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The Late Debate | 26 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: General, welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 1: Well thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Freie Leitch and filling in for
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Bond Dnika de Giorgio.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 3: The Mayor of Chicago says jailing violent offenders is racist
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  Speaker 3: and immoral. No wonder Trump's threatening to send in the
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  Speaker 3: National Guard. Plus Snoop Dogg is slammed for daring to
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  Speaker 3: admit he found it hard to explain to his grandkids
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  Speaker 3: how two women can have a baby. And an Australian
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  Speaker 3: couple hit with twenty finable offenses after taking culturally inappropriate
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  Speaker 3: photos of Airs Rock.
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  Speaker 1: But we have to start.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight's show in Liverpool Sydney. I'll tell you why. We've
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  Speaker 3: covered some bizarre council bungles on the Late Debate, but
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  Speaker 3: this one, this one isn't just a cherry on top,
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  Speaker 3: It's the whole misguided cake. Feast your eyes on this.
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  Speaker 3: It's a diamond shaped roundabout. Yes, really plump down at
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  Speaker 3: a major section in southwest Sydney. It cost Liverpool taxpayers
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  Speaker 3: are called ninety three thousand dollars to install, money well spent.
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  Speaker 1: If the goal was traffic chaos.
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  Speaker 3: Drivers were so baffled some started doing three point turns in.
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  Speaker 1: The middle of the roundabout.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing says efficient traffic flow like people reversing into oncoming traffic. Now,
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  Speaker 3: diamonds are meant to be forever, right, Well, this diamond
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  Speaker 3: roundabout gone in seven days, which, let's face it was
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  Speaker 3: six days longer than it should have taken for the
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  Speaker 3: council to realize their error. It was replaced by a
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  Speaker 3: humble give way sign and that fixed only cost another
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  Speaker 3: fifty three grand, which is pocket change if you're not
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  Speaker 3: the one paying rates. A Liverpool Council spokesperson told journalists
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  Speaker 3: have a listen to this. The lessons learned are already
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  Speaker 3: shaping improvements to how council shapes in the liver's future
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  Speaker 3: traffic projects. Translation, we still have no idea what we're doing,
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  Speaker 3: but we're doing it more thoughtfully. Now, Frey, this is
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  Speaker 3: one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen
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  Speaker 3: in my life.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's so ridiculous and it's so embarrassing. This video
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  Speaker 4: of the world's weirdest roundabout when absolutely viral on social
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  Speaker 4: media and no offense to whoever designed this at Liverpool
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  Speaker 4: Council but you have officially made Liverpool the laughing stock
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  Speaker 4: of the world. It's absurd. Who thinks to put in
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  Speaker 4: a diamond roundabout? And the worst part of all of
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  Speaker 4: this is Transport for New South Wales was consulted on
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  Speaker 4: the designs and approved them. So it's not just Liverpool
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  Speaker 4: Council we should be dissing. It's Transport for New South
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  Speaker 4: Wales as well.
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  Speaker 5: It is crazy, It is absolutely crazy. The problem is
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  Speaker 5: it was actually never tested, right, This is the problem.
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  Speaker 5: Normally when you have this sort of infrastructure, they test
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  Speaker 5: it to make sure that it's road worthy, that people
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  Speaker 5: understand it. They never tested it. They just rolled it
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  Speaker 5: out to the public on June twenty And my question
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  Speaker 5: would be how many bureaucrats sat around the council going,
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  Speaker 5: do you know what, let's think of a really smart
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  Speaker 5: idea to eat traffic flow in the middle of Liverpool
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  Speaker 5: a diamond shaped roundabout? Which came up with that? This
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  Speaker 5: is why I hate counsels. They just need to stick
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  Speaker 5: to the real basics instead of designing all these utterly
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  Speaker 5: obscure concepts that nobody knows what to do. Every time
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  Speaker 5: I see that vision, I actually laughed my head off
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  Speaker 5: because you could say, people they almost crash into each other.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no you wouldn't because you.
