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Ignition - Full Gear Fallout Show · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday night. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with
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aw Fanhab I'm your host Kelson, and we're here with a very small panel.
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On Thanksgiving week. We have Andre with us tonight, whose house I
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don't know, and we have Achi with us tonight h oh swears house.
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Of course. See there, you can't get much past me. It may
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take me a while, but I'll get there, you know it. I
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tell you what. After the busy week we had last week in a w
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I just you know, I'm happy that I have any facilities left because that
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was a busy week of course, culminating with full gear on Saturday Night.
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Tonight's show, we're going to be doing a little bit different because we normally
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do a little bit of a preview for Dynamite, but as of recording this,
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we really don't know what the heck is going on on Dynamite, so
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there's no sense in talking about it. So we're gonna talk about a few
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things. We're gonna talk about. At the very end of the show,
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we're gonna try to talk about who do we think that aw should sign next.
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We've got a lot of signings recently, so we're gonna talk about that.
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Uh, We're gonna talk about some spicy predictions for the Continental Championship.
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We're gonna talk about what's going on with the with the Young Bucks, and
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we're going to talk about the title changes in Forbid Door. But we're gonna
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start with what we thought were the best and worst moments of Forbid Door.
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And boy, that's kind of a loaded question. What do you say,
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Andre? Yeah, well, you guys know me. I don't like being
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too negative, so but if you don't mind, I'm gonna start with the
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bad and I'm gonna end with a good and with me, the best and
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worst of Full Gear are kind of connected, actually, so the worst for
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me and I'm gonna probably get a lot of hate for this, the swerve
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and hand Man Hangman, just the barbaric violence. I love a good hardcore
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match. I enjoyed the hell out of the ladder match because there were crazy
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spots, showed a lot of athleticism, it looked cool. I don't like
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hardcore matches when it comes to stabbing people with forks and barbed wires and putting
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thumbtacks in people's mouths and staple guns. I don't like that stuff. It's
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just I don't know, Like I'm trying not to ramble, but yeah,
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I think you get the point. You know. It's just at the end
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of the day, I know that these guys are basically actors. They don't
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really hate each other, but they're mutilating each other and someone who has a
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lot of health problems and I've I'm literally like three million into like health bill
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that I've paid in my life. I just see them hurting each other and
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it just it makes me feel uncomfortable. I get why they do it.
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It makes for a great story, but not my cup of tea. But
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on the flip side, the positive, I am so happy that Swerve one.
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I love that his momentum is on a roll. He's like red hot.
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He's like the hottest right now besides maybe MJF and I'm just super excited.
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I hope they can keep it going with him all the way to the
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finish line. Ah, that was so much. I'm sorry, ACKI Well,
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the thing is is, I didn't watch full Gear, so I can
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only talk about the small clips that I saw, and the small clips I
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saw was I guess not much, so I can't really say much. So
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pass it on to kill some So so the worst was that you didn't see
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the show. Yeah, basically, well that's just not good. I mean,
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you missed out on something. You know, we're gonna keep this going.
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I should be thinking about something else that you Andrea especially, I mean,
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Aki, I know you're kind of out of the loop on this,
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but because you didn't see the show, and I think you'll be able to
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talk about, you know, the other two other segments we're going to talk
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about. But Andre, you know, I want to hear some more from
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you about the show, you know, but my best and worst at a
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night, and I guess Andre, I'll just address with what you said when
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we were in the Reddit live chat during the swerve and and Hagman added page
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match. There were a lot of exclamations there that I can't say here.
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I mean, it was just it was just and it was rightfully so because
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I said some of them. But I do love seeing people punctured. It's
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just the thing of mine. You know. I love the horror films because
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I was like, oh, that looks cool, you know, the knife
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going through the side of people's heads and stuff like that. Very morbid stuff.
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But I don't mind the side of blood, but this it was a
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little bit weird. I'll tell you what I thought. When I was describing
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the batch to somebody, I said, and then they brought bob barbed wire
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out, they ail to a board, and everybody was like, Oh,
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thank God, back to normalcy now, you know, is that's what it
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was. I'm going to agree with you because I love horror movies. I
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love saws like they're some of my favorite movies. There's plenty of blood and
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gore in that. But to me, I know that it's it's fake.
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But like these people are literally just doing it, hurting themselves legit and it's
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just I don't know, it's just different to me. Yeah, But you
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know, overall on the show. One of the things that I found really
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really strange going through our YouTube channel and the comments onto YouTube and the comments
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on Blue Sky and even on Twitter and on of course read it. People
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either loved full gear or the or they hated it. There was no in
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between. There was no middle ground. It was either people gave it a
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two or they gave it an eight, you know what I mean. There
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was no fives on a scale of one to ten. That's the way,
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And that's kind of mind blowing because I personally gave it an eight out of
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ten. I did find it. There was a couple of week spots in
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the show, you know that was not perfect, but it wasn't that bad.
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For example, I didn't really and I know a lot of people didn't.
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It's not that they didn't care. I think they were just too exhausted
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after watching the Swerve an Hangman match to really pay attention and get invested in
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the Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks match. Anything go ahead.
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Yeah. I made a funny comment in the chat. I said,
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I cannot believe I'm seeing the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, and Chris Jericho
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in the piss break match of a pay per view. That's just that does
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sound right, And it wasn't a mean thing to say. It was the
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truth, you know. It was like, it wasn't that it was Kenny
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Omega and the Young Bucks and Chris Jericho. It could have been anybody.
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Anybody could have been MGF and Jay White. It could have been any match
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on the card. They could have brought the rock in and that you're not
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kidding me. They could have had the will Osprey segment where they signed will
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Osprey. They could have done that and it wouldn't have gone over because that
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haeg Man, Adam Page and Square Strickland match literally just sucked the wind out
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of everybody in a good way in most ways, I think, but it
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just was. Yeah, people needed like ten minutes of you know, maybe
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a silent movie from Tony Storm just to recover from it, you know what
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I mean. That would have been the perfect thing. And now Tony Storm's
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latest blockbuster played on the screen to get it over with. I do think
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that this match, which will go down in history as one of the most
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memorable matches ever, unless they do these every year, you know, then
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we're gonna get the sensitized. But to me, this might not age well.
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But this is like the modern day Undertaker and Mankind Hell in the Cell.
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Like it had that shock value in my opinion. Yeah, I did
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add the shock value. You know. We spent a lot of time talking
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about this particular match, the Texas Death Match, but there were a lot
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of other things in this match, so I did want to just run through
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my best and worst on that. I actually really like Zero Hour for the
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most part, you know, I'm not an Eddie Kingston fan. I didn't
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really care for that match because that was the only match during Zero Hour they
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kind of had some had no seed of doubt, you know what I mean.
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There was no way that Eddie Kingston was going to lose that match.
