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S3 27. Derek Gilbert – Pineal Gland, Faith and the Heart · Millennial Mustard Seed

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Welcome back to the show. I'm happy that you guys are here
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with me again for another episode here, on the millennial
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Mustard Seed podcast, we have Derek Gilbert here, guest
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appearance, number two, and this is a great conversation with the
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dive into some interesting topics, like the placebo effect
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and the pineal gland and, you know, talking about the
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condition of the world. And honestly, we both kind of
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have a moment in this episode. You know, like three quarters of
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the way towards the end of the episode.
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I literally am, like, it's hard to explain.
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It wasn't like, deja vu, but I just started to having a moment
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where I felt like I was on The right path.
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And I'm speaking with the right person and my little brain is
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just like being crammed full of information.
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I'd go into overdrive mode and do kind of start stumbling over
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myself a bit. But then we see the best of your
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Gilbert come out on this because literally, we get some humor, we
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get all the facts, all that wealth of information from his
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diligence studies, over all these years.
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And then we get the heart. Of Derek Gilbert.
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So towards the end of this episode, honestly, we both are
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almost choked up and you could just hear it in our voices.
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It's, it's an emotional roller coaster.
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Let's get into the topic that you guys all came here for.
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I'm ready. Let's go.
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We got special guest here on the show and this is your second
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time joining us here on the millennial must see.
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Derek Gilbert it is a pleasure to be speaking with you and It's
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an honor to be back with you Rod.
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Boy, we've had a an interesting experience getting this audio to
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a place where we can be actually be recorded.
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Yeah, it's almost as if we went through a small battle.
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This often happens. We used to find this with the
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late rest is star. It would, it would always be a
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challenge. There'd be something technical
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that would interrupting interview.
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And we noticed this with Gary Stearman, the host of Prophecy
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Watchers, whenever he'd come over to, Sky watch TV to do any
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recording. It's like Gary would suck the
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life out of any battery-powered device.
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Like the little broadcast check packs for the wireless
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microphones little broadcast transmitters for the wireless
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microphone, they'd be fully charged and within like, 15 or
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20 minutes of just totally drained.
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Never happen. Anyone else?
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Just Gary Stearman for some reason.
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Yeah, that's, that's bizarre at you notice like, you know, we're
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talking off air just come in, just go, there's, there's
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something going on. Southeastern Pennsylvania here,
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where it's doing that exact thing.
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It's just every time I go to podcast or connect with
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somebody, when it comes to prayer, the Bible literally
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exposing the works of darkness. It really seems to be like the
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battle manifests through this, dark force attacking the
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equipment, or the Wi-Fi, whatever it can service.
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Find that interesting, there are parts of the country where
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things seem to be more of a battle than elsewhere.
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We're blessed here in the Ozarks and that it seems to be kind of
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a bubble, but even here, the tentacles of the Gods of this
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world and I use that term, G OD, s small G deliberately.
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I believe that they're that they are reaching into even small
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town America. I mean, the Ozarks is about is
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insulated from the the spiritual Forces at work on in America's
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Coast, you know the east and west coast Elites have their own
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ideas of how things should work in here in the Ozarks were
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really insulated from that. I mean, we live in a county and
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this was true back in Illinois before we moved here as well.
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The county we lived in, in Illinois, Coles County, the
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Democratic party, and I'm not saying that Democrats are evil,
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but there are policies supported by the Democratic party at the
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You'll level that are inconsistent with Biblical
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values. They don't even put up
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candidates for most of the political offices.
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In this County or back in Illinois, Coles County a lot of
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places in the middle part of America.
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That's true. When you look at the electoral
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map of the last couple of Elections and who carried Which
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counties, you see these vast swaths of red for the Republican
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candidate and the just these concentrated areas of blue it's
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just that because there are so many more people in those areas.
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The elections were a lot more competitive than they might
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otherwise appear on a map. But even here through things,
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like Title Nine. For example, the the federal
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department of education is imposing on school districts in
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places like Galena, Missouri, wow.
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Things that you wouldn't expect to find in Rural America where
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again the Democratic party which is championing.
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Some of these Progressive. Civ policies, don't even field
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candidates and yet because of the influence of the federal
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government and the influence of federal agencies, like the
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Department of Education, the department of energy and so on,
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they're imposing values and especially through the
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Department, of Education. Because that's where you get
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kids. And if you can get kids before
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they hit the age of 18, you got him pretty much for life.
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There are friends of ours, here in the Ozarks who have pulled
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their kids out of public schools, because yeah, of the
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The agendas coming from the federal government, I would be
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okay at this point in my life with saying, we need to just do
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away with the Federal Department of Education and it bleeds out
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into so many other areas as well.
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I think it's very interesting, they obviously removed the
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Bible, you know, from public schools.
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I think it was 1964 65, but we know that the, the word says,
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the fear of the Lord, is the beginning of wisdom.
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Yeah, and there's definitely a A difference between knowledge and
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wisdom and the world is clear for anybody with eyes to see
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that they are losing the wisdom, at a rate that is hard to
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describe when it comes to the diversity of topics and Trail,
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you know, this the tentacles of all of these things go into so
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many areas. It's hard to keep up with Karen.
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And it's funny because I actually spoke with, with one of
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my local Senators recently. And, you know, This person was
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out in the neighborhood and, you know, just kind of like, you
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know, knocking on doors and talking and trying to get
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reelected and speaking with her, just, for a couple minutes, I
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had mentioned, well, you know, where do you stand on XYZ?
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These topics? You know, I pretty much was very
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blunt and honest and said, hey, I fall in the line of what is
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right, is right? What is wrong, is wrong.
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And I Define, what's right? And wrong.
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By the Bible is the only book that hasn't.
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Exposed. How many years I personally
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wasted sitting in the dark. It's been my it's been my only
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light and it was interesting because after discussing some of
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some of the perspectives that I hold you can just you can tell
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you can tell with people that have the agenda that is fueled
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by the world and the power of the air of the present age that
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we live in versus the, you know, the Eternal truth and we just
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see it show up in so many places.
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But You know the last time that we talked honestly it was you
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had my head spinning. Every time I talk with you I'm
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like oh my goodness, like I just information just flowing and you
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know I wanted to thank you. You've been doing this this
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podcast you since 2005 and a lot of the groundwork that guys like
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you and, you know, Allah and rust is, are you a lot of you
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guys had laid the unpaved? The way for the Next Generation
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to have that, you know, audacity and that platform to kind of you
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know, walk into and start the Journey of just being on ashamed
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for the truth and exposing the darkness.
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And well, you're very you're very gracious.
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It's funny because Sharon and I actually began podcasting
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because he thought it was a way to market the books that we were
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writing and it turned out that looking back on, it is clear,
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the Lord had a start writing so that we would start podcasting
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which led to what we do. Now the partnership with Sky
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watch TV and so and now we're back to writing again.
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So it's sort of come full circle but yeah, yeah, we began began
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writing because we thought it was a way to get people to buy
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our books. So the Lord took that and kind
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of gently curved it in the direction that he wanted us to
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go, his ways are not our ways. So whole bring us will bring us
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to the desires of our heart when we seek the Kingdom, right?
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It's just not always the path we think is is the one we're going
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to take and You know, there's a lot going on right now Derek.
