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- 0:00Laced up let's go
- 0:13Yo yo yo welcome back to banter with the boys horns up to YouTube and Facebook. What's up?
- 0:21You may notice I have a Hawaiian shirt on today
- 0:24Actually has airplanes on it too cuz I'm a nerd and I like Oshkosh. Yeah show but anyway
- 0:35But you know, it's beach now it's beach time the season's over so I figured I just go full beach
- 0:41Mode. Yeah, I mean and us living in Minnesota
- 0:44Beach is about the perfect thing. We're thinking about right now. I think we think about negative four outside right now
- 0:50So yeah, the feels like is probably more less than that. Yeah. Yeah, it's gross. It's gross, but yeah
- 0:59Yeah, whatever. So now we look forward to next season the vikes win in the division and the Super Bowl
- 1:03And this is where we went in the Super Bowl next year. So fi
- 1:07No, I thought that was
- 1:09The year after that. Where is it next year?
- 1:12Leave I kev's on it kev's on it by the way
- 1:15Thanks kev for being here all season does all the work for us behind the scenes. It is a Levi's good call
- 1:19No, it goes I think goes Levi
- 1:22sulfi
- 1:24Somewhere else then back to sulfi
- 1:28Really? Yeah, so fi three times that quick. Yeah, I think it was nice venue three of the next four Super Bowl during, California. Hmm
- 1:35Whatever whatever. Well, I mean, it's good weather. Hey, it's good weather. I mean
- 1:39Well, you know what day I'm cuz when the super my here. Yeah, it was super cold
- 1:43So exactly for the Super Bowl, you know, I mean, so whatever
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- 3:02the became recap the Super Bowl recap
- 3:12With that we all know we already all know we don't want to spend a ton of time on it
- 3:17But you're here because you want to hear about our opinions
- 3:21I guess I mean if you've been here this long all season
- 3:23You probably want to hear what we have to say about the Super Bowl
- 3:25But Eagles get in the wind 40 to 22 over the Chiefs
- 3:28The script broke, you know, no three Pete for the Chiefs
- 3:33It was over quickly it was
- 3:36Quickly you know and it was one of those games
- 3:39I think about the first quarter is really when I kind of started mentally
- 3:44Checking out that this game is probably gonna be over to be honest
- 3:48And the commercials there was nothing that really caught my eye. There was a couple funny ones
- 3:51I thought that's what it's been for the past few years
- 3:53Commercial Super Bowl commercials haven't been good since I've been in like middle school for you would be different
- 3:58But for me it was most middle school. What does he think like they got too politically correct or they scared to like?
- 4:06No
- 4:08Kev's doing money which is fair which is true
- 4:11Is that is that for for the commercials this year?
- 4:14Yeah, but like Doritos and Budweiser then I mean those used to hold competitions. Yeah. Yeah
- 4:21And you could submit your own videos and make your own commercial and stuff and they'd pick the fan commercials
- 4:25Yeah, and then you always like the Budweiser frogs
- 4:27I mean, that's a really old school, but like they just had a bunch of different so it was a frog bud why?
- 4:32Oh, yeah, okay
- 4:35Okay
- 4:37Catch up with the daisies. Yeah, I guess I got a catch up. Okay
- 4:39No, I agree with you nothing really intriguing and then the game was a complete blowout as we know 24 nothing at half
- 4:46Yeah
- 4:47Now I did I'll take this blame last week
- 4:51I did say that the biggest thing would be to keep Saquon contained in between the tackles
- 4:57And I would argue that the Chiefs defense I was like the only thing they did was kind of keep him contained
- 5:02I mean he had under a hundred scrimmage yards
- 5:05What's like three yards, but like he had under a hundred scrimmage yards, which I did not expect going into the Super Bowl
- 5:11But he did have a stellar season carrying them more than a hundred
- 5:15I mean he probably had top five top three running back
- 5:20But a really interesting scenario. Where did he finish probably second?
- 5:24What for yards and rushing yards in the season? Yeah, but I think his
- 5:30dynamic ability to you know, catch the ball run the ball and
- 5:33He's a game changer
- 5:35You have to game plan for him
- 5:37But do you remember that first drive when the Eagles went down there and ended up tush pushing?
- 5:41I actually told one of the guys who were sitting there watching the game. I go what if this was
- 5:46Barkley's only opportunity to score a touchdown and they tush push instead
- 5:50I mean tush push, but he'd rather have the touchdown all day
- 5:53But he never is he but it ended up playing out just like he didn't end up scoring a touchdown for sure
- 5:58But I think he would just take the touchdown all day. No matter what. Oh, yeah
- 6:01I think the Super Bowl victory, but I actually wanted to bring up the tush push again because what what again is the rule?
- 6:07You can't
- 6:08Grab the runner and actually physically push them in because that's exactly what happened
- 6:13I think you could push you just can't pull
- 6:16Is that what it is? Is that what the difference in the rule is? I don't know Facebook live if you're listening somebody jump in there
- 6:21I know I think that might be right like you can't turn around and pull them in or whatever
- 6:24Because I think that one time they did call it maybe that was a college game too though
- 6:28Because I don't know if it was Goddard or whoever was behind them literally went up put two freaking big old meat hands
- 6:35And then pushed them in like wait a minute. I thought the definition literally like you can't literally push them in but I
- 6:40I can't remember but whatever but I mean if I had to get rid of anything it would be the assistance from the other players
- 6:49Would be the rule change. Yeah because then it's just a quarterback sneak. But I'm also gonna give that you know
- 6:53Jalen Earth squats 500 pounds too so
- 6:55Oh no Jalen Earth is a beast
- 6:57That guy's a dog too so a lot of that's all him
- 6:59Hopefully his hate stops now you know a lot of people are gonna be like oh my god
- 7:03He's got a lot of hate stops now you know a lot of people have been hating on him whatever
- 7:07We've kind of just said all year that he does just enough to get by because that's all he needs to do
- 7:11Yeah and again I mean he pretty much did it again you know he's done what he's done all year and it was you know
- 7:17Good for him. I'm glad he got a Super Bowl he just doesn't turn over the ball that I mean that's I think the key factor for him
- 7:22And then it I think a game like this one it's out of hand real quickly that
- 7:27He didn't have to make a lot of tight throws and you know everything was pretty simple. He yeah
- 7:32So that tush push was a second touchdown right are they getting all the first one first one?
- 7:36How do you feel about that?
- 7:38offensive pass interference
- 7:40Early on that first drive on AJ. I actually threw that out in the Facebook to as a question
- 7:46I thought it was pass interference on the offense especially hands to the head. Yeah, you know yeah, okay?
- 7:52I was just curious how you felt. How did you feel I leaned more towards?
- 7:56Let him play it out like don't get me wrong like you it's the it's the hand of the face like you said right like
- 8:01There's somebody's like this you like that's annoying
- 8:03you know and that's by definition hands to the hands to the faces you gonna call PI, but I
- 8:10Like he never shoved or anything you know it just kind of worked its way up there
- 8:13Which you know if that's the penalty you got all it right?
- 8:16And then he caught a little the face bass turned his head, and I think that's what kind of made him trip
- 8:22Like if they were hand fighting like the five yards prior to that then I maybe I'm like cool
- 8:27Let him play it out sure, but there wasn't really a time. I'm fine. You know it was just the first contact really was AJ Brown to
- 8:36Mcduffy you know so fair enough
- 8:38But I mean that is slowly that was the one thing that Eagles did wrong all day
- 8:43No, I know no for sure the one the one thing so there's that call right?