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It was nice to see Eddie Kingston out there defending, but there was no
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way was to lose it. But when it came to the MGSMO and Joe
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you know against you know, against the Guns, you never knew what was
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gonna happen. And something happened, you know, during that match and the
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quaudio match. Oh god, who did he fight? I can't I have
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Matthews? Oh god, Buddy Matthews. That was an excellent match. And
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I'm sorry, Buddy, but I forgot I forgot who you were for a
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second there. But that was a really good match. And again, you
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didn't know if the House of Black was going to come out and interfere and
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things like that, you know what I mean. So, Oki, did
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you get to see Zero Hour? Were you just not available to watch even
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the free part? Okay? Well, you know, ultimately, you know,
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again, if I had to say the worst of the night, I
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would have to go with the Eddie Kingston match simply because, and again this
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is nothing against Eddie Kingston at all, there just wasn't a seated out in
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it for me. And the match with Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho against the
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Bucks. I mean, I was too exhausted to pay attention. I was
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still kind of reeling when MGF and j White fought now MJF and J White.
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That match got a lot of shit online. I mean, people were
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like, that is the worst pay per view main event ever? Do I
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agree with it? It wasn't the greatest, but it wasn't the worst.
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There's no way it was the worst. People who were saying just being stupid.
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I thought the match was great. I thought the whole storyline throughout that
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I was a little bit convoluted because it just we kind of got to where
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we were advertising in the first place, which just took like a really weird
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detour to get there. But the match was amazing. I liked it a
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lot. And that cutter that MJF did over the top rope or RKO for
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some of you who may not know what a cutter is, that was that
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elbow drop off. I hope he's Okay, that was I would have made
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it. I would have called an audible on that. When the when the
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desk that had too many screws taken out of it just simply collapsed when they
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laid when laid J White on top of it, you know, yeah,
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that was you know what. But here I'm gonna say something. There are
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a lot of people in the community that absolutely hated that match. And I'm
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gonna say that the matches of what they hated, they hated all the bs
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that led up to it. I mean, think about it. So you
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had you had MJF get injured during zero hour after he got attacked by the
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guns. Okay, he's taken out in an ambulance. Then he gets Adam
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Cole the sub in for him, fighting for the World Championship, AW World
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Championship. Okay, so we're talking about AW. You who uses Doc Samson
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and the doctors you know have not cleared so and so you know for no
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chipping a toenail. You know, yeah, we got a guy with steel
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plates and an ankle broken, it had two surgeries two weeks ago. You're
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gonna let him go? You got mean? Okay? And then at then
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you had MJF come into the arena by the ambulance right in the nick of
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time, timed it perfectly, what doctor's cleared him. You know, it
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just I need logic, a little bit of logic. I understand that it's
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a you know, it's a show and whatnot, but don't make me feel
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stupid. While watching you, I thought it was hilarious that Adam Cole came
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out on one leg to fight in this main event, and everybody seems to
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be okay with it. But then when MJF came, all the security try
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to stop him because he was too quote unquote injured to perform, and that
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was just ridiculously stupid that moment. Yeah, and if you saw the media
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scrum, MGF did make a little snaff foo a little, but it was
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a big staf foo in the media scrub where he said that he was standing
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in the back watching the swerve Strickland and the hangman had him page match and
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he was like, you know, wow, you know, but he was
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standing in the back so well, in the back of his emergency room,
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be at the back of his emergency room on a big monitor, because you
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know they emergency rooms these days, do you know have. You know,
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they do have pay per views on in the emergency room, because God knows,
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the people with charge of glass stuck in their eyeballs and you know,
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hatchets in their head and broken legs and broken arms and you know, shattered
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shattered knees, they deserve to be entertained when they're in the emergency room for
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the free amount of money it costs. Or yeah, you said you had
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you said you You just said that you had medical problems. So I assume
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that you've been in the emergency room at the hospital emergency rooms, and I
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will say there are TV is in there with working cable, but I don't
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think they have Bleacher Report. They don't have Bleacher Report. Did they show
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in theater movies too? They at University of Washington Medical Center. They do
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have an on demand movie channel, but not in theater. But you know
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what I'm saying, Yeah, let's move on. I think we pretty much
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covered the best of the worst of the night, I think, But I
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want to talk about the Young Bucks for a second here, because the Young
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Bucks lost to Kenny Obega and Chris Jericho. Kenny Obga went to shake hands
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and Young Bucks literally through a tantrum like a couple of three year olds,
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you know, and and that was that, and so you know, I
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don't know. So now they come out with reports and probably k because Brandon
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Cutler, you know, did it? You know, did the report say
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that you know a dog that being the elite is done and they're taking a
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break from AAW which they very may well be taking a break from AAW or
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they're just using this as a vehicle. But Aki, I mean, do
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you have any ideas about this, uh whatever is going on with the Young
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Bucks? They're taking a break from wrestling, but there's no hidden conspiracy.
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Yeah, I agree with you, But do you let me ask you a
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question, Aki. People have been saying that they haven't been getting excited about
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Young Buck Young Bucks matches as much as they used to be. Do you
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think that they were a little maybe a little overexposed or you know, you
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know what I mean. Do you think they needed a break and Ad needed
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a break from the Young Bucks as well, or do you think it's just
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you know, it is what it is. I mean, me personally,
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I'm never I'm never not excited to see the Young Bucks because they're pretty cool.
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But you know, if other people say that then maybe it is a
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good idea to like give people a break from the Young Bucks because last or
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it wasn't last year, I don't know, but like when they got suspended
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and they had a very long time out of the out, like away from
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wrestling, people were very hyped up to see them again. So maybe that's
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just what they need. They just need like a good like a couple months
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break, be with family, do whatever you got to do. Fill out,
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you'll up if you're injured or something, and think of cool story ideas
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and then you know, when you come back, show those cool story ideas
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and then boom, people are excited again. Right, we're air just came
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into the room. We're talking about the Young Bucks said their break that they're
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taking. We're to go to Andre next and there I get your thoughts on
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this right after Andre's done. If that's all right, Andre? What do
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you think I mean? Is what I said and what Aki said? Does
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that ring true with you? Do you have your own opinions about this?
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I'm sure you do. I feel like the Bucks have been taking a break
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from aw for the past six months or so because they were suspended and then
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they signed that big new contract dem and Omega and I guess all of the
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Elite, and then they haven't really done much. I like the Young Bocks
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a lot. I think they're exciting team, but at the same time,
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they're exclusively a tag team, and I feel like they're almost like hit a
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ceiling or something, because how much can you really do with the tag team.
