Latest / The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast / Episode 125: The Cold Death
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, it's Fred here. On this week's episode of Tom
- 0:04Speaker 1: and Jerry's show, there's stories about workplace accidents abound. One
- 0:10Speaker 1: or two where people have found themselves in the right
- 0:13Speaker 1: tight spot to tell me. That's the thing about my job.
- 0:17Speaker 1: You can't very well go around having workplace accidents. There
- 0:21Speaker 1: are too many consequences, like if I slipped off ladder,
- 0:26Speaker 1: didn't watch what I was doing on scaffold, or if
- 0:29Speaker 1: I off a bloody great hammer off a 200-foot chimney,
- 0:32Speaker 1: poor Donald could find himself a half-day out with the undertaker.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Who would have thought that being a steeplejack would mean
- 0:38Speaker 1: you'd have to be more careful than your average lab assistant? Anyway,
- 0:43Speaker 1: I'll see you there.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Tom, my friend, it's the things you'd find on your desk.
- 0:54Speaker 2: You know what I have on my desk, Tom? One
- 0:56Speaker 2: single tie-wrap. just a little tie wrap just a little
- 0:59Speaker 2: six inch or not not anything big not anything you'd
- 1:02Speaker 2: handcuff anybody with just a little tie wrap and I'm
- 1:04Speaker 2: going to go through the next hour of this recording
- 1:07Speaker 2: fighting every urge in my body not to put that
- 1:09Speaker 2: around my thumb and pull it as tight as it
- 1:11Speaker 2: can go.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Quite literally well fuck you you're 45 the seven year
- 1:17Speaker 3: old found a cable tie in the back of the
- 1:19Speaker 3: car he went look what I found I've made an
- 1:21Speaker 3: arse and he tied it he'd made it up into
- 1:23Speaker 3: a shape that looked like an arse and went that's
- 1:26Speaker 3: what I'm driving like he goes now How tight can
- 1:28Speaker 3: I pull it if I pull it down on my thumb?
- 1:30Speaker 3: I went, you fucking pull that down on your thumb, son,
- 1:32Speaker 3: and I may have to cut your thumb off. Yeah. Really?
- 1:35Speaker 3: And he's not buying any of this. I'm like, I
- 1:37Speaker 3: don't have anything in the car. I'm driving. We're driving
- 1:40Speaker 3: to a rugby tournament. I said, I don't have anything
- 1:42Speaker 3: to snip that off if it gets fucked. If you get.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yeah. And you try... You know, I'm not going to
- 1:47Speaker 2: get into it, Tom, but you try and bite through
- 1:48Speaker 2: one of these fuckers.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Oh, forget about it. No, no, you're not. Yeah, it's
- 1:50Speaker 3: not happening. But needless to say, he was... I could
- 1:54Speaker 3: hear him every so often just... Just one tooth at
- 1:58Speaker 3: a time and next... Eventually he starts roaring and laughing
- 2:01Speaker 3: and I said, you haven't, have you? He goes, no,
- 2:03Speaker 3: I just made a funnier looking arse out of this
- 2:05Speaker 3: cable tie.
- 2:06Speaker 2: I'm going to have to do it, Tom. Just hold on.
- 2:08Speaker 2: I'm going to put up to the mic here so
- 2:10Speaker 2: everybody can hear me. I have to zip it tight.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Go ahead, do it. Otherwise I'll be just... Yeah, yeah,
- 2:13Speaker 2: do it. Nice and listen.
- 2:17Speaker 3: It blew out the mic. It was so loud. Yeah,
- 2:19Speaker 3: it blew out the mic. So I'll do it for you.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Just didn't want us to record the rest of the show, Tom,
- 2:23Speaker 2: I think.
- 2:24Speaker 3: Zip. That's roughly what it was, yeah.
- 2:26Speaker 2: There you go.
- 2:27Speaker 3: We'll edit it in over. I'll tell you what I
- 2:30Speaker 3: have on the desk. I've got sickness. I've got my
- 2:32Speaker 3: first cold of the year.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Oh no!
- 2:34Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know from what, unless
- 2:38Speaker 3: it was just some lurgy-filled child that was hanging around
- 2:40Speaker 3: us yesterday. We were at a rugby tournament and it was,
- 2:44Speaker 3: as I was told, I'm out there, I'm out there, Dad,
- 2:47Speaker 3: just cooking. I'm like, all right, son, you, it's under eights.
- 2:51Speaker 3: You're just cooking. Sure you are. Folding lads like deck chairs,
- 2:54Speaker 3: I was told. But it was 22 fucking degrees, Ger.
- 2:57Speaker 3: The golden age of fucking climate change is upon us.
- 3:00Speaker 3: It's fantastic. Boy, I tell you.
- 3:03Speaker 2: All this and more on this week's The Tom and
- 3:05Speaker 2: Gerry Show, ladies and gentlemen. That's Tom O'Mahony. I'm Gerry
- 3:08Speaker 2: McBride here, lest we forget. But Tom is over there
- 3:11Speaker 2: with a cold. I see him sipping a big cup
- 3:12Speaker 2: of tea. It looks delicious.
- 3:14Speaker 3: It is. It's mega.
- 3:16Speaker 2: You know, we'll probably take... your lurkey and fold it
- 3:20Speaker 2: straight into the first segment of the show as we
- 3:22Speaker 2: do every week with the weekly what have you. This
- 3:26Speaker 2: is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lot
- 3:28Speaker 2: of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what
- 3:30Speaker 2: have yous, and a lot of strands to keep in
- 3:33Speaker 2: my head, man. Because if you have the lurkey, Tom,
- 3:36Speaker 2: there's lurkey to go around. It's only today, as we
- 3:38Speaker 2: record the Tom and Jerry show on a Monday, that
- 3:40Speaker 2: I'm learning a plague has been released from a secret
- 3:45Speaker 2: underground Russian laboratory in Siberia. Your thoughts, Tom?
- 3:51Speaker 3: I have questions. What spy movie did we just fucking
- 3:56Speaker 3: stumble into?
- 3:56Speaker 2: What in the Resident Evil is going on here?
- 3:59Speaker 3: The Umbrella Corp are just below there. Someone called Alice
- 4:02Speaker 3: wandering around the place just freaking everybody out.
- 4:04Speaker 2: I gotta tell you. And details are sketchy because it's
- 4:09Speaker 2: hard to get the fucking weather out of Russia, let
- 4:11Speaker 2: alone anything else, okay?
- 4:13Speaker 3: Everything's fine. Relax. Go back to work. It's okay. It's okay.
- 4:18Speaker 2: But here's what we know on the subject, Tom. And
- 4:24Speaker 2: is the black death upon us again? Let's find out.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Let me have a go at this. The Irkutsk Anti-Plague
- 4:32Speaker 2: Research Institute of Siberia and the Far East. The Irkutsk
- 4:36Speaker 2: Anti-Plague Research Institute of Siberia and the Far East. Let
- 4:39Speaker 2: me just run that through here. I-A-P-R-I-S-F-E. You know, it's okay.
- 4:44Speaker 2: I thought it was going to spell out something cool.
- 4:46Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I thought it was going
- 4:47Speaker 2: to spell out something cool. The demon. The demon facility.
- 4:50Speaker 2: But no, it's an anti-plague research institute. A lovely place
- 4:54Speaker 2: to have fucking plague, if you ask me.
- 4:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:57Speaker 2: And they ran afoul of a test tube of plague
- 5:03Speaker 2: that they had, which a female researcher accidentally knocked off
- 5:06Speaker 2: a table and smashed. And then she has sadly passed away.
- 5:11Speaker 2: If I'm not taking this all that seriously, Tom, it's
- 5:14Speaker 2: because it's kind of like what happened at the start
- 5:16Speaker 2: of The Rock.
- 5:17Speaker 3: It's quite literally the same. The green gas comes out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 5:22Speaker 2: So what you're asking me to believe is that this
- 5:24Speaker 2: deadly airborne plague is just hanging around in test tubes
- 5:28Speaker 2: where you can elbow them off a table.
- 5:30Speaker 3: See, that was my reading, right? And I know that
- 5:33Speaker 3: some parts of Russia are still a bit behind the old,
- 5:36Speaker 3: you know, they wouldn't be quite up to date. Right.
- 5:40Speaker 3: But Come on now.
- 5:43Speaker 2: You'd kind of expect that to be, if nothing else,
- 5:45Speaker 2: behind glass.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Like, we've all put... I'm not great with intelligence and safety, Gerry.