- 8:48People had an issue with well chiefs fans had an issue
- 8:52It's the no call on to Patrick Mahomes fumble, and he got clobbered well technically
- 8:57After the fumble the ball's already out. Yeah, you know so by rule. It's the loose ball like yeah
- 9:02He's he's fair game kind of you know I mean so that one unfortunately
- 9:06But other than that those are kind of the only two calls that really stuck out massively that I've seen anyway that people were having
- 9:11issue with so maybe did you feel like the rest maybe kept the
- 9:16Flags in the pocket a little harder just because the controversy
- 9:19And then when Travis Kelsey came out when the reporter goes hey if you had to ask us a question
- 9:24What would it be be like you know why you guys talking about this ref stuff?
- 9:27And then the refs Union I think came out and said
- 9:31Some stuff you know like you know all 138
- 9:35part-time refs
- 9:38Would not do anything like that's against their integrity and everything they stand for so and that's another thing
- 9:44You do take pride in that but yeah, that's a great question. We'll talk about that later, but why well why why is there not full-time?
- 9:51I don't know that billion dollar companies can't afford
- 9:56128 more employees I guess I mean I guess you know
- 10:01So while we're still talking about the Eagles kind of in a way
- 10:04Devante Smith to becomes the first Alabama player drafted to score touchdown
- 10:10Really rushing or receiving obviously there's been some quarterbacks right?
- 10:14Now I forgot both of their names awesome good job
- 10:17Really long time ago way before my time probably before your time to probably back force gum played probably
- 10:25But yeah first Alabama player drafted to score a touchdown in a Super Bowl
- 10:30Specifically sorry I didn't finish the super okay, but we're talking about the Super Bowl. Yeah, that was implied, but
- 10:35He is you know as a reminder. He's also won
- 10:38You know a national championship in college a Heisman and now also a Super Bowl which I believe he may I don't know if he's only
- 10:45Alabama player to do that
- 10:47So that a Hall of Famer almost then by technique you know at Alabama. Yeah
- 10:52Probably yeah at Alabama maybe yeah, that's if yeah
- 10:57I want to look at a stat not if not if you just scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl right well
- 11:01You're super on his way to having a pretty solid career already. You know you are a Super Bowl champion now
- 11:06Yeah, so but I think in Alabama. That's a pretty you know you might might be Alabama Hall of Fame a Ring of Honor
- 11:12Whatever they do down there. Is he the only one that's ever done that?
- 11:17Tell us what's up? Nattie Heisman
- 11:20There's no way he's the only one to ever do that well
- 11:22I'm gonna how many there's a wall there's only probably only a 70 Heisman where so let's see because I put that
- 11:29for a reason but
- 11:32Maybe Kevin can look it up in the background while we're plugging away out anyway
- 11:37So yeah anyway, I thought that was interesting tidbit, but other than that I mean
- 11:41Other than that I mean
- 11:43We kind of covered everything
- 11:45The Eagles just dominated that front four. I mean I think I saw a stat
- 11:51First time a Super Bowl winner has blitz zero times
- 11:55Then yeah, they never had to you know and that's pretty much the story of that whole game when you can attack
- 12:02an offensive for down lineman constantly and get
- 12:06Consistent pro actually I would say more than consistent pressure in this last game again. Just dominant
- 12:11I just dominant just Patrick Holmes was just
- 12:17Eagles but it was so fun to watch such a dominant defense
- 12:20Yeah, it was like I said the front four, but the front seven the old defense
- 12:24I mean everybody was just on it so and Brandon Graham. I saw a plan
- 12:28He did get his chance to play and we got a tackle even no
- 12:32But Josh sweat had a great game. He did for agents both of those guys are free agents coming up Brandon great
- 12:40Oh, that's right. I
- 12:41Don't you think Brandon Graham leaves well actually Brandon Graham. I think has one more year, but I think
- 12:47I mean, he's probably cuttables really at this point, but sweat is definitely
- 12:53Up for a contract and then Zach Braun their linebacker. I was talking a couple of fans
- 13:01That's a crazy pick Ian and Josh give you shout out like at first obviously the throw looked horrible right?
- 13:06But when you slow it down, I mean my homes is kind of getting decked like in the hip
- 13:10So he's I'm not trying to make an excuse for my homes
- 13:12No, you know but like he is kind of getting hit from the side and kind of just I don't
- 13:17He was throwing it at the ground, but brah made a great
- 13:20He made a great catch and then you know Cooper Gina the pick six
- 13:24I'm that whole back that side secondary is young other than Slay
- 13:28I the core of the defense is young very young and they're the fourth youngest team in the NFL
- 13:35So for the rest of us
- 13:37cheering for different teams
- 13:39The Eagles might be a problem and then I've also looked into their next year salary
- 13:44They have just some older veteran cornerbacks that are due otherwise
- 13:49The core of their team is all under contract
- 13:53The next two years yeah, because they're all young they've drafted all this day are they've literally drafted all this talent
- 14:00I mean what a load Jordan Davis is to six six three thirty six, but yeah
- 14:04So the Eagles are gonna be a problem for a couple for a couple years going forward
- 14:08I think so sure but on the other side of the ball or the other
- 14:13Whatever you know I mean the Chiefs. Yeah that old line
- 14:17Do we want Smith here?
- 14:19I've seen some really interesting ex conversations about that you know like oh he didn't have a awesome Super Bowl
- 14:26Maybe they'll be but fired up for next year
- 14:29I'm like are you believe none of that old line had a good Super Bowl well true and then also it's you know
- 14:34Like any video game you just you're guessing pass the whole time because they had to pass
- 14:39So it's easy to pin your ears back and really get after them and then again not blitzing because you don't have to be
- 14:44Because the D line was so dominant. It was just John Taylor was going backwards the whole game. So were the
- 14:50What's their left tackles name?
- 14:52Tony yeah, Tony Tony he was going backwards the whole game, too. I mean it was just it wasn't good
- 14:57It wasn't a good luck for the and then they had uh who's that D tackle?
- 15:00I heard our local football guy talking about maybe he's a free agent
- 15:07Trying to think what the Chiefs is it the Chiefs or he's on well Williams
- 15:11I think is his last name Milton William. Yes, that's that's the that's the Eagles. Yeah, the tackle
- 15:17Yeah, yeah, I mean even so likes, but I mean he's a possibility
- 15:21But also like you look at a staff or snap person
- 15:24He's only plays about 50% of the snap defense snaps well, but you're gonna be splitting that between you got Jay
- 15:31Jordan Davis, and doesn't Jalen Carter get down and detect yeah, Jalen Carter
- 15:36You know so you you got it's just a gelato
- 15:39I know so if he wants to play maybe he doesn't sign
- 15:43And the Vikings need to absolutely go pick him up then yeah
- 15:46I mean because Bullard and tiller you're both gone, which I didn't know or else will be free agents
- 15:50I'm set to be so they need to help there not to go on a Vikings danger. We'll get to the Vikes
- 15:54Don't worry. We'll get to the Vikes if you're Vikes fans stay on we got a question for you in a minute
- 16:01But yeah, I don't really have much else to say about the Super Bowl
- 16:04Just have to show your eye. It was it was it was solid. I thought the choreographed the visuals were cool
- 16:10I mean, I don't know a ton of that music
- 16:12I mean a little bit a couple of the songs, but it was pretty solid also shout out Xavier worthy that catch
- 16:18Towards the end of the game. I mean yes, it was arguably garbage time at that point. I was good
- 16:22I'm that was a great catch. It was a great catch. He has a bright future chiefs are getting a little older in the two
- 16:28So it'll be interesting what Travis Kelly is doing
- 16:31So it'll be interesting what Travis Kelsey decides to do. Um, I was kind of looking at they got some contract stuff, too
- 16:39They got to worry. Yeah, they have I mean Bolton how many years did Chris Jones end up signing?