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They've gone for the Trio's belts, they've gone for the Ring of Honor
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Trios belts, they've gone for the regular tag titles, and now it feels
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like they're just spinning the wheels, like fighting with their old friends again,
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and then they're going to make up with them again, then they're going to
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fight with them again. I feel like they need something drastically different, and
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they need some kind of maybe like a blood feud, kind of similar to
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what Hangman and Swerve are having, but with maybe like I want to say,
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Luca Brows, but that's kind of like a tired rivalry too. Maybe
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someone new I don't know, I don't know exactly who would be great opponents
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for them, but they need something different. I don't know if they're actually
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going to be gone for a while. I hope not, because I mean,
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they're exciting. So I want to see them, but I just want
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to see them do something different. What do you think, er, I
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mean, you know, do the Bucks need to recharge? Do you think
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they've lost some of the fans. I think as a whole, the elite
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has taken a back seat in twenty twenty three, like they returned at full
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gear twenty twenty two. They win the Trios or they don't win the Trios
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Championship, but then they have like that best of seven series with that triangle
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amazing wrestling, amazing matches. Crazy to think that six guys can have seven
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different matches and it doesn't get boring or repetitive. And then Hangman kind of
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goes missing for two months until the mock feud kicks off and he happens to
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get injured. Kenny has arguably his slowest year in his pro wrestling career since
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coming to AW besides twenty twenty two, because of like the suspension, and
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the Bucks kind of get lost in the shuffle because, like Andre said,
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they're exclusively a tag team, and the tag division as a whole, I
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think it kind of got disrupted with the Trio with the introduction of the Trios
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division, because it split the two. You had a lot of tag teams
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that got converted into trios and they fell off, like you look at the
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acclaimed Hottest Tag Act and then now they're in the trio's division and it's hurting
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the Tag division because FTR, while they had the belt, they weren't doing
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much with them as a result. So Young Bucks, I feel like whatever
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reason, whatever plans shifted because I guess like everybody expected that once they won
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that tag title shot, they would win at home in Los Angeles and then
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you'd see the Tag division go back to like what it once was, which
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was like the best tag division in the world, Like if there was that,
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like aw really distinguished itself from others early on, was that Tag division,
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Luca Bros. Private Party, Young Books, FTR, you name it
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right. So I think, like I think, as a whole the least
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probably just taking a back seat in twenty twenty three, and then next year
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you see them really kick things off. You see them turning heel they brought
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back like the bar they brought back the Young Bucks, like the dollars,
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so all their little heel anctics, even the storyline wise, you see them
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leaning into like things like brawl out with like mention of like stop being children,
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that oh, that's not the first time I've heard of that, all
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those kind of things. So they're leaning heavily into all of those tropes that
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get talked about them in social media. And that's when the bucks are the
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best. So I think, like, we probably don't see them at World
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end, but then definitely as twenty twenty four kicks off, then I think
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like, that's when like they're really back in the fold. The elite as
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a whole will be back in the fold. You know. I want to
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I want to give an opinion, and I then I want to give everybody
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a chance to express their thoughts on the opinion that I'm gonna give. I've
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always for the longest, not always, but for the longest time. I'd
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say for more than a year, at least more than a year, probably
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closer to two years. I've bet a big proponent of a AW Women's Tag
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Team Championship belt, and whenever I bring it up, we I get the
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response saying AW already has too many belts, And my response to that is,
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yes, I agree they should get rid of the Trios Championship and put
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and give the women a tag team championship because for the same reason that Air
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you know, just expressed, the trios Championship is taken away from the men's
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tag team and tag team is always going to be more important to trios.
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And the trios champions right now are tag team wrestlers, you know, They're
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not a trios team, you know, And where do you go from here?
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The acclaim that we're not even in They were not in Zero Hour,
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they were not in the pay per view Full Gear. Of course they were
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quote unquote injured, you know, but it's probably because they just didn't have
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a place for them. There was nobody, There was nobody in line to
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challenge them. Really. I mean, you can argue maybe House of Black,
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but I think they made the right call putting House of Black in the
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tag teams ladder match, you know kind of thing. So that's my question.
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I want to I want to throw it to Andre do you think that
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we need a women's tag title and and do you think that if we do
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have to give up one, would you give up the the Trios Championship or
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something else. I do think that there should be a women's tag team division
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with a championship. That would be really good because it would give a lot
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of women something to do, and a lot of them are kind of buddies
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and sort of unofficial tag teams, so this would give them something to fight
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over. But I don't think we should take away the Trios championship. I
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don't think I wouldn't take away any championship unless you want to talk about Ring
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of Honor titles. I'll get rid of all of those, and I'll get
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rid of the FTW title that's worthless, and I'll keep the rest. I
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do like the Trio's Division. I do think they acclaimed and Billy Gunn they
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could have defended against the Kingdom at the paper view, I think that would
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have made sense because they were kind of fighting for Max Mjf's attention, so
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that kind of wrote itself. I don't know why they didn't do that,
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but maybe they didn't want either team to lose, So I don't know,
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but yeah, I'm a big supporter of women's Tag team division. What about
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you, HOCKI or sorry, go ahead, I just want I just want
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to piggyback on something you said. Okay, so we keep the Tree's Division.
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People are still saying that we have too many belts at AW. No,
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we don't, because if you took away all the time TV time that
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the roh belts are being used, are defended and fought for or whatever you
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want to call it on AWTV, then you've got plenty of time, plenty
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of time for the the AW Women's World Tag Team title. OKI, what
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are your feelings about women's tag team title? Do you think that it's feasible
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and viable? I've been saying for a long time, or I mean I
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haven't physically say it, but like I've been thinking that the trio belts didn't
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have been introduced yet. I mean eventually they should have, but just not
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at the time that it was introduced because I because like there wasn't a lot
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of trios in my opinion. And yeah, I think they should make a
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uh oh my god, the tag team for the women's and don't go ahead,
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go ahead hockey notes about it. Okay, I want to ask you
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another question to add on to this, give you an opportunity to say something
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new. One of the things that we also get. I told you I
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get a response when I bring up the women's tag team belts that there's too
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many belts. The other response is there's no women's tag teams. Do you
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agree with that? I think they're I think Tony Kin's kind of building a
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tag division. If you look at what's been going on in AW, so
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throw to you, do you think a women's tag team title is viable in
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AW and do you think there are women tag teams out there? Yeah?
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So I had just happened to open up the AW roster and I was looking
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through it and currently there are thirty four women signed and a lot of them
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aren't featured regularly summer in like, uh, you have Jamie Hayter off TV.
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You have thunder Rosa who's injured. Then you have others who are missing
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for different reasons such as uh Ty Melo and the others, Rijo Yokosakazaki,
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Serenadeve, we don't know where she is, Peneloe, Penelope hasn't wrestled.