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I know with view from the bunker and the sky watch podcast,
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you're doing updates all the time and covering a lot of these
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topics. Did you hear the rumor of the
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Euphrates River drying up? Well, in credibility to that, it
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is low there. A lot of places in this world
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that are is, it's really bizarre.
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As we're seeing major grain producing areas of the world
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here in the Dates China, both dealing with with severe weather
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here in the US. The Western half of the United
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States is in drought to here in the Ozarks we are maybe coming
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out of drought now because we had a very dry half of June and
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all of July, but the last couple of weeks are, we've been getting
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caught up Texas. Of course, was severely hit by
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drought and they got a whole Summers worth of rain in one
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weekend. The only place on Earth that
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grows a lot of grain where they've had, Add ideal growing
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conditions courses, or Russia and Ukraine.
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And they've only just started shipping grain because of the
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war that's been going on there since the end of February Middle
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East. Of course, very dry.
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And the Euphrates is at very low levels, but I think if we're
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going to read it, we may be trying too hard to read.
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Prophetic significance into that because we read in Revelation 9,
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where you've got the Angels Bound in the river Euphrates.
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And if I remember correctly, Revelation, who's 15?
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I want to look at it. I should have my Bible open in
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front of me where the kings of the East, the river.
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Euphrates dries up so that the kings of the East can come and
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do battle at Armageddon. Essentially, the demonic spirits
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performing Science Center. Yeah, the sixth Angel poured out
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his bowl on the great river Euphrates.
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Its water was dried up. There's a lot to get through
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before we get to the sixth Bowl judgment which is when God is
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pouring out his wrath on the World and since we as Believers
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in Jesus Christ are not appointed unto wrath.
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We're not going to be here when this happens.
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So whether One Believes In A pre-tribulation Rapture or a
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pre-wrath Rapture and I still struggle to get my head around
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the difference between the two, I think it's more semantics than
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anything else but setting that aside regardless pre-trib
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pre-wrath since the bowls are God's Wrath, we're not here.
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If you're a believer in Jesus Christ We are not here.
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So don't panic when you see the Euphrates drying up.
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It is not the sixth Bowl judgment.
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We've got a long way to go before we get there.
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I mean, we haven't seen wormwood, we haven't seen the
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Flaming Mountain hit the see. There's a lot of the bottomless
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pit opens up Tartarus, empties out and the Watchers come back.
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The titans of Greek religion. There's a lot of stuff between
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now and then, so yeah, they're Euphrates, is the water level is
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dropping. In fact, there's a site
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connected to the ancient. Hurry and Kingdom of mitani,
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that is that archaeologists finally have access to, they
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hadn't been able to get into it. For some years I mean they knew
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it was there was just under water.
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So archaeologists are having a field day with that site.
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There's a site in Spain likewise that they're calling it, the
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Spanish Stonehenge. Oh wow, because water levels
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have dropped in certain areas but yeah, just it's let's not
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try to Hard to read, prophetic fulfillment into headlines like
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this, put it into context and when you look at the Book of
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Revelation, there's a long way to go before we get to the sixth
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Bowl. There's so much hype on topics
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and a lot of the reason why I desire to do this podcast is to
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get to the information from sources that are deemed healthy
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from the biblical perspective, right?
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I mean, there's so much information floating around out
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there. A lot of times people get lost
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into YouTube videos, right? And you end up on On some really
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strange stuff, right, right, and drawing back to the Bible and to
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understand what's really going on in this world.
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He's so much. And here's the other thing that
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I think we need to consider as Sharon and I have been digging
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into Revelation and trying to analyze it with the the Divine
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Council worldview. Yeah, the idea that the small G
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gods exist which was the belief of the early church, they
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understood that Zeus was real and Hermes was real.
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Aphrodite was real but they were fallen angels.
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That was the understanding of the Jews of the second temple
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period. Is it?
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They knew that what, the, their neighbors believe, their Pagan
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neighbors was not entirely false.
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They were worshipping the wrong Gods.
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But there are reasons that we find in scripture.
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For example, one of David's Psalms when he writes you know,
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bow down you God's because they knew that God capital G God
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Yahweh. The god of the Bible was the
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Supreme, deity the Creator, who spoke all of the rest of these
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entities into existence. But that doesn't mean that those
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entities contrary to. What most of us Christians have
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been taught, doesn't make them imaginary.
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These are not the imaginary friends of the Canaanites and
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Egyptians and amorites and so forth, they actually existed.
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But they, you know, Paul was clear.
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He said they're worshiping demons, okay?
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Principalities and powers are cons, Thrones dominions.
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There are a lot of different names.
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He gives them, but it was understood by the apostles that
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A church that these entities were real.
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So when we're looking at the Book of Revelation and we see
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things like the fault that the burning Mountain that falls from
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the sky or wormwood, we looking at this thing, you know, that
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that imagery of the burning mountain is one that is not
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unknown, was not unknown during the second temple period.
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When, Enoch, in the book of First Enoch is taken down to the
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netherworld. He sees, I think this is first
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Enoch 21-7. And mountains burning mountains
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and he asks his Angelic guy Dubai.
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Believe it's Gabriel in eunuch who these entities are or what
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these things are. And he says, well, these are
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angels who are being punished like, oh okay, so would there be
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correlation with these stones of fire of Ezekiel 28?
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You know, the rebel and Eden was cast out of Eden where he walked
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amongst the stones of fire. I'm not the first one to think
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of this. This is you know my Kaiser's
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study as Nako Bible naked Bible podcast of Ezekiel 28 pointed
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that out and that was like an eye-opening moment for me.
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But when you go back and you look at Ezekiel and compare it
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to First Enoch, it's clear that they were kind of drawing from
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the same the same. Well of ideas, if you will this
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idea that burning mountains were not necessarily space rocks, but
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supernatural beings Who kept not their first estate, they left
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their proper dwelling and came to commingle with humanity.
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And as such in first Enoch, they're being punished In the
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Netherworld. So that makes me think when
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Jesus is saying, if you have faith the size of a mustard
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seed, you can say, to this mountain be cast down.
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It will be. So, yeah, I think you're
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tracking on the right, the right idea here.
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It's it was well known in ancient Mesopotamia that the
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main epithet of the Creator God of Mesopotamia.
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Enlil. Who in my book?
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The second coming of Saturn, I show the evidence from the
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secular Scholars that enlil was also Dagon was also L of the
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Canaanites. Yeah, was Baal Hammon of the
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Phoenicians Kronos of the Greeks.
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A turn of the Romans, you go back in history was Kumar be of
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the ancient her Ian's and so on. And so on his main epithet was
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great Mountain, his Temple, his Temple at the city of Nipper.
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Which is in the middle of Iraq. His Temple was called Iker which
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means the mountain house or the house of the mountain.
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Interestingly, the word Corrine Sumerian also meant Netherworld
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had a dual meaning so kind of an As Above.
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So Below sort of thing. I mean it did meant literally
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mountain and Netherworld the same word.
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So when you see this this great mountain is, okay.