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  Speaker 5: Don't know whether you need to Where do you egg, like,
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  Speaker 5: where do you exit?
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  Speaker 2: Where do you round?
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  Speaker 3: Imagine the poor kid who's going for his driving test
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  Speaker 3: on that day and he failed.
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  Speaker 5: He's failed already, He's absolutely failed, the poor kid. It's
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  Speaker 5: not your fault, son, it is the fault of the
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  Speaker 5: Liverpool Counsel.
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  Speaker 3: So by the time they painted over it and replaced
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  Speaker 3: the Diamond roundabout with a couple of give way signs,
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  Speaker 3: it ended up costing rate payers almost one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars for some giveway signs. But the part
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  Speaker 3: I love most about this story is that this Diamond
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  Speaker 3: Roundabout fiasco comes amid an investigation at the Liverpool Council
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  Speaker 3: into alleged dysfunction and mismanagement. Well, I think that investigation
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  Speaker 3: can finish now, just show them the roundabout.
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  Speaker 1: The case closed.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they definitely need to add this roundabout to the
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  Speaker 4: terms of the investigation. It's being undertaken by the Office
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  Speaker 4: of Local Government because whoever designed this needs to be
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  Speaker 4: sacked asav It is absolutely shocking. But something else that
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  Speaker 4: could have been a very costly mistake is what happened
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  Speaker 4: to some tourists at Ularu. They were vlogging their trip
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  Speaker 4: for YouTube, taking a lot of photos, posting them all
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  Speaker 4: over social media. Then three months later they got an
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  Speaker 4: email saying they had committed twenty finable offenses by taking
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  Speaker 4: photos and videos of Ularu. Here's what they posted to
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  Speaker 4: social media.
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  Speaker 5: So three months ago, when we're in Ularu, we did
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  Speaker 5: a YouTube video, We put a couple of posts up,
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  Speaker 5: and we weren't aware that there was actually like a
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  Speaker 5: media guideline that you had to abide by.
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  Speaker 6: You you have to apply for a permit to post anything.
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  Speaker 1: About Ulary Fine. We weren't aware about that.
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  Speaker 2: They emailed us, so we spent about permit.
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  Speaker 1: We've got an email back today.
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  Speaker 7: What's apped three months after we went to.
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  Speaker 5: Mt Yeah, three months low at all, and there's like
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  Speaker 5: twenty lines of finable offenses.
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  Speaker 4: So apparently there's actually a twenty eight page media policy
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  Speaker 4: for Ularu. If you want to do any commercial photography,
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  Speaker 4: that's a pass you have to buy. If you want
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  Speaker 4: to do any filming, which they were doing for their
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  Speaker 4: YouTube channel, that's an extra two hundred and fifty dollars
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  Speaker 4: a day to film. But it wasn't just that they
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  Speaker 4: were taking photos and filming. Apparently, even them moving a
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  Speaker 4: branch on the side of the road to swat away
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  Speaker 4: flies was considered culturally insensitive and potentially a finable offense.
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  Speaker 4: There are other things in there, like if you're taking
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  Speaker 4: a photo of the northwest side of Ularu, you have
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  Speaker 4: to use the wide angle lens so you don't zoom
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  Speaker 4: in on any culturally significant sides. I mean, are they
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  Speaker 4: trying to run this as a tourist business or what
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  Speaker 4: is the goal here, because you're not really making this
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  Speaker 4: an attractive destination for people to visit.
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  Speaker 3: When you say cultural sensitivity, what I hear is chi ching,
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  Speaker 3: chi ching, chi ching, Because that's what this is really
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  Speaker 3: all about. Now, if you just go there as a tourist,
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  Speaker 3: and I always I've never been to Ularu is rock.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to.
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  Speaker 3: Never got the chance to climate because they banned it
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  Speaker 3: before I could ever get there, And I just got.