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Bunny got released recently. So yeah, there's a lot of women who are
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signed, but we all we always see those same seven or eight women who
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are featured on TV. And in terms of tag teams, if you just
26:32
look back I think like H TJ and A J and Tymelo that would be
26:36
one, Madison rain Sky Blue that was kind of one. Uh who else
26:41
do you have a deal? Yeah? You have those, but yeah,
26:48
I don't think there's like natural tag teams like you would see with the men's
26:52
division or or let's let's look through like the other example of the Women's Tag
26:57
Team Championships that do exist, which existing WW they tried to have two sets
27:03
one inn NXT one on the main roster, and for whatever reason, those
27:07
titles just ended up being cursed because whoever held them ended up getting injured or
27:11
something else happened. And they're also struggling running into the same problems where like
27:15
you don't have natural tag teams who are coming up from like the INDI's or
27:21
from the grassroots levels and then migrating up in AW. We're having a lot
27:26
of makeshift tag teams that you're putting together. And to twenty CON's credit,
27:30
even a tag team like the Acclaim they started from darkent Elevation just got randomly
27:33
put together and ended up being something good. So the potential is there for
27:37
a tag team, but like as the current roster stands, I don't think
27:41
there are enough natural tag teams in place for a title, like perhaps you
27:47
start building tag team feuds, you start doing those things, and then maybe
27:51
like twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, you can see like, oh,
27:53
there's enough people and pieces in place that we can do this and give
27:56
it a belt and give it some more legitimacy, you know. Let me
28:02
let me bring up a point here. So when you look at the men's
28:04
tag teams, what's the most popular men's tag team right now? Which one
28:10
is selling the most murk? No, it's MGF and Adam Colebaby. And
28:21
how did that tag team even come about? The blind eliminator tag team tournament?
28:26
Why could it's a makeshift tag team that they got together quickly. I'm
28:32
sure they put thought into it. It wasn't a blind draw, you know,
28:36
so. I think it would be interesting if they did that for the
28:37
women's I said that right when they were doing it for the men. Why
28:41
aren't they doing this for the women? You could pull Sky Blue and Julia
28:45
Hart put them together. You could pull like Chris Statlander and somebody like Tya
28:51
Valkyrie have two towers the Willow Nightingale. Absolutely, there's so many things that
28:59
you can do. We've been looking at like when Jamie Hater comes back.
29:03
We've been everybody was talking about Britt Baker turning on JM. Hater or JB.
29:07
Hater turning on Brick Baker. If you put them on opposite ends of
29:11
a tag team, you know, through a blind draw, that could be
29:17
the catalyst for that happening, you know. So we're talking about the women,
29:23
and I want to just kind of segue into the next little segment here
29:29
at full Gear, we had six championship matches. Two titles changed hands,
29:36
and those two titles were the TBS title in the aw Women's World title,
29:41
the two women's matches. The titles change hands in those matches, but the
29:45
other four matches they didn't change hands. Do you is this a good thing,
29:52
andre or a bad thing? Do you think we should have had?
29:55
Well? Of course, do you think that one of the female women's title
29:59
should have stay put both of them or do you think that maybe one or
30:03
two more of the men's titles. K I'm gonna say this right now,
30:08
and I said it before. Out of all those six tag teams, out
30:11
of those six titles matches, all of them, all of them were kind
30:17
of in questioned a little bit so there was a possibility of losses. So
30:22
what do you think, well, as someone who won the predictions game,
30:29
my humble, My humble opinion is that pretty much every match outcome made sense.
30:37
You know, that's why I predicted, But you know that's besides the
30:38
point. So I'm happy with these title changes, to be honest. The
30:44
Women's World title match, I didn't really care that much for uh, we'll
30:48
see what Tony Storm does with it. There's some interesting potential for her with
30:52
a belt. Somebody suggested I think it might have been air, but please
30:56
correct me if I'm wrong, but somebody suggested that she should get really obsessed
31:00
with it and like sleep with it, take it in the shower, and
31:03
just like guarded with her life because she's crazy. That could be interesting.
31:08
As far as the TBS Championship goes on, I'm happy Julia Hart won and
31:15
that was a great match. I want to say, because we discussed last
31:18
week how all three of these women are not very experienced, so it's going
31:22
to be interesting to see if their three way match is going to be sloppy
31:26
or not. And it was not sloppy at least not that I noticed.
31:29
I thought it was. They did a really good job, and I'm excited
31:33
to see what Julia does. I hope she has a great ring. The
31:36
one thing I hope is that AW does this a lot. It seems like
31:41
they build someone up to win the title, and then once the person wins
31:44
the title, they just have random open challenges while they're building the next challenger,
31:49
and the champion just kind of gets forgotten, like their character arc just
31:52
stops. And I hope that doesn't happen with the women here, right and
31:59
Aki, I know that you are a huge proponent of women's wrestling. Are
32:05
you pleased with the title changes? And also, I'm sure even though you've
32:10
already said you didn't get the Sea full gear, you probably know the results
32:15
and do you see something you know and the results that the titles didn't change
32:19
that you're like, I wish this may have changed. I'm so happy that
32:24
Julia won that champion. I've been saying that since the since TVs Champion,
32:29
since Jade was here. I'm so happy she won that. I'm also excited
32:32
to see what Tony Storm does that. I hope that she does the angle
32:36
where if she where she becomes kind of obsessed with the thing that would be
32:40
pretty cool. I'm so happy that the ladies won, and I kind of
32:47
forgot my prediction. I think I said four or three some of that,
32:52
so I guess both kind of close. What no, you're no, you're
33:00
pretty much everybody said three or four titles change hands. Yeah, I was
33:05
kind of close. But I'm so happy that the lady is that the ladies
33:08
that I wanted to win one because it just made it just made too much
33:13
sense. That's fair enough. I mean, did you think that maybe some
33:16
of the others, you know, the men's titles which none change hands,
33:21
you know, were you a little upset maybe or thinking that one of them
33:24
would have changed hands at least one of them. Are you okay with the
33:28
four titles staying where they were? I'm fine with the World Champion staying where
33:32
it is because I don't like j White and uh I have to look at
33:42
the matches and UH like the list of matches to say, like, who
33:47
else has I forgot a lot of matches? That's that's fair enough. What
33:57
about you, Air, I mean, what is your take on this weet?
33:59
Are you okay with the two women's matches title state changeing hands? Or
34:02
did you think that maybe we could have used one, at least one title
34:06
change in the men's side. So I'll just start at the top first.
34:12
Hikarushida when she won back her title at Dynamite two hundred from Soirea, she
34:19
held that or no, no, she would she be. She beat Tony
34:22
Storm that night. She held the title twenty five days before losing to Sreya.
34:27
Her third title reign was only for thirty nine days, So two times
34:30
now she's been a transitional champion for someone else to give someone else their moment
34:35
because Tony Kahn felt that they were hotter Sreya in England like, oh,
34:38
we got the vice to queen, got to give it to her hometown crowd.
34:42
Let's get that pop because we don't have Jamie Hayter to give that pop
34:45
too this time around. It's it's so clear that Tony Storm is Tony Hahn's
34:52
favorite female wrestler on the roster because of the amount of amount of TV time
34:57
that he's given her. You could tell that. You could see it with
35:00
Britt two years ago. Even though when she was injured in a wheelchair,
35:04
had a broken nose, she was still constantly on TV. She was still
35:07
being wheeled out, she was still cutting promos backstage segments. It was very
35:10
easy to see Tony Kahan's favorites when you see how the TV time is designated
35:15
to these people. Tony Storm, I felt like her story would have been
35:22
better had she lost, because it would allow her character to unravel a little
35:27
bit more, get a little bit crazier, all those sorts of things.