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Is it mean great mountain? Is it mean great below the great
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underworld, Because by the time Marduk took Over as the chief
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God of Babylon and Mesopotamia which was around the time of
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Saul and David around, 1,100 1,000 BC that was a, when the
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time about the time that this transition was complete, and
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little was no longer the one who was in charge of everything
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because Marduk was. Now the God enlil was demoted to
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the netherworld, and he became one of the judges in the
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Underworld. Well, interestingly, this was
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also the case with Chronos who was overthrown by his son, Zeus
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and thrown down to the netherworld to The to Tartarus
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roof chained up. Same with Saturn, who was
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overthrown by Jupiter? Same within in the ancient
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hurrying religion, Kumar be was overthrown by his son, the storm
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God teshuvah and thrown down to the netherworld same pattern
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over and over and over. But again, it was well known.
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That enlil was the great mountain.
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In fact, the Assyrians, whose Chief deity was named Asher,
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same name of the God, as the name of the country, I mean in
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the Old Testament when you're referring to as Area.
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The same word is used for a Syria, the country and a sure
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their Chief deity, who was also called great Mountain as was
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Dagon by the Philistines and the amorites who worshiped him.
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And then in Zechariah 4, this is I think an interesting verse
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that's been overlooked by most this is Let's see, the prophet
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Zechariah Zechariah for beginning at verse 5, the angel
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who talked with me answered and said, to me, do you not know
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what these are? I said, no, my Lord verse 6.
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Then he said to me, this is the word of the Lord to zerubbabel
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not by might nor by power, but by my spirit, says, the Lord of
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hosts. All right, we're all familiar
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with that verse. The Lord of hosts means.
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Yahweh of armies is what it actually means.
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Verse 7, though. We never read.
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Who are you? Oh, great Mountain. before the
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rubber ballad, you shall become a plane, Most Bible teachers
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will if they touch that verse will say, well it just is a
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rubber Bell was in charge of rebuilding the temple and eat a
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very difficult job. So the great Mountain was the
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obstacle in front of him that he had to overcome.
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Yeah kinda but the Israelites had just come back from 70 years
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in the middle of Mesopotamia where the chief deity the
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Creator. The father of all the gods was
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called the Great Mountain. Do you not think they knew who
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that referred to? And I think to cap this off in
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Ezekiel 1 where he has that famous Should have the wheels
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within wheels at, you know, the Ancient Aliens guys say that.
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Oh yeah, that was it was a UFO. No, that was a throne room
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Vision, the imagery was of a royal Throne.
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When you look at the way, Royal Thrones in ancient Mesopotamia
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were depicted as having wheels on them and living creatures
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built into the throne. I mean, you can see this in the
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Throne of King Tut, you can look this up on Google just, you
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know, Google King Tut Throne. That's what that's what the
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Mesopotamian concept of the cherubim looked like.
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Anyway, zekiel mentions in the very first verse of his book in
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a 30th year in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month.
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Is I was a body among the Exiles by the kivar canal.
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CH E ba are the kivar canal and he mentions this like five other
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times in The Book of Enoch. The vision I had at the first by
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the kivar canal. It's an important detail, which
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is why he keeps bringing it up. Why is it important?
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Because the kivar canal runs right through the city of
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Nipper, right past the Temple of enlil, which is where all the
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gods of Mesopotamia met. Once a year with the great
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Mountain at the mountain house to decree the fate of the land
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for the coming year. In other words, ezekiel's vision
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of the Throne of Yahweh of hosts.
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The Lord of armies was right over the Temple of the chief
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God. Mesopotamia.
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Who's called great Mountain. Wow.
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And the reason I bring all this up is then we got to look back
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and say okay so maybe the mountain in Mesopotamia or in
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the Book of Revelation is dealing with entities, maybe
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these, the Army coming from, the East, the 200 million, the army
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of 200 million. Horseman is a supernatural Army.
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How did they view the visit the river Euphrates in the ancient
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world? Well, was sort of considered a
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boundary a liminal Zone between the land of the living, in the
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Land of the Dead. Yeah, to it and to a degree.
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So was the River Jordan. There's the mountains in Jordan,
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on the east side of the Dead Sea are called the mountains of
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Overeem. ABA are IM, which means
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Travelers mountain of The Travelers.
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Travelers happens to be a term used by the Pagan amorites for
24:27
the spirits of the ref. I aim the dead Kings who were of
24:31
old. In other words, the spirits of
24:32
the Nephilim, the Bible tells us very clearly, the Apostle Paul
24:36
in the New Testament, Says we wrestle not against flesh and
24:39
blood but against principalities Powers rulers and dominions.
24:43
And I think a lot of the time why the world is moving further
24:47
to dropping off the cliff if I can say it that way and why
24:51
Christians are ramping up and we're joining together in the
24:55
agreement of who Christ is his resurrection and exposing the
24:59
darkness is because anybody in the house of the Lord, we can
25:02
feel the tension, different areas, having different
25:05
entities, over the area and And how there's actually people that
25:08
can interpret that they're, you know, they're very sensitive to
25:11
the landscape and in a fun Sinners because these Concepts
25:14
that seem so new. Today were not new as dr.
25:19
Michael heiser's work. Proves that the ancient
25:21
Israelite would have had all of this worldview and their mind
25:25
where they're just aware of the thrones and dominions and a
25:28
different rollers that are depicted through the Greek
25:30
mythology, all the different cultures around the world that
25:33
have etched these things in rock.
25:35
None of that was strange too. Today we have Hollywood that
25:38
entertains the world with. I don't know if I could even say
25:41
a quarter Truth at this point, you know, really good lie has
25:44
just enough truth in it and entertainment to keep you
25:46
engaged. But what I'm getting at here is
25:48
we clearly can see some of this information coming back to the
25:52
body of Christ. Some of these, chasms being
25:54
covered, where you have the Curious mind, like me, a
25:57
millennial who is relentlessly battling and and reaching out to
26:03
guys, like you and saying, hey man break this down for me.
26:06
You so, not to switch gears here too quick, but it feels like
26:11
there's been an increase in Paranormal Activity, the Demonic
26:15
world. We know they are literally
26:17
working day and night. They don't rest, they don't
26:19
sleep. Do you think that CERN may have
26:22
anything to do with escalating, the spiritual environment?
26:27
Do you have any thoughts on CERN?
26:29
They may be trying and the but they're not going to open any
26:33
portals that God doesn't allow absolutely.
26:35
So I think, The there are some who are get really, really
26:42
afraid, really nervous about things like this.
26:44
That are really concerned about it not to your pardon the pun,
26:49
but I don't think we have to worry about anything opening up
26:52
that God doesn't allow. We see in Revelation 9 that the
26:57
abyss, the bottomless pit doesn't open until a key to the
27:01
shaft of the bottomless pit is given to a and a star falling
27:05
from Heaven. That's an angel who's Fallen
27:07
from Heaven. He's given the key who gives it
27:09
to him. He doesn't steal it.
27:11
He doesn't make off with it. God gives it to him because the
27:14
timing has come for God to allow these entities from the abyss to
27:19
torment Humanity for five months.
27:22
This isn't like was at the movie with Sam out.
27:25
Not Sam, Elliott, Sam do. Oh gosh.
27:29
But anyway, I'm thinking to the movie Event Horizon.
27:32
Okay, yeah. Where this, this Ship goes out
27:37
and finds you know another craft that was abandoned.
27:40
It turned out that some other crafted Been to Hell and come
27:42
back and it brought stuff with it that that's not going to
27:45
happen. That's not going to happen.