- 16:43I think he's got at least one or two more left. He's not due for a while. He's a free agent at the moment
- 16:48Bolton's a will be yep, and um
- 16:53Because Bolton kind of holds that
- 16:55That defense together. Yeah, but he has had a really dumb play that kind of uh,
- 17:00Uh extended that drive on that personal foul on Saquon Barkley
- 17:04early in that game, too
- 17:07I think that's the one I made a note on
- 17:10Uh late hit on Barkley in the second quarter. Yeah, it was early. Yeah. Yeah
- 17:15uh
- 17:16It was just an opportunity for the chiefs to get off the field and maybe get make start to make it a game of it
- 17:20And then yeah, I think I wrote down that that one was questionable for me
- 17:24So i'm trying to remember that one at the moment. It was like a tip pass on a little screen pass and
- 17:29And it was it was Saquon still bobbling the ball when he got hit. No, no the ball was it was not near him
- 17:35And it was I don't know it was like a half step too much
- 17:38Usually I can remember all the plays I make notes on but that one like I made specific note on so I
- 17:43I don't know. I can't remember that one. I guess but yeah, it was just like a little forearm or double hand shove and
- 17:50But it was one of those that kept the drive alive. Yeah, you know, so
- 17:54But yeah, uh chiefs kind of shooting themselves in the foot, but the eagles also playing outstanding
- 17:58And carried by their defense and the offense just also answering
- 18:03And taking advantage of every opportunity given to them. So oh, I did see another cool thing. I wanted to bring up
- 18:09before the game
- 18:11They had a jimmy johnson
- 18:14Like ai tribute and it was kind of an ai version of jimmy johnson's a young guy
- 18:20Like explaining his career and you know how he started playing football at arkansas
- 18:24To and then then it was like all the people that he met along the way
- 18:28I didn't know well a jimmy johnson won a natty as a player and his teammate was
- 18:35Jerry jones
- 18:37Really? Yes
- 18:38So then when he started his coaching career
- 18:41It was like louisiana tech and it's one of his first recruits that he was recruiting was mr
- 18:46quarterback for the pittsburgh steelers that won a couple super bowls
- 18:51Yes, sir
- 18:53Oh, so and then when jerry ended up after
- 18:56Oh another fun set was you know doug flutie's hail marion the famous one
- 19:00That was against um
- 19:04Johnson jimmy johnson. Oh that I didn't so they lost that the that natty that year
- 19:09But then they end up winning one. What year was that again? Was it? I was like 86
- 19:14Probably is that hail mary's on in that? Yeah. Yeah
- 19:17Yeah, but then when jerry bought the team jimmy was the first guy he called and the rest is kind of history
- 19:24Yeah, for sure for sure. So check that out. It's probably somewhere on youtube other stats. Whatever average
- 19:30Record for us viewers was a hundred and twenty seven point seven million. It's a lot of people uh, nevada sportsbooks
- 19:39Made twenty two point one million
- 19:42I feel like that's a little lower. Yeah, it's a little low. Was there any like comparing numbers to that?
- 19:47All right, just like saw whatever that was via espn. So thanks espn. I stole that one from you. Okay
- 19:53Uh anyway, that's all I have about the super bowl
- 19:57Eagles, uh, do you think they get back next year? I think they have absolutely an opportunity. Yeah, I mean that's
- 20:03Braun they need braun if they sign him
- 20:06Um, they lose both d tackles. I mean they were possibly sweat and probably graham and then
- 20:13it's whether
- 20:15They need another offensive lineman. I know i was talking to my eagles buddies like lane johnson's getting a little old
- 20:21But and then they're losing beckham, uh, they're gone. Yeah, so he's a free agent and
- 20:26Like the word on the street is they're probably not going to sign him again because he's only 26 and he's won a
- 20:32a big contract, but even though the eagles are in the middle of
- 20:36The pack and salary cap. So sure sure so they got a little bit of money to play with
- 20:41Well, so we'll see what the answer is. Yes, I mean I agree with you
- 20:44I think i'm trying to think of who else could come out of the nfc. I mean washington the look of washington team's gonna change a little bit
- 20:51They're losing some free agents. Uh, the lions got just gotta get over that hump
- 20:55You know, uh, I don't think they're losing anybody huge the lions they need to sign
- 21:01Davis the cornerback is one and then probably saw some more depth in that d line because obviously when hutchinson went out
- 21:07It was different. You saw the difference a little bit. So is that a spot for max crosby?
- 21:12I don't think they can afford him. Yeah, I don't think they can afford is he free actually free. No, it's not free
- 21:17Yeah, all the rumors always about him being traded but miles garrett is wanting to be traded, but they don't they can't pay him
- 21:24I'm in both of them are probably gonna demand at least two first round picks and you know, and then you got miles garrett. He's 30
- 21:31Uh, he's got two years left on his contract about average about 17 million
- 21:35And then crosby's 28 and his salary for that. He has two years left on his is like about 26 million
- 21:41Why do I know all this?
- 21:43Because you're just looking at salaries
- 21:46So that makes sense what about on the afc side
- 21:49Personally, I don't think the chiefs will make it back to the super bowl for the fourth year in a row
- 21:54I think that'll finally be the bills or the ravens time to uh
- 21:59Get back but get back into the big game
- 22:01I mean out of those teams you just named I think the ravens are gonna be a little bit free agent
- 22:07You know, they're I think left tackles up
- 22:10Their defense was just up and down defense
- 22:13They got a couple guys that are going to be free agents
- 22:16So they're gonna have some holes to fill if pittsburgh could figure out a quarterback
- 22:22Well, true, maybe add a receiver
- 22:24They do need another
- 22:26Find the next running back
- 22:28Or the other side find a difference find the new next running back. I like the vibe on pickens is in in pittsburgh
- 22:35Do they love him or are they kind of like that? I feel like they like him but
- 22:40Haroon, he said something late in the season. He's got a little bit or something. Yeah, you know, I thought yeah
- 22:46I think I remember seeing some I thought he said something but it would have been like late in the season
- 22:50But I think like in general they like pickens there. He's a big he's a player with big playability. Yeah, you know, so
- 22:56The bills are pretty good. Yeah, the bills are pretty good. I mean they could use definitely another weapon. Um
- 23:01Other you know other than colman and shakir
- 23:04Um, the titans probably need to step up a little bit if cleveland got their quarterback situation figured out
- 23:10Would they be a quick flip? You know, could they get a wild card?
- 23:14I mean every year you get one or two teams that are in the top 10 that make the playoffs. So
- 23:19I mean, yeah, if they pick up, you know, what if erin rodgers went there suddenly?
- 23:23But they also need a couple receivers. Aaron Rodgers is favored to go to the purple
- 23:28Is he? Well, there's rumors circulating to to fulfill actually
- 23:32I think it was ben that put it this way to fulfill the prophecy. He has to come to the purple but uh,
- 23:39But to be honest if the vikings were looking for a veteran
- 23:43uh, erin rodgers comes to mind obviously maybe but also so does uh
- 23:47Uh, russell wilson. He was favored by vegas to come to minnesota last year. I don't see why he wouldn't be again
- 23:53Because the vikings are in a very similar situation with jj mccarthy coming off injury now
- 23:58Still in an unknown like he was last year as a rookie, you know, um arguably though. This would be a good time to just
- 24:05We're not expecting the vikings. I bet vegas gives the vikings seven wins next year. I think it's going to be another
- 24:11You know another expected. Yeah, oh 100
- 24:14100 what are they what have they changed this year? Nothing. What are they going to change next year?
- 24:19I don't know. They have money, but they got holes to fill. They had a lot of holes, you know, and their schedule is
- 24:25Brutal looks not very nice, you know, uh, and who knows who's starting a quarterback right now or running back. Aaron jones is gone
- 24:32Maybe maybe he comes back for a cheaper deal or one another one-year deal
- 24:35Who knows the secondary is torn apart harrison smith could retire. Yep, cameron bynum might be the only
- 24:41Only one left in our secondary and mattelis. No, but by them's not free agent too cameron bynum is all you're right
- 24:47Yeah, he is. So the only one I think we really have signed is
- 24:51Blackman, I think mattelis is signed too as a linebacker. He's like that man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, i'll give you that
- 24:57I'll give you that the hybrid version. Yeah, and we only have three draft but tell us could play strong safety, but
- 25:03Like he again he works in flora's defense because he can he's his rover player like yeah
- 25:08Yeah, call him and you can put him around wherever well, they call it like a strong nickel. I mean there is a rover
- 25:13There's a rover. Yeah, you know, I'd like that
- 25:15Um, but anyway, we can talk about vikings in a little bit
- 25:18But yeah, anyway, because we're still on the super bowl. So yeah, that's well, we're gonna be there next year
- 25:23So that's it at the super bowl. Yeah, we're gonna be at the super bowl
- 25:27Oh sweet, uh one of these years right kev's rob's paying to have all of us go to the super bowl next year
- 25:33Is what I heard so put that on the ticker. Yeah with that. Yeah with that kev
- 25:38Let's head right into our tent talk
- 25:42911 what's your emergency?
- 25:51And to start
- 25:53To start off our tent talk, um injuries like we normally do
- 25:57I don't think there is anything so I just put the chief's o lines feelings are probably pretty injured very yeah
- 26:04Uh, so maybe taylor swifts and definitely travis kelsey's. Yeah, does he come back next year?
- 26:12No, i'm gonna say no you don't think so i'm gonna say that was it
- 26:17God maybe i'll run it back one more time
- 26:20Really? Yeah, I think it depends on him and how his body feels. He was healthy all year
- 26:25you know, well
- 26:27Kind of I think he started banged up and he didn't really get going for a minute
- 26:30Yeah, but which obviously was really interesting about travis kelsey in this game
- 26:34I thought where we talked about I thought he'd go over 100 yards
- 26:37Well, because he he's really successful against zone defense and the eagles run a ton of zone, but they
- 26:43He won't let's be real my homes didn't have time to do much fair
- 26:47He always like before he even got to the back of his drop. He had to already be looking for an escape route
- 26:53Yeah, you know
- 26:54so uh
- 26:56They need number one receiver too, but they could use a really use a true number one receiver because xavier worthy should be kind of that
- 27:03I keep comparing them to debo. Yes. I know debos different but bigger frame all that, you know, but which we'll get to debo
- 27:09um
- 27:10But I agree with you. They need that number one receiver could is cooper cup enough
- 27:16No enough of a receiver to be one in kansas city. No, would he be an upgrade?
- 27:21I mean, he'd be an upgrade over dhop right now. I'd imagine. Oh, yeah juju, you know, but
- 27:25Um, he would definitely be an upgrade in that aspect, but he's still not a true number one. That's in demand
- 27:33number one cornerback
- 27:34attention
- 27:36So you were looking up money. Yes, do does kansas city have enough money to go get t higgins?
- 27:44Um
- 27:46I mean there's there's arguably earned a chance to be somebody's number one and he's a big he's the biggest free agent
- 27:53Probably this season at the moment. Of course my computer logged out so I can perfect, you know exactly how that works
- 27:59Um, I feel like they were in the middle of the road
- 28:03ish
- 28:04So maybe
- 28:06But I mean I was looking try the t he's probably gonna get
- 28:1025 million is kind of his projected
- 28:14Uh yearly, um, which the chiefs do have a couple of guys. They got to resign. They probably don't resign smith, you know
- 28:21right now I feel like he's gonna go to like
- 28:24Jacksonville or I also could see carolina
- 28:27And washington has a ton of money that'd be there's a good chance he could end up in washington. I don't know
- 28:33I mean scary terry is is would new england be a spot where you'd want to go yet?
- 28:41You know, I don't I feel like that team has so many holes
- 28:45so
- 28:47I don't know. I think it would add a lot to their offense though
- 28:53I think he could I think he would excel in washington. I like that over jacksonville. I think he'll sell anywhere as he goes but
- 29:02I mean he's he's a true number one receiver in the nfl
- 29:06so
- 29:08Well, there's a lot of places kansas city needs a true number one. So
- 29:12We'll see uh graham. Let us know does kansas city
- 29:15Do you want to try to acquire t higgins? Um
- 29:19Let's see. Uh, just a couple little things
- 29:22Rogers and jets most likely splitting up on our rogers watch if you will
- 29:27So I did see that a little bit of a mutual thing
- 29:31Cj mosley
- 29:32Their jet's linebacker did come out and say something along the lines. Um
- 29:37What was it that he shouldn't leave new york with his head down, you know, but it wasn't all bad. So
- 29:42So maybe he'll just maybe but maybe he'll just go to the giants. Maybe he'll just ride off in the sunset
- 29:48That's out. He can't go out like that
- 29:50My niners buddy wants him to go to sam fran
- 29:53Oh now that's interesting. I didn't think about that. Give it a run
- 29:57But then you're like, what do you do with brock purdy, you know?
- 30:00Yeah, you're not gonna be an awkward spot. Hey brock. We gotta have you sit for your buddy
- 30:04Yeah, we're gonna sign you do a big deal. We got to sit. Yeah, and then we're gonna bring in a rod
- 30:08This is only your fourth year in the nfl bus. So just take a seat. That would be awkward
- 30:13If you're brock you'd like not no, that's not gonna happen
- 30:17But it would be a good fit though. But rogers technically is under contract, right? So the jets have to cut him
- 30:22I don't think so
- 30:23I thought he only signed a two-year deal or the probably a team option third. Yeah, maybe
- 30:28You're right, but I think he's a legitimate free agent because march 1st is the big day when I think when rosters
- 30:35players
- 30:37Like bonus march 10th, you said keeps coming mark 10th somewhere in there. It's early march. Yeah early march
- 30:42So that'll be our first big movement of players in the nfl or maybe not quite moving jets awful also apparently told rogers that
- 30:51Uh, he can't really appear on the pat mcafee show or something. Yeah, they did it. Yeah, so
- 30:57That's like now you're telling the guy how to live his life. He's not gonna it's erin rogers
- 31:01He's gonna have enough ego to be like, nah, i'm not doing that
- 31:03Okay, so all right. Well, uh, okay. Here's one erin rogers to steelers
- 31:09Wouldn't be a horrible fit. But again weapons
- 31:13Yep
- 31:14George pickens and friomuth. Yeah, that's it
- 31:17And two running backs that aren't really number one running backs. No, I like jalen warren. I like him but you know
- 31:25Um and with nage, but you know, is he a true they're not bringing him back. I think he's a free agent
- 31:30Yeah, I think not nage. He's gone but
- 31:32Uh, is warren taking the 20 25, you know
- 31:36carries slash
- 31:38I don't think he can handle it all season. That's what i'm saying
- 31:41So you do need another bag to kind of split that watch naji. Sorry. I was listening to you
- 31:45But then also my mind's like uh, naji's gonna end up in minnesota
- 31:49He could I know which I don't mind if we could also i'm okay with it
- 31:54If we can resign erin jones to one more year, there's one more year one more for a cheap deal
- 31:59So that'd be our thunder line full deal because he played well for us when he was healthy and split the carry
- 32:05So hopefully we get erin jones all season and then you get the power with naji maybe. Yeah, I don't know
- 32:11That was awkward. I should not do that ever again. I mean erin jones's
- 32:14Last few games you could tell that you know, he was
- 32:18He was banged up and gas and gas for the end of the but he's a little bit different when he's healthy
- 32:22He's dead. Yes, you know, so yeah, he's not saquon, but he's different. I mean if he gave us 10 to 15, you know
- 32:28you know
- 32:29snaps or not snaps I keep saying snaps like these but like
- 32:33Um touches that's the word i'm looking for. Um, he could handle that but I take not naji
- 32:38The one thing nice about naji doesn't fumble. He fumbled for his first time in his career
- 32:43Which is true, which is crazy like last I think we even brought it up
- 32:46When he did and we were like no, that's not right and then we looked and I was like no, that's true
- 32:51No, it was right. Yeah, so I was the one that's true and we do need you are good job. We do need ball security here
- 32:57You know well, yes, because I think we have a lot of bad taste in our mouth from madison when he became our featured back
- 33:03And he started turning the ball over, you know, so I was really gung-ho on him. Anyway, um
- 33:10But yeah, I mean he'd be a nice fit. We need a running back if we were with only three draft picks
- 33:15um
- 33:17And there are some running backs available that I do like in the draft. Oh, yeah, they should look at this
- 33:23This is a we'll have a draft show deep nfl running back draft this year. So for sure
- 33:28Uh, sorry that we've sidebarred on the vikings again again on an aaron rodgers news bit
- 33:33So uh moving on to the next news bit. Don't worry. There's more vikings to come probably
- 33:38Uh, debil samuel gets permission to find a trade. I'll take him with the vikings
- 33:45How does that work though, you know find you know seeks
- 33:47His grants gets granted permission to find a trade like for a player like I don't understand when they word it that way
- 33:54Like the player's agent is now calling around the team. Yes, because I don't think you can do that. Otherwise, I think that's against
- 34:01Yeah, it's just so weird though to have them shop themselves kind of you know and go find somewhere to go
- 34:07Well, I think it's the same thing barkley did last year
- 34:09They they said hey because they I think the heat well the the giants had a team option
- 34:14So they could have signed him or matched whoever you know offered last year, right? So that's kind of the same scenario
- 34:22um
- 34:24So they just say they probably said go
- 34:28Get the market value so we know what your market value is. I mean which is
- 34:33God, I think we brought that up early in the season about somebody else, too
- 34:38I can't remember but I mean that's what they did to barkley they're like
- 34:41of do you see debo and like
- 34:43Okay, I don't know where they are money wise though. Oh the 49ers. They're they're hurting. No, no, no, not in the niners
- 34:48I know they're hurting. I know they're hurting i'm talking what about houston
- 34:52Um, I think they're okay. What a debo work in houston. They do need another receiver
- 34:57Bad receiver and you can run them out of the backfield
- 35:01You know if when joe mixon goes down, you know, they need a tackle too
- 35:05I'm just trying to think where a good good spot that debo could land i'd imagine he wants to play for somebody who could potentially contend
- 35:11Houston would be a great spot for them
- 35:13Like I honestly houston right now this part of the season is I feel like my early
- 35:20dark horse for making the afc championship next year
- 35:23Fair enough to make the championship to make the championship fair enough. I just think they have the squad
- 35:28They're slowly building it. They've shown thing like different things this year. I think they've
- 35:33They felt better last year to me
- 35:35When they've lost when they got smoked by the vikes in the second week of the season. Yeah, it's early
- 35:41But that was a huge surprise me. I didn't have to mix any of that day, which was a big deal
- 35:46But they still lost 35 nothing or whatever it was
- 35:49It was ridiculous. Um, but I mean they're set up
- 35:52They're kind of set up to win right now and you know, I don't know exactly what their draft pick scenario is
- 35:58but if they can pick up a
- 36:00If they can pick up a a two to play with nico and then you I don't know. Um
- 36:06Who's the guy?
- 36:08Devo could do uh, was that tank del tank del which you can't count on him coming back exactly, you know, so
- 36:16And then a tackle and then defensively they were pretty I mean now everyone could always use another
- 36:21Cornerback or a secondary guy, but I don't see I don't see like t hagen's going to the texans
- 36:25So I don't know if he would go there. No because he already have nico collins. So like he that you need you need the
- 36:31You need his um
- 36:34Not back up, I don't know what i'm trying to
- 36:37His batman to his robin. Yeah. Yeah his robin to his batman. But yeah, you know what i'm trying to say
- 36:42There's a word for it. I don't know why i'm blanking on it, but I feel like d would be a better fit than
- 36:47T higgins t higgins wants to be I mean he doesn't want to be the one so he's the one to see the most targets
- 36:52And if he goes to houston, I don't think he's gonna see the most targets
- 36:57You know or sharram and then he's back in the same scenario as in cincy
- 37:02Yeah, for sure for sure
- 37:04Uh, I mean if digs is healthy enough they could bring him back, but you can't count on that either
- 37:09You know digs is getting up there in age as well to come back from an injury
- 37:13So and who knows what he did to that locker room? Yeah, you know, maybe debos to play
- 37:17You know, maybe they really do need to go get them trade one diva. Uh, there's rumors that uh
- 37:23That ayuk could also be even after signing that deal last year that ayuk could be on the move because of money
- 37:29Yeah, you know, so who knows, you know, uh ayuk could be a guy for me
- 37:34That could end up again money. I don't know
- 37:38But sanfran might have to eat some of it for him to go to like somewhere like buffalo or something
- 37:42That could use another receiver
- 37:44But they're almost
- 37:46They need some pieces too. Yeah, I mean I see debo
- 37:50Definitely getting traded. I think before ayuk
- 37:53For sure. I mean already granting him permission. He's just gone at this point. It's just a matter of finding the suitor
- 37:59Yeah, and sanfrancisco needs to get younger. You know for sure
- 38:04And cheaper
- 38:05Especially it all depends what they do with brock brock is that one scenario like what are they going to sign them to 40 million dollars?
- 38:12I mean that changes their whole salary cap and the rest of their view of their team, you know
- 38:17um
- 38:18And I did san francisco's would you would you say san francisco's window has passed?
- 38:23No, yeah
- 38:25Yeah, and now with all the contract stuff. I 100 think their windows passed. Who else would you say a team?
- 38:31The their window would you say baltimore?
- 38:36I don't know
- 38:36I'm somehow still holding out hope for baltimore and i'm not a baltimore fan or anything and I don't have any good
- 38:41information to go off on that
- 38:45Or would you say the lions I I was just about to bring up the lions it's not closed
- 38:50Like I said, the lions are the favorite for me to win nfc north next year 100
- 38:55But like the packers are in a weird place. They're in trouble. Uh, the vikings are
- 39:01Clearly rebuilding and just got lucky last year in my opinion
- 39:04Uh skull vikes, uh, we're winning the super bowl next year though. Same thing. Do you think the packers need a number one receiver?
- 39:09two
- 39:11You don't think they have one right now. No. All right. They got a bunch of twos and yeah
- 39:15I think they got I think christian watson started showing up. I think he's
- 39:20Redeemed himself for me to become a 2a receiver, you know still at the I don't think the one that i'm talking about
- 39:27I don't even think he's a 1b for me. Like I don't think he's got it's just jalen reed probably
- 39:31Played no, I like reed. I like all their young receivers, but jalen reed to me is as good as nailer is for the vikings
- 39:39You know what I mean? So I gotcha. I like don tavian wakes. I would say reeds better than nailer
- 39:43But I like I like don tavian i would agree but I like don tavian you play the same role though
- 39:47Yeah, I gotcha, but I like don tavian wicks
- 39:50Um, they got two tight ends craft and uh, and romeo dobbs too and they oh, yeah. Okay romeo dobbs
- 39:56I think he's either close to the true one. He's also a 2a for me, but
- 40:04But does he have breakaway speed?
- 40:07I arguably I don't know if
- 40:09I don't know. I don't know. I mean because that's usually what you where they have money wise
- 40:13Oh, I think they're middle of the road middle of the road middle pack
- 40:19See, I think the package will do something goofy and go like go get deandre hopkins or something
- 40:23You know what I mean? Like which who I also see could or I'll go back to texans
- 40:28But see it but that would be a good move for the packers
- 40:31I think chris godwin because I think we were talking last week. We had higgins
- 40:36cup
- 40:37godwin
- 40:39marie cooper
- 40:40Kind of the d hop d hop kind of that or digs. I'd say digs is higher than d hop probably are your top five receivers
- 40:47I forget a marie cooper's out there. I still like a marie cooper. He's sneaky
- 40:50I think amari cooper and like washington would be
- 40:54I can see him going washington a like a veteran. He wants to go probably a winning team
- 40:58Well for sure, you know at this point in his career. All those receivers we just listed probably want to go to a
- 41:02Some sort of a winning team rather than chasing the money. Oh, higgins chasing money
- 41:06Well, he should yeah, he needs to get paid
- 41:08He needs to get that fat that fat payday and then after that maybe he'll be
- 41:13Godwin would be the interesting one. I think he's that in between. I think he he wants to get paid to
- 41:18and least go to a
- 41:20Contending team. I don't think he's a playoff team. Yeah
- 41:23Yeah, like I could see I could see him in houston. He'd be great in houston great slot receiver
- 41:30To go on the same side of nico collins take dig spot. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think he would be a uh,
- 41:37But the same thing he can't stay healthy. Yeah, that's as tough as part. So
- 41:42What like you always say best abilities availability. Yes, sir
- 41:45I actually think bud graham actually said that but i'll take it. Well, cool. Rob banter with the boys
- 41:52Uh, let's see coaching real quick before we just we just want to touch on the awards because there's just some funny things that
- 41:58Just make me giggle as a vikings fan that I want to share with everybody
- 42:03Uh, but anyway, tell me uh, yeah, I will don't worry. Uh, kellen moore though takes the saints head coaching job
- 42:08We knew that was gonna happen. Congratulations. After the super bowl happened. Um
- 42:12Um, yeah, good luck. Maybe maybe that's a good combination though him and derrick car
- 42:17No, I don't know that team's there. They're in trouble. They're
- 42:22They're old derrick car salaried this year's ridiculous one million dollars
- 42:27He's not worth one million the 15th best quarterback and then yeah, it's not
- 42:32Kirk cousins is gonna be available. No, i'm just kidding. That is true. I could put kirk cousins on any team in the league
- 42:37And other than like the you know, the big boys the chiefs baltimore and you know bills all the ones
- 42:42I already have the quarterbacks taken kirk needs to go somewhere with a running back
- 42:46A decent running back. He was just there. He was just there
- 42:51He had bijan and then and then and then the wheels fell off for him. He just started throwing picks and seeing ghosts
- 42:57True, you know he's done kirk. Nah, I think he gets one more deal
- 43:02It's gonna be somewhere like I was just thinking today where he could go
- 43:05I think it's gonna be somewhere like cleveland
- 43:08Um who really doesn't know what they're going to be doing at quarterback. Uh, I don't think the answer is jamis
- 43:14I love jamis, but I don't think they're gonna bring him back
- 43:17I don't think they want to roll with dtr, you know, so I think it's gonna
- 43:21Could be kirk cousins who was already rumored to get traded there at some point
- 43:25Um gosh, there's one other team. I thought about today too
- 43:29for kirk
- 43:30for uh
- 43:31for kirk
- 43:33Um, let me just think real quick. Any of the new york teams?
- 43:37Mm. Nah, I mean they both need one
- 43:41No, oh it was vegas. I thought about vegas. Vegas also needs a quarterback
- 43:45That's right. I think vegas will draft one
- 43:47But do they bring in kirk and then does kirk lose his job again to a rookie two years in a row?
- 43:53You know, I don't think vegas is having unless they move up in the draft
- 43:56I don't think they're having an opportunity at a quarterback actually. Where are they at? Six
- 44:01well
- 44:02So, but you don't know who's gonna fall like I think there's gonna be a fall who's sador is the only one that's gonna fall if anybody
- 44:09That's who i'm thinking is gonna fall. Okay, I think that's who vegas wants though. Okay, I think they like that fit
- 44:15Where do you think sam goes if he had to pick a team right now?
- 44:19There'd be another like for aaron rogers. Like you said, I think san francisco would be a perfect pick for sam darnold
- 44:24But I that again with the brock purdy thing. I don't think it's realistic. I think vegas i'm feeling vegas
- 44:29You think vegas see i'm thinking like I think he goes back to new york, but in a giant's uniform. It's that
- 44:36Or you and he back to new york, but in giants, you know, but what if?
- 44:41Who's the head coach? That'd be crazy. Who's the head coach now in vegas?
- 44:45Pete carroll, who's his old quarterback?
- 44:49Well russell wilson, so we thought I thought about that today too, but I was like do they want that reunion p carroll and russell wilson
- 44:56Yeah, maybe they had a divorce. That's what I mean. I can't remember how that went down
- 45:00So like somebody else brought that up in my chat today
- 45:04Uh, and I was like, I don't know
- 45:06I thought about it, you know, there's a lot of interesting ways that stuff could go. I don't know
- 45:11Uh, I know he's not gonna be in pittsburgh
- 45:15allegedly, so
- 45:17Uh, let's see. Uh, the other thing I just want to mention quick
- 45:20Let's see
- 45:22Not quick. We can touch on dings
- 45:24mvp josh allen, whatever I that was a crapshoot. There was a couple options
- 45:28I really think you could have made an argument for either lamar or him. Yeah
- 45:33Uh, this one seems or barkley actually barkley. I know that's what I mean. Uh, so I don't know
- 45:41You're right with any three any of the three. Yeah, you know, so uh coach of the year
- 45:47Koc scott lebow we knew that um
- 45:51Um lions fans are extremely upset about this d angelo. Are you upset about this d angelo? Are you upset about this?
- 45:58I hope he's lit either watching facebook live youtube or listening on spotify who went last year
- 46:05Oh
- 46:06Dan quinn no
- 46:09Not dan quinn that doesn't kevin's on it out there I can hear him clucking the ivory but people are upset
- 46:16uh
- 46:18Let's see kevin savanski. That's right for the for the browns
- 46:24That's weird now he's on 2022 brian dable, okay, so and he's on the hot seat like oh great. This is a bad trend
- 46:33My cradle got fired and he was 21
- 46:37This is not good. I don't know if we want to keep going back. Oh my god. Oh not good
- 46:41Good. How do you how do you want to as a viking? There's no way. Oh john harbaugh. Yeah, see
- 46:48Yeah, he's still there. All right, matt nagy
- 46:50So, okay, okay, so we not not a good track record for coach of the year
- 46:55But anyway lions fans are upset because they they think because that was the best record in lions franchise history
- 47:02And you know everything they dealt with which don't be wrong. They dealt with some injuries too
- 47:06Uh that dc dan campbell should be coach of the year blah blah blah
- 47:10uh my argument to that is
- 47:13You guys did everything that was expected of yourself. That's the thing
- 47:16Other than keep winning in the playoffs true. Um
- 47:20You know now 15 and 2 is crazy. I don't think that was expected of them
- 47:23I don't know what they were favored to win, but probably at least 13 plus, you know 14 plus even uh
- 47:29but
- 47:30Like what koc was able to do with sam donald is remarkable. Uh, I don't know if sam donald will repeat next year
- 47:37So so and the vikings were slated to win six games. Yeah and won 14
- 47:42And we're in it at the end of the season to win the division and get the one seat
- 47:47Did they get it? No, of course not. So again, that's another argument towards dan campbell for sure
- 47:52But like winning that big game at the end of the season
- 47:54But like you're saying it the lions were expected to a win the division
- 47:59In which they did
- 48:01There's an argument i'll give an argument for campbell that you know you could
- 48:05You know you could
- 48:07Say that he was a close 1a or 1b to that about like a guy like dan quinn
- 48:12Well, that's what I was also what they just made the wild card too
- 48:15So they were the nine and ten and seven I think they were sure taking a rookie quarterback to agree
- 48:20Which is a testament to cliff kingsbury too, but and obviously jay didn't know daniel's being the second worst team last year, right? So
- 48:28Yeah, like I did. Yeah, i'd almost go dan quinn actually if I if I had a vote i'd almost go him over dan campbell
- 48:34I still like the argument for koc. I agree just because we weren't expected to do it
- 48:38I also like the argument for sam darnold for comeback play of the year, which we'll touch on in a second. Okay
- 48:43but
- 48:44So there's that
- 48:46It's kind of like the mvp. You can make an argument. I think between a couple guys
- 48:50There's always going to be a couple that are close but for comeback player of the year joe burrow
- 48:56Getting it. Um
- 48:58I thought sam darnold could have made an argument for for that. I don't know
- 49:01I don't know who the finalists were I should have probably figured that out
- 49:05But yeah, but how do you like jk. Dobbins?
- 49:08Uh who actually got second?
- 49:10Who did have a good season for the chargers?
- 49:12He did but until it's the year out and then the playoffs it wasn't good
- 49:16Sam darnold got there damar hamlin again who did actually play a lot more this season for the bills
- 49:21We did you know everybody last year was like no you can't go yet
- 49:25He died but like he didn't play blah blah blah special teams only while he was playing yeah this year
- 49:30So I I like that argument this year and then christian free agent and then christian gonzalez
- 49:35I think he's a corner for pet the new england patriots. Yep
- 49:39um
- 49:40Must not uh, I wonder if he got injured last year. I can't remember but so we must I don't hate joe burrow over
- 49:47You know what I mean?
- 49:50And it's more fun named up give joe burrow award. Yeah. Well, I watch out for the bangles
- 49:55Uh, you calling it right now. I don't know about afc championship game, but I think they're back to the playoffs
- 50:01I think they're gonna be tough. Okay, the way they ended they're gonna ride that high for sure
- 50:05And I don't think they're losing a ton. No, I want you know, I think
- 50:10They even have a look. I think they're gonna be are they a middle of the road team on the salary stuff?
- 50:14Do you remember i think they're in the top third?
- 50:17Okay. Yeah, so I think they could make some moves even losing t higgins, you know
- 50:21Make some smaller moves kind of like what the vikes did bang ginkle the cashmans stuff like that. You know, it was a bigger one but
- 50:29um
- 50:30Let's see ovens player of the year sae kwon
- 50:33Lamar jackson jamar chase derrick henry joe burrow. I don't think that's an argument right there
- 50:39We all knew that would happen defense a player of the year patrick certain
- 50:43Who is the nfc?
- 50:45Um, gernard van winkle van dingle
- 50:52Bang ginkle
- 50:55Let's see
- 50:56Do you have it player that that was just because we were debating that was just overall defensive player of the year
- 51:01Oh, maybe they don't have an nfc afici who we were talking about earlier this year
- 51:06uh offensive record here jayden daniels
- 51:08I think defense of well, we were talking about defensive player of the year just because mainly all the
- 51:13Uh nfc defensive players that are all the studs got hurt right, you know hutch got hurt literally. Um
- 51:20They were all the finalists were all afici. Okay, uh
- 51:24offensive rick of the year jayden daniels the only
- 51:27So i've seen some people upset that bow next day and get the nod there. But come on meow. Yeah, I know
- 51:33Uh defensive rookie of the year jared verse
- 51:36That dude was a monster. He was a beast old seminal right there florida state
- 51:39um, let's see
- 51:43The moment of the year if you will
- 51:46What's the moment of the year jayden daniels came winning hail mary thrill versus the bears?
- 51:51Was that when the bears db was?
- 51:54Looking in the field. Yeah
- 51:56And then he runs over and tips it to the guy tips it. Oh my god
- 51:59And then they didn't win a game the rest of the year
- 52:02Well, I was I always loved this one walter payton nfl man of the year eric armstead jaguars d limon
- 52:07Yeah, I did see they get I think they gifted him that at the super bowl
- 52:10Uh, and they also mentioned these fellas the hall of fame class 2025 eric allen jared allen antonio gait sterling sharp
- 52:20and
- 52:21That's the only four on the list. Oh, there's no jared. Oh, you're dead. Yeah jared allen. I said i'm after eric allen
- 52:27I did it fast. Yeah, but yeah jared allen
- 52:29I was trying to think they were talking about who's got snubbed out of that
- 52:34um
- 52:36List I can there was one main one that kind of yeah one. Yeah
- 52:42Uh, I guess I researched everything else besides that today
- 52:46Yeah, whatever lots of awards all good
- 52:52But it was overall great season it was fun there was a lot of you know top end teams
- 52:58um
- 53:00That did what they were supposed to do there was a couple surprises redskins or the commanders. That's probably the five fifth time
- 53:07I said that this year. Oh, well, um
- 53:10Who also has a surprise team you thought for?
- 53:12This year's prize team this year the chargers vikings obviously the vikings the chargers
- 53:18Was more of a surprise that they bounced back so fast
- 53:20But let's see if they can build on any of that denver see if jk. Dobbins that was a surprise
- 53:26um
- 53:27Because the best especially with bow nix and sean payton didn't look like they're clicking early on in the season
- 53:32Yeah, but then they must have figured it out because then all of a sudden he was lighting it up
- 53:35So that kind of concerns me. Uh, we've seen sean payton with a good quarterback before so
- 53:41um
- 53:42Denver needs a running back
- 53:44They do I think there's a lot of teams that are going to draft run
- 53:46I think again this season like we've stated all year the derrick henry the sequon barkley watching the college genti
- 53:53You know running backs are back and we'll i'm curious how many get drafted in the first two rounds
- 53:58Well, look at the four teams that remained in this, you know to go to the super bowl. You had the bills james cook. Yeah
- 54:05ravens henry
- 54:07eagles barkley
- 54:09And then you got the chiefs and I mean I wouldn't say pacheco is a let's say pacheco
- 54:14Comboed with cream hunt because cream started coming on strong late, but still what's still they all had come they all had
- 54:21a probable level running backs
- 54:25You know, so it's kind of interesting. We've been talking about all year. This is like the the return of the running backs
- 54:30Okay, so before we end this show then vikings. This is our viking stock. So if you're not vikings fan, whatever I guess whatever
- 54:37Uh dom says
- 54:40Yo, yo fellas, what up dom. Hey dom. What do the vikings need to do?
- 54:45Here this off season. What are you looking for them to do? What's your question? Like the the
- 54:49Uh, who do they need to draft? Yeah, the vikings, you know their first pick do they go?
- 54:56Um, i'm gonna throw that on there for the last five minutes if I can
- 55:00I don't know if it launched. Maybe it did launch there. I did. There it is. All right, boom
- 55:04There you can vote on there. We threw up a little
- 55:07You can do the vikings draft offense or defense first
- 55:10Uh in the first round because right now they have a first round pick and what did you say two fifths two fifths?