35:31
But now that she's one, let's see where it goes. I'm interested to
35:35
see where the story with Mariah May goes. Who's like kind of like her
35:38
understudy and girl, and eventually I guess we'll see her the student becomes a
35:44
teacher tries to take out this teacher. That's probably the direction that goes.
35:47
So I'm okay with that. The TVs title, Like Aki, like Andre,
35:52
I'm super pleased for Julia hart Urn Skyblue are two of like the women
36:00
who are making the fastest progress in AW They're wrestling a lot more compared to
36:06
a lot of the other women the work is being put in. And then
36:08
Julia, where she distinguishes herself from everybody else on the roster is that her
36:14
character work has gone up so many levels. And I mean the credit to
36:17
that has to go to, like just her being around Malachi Brody Buddy,
36:22
three veterans of the game. Malachi is such a cerebral lore guy, and
36:27
just spending time with them, watching them wrestle, listening to them cut promos.
36:32
Julia has taken that like and I'm just run with it. So I'm
36:36
happy for her as well, But I feel bad for Chris dat Lander,
36:40
who didn't get a single feud really of her whole TBS title reign. So
36:47
I'm just looking now when she had seventeen title matches, and I think she
36:53
gave some of the women that she wrestled against some of the best matches that
36:57
they had. Her matches against Jade Cargo were excellent. Her matches against Willow
37:01
Skyblue, Marina Shafir, Lady Frost, Taya Anna j some of the better
37:08
women's matches that we've seen this year. So she definitely elevated the title,
37:13
not just in ring, but like on a work rate basis, And I
37:16
really hope that she moves up a level now. And isn't that aw Women's
37:21
Championship contendership because she's amazing Hue there and from the men's side, I thought
37:30
we should have seen another title change, any one in particular that you were
37:37
thinking about. I thought Max should have won. You and I are sharing
37:43
the same brain cell again, Yeah yeah, Like I thought in my heart
37:46
of hearts, I wanted j White to win because he's one of my favorite
37:50
wrestlers. But like I knew, with like a Long Island pay per view
37:52
and the MANJFS hometown, there was no chance in hell that he was gonna
37:55
lose. But Mocks, I felt should have won. Nothing against Orange Cassidy,
38:02
but I felt like you built him up for a year as this undefeated
38:07
guy forty title defenses whatever he had, and it took John Moxley to beat
38:10
him. Who's gonna be the next guy to beat him? It kind of
38:14
like devalues that next victory. Well, they did kind of back themselves into
38:19
the aw did back themselves into a corner, because you're exactly right, who
38:22
are they gonna get to beat John to get to beat Orange Cassidy. Now
38:27
I can tell you who it's gonna be. It's gonna be John Moxley at
38:31
Winter is Coming. It's gonna be a tiebreaker match because they're one on one
38:37
and they're gonna have a tiebreaker. And that's gonna be John Moxley's way of
38:39
winning the belt. Yeah, that's probably the direction that goes, yeah,
38:44
because otherwise you look at the guys that Orange Cassidy beat, like look a
38:47
look at look at where Serve is now. And Swerve has taken two losses
38:51
to Orange Cassidy. Oh I didn't. I forgot about that. Yeah too,
38:58
And this is like a when was that Battle Royale? And then a
39:01
match on Dynamite And so those are like two big wins that Orange Cassidy has
39:06
for a guy who's like the biggest black wrestler wrestling today. He's elevated himself
39:15
to like that upper a a st or echelon of wrestlers now in the span
39:21
of like two three months. But Orange Cassidy has a couple of wins over
39:23
him. So like so yeah, it'll be interesting to see who takes it
39:29
off him, Like you have guys like I really want to see, like
39:30
an international guy be the one to take take off take the title off him,
39:36
a rouge a Taqueshta, somebody like that. I agree. One title
39:42
change that I forgot to mention that I would like to see was I wanted
39:45
the guns to take the belts off of MJF because I feel like those belts
39:51
just need to be off of MJF. The Ring of Honored tag team belts
39:52
that I'm talking about because like, okay, I was thinking about this today.
39:57
So Samoa Joe, he was the Ring of Honor TV champion and he
40:00
gave that belt up. He just straight up put it on the floor said
40:04
I don't want it anymore. I want to do bigger and better things.
40:08
Bigger and better things is what MJF has, which is the World Championship,
40:13
but he also has the Ring of Honor championships that he is defending with his
40:17
life. Like the Ring of Honor belts are like the most important tag belts
40:21
in the history of the industry. He is sacrificing his world title defense by
40:28
defending these Ring of Honor belts, And both of these guys are like in
40:31
the same storyline, and it's just so inconsistent, and it just it's kind
40:35
of laughable when I dig deep about it, you know, And I just
40:38
want MJF to get rid of those Ring of Honor belts and just let's just
40:42
stick with the world title. I get you. I mean, as I
40:46
said earlier, I am a big proponent of AW having AW belts fought for,
40:52
defended, and battled for on AWTV Ring of Honor. People are saying
41:00
Ring of Honor is dying. Why is the Ring of Honor dying? Samoa
41:02
Joe didn't defend the Ring of Honor TV championship on Ring of Honor TV since
41:08
like August, It's been months. You know, if you're going to have
41:15
a promotion with belts, but have those belts defended on on that you know?
41:27
So yeah? So, uh you know what, Air do you want
41:31
to do your rant about Saboa Joe? You can do it if you want
41:35
to take the time. Air is going to kill you. Yeah. So
41:42
when he dropped the title the way that he did it, I like,
41:46
what about it? And then once the time of my finished, I just
41:50
like, yeah, I couldn't process it. I couldn't process it at all.
41:52
Uh but like yeah, I'll just I'll just read off my rent one.
41:58
Samoa Joe held the title five hundred and seventy five days and didn't put
42:01
a single person over in defeat. Uh. Second, he says he wanted
42:07
to be more than a TV champion, But what rule says you can't be
42:09
a TV champion or a double champ, especially when you've already been a double
42:14
champ. So we remember the king of Television, Samoa Joe with the ROH
42:17
and TNT championship. What would affect him from being rh TV champion and the
42:22
AW World Champion. He could have put over Keithley and losing could have could
42:30
have made him a star, could have made him the singles wrestler that we
42:32
all thought that we were getting when he signed to AW. You could have
42:37
easily had Samojo losing in a multiman match. Final battle is coming up in
42:42
three weeks time, four weeks time, whatever it is, right, hung
42:45
Bucks don't have the belt, Samoa Joe lost the belt, You've already devalued
42:50
your pay per view. Why the ticket sales are in the absolute gutter for
42:53
that show? No chance in hell do I think I'm seeing mgf so on
43:00
an ROH pay per view? No, I don't see him defending those belts
43:02
either. So you already have three title belts that won't be there because you're
43:07
held by people that are predominantly on AW television. And yeah, because you
43:15
didn't do any of those things above. Whoever holds the title belt next will
43:20
be holding a belt that the previous champ didn't feel was worth holding. Yeah,
43:24
and so whether it's Ethan Page, whether it's Mark Brisco, whether it's
43:29
whoever, you're holding a title that the previous champ told you is not as
43:34
important as other belts, and so it just devalues the whole thing. Well,
43:38
you know, here, one of the things that I've constantly said on
43:42
these podcasts is that I am not a proponent. I am not a fan
43:46
of any wrestler holding two belts. With the amount of wrestlers in the on
43:51
the roster, it just aw alone, not even taken into consideration the rig
43:55
of honor specific roster, there's no reason whatsoever for more than one bell to
44:01
be held by any single wrestler. Which brings us to our next point,
44:07
the new Continental Championship. Now, Eddie Kingston full gear cut a really confusing
44:14
promo. Take that promo, wrap it up into a ball and throw it
44:17
out the window. Because during this scrum, the media scrum afterward, the
44:22
Boss, Tony Kann himself explained the Continental Championship. And if you try to
44:28
think what Eddie Kingston said and Tony Kahn said together, you're just gonna get
44:32
confused. So the way I understand the Continental Championship, and again don't even
44:39
think about what Eddie Kingston said, because it doesn't it has no pertinence.
44:45
The Continental Championship is basically the Ring of Honor World Championship, the Continental Championship
44:52
in the duo Japan Pro Wrestling Strong open Weight Championship all rolled into one.
44:57
It's a unified championship to whoever wins this twelve man tournament, which is being
45:02
announced in full from what I understand tomorrow probably I think it's on a YouTube
45:10
thing tomorrow, like at at one o'clock. I don't even know, but
45:14
it is going to be announced tomorrow. The bracket, the winner at this
45:17
tournament will be, for lack of better words, the Ring of Honor World
45:24
champion and the New Japan for a Wrestling Open Strong open Weight Championship champion,
45:32
and it'll be under the Continental Championship belt. And that's what it means.
45:39
So with the Continental Championship again, this is one that's going to be defended
45:45
a Ring of Honor aw and in New Japan. Keeping that in consideration,
45:53
who do you think should win this final? You know you don't even have
45:58
to narrow down the one you can narrow up down to two or three,
46:00
even Andre putting you on the spot here. Yes, you're asking the question
46:07
who should win this? My question is who is Brian Danielson going to beat
46:13
in the finals for this or or who is going to upset Brian Danielson in
46:19
the finals, because I think that's the only thing that matters, because we've
46:22
kind of seen this before with these tournaments where a certain wrestler is kind of
46:27
like the centerpiece of it and you kind of know they're going to go in
46:30
the finals. We saw that, we see him punk in the recent tournament
46:34
in which Ricky Starks went over in the owen Hart Tournament. So I feel
46:37
like this is leading up to something similar, and it's hard to tell because
46:43
no matter what I say right now, it's gonna probably be outdated tomorrow when
46:46
we find out the actual participants. But I would like to see, first
46:52
of all, from storyline perspective. If I'm Don Kallis, I want my
46:55
guys in this tournament. This is a brand new tournament. We got to
46:59
put our name on it. I have the hottest guy right here, Takeshta.
47:02
He needs to be in it. He needs to win it. He
47:05
needs to be synonymous with the championship. That's what makes sense, So I
47:10
hope that's what happens. I want Don Kallas to put not only Takeshta,
47:15
but I want him to put Maybe it would be too much to put all
47:19
three of his guys with Kyle Fletcher and Powerhouse Hobbs, but I want him
47:22
to put at least Takeshta in and maybe Powerhouse Hobbs for you know, a
47:28
big guy in the tournament. But I want Takeshta to go at least to
47:31
the finals, to lose to Danielson or even win it. I think that
47:37
would be cool. What do you think, Oki? That's basically my reaction
47:45
to hearing that. So it's a champion that's for a Ring of Honor that's
47:50
all three which one belt. The person who holds the belt is going to
47:54
be the Ring of Honor Championship, the Continental aw Continental Champion, and the
48:00
new Japan Strong Open Weight Championship all at the same time. It's like the
48:05
universal championship belt that the company that I don't like saying's name has has yes,
48:10
So it's like holding three different championships, but it's one championship. Okay,
48:17
I think it's gonna be uh well aspray that wins it because he just
48:23
signed, or maybe that wins it, but like he'll go on to the
48:28
he'll he'll definitely be probably in the running for it down the line. But
48:30
keep in mind that he just signed, but he's not going to be coming
48:34
in for a couple of months. Yeah, and uh so here he is.
48:39
He did say, you know, give me a chance. I'm gonna
48:42
I'm gonna complete my my commitment to New Japan and I'll be here as soon
48:46
as that's done. Now that's not to say he may go in there,
48:51
and I do have a point to make about that too, but for all
48:54
ten purposes, he's he's AW signed with AW, but he's not really with
49:00
AW yet. Yeah, in a couple more months. Yeah, okay,
49:05
never mind, my plans have been foiled. No, you may not have
49:09
been, because I'm gonna throw it to air now. But I have a
49:12
question for air. This is this championship belt does represent New Japan Pro Wrestling
49:21
as well, and to Aki's point, will Osprey is still in New Japan
49:24
Pro Wrestling. Do you think that New Japan Pro Wrestling will Osprey could win
49:30
this thing. He could be in this tournament because who better to represent the
49:36
tournament than the you know, the championship belt than Will Osprey for New Japan,
49:43
a New Japan wrestler, Kurt New Japan wrestler. What do you think?
49:45
Who? What is your answer on this air? I think well Ostrey
49:51
would have been a first great candidate, but I don't think he will be
49:52
in the tournament. But whoever does win, they have to be a made
49:59
guy. Like if Brian Danielson, I don't think he wants to hold any
50:02
kind of accolade in aw He's happy just wrestling great matches. He books himself
50:07
to lose, So like a guy like Takeushta, somebody who can get elevated,
50:15
Like if you saw yesterday the list of wrestlers that I put out.
50:16
In terms of who I think should be in the tournament, it should be
50:20
your upper echelon of guys, your tippy top. In Brian Danielson's own words,
50:27
he looked us dead in the eyeball and said this will be the greatest
50:30
tournament in professional wrestling history. And you can't say that and then have guys
50:37
in the tournament like like Jay Lethal, like like Jeff Jarrett, like Matt
50:42
Hardy, like Jeff Hardy, like like people we've seen in eliminator eliminator tournaments
50:46
or the owen Hart Tournament. It needs to be the upper echelon of guys.