27:47
CERN might might who knows they might discover some interesting
27:51
things, they might find, you know a way to in their minds
27:56
communicate with entities that are in another dimension but
28:01
Sharon and I were working on a book under the title, the gates
28:03
of hell and we started out thinking.
28:06
Okay, let's write a book about biblical portals.
28:11
Why are certain areas in the Bible?
28:13
So significant, why did Jesus began his ministry in Vachon?
28:19
Which surprised me, really, really discovered this about six
28:22
weeks ago, although again, it's not something we discovered
28:25
other Scholars have put it out there years ago, but it just
28:27
sort of got ignored puzzle pieces together, right?
28:30
Yeah, why was Jesus. Baptized it in John, it's John.
28:35
128 is Bethany. The Jordan, but the Greek is
28:37
Beth Anya, which is probably a transliteration of bought
28:40
Taniya, which is the Greek name for ancient Bashan?
28:43
Why did go, why was John there? Why did Jesus go there and you
28:48
know, the evidence in his he called his first disciples from
28:50
like bethsaida and Capernaum which is north of the Sea of
28:53
Galilee. This idea we have that Bethany
28:56
across the Jordan was somewhere near Jericho is it doesn't fit
29:00
the evidence. It doesn't fit the evidence at
29:02
all. There is no.
29:04
And even in the second and third century, Early church, fathers
29:07
were looking for like origin in the late 2nd Century, I believe
29:11
was looking for Bethany across the Jordan.
29:13
He said, well, no, no, it can't be right because there is no
29:15
Bethenny except for the one on the Mount of Olives and that's
29:19
obviously not across the Jordan. That means east of the Jordan
29:22
River. Yeah.
29:23
But if both Anya is actually just a transliteration of
29:26
Botany, in other words ishan, well that fits with calling
29:31
Philip Peter, John Andrew from north of the Sea of Galilee.
29:37
And when you look at what that region was known for, okay, that
29:41
was the area. That was literally believed by
29:43
the ancient world to be the entrance, to the netherworld.
29:47
It is covered with dolmens which are megalithic funerary
29:49
monuments for the dead. So why are those regions
29:52
important? But as we started developing the
29:54
book, we started thinking, you know, what the actual Gates of
29:57
Hell. The portals are really inside
30:02
each one of us as we give permission to the enemy to
30:06
access us and use us. We can't open anything that God
30:10
doesn't allow, but he gives all of us free will to choose to
30:14
follow him or to disobey as my Kaiser, put it in talking about
30:18
the the the Babylon working, you know, L Ron Hubbard and and Jack
30:27
Parsons creator of the GPL, jet propulsion laboratory.
30:32
Did there there strange sex right out in the desert to try
30:36
to bring forth the Scarlet woman, the, you know, mystery
30:39
Babylon. Mike said, you know, if these
30:44
entities, these principalities and powers that we are warned
30:46
about are so, are so limited that they can only Access our
30:51
time-space domain. When a couple of perverts have
30:53
sex in the desert, then they're pretty lame.
30:57
Like, oh yeah. Okay.
30:59
But getting guys, like, Parson Hubbard and Aleister Crowley,
31:04
and Helena blavatsky, and whoever else ceremonial
31:07
magicians to do these things is essentially they're
31:11
demonstrating their willingness their openness to these
31:14
entities. Come live inside me, take me
31:18
over, give me power. I'm giving you permission those.
31:21
That's the gates of hell right there.
31:22
It's what's inside each one of our hearts.
31:24
Somebody like l.ron Hubbard Jack Parsons.
31:28
They did not tear a rip in the fabric of our time-space,
31:31
Continuum to allow something evil through.
31:33
Okay. Cthulhu is not coming back
31:35
through a rift opened by Jack Parsons but Parsons Hubbard
31:41
clearly were influenced by the dark side.
31:43
These principalities and powers and their Likewise, that's
31:47
those, are the gates of hell. Now, having said that there was
31:50
a reason that Jesus chose specifically to begin his
31:53
mission in bachand, where couple of years later at the foot of
31:58
Mount Hermon in front of The Grotto of pan at caesarea
32:02
Philippi he asked Peter, who do you say that?
32:04
I am. Oh, yes.
32:05
You are the Christ, the son of the Living.
32:06
God, ah, blessed are you Simon bar-jonah?
32:09
This was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven
32:12
and on this rock as he standing in front of a 9200 foot
32:16
Mountain. That was believed to be the like
32:19
the Canaanite version of Mount Olympus I will build my church
32:22
and the Gates of Hell, which is this really big cave right over
32:24
here. The Jordan River comes out of
32:26
will not Prevail against it, he could have done that anywhere
32:29
deck declared his divinity anywhere.
32:31
Why did he choose to do it there?
32:33
He clearly had a reason and then six days later, he climbed a
32:36
very high mountain with Peter. James, and John for the
32:38
Transfiguration, which was again, Mount Hermon the
32:42
Canaanite, Olympus, and he chose that place.
32:45
For a specific reason. So yeah, they're probably places
32:49
on Earth and maybe he was simply making a point to the followers
32:52
of these deities. Because they had been convinced
32:55
through many long centuries that this place was sacred.
32:58
I mean, there are texts like the, the old Babylonian texts of
33:02
the Epic of Gilgamesh which dates back to the time of
33:06
Abraham, you know, 1800 years. Before Jesus was born, they knew
33:10
that Mount Hermon was sacred, was the secret dwelling of the
33:13
Anunnaki. So something about that mountain
33:16
for a long. Long time was known to be sacred
33:20
and Jesus specifically chose that location for his
33:23
declaration. Vanity and his Transfiguration
33:26
but at the end of the day in our world today, where are the gates
33:30
of hell right between, you know, right in the middle of your
33:34
chest, it's your heart, the term that dr.
33:38
Laura brought up on my interview with her which was a Nephilim
33:43
host and I found that to be very peculiar because, you know,
33:46
people like you're saying that you're Jack Parsons or you know,
33:49
Croley the power that they claim to have all this, in my opinion.
33:54
It It's like it spreads the Wildfire of confusion where
33:57
people become enamored with the topic.
33:58
They waste so much time and energy digging into, you know,
34:01
failing defeated armies. Agenda that you know, they're
34:06
missing out on the life giver and it's I had to cover my
34:10
mouth. I didn't laugh too hard into the
34:12
phone here, but when you said, you know, when there's a couple
34:14
of perverts that are going out into the desert and they do some
34:17
ritual to manifest a Gateway for some Minion or some spirits walk
34:22
through its, that's very lame. Yeah.
34:24
Is a defeated Kingdom, there, there's no true power, their
34:27
credit, my Kaiser for that line credit.
34:29
My Kaiser people are spending so much time.
34:32
Waiting through the ocean of confusion and Chaos, a million
34:36
messages in a million signals being sent out from all these
34:39
different camps. You know, they're getting lost
34:42
in everything. But the life Giver I've said
34:45
this on an episode I think it was last year.
34:48
It's funny to me how God has one remedy.
34:51
He has one way and he's all right, you know, he's already
34:54
Resurrected and defeated the enemy but you see, you know,
34:57
Satan and his Fallen buddies there, you know, the whole host,
35:03
literally every trick, that's up their sleeve throwing it at
35:08
Humanity, trying to hinder us from hearing the good news.
35:12
And, you know, just as a simpleton, the guy next door,
35:17
who ask weird questions, that's what my mind does with that
35:19
information. And I think the enemy is
35:22
manipulating so much. That most of us have yet to get
35:26
our head around and to equip ourselves in the armor of God,
35:29
to be able to battle against this stuff.
35:31
Because there's simple scenarios just like the placebo effect
35:36
that shows. Hey, we are wonderfully and
35:38
fearfully created. And I think we're being terribly
35:43
manipulated by the darkness and many ways, but what are your
35:46
thoughts on the pineal gland and the placebo effect of just just
35:50
kind of shoot some thoughts, out me on those two topics quick,
35:53
well, the pineal gland, Produces that that DMT and I don't can't
35:58
won't try to pronounce the long name of the molecule even if I
36:00
could remember it. But in very small amounts, it is
36:04
something that consumed in large amounts through Ayahuasca
36:07
produced by mushrooms. You will see things.
36:12
And there are there's a small industry that's growing up for
36:16
tourists to go to South America with a shaman and drink this
36:20
tea, and be guided in these spirit.
36:24
Jersey Spirit Journeys. I interviewed, dr.
36:27
Rick Strassman, who wrote the book?
36:28
The DMT, or DMT, The Spirit Molecule some years ago.
36:32
And he wrote a follow-up book in which he he theorized that it
36:38
was through DMT that the Hebrew prophets received a Revelations.
36:44
Hmm. Now, maybe this is the physical
36:48
process by which God opens the human mind to the spirit realm
36:52
because what dr. Around and there are some other
36:56
academic papers that I've downloaded just haven't read yet
36:59
that have been done within the last couple of years with
37:01
volunteers, who take DMT and then Report with AC, and a large
37:06
percentage of them in some of these trials.
37:07
The majority of the participants, the volunteers saw
37:10
entities in the spirit realm in in dr.
37:13
Strassman experiment, if I remember correctly, there were
37:18
at least one occasion, possibly a couple where multiple
37:21
Witnesses saw the same entity at the same place.
37:24
Ace now. Now Mass Hallucination is not a
37:27
thing. So they were seeing into the
37:31
spirit realm and reportedly seeing the same entities.
37:36
Mmm, which suggests that. And this is why he wrote his
37:40
follow-up book, which I forgotten the title of it, but
37:45
He suggested that this was not a hallucination.
37:49
These were not hallucinations. They were actually seeing
37:51
entities in the spirit realm. And this is something we needed
37:53
to research further to try to make contact with these
37:56
entities. Forgetting of course, dr.
37:59
Osman was was raised as a Jew, he's now agnostic or at least as
38:03
of the last time I talked to him, I don't know what his
38:05
beliefs are now but if he's arguing that we need to conduct
38:10
experiments to figure out how we can do, what the Hebrew.
38:14
Prophets. Did he is really on the wrong
38:17
track because God made it very clear that we were not to
38:19
contact the spirit realm. We were not to consult with
38:21
mediums or necromancer's. In fact, he specifically equated
38:25
that kind of contact with with the cult of the Dead with
38:30
sacrificing children, The Cult of moloch, who just another
38:33
name, worn by Saturn, Kronos Balaam on and LEL Dagon Etc.
38:37
Molech God summoned, the prophets of old This was not
38:45
something that you could, you don't take Ayahuasca and charge
38:49
into the throne room of God and say, hey Yahweh, what's going
38:52
on, buddy? That's not how it works.
38:55
Many of the people who were taken into this other realm or
38:59
began to perceive entities. In this other realm found that
39:02
these entities were at best ambivalent toward their presence
39:05
and others were openly hostile. They didn't like the fact that
39:09
they were there Josh Peck if you talk with him about his
39:11
experience when he was a new Ager.
39:14
Of astral projecting found that. These entities did not like the
39:18
fact that a human was suddenly roaming around in their domain,
39:23
their Dimension. So dr.
39:25
Strassman, and again, it's been some years since I've spoken to
39:29
him. He may have changed his mind and
39:30
all of his, I don't know. But at the time, this is, you
39:32
know, five, six, seven years ago.
39:34
Last time I spoke with him was was arguing that we needed to
39:39
try to open these portals by experimenting more.
39:44
With DMT and there are other researchers.
39:46
Now who are conducting? That kind of research.
39:48
Again, the gates of hell are the ones that we open inside of us
39:52
when we open ourselves to the spirit Realm, By mindfulness,
39:58
you know this sort of meditation where you you chant a mantra and
40:03
open your mind, just to clear, your mind and open yourself to
40:08
the influence of outside entities.
40:12
I think there's there's a real danger there that is not
40:15
acknowledged by People who are, who are believing that DMT is
40:22
the key to our Ascension to another level of consciousness.
40:28
Yeah, there's a reason God created the pineal gland but
40:31
only has a produce miniscule amounts of DMT.
40:36
And again maybe that was the physical trigger that he used
40:41
supernaturally to open the perception of Isaiah and Ezekiel
40:45
and Daniel and Etc to the spirit realm.
40:48
But it's not something that we were supposed to do on our own
40:51
and God made that very clear. Now, as far as the placebo
40:55
effect boy, that's That's a big topic.
40:59
We were talking spiritually medically?
41:02
Yeah, I honestly, I don't know, it not given it much thought to
41:05
be quite honest. What comes to mind for me is
41:08
there's those who enter the door illegally.
41:11
Sorry, not through the door but they climb and another way in
41:14
and Christ says that he is the way the truth, and the life that
41:18
through him, we come to the father.
41:20
So I found that to be interesting, you know, the
41:22
scriptures reminding us that God is Spirit.
41:26
Yeah. He's um, 10 on the present,
41:28
right? I mean he's he's he's not bound
41:30
and unable to come in and manifest anything.
41:33
He wants them to the Physical Realm shows up as a burning bush
41:36
while speaking with Moses I'm so I don't want to put myself in a
41:39
box where I limit God what God can or can't do.
41:42
But, you know, as I study through the scriptures in their
41:44
not appear in to what the world is tossing up, what the new
41:48
topic is to roll down a bunch of people's throats today, you
41:52
know, just that soft. Gentle voice was reminded me
41:55
illegal access. My stance isn't to argue if it's
41:59
accessible. Well, the Bible doesn't say you
42:02
can't talk to the dead. It says, don't speak with them,
42:05
right? Think we'd argue that, if it's
42:08
possible or not to those who have an ear to hear hear me here
42:11
guys, but that there's a way of doing it.
42:13
I think through prayer and fasting, God has shown us, that
42:17
is the way to access. Now, whether the the pineal
42:19
gland fills up with melatonin and gets converted over to DMT
42:23
and it triggers its the beginning process to trigger
42:25
that. I don't know.
42:26
We are A fully created, but if that's where my brain went is,
42:31
there's a plethora of different people illegally accessing.
42:35
Yeah. And feeding into the confusion,
42:37
when it comes to the placebo, I um, I don't have a terrible
42:41
amount of thoughts on it either. It's just I find it interesting
42:44
that there's two forms from what I read.
42:47
I don't remember exactly the second one was to then they have
42:50
a bad idea of this medication in their mind but it's a sugar pill
42:54
and they take it and they can actually do a have an Onset of
42:58
symptoms based upon their pre conceived thoughts about what
43:02
that medication doesn't. I found out just be really
43:04
interesting. Yeah there's so much we just all
43:06
know but and it is true it is statistically shown that people
43:12
who pray in a hospital setting. Oh yeah, I have better outcomes
43:17
on average than people who don't.