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  Speaker 1: To wonder why you would go there. Now you kept
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  Speaker 1: at a distance.
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  Speaker 3: You're told you you can't take photographs of numerous sites.
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  Speaker 3: That's just as an ordinary person, let alone if you're
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  Speaker 3: a commercial photographer and explaining the decision. A spokesperson for
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  Speaker 3: the local indigenous organization said that areas which were culturally
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  Speaker 3: sensitive were equivalent to sacred scripture, which means that there
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  Speaker 3: are certain areas that for religious reasons you are not
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  Speaker 3: allowed to photograph. We're all the lefties who are always
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  Speaker 3: going about.
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  Speaker 1: Separation of church and state.
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  Speaker 3: Are they were a secular society and yet we've got
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  Speaker 3: indigenous spirituality determining what you can and can't do when
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  Speaker 3: you go to visit a rock in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the country.
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  Speaker 5: Well, when I first heard this story, immediately I started
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  Speaker 5: thinking of that Aba song, money, money, money, because to.
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  Speaker 2: Me, that's all that this is.
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  Speaker 5: This is no more to me than a money making activity.
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  Speaker 5: Now it's interesting because visitor numbers, tourist numbers to u
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  Speaker 5: Laru have failed to reach levels higher than pre pandemic,
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  Speaker 5: so they're actually struggling to get tourists to Ularu right now,
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  Speaker 5: Why would you want to go to Ularu when you
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  Speaker 5: hear this, When you take one two photos and suddenly, surprise,
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  Speaker 5: you get a fight in the mail, or you pick
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  Speaker 5: up a branch swat away flies and suddenly you find
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  Speaker 5: you wouldn't bother This does not make it a tourist destination,
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  Speaker 5: and in fact, I think it should be a very
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  Speaker 5: good tourist destination because it's meant to be one of
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  Speaker 5: the Australian icons. But what I find ironic about this
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  Speaker 5: You've got these Aboriginal corporations. They're saying, no, you need
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  Speaker 5: to come, and you need to respect our our land,
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  Speaker 5: you need to respect Ularu. Yet they're not actually showing
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  Speaker 5: any respect themselves for the tourists who are coming there
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  Speaker 5: to pay their own respects to what is a natural
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  Speaker 5: and beautiful icon.
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  Speaker 2: And that is just the point.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking about nature here, we're talking about sticks, we're
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  Speaker 5: talking about a rock formation, we are talking about nature.
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  Speaker 2: Money. Where does money come into a prayer?
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  Speaker 4: And the other funny thing is that tourist destinations around
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  Speaker 4: the world will pay influences to go there to make
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  Speaker 4: YouTube videos showing off these destinations to try and get
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  Speaker 4: more people to come. I mean places like Saudi Arabia
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  Speaker 4: that are trying to invent whole tourism industries. They're being
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  Speaker 4: big money to influencers to come in film places. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 4: here in Australia, we are finding people for showing off
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  Speaker 4: some of our best national treasures.
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  Speaker 7: What is the logic it is.
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  Speaker 3: Rock resort where you can go and stay when you
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  Speaker 3: visit Ularu. On their website they offer advice to people
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  Speaker 3: who are going there and they talk about if you're
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  Speaker 3: going to do commercial photography, you'll need to purchase a permit.
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  Speaker 3: And on their website they explain, while this may seem restrictive,
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  Speaker 3: do you think these measures are put in place to
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  Speaker 3: a protect the fragile natural environment.
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  Speaker 1: I presume the money is used to.
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  Speaker 3: Update local landscaping things and so on, and to respect
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  Speaker 3: the cultural values of the local indigenous people. How does
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  Speaker 3: purchasing a permit to take a photograph respect the natural
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  Speaker 3: or the cultural values and our cultural values for sale.
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  Speaker 3: That's what is implied exactly. We have our cultural values,
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  Speaker 3: but they can be bought.
