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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm
- 0:03your host, Bobby Capuci, and this is a morning update. Hey,
- 0:09what's up everybody, and welcome to the program. This morning,
- 0:14we're gonna dive right back into the Leon Black situation,
- 0:17and we're going to talk about a developing situation at
- 0:21the Museum of Modern Art in regards to Leon Black's
- 0:26position within their organization. There is a showdown coming, according
- 0:33to a new article from The Daily Beast and Kate Bricklett.
- 0:38So we're going to dive into this article and we're
- 0:41gonna see what Kate and The Daily Beast has to
- 0:45say about Leon Black and the Museum of Modern Art.
- 0:51Headline MoMA braces for a showdown over Epstein pal Leon Black.
- 0:58This article was authored by Kate Bricklett and Lachlan Cartwright.
- 1:03So we know that this was a train coming down
- 1:08the tracks at MoMA. We know that they were going
- 1:11to have to answer for Leon Black's affiliation with them
- 1:16in regards to his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and up
- 1:21until recently, they've been able to really avoid any let's
- 1:26say serious backlash, but now, especially in light of the
- 1:31fact that Leon Black is stepping down early from Apollo Global.
- 1:36There is a significant amount of pressure being put on
- 1:42MoMA now to make the same decision and get rid
- 1:45of Leon Black. But as we've discussed previously, Leon Black
- 1:51is a huge, huge donor to the museum, and let's
- 1:56be real, they don't want to lose access to his art.
- 1:58That's really what it comes down to do. I know
- 2:01that's pathetic and disturbing for you know, those of us
- 2:05who are you know, normal human beings. But for them,
- 2:09remember the means always justifies the ends. Pressure is building
- 2:16on private equity billionaire Leon Black to resign as chairman
- 2:19of the Museum of Modern Art ahead of a crucial
- 2:22board meeting next week, as his ties to deceased sex
- 2:25trafficker Jeffrey Epstein continue to haunt him. Yeah, the pressure
- 2:30really is on, and it's not only internal pressure obviously,
- 2:35there's a lot of external pressure being used right now
- 2:39to try and make it so that Leon Black does
- 2:43in fact vacate this seat. It is I don't understand
- 2:47how he or anyone else could think it's a good
- 2:49idea for him to remain in this position. There is
- 2:54just too much nuclear of fallout clinging to him. Especially
- 2:59when you look at everything in context. This guy gave
- 3:04that a majority of the money to Epstein after Epstein's
- 3:07initial arrest. Folks, you know what have I said from
- 3:10the beginning. If you were hanging out with Epstein before
- 3:13he got arrested, at the very least you have a
- 3:15defense that you can attempt to make, right, Oh, I
- 3:17didn't know. He wasn't even arrested yet. What are you
- 3:19talking about now? We might not buy that, BS, but
- 3:23at least you can make that attempt after his arrest.
- 3:26There's really no situation where you can say, oh, yeah,
- 3:33well I didn't know what Jeffrey Epstein was, Yes, you did.
- 3:35He was arrested, he went to prison, he served time
- 3:38for what he did, and you still chose to hang
- 3:40out with him. You still chose to do business with him.
- 3:45So I don't know how any of these people, frankly,
- 3:50who are hanging out with Epstein after the arrest, think
- 3:52that that is going to work. Fever discussion about Blacks
- 3:59possible to archer from MoMA comes a day after Black
- 4:02would Apollo Global Management, the four hundred and fifty five
- 4:05billion dollar firm he co founded in nineteen ninety. An
- 4:09internal review revealed Black paid the sex offender more than
- 4:13one hundred and fifty million dollars from twenty twelve to
- 4:17twenty and seventeen, three times higher than what was initially reported.
- 4:22The report found no evidence that Black knew, knew of,
- 4:25or participated in Epstein's sexual abuse of girls and young women.
- 4:29Now I've never made that leap. I know some people might,
- 4:34but out here on this podcast, the financial ties that
- 4:40bind Epstein and Leon Black are enough, all right, the
- 4:47business ties between them. The fact that, as the article
- 4:51just stated here, three times the amount of money that
- 4:54was initially stated was really sent to Epstein. That's what
- 4:59needs to be investigated with these people. Why was this
- 5:02money being sent to an offshore Why was this money
- 5:06being sent to Epstein in the first place. Oh, it's
- 5:09fine and well that Leon Black comes out and says, oh,
- 5:12it was for advice. But we're just supposed to take
- 5:14you at your word. Why should we believe you when
- 5:17you've already started this whole thing off by lying about
- 5:20the amount of money in the first place. And if
- 5:24your own paid for internal investigation uncovered that, can you
- 5:27imagine what a really, what a real independent investigation would uncover.
- 5:35But that same review found that Black and Epstein were
- 5:38unusually close bound by a series of personal and professional
- 5:42connections stretching back decades. Black loaned Epstein thirty million dollars
- 5:47in early twenty seventeen, only ten million of which was
- 5:51paid back. So let me get this straight. You make
- 5:54a loan of thirty million dollars to somebody, right, and
- 5:57they only give you ten million dollars back of that loan.
- 6:00You don't freak out, you don't press the issue. You don't.
- 6:06So from where I'm sitting, I doubt it was alone.
- 6:09What was that money really for? Black once flew on
- 6:15Epstein's private plane, the so called Lolita Express, and visited
- 6:19Epstein's ranch in Stanley, New Mexico, and his private Caribbean
- 6:23island where Epstein's survivors were trafficked and abused. So it
- 6:28should come as no shock that Leon Black was hanging
- 6:32out at Zoro Ranch. And again, we need to know
- 6:37more about what occurred at Zoro Ranch, full stop, no
- 6:42bs and around, no hiding the truth. We need a
- 6:47full accounting of what occurred in Zoro Ranch, at Zoro
- 6:51Ranch and the surrounding properties. The local authorities are not
- 6:55interested if they were, they'd have their own investigation going
- 6:58right now. They don't need the Fed to draw a
- 7:01warren and kicking that door. All they need is probable cause.
- 7:06But then again, when you're in Bill Richardson's New Mexico,
- 7:11well you know, the game certainly is tilted. He also
- 7:17spent time with Epstein in Florida and in France, and
- 7:20they socialized in New York, often over breakfast. Black funded
- 7:25Epstein's favorite researchers at MIT and Harvard, and he gave
- 7:28ten million dollars to Epstein's secret charity. Secret charity? Again,
- 7:33why do you need a secret charity? And furthermore, why
- 7:36is Leon Black one of the most powerful men on
- 7:38Wall Street giving money to a secret charity in the
- 7:43first place. You would think that a guy like Leon
- 7:47Black would just call up his accountant and be like, hey, look,
- 7:50I'm gonna need you to wire ten million over to
- 7:52so and so for this charity. Why all the secret
- 7:56the secretiveness, Why all of the operating in darkness, Why
- 8:01using all of these offshore companies? What's the deal? Black
- 8:06confided in Epstein on personal matters, and Black introduced Epstein
- 8:09to his family. The report found so right away that
- 8:14automatically should give anyone pause who thinks that there was
- 8:18no relationship here. You don't introduce people to your family
- 8:21if you're not close friends or at the very least friends, right,
- 8:24You don't just bring acquaintances around your family or your
- 8:27children or anything like that. Not these people anyway, It's
- 8:30a very small circle. So please for Black to act
- 8:36like him and Epstein weren't close or it wasn't a
- 8:39real like a real friendship or something, it's just ludicrous.
- 8:45Black stated that he was repulsed by the details of
- 8:48Epstein's crimes that were published in late twenty and eighteen.
- 8:51By then, those crimes were well and widely known. Epstein's
- 8:56pyramid abuse scheme had been the stuff of headline since
- 8:59two and the legal battles between Epstein's associates, his survivors,
- 9:04and Epstein himself had dragged on in public view for years.
- 9:09And again, I've been saying this for a long time.
- 9:11How could any of these people act like they don't know?
- 9:15You know, these are people that are watching the news
- 9:17on a daily basis, right They're watching the stock report,
- 9:20They're watching you know, they're trying to get an edge
- 9:22anyway that they possibly can. So for Leon Black to
- 9:26act like he had no idea about Jeffrey Epstein or
- 9:29what people were talking about or what was alleged to
- 9:32have taken place, it's he really must believe that people
- 9:36are stupid. Honestly, Black denies any involvement in Epstein's trafficking ring.
- 9:43In October, he told shareholders on an earnings call that
- 9:46paling around with Epstein after his two thousand and eight
- 9:49conviction for soliciting a minor in Florida was a terrible mistake.
- 9:53Oh yeah, terrible mistake is an understatement, Okay, Absolutely, that
- 10:00you would be giving this dude this kind of credibility
- 10:03and helping refurbish his image by hanging out with him,
- 10:07And that's what you were doing, Leon Black, That's exactly
- 10:09what you were doing. Let me be clear, Black said,
- 10:14what is he? Barack Obama? All of a sudden, There
- 10:17has never been an allegation by anyone that I engaged
- 10:20in any wrongdoing, because I did not, And any suggestion
- 10:24of blackmail or any other connection to Epstein's reprehensible conduct
- 10:28is categorically untrue. Okay, So what's the million the hundreds
- 10:32of millions of dollars for mister Black. Now, I know
- 10:36there's a lot of people that want to make a
- 10:37lot of big leaps here and you know, one way
- 10:39or the other. But for me, I you know, I'm
- 10:43asking the question what was the money for? And I
- 10:46don't want to hear about Oh, it was for advice. Okay,
- 10:49there's no advice on this planet worth one hundred and
- 10:51fifty eight million dollars, folks. Black previously announced he was
- 10:57stepping down as CEO of Apollo and he'd hand the
- 11:00reins to co founder Mark Rowan on or before July
- 11:04thirty first, But on Monday, Apollo said the sixty nine
- 11:07year old Wall Street mogul and art collector quit earlier
- 11:10than scheduled and had also relinquished his role as chairman.
- 11:16So we covered that yesterday, the Leon Black situation, him
- 11:20stepping down. We knew the writing was on the wall,
- 11:23but I certainly didn't expect him to step down before July,
- 11:26like he said he was going to. That came as
- 11:28a surprise, no doubt about it. In a statement, Black
- 11:33said he planned to spend more time with his family
- 11:36and focus on his health and other passions like art
- 11:40and time is precious. Black said, my wife, Deborah, lost
- 11:44a close family member to the pandemic and faces considerable
- 11:47health challenges. I intend to address my own health issues
- 11:51and take some personal time to pursue my many interests
- 11:53away from Apollo, including the arts, culture, medical research, and philanthropy.
- 11:59Oh that must must be nice, huh. I'm gonna take
- 12:02a step away amidst all of this chaos and all
- 12:05of this fallout from my relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and
- 12:08I'm just gonna focus on my art as if anybody
- 12:11in the art community is not gonna look at you
- 12:13sideways now. Now, Black may lose one of his high
- 12:18profile positions in the art world, the MoMA chairmanship he's
- 12:22held since twenty eighteen. That year, Black donated forty million
- 12:27to the museum and had two floors of its film
- 12:30center named after him and his wife. You see, money talks, folks.
- 12:34If this was just a regular cat, a regular dude,
- 12:38then he would have been jettisoned from history at MoMA.
- 12:43They would have expunged his name from everything. But considering
- 12:47the fact that this dude is a walking cash cow,
- 12:50considering the fact that they all have their hands in
- 12:52this dude's pocket, well he's given different treatment. Right, Oh, well,
- 12:57we'll have to look at it. We'll take a look
- 12:59at his behavior. We'll take a look at his behavior.
- 13:02Whereas we're in a situation now in the world where
- 13:06people get fired over tweets, never mind paling around with
- 13:09Jeffrey Effing Epstein. A rep for Black declined to comment.
- 13:15MoMA did not respond to multiple requests for comment. Still,
- 13:19the museum looks likely to address Black's future on the
- 13:22board in its next meeting, scheduled for March thirtieth. Pretty
- 13:26interested to see how that goes, Honestly, I mean, the
- 13:29rubber's gonna meet the road, right. It really comes down
- 13:32to the basic question of does MoMA care or don't they.
- 13:38None of MoMA's nearly eighty officers and trustees would speak
- 13:41about Black on the record, though several said they supported
- 13:44him and viewed his relationship to Epstein strictly as business.
- 13:49Of course they do, of course they do, fellow travelers,
- 13:51And all right again, folks, remember in this world where
- 13:55Epstein was accepted, and where Epstein was vada to such
- 14:00a high level, the only crime is to be broke.
- 14:07Black was among a litany of high powered people to
- 14:09associate with Epstein, One member told The Daily Beast, It's
- 14:13obvious to me people used Epstein, not the least of
- 14:16which has ways to meet other people, and people did
- 14:19do business with him. Ergo Leon, of course they did. Well,
- 14:23you don't think Leon Black ever introduced anyone to Jeffrey
- 14:26Epstein and those people got into business with Epstein, you know,
- 14:29Black's friends and whatnot. Of course they did. Now will
- 14:32any of that ever be unearthed? Who knows? Who knows?
- 14:35But logic says that they're sitting around they're this friendly
- 14:38n if Epstein's this great money guy. You really don't
- 14:41think Leon Black is going to direct anyone else towards him.
- 14:51Another trustee, however, told The Daily Beast they were troubled
- 14:55by Black's decades long friendship and ties with a sexual predator.
- 15:00People who feel strongly, but there has not been a
- 15:02forum for people to express their thoughts yet, the person said,
- 15:06referring to the museum's decision to twice postpone it's board
- 15:09meeting since February. What why are you postponing it? I
- 15:13get it, They'll say it's COVID. I understand, I know,
- 15:16I know. The COVID is making you postpone your board meeting.
- 15:19In reality, they're still trying to figure out what's going
- 15:21on with Leon Black, that's my guess anyway. And now
- 15:26with this March thirtieth board meeting coming up, they're gonna
- 15:30have to make a decision one way or the other.
- 15:38Asked if they were bothered by the chairman's association with Epstein,
- 15:41the trustee added, of course it disturbs me. I have
- 15:44a conscience, and I have children. Yeah, look, it should
- 15:47disturb anybody. Honestly, you know, I children are not. It's
- 15:51just I don't even understand how anyone could look at
- 15:54this and be like, oh, yeah, that's just typical business.
- 15:56No big deal, No deeper look is warranted here. Last week,
- 16:03The New York Post revealed a number of MoMA trustees
- 16:06had contacted Black about resigning once his term ends on
- 16:09July first. The report indicated the billionaire could rescind the
- 16:13museum's access to his vast art holdings, including Edward Munch's
- 16:17The Scream, should he leave the board altogether. Remember, if
- 16:22MoMA kicks out Black, they lose a chance at his
- 16:24personal art collection. One source told the Post, I mean,
- 16:29is his art collection really that awesome. I'm sure it's
- 16:33great in all, but there's no other pieces of art
- 16:35that could be gathered from elsewhere, from other collectors and
- 16:39put in those spots. The Black's collection, said to be
- 16:44valued at one billion, also includes Head of a Young Apostle,
- 16:47a chalk drawing by Raphael purchased for forty eight million,
- 16:51the one hundred and six million dollar Picasso sculpture Bust
- 16:54of a Woman, and the twenty seven million dollar Constantine
- 16:58BRONCUSI sculpture in Space, which is on display at MoMA.
- 17:02Pocket change. Folks, imagine we're talking. Let's see forty eight million,
- 17:07one hundred and six million, twenty seven million, ah cool
- 17:11one hundred and seventy plus, no big deal pocket change.
- 17:16Calls for Black's ouster have included a petition signed by
- 17:19a phalanx of prominent artists, including Nan Golden and Xavier Simmons,
- 17:24who demanded MoMA boot Black over his links to Epstein.
- 17:28We as artists and art workers, support the removal of
- 17:31Leon Black from the board of MoMA for reasons that
- 17:34have already been stated by many others. However, this should
- 17:38be considered the bare minimum, the group said in a statement,
- 17:42and I think that's pretty powerful, right. I think it's
- 17:45time for the people that work inside of these organizations
- 17:49to stand up and start doing a little bit of
- 17:51house cleaning. And as an artist and somebody who's represented
- 17:55by the MoMA and somebody who might have their art there,
- 17:58why would you want to be a social shiated with
- 18:00anything like this? I know I wouldn't be. I know
- 18:02if my art was in this place, I'd be demanding
- 18:05this guy step down as well, or at the very
- 18:08least he could clean this all up. Go speak to
- 18:12the FBI under oath. Go speak with the FBI under oath.
- 18:20One of the signatories, Guerrilla Girls, the anonymous feminist art collective,
- 18:25said it terminated its book contract with Faden Press in
- 18:27twenty nineteen because it's owned by Black. They said, MoMA
- 18:32shit acts not only Black, but fellow trustee Glenn Dubin,
- 18:35a billionaire whose family has long standing ties to Epstein,
- 18:39and whom Virginia Roberts, a survivor of Epstein's sex ring,
- 18:43accused of abuse. For sure, Glenn Dubin hasn't been talked
- 18:47about much lately, But don't worry. We'll be getting back
- 18:51to Glenn Dubin. But He's another one of these people
- 18:54that breathe this so called rarefied air who has avoided
- 19:00any sort of real scrutiny over this. Now, don't get
- 19:03me wrong, there's been some articles posted and he's had
- 19:05to take a step back from his business as well.
- 19:08But according to what Virginia has to say, and to
- 19:12some other reports, especially concerning that fifteen year old Swedish
- 19:16girl in his kitchen, I would say that a more
- 19:19expansive investigation is called for. Robert, says Epstein and his
- 19:26alleged accomplice, Gilain Maxwell, kept her as a sex slave
- 19:30and sent her to powerful men, including Britain's Prince Andrew,
- 19:33Glenn Dubin, and former New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. All
- 19:37three of the men have denied Robert's accusations. Oh, they
- 19:41certainly have, but pretty generic denials. We haven't really seen
- 19:47anything to back up what these guys are saying, especially
- 19:52in Prince Andrew's case. Seems like every time he opens
- 19:55his mouth or one of his representatives open their mouth,
- 19:58the hole gets bigger for him. We were outraged by
- 20:05black silence about his relationship to a known pedophile, Grilla
- 20:08Girl said in a prior statement, So we put up
- 20:11a message outside MoMA demanding the museum kick Black off
- 20:14its board, along with Epstein pal Glen Dubin, and tell
- 20:18the world why it was the least moment could do
- 20:21for victims of sexual assault everywhere. I don't disagree, right,
- 20:25I do not disagree. All of these people are of
- 20:28ill repute, and none of these people should be representing
- 20:32a museum like this that should be an inclusive place
- 20:34where people feel comfortable going to check out art. It
- 20:38shouldn't be a place where people feel bad about themselves
- 20:40if they go in there because this place is tainted
- 20:43by Leon Black or Glenn Dubin. Just remove those idiots.
- 20:48I'm sure there's other rich people that are probably still criminals,
- 20:51but maybe not pedophiles, at least that you can get
- 20:54to fill that gap. No, the Art group said, how
- 21:01could Black, a shrewd businessman and guy around town, not
- 21:04have known as money subsidized Epstein's elaborate lifestyle, enabling Epstein
- 21:09to continue abusing and trafficking underage girls right up to
- 21:13his suspicious death in twenty nineteen. Was Black implicit in
- 21:17Epstein's crimes? Yo, the Gorilla Girls are unchained with this right.
- 21:21Good for them, Good for them standing up to these
- 21:24people and asking the hard questions, you know, the questions
- 21:27that the legacy media should be asking. But they don't.
- 21:32They have no, they don't have the stomach for it. Right.
- 21:35They'd prefer to have their political battles, their little tribalism,
- 21:39playing an all a take an all or nothing stakes
- 21:43game of Lord of the Flies. Why does MoMA tolerate
- 21:48people like Black and d but on its board Gorilla
- 21:51Girls added, if we're stuck with a system where our
- 21:54tax exempt educational institutions have to depend on money from
- 21:58the super rich, they should have at least choose donors
- 22:01who make the world a better not a worse place.
- 22:04I mean, is that really too much to ask? Is
- 22:06that too much to ask to vet your donors and
- 22:09to make sure they're not pedophiles and human traffickers. I
- 22:12guess that's too much to ask. Black has been under
- 22:17fire in the press for his ties to Epstein since
- 22:20July twenty nineteen, when Manhattan federal prosecutors charged the sixty
- 22:25six year old financier pedophile with exploiting girls as young
- 22:29as fourteen from two thousand and two to two thousand
- 22:32and five, and the media firestorm didn't fade after Epstein
- 22:36killed himself in jail one month later, Allegedly their relationship
- 22:42is also being investigated by at least one government official,
- 22:46Denise M. George, the Attorney General for the US Virgin Islands,
- 22:49who subpoenaed Black as part of her civil racketeering lawsuit
- 22:52against Epstein's estate and companies. And I'm really interested to
- 22:57see where all of that goes, if it goes anywhere. Now, Remember,
- 23:02I am of the opinion that all of these enablers
- 23:05are gonna find a way to walk on this. None
- 23:06of these people are gonna end up feeling the bite
- 23:10of the law. And it's sad because these people have
- 23:15very deep, at the very least financial ties to Epstein,
- 23:18and they enriched themselves off of his ill gotten gains.
- 23:22So they should all be part of a conspiracy case.
- 23:25They should all be part of a huge, gigantic RICO case.
- 23:29But time is taking folks. What's the federal government doing?
- 23:33Where's the Rico case? Where's the Rico charges? George is
- 23:43also subpoena Duben for all communications relating to Epstein and
- 23:47Dubin's three children, along with records relating to a Swedish
- 23:51girl who traveled with Epstein. That's the little fifteen year
- 23:55old girl we always talk about and nobody, You know,
- 23:57I shouldn't say nobody, because I can't speak for anybody
- 24:00body else but me and myself. I have a lot
- 24:02of questions about this girl, her identity, and whatever happened
- 24:06to her. That story was gut wrenching, crying in the
- 24:10in the kitchen, about the the the island, being trapped
- 24:13on that island, and then taking her passport, and just
- 24:17a whole disturbing, disturbing chapter of this story. Shortly after
- 24:23Epstein's New York indictment, Black sent an email to Apollo
- 24:27employee's addressing concerns about his relationship with the money manager.
- 24:32I was completely unaware of and am deeply troubled by
- 24:35the conduct that is now the subject of the federal
- 24:38criminal charges brought against him. Black wrote, Oh, now you're
- 24:42now hot, Now you have a problem with it, Now
- 24:45you're disgusted. Give me a break, okay, Leon Black. You
- 24:52knew what Jeffrey Epstein was, you knew what sort of
- 24:54monstery was, and you thought that you folks would never
- 24:58have to answer for it. Because Jeffrey was never gonna
- 25:01get caught again. That's what you all thought. At the
- 25:06same time, report surface that Black had donated ten million
- 25:09to the financier pedophiles secret foundation Gratitude America Ltd. In
- 25:14twenty fifteen using a shell company called BV seventy LLC.
- 25:19Oh the shell companies, Oh, the offshore money. Oh, the
- 25:24lifeblood of money laundering. And for all of you listening
- 25:30to the podcast, well you already know how this works
- 25:33because we have blayed out the groundwork. And this is
- 25:37the reason I have spent so much time on the
- 25:40financial aspect of this. All of these people are connected,
- 25:45and if this case was being prosecuted the way it
- 25:47should be by the federal government, then all of these
- 25:50people involved would be subpoenaed and would be subject to
- 25:53criminal liability via their involvement with a money laundering operation. Simple,
- 26:00pretty cut and dry. Black felt comfortable making this donation
- 26:08because he understood that Epstein was a strong proponent of
- 26:11scientific innovation. Apollo's internal review said Black also used BV
- 26:16seventy to make thirty and a half million dollars in
- 26:19loans to Epstein in connection with an our transaction involving
- 26:23the perverted hedge funder who repaid only ten million despite
- 26:27Black's demands for repayment throughout twenty eighteen. So why does
- 26:32Epstein feel so emboldened to not pay these people back
- 26:35all the time? Wesner and Black some of the most
- 26:39powerful people on the planet, folks. But yet this college dropout,
- 26:44this moronic idiot, Jeffrey Epstein, wields this much power over them. Huh.
- 26:49The question I ask you is why their friendship dissolved?
- 26:56The report says in October twenty eighteen because of long,
- 27:00long running dispute over Epstein's fees. About a month later,
- 27:06Epstein became a household name after the Miami Herald published
- 27:09a three part xbos into his Palm Beach trafficking ring
- 27:13and the lenient two thousand and eight plea deal he
- 27:15negotiated with Miami federal prosecutors. All right, so speculation time
- 27:21on my part. So Leon Black broke up with Epstein
- 27:25quote unquote a month before all of this really broke
- 27:29for the second time. Now we know that Black is
- 27:32super powerful, and we know that Black has a lot
- 27:35of friends in the legacy media. Did they leak this
- 27:38to him? Did they tell him that what was coming
- 27:41down the pipe with Epstein to try and give him
- 27:43some time to distance himself. Now, again, this is speculation
- 27:47on my part, but it would make sense right that
- 27:50he had some inside information from the legacy media about
- 27:55this coming down the pipe. That way he could distance himself.
- 28:02Apollo's internal record said Black and Epstein met through an
- 28:05unnamed mutual friend in the mid nineteen nineties and developed
- 28:09a personal relationship an unknown friend. Huh interesting. While Black
- 28:13and Epstein discussed the state planning, philanthropy, and related issues
- 28:17over the years, Black did not engage Epstein to provide
- 28:21him with any services until twenty twelve. The report claims.
- 28:25As if that's any better, that's after his arrest. Folks,
- 28:27all right, keep that in mind. Everybody knew what Jeffrey
- 28:29Epstein was, and then Black went out and recruited him gross. Initially,
- 28:40Black viewed Epstein as someone who was very intelligent and
- 28:42knowledgeable regarding issues relating to a state planning and taxation.
- 28:46Black also was impressed by Epstein's connections to many prominent
- 28:50figures in business, politics, and science. There's the rub Black
- 28:54knew that Epstein had contacts and the contact's equal power.
- 28:58What doll I tell you all the time here on
- 28:59the podcast. Information is more important than money to these people.
- 29:05Epstein spoke knowledgeably about scientific innovation and technology. He introduced
- 29:10Black to well regarded researchers at Harvard University and MIT,
- 29:16and encouraged Black to donate to charitable causes that supported
- 29:19scientific development. Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure he did. With
- 29:25Epstein bringing Black in to give the universities more money.
- 29:28That increases Epstein's worth to these universities and therefore makes
- 29:34his hooks go deeper into the back of their neck.
- 29:37That's how all of this works, folks. That's how this works.
- 29:40This is no different than a mafia scam or something
- 29:43that the cartel would be running. And MIT reports that
- 29:48Epstein claimed to have set up anonymous donations for the
- 29:51school's media lab from Black and Microsoft co founder Bill Gates.
- 29:57Another absolute scumbag. By the way, Bill Gates. Black is
- 30:03publicly acknowledged donating to charity is affiliated with Epstein, but
- 30:06is not specifically addressed whether he donated to MIT or
- 30:10whether Epstein asked him to donate to MIT. The document concluded, notably,
- 30:16we did not find any evidence that the money donated
- 30:19by Gates or Black actually was Epstein's money. That is,
- 30:22there is no evidence that Gates and Black acted to
- 30:25launder Epstein's money. The backlash over Epstein's donations to the
- 30:29MIT Media Lab caused director joy Eto to resign in
- 30:33twenty nineteen. Oh contraire, there is definitely evidence that this
- 30:39is laundered money, in my opinion, and just because Deckert
- 30:42didn't find any evidence of that, it doesn't satiate my
- 30:46quest for answers. Sorry, I need a real independent investigation
- 30:50of this. Fritz part Harvard noted that Epstein helped two
- 30:56professors obtain millions in donations from Black, Martin who helmed
- 31:00the university program in evolutionary dynamics, and Harvard Medical School
- 31:06geneticist George Church. Jeffrey Epstein introduced mister Black to the
- 31:11research that was being undertaken by professors Church and Noak.
- 31:16A representative for Black told Harvard Council for the university's
- 31:19own report. So Epstein was acting as the middleman, right,
- 31:24he was facilitating all of these donations from all of
- 31:27these big whigs to Harvard. And what were these people
- 31:32getting in return? What was Leon Black getting in return
- 31:35for these donations. What was Glenn Dubin getting or Les Wexner.
- 31:43These are the questions that need to be answered. Mister
- 31:50Black met with professors Noak and Church to discuss their
- 31:54research in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and in the case of Professor Church,
- 31:59also at Black's New York office. The gifts made in
- 32:02support of Professor Church and Professor Noact research were made
- 32:06by mister Black, None of the funds were provided by
- 32:09mister Epstein, and no attempt was made to conceal the
- 32:13source of these gifts. I mean, come on, these guys
- 32:18were making these donations for Jeffrey Epstein is what it
- 32:21looks like, and they were just using it, doing it
- 32:23in their names so that there would be no blowback
- 32:26on Jeffrey Epstein or the university. So they were acting
- 32:29as middlemen. Imagine being this billionaire and being manipulated by
- 32:34Jeffrey Epstein to act as a middleman. The Apollo Report
- 32:41further illustrated the social and financial ties that bound Epstein
- 32:44and Black. In nineteen ninety seven, Black named Epstein a
- 32:47director of his family foundation whose only other officers were
- 32:51himself and spouse Debrah. Convenient only three people involved, all
- 32:56of the dark dirty secrets between husband, wife and Epstein,
- 33:00and there's nobody else in the know. Pretty easy to
- 33:04move around in the shadows that way, huh. While Black
- 33:09clams Epstein left the position in mid two thousand and seven,
- 33:12when the FBI was investigating him in Palm Beach for
- 33:15abusing minors, the foundation's tax forms continue to list Epstein
- 33:19through twenty twelve. So I'm gonna go with the twenty
- 33:22twelve number. Okay, that's what the tax forms say. And
- 33:26I thought that's what we're all interested in, the taxes,
- 33:28So all right, twenty and twelve is the number that
- 33:31I'm gonna go with. And Black continued to socialize with
- 33:35Epstein and pay him for his state and tax planning,
- 33:38among other services, even after his two thousand and eight
- 33:42conviction in Florida. That's a stand up guy, that Leon Black. Huh.
- 33:46Let me pay this sex offender some more money after
- 33:49his arrest and bring him into my confidence. And you
- 33:51know what, I'm gonna bring him over to meet my family.
- 33:56Following Epstein's prison sentence, Black believed that Epstein had served
- 34:00his time and then it would not be inappropriate to
- 34:03maintain a personal and professional relationship with Epstein. Oh, well, look,
- 34:07if the guy was in jail for a money laundering
- 34:10or a basic thievery or a Ponzi scheme or something,
- 34:14all right, I get it, he's a scumbag, but we're
- 34:17still friends. But for this, what he was accused of,
- 34:21what he went to prison for, and you're still gonna
- 34:23be friends with him, I mean, what the hell is
- 34:26wrong with you? At the time, Black thought Epstein's crimes
- 34:32were limited to a single instance of soliciting a seventeen
- 34:35year old prostitute that Black believed Epstein had mistakenly understood
- 34:39was older. The report also says Black believes in rehabilitation
- 34:44and giving people second chances. Well, that's all fine and well,
- 34:48and if that's the case, I challenge Leon Black to
- 34:51put those billions to work for real justice reform and
- 34:55real reform within the prison system. According to the Real
- 35:00Black viewed with Epstein as a friend worthy of his trust.
- 35:03The billionaire regularly visited Epstein in New York, including at
- 35:07events and other prominent guests, and confided in Epstein on
- 35:11personal matters. Certainly doesn't sound like somebody who just knew somebody. Huh.
- 35:15I don't have any acquaintances that I call up and
- 35:18talk to about personal matters, okay, and people that I
- 35:21do business with, unless they're close friends, I don't call
- 35:24them up and complain about my problems either. Black and
- 35:30his wife visited Epstein as his residence in France, Florida,
- 35:34the Caribbean, and New Mexico, but never spent the night.
- 35:37The report claims, Okay, wait a minute, so what did
- 35:41they do in New Mexico? Then? So they flew down
- 35:43to New Mexico, went to the ranch, and then drove
- 35:47from Stanley to Santa Fe to the Motel six. I'm
- 35:51not buying any of that. At Epstein's request, Black and
- 35:56his wife provided transportation from Santa Fe to California on
- 36:00Black's plane to two or more of Epstein's adult guests
- 36:04in Santa Fe. A footnote in the report states, oh boy,
- 36:08old boy, it is getting real in Santa Fe. What
- 36:13the hell is happening down there? The story in Santa
- 36:17Fe is still yet to be told, folks, and I
- 36:21am so so interested in what really went on down there.
- 36:27There is so much more to be uncovered at that
- 36:31ranch and within the surrounding vicinity. Black viewed Epstein as
- 36:37a confirmed bachelor with eclectic tastes who often employed attractive
- 36:41women in The review says, however, Black did not believe
- 36:45that any of the women in Epstein's employ were underage.
- 36:48Black has no recollection of ever seeing Epstein with an
- 36:51underage woman at any time. Yeah, plausible deniability. How are
- 36:55you supposed to know? Again, what are all with? All
- 36:57these guys think that there are I D. Specialists they
- 37:01can check IDs and know if it's real or if
- 37:02it's fake, or they could just look at a girl
- 37:04and know if she's overaged. I mean, come on, nobody knows.
- 37:09They don't know if they're over age or not. The
- 37:12internal report says that for years Epstein managed Black's art
- 37:16collection and counseled him on forming a new art partnership
- 37:19and obtaining a potential advisory opinion from the New York
- 37:23State Department of Taxation and Finance regarding a contemplated transaction
- 37:28involving Black's art. Oh yeah, because you know just what
- 37:31These idiots need. More tax breaks, more loopholes, more ways
- 37:35not to pay up. Meanwhile, April fifteenth is approaching very quickly, folks.
- 37:40You better have your shit in order. Epstein was also
- 37:46fairly involved in assisting Black in connection with the sale
- 37:49of certain pieces of artwork, and advised him on the
- 37:51contested ownership of a Picasso sculpture. I mean, is it
- 37:56not clear, folks, how deep these ties are? Is it
- 37:59not that Black and Epstein went much further than just
- 38:04a business relationship. In twenty fifteen, Black purchased a bust
- 38:10of a woman from the artist's daughter, Maya Windmeer Picasso
- 38:14for one hundred and six million dollars. The Katari royal
- 38:18family and their agents, however, challenged the transaction. They said
- 38:22they'd already reached a deal with the Picassos to buy
- 38:26the sculpture for about forty two million dollars two years before.
- 38:30Both sides reached the settlement in twenty sixteen, with Black
- 38:34the winner of the piece. Now think about that for
- 38:36a minute. That's how powerful Leon Black and Epstein were.
- 38:39They went up against the Katari royal family, who has
- 38:42more money than the Lord himself, and they came out victorious.
- 38:50Around the same time Black in Epstein's relationship started to unravel,
- 38:54Epstein began demanding tens of millions in fees for supposedly
- 38:58coming up with a tax planning stract transaction that saved
- 39:01Black six hundred million. And this is what always happens
- 39:04with these people, right, the greed gets the best of them.
- 39:07There's never enough. They're so gluttonous that there is never
- 39:11enough for them. He emailed Black throughout twenty sixteen in
- 39:16twenty seventeen to pressure him to pay more for the expertise.
- 39:21Epstein also would invoke his friendship with Black in those emails,
- 39:24the Apollo Report says, including by referencing personal matters that
- 39:29Black had shared with Epstein in confidence, although there is
- 39:32no evidence that those matters had any relationship to any
- 39:36of Epstein's criminal activity or to any of Black's payments
- 39:40to Epstein. Well, those emails should be given to the FBI.
- 39:43The FBI should demand those emails, in fact, subpoena them,
- 39:46and let's get them introduced to evidence. Black per the report,
- 39:54was shocked when Epstein's sex crimes made news in late
- 39:56twenty eighteen. Oh yeah, and I was shocked when I
- 40:00I woke up this morning, turned on the shower, got
- 40:02in and the water was wet. Some witnesses noted specifically
- 40:07that they did not believe Black would have allowed Epstein
- 40:09to be introduced to Black's wife. And children. If Black
- 40:12had any suspicion that Epstein had done anything inappropriate or
- 40:16illegal with girls or young women, the review says, Yeah,
- 40:20I disagree. What we have found throughout this story is
- 40:24all of these people bring their kids up and their
- 40:27wife up as an excuse or as a shield, and
- 40:29it's disgusting every single time. Why should Black be any different?
- 40:37But at least one guest who attended a swanky pool
- 40:39party at Black's Hampton's property in twenty fifteen was surprised
- 40:43to see Epstein among the swimsuit clad revelers. Leon had
- 40:47a personal relationship with Jeffrey, and I found it odd.
- 40:50One witness told the post, why was what Jeffrey did
- 40:54not that bad? Well? All I could say about that
- 40:58is the only crime that you can commit when you're
- 41:02in that circle with these so called elite is the
- 41:06crime of being broke, Human trafficking, sex trafficking, sex offenses.
- 41:12Those are all forgivable offenses. You know, though. The one
- 41:16thing that they cannot forgive is people being poor. That's
- 41:21the one unbreakable, that's the one unmovable mountain to these people.
- 41:30So it shouldn't come as a shock that they welcome
- 41:33Jeffrey Epstein with open arms. It shouldn't come as a
- 41:35shock that Jeffrey Epstein and Leon Black were so close.
- 41:40And now as all of this starts to unfold and
- 41:44the curtain is pulled back, how many other people are
- 41:48going to be exposed for their relationships with Epstein? I
- 41:53hope a lot, because every single one of these people
- 41:56that works in finance and all of these people who
- 42:00were involved with these transactions and they they really really
- 42:06helped Jeffrey Epstein abuse these girls. Not physically right, they
- 42:10weren't in the room according to what we know so far,
- 42:13but their money enabled all of this to occur, and
- 42:17for that transgression, they need to answer. If you'd like
- 42:23to contact me, you can do that at Bobbykapuchi at
- 42:25ProtonMail dot com. That's b O. B b Y c
- 42:29ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also
- 42:33find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap u Cci.
- 42:39All of the links that go at this episode can
- 42:41be found in the description box. All right, folks, I'll
- 42:45be back later on tonight if there's some new news.
- 42:47If not, it'll be a flashback episode and we'll be
- 42:50back tomorrow morning for a fresh start. All right, everybody
- 42:53have a great Wednesday night. So Leon Black, one of
- 43:00Jeffrey Epstein's BFFs, is now under investigation. Now we have
- 43:08covered the allegations against him by Missus Gunieva, but now
- 43:16the report is that those allegations have turned into a
- 43:21criminal investigation. And my comment to that is about time,
- 43:27about time. Leon Black should have been caught up in
- 43:32a RICO investigation in regards to Jeffrey Epstein a long
- 43:36time ago. But unfortunately the Department of Justice is scared.
- 43:41The Department of Justice still doesn't have any backbone. And
- 43:46Merrick Garland is no better than Bill Barr. I said
- 43:51what I said. If he was well, we'd see more
- 43:56movement here, wouldn't we. But like I told you, ring
- 44:00the whole transition of power, meet the new boss, same
- 44:03as the old boss. The only people who think differently
- 44:07are those engaging in tribalism folks. Meanwhile, over here at
- 44:11the adults table, we want them all to be eviscerated.
- 44:16We want them all to be brought in, and the
- 44:19best way to do that would be RICO. But no,
- 44:23and it's funny you don't see the legacy media pining
- 44:25for Rico either, why not? They sure were quick to
- 44:28yell about it for r Kelly or Rainieri. I wonder
- 44:32what they have to hide. The party's over for all
- 44:36of these people, and you know, the days of being
- 44:41nice and friendly should be over as well. If you're
- 44:44named in these court documents and you have allegations against
- 44:48you by these survivors, you should be persona non grata.
- 44:54But that's not how it works, is it not. If
- 44:56you're one of Jeffrey Epstein's friends. Leon Black should have
- 45:02been smashed with Rico, his assets should have been seized,
- 45:06and Apollo Global should have been raided. But that's in
- 45:11a perfect world. That's not the world we live in,
- 45:14the world that we have built. Remember, like George Carlin said,
- 45:17we can plain and bitch and moan about these politicians,
- 45:20yet we send them back every single cycle. So whose
- 45:23responsibility is it? Really? The responsibility is ours. But unfortunately
- 45:30people are way too gas lit, people are way too
- 45:32caught up with hate in their neighbors, and then scumbags
- 45:36like Leon Black get to slide by. And that's why
- 45:41I talk about this so much, and I try to
- 45:43point it out so much, because we're almost out of
- 45:46point now, folks, where there's no going back with the
- 45:48divide in the country, and that can only lead to
- 45:51bad things. And people like this Leon Black, they take
- 45:55advantage of chaos, They take advantage of the citizenry at
- 46:00war with each other. Basically, just take a look at
- 46:03how they've increased their wealth while the rest of us
- 46:05got poor. And then at the same time they have
- 46:07the audacity to stand up there and gaslight people into
- 46:11thinking that people who were collecting unemployment were the problem. Well,
- 46:15guess what, That's obviously not the case, right because there's
- 46:19still a bunch of job openings, aren't there. There's still
- 46:22a bunch of people leaving their jobs, aren't there. So
- 46:29even during the most destructive catastrophes, their goal is to
- 46:34divide us. Oh you're vaccinated, you're not. Oh you got unemployment,
- 46:38you didn't. Meanwhile, bitch ass Leon Black is swimming through
- 46:45his money like Scrooge McDuck and laughing at us. And
- 46:51I'm sick of it, folks, I really am. I get
- 46:53onto Twitter, and it's an absolute cesspool. So many people
- 46:58who fake the funk, so many people who act like
- 47:00they're really interested in justice about Jeffrey Epstein, really aren't
- 47:04interested in justice. They're interested in playing politics like everything else.
- 47:10And most of the time I just ignore all of
- 47:13it and keep it moving. But as a political scientist,
- 47:18I'm starting to get tired of the bullshit I see.
- 47:23It is very annoying when people who obviously never even
- 47:27passed a basic Civics class think they know about politics.
- 47:31You do not. You know how the KGB used to
- 47:38talk about useful idiots, Well, that is all of us
- 47:42who are engaging in this nonsense. And it used to
- 47:46be me as well. I used to be right there
- 47:48with the rest of the idiots. Everything changed for me
- 47:54when I started looking into Jeffrey Epstein and I understood
- 47:57the scope of how massive this was, how far ranging
- 48:01it was, and how it involved all of them on
- 48:04both sides of the aisle. And my friends, we have
- 48:09ourselves a problem. When we're not paying attention to what
- 48:14the most powerful people in our society are doing, we
- 48:18are setting ourselves up for disaster. And when I talk
- 48:22about rich people, remember I don't mean people are making
- 48:25four hundred thousand dollars a year like President Junior Soprano
- 48:29Biden does. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking
- 48:33about the real rich people in this country, in this world,
- 48:36the handful that control everything. And I don't mean sitting
- 48:40in some back room like some conspiracy theorists would talk about.
- 48:43I'm talking to people that pull the levers in the
- 48:45financial sector. Those are the people that run everything. Money
- 48:52makes the whole world go around, doesn't it. These are
- 48:55the people that are the issue, and these are the
- 48:57people that control our politicians. Can you name me the
- 49:00last president that showed up and didn't bring a fuck
- 49:03ton of bankers with him. I'm waiting. And the whole
- 49:09reason for this rant before we get into the article
- 49:13is because it leads to this, people like Leon Black
- 49:16and Jeffrey Epstein skirting by and I'm sick of it.
- 49:20I'm not gonna I'm not standing for it. Obviously, I'm
- 49:23doing everything that I possibly can to bring awareness to
- 49:26the issue. But it's kind of discouraging when you see
- 49:33people who talk out of one side of their mouth,
- 49:35how oh it's all about justice, But out of the
- 49:38other side of their mouth, all they can do is
- 49:40demean one side or the other. That's not how it works,
- 49:43that's not how you build unity. So miss me with
- 49:48all of the bullshit especially the tribalism and the politics.
- 49:52I don't care about it, not in this instance. I've
- 49:55said it once and I'll say it again, full on
- 49:58carpet bombing of any can you want to involved, Republican,
- 50:01Democrat or anything in between, because if not, if we
- 50:07continue to play games and the pitchforks and the torches,
- 50:10or continue to be at each other's throats, then people
- 50:12like Leon Black are going to continue to abuse our
- 50:15children and folks. Look, I don't have any kids. This
- 50:20isn't a fight for my children. This is a fight
- 50:23for your children. So please remember that before you fire
- 50:30off that incendiary message to your friend or your uncle
- 50:35or whatever, because we're playing right into their hands, and
- 50:44I really wish more people would wake up to what's
- 50:46going on. All Right, now that you've listened to me
- 50:50Winge for eight minutes and eleven seconds, why don't we
- 50:53jump into this article and talk about bitch ass Leon Black?
- 50:57Shall we? Today's article from the Daily Mail? The author
- 51:02is David aver AVERR. Sorry, David, I'm terrible at pronouncing names.
- 51:07As you all know, his last name is spelled av
- 51:10e r r E, so I apologize if I mispronounced
- 51:15your name. PA headline. Billionaire financier Leon Black, seventy is
- 51:21being investigated over accusations he raped two Russian models, including
- 51:25one in Jeffrey Epstein's Upper east Side townhouse in two
- 51:28thousand and two. Hell of a guy, this, Leon Black. Huh,
- 51:32certainly the kind of guy that you'd love to send
- 51:34your daughter to go work for, said nobody. Ever, and again, look,
- 51:40I don't know what happened here, right, I wasn't there.
- 51:43But what what I will tell you is this, anybody
- 51:46who is hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein's suspect, in my opinion,
- 51:50anybody who's palaling around with Jeffrey Epstein, it's reasonable to
- 51:54assume they might be engaging in this sort of behavior
- 51:57as well. So that's why when we got these allegations
- 52:01from miss Ganieva, I thought that they were credible. Now again,
- 52:06that's just my opinion, right, I don't have evidence to
- 52:08prove that her allegations are credible, but well, looks like
- 52:13the authorities are taking them a bit serious. Hauh. Billionaire
- 52:20financier Leon Black is now believed to be the subject
- 52:23of a Manhattan District Attorney's Office investigation into claims that
- 52:26he raped and sexually assaulted two models. Black seventy, a
- 52:31close friend of notorious financier and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, was
- 52:35first publicly accused of rape and sexual abuse to March
- 52:39by Guzelle Ganieva, who is thirty eight. Ganieva alleged Black
- 52:44as a violent, sadistic sexual predator who raped and harassed her,
- 52:48then coerced her into signing a non disclosure agreement. She
- 52:52went on to file a lawsuit against Black in June.
- 52:56So again, when this lawsuit was filed, I said it, then,
- 53:01if she's not telling the truth, she's gonna be in
- 53:03big trouble because Leon Black is going to employ a
- 53:06team of scumbag lawyers to dig into what she has
- 53:09to say. So she has to be ready to walk
- 53:11through the fire. And it sure seems like she was,
- 53:13doesn't it. And good for her, Miss Ganiheva, if you
- 53:17happen to hear this episode, good for you. Take that
- 53:22shit back from them, that stupid ass non disclosure agreement. Sorry,
- 53:27that doesn't mean anything, not when it comes to this,
- 53:30to your dignity, to your future. So all you rich
- 53:35scumbags out there with your non disclosure agreements, take them
- 53:38and shove them. It's a new day, all right. Nobody
- 53:41should have to sign a non disclosure agreement when it
- 53:44comes to a relationship as far as uh one of
- 53:46sexual nature. Oh, I don't want my wife to find out. Well,
- 53:50here's an idea, don't cheat on your wife. Then the
- 53:57model then amended her lawsuit in September to include the
- 54:01accusations of a second woman referred to only as Jane Doe,
- 54:04who alleged she was violently raped by Black and Jeffrey
- 54:07Epstein's New York residence in two thousand and two. So
- 54:11it all fits right with the timeline. We know what
- 54:13was going on there in two thousand and two, We
- 54:16know the behavior that Jeffrey Epstein and his goon squad
- 54:20were engaging in. So why would anyone think that this
- 54:25doesn't have legs? Why would anyone think that this isn't
- 54:28gonna go anywhere? And really, what it comes down to
- 54:30is everyone scared of Leon Black. I remember when I
- 54:34worked in the financial sector, the talk about Leon Black
- 54:38was everyone was fearful. And I worked for Cannor Gaming
- 54:45Howard Lutnik, and they were very powerful as well, but
- 54:50nobody was moving the needle like Leon Black when it
- 54:53comes to fear or people uh not wanting to step
- 54:57on his toes. So of course the meat is scared
- 55:00shitless of them. The guy's banging off at Apollo Global.
- 55:04I don't think people understand the scope of Apollo Global's reach.
- 55:10These are very powerful people. We are talking some of
- 55:13the most powerful people in the history of finance. So
- 55:19we know the legacy media is scared to him and
- 55:21they don't want to go hard against him. So it's
- 55:23up to independent content creators, independent journalists. And guess what
- 55:27I'm here for it Not one of these people ticks
- 55:33off any bit of fear in my heart, not at all.
- 55:36What are they going to do? Show up and follow
- 55:39me around like Ronan Pharaoh. I got news for you.
- 55:42I'm not roaning Pharaoh. I'll just leave it at that.
- 55:47You come to the inner City where I live and
- 55:49you want to follow me around? Okay, sounds like fun,
- 55:53but you better have a badge. None of these people
- 55:57elicit one bit of fear from me. And I'll continue
- 56:01talking about them until my beard grows to my feet
- 56:05and it's as white as snow and they ain't gonna
- 56:08do shit about it. How about that? Run home and
- 56:12tell that it's too bad the legacy media, Well, it's
- 56:17too bad they don't have a backbone. A legal spokesperson
- 56:23for Black has thus far denied any knowledge of the investigation,
- 56:26while the man himself has steadfastly denied accusations. The lawsuit
- 56:31and resulting investigation comes after Black, once one of New
- 56:35York City's most powerful executives as the former CEO of
- 56:39Apollo Global Management, denied any knowledge of Epstein's wrongdoing when
- 56:43his heinous crimes were exposed. Oh yeah, he knew nothing.
- 56:47You know, you just give one hundred and fifty eight
- 56:49million dollars to people you don't know shit about. Hey,
- 56:52here you go, bro, here's a quick one hundred and
- 56:54fifty eight million. I don't need to know shit about you, though.
- 56:56Can I get some advice? What? What does that even mean?
- 57:00What does any of this even mean? And if you
- 57:04can't tell, I'm fired up this morning. I've had enough
- 57:07of people like Leon Black, and I've certainly had enough
- 57:09of their apologist too. This dude is obviously somebody who
- 57:16was deeply, deeply connected to Jeffrey Epstein one hundred and
- 57:20fifty eight million dollars worth and still somehow there was
- 57:24no investigation into him and his ties with Jeffrey Epstein.
- 57:28But oh, let's all just stop everything we're doing and
- 57:32let's go and investigate the Washington football team. That's your Congress, folks,
- 57:38that's what you voted for. And if it's not, my
- 57:43suggestion is remember that. In twenty twenty two, the investigation
- 57:50into Black has reportedly been launched after Ganieva and Jane
- 57:54Doe met with prosecutors to discuss their claims, according to
- 57:58sources cited by Vanity Fair. It comes just one week
- 58:02after Black made his first high profile public appearance in
- 58:05months at the Beverly Hilton, when he attended a conference
- 58:08on finance, of which his son Ben, a private equity executive,
- 58:13was a part. And that's the thing with these people,
- 58:15It doesn't matter the allegations against you. The only crime
- 58:19when you're part of the so called elite is to
- 58:22not have money. That's it. You can rate, you can traffic,
- 58:26you can steal, whatever it is, doesn't matter. You'll be
- 58:29welcomed with open arms. Don't be poor. Though. The saga
- 58:36began in March, when Ganieva first went public with their
- 58:39accusations about Black's long standing history of sebuse and chorus
- 58:43of behavior. Black resigned from his position as head of
- 58:47the massive investment firm Apollo Global on March twenty second,
- 58:51just days after Ghanieva posted a series of tweets claiming
- 58:55that her abuse at the hands of Black started in
- 58:58two thousand and eight and until two thy and fifteen.
- 59:03But it's okay, folks. She signed a non prosecution agreement
- 59:07or I mean a non disclosure agreement, and you know
- 59:09she wore a short skirt, so it's okay. The thought
- 59:13pattern of these people makes me fucking crazy, and it's
- 59:16up to other alphamels, other dudes who aren't punk bitches
- 59:20to step up and say something about it. And I
- 59:24see a lack of that as well. She went on
- 59:28to file a lawsuit against the billionaire financier in June,
- 59:31in which she branded him a violent and sadistic sexual
- 59:34predator who raped and harassed her, before alleging that the
- 59:37former CEO of Apollo Global Management forced her to fly
- 59:41to Florida to satisfy the sex needs of Jeffrey Epstein
- 59:44at his Palm Beach villa. Black had previously admitted to
- 59:48having a six year affair with Ganieva, which he claims
- 59:51was consensual, and said he paid Ganieva one hundred grand
- 59:55a month for fifteen years not to discuss the relationship. Imagine,
- 1:00:00one hundred grand a month sounds like a lot of money, right,
- 1:00:02Not really, not when you're giving Jeffrey Epstein one hundred
- 1:00:05and fifty eight million dollars. Again, I ask you, what
- 1:00:08is one hundred If you're only giving her one hundred
- 1:00:10thousand dollars a month one point two million dollars a
- 1:00:13year to keep quiet? What could Jeffrey Epstein be worth
- 1:00:16at one hundred and fifty eight million. Go ahead and
- 1:00:20chew on that for a little while. Folks, put that
- 1:00:22shit in your pipe and smoke it, because I can't
- 1:00:25make heads or tails of it. Lawyers for Ganieva then
- 1:00:31in September filed an amended complaint detailing the horrific experiences
- 1:00:36of A. Jane Doe, who says she was violently raped
- 1:00:38by Black in two thousand and two. The legal team
- 1:00:42said Jane Doe's experiences show that, contrary to Black's version
- 1:00:46of the events, that he knew nothing about Epstein's sexual wrongdoing,
- 1:00:49as alleged, Black was perpetrating his own sexual crimes at
- 1:00:54Epstein's home as far back as two thousand and two. Again,
- 1:00:59where is the SDNY? Where is Alison mo and Marine
- 1:01:05Komi and the rest of them? Why is this not
- 1:01:08a Rico case? I really wish somebody would answer that
- 1:01:13question for me. I really really do. And when I'm
- 1:01:16in New York, I'm gonna try and get that question
- 1:01:19answered by these prosecutors. I'm gonna ask them and we're
- 1:01:22gonna see what they have to say. And I don't
- 1:01:23care if I have to go to the prosecutor's office.
- 1:01:26That's what all happened. I have had enough at this point, folks,
- 1:01:29I am as fed up as I have ever been.
- 1:01:35Going a step further, the motion alleges that Black had
- 1:01:37a long standing relationship with Epstein for years that involved
- 1:01:41arranged massages with women for money at Epstein's home. How
- 1:01:45is he not part of the criminal conspiracy? You're at
- 1:01:48his house, You're getting massages from trafficked girls, You're moving
- 1:01:53money around with him. How is this not everything that
- 1:01:57we talk about on a daily basis. Oh, that's right,
- 1:01:59it is. But there is a two tier justice system
- 1:02:04in this country, and I don't need to keep telling
- 1:02:06you that. Just take a look for yourself. Jane Do
- 1:02:13alleged that a short while into her association with Epstein,
- 1:02:16she was violently assaulted by Black after he instructed her
- 1:02:20to give him a massage at Epstein's home. The suit
- 1:02:23is that a huge black, a huge black, standing more
- 1:02:26than six foot four inch and weighing more than three
- 1:02:28hundred pounds, brutally raped her before paying her off. Imagine
- 1:02:34this disgusting, son of a bitch. And it's multiple girls
- 1:02:39saying this now, multiple women. According to Black, Um he
- 1:02:45provided substantial documentary evidence in legal filings, including text messages
- 1:02:49and recordings, that show miss Ganieva's claims to be completely false. Well,
- 1:02:54I'd like to see all of that, and I certain
- 1:02:56like to see where all of this goes. The point
- 1:02:58of the matter is this for me anyway, not so
- 1:03:01much as what we know about this unfolding situation. For me,
- 1:03:06it's everything else, the profile that's built of Leon Black previously,
- 1:03:11his relationship with Epstein, his behavior with Epstein, the money,
- 1:03:14and now this. How is he not part of this investigation?
- 1:03:18How are there not indictments for Kahn and Indyke and
- 1:03:21the Core four? How is it that it's only Gallainne
- 1:03:25Maxwell sitting in that jel cell right now. Now. Don't
- 1:03:28get me wrong, she belongs there, But all of this
- 1:03:31other stuff needs to occur as well, or it's a
- 1:03:35failure on the part of the authorities. And frankly, I'm
- 1:03:40tired of it. I'm tired of all of their big talk.
- 1:03:42I'm tired of all we're gonna go after the most
- 1:03:45powerful to only again go after the most vulnerable. And
- 1:03:52there was all kinds of excitement when Trump was leaving
- 1:03:54and Biden was coming in, and I was told by
- 1:03:56so many people how different things were gonna be. Yeah,
- 1:03:59my question is when, folks, when are things gonna be different?
- 1:04:02Because as of right now, shit still is the same.
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