43:19
And that's that's just statistics that those are
43:24
numbers and you know, that that's not Subjective accounts
43:31
of people who, I feel a little better than I did before.
43:34
No. No.
43:34
These are people who report praying and just statistically
43:39
their time and Hospital, shorter, etc, etc.
43:42
There are better outcomes for people who believe that God is
43:47
working in their lives. And who knows, maybe?
43:50
It's maybe it's a physiological response to the hope that we
43:54
have in Christ. If you're in a better mood, your
43:56
body responds. To treatment, who knows?
43:59
But the fact is that there is a correlation there and high
44:05
probable upon high probability that correlation in that case
44:08
does equal causation. Well said, when you brought up
44:12
the Ayahuasca, a lot of people down South America and they do
44:15
these rituals, you guys are playing on a court that you
44:18
don't have the permission to play on that.
44:22
You know, the people that are doing these things and illegally
44:24
accessing. Yeah you're going to see some
44:26
really strange stuff happens there.
44:27
Is going to be some parallels. So, for the listeners out there,
44:30
when you talk with someone like me else, I wouldn't announce
44:33
that your experience is real. I'm willing to go down the
44:36
rabbit trail to the extent that I can direct it back towards the
44:40
Christ. Anyway, leads me on to my next
44:42
question. Do you think that the forces of
44:46
Darkness, the Fallen ones have physical technology that can be
44:50
perceived by us? There's a lot of information
44:54
that goes out and around, obviously, with craft in the
44:57
sky. Maybe not always being a
44:59
government but being from the camp of Darkness, do you think
45:03
that they have any access or technology that pair appear in
45:08
our ground? This isn't something I've
45:11
researched heavily but I would not discount the possibility.
45:16
I'm it. Certainly if it achieves their
45:18
goal of deceiving us into accepting them as something that
45:23
disproves the existence of God and his Christ.
45:28
If? They can convince us that these
45:32
entities are actually our space brothers from Zeta reticuli and,
45:38
you know, really the whole ancient alien.
45:41
Movement that the belief is rooted, in theosophy.
45:45
It is is really repackage theosophy and Josh Peck.
45:48
And I showed that in our book back in 2017, The Day, the Earth
45:52
stands still. Yes, there is a direct linear
45:55
correlation from the teachings of Lovato ski.
45:57
And Croley, filtered through the horror fiction of h p Lovecraft,
46:01
which was then repackaged in the late 1960s by Erich von daniken.
46:05
Hmm. I mean, we document this step by
46:08
step by step using the research of a couple of secular research.
46:11
Probably earn would not be happy.
46:13
If they found out that we quoted them all over the book in her
46:15
sight of their research, but the research makes sense, it
46:20
actually shows the connection step by step, by step, the
46:25
Fallen realm would not be Beyond using this kind of deception to
46:31
convince the world that God doesn't exist that they in fact
46:36
are our creators that the Ancient Aliens of Mesopotamia,
46:39
the ancient gods of Mesopotamia were.
46:41
In fact, T' space travelers from the planet Nibiru, which by the
46:45
way is just a different transliteration of the Sumerian
46:48
name for the city Nipper Navarro is Nipper and Lil was not the
46:54
king of this planet Nibiru. He was the chief God of
46:58
Mesopotamia. And / was where his city was
47:01
located or Nibiru either. As my Kaiser has shown either
47:07
zecharia sitchin, couldn't read or write Sumerian, or he could
47:11
and he Just lying about the translations.
47:14
Sadly, he has deceived a whole generation of Ancient Aliens
47:19
followers and his, his work is sort of taken as received wisdom
47:24
him and Devon daniken. Who again just repackaged the
47:27
horror fiction of h p Lovecraft into.
47:30
Well, what is past for alternative archaeology?
47:35
The Chariots of the Gods is his book is called the best-selling.
47:41
Book of archaeology and history, which really drives actual
47:46
archaeologists absolutely mad with because it's not, it's not
47:52
you, I mean, Von daniken claimed in an interview back in, like,
47:56
1972 that a lot of his information was received from
47:59
the spirit realm. Okay, yeah.
48:05
There's not a logic, not a lot of logic there, but it's more
48:10
comforting. For many people to believe that
48:12
or to believe that the ancient Sumerians just couldn't
48:15
recognize space Travelers for what they were then to believe
48:17
that there is actually a God, who spoke everything into
48:20
existence has decreed a set of moral standards.
48:26
That are pretty clearly outlined in the Bible and that choice has
48:30
been put before us. He created us all with Free Will
48:33
and that choice is, do you accept me?
48:37
Or do you not? He's not created us to be
48:40
mindless automaton. Titans.
48:43
And that be created, the spirit realm the same way and just like
48:46
us, many of them have chosen to reject God's Authority and do
48:50
their own thing. I'm just sitting here is for me.
48:53
I'm just having a moment, you know, I remember the first time
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that I talked with you Derek and really feeling like on the path
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and space of yawn and as I get watered, you know, and other
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seeds get planted. I just can't help but, you know,
49:11
share the humbleness and then the thankfulness The scriptures
49:15
keeps popping in my head right now so I'm just going to say it
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because usually that's a sign for first say this now.
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But don't grow weary in doing good.
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You know in due season we're going to reap and I know a lot
49:27
of people have taken some some very hard judgments from the
49:32
world because of speaking on behalf of the truth I don't
49:36
think the persecution started here in America as we know it
49:40
happens other places in the world but I do believe that
49:43
there's a season come in where Going to need to see that gift
49:46
of encouragement, rise up and, and humility, just, you know,
49:50
lean lean together on the topic. That is most important to me,
49:56
which is going to be the hope and the resurrection of Christ.
49:58
And all these other things that that they are so important to
50:02
cover, these topics and learn you know the history of the
50:05
Bible and just to educate you know each other and just dive
50:10
into these topics is it's just wildly amazing.
50:12
Just kind of having a moment right now.
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It's Wednesday. Is deja vu or something but just
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just talking with you again and running through it.
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And I last time I kind of felt like I had this Derek, we're
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talking about the Bulls of Bashan and I brought up in, I
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think it's in the Psalms where Christ says, many bulls of
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Bashan have been Compass me, right?
50:33
And you're breaking down about the Shawnee, you know, the
50:36
listeners, he was an adversary. They're going to know exactly
50:38
what I'm talking about, but you know Psalm 68 22.
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The Lord says I will bring my enemies down from John and I
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will bring them up from the depths of the sea.
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The enemy, you know, in the spirit world, they have the high
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mountain that the mustard seed of faith is called Throw Down.
50:54
And, and then they have, what is a mystery and the secrets of the
50:58
depths of the ocean of Darkness, just as I believe the abysses
51:02
deep. I believe that the enemy
51:05
continues to add to the inventory of confusion.
51:07
Yeah, couple last questions here for you will sure.
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What do you think is the most important message for the
51:13
millennial generation right now? That the supernatural struggle
51:19
in the Bible is real. I mean, there's again, coming
51:22
back to Jesus and his choice of location for being baptized by
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John. The place where he chose to
51:31
declare his divinity at the base of Mount Hermon why he did, what
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he did, going back into the Old Testament.
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Why did God choose to have the Israelites turn around as
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they're escaping from Egypt and camp at a place facing a site
51:46
called Bales affan. Bales a Canaanite, god, why is
51:49
he in Egypt? Don't we need to ask those
51:52
questions. Why, what why was it called
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bales of on? Oh, that's the name of his
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sacred Mountain. Yeah, that's like 600 miles
51:57
away. So, why did why did he put the
52:00
Israelites there before? Then parting the Red Sea and
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having the miraculously cross? Oh, it's because bail became the
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chief god of the pantheon, by defeating the see God in combat
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in, Yahweh was demonstra. Oh, oh, okay.
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This was a message in the spirit realm.
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The Bible is only boring because most of us have been taught.
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That most of the characters in it Divine and human are
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imaginary. They've been made up, this is a
52:27
imaginary backstory created by the Israelites sometime.
52:29
After the Persian conquest of the Levant sometime after the
52:35
Babylonian captivity to create a backstory for Israel, a creation
52:39
myth. Not.
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So Archaeology is disproving that every single day, new
52:46
archaeological. Discovery showing that the is
52:48
the Hebrews were not only in Canaan long before the scholars.
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Want to believe that they were, they had, they had the ability
52:56
to write their had their own written language.
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Yeah. You know, as early as the 14th
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century BC which is like within a century of the, the conquest
53:05
of Canaan it within A Century Of The Exodus.
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These things are real. These things happen in certain
53:10
places because there was a specific message or a specific
53:15
incident attach them and God had a specific message for the
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entities connected with that region.
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Why did God take him to the Wilderness of sin and the Mount
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Sinai? Oh well it was a Wilderness of
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scene scene was the name of the Moon.
53:30
God it was like the most important God in the Amorite
53:32
Pantheon. Oh my God, Mount Sinai, the
53:36
mountain of the Moon God. Why do this?
53:38
All right, start complaining, when they entered the Wilderness
53:41
of seen on the 15th day of the second month, all in a lunar
53:44
calendar, that's the night when the moon was full and the moon
53:46
was at his full power and her, taking us into the territory.
53:49
The moon got in raw, gonna die stuff.
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Like this is all through the Bible and when we begin to look
53:56
at it through the lens of the Divine Council and understand
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that, these small G Gods, who are under judgment.
54:03
Psalm 82 is like a courtroom scene in heaven.
54:06
Where God says, though you Are God's sons of the most high.
54:11
You like men, you shall die and fall like any prints, the deaths
54:15
of the Gods has been decreed. We're on the middle of like a
54:19
Lord of the Rings on steroids Epic.
54:23
But most of us have been taught that know these Idols.
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They worshipped were just carved bits of wood and stone.
54:29
They were imaginary really, the civilization, that created the
54:35
ziggurats of ancient Sumer than the pyramids of Egypt.
54:38
The the massive architectural wonders of Greece and Rome.
54:43
They were literally sacrificing other humans to those Gods
54:46
because they were imaginary not because they got something out
54:51
of it. That's pretty Condescending.
54:54
And yet the same people who will say those things are willing to
54:59
engage in mindfulness or consult with mediums, to try to contact
55:05
the spirits of their deceased loved ones and so forth.
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I think innately humans know that there is a spirit realm.
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Yeah and we have the guidebook to the supernatural to borrow a
55:15
phrase from l.a. Marzulli.
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It's called the Bible. We just need to read it the way.
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The first century Church, read it Zeus.
55:23
This is real Apollo is real, but they're Fallen Angels, their
55:27
days are numbered be on the right side of History.
55:32
Well, there was a time where I literally was wrestling with.
55:41
Am I going crazy or is all of this real?
55:45
You know, I had to ask myself that question and I know that
55:49
there's many, many people out there that may be straddling
55:53
that very line. And I think just through what
55:58
Derek is demonstrated, it's not like let alone the last three
56:01
seasons and all of the Information.
56:02
We've covered those far. That supports.
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All of this is real. The camp of darkness, and they
56:12
Meander through with many different masks and strategies,
56:14
but there's a camp of light. It's, he's the creator of the
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cap. See you see?
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He created all of it as l.a., Marzulli would say the cosmic
56:24
test match, right? Hmm.
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And that's the one we're looking for to, you know, we look to for
56:33
our hope, he's the Strong Tower, we run to in the day of help in
56:36
trouble and that you this with the millennial, every generation
56:39
needs to hear that. But I feel like the millennial
56:42
generation is right on the cusp of, like, they're finally
56:44
growing up and buying houses and like, you know, becoming taking
56:47
on important roles in society. Some of them and That's my
56:54
generation. You know, Derek my generation
56:56
was we didn't have super computers in our pockets in the
57:00
early teen years or the prepubescent years, we don't
57:03
have super, super computers like Generations do today.
57:06
We were right on that line of like, you know, still went and
57:08
played down by the river and ran around the neighborhood and
57:10
stuff like that and then, you know, by the time I'm 18, we
57:14
have, you know, pretty much supercomputers access to.
57:18
So it's very peculiar generation in my opinion.
57:21
Just just Just because I feel like we're a little bit of that
57:25
old-school. A little bit of that has been
57:28
transferred to us, which would be calluses on the hands,
57:31
working hard, and by the sweat of our brow understanding, you
57:33
have to earn things and then, you know, a little bit of this
57:36
new, technology driven, you know, kind of lazy entitled
57:42
generation. It's just kind of, I'm from sway
57:46
people, more more back to that. Hey, it's good to work with your
57:49
hands, you know. It's going to plant and water
57:51
the seeds and and For those of us who were doing it for the
57:55
true kingdom of God, don't grow weary, you guys and is good
57:58
donating and okay. So I got had a couple good
58:03
questions here but I'm gonna ask I'm going to ask this one.
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If you could travel back in time and witness one, Bible story
58:12
play out right before your eyes. What one would you choose?
58:16
Can only choose one. Crucifixion.
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Yeah. I mean, if that's really what
58:26
it's all about either that or the resurrection seeing the
58:29
resurrected Christ. I mean Paul wrote in in 1st
58:31
Corinthians, 15, that that chapter is all about the
58:35
importance of the resurrection and really, that's what it's all
58:37
about. All of us will be resurrected
58:39
someday and that was the point of First Corinthians chapter 15,
58:43
which is a, in a nutshell. Christian theology.
58:47
Apologetics and the hope that we have in what is to come.
58:51
So I yeah. Say, I would love to have been
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among the the men of Galilee, the the disciples who saw the
58:59
Risen Christ as Paul wrote that he appeared first to Peter then
59:02
to James, then to the rest of the twelve, then to hundreds of
59:06
Brothers, at once some of whom have fallen asleep, but most are
59:09
still awake. But Paul was writing to the
59:11
church at Corinth like 20 years after the resurrection or more
59:14
was, hey, there are a lot of witnesses to this miracle.
59:19
And if you don't believe me, send somebody to Jerusalem and
59:22
asked around because there are eyewitnesses to this and it's
59:25
important that you believe and accept this because the gospel
59:28
by which we are saved is very simply believing that Jesus in
59:32
accordance with the scriptures died, for our sins and that in
59:35
accordance with the scriptures rose again on the third day.
59:39
That is it, that is the gospel by which we are saved just
59:42
accepting that historic fact and acknowledging based.
59:45
On that fact that Christ Jesus is Lord and Savior and then
59:50
subjecting your life to him because Paul wrote.
59:53
If he didn't literally raised himself from the dead then we're
59:56
still all on our sins and we are of all men most miserable and he
1:00:02
goes on from there to talk about the importance of the
1:00:04
Resurrection. So yeah, I would say that would
1:00:07
be the one. Just put me in the back of the
1:00:10
crowd. Seeing this man who had been
1:00:12
dead for three days, come back to life.
1:00:15
The climax of The Good News, man.
1:00:18
That's a great. Resurrection.
1:00:19
Sunday should be the biggest holiday on the Christian
1:00:22
calendar. Not Christmas, not Halloween.
1:00:24
Certainly, it should be Resurrection, Sunday.
1:00:28
Yeah, dude, I agree hands down. I don't, I have trouble with a
1:00:32
lot of the holidays that are celebrated publicly, but if you
1:00:37
could write a short letter paragraph or two to the younger
1:00:41
you at the time where you first open the Bible started studying.
1:00:45
And then been captivated by what would you say short letter
1:00:49
paragraph or two? Well, seeing as how I didn't
1:00:52
really start down this path until I was 35.
1:00:54
If I could go back and write a letter to me at the age of 10,
1:00:58
hmm, it would be. Okay, 50 years on.
1:01:03
Here's a few things that I've learned that you need to know
1:01:07
sooner rather than later. These stories are real.
1:01:13
Jobe 41 this description of that entity in there.
1:01:15
It's not a crocodile. It's a dragon dragons are real.
1:01:19
Giants are real. These small G Gods.
1:01:24
Whose death is deaths. Have been decreed by the Creator
1:01:27
are real. So start studying this now.
1:01:32
Don't wait another 25 years which is kind of what I did get
1:01:38
this now and start sharing this hope with your friends because
1:01:44
in effect, I wasted 25 years and more By not really taking it
1:01:50
seriously. I mean, I accepted Christ as a
1:01:54
sixth grader, but was not really discipled or mentored and, you
1:01:58
know, I don't blame my parents or anybody for that.
1:02:00
Just again, most American Christians have just been
1:02:03
raised. That Jesus is sort of a cosmic
1:02:04
life coach, you know, follow his example, and you'll be happy,
1:02:08
but it's much more than that. It's a spiritual war.
1:02:11
It's a supernatural War. It is a war of cosmic scope and
1:02:16
eternal consequences. And if we started communicating
1:02:20
that, you know, hey look, Lord of the Rings, that's great.
1:02:23
It's awesome. But here's one it's real.
1:02:26
It's got all of the same elements as got Dragons.
1:02:29
It's got Wizards, it's got God's.
1:02:30
It's got epic warriors battles, just, you know, epic sacrifice
1:02:38
self sacrifice for others. It's got failures.
1:02:41
It's got triumphs and it's got a wonderful ending and guess what?
1:02:45
You're in this story. You may not realize it but
1:02:49
you're in this story. And when this movie is finally
1:02:53
screened on the big screen in heaven, don't you want to see
1:02:58
yourself in that one scene as one of the extras?
1:03:04
Wow. if we communicated that to our kids and our grandkids man,
1:03:13
Richard you want to talk about her new a Revival, this, this
1:03:17
would be it. That would be it.
1:03:19
We've got this story. That is so incredibly, amazing
1:03:24
and fascinating and we do such a lousy job because we've Saudi
1:03:29
super naturalized and dumbed it down.
1:03:33
And I don't mean to sound angry. I'm and maybe that's, you know,
1:03:36
my own disappointment for taking so long to catch on to all of
1:03:39
this. Because it is a story of a
1:03:42
Creator who loves us so much that he was willing to walk
1:03:45
among us to set aside his divinity.
1:03:48
Something that none of these Mesopotamian are Greek or Roman
1:03:51
gods would ever do and suffer for us, knowing that we were
1:03:56
going to Rebel like a parent. A parent who sacrifices himself
1:04:03
to save a child. That's exactly what God has done
1:04:06
for us. And if we, if we understood
1:04:10
that, that, that power of that story and then realized that for
1:04:15
all of our failures, he's still willing to say, hey, I've still
1:04:18
got a role for you to play in the army.
1:04:21
Wow. You know, it's it is epic.
1:04:28
And we have. So Shrunk the story down, I
1:04:32
mean, by by portraying Jesus and the gospel message as nothing
1:04:37
more than a way to live your best life now and I don't mean
1:04:40
that as a direct slap at any popular TV preacher.
1:04:44
But if well, it's like Paul wrote.
1:04:47
If our hope is in this life only than we have all men are most
1:04:49
miserable. Yeah, our hope is not in this
1:04:52
life. Only, it is in eternity.
1:04:56
And God is saying here, I've got a role for you in this Army.
1:05:00
And oh yeah, we've got these angels and some of these dragons
1:05:05
that are on my side and you'll be fighting alongside them in
1:05:10
the, you know, like oh, wow. And against an army literally of
1:05:20
the evil dead. I mean, yeah, there is no bigger
1:05:23
story than this, and this is why Sharon writes fiction, because
1:05:27
as a fiction author I've dabbled in it, but as a fiction author,
1:05:31
you can't have a bigger palette than that to work with.
1:05:38
Man, I just took an emotional rollercoaster with you as you
1:05:42
shared that, I really felt like I connected with what you're
1:05:45
saying. And well, praise God, give him
1:05:47
credit. Dude, it is an honor to be able
1:05:54
to speak with you again, man. They will brother is I mean your
1:06:00
honor is mine, thanks information.
1:06:02
And and then you give you give us your heart at the end and we
1:06:06
can share our cousin, we just got everything, we got very
1:06:12
emotional as you shared that. When you think about it we are
1:06:15
the prodigal son. We are and he is willing to
1:06:20
welcome us back, even though we're covered with, and you
1:06:22
notice that the prodigal son was serving the the swineherd Keeper
1:06:28
of the unclean animals in the story, that would be Satan.
1:06:33
Okay? And the L the elder brother, who
1:06:37
gets kind of miffed that the father puts on a banquet for us
1:06:40
coming back. Stinking of Pig stuff.
1:06:44
Those are the Angels have been loyal.
1:06:46
Yeah. And they're wondering why are
1:06:48
you going out of your way for these?
1:06:52
Who rebelled against your Authority denied, your very
1:06:55
existence even though you spoke them into creation and God is
1:07:00
like look, you got your inheritance but they were lost
1:07:04
and now they're found. And you know you think about it
1:07:07
in those terms. That's who we are and he's
1:07:11
willing to welcome us back and put the Signet ring on our hands
1:07:14
and welcome us back into the family.
1:07:16
We are destined to rejoin the Divine Council.
1:07:21
The Adam and Eve lost that right in Eden.
1:07:25
God is willing to let us back in. if we just accept, according
1:07:30
to Paul the gospel, by which you are being saved, the historic
1:07:36
fact of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, Praise God.
1:07:47
I know it's been edifying for me.
1:07:50
Share it with a friend, a family member, A co-worker, share this,
1:07:53
with your past, share this, with your pastor.
1:07:56
Going to church as I have a. So I got something for you a
1:07:58
little bit different. Thank you for listening.
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God Bless America, goodbye.