- 55:15so
- 55:16my feeling if gentry falls or uh,
- 55:21I don't know if I want to say okay how he's not falling to the vikes though
- 55:25I mean, you never know everyone always falls
- 55:27But I think the hype's gonna be too big on him and everyone there's enough teams that like 24 right there 24
- 55:33I think I have gentry probably about 16 is where I think I have them kind of going
- 55:38Um, allegedly the bears could take them at 10. He's favored there a lot
- 55:41Yeah, but they need a tackle they need a lot they need a they need a lot
- 55:47They have their left tackle. I think is their only guy they really want the other four could all be replaced
- 55:53um
- 55:54but they have a
- 55:56trayvon
- 55:57Henderson from ohio state. I really like to um, but honestly if we could trade back to get a couple twos
- 56:04That's what i'm saying or two and two threes like I think that's a better move for us because we have so many gaps to fill
- 56:10Um, but us with 60s a some odd million left in salary cap
- 56:15Um, I think we could be lost too. We could be very aggressive and fill a lot of those gaps
- 56:19But we need we need a lot of caps filled. That's the problem on the offensive side, you know
- 56:24A guard I want to keep we got bradbury on contract for one more year
- 56:28Most people want to get rid of him, but i'd rather replace one of the guards
- 56:33And then bradbury still be good enough. We need a running back
- 56:37For sure whether we do that free agency a slot
- 56:41Receiver would be nice
- 56:43Defensively, I think receiver is pretty low on our list true
- 56:46I would agree it is probably like six on the list and I'd imagine josh oliver is set to be a free agent for us
- 56:52Right. I don't know actually because
- 56:56What if I don't know if your buddy brought it up last time we went live
- 57:01Um, but what if we traded tj?
- 57:03Tj hawkinson away for some draft capital
- 57:07Keep the first or trade still trade back. Maybe get some seconds and thirds maybe but
- 57:12I just don't see I don't think there's that value you get out of a
- 57:17Seven eight year vet in the nfl. That's where he's probably at now, isn't he?
- 57:2420 I think it's 27 28. I mean he's been I mean he did a
- 57:28A full three four years and I mean arguably he was top three tight end in the league and then this year obviously started
- 57:37unhealthy the first half of the season and he never
- 57:40It was really off here. Like he never really gained any ground this season. So he needs a rebound season next year, but
- 57:47And his contract's high. I just don't see him somebody taking a shot to one tradeable. Yeah
- 57:52um
- 57:54There's a really fun, uh tight end in the draft. It's your warner out of uh,
- 57:58penn state
- 58:00He's gonna be well, and that's what I mean though trade tj if you could
- 58:04Get a couple picks and you have to take a tight end with one of them
- 58:07You know, but I think with warner and loveland out of michigan are the kind of the top two tight ends in the draft this year
- 58:15So i'm staring away too much draft. This is crazy
- 58:17This person on x has the viking starting lineup next year. Aaron rogers, aaron jones
- 58:22jj jordan adison davante adams tj hawkinson
- 58:26deris uh
- 58:28Tyler booker left guard don't know where he's out of he's the alabama
- 58:32Um, so that's the draft then uh drew dolman center
- 58:36uh
- 58:37alana
- 58:39Is he free agent? Yep. I didn't okay. Uh the the right the guard out of um philly and then brian o'neil
- 58:47um
- 58:48Bek ta. Oh, yeah beckon. Yeah
- 58:53It could all happen
- 58:56But I don't think that's a very scary offense to me. I mean, yeah jj and jordan adison but
- 59:01like
- 59:02Putting everything on aaron rogers and aaron jones. Yeah. Oh god
- 59:07Coming here for a dollar. Yeah, um, but she
- 59:11How much of a discount do you think somebody like aaron rogers takes to go sign with anybody and not just vikes?
- 59:16But I think a minimum 20
- 59:1920 mil for one year deal. Yep
- 59:21I think that's what he'd demand like he'd play for anything less
- 59:24That's at any point in his career because what is he 38 years old right now? Yeah, right older than that
- 59:29What am I talking about? I bet
- 59:31But he's not gonna go and take less money in like 41 geno smith
- 59:37You know
- 59:39So but on the defensive side, we need probably some we need definitely interior
- 59:43Interior linebackers were good and then secondary. Yeah losing bollard and tillery
- 59:48Interior right now. Yeah pass rogers
- 59:51There's a handful of good safeties. Uh, um
- 59:56I'm high on jv on holland if we don't bring back cambynum. You got holland out of the from the dolphins and then you have
- 1:00:02Sparks or starks he's gonna be from georgia. He's gonna be probably one of the top
- 1:00:08Um safeties off the board. Yeah, i'm scared to take safety now
- 1:00:11I got a ptsd take a scene. Yeah pass over kyle hamilton to take louis yeah, we did pass over no
- 1:00:17He went early, but we could have had him. Um
- 1:00:21But louisine just won a super bowl. I know
- 1:00:24I know and then harrison smith like who knows and then all of our corners are all gone
- 1:00:29Like we've predicted we'll probably overpay for byron murphy to keep him here two three-year deal
- 1:00:34Whatever and then we got blackman coming back off of injury
- 1:00:37Well, let's hope he's good to go. Otherwise, we probably got to use one of those fifth rounders on a corner
- 1:00:42Yeah, I don't know if remember if we all remember like during the preseason, you know, it's scrambling to get cornerbacks. Oh, yeah
- 1:00:48You know, yeah shak griffin and uh gilmer were late late additions both of them. Yeah, so
- 1:00:54Uh, I don't expect either one of them back, but we have to keep murphy probably at this point
- 1:00:59Well, it's like that is him and matelas would be like the only return
- 1:01:02I mean if either of those if griffin or her or uh gilmore return
- 1:01:08We're back to we're almost where we were last year
- 1:01:11Uh, if one of them returns we're in trouble like unless they want to just play the nickel whatever I guess if we can have uh
- 1:01:18if blackman's
- 1:01:19Can be a number two corner for us and we're okay having
- 1:01:23One b byron murphy be our number one corner arguably maybe two a yeah, I want dj reed out of the jets
- 1:01:30That's who I want the viking he's a free agent. He's rated. So you put really if you got holland and reed I think
- 1:01:37And make me feel better then you fill in the gaps
- 1:01:39I think I know I could be completely wrong on holland, but I think he would fit I think and he's already played for flores before
- 1:01:45You know, I mean like I I think they just
- 1:01:47It's like van ginkgo coming here. You know, the fit is too perfect
- 1:01:51So we'll see and miami has got a little solid crap issues, too
- 1:01:54So we'll see who they dump on that defensive side, too
- 1:01:57You might be in another easy pickup for the vikes, but yeah with the money that they have but I mean, that's it man
- 1:02:04It was it that's the season. It was a good season, brother
- 1:02:07We didn't win the super wall this year, but we uh, we felt like we had a chip in a chair there for a minute
- 1:02:12But 25 26 seasons skull to the bowl building it back up, baby. Here we go already building already already looking forward
- 1:02:19We're gonna have a great draft somehow magically. Yeah, um
- 1:02:22maybe jj mccarthy maybe
- 1:02:24Daniel jones russell wilson aron rogers. We're saying lots of things, but we got all off season to figure that out. But uh, as always
- 1:02:33Appreciate you being here rob. Thanks for having me. Yeah my first year on
- 1:02:36I thought it was great. It's better than me
- 1:02:39Better than maybe we'll relegate me. Maybe we should look at that
- 1:02:43But well, that puts all the pressure on me then I have to really perform perfect. Maybe i'll do better than that
- 1:02:48Um, but anyway, thanks kev as always putting the thing together running both of our shows fast laps formula one coming up in march
- 1:02:56Uh, look forward to that as the new season kicks off there look for our draft episode which will come
- 1:03:02Uh in the near future for gridiron updates as well. Yep
- 1:03:06Uh, don't forget to get your four pack of cappies
- 1:03:10Uh on amazon whoop
- 1:03:12For your next event, uh to not only help open the cans
- 1:03:16But also cover them and keep the mosquitoes or anything I guess undesirable out of them
- 1:03:22Yes, sir. But it was fun. I'm excited. Yeah
- 1:03:25Um, i'm also excited for some summer. Yeah. No, I hear you. We're we need the warm other here. But with that
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