- 5:51Speaker 3: You know that. But at the same time, I'm not
- 5:55Speaker 3: popping out for a fag break, coming back in in
- 5:58Speaker 3: my civvies and going, did anybody see where I left
- 6:02Speaker 3: the plague?
- 6:02Speaker 2: Come here, I left a bit of plague about there.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Did anybody see the plague I left there? Yeah, you
- 6:07Speaker 3: left it over there. Look, hey, shouldn't you be in your... Oh, fuck.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Are we still making them out of glass? Oh, fuck.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Oh, God, yeah. Fucking drop it.
- 6:16Speaker 3: Oh, fuck. And then she goes... The woman headed home
- 6:20Speaker 3: after work and then felt a bit rough. Yeah. Like,
- 6:24Speaker 3: what kind of fucking hear them, scare them operation are
- 6:27Speaker 3: they running if they're running?
- 6:29Speaker 2: What kind of fucking job bridge.
- 6:32Speaker 3: yeah false fucking oh of.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Course plague research.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Facility false but with like curly writing instead false.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Um the the plague itself is a mnemonic plague Tommy
- 6:46Speaker 2: it is of the lungs so it's not a it's
- 6:48Speaker 2: not a bubonic plague which was the black death the
- 6:51Speaker 2: bubonic plague were the bubo's little uh pussy spots that
- 6:56Speaker 2: would break out all over you and that's how it
- 6:58Speaker 2: transferred from person to person this is mnemonic this will
- 7:01Speaker 2: get into your lungs and kill you within uh 24
- 7:03Speaker 2: hours tom and it is 100 effective if you get
- 7:08Speaker 2: this if you do not get antibiotics in the first
- 7:11Speaker 2: 24 hours you're fucked and people are suggesting that there's
- 7:15Speaker 2: no reason to believe there's also no reason to believe
- 7:18Speaker 2: that this did happen tom but there's no reason to
- 7:20Speaker 2: believe that the russians have not weaponized this so that
- 7:23Speaker 2: it is immune to antibiotics in which case by the
- 7:27Speaker 2: time this episode drops on thursday there might be very
- 7:31Speaker 2: little to fucking laugh about.
- 7:32Speaker 3: This is what, this is what, I mean, let's be honest,
- 7:37Speaker 3: everybody listening to this, if it was eight years ago,
- 7:42Speaker 3: six years ago, even myself and Gerry were talking about this,
- 7:44Speaker 3: you go, ah, the lads are gas cunts.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be all right. H1N1 again, yeah, it'll be
- 7:50Speaker 2: all right.
- 7:50Speaker 3: What's the worst that can happen? It's like the bird flu.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Remember foot and mouth?
- 7:53Speaker 2: Yeah, H1N1, swine flu, yeah, avian flu, yeah, avian influenza,
- 7:58Speaker 2: all this kind of shit.
- 7:59Speaker 3: But, you know, it's... And we had the big one, Tom,
- 8:02Speaker 3: it must be said. We had the big one. And
- 8:05Speaker 3: lo and behold, it came out of a... You know,
- 8:07Speaker 3: I think it's all... At this stage, we can agree
- 8:09Speaker 3: it came out of a lab. Did it come out
- 8:11Speaker 3: of a lab in somebody's back pocket? Did it come
- 8:13Speaker 3: out of a lab in a vat? It did come
- 8:15Speaker 3: out of... How the fuck it came out of the lab?
- 8:17Speaker 3: But this came out of the lab because if it
- 8:19Speaker 3: was bubonic... I wouldn't be that fucking stressed, right? No,
- 8:24Speaker 3: because you'd really have to rub up against.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Someone to get it.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Well, you've got to... That was one of the.
- 8:28Speaker 2: As is my fucking scant understanding of these things, Tom.
- 8:31Speaker 3: The bubonic was really spread by midges and mosquitoes. Yes. And.
- 8:36Speaker 2: But you broke out in sores.
- 8:38Speaker 3: You broke out in sores.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:39Speaker 3: But this fucking pneumonic... Well, much like it sounds, it's
- 8:43Speaker 3: on the breath.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Yeah, so I can shout it into you.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Yeah, you can shout it into me. So... God bless
- 8:51Speaker 3: this poor girl.
- 8:52Speaker 2: God be with the days of shouting things into people.
- 8:57Speaker 3: God be good to this poor woman. But like, who
- 8:59Speaker 3: did she shout at?
- 9:00Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not messing it up. One way or another,
- 9:01Speaker 2: there's a young researcher down here.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Now, they're confident enough. They did. They stuck up the flag.
- 9:08Speaker 3: And this is closer now. This is Siberia, but this
- 9:10Speaker 3: would be closer to Mongolia. Like, this would be right
- 9:12Speaker 3: out there. Right out there. Like, I mean, even if
- 9:14Speaker 3: you see some of the pictures, you're like, were those
- 9:17Speaker 3: photographs taken in 1983? Because.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is like, this is like where spies
- 9:22Speaker 2: like us were.
- 9:23Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is all flats. You know, there's 1992 civics,
- 9:29Speaker 3: do you know, like in the pictures, like it's, so
- 9:33Speaker 3: I'm kind of going, well, maybe it did happen by accident.
- 9:37Speaker 3: There's a possibility because if it's been run a bit hokey,
- 9:40Speaker 3: you know, because it's like, we're Siberia, we have many people,
- 9:43Speaker 3: we lose a few, no big deal, but they've shut
- 9:45Speaker 3: down three big hospitals because of course she was admitted
- 9:47Speaker 3: to a hospital with the, Well.
- 9:49Speaker 2: They thought she had.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Pneumonia and it only came to light that she was like,
- 9:55Speaker 3: oh no, I work above, and... Or should I say
- 9:58Speaker 3: below in the lab there. What? You mean the lab where...
- 10:02Speaker 3: The anti-plague lab. That's the one? Fuck. I don't think
- 10:07Speaker 3: this is a nut intolerance, lads. I think she may
- 10:10Speaker 3: have le plague. So... They've shut it down. Now, Russia
- 10:14Speaker 3: has come out and said, no big problem. One person died.
- 10:17Speaker 3: Nobody else have any signs of anything. But we close
- 10:20Speaker 3: hospitals just to be safe. Why do you need to
- 10:22Speaker 3: close all fucking three of them? Tell me. Because you
- 10:24Speaker 3: only went to the one. You know, I'm just wondering
- 10:27Speaker 3: how they got this shit on lockdown. Yeah. But here's
- 10:31Speaker 3: the thing, Ger. If it's going to break out anywhere, right,
- 10:34Speaker 3: in any urban area, let it be Mongolia. Do you
- 10:38Speaker 3: know what I mean?
- 10:39Speaker 2: We don't want it to happen anywhere, but like, the
- 10:41Speaker 2: more remote, the better.
- 10:42Speaker 3: The huge Mongolian steppe, like, is well known for its
- 10:47Speaker 3: fucking vastness. Like, the last time it had a bunch
- 10:49Speaker 3: of people was Genghis Khan was running around the fucking joint.
- 10:52Speaker 3: And Siberia, you know, I don't know how it fares
- 10:54Speaker 3: in the fucking cold, but I'm hoping there's a bit
- 10:57Speaker 3: of a fucking sharp snap coming where, you know, makes
- 11:00Speaker 3: the roads impassable and whatnot. And leave that the fuck to...
- 11:04Speaker 3: And we look at it again in February or March.
- 11:07Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
- 11:08Speaker 2: Experts are saying that, you know, not in these words, Tom,
- 11:12Speaker 2: not in these words, because experts don't speak like this.
- 11:14Speaker 2: But from what I've read here, the consensus seems to
- 11:17Speaker 2: be that it's probably grand. Yeah.
- 11:21Speaker 3: Like it was.
- 11:23Speaker 2: It's probably grand.
- 11:25Speaker 3: I tell you now. Right. Again, I'll reference this back
- 11:27Speaker 3: to a child because I know this is how you
- 11:30Speaker 3: can nearly kind of go. Well, you let a child offer.
- 11:32Speaker 3: So himself is learning prayers at the minute. And he's like, era.
- 11:36Speaker 3: I got there at the end, right? Totally, totally, totally wrong.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Took a shot on every line, right? And he's like,
- 11:44Speaker 3: but you're like, guessing it is okay. I went, no, yeah,
- 11:49Speaker 3: in a lot of cases, but like if you were
- 11:50Speaker 3: designing the wing of a plane, like, you don't want
- 11:52Speaker 3: to design it too short and if snap off, he goes, ah, yeah,
- 11:55Speaker 3: but that's serious stuff. I'm saying, do you know, most things,
- 11:58Speaker 3: a guess is okay.
- 11:59Speaker 2: And I'm like, near enough is good enough.