50:51
It needs to be your Keny Omega's, You're Jay white'es, your your
50:54
Rouchees, your takeshta is, your Malachi's, people of that caliber who have
50:59
held championship singles titles at the highest level. That's how you put over this
51:05
tournament as a great accolade. In terms of the partnership, and like the
51:08
Triple Crown situation, I don't understand why New Japan would agree to this as
51:15
a whole. I've never felt like New Japan has benefited or any of aw's
51:21
partners have benefited from the partnership as much as adw has. I saw an
51:27
interesting point today online. They're they're making these New Japan is like kind of
51:32
building these stars who are obviously going to be worth more money, and New
51:37
Japan doesn't want to pay them the top dollars, so they go to a
51:40
company like AW, where AW pays them a lot but also allows them to
51:45
come back to New Japan to perform on their big Show. So that's the
51:49
theory that I saw. I don't know if that's actually the case. It
51:52
will be interesting to see whether or not when these brackets are revealed tomorrow,
51:57
how many New Japan wrestlers in the bracket itself. And I think New Japan
52:02
can benefit from this because if a New Japan signed wrestler wins the tournament,
52:08
or wins the tournament, or you know, a couple of months from now,
52:12
actually wins the belt, they can bring it back to Japan and work
52:16
with it. The AW Continental title will be in Japan and then they can
52:21
wrestle for defended in Japan. They can come back and defend it in a
52:24
ring of honor, they can defend it at AW. You know. I
52:29
think it's a good time sharing thing. But to Air's point, they have
52:34
to get somebody from a New Japan does have to get the title in order
52:37
to do this, and that's the only way it'll be beneficial for New Japan.
52:42
Yeah, and Under's point, like, so far, even in terms
52:45
of like signings, it's been Aw's benefit. They've gotten Ossie Open, they've
52:51
got in j White, They've got in now will Ospray, They've got into
52:57
Kesha from DDT. So even in just in terms of signing, like sure,
53:00
money matters, all these kind of things, but the relationship it's been
53:06
very one sided. It would be great for a new Japan guy to win
53:09
or for someone to hold the title. But even if you just look at
53:13
like the two Forbidden Door shows, how many new Japan guys have gotten and
53:16
put over in big matches or in the title matches, no one really even
53:21
in terms of the opponents that we have them in the matches that they do
53:24
go over, like this year we had Sanata beat Jungle Boy. Jungle Boy
53:28
was never gonna win that match. Well, we had Jay White go over
53:32
and then we had will Osprey go over. But now they're over here.
53:36
So but at the time they were part of the Japan Yeah, yeah,
53:42
fair point, you know. So we we talked. We talked a little
53:45
bit about will Osprey. We talked about Jay why do you still fairly new
53:49
signing in AWE after getting absolutely booked into the dirt like he like if six
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feet is buried, he's he's at five feet right now underground? Yeah,
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who's that? JH. Yeah, I don't know. Well, if you
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look at it this way though, you know, a W has released more
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wrestlers lately than they've ever had in the penmast I want to make a collection.
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They didn't release the guys the contracts expired. I just want to clarify
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that because there's a big difference and people will get upset. I think they
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did release lave Bates though I think she requested her release. Yeah, and
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Jane Cargill I think requested her release as well. But anyway, we just
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AW just signed Will Osprey. They had Ronda Rousey Wressell for Ring of Honor
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on Friday night. We had Dolph Ziggler at it backstage at Full Gear.
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We had Mercelle these Bonett shown in the crowd at all In, And there
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are other names that are you know, pasta round, Mustaf al Lee,
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Julia from New Japan, Spicy Prediction Time, Who's next, Who's next?
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Who's coming in? And who? Yeah, who's next? Do you?
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I say you got that right? Seriously, though, where are we going
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here? I mean, if we're going to I mean, obviously wrestling is
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a very dynamic thing. We're going to. AW is going to sign some
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other people. Are any of these people that I mentioned or maybe somebody that
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I didn't mention are day next on the block to be signed by AW?
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Who is it? Who would you like to see? More importantly, maybe
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who would you not like to see signed by aw Andre I would like to
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see the obvious Mercedes Monette. I apologize my cat is interfering. I would
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like to see Mercedes Mona. I would like to see the King Goo become
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official. H this one is gonna be very unpopular actually, these two,
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and you know this is gonna be controversial, but this is spicy, right.
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I would like to see Elias given a chance in a w because I
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really like his character work. I've never seen a single match from him,
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so I don't know if he can wrestle, but I really enjoyed his character
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work. And the same exact thing thing can be said about Enzo Amori or
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whatever his name is these days. Yeah, I think we're definitely gonna get
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Dolf Ziggler. And uh so you basically mentioned everybody that's alive, just just
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just five, Well you did. You didn't mention who's next though? That
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was gonna be my fifth person. I I'm gonna get crap for this,
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but I want to see what they can do with Goldberg. I don't know
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if that's going to be possible because I've heard backstage he thinks really highly of
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himself, unlike Sting, who's really humble. Uh but you know, I
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don't know, give me a chance of I'm gold break right, OCKI Who
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do you think is up next on the block for a W to sign?
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And who would you like it to be? And who do you definitely want
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a W to stay away from? So for one for dudes and one for
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ladies. For the dudes, I kind of want to Dozuki because he's pretty
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cool. And for Grandpa yeah, okay, okay, And for the ladies,
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I kind of want to see Ronda Rousey. I don't know why,
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because you know, apparently not many people like her, but you know,
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it would a conversation. She definitely would be a point of conversation. I
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don't have a problem with her. I don't really either. Air Let's go
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to you. What do you what is your answer? I'd like to see
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Mustafa Ali Okay, like he's probably the best in ring guy of the recently
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released batch of wrestlers and free agents that are available. He was always one
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of those guys that never got to fully express himself and wrestle how he wanted
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to in the previous company that he was on, and he fits like that
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niche demographic. He's South Asian, speaks good English, so he's able to
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tap into a different demographic that others in AW currently cannot. So him from
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the men's side, from would be Matt Riddle. Recently, with the signings
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of like Rick Flair and others, aw has kind of like or Tony Han
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at least has been a bit of a hypocrite in terms of his uh,
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his logic, his his tweets, his uh shot said w W in terms
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of like Vince mc mann's s A allegations and the people that he's gone on
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to sign. But matt Ril is definitely when I stay away from great in
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ring, great character, but yeah, it comes with a lot of baggage.
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Yeah, yeah, allegedly a lot of baggage. And from the women's
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side, I've seen Ronda Rowsey wrestle against Athena and Billy Starks at that at
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that indie show PW Revolver, and I was like, where was this Roonda
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Rowsi for the last two years of her career. She's not half bad,
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really, Okay, that's interesting, Like she intrigues me and I'd like to
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see I guess like the and she wrestled on R O H against Athena and
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Billy Strucks as well. So I wonder if that match airs this Thursday or
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if it's like it was just for like the the crowd that was there.
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But if it is, they are going to air it. Tony Connes said,
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okay, okay, good and then so then it will be interesting to
1:00:04
see, like how is she doesn't that element because if she's good in rings,
1:00:08
she's arguably like the biggest name in combat sports as so far as women
1:00:14
go. So she's someone who's like who's a draw? Right? Is that?
1:00:20
Would you if they announced that the next Honor Club telecast? I don't
1:00:27
know if they're doing one on Thursday because it's Thanksgiving. It would be kind
1:00:30
of stupid for them to do one on Thanksgiving, right, Not a lot
1:00:32
of people would be watching. But they'd say that a week from now.
1:00:36
Uh, they said, Ronda Rousey is going to her match is going to
1:00:40
be on the Honor Club. Would you be you're not subscribed to? Would
1:00:46
you be more willing to subscribe? Oh? No, that's all gonna chee
1:00:52
my mind. No, okay, fair enough, that's going to get me
1:00:54
to pay ten dollars, twelve dollars whatever it does these days, right,
1:01:00
probably get a free trial. Well, you know, I guess it's my
1:01:07
turn. Aw signed will Osprey. And one of the things that is cool
1:01:14
about the will Osprey signing is that it was widely publicized, whether it's true
1:01:19
or not, that it was publicized that WWE wanted will Osprey and Aw Gottam,
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which is a coup or will Osprey and also considering to will Osprey is
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one of, if not the best professional wrestlers in the world. Tony Kahn
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did not say that, you know, Chicile, He was telling the truth.
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It's plain and simple. He is. He's good on the mic,
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he's fantastic in the ring, and that is something that's good. So who
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should they sign next? You know, the men's side is a little bit
1:02:00
convoluted, you know, because there's really not that quote unquote superstar. I
1:02:05
agree with what Air said about Mustaf al Alie. An argument be made being
1:02:12
that he's Ryan Nema's brother, that doll Ziggler would be a great signing.
1:02:16
You know, Goldberg coming in and doing you know, a part of his
1:02:22
retirement tour or his entire retirement tour with AW would be probably beneficial. I
1:02:28
think people would tune in to see Goldberg on there. So I really can't
1:02:32
come up with definitely no Matt Riddle, no, allegedly. But on the
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women's side, there's two women. There's obviously the Mercedes Monet, who AW
1:02:49
would be foolish if it was possible not to grab. The other woman that
1:02:52
they have is Julia, who is in my estimation a far better wrestler than
1:02:59
Mercedes Monett. She's a little bit younger, not by much, but a
1:03:02
little bit younger. Uh, And guess what WWE wants her. If AW
1:03:09
could swoop in and get Julia and get her out from under, I think
1:03:15
Julia's contract is up in March, if I'm not mistaken with stardom, if
1:03:19
AW could swoop in and get Julia and get will Osprey from w keep will
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Osprey away from WWE and Julia from WWE. Perfect And I watched several Julia
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matches today as a matter of fact, and she's too damn good for AW.
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To be honest with you, she's too dad good for any American.
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I really do believe her. Believe that. But the only drawback with Julia
1:03:47
is that she is, you know, she's English born, She's Japanese and
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Italian. She doesn't speak hardly any English. Even though she looks like she
1:03:58
could, she can't. So there's that communication barrier, which I really wouldn't
1:04:02
want to see something like Julia be booked like Ebbie Saker or her Karlshidi,
1:04:06
even Rijo even you know something like that. Julia doesn't speak English. He
1:04:12
said, no, well, she's definitely gonna struggle in WWE. Then,
1:04:17
yeah, so, because I think they've done justice to their Japanese and stardom
1:04:27
wrestlers Oscar Kyrie Deo is your champion currently they don't speak English that much.
1:04:34
I guess you're right. Yeah, women, Yeah, but you know what
1:04:39
Kyrie and Eo have in common. They all got their asses kicked by Julia.
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You know, I mean, Julia is just if you've not if the
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listeners listening today are not familiar with Julia, just go watch a Julia match.
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I explained this to one of our pillars of the community earlier today.
1:04:58
We were talking about Julia. Julia wrestles like she's the size of Jade Cargill.
1:05:03
And she's pretty much the size of she's smaller than she's about the size
1:05:10
of I don't know a I can tell you all size red velvet. She's
1:05:16
the size of red velvet. Red velvet is tiny. Well, Julia is
1:05:20
I believe five five five four or five five. But what she's in the
1:05:25
ring, she looks like she's six to one. She's just so much.
1:05:29
She just her statures is. She's five four pounds and she looks and she
1:05:34
looks like an amazon when she's in the ring. It's from London, but
1:05:39
doesn't speak English. She's was born in London, but she's of Italian and
1:05:44
Japanese descent. Interesting, and so she's she speaks Japanese and I've heard her
1:05:50
roll from r so I'm assuming she speaks Italian too, But she does not
1:05:55
speak English. I mean she can talk, you know, she can say,
1:05:58
you know, hello, how are you the thing? You know?
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My name is Julia, you know, But she's not you know, she
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well, she's nowhere near as a fluid as a Carlshida. I mean not
1:06:12
even close to to as a fluid that we met a car cut any promos
1:06:16
in a w Yeah, I don't understand it because I mean, if you
1:06:19
ever watched her on YouTube, but Karlshida does English speaking YouTube videos where she's
1:06:25
speaking English for like an hour and she's totally fine. You can understand every
1:06:30
single word she says. Yeah, Luca bros. Are not bad on English
1:06:34
either. It's just I don't know why they don't set Jose the assistant coming
1:06:44
out with every Mexican wrestler. He takes away attention from them. Phoenix and
1:06:50
Penta, whenever they spoke in English on TV, They've done fine English.
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I don't need especially Phoenix, well Peta, for you know, Peta doesn't
1:07:03
speak as much English as as Ray Phoenix does. That's clear. But I've
1:07:09
always felt that the emotion you can communicate through your own voice, even if
1:07:14
it's broken English language is it's it's a feeling type thing. You don't need
1:07:16
to understand every word of guys saying, but when you get the emotion across,
1:07:20
Like when Takesha is speaking in Japanese, I don't understand a word he's
1:07:24
saying, but I feel it. I get the emotion it hits right now.
1:07:29
It's a very very very good point. Even the crow. I mean,
1:07:32
when you listen to the crowd reaction. You know that a crowd in
1:07:35
you know, scuttle, but Indiana is not knowing fluent in Japanese. But
1:07:40
if Takeshta is out in that crowd, in front of that crowd talking to
1:07:45
Japanese, they get the gist of what he's saying. You're absolutely right,
1:07:51
think you meant Alex abrahand Is and I like Alex. My apologies to Hosey
1:07:58
the assistant, who's excellent. He's the second best manager in ab behind Prince
1:08:01
Nanna. My apologies to jose Oh God. Anyway, and on that note,
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I think it's time to end the show. We'll see you again tomorrow
1:08:14
night for all the talk at ten point fifteen pm right after Dynamite, join
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us on Reddit for our live chat and Air. Are we going to be
1:08:27
doing a live chat tomorrow night on YouTube or is that being put off?
1:08:32
We'll do our first aw Dynamite. Watch along for andre Aki and Air.
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This is Kelson and you've been listening to Ignition. Good night everybody. We're
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