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  Speaker 5: But the thing is as well there it should be
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  Speaker 5: no group in Australia that should be given these sorts
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  Speaker 5: of exclusive rights above every other person. Because in the end,
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  Speaker 5: I mean it goes back to what we talk about
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  Speaker 5: a lot. We are all Australians, We are all one.
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  Speaker 5: There is not one group in society. And don't forget
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  Speaker 5: we tried to put an end to this sort of
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  Speaker 5: division by the color of our skin when we all voted,
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  Speaker 5: the majority of us know to the voice referendums, so
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  Speaker 5: that should.
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  Speaker 2: Have been a clear signal.
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  Speaker 5: But again it just goes back to this old woke
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  Speaker 5: nonsense that's been ped by certain groups of society.
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  Speaker 2: And again good luck because.
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  Speaker 5: You're not going to get a lot of tourists coming
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  Speaker 5: to all the roof. That's your motto in life. Now, look,
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  Speaker 5: we've got to talk about rapper Snoop dog Snoop Doggie
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  Speaker 5: dog whatever, the cool kids and trying to call him
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  Speaker 5: these days. Now you'll know he's been in the media
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  Speaker 5: here in Australia recently because he's going to be part
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  Speaker 5: of the pregame entertainment at the AFL Grand Final.
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  Speaker 2: Now you know the lefties are up in Ar'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, his previous rap lyrics are very sexist and misogynistic. Well,
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  Speaker 5: now the left they having yet another meltdown, but this
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  Speaker 5: time because of comments he made on a podcast where
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  Speaker 5: he spoke about taking his grandchild to see a movie
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  Speaker 5: called Light Cheer back in twenty twenty two. This is
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  Speaker 5: a Disney animated film whereby there are two mothers.
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  Speaker 2: He was completely confused.
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  Speaker 5: Now can you imagine what the child would be like,
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  Speaker 5: but this is what he said to the podcast about
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  Speaker 5: taking his grandchild.
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  Speaker 8: To that my grandson in the middle of the movie,
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  Speaker 8: like Papa sloop, why she have a baby with a woman?
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  Speaker 8: She WoT me. Oh, I didn't come in for this,
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  Speaker 8: just came in watching goddamn movie. Hey man, watch the movie.
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  Speaker 8: It's like this. I'm scared to go to the movies now,
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  Speaker 8: like y'all throwing me in the middle. I don't have
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  Speaker 8: an answer for it.
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  Speaker 2: Threw me for a loop.
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  Speaker 8: These are kids that we have to show that at
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  Speaker 8: this asy like that, they're going to ask questions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: they are going to ask I don't have an answer.
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  Speaker 2: Well, guess what, snoop.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have an answer either, And I think many
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  Speaker 5: people out there probably do not have an answer, because
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  Speaker 5: this is the problem.
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  Speaker 2: You take a child to go and watch a movie and.
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  Speaker 5: You want to sit there and you want to enjoy
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  Speaker 5: the entertainment, and you don't want to be presented with
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  Speaker 5: woke ideology, right, But then you have to go through
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  Speaker 5: the process of a child going mummy, daddy, why are
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  Speaker 5: they're two mummies? Mummy daddy, Why they're two daddies? Mummy daddy?
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  Speaker 5: Why is this person dressed as a woman when they're
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  Speaker 5: actually a man. This is the problem, and this is
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  Speaker 5: where the indoctrine started. We see it. In fact, Disney
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  Speaker 5: has gone wake. We know Disney's been going wake for
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  Speaker 5: quite some time. But I've also got to say, when
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  Speaker 5: you've got a rapper who smokes weed, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know he's up there with the best of them.
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  Speaker 5: Was probably high during that interview that he's given with
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  Speaker 5: that podcast. When he says that something he is wrong,
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  Speaker 5: you know that there's something critically wrong with the left
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  Speaker 5: right now.
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  Speaker 3: So the implication is that if you would find it
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  Speaker 3: difficult to explain to a small child how two women
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  Speaker 3: can have a baby, that you are bigoted and hateful,
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  Speaker 3: or moreover, that.
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  Speaker 1: You're actually morally wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Slipdog there is just articulating what I think most grandparents
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  Speaker 3: would articulate that a they would find it difficult to
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  Speaker 3: explain to a kid how two women can have a baby,
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  Speaker 3: And secondly, they're desire to go to a movie with
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  Speaker 3: their grandkids and not have to explain biology, LGBTQ, ideology,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The other issue here
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  Speaker 3: is not cultural. It's also an AFL problem. Now, yes,
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  Speaker 3: because this is just amplified calls for Snoop Dogg to
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  Speaker 3: be ditched from the halftime entertainment at the Grand Final.
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  Speaker 3: And the only reason this is an issue is because
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  Speaker 3: the AFL have set themselves up as the most woke
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  Speaker 3: sporting organization in the country. They have a gender diversity policy,
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  Speaker 3: they've got a National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Advisory Council,
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  Speaker 3: They've got a General Manager of Inclusion Social Policy, They've
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  Speaker 3: just released their Cultural Diversity.
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  Speaker 1: Action Plan, and on and on it goes.
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  Speaker 3: Instead of just sticking to football and putting on great
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  Speaker 3: football games, the AFL have engaged in social engineering and
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  Speaker 3: now find themselves in the middle of a culture war
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  Speaker 3: where they're being eaten by their.
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  Speaker 4: Own exactly and actually, today Green Senator Sarah Hanson Young
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  Speaker 4: came out saying Snoop Dogg is a slur merchant. He's
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  Speaker 4: absolutely horrible. We can't have him performing at the AFL
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  Speaker 4: And just because the Greens are calling for him to
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  Speaker 4: be canceled, I want Snoop Dogg and I.
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  Speaker 2: Might even get it.
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  Speaker 4: I get to the Grand fas if Snoop Dogg is
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  Speaker 4: going to be there, but genuinely I mean, trying to
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  Speaker 4: explain how babies are made to children is hard at
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  Speaker 4: the best of times, let alone two women. He was
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  Speaker 4: just voicing what every other parent would have been feeling.
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  Speaker 7: And the other thing that confuses me, especially about.
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  Speaker 4: The Greens hating on Snoop Dogg, is isn't one of
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  Speaker 4: their key policies legalizing marijuana. I would have thought they
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  Speaker 4: would have absolutely loved such an ambassador for catasts.
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  Speaker 2: We've actually let's actually listen Sarah. This is what she
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  Speaker 2: said today in parliament.
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  Speaker 6: Why is it that the AFL is bringing in an
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  Speaker 6: international artist, a slur merchant, paying them two million dollars
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  Speaker 6: rather than backing bossie talent. Isaac Rankin was suspended last
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  Speaker 6: week for using homophobic slurs, as he should have been,
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  Speaker 6: But the irony is not lost on many of us
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  Speaker 6: that while Isaac Rankin gets dumped, Snoop Dogg gets two
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  Speaker 6: million dollars to play his misogynistic, homophobic music.
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  Speaker 5: I just feel like when Sarah Hanson Young stands up
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  Speaker 5: and says something, it's like the clogs start turning, but
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  Speaker 5: it's like she doesn't actually know what she's saying. She
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  Speaker 5: just says something to try and sound like she does
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  Speaker 5: know what she's saying. Look, clearly, come on. The Greens
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  Speaker 5: are absolutely ridiculous on this. But I just think it
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  Speaker 5: comes back down to a broader issue that we're seeing
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  Speaker 5: in society now, where this LGBTQ plus whatever nonsense is
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  Speaker 5: coming into classrooms. We've seen it in classrooms, but it's
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  Speaker 5: now coming into cinema as well.
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  Speaker 2: How about we let children be children, and how.
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  Speaker 5: About we let parents parents and let mom and dad
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  Speaker 5: if they want to explain to their children why two
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  Speaker 5: mummies exist, let them do not promote it on Disney.
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  Speaker 3: And the other thing about this is that give parents
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  Speaker 3: the time to choose the time of their choosing to
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  Speaker 3: explain these things. But I love the fact that the
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  Speaker 3: Greens are suddenly great champions of Australian artists. They didn't
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  Speaker 3: care when Robbie Williams performed.
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  Speaker 1: At the Grand Final. They weren't campaigning for Ossie artists.
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  Speaker 3: Then it's only when this whole LGBTQ issue comes up
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  Speaker 3: suddenly it's all about Ossie artists today. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: in case you don't know, is International dog Day. So
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  Speaker 3: if you haven't yet pampered your pooch, you've got a
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  Speaker 3: couple of hours left to make Fido feel special on
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Get an international day, but there you go. Everyone gets one.
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  Speaker 3: And there's been a survey done in The survey is
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  Speaker 3: called the twenty twenty five Australian Pet Lifestyle Index, So
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  Speaker 3: now pets not only have an International Day, pets have
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  Speaker 3: a lifestyle apparently, and the findings were quite astonishing. They
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  Speaker 3: found ninety two percent of dogs sleep indoors. We always
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: had dogs growing up, and there was never a thought
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  Speaker 3: that our dog would sleep indoors. It was always outdoors.
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  Speaker 3: But this is a stat that really got me. Sixty
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  Speaker 3: two percent of dog owners have their dogs sleep in
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: their bedroom and or in their bed with them, which
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: is just way too far. The conclusion of this survey was,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: and I quote, we are well and truly in our
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: pet parenting era.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Pets are no longer just companions.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: They're treated as family members, with diets better than ours
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: and sleeping arrangements that rival ours too. Now, I went
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: on to a website was promoting International Dog Day Frayer
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: and here's some of the suggestions as to how you
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: could celebrate.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: International Dog Day.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: This will give you a clue as to just how
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: enamored with our pets we've become. I'll ask Freyer and
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Deneco and a second if this is healthy. Number one,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: enjoy International Dog Appreciation Day at a dog cafe and spa.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Sounds tempting, or it gets better. Make some International Dog
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Day treats.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Ah, all right, what about this? Watch TV with your dog.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Watching the lights of it right now with their dogs
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: absolutely loved.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Caleb is probably a home watching the Bait with his cat.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Pay your dog's portrait with another suggestion, and finally, let
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: your dog sleep in your bed on Dog Appreciation Day.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I would do. I would let
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: my dog fetch the newspaper and maybe my slippers if
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: he's been really good. But watching TV with me getting
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: in my bed not on your life?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Well, look, I think what's really going on here is
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: people need to be having babies and grand babies, but
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: they're not. Our birth rate is plummeting, and in as
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: a substitute, people getting dogs. The moment I realized my
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: husband and I had to deliver some grand babies was
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: when I looked at my.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Mother in law.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: She had a portrait of her dog's parents like next
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: to the dog bowl. So now dog Patch could look
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: at his doggy parents. He has a bespoke like a
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: range I should say, of sweaters custom made near some
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: with his name on them. And he has a doggy
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: pram so he doesn't have to walk to the park,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: but he can go off leash once he's at the park,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: because it's a bit much.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: For him to we talk about your parents or your
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: in laws.
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: He's my in laws. I should clarify.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: You're throwing your in laws under the.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Late debate.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Julia will be watching this right now. Probably we've patch
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: also watching the late Debate.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So go Look, I just think this is really sweet.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Okay, I do not have a problem, James, I actually
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: disagree with you. I don't have a problem with people
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: wanting to sleep with their dogs. I think it's quite cute.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Look, I will preface by saying, if I was married,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: I would to want the.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Dog in the bed. I would kick the dog out
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: of the bed.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: But I actually think it's really really sweet. I think
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: that dogs are a man's best friend. And don't forