him the money. Instead, they paid the insurance money to
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: their daughters. But a couple of years later, Barry still
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: tried to get his hands on that money by tricking
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: his own daughters into signing it over to him.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: But when Heather and Kara realized what he was doing.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: They finally saw their father for what he was, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: so it was the daughters who were the tipsters who
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: broke this case wide open. They told Lieutenant Carter everything
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  Speaker 1: they knew about their dad's very suspicious behavior, along with
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  Speaker 1: his clear financial motives for the murder. They also said
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  Speaker 1: that their father had intimidated them into hiding information from
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  Speaker 1: the police and had even called in fake tips to
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  Speaker 1: redirect attention away from himself. Barry Waits was arrested in
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  Speaker 1: February of two thousand and six, and nine months later
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  Speaker 1: he was found guilty of first degree murder. He was
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  Speaker 1: sentenced to forty years in prison.
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