- 12:02Speaker 3: You know, you can't see it from my house kind
- 12:03Speaker 3: of an attitude. And he was, he, he's seven. And
- 12:07Speaker 3: I have a funny feeling, Gerard, the way you've tailored
- 12:10Speaker 3: this story to me and the way you've told me this,
- 12:12Speaker 3: I have a funny feeling that these lads might be
- 12:14Speaker 3: in the same realm. I've gone, you know.
- 12:18Speaker 2: It's sad about lady, but, you know.
- 12:20Speaker 3: It's very sad about lady. It's good. Honestly, we will
- 12:23Speaker 3: build statue.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to miss that clumsy bitch.
- 12:30Speaker 3: I won't miss her, you know, at breakfast time when
- 12:32Speaker 3: she knocks fucking everything on the floor. I can't believe
- 12:35Speaker 3: they make test tubes still out of glass, by the way.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Breakable glass. This thing has fucking bells in it, to
- 12:40Speaker 2: be honest with you, Tom. But it is like... Sometimes
- 12:42Speaker 2: we'll cover a story and then come to find out
- 12:44Speaker 2: that it's completely made up. What can I tell you, folks?
- 12:47Speaker 2: We're not there in a podcast. But this is on
- 12:49Speaker 2: Sky News, to be honest.
- 12:50Speaker 3: It's on Sky News. It's on.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Make of that what you will, Tom.
- 12:52Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's on USA Today. It's on the BBC.
- 12:55Speaker 3: It's on... Now, again, make of all of that what
- 12:57Speaker 3: you will. But... Do you know? It's... It's like....
- 13:05Speaker 2: It's a classic Resident Evil story where the Umbrella Corporation
- 13:09Speaker 2: were building bioweapons in a laboratory underneath a mansion. And
- 13:14Speaker 2: then some fucking doofus elbows a test tube off the
- 13:17Speaker 2: side of a table.
- 13:18Speaker 3: It breaks. Boom.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Zombies. There you go. It's like that, only with really,
- 13:26Speaker 2: really bad cold. I will kill you in 24 hours.
- 13:29Speaker 3: Some of the photographs that were taken were taken from
- 13:32Speaker 3: people filming in the residence of Shilatov in Russia's Dusk region.
- 13:39Speaker 3: But they're like, oh, he's in full hazmat. I'll be
- 13:42Speaker 3: honest with you, Ger, I've put on more gear putting
- 13:45Speaker 3: in fucking insulation than what these guys.
- 13:46Speaker 2: It looks like a body coming to do spray foam
- 13:49Speaker 2: on your ass.
- 13:50Speaker 3: It ain't exactly top of the range. Like, I can
- 13:53Speaker 3: see his boots. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
- 13:55Speaker 3: I shouldn't see his boots if it's the Black Plague.
- 13:58Speaker 3: He should be in full yellow. And there isn't a
- 14:01Speaker 3: fucking warning tape. This fella's walking through a park to
- 14:05Speaker 3: get to his car in full gear. Like, why is
- 14:08Speaker 3: he walking in any direction in full gear?
- 14:11Speaker 2: There was boys wearing safer suits operating on E.T.
- 14:15Speaker 3: Now you said it. Now you said it.
- 14:17Speaker 2: And, yeah, so... So do you know what we're going
- 14:20Speaker 2: to do, Tom? We're going to cross our fingers and
- 14:21Speaker 2: hope to circle back to this on Thursday. Maybe the
- 14:24Speaker 2: world will be in a fucking dreadful place on Thursday.
- 14:26Speaker 3: I just want people, just if they were going, Black Plague,
- 14:29Speaker 3: what's all these fucking, what's to worry about? Back in
- 14:32Speaker 3: the 14th century, anywhere, somewhere between, now this is a
- 14:37Speaker 3: broad sweep, but I mean, there wasn't much in the
- 14:39Speaker 3: way of counting back in the days. Most people couldn't count,
- 14:41Speaker 3: but it was anywhere between 75.
- 14:42Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't even have nine, Tom.
- 14:45Speaker 3: No, they didn't have nine, actually.
- 14:47Speaker 2: I haven't invented it yet. 75.
- 14:50Speaker 3: It was a great day when that got invented. 75
- 14:52Speaker 3: to 200 million people.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:55Speaker 2: That's a fucking... That's a death, Tom. That's a black death.
- 15:01Speaker 3: By all accounts, actually, I previously mentioned Genghis Khan was
- 15:04Speaker 3: the only other effect of this nature that actually altered
- 15:09Speaker 3: the carbon footprint of the world. Genghis Khan did the
- 15:13Speaker 3: same thing, but he didn't use a plague. He used swords.
- 15:17Speaker 3: And He was a plague of swords. He was a
- 15:19Speaker 3: plague of swords. The metal debt. Yeah.
- 15:21Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Well, let's hope that the fucking cold debt,
- 15:25Speaker 2: and I'm coining that phrase, folks, if this thing catches on.
- 15:28Speaker 2: The cold debt. I want to call it the cold debt,
- 15:30Speaker 2: and I want to fucking dime every time somebody says it, okay?
- 15:33Speaker 2: Jerry McBride, copyright, the cold debt. Not the Tom and
- 15:36Speaker 2: Jerry show.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Nope.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Jerry McBride, me. I'll give you a cut, maybe, Tom.
- 15:39Speaker 3: No, you're not. You're fucking on it. I'm not going
- 15:42Speaker 3: to see a bean.
- 15:44Speaker 2: I got one chance at fucking leaving the mark on
- 15:46Speaker 2: this world, Tom, and I'm putting it all on cold death.
- 15:52Speaker 2: At any rate, cold death notwithstanding, let us head off
- 15:58Speaker 2: to a slightly fucking warmer death. A death so warm
- 16:02Speaker 2: it didn't even take place. Let's talk about this week's
- 16:05Speaker 2: this slide. Now there's that guy.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Yeah. So, like, this started off, Tom, when I sent
- 16:13Speaker 2: it here, I was like, oh, fucking hell, look at this.
- 16:15Speaker 2: How about this? And then, like, it's one of these
- 16:17Speaker 2: ones that the more you read about it, the fucking
- 16:19Speaker 2: less funny it is.
- 16:20Speaker 3: What I did was.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Let's give it a go anyway.
- 16:22Speaker 3: I was driving to Cavan Friday night when... Friday evening
- 16:26Speaker 3: when I... I told the phone, you know, you can
- 16:28Speaker 3: tell the phone, hi. Hi. Phone. I said... read this
- 16:35Speaker 3: in audio and give me a full synopsis and backstory
- 16:37Speaker 3: on this. So I had about three to five minutes
- 16:40Speaker 3: of what you sent me. And I said, do you
- 16:43Speaker 3: want to reply to Gerry McBride? I went, say the
- 16:46Speaker 3: word animal.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Animal. Fucking hell.
- 16:49Speaker 3: This is Death Row.
- 16:51Speaker 2: I hate to say this, Tom, but you know, it's
- 16:57Speaker 2: not often you get these. Death Row Survivor.
- 17:00Speaker 3: Death Row Dodger.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Death Row... grand champion, Chris the Pike, who last week
- 17:07Speaker 2: was sentenced to death or put to death by lethal injection.
- 17:14Speaker 2: The first one didn't take, so they put her to
- 17:16Speaker 2: death by lethal injection again. And yet again, she kicked
- 17:22Speaker 2: out on two. She did, yeah. To the point where
- 17:24Speaker 2: people are like, what is it going to take to
- 17:26Speaker 2: kill this bitch?
- 17:27Speaker 3: This was, by all accounts, they heard snoring. A heartbeat
- 17:32Speaker 3: was still strong. raced a bit um after the second
- 17:36Speaker 3: one but they heard her actually snoring i mean.
- 17:42Speaker 2: So initially when you hear that you're like ball or
- 17:46Speaker 2: move uh when you get into the details of it
- 17:49Speaker 2: it's all a little bit more grim than that and
- 17:52Speaker 2: in fact the whole thing is is grim for days
- 17:54Speaker 2: so krista pike who is she she was sentenced to
- 17:57Speaker 2: death tom um for murder most foul when she was
- 18:00Speaker 2: a when she was a youth She and her then...
- 18:06Speaker 2: The boyfriend's name is going to take me just a
- 18:08Speaker 2: little past. He was only 17 at the time. So
- 18:12Speaker 2: he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility
- 18:15Speaker 2: of parole. And he's still there. But he was 17
- 18:18Speaker 2: at the time, so he couldn't be tried and get
- 18:19Speaker 2: the death penalty. Krista Pike at the time was 19.
- 18:23Speaker 2: This is the mid-90s. And the two of them lured
- 18:26Speaker 2: a lady called Colleen Slemmer into the woods. And then
- 18:31Speaker 2: they gave her an awful fucking death altogether. So she
- 18:34Speaker 2: got the death penalty. And now here we are, some
- 18:38Speaker 2: near 30 years later, Tom, the dice was finally rolled
- 18:42Speaker 2: on Krista Slemmer. There was all manners of clemency, please,
- 18:48Speaker 2: and all this kind of thing. Krista herself, come to
- 18:51Speaker 2: find out, had an awful childhood of abuse and the
- 18:53Speaker 2: devil knows what. Which manifests itself in more. There was
- 18:57Speaker 2: a bit of an alien Wernos case, you know what
- 18:59Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she went off and
- 19:01Speaker 2: killed all those fellas, but she herself was a victim,
- 19:03Speaker 2: a lifelong victim that could have been helped and saved
- 19:05Speaker 2: and all this kind of thing.
- 19:06Speaker 3: Yeah, great, I'll give you that, but.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Don't go killing no 19-year-old woman in the woods at
- 19:11Speaker 2: the same time.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Yeah, tell that to her mother.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Do you know that kind of way? Exactly, yeah. Colleen
- 19:16Speaker 2: Slammer's mother was 10 toes down on the execution of
- 19:20Speaker 2: Crystal Pike.
- 19:21Speaker 3: Was delighted to live to see it.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Yeah. More on that in a second.
- 19:25Speaker 3: She was, and I mean, there's an argument for, you know,
- 19:28Speaker 3: you need to stop the rot somewhere, and unfortunately, the
- 19:31Speaker 3: book needs to stop, fortunately or unfortunately, it needs to
- 19:33Speaker 3: stop with Krista. And lo and behold, they were all
- 19:37Speaker 3: sitting in, they were sitting in for it, there is
- 19:40Speaker 3: the screen and the curtain comes across.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Some things don't change, it's a very green mile, you know.
- 19:46Speaker 3: It is, and the curtain opened up, and there she
- 19:48Speaker 3: was on the table, and they gave her a first
- 19:50Speaker 3: shot of.
- 19:53Speaker 3: It's... What is it? It's... Oh, Christ, the name of
- 19:56Speaker 3: the stuff. It's a... Yeah, it's a barbiturate. So they
- 20:00Speaker 3: gave it to her and... She took it like a champ?
- 20:04Speaker 3: She took it like a champ and the next thing
- 20:07Speaker 3: the boys are looking at each other like, just pull
- 20:11Speaker 3: the curtain there pull the curtain there for one second
- 20:13Speaker 3: and the curtain closes.
- 20:14Speaker 2: You want to give her another shot there like you know.
- 20:16Speaker 3: It's what's in the fucking book this is cool I've
- 20:20Speaker 3: done hundreds of these it.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Says the half of this will kill a man twice
- 20:23Speaker 2: her size.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Did you mix it I didn't fucking need to mix
- 20:25Speaker 3: it it comes pre-mixed did you shake it I did
- 20:29Speaker 3: oh wait check the date check the date on it
- 20:32Speaker 3: no it's innate it's spot on everything's on well listen
- 20:35Speaker 3: quit fucking acting around give her another shot Do we
- 20:38Speaker 3: open the curtain again?
- 20:40Speaker 2: Open the curtain, give it the old, yeah. Tell them
- 20:43Speaker 2: the first one was just a.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Okay, this is an encore, guys. Don't normally do this,
- 20:47Speaker 3: but please welcome... If you don't like that, would you
- 20:50Speaker 3: like to see it again? Please welcome to the fucking
- 20:53Speaker 3: execution table. It's Christa Fyke, everybody. Round of applause, Christa. Everybody,
- 20:57Speaker 3: welcome back, Christa. Here we go, here we go, here
- 20:59Speaker 3: we go, here we go. This has never happened to us.
- 21:03Speaker 3: It would look like it's part of the act. Do
- 21:04Speaker 3: you know the way they failed once?
- 21:06Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is like James Brown limping off the stage.
- 21:08Speaker 3: He's like, nope, Brad.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Fucking dandy.
- 21:12Speaker 3: In they go again. And Christa just slips into a
- 21:15Speaker 3: coma but is snoring in front of everybody. And at
- 21:18Speaker 3: that stage you're thinking like, you know, like the Pope
- 21:20Speaker 3: must die. Did they have a little golden hammer to
- 21:22Speaker 3: just take out and go, here, fucking finish this. Old school.
- 21:25Speaker 2: Like, you know, it's, say what you want about the
- 21:30Speaker 2: death penalty, Tom. We're not going to get into it.
- 21:32Speaker 2: We're not that kind of podcast. I've always had a
- 21:34Speaker 2: ghoulish fascination with how people will just solemnly put people
- 21:39Speaker 2: to death, put them down like dogs. And people put
- 21:41Speaker 2: their hand up to take part in this. Like, lads
- 21:44Speaker 2: go to school to be executioners. And I'm like, this
- 21:47Speaker 2: is fucking ghoulish. There's something dreadfully wrong in the world
- 21:51Speaker 2: where this is a thing that takes place. But I
- 21:55Speaker 2: would have thought they'd be better at.
- 21:56Speaker 3: It than this. This is the thing. I'm like, what? Like,
- 21:59Speaker 3: there are... How do you fuck this up? We put the...
- 22:03Speaker 3: Here's the thing, right? We have... black boiler system here, right?
- 22:07Speaker 1: Yes.
- 22:08Speaker 2: And the.
- 22:09Speaker 3: I hadn't run it since the damn near winter of
- 22:13Speaker 3: last year, right? Damn near the spring of last year.
- 22:16Speaker 3: It started giving a bit of a knock on the
- 22:18Speaker 3: other night. Now there are three... I went up and
- 22:21Speaker 3: all it was is the pump just needed to tap
- 22:23Speaker 3: on and it started spinning again, the finest. Because pumps
- 22:25Speaker 3: sometimes will stick it to having gone in nine months, right?
- 22:27Speaker 3: It spun on again, no bother. But it had boiled up.
- 22:30Speaker 3: And there we have three stages of safety built in.
- 22:35Speaker 3: For if the water boils up and goes back up
- 22:37Speaker 3: into the tank too heavy. And the final one, like,
- 22:41Speaker 3: will rush it out of the house. Never had to
- 22:43Speaker 3: get to that one. One is a spare tank. The
- 22:47Speaker 3: second is flushing it with cold water once it goes
- 22:50Speaker 3: over a certain temperature and gets to a certain point.
- 22:52Speaker 3: And the third is, fuck, if all three of those fail,
- 22:55Speaker 3: it shoots it out the fucking soffit of the house. Yeah.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Never had to get to that one. Ger, that's a
- 22:59Speaker 3: fucking heating system in rural Ireland. Yes. How do you
- 23:03Speaker 3: not have a fucking backup plan for if this one
- 23:07Speaker 3: type of sauce you've brought to the party doesn't kill
- 23:10Speaker 3: the person that you don't go well okay because if
- 23:13Speaker 3: she doesn't sit up like the fucking undertaker tell everybody
- 23:17Speaker 3: she's fucking gone and there she is lads there she
- 23:20Speaker 3: is step out in front of her you take a
- 23:21Speaker 3: bow pull the fucking curtain turn around and fucking just
- 23:26Speaker 3: fucking taser her brain just have yeah just have Cletus.
- 23:29Speaker 2: The warden over in the corner going like bee She's
- 23:36Speaker 2: gone like.
- 23:39Speaker 3: Keep going, Cletus. But, like, no country for old men,
- 23:42Speaker 3: that shit. She, like, just a pneumatic rod. Gone. Good luck.
- 23:47Speaker 3: What are you fucking doing?
- 23:50Speaker 2: So, Krista's legal team who had been trying to get her,
- 23:54Speaker 2: you know, trying to beat this murder rap, okay, trying
- 23:57Speaker 2: to get her a good, healthy, live the rest of
- 23:59Speaker 2: your days behind bars, and to be honest with you, Tom,
- 24:01Speaker 2: I don't know how I'd take the prison. Not well,
- 24:03Speaker 2: I don't think. maybe I might be saying, you know,
- 24:08Speaker 2: give me a slap at the go to sleep there.
- 24:11Speaker 2: But no, they fought tooth and nail to get her
- 24:14Speaker 2: not exonerated, because she clearly did this fucking crime, Tom,
- 24:17Speaker 2: but not put to death. And they said, well, she
- 24:20Speaker 2: has got various vascular issues and her veins are too
- 24:25Speaker 2: thin to take a needle and you will struggle to
- 24:28Speaker 2: get drugs into her. Now, that is a thing.
- 24:30Speaker 3: That is a thing.
- 24:31Speaker 2: With like old people Older people, you know, sometimes if
- 24:34Speaker 2: they go to give blood or get bloods taken or
- 24:36Speaker 2: anything like that, you'll find old people saying, oh, they've
- 24:39Speaker 2: got it awful hard to get a vein. They've got
- 24:40Speaker 2: it awful hard to get a line into me, all
- 24:42Speaker 2: this kind of thing. That's a thing that happens, right?
- 24:44Speaker 2: But it must be said that any judge listening to,
- 24:47Speaker 2: please don't put Krista to death with lethal injection. Her
- 24:50Speaker 2: veins are too thin for it, would have been saying, yeah,
- 24:53Speaker 2: of course they are. Don't you worry. We'll get the
- 24:55Speaker 2: fucking special wee needles for you. That's some bollocks. Come
- 24:59Speaker 2: to find out, Tom, that's probably exactly what happened here.
- 25:02Speaker 2: is that the killing drug that they put into you
- 25:05Speaker 2: is a chemical. And if your veins are a certain
- 25:09Speaker 2: manner of it, it will kind of burn your vein
- 25:11Speaker 2: out before it goes to where it's supposed to go. Oh, shite, right.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Just dissipate into your... You know, so if you can imagine,
- 25:17Speaker 2: it's supposed to go up your arm and up your
- 25:19Speaker 2: shoulder and into your heart and around like this. And
- 25:20Speaker 2: it might burn itself out into the muscle of your
- 25:23Speaker 2: arm before it even leaves it because it burns the vein.
- 25:26Speaker 2: So then you go, okay, throw another drop into it
- 25:29Speaker 2: and all you're doing is throwing it into the drain
- 25:31Speaker 2: of your muscles. Oh, fuck. Which is enough to kind
- 25:34Speaker 2: of knock you out to sleep, but it's not the
- 25:36Speaker 2: one-shot chemical rod to the forehead that it should be.
- 25:40Speaker 3: Again, again, like that's my argument going, oh, is that right?
- 25:44Speaker 3: She's the tiny veins. She's the tiny veins, let's leave
- 25:46Speaker 3: off the chemicals.
- 25:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Okay, so we won't do the injecting one. Grand, well,
- 25:52Speaker 3: look at.
- 25:52Speaker 2: We'll tell people we did the injecting.
- 25:55Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
- 25:56Speaker 2: But we'll really give her the old.
- 25:58Speaker 3: when she lies down I step on the fucking the
- 26:02Speaker 3: little fucking pedal and pneumatic rod comes up and like
- 26:06Speaker 3: it does to quite literally millions of food destined animals
- 26:13Speaker 3: every day every.
- 26:14Speaker 2: Day so they didn't opt for that but you know
- 26:19Speaker 2: what I'm going to tell you it might be more
- 26:20Speaker 2: humane than what did fucking happen because Krista and again
- 26:24Speaker 2: this is the fucking ghoulishness of it all Tom When
- 26:27Speaker 2: they realized what had happened, that they had not successfully
- 26:30Speaker 2: put this woman to death, she was rushed to hospital.
- 26:33Speaker 3: No, you know, it's fucking irony.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Like.
- 26:36Speaker 3: The irony of it.
- 26:37Speaker 2: What fucking world are we living in here?
- 26:39Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, this woman we tried to kill is almost dead.
- 26:42Speaker 3: Let's take her to hospital.
- 26:43Speaker 2: This woman we tried to kill has survived. Well, let's
- 26:45Speaker 2: rectify that out. And they got her to intensive care
- 26:48Speaker 2: and they worked on her, God love her. She is...
- 26:53Speaker 2: initially you know you would think alright and then she
- 26:55Speaker 2: just wakes up and she's like god damn holy shit
- 26:57Speaker 2: is this heaven it looks an awful lot like it's
- 26:59Speaker 2: still Tennessee you sons of bitches and have a rare
- 27:03Speaker 2: old crack for Dr. Phil about this one no Krista
- 27:07Speaker 2: it seems might be you know remains to be seen
- 27:09Speaker 2: if she'll ever wake up from this like they really
- 27:12Speaker 2: kind of give her like some sort of permanent brain
- 27:16Speaker 2: injury from it so what the fuck have we gained.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Here Tom I think, look, you know, it might be
- 27:26Speaker 3: an option to start shooting people out of cannons.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Tom, I'm over here going like, this is an inhumane thing.
- 27:34Speaker 3: We should think about not doing it. Tom's over there like, cannons.
- 27:38Speaker 3: They're not putting that genie back in the box. Americans
- 27:41Speaker 3: love the dead penalty. That's the Tom and Jerry show.
- 27:44Speaker 3: That's what we do for problems. I'm over here like,
- 27:46Speaker 3: give a piece of chance. Tom's there like, just fucking cannons.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Drop her out of a plane.
- 27:52Speaker 3: Do you know, I mean, like our heroes of 1916
- 27:54Speaker 3: were shot in a firing squad. They've got loads of
- 27:57Speaker 3: guns in America.
- 27:59Speaker 2: Oh yeah, America's got no shortage of guns.
- 28:01Speaker 3: Like they've no shortage of ways of killing people.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Go to America and it takes your every effort to
- 28:07Speaker 2: fucking stay alive, Tom.
- 28:09Speaker 3: So like, how did they get there? Do you know
- 28:14Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, how do you get there, lads?
- 28:16Speaker 2: You know, it is the absolute biggest case of you
- 28:20Speaker 2: had one job.
- 28:22Speaker 3: The biggest case. You had one job Cletus. Like there
- 28:27Speaker 3: is nobody would argue with the method no regardless of
- 28:30Speaker 3: what it would be if it was instant. Do you
- 28:32Speaker 3: know what I mean? There's nobody sitting there like it's
- 28:35Speaker 3: like if it was more because apparently this barbiturates people
- 28:39Speaker 3: can go roaring. You know what I mean? It isn't
- 28:42Speaker 3: just like I'm going to slip off into a nice sleep.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:44Speaker 3: They can go roaring. So what I'm saying is pick
- 28:48Speaker 3: a more effective guaranteed 100% fucking thing Like the guillotine.
- 28:55Speaker 3: I'm just saying the guillotine, Ger.
- 28:56Speaker 2: How would you like to go? How would you like
- 28:58Speaker 2: to go? If you came to it. You've been arrested
- 29:00Speaker 2: for the murder of comedy.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Okay, and they're putting you out in the morning, Tom.
- 29:08Speaker 2: Real quick, what would you want to do? I'll tell
- 29:09Speaker 2: you mine.
- 29:10Speaker 3: Sharks.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Drop me at the back of an airplane.
- 29:12Speaker 3: Sharks.
- 29:13Speaker 2: You want sharks, I want an airplane. Drop me out
- 29:15Speaker 2: of the back of an airplane above a desert or
- 29:17Speaker 2: something like that. Like not off a cliff that I'm
- 29:20Speaker 2: going to live on. like two mile up in the
- 29:22Speaker 2: air just fucking dropped me on the ground splat and
- 29:25Speaker 2: you wanna you wanna you wanna get eaten by.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Sharks may as well may as well do you know
- 29:30Speaker 3: what I mean it's you'd be in the sea though
- 29:31Speaker 3: Tom you fucking hate the sea I fucking hate the
- 29:33Speaker 3: sea but you know what I deserve it I'm not
- 29:37Speaker 3: wild about falling to my death either.
- 29:40Speaker 2: For a finish for Cresta here, I'll tell you one thing.
- 29:43Speaker 2: They gave her two shots of the kill juice. And
- 29:51Speaker 2: you would have thought a third would probably do it, Tom.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Didn't have one. Didn't have one. This
- 29:56Speaker 2: was all the chemical they could muster. To do this job.
- 30:00Speaker 2: In actual fact, the execution had been postponed several times
- 30:03Speaker 2: because there was a shortage of the hurt juice.
- 30:08Speaker 3: What? Yeah.
- 30:10Speaker 2: Apparently it's not very common. Like, you know, it's not
- 30:12Speaker 2: just you just don't mix up a hot shot and
- 30:15Speaker 2: knock her out. It's a very, very specific chemical and
- 30:18Speaker 2: it's in short supply in the world.
- 30:19Speaker 3: Well, I know of a place where they can get
- 30:21Speaker 3: some stuff that'll fucking kill you inside 24 hours. And
- 30:28Speaker 3: they can sit and watch that whole movie in front
- 30:30Speaker 3: of them if they want, as she sits in the corner,
- 30:32Speaker 3: rotting away in a volapus with the pneumonic plague.
- 30:37Speaker 2: Chris, if you wouldn't do me a favour, just hold
- 30:38Speaker 2: this thin test tube for a wee minute there, would
- 30:40Speaker 2: you please? Yeah, good woman, yeah.
- 30:41Speaker 3: Don't drop it!
- 30:46Speaker 2: Well, listen, I don't know. There's this lad for you there.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Two fucking rough ones.
- 30:50Speaker 2: That was a rough one. That was a rough one. Yeah,
- 30:53Speaker 2: I got his name come the end of it. It
- 30:55Speaker 2: was Tadarrel. That was his name.
- 30:56Speaker 3: Yeah, Tadarrel. I mean, he's got trouble.
- 30:58Speaker 2: Tadarrel Ship.
- 31:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:02Speaker 2: The only Tadarrel I've ever fallen across in my time.
- 31:04Speaker 2: And fuck him too. Even though he was a minor
- 31:07Speaker 2: at the time. I don't know. I don't know, Tom.
- 31:10Speaker 2: You should know not to be at what you're at.
- 31:12Speaker 3: No, they have to stop the rot, Jerry. You have
- 31:13Speaker 3: to nip that out, unfortunately. If that turned up in
- 31:16Speaker 3: horse breeding or turned up in, you know, dog breeding,
- 31:19Speaker 3: whatever like that, that situation would be dealt with. That
- 31:22Speaker 3: can't continue into the bloodline. You can't let that back
- 31:25Speaker 3: into society. I know it's a harsh, cold way of
- 31:26Speaker 3: looking at things, but that's the society we live in nowadays,
- 31:29Speaker 3: if you ask me.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Well, I'm confident when they do eventually kill this woman, Tom,
- 31:31Speaker 2: that it will be the last murder in America ever.
- 31:34Speaker 2: Come here, we will fucking rock and roll on to
- 31:37Speaker 2: the final segment of the show. We remember things from
- 31:40Speaker 2: our 45 years on this rock. Or in the instance
- 31:42Speaker 2: this week, Tom, we remember things that might have happened
- 31:44Speaker 2: last week. It's We Remember When. When I was a
- 31:47Speaker 2: young lad, 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.
- 31:50Speaker 3: Oh, this is a first. This is a first where
- 31:54Speaker 3: it rolls over, but it has had.
- 31:56Speaker 2: To roll over. Yeah, we couldn't get the job done
- 31:57Speaker 2: last week, and we threw it open.
- 31:59Speaker 3: Much like Krista's executioner self.
- 32:02Speaker 2: Christa yeah nobody got fucking nothing done we got like
- 32:06Speaker 2: your lassie unleashing the cold death TM over in Russia
- 32:08Speaker 2: we got the fucking lads can't kill Christa best they
- 32:11Speaker 2: tried and we could not decide who was the winner
- 32:15Speaker 2: of the kitchen committee um which was where we we
- 32:19Speaker 2: we we we faced off several kitchen appliances to get
- 32:23Speaker 2: the one socket left on your kitchen countertop you've got
- 32:27Speaker 2: three sockets Tom One goes to the toaster, one goes
- 32:30Speaker 2: to the kettle, and you've got one socket left. We
- 32:34Speaker 2: put forward eight appliances. Only one could get it. Now,
- 32:38Speaker 2: you and I chased this hateful eight down to two appliances,
- 32:43Speaker 2: the deep fat fryer or the sandwich toaster. Yeah. We
- 32:47Speaker 2: wanted people to help us pick between them. And then
- 32:50Speaker 2: it got lost in translation and I threw open the
- 32:52Speaker 2: floor to all eight for people to vote on.
- 32:54Speaker 3: To be fair, I think.
- 32:55Speaker 2: What the hell? And they divulged from our part early on, Tom.
- 32:59Speaker 3: Early! Jeez, I was amazed.
- 33:01Speaker 2: But do you know what it was?
- 33:02Speaker 3: Straight away. I suppose it was currently how we feel
- 33:05Speaker 3: right now, I think is what people were going on.
- 33:08Speaker 3: When we were going on a kind of a, could
- 33:10Speaker 3: we relive our nostalgia? Because it is the we remember when.
- 33:13Speaker 3: So we kind of fucked off the things. I think
- 33:16Speaker 3: our argument stood for a lot of stuff. Now, none
- 33:19Speaker 3: of it was healthy.
- 33:20Speaker 2: Oh, I stand by it at all, Tom, yeah.
- 33:21Speaker 3: None of it was healthy at all, at all, in
- 33:24Speaker 3: what we were doing. And I think that was part
- 33:26Speaker 3: of the thing. It was just, what do our inner
- 33:29Speaker 3: child brains love when it comes to food production and
- 33:32Speaker 3: food gear? And that's kind of why and how we
- 33:36Speaker 3: ended up where we ended up. Because we're like, we
- 33:38Speaker 3: ended up with the... I almost said the cheese toasty
- 33:42Speaker 3: because really you can't make a toasty. No. What kind
- 33:45Speaker 3: of maniac would do that?
- 33:48Speaker 2: I will and we'll just cut to the chase here
- 33:50Speaker 2: folks that if we had given the podcast another five
- 33:53Speaker 2: minutes last week we would almost certainly have picked the
- 33:55Speaker 2: deep fat fryer as the out and out winner of
- 33:58Speaker 2: the Kitchen Appliance. Everybody in the comments was saying it
- 34:00Speaker 2: was a smelly fuck of a thing but I'm going
- 34:03Speaker 2: to tell you one thing now. Cheese toasty you got
- 34:06Speaker 2: me doing now. A cheese toasty maker fails For how
- 34:09Speaker 2: you can't put a fucking tomato in that thing. If
- 34:11Speaker 2: you ever want to see the roof of your mouth.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Function ever again.
- 34:14Speaker 3: Volcanic tomatoes. Yeah.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Volcanic tomatoes. Kind of loses it for the sandwich toaster.
- 34:18Speaker 3: In the end. It was. And I honestly though. I
- 34:20Speaker 3: mean I was driving. Again. I was thinking I was
- 34:22Speaker 3: going near. I was nearly at Edwards Town.
- 34:25Speaker 1: And.
- 34:25Speaker 3: I'm like. Jesus Christ, there are valid points to be
- 34:29Speaker 3: made for everything here. I was listening to the podcast
- 34:31Speaker 3: back and I'm like, there are valid points to be
- 34:33Speaker 3: made for everything here.
- 34:34Speaker 2: I agree with everything we said.
- 34:35Speaker 3: But as I was driving past, no, Virginia, I was
- 34:39Speaker 3: coming through Virginia.
- 34:39Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 34:41Speaker 3: And they looked like a cracking chipper as I was
- 34:44Speaker 3: kind of stopped in traffic for a moment. I went,
- 34:46Speaker 3: you know what? Much like, as I said to Gerry,
- 34:48Speaker 3: if somebody handed me out fucking air fried chips in
- 34:50Speaker 3: a bag, like, oh, oh no, I think you misunderstood
- 34:54Speaker 3: what I wanted here.
- 34:56Speaker 2: That's not the stuff here, baby.
- 34:58Speaker 3: That's not the stuff. So I'm still going to just
- 35:02Speaker 3: go my child brain, my inner lovely brain. It's a
- 35:07Speaker 3: deep fat fryer all day long.
- 35:09Speaker 2: The listeners of the Tom and Gerry show disagreed with
- 35:11Speaker 2: us early and often, Tom. In fact, over on Spotify,
- 35:15Speaker 2: Deirdre chimed in. Deirdre, how are you doing? She says
- 35:18Speaker 2: that she cooks spuds in a microwave. Not a strong
- 35:21Speaker 2: opening gambit there, Deirdre. She also cooks scrambled eggs, vegetables,
- 35:25Speaker 2: popcorn soup, chicken breasts, and a shitload of stuff. That's
- 35:28Speaker 2: in the microwave, but her air fryer can cook a
- 35:30Speaker 2: whole chicken, a stew, and it's also a pressure cooker.
- 35:33Speaker 2: I think that's the one we have. Then she goes
- 35:35Speaker 2: on to claim deep-fat fire food tastes shite after the
- 35:38Speaker 2: oil has been in it for more than a few days,
- 35:40Speaker 2: and they stink up the house. No lies detected, but,
- 35:43Speaker 2: you know, for those first couple of days.
- 35:45Speaker 3: That's what I was saying. There is still, in all
- 35:48Speaker 3: the things there... I think stepping away from the machine's efficiency. Like,
- 35:54Speaker 3: there's a reason why I love a 1990s Corolla. There's
- 35:59Speaker 3: a reason for it there. You feel everything you're driving.
- 36:02Speaker 3: It's just a lovely.
- 36:03Speaker 2: It ain't the air conditioning.
- 36:05Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's got... You know what I mean?
- 36:07Speaker 3: It's got none of its fucking... It doesn't have fucking
- 36:09Speaker 3: Android or Apple Play. There's something raw. And yes, will
- 36:14Speaker 3: I be sick of the fucking thing come fucking Wednesday?
- 36:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 36:17Speaker 3: Absolutely. It still doesn't stop me. Do you know, there
- 36:20Speaker 3: are still notions in my head that I could wear
- 36:22Speaker 3: a leather jacket and pull it off. Like, I could not.
- 36:25Speaker 1: I know that full fucking well.
- 36:26Speaker 3: And I'd look like a knob.
- 36:27Speaker 2: Disappear yourself with those notions, Tom.
- 36:29Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, but it's the same
- 36:31Speaker 3: thing with the deep fat fryer. I don't want to
- 36:33Speaker 3: think about the negative. This is a weekend in Vegas
- 36:35Speaker 3: I'm talking about here. Do you know what I mean? Yeah,
- 36:38Speaker 3: she's crazy. Yes, you shouldn't have given her your second name.
- 36:41Speaker 3: But look, the deep fat fryer, it cannot be beaten
- 36:47Speaker 3: when it has fresh oil in it. It can't be
- 36:49Speaker 3: beaten for anything that comes out of a microwave or
- 36:52Speaker 3: air fryer. I'll agree. But in the long term, as
- 36:55Speaker 3: we said, we both here, we don't have deep fat fryers.
- 36:59Speaker 3: We have air fryers.
- 37:00Speaker 2: It must be said, yeah.
- 37:01Speaker 3: We don't. We've moved with society.
- 37:03Speaker 2: For all our love of them, yeah.
- 37:04Speaker 3: But there's something dirty, bold and fucking raunchy about it.
- 37:09Speaker 3: Fucking fried chips.
- 37:12Speaker 2: A fried chip from the... You know, I know where
- 37:15Speaker 2: I'm sticking an intruder's hand if they break into the house, Tom.
- 37:18Speaker 2: Although if they break into the house at night, I'm
- 37:20Speaker 2: not going to wait for the deep fat fire to
- 37:21Speaker 2: warm up. What the fuck am I talking about? Tom,
- 37:23Speaker 2: over at the comments on Instagram, initially it was said
- 37:27Speaker 2: by Alan that the microwave should win this in a
- 37:29Speaker 2: clean sweep. It's the most reliable and versatile device. It's
- 37:32Speaker 2: a classic. The rest are fads. And also, Rans, you
- 37:36Speaker 2: waited until George Foreman died before you came out with
- 37:38Speaker 2: that fucking blasphemy.
- 37:39Speaker 3: Alan... yeah like George is calling over to Alan's house
- 37:45Speaker 3: going excuse me excuse me have you a problem with
- 37:49Speaker 3: my take a move.
- 37:51Speaker 2: And we all says didn't have a deep fire but
- 37:53Speaker 2: after listening and remembering having proper chips it's time to
- 37:55Speaker 2: return to one we're influencers Tom there you go and
- 37:59Speaker 2: then finally over here or not finally just on this
- 38:02Speaker 2: subject here Gary says the deep fat fire is a
- 38:04Speaker 2: clear winner because you can't make a scotch egg in
- 38:07Speaker 2: a sandwich toaster that's beautiful man well well put well
- 38:13Speaker 2: put my wife My wife, it must be said. My
- 38:16Speaker 2: wife had thoughts on the subject. She was mad as hell.
- 38:19Speaker 2: All the shit I do and this is what she
- 38:21Speaker 2: gets mad at. She was mad that we even had
- 38:25Speaker 2: a microwave in these brackets because as far as she's concerned,
- 38:29Speaker 2: a microwave is as integral to a kitchen as a
- 38:33Speaker 2: kettle and a toaster. Right. You just would naturally have it.
- 38:36Speaker 2: It's not something that you'd be sitting around thinking, do
- 38:38Speaker 2: you know what I might get? Everybody's talking about it.
- 38:39Speaker 2: A microwave. Her thing was like, if you have a
- 38:42Speaker 2: kitchen with a sink in.
- 38:43Speaker 3: It, You have to have a microwave. And here's the
- 38:46Speaker 3: interesting thing. Miss O'Mahony here won't have one. Won't have one?
- 38:50Speaker 3: I don't know. It's from her childhood. She has a notion. Again,
- 38:55Speaker 3: the things. Won't have it.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Well, here we go.
- 38:59Speaker 3: There you go.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Here we go. Here's how the bracketing broke down. And
- 39:02Speaker 2: we're not going to go through all this again like
- 39:05Speaker 2: we did at length. And if this is deleted off Instagram,
- 39:08Speaker 2: we're not going to fucking go to Nottentown. We're just
- 39:09Speaker 2: going to go to the followers on social media and
- 39:12Speaker 2: leave it at that. Okay, so we broke down sandwich
- 39:16Speaker 2: toaster and Nespresso machine. Audience gave it to the sandwich toaster.
- 39:20Speaker 3: Okay.
- 39:20Speaker 2: No, fair enough.
- 39:21Speaker 3: No, no.
- 39:22Speaker 2: That's fine. Air fryer and slow cooker. Air fryer made
- 39:25Speaker 2: it out of this bracket. Not the slow cooker.
- 39:27Speaker 3: Okay.
- 39:28Speaker 2: All right.
- 39:29Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 39:30Speaker 2: The Microwave beat the George Foreman and the Deep Fat
- 39:32Speaker 2: Fryer beat the NutriBullet, which is where we had it
- 39:34Speaker 2: as well.
- 39:35Speaker 3: To be fair, I'm not overly surprised. Like, listening back
- 39:38Speaker 3: to it, I was like, there are certainly arguments for
- 39:41Speaker 3: the Microwave beating the Slow Cooker. There really is.
- 39:44Speaker 2: I would.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Again, again... Don't have a slow cooker. In this long time.
- 39:49Speaker 3: And don't fucking miss it. But I just think. Of
- 39:52Speaker 3: the num num stuff. That comes out of it. I
- 39:54Speaker 3: just feel.
- 39:54Speaker 2: The num num stuff.
- 39:55Speaker 3: Anything that has ever. Come out of a microwave. For
- 39:57Speaker 3: me is like.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 39:59Speaker 3: It's warm.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 40:01Speaker 3: Yeah. Grant. Yeah.
- 40:02Speaker 2: You've warmed it. I don't know what else. You've added
- 40:04Speaker 2: to the equation. Semi-finalist Tom. Went from sandwich toaster. To
- 40:08Speaker 2: air fryer. Air fryer won. Air fryer was long gone.
- 40:12Speaker 2: For us at this stage here.
- 40:13Speaker 3: Probably the versatility.
- 40:14Speaker 2: I mean like you know. The versatility of an air fryer.
- 40:17Speaker 2: You can. For all you say about it, you can't
- 40:19Speaker 2: cook more than sandwiches, so.
- 40:21Speaker 3: This is, I think our listeners are more realists than
- 40:24Speaker 3: we actually are.
- 40:24Speaker 2: I have no fucking doubt about that, Tom.
- 40:26Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Because from the get-go,
- 40:29Speaker 3: we were parking the air fryer because of its fucking boringness. Like,
- 40:33Speaker 3: it's pure fucking Alan Partridge-ness. You know, aha! Like, it's nice, great.
- 40:39Speaker 3: What are you going to kind of cook for me now?
- 40:41Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, there's, like, you'll never
- 40:44Speaker 3: go off. That's amazing.
- 40:46Speaker 2: Oh, sweet. Yeah, air fryer. I'll be honest with you, Tom.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Air fryer was only on this because we needed eight
- 40:50Speaker 2: to make up the brackets. Microwave versus deep fat fryer.
- 40:54Speaker 2: Deep fat fryer falls. Flawless victory. That wasn't even close.
- 40:58Speaker 2: Everybody voted.
- 40:59Speaker 3: Was it not?
- 41:00Speaker 2: Not even slightly close. And then it came down to
- 41:03Speaker 2: the final, Tom. The air fryer versus the microwave. Nobody's
- 41:07Speaker 2: dying tonight. Nobody's getting a lovely deep fat fried scotch egg.
- 41:11Speaker 2: Nobody's getting a big greasy... Toasty sandwich is down to
- 41:15Speaker 2: the air fryer and the microwave. Closer than you would
- 41:17Speaker 2: care to think, Tom. The audience hands the kitchen kumite,
- 41:22Speaker 2: the popular vote, 55 to 45 to the air fryer.
- 41:27Speaker 3: Fuck.
- 41:28Speaker 2: So what does this tell us, Tom, about our relationship
- 41:31Speaker 2: with our listeners? When we picked the actual fucking least healthy, greasiest, dirtiest, smelliest,
- 41:38Speaker 2: I'm not fucking cleaning a thing you could possibly have
- 41:41Speaker 2: in your house. And our audience is like, no, air
- 41:44Speaker 2: frying is the way to go. What else do we
- 41:46Speaker 2: not know about our audience? Do they fucking give a
- 41:49Speaker 2: fuck about Fred Dibna? Do they wear goggles when they're
- 41:54Speaker 2: doing their DIY? Do they do a DIY? Do they
- 41:57Speaker 2: get a man in to do the DIY, Tom?
- 42:00Speaker 3: Here's the thing, right? I think our audience are us
- 42:03Speaker 3: because the reality is, like I said before, we don't
- 42:06Speaker 3: have a deep fat fryer, either one of us between us.
- 42:09Speaker 3: And if I did, I'd probably cook stuff in it
- 42:11Speaker 3: for three days. Then catch the whole lot, oil and all,
- 42:14Speaker 3: and fuck it out. You know what I mean? Rather
- 42:16Speaker 3: than having to clean it. But I think we maybe
- 42:20Speaker 3: got off on... And this is where sometimes just enough
- 42:25Speaker 3: explanation isn't in the fucking thing. In that we were
- 42:29Speaker 3: speaking from a nostalgic we remember when point of view.
- 42:33Speaker 3: They were talking about we are talking about now. Not
- 42:36Speaker 3: we remember when. We're talking about fucking now.
- 42:39Speaker 2: Honestly, Tom, I didn't even put that on it. It
- 42:42Speaker 2: was just very simply, here's these items, have at it
- 42:46Speaker 2: what you will, whether you like it now, like it then,
- 42:49Speaker 2: like the taste of it, whether you eat food or
- 42:51Speaker 2: don't eat food, whether you just admire this from a
- 42:53Speaker 2: technical standpoint or an aesthetic standpoint, in which case the
- 42:57Speaker 2: Nutribullet would probably win that because that's a fucking sleek
- 42:59Speaker 2: piece of machinery.
- 43:00Speaker 3: Nespresso's pretty nice to look at as well.
- 43:02Speaker 2: Yeah, it must be said, yeah.
- 43:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:04Speaker 2: But everybody on the Tom and Jerry audience, well, you know,
- 43:07Speaker 2: 55% of them at least, A Trump share, shall we say,
- 43:12Speaker 2: came down for the air fryer. And we've got to
- 43:15Speaker 2: parse that information, Tom, but we've got to bring it
- 43:17Speaker 2: into our content going forward if we want to be
- 43:19Speaker 2: a successful podcast.
- 43:20Speaker 3: I don't think so, because if that was the case...
- 43:23Speaker 3: Tom's like, no, fuck them. You know I can't take
- 43:28Speaker 3: a backward step on this at all. I'm just trying
- 43:30Speaker 3: to break it down. Guys, you're right and we're right.
- 43:33Speaker 3: Let's just walk our separate ways. and let's not have
- 43:36Speaker 3: a fight no totally we should have i i wouldn't
- 43:39Speaker 3: fight somebody to death on it but i would imagine
- 43:41Speaker 3: that they would if they explain to him okay okay
- 43:46Speaker 3: right i will offer an olive branch i will be
- 43:50Speaker 3: i will not even an olive branch but let's let's
- 43:52Speaker 3: do this let's go let's dig deeper for the audience
- 43:54Speaker 3: if you i would love to hear comments on this
- 43:56Speaker 3: one right and i've been bang this is the drum
- 43:58Speaker 3: i've been banging since the fucking beginning on this one
- 44:00Speaker 3: this is why the air fryer Didn't make it. And
- 44:02Speaker 3: it was nearly too much of a cliche thing to
- 44:04Speaker 3: fucking make it through anyway. We don't do cliche. In
- 44:09Speaker 3: the morning. Or tomorrow evening, right? You get in from work.
- 44:13Speaker 3: I'm sitting in your kitchen. Okay, creepy. But you knew
- 44:16Speaker 3: I was going to be there. I've got your air
- 44:17Speaker 3: fryer going. And I've got you a brand new, let's
- 44:20Speaker 3: say fucking Zanussi. Or whoever makes deep fryers these days.
- 44:24Speaker 3: I don't know. And I'm cooking you chips. In either
- 44:27Speaker 3: one of them. made you a cracking burger on the
- 44:31Speaker 3: barbecue outside but I need to cook the chips and
- 44:34Speaker 3: something and I have these two bits of kit set
- 44:37Speaker 3: up outside right let's not even I'm going to fuck
- 44:40Speaker 3: them both in the bin afterwards which one as listeners
- 44:44Speaker 3: I know Jerry because Jerry's slapping his lips here now
- 44:46Speaker 3: half looked going fucking thinking he'll order a bag of
- 44:49Speaker 3: chips from some lad to cycle him up to the
- 44:50Speaker 3: house which one do you want to play the chips
- 44:54Speaker 3: from and that's where that's where my thinking was It's very.
- 44:58Speaker 2: Possible this week people will come into the house and go,
- 44:59Speaker 2: do you know what, actually, I'm not in the humour
- 45:01Speaker 2: for chips this evening. I knocked over this thing at work.
- 45:03Speaker 2: I'm broke. I'm in a lot of trouble. Come here.
- 45:06Speaker 3: There you go.
- 45:07Speaker 2: That's what you get for being listeners of the Tom
- 45:09Speaker 2: and Gerry show. You get to join in with the
- 45:11Speaker 2: crack every now and then. Thank you very kindly for that.
- 45:14Speaker 2: I had a good time, it must be said. Didn't
- 45:16Speaker 2: eat up too much on my weekend making fucking polls,
- 45:17Speaker 2: but here we are. If you want to get in
- 45:20Speaker 2: on the crack going forward, you can join us over
- 45:22Speaker 2: on our social media channels at Tom and Gerry show.
- 45:25Speaker 2: Tom with a T, Gerry with a G. will get
- 45:28Speaker 2: us on Instagram is our haunted choice if you want
- 45:30Speaker 2: to follow me you'll find me over on Blue Skies
- 45:34Speaker 2: Tom O'Mahony's haunted choice is Instagram I.
- 45:37Speaker 3: Do I say it every week but I actually really
- 45:40Speaker 3: I get a great kick out of following the Tom
- 45:42Speaker 3: and Gerry show at least because I'm but nothing actually
- 45:45Speaker 3: to do with me being involved in it but it's
- 45:47Speaker 3: just a really really good content fucking channel do give
- 45:50Speaker 3: us the five stars on whatever platform you're listening to
- 45:52Speaker 3: if you have never done it do it now you're
- 45:54Speaker 3: only allowed I think on Spotify you can do it
- 45:56Speaker 3: the once or whatever We're rocking the five stars. Chime
- 45:59Speaker 3: in for everything so far. I mean, is there another
- 46:02Speaker 3: option for doing away with your one? What is Russia
- 46:05Speaker 3: fucking up to? And also, hit me back. Which type
- 46:10Speaker 3: of chips do you want from Tom? To accompany the
- 46:13Speaker 3: homemade fucking one.
- 46:14Speaker 2: We've got to let it go. It's been two weeks, Tom.
- 46:16Speaker 3: No, I need this. No, I can't let this fully go, Ger.
- 46:20Speaker 3: I need to know right now. Which chips do you
- 46:23Speaker 3: want from Tom? Do you want hand-cut, deep-fried fucking chips?
- 46:28Speaker 3: in a deep fat fryer or do you want the
- 46:30Speaker 3: ones out of the bag frozen to fuck thrown into
- 46:33Speaker 3: a drawer and taken back out 25 minutes later.
- 46:36Speaker 2: You tell me I'll accept it either way never let
- 46:39Speaker 2: it be said that you lead the witness there your
- 46:42Speaker 2: honour alright ok all this talk of chips has me
- 46:47Speaker 2: feeling spuddy I'm going to get it out of here.
- 46:49Speaker 3: Buddy I want to taste a thing for another week
- 46:51Speaker 3: with the way this cold is heading up
- 46:53Speaker 2: The way these fucking Russians are coming on this episode
- 46:56Speaker 2: might never ever go on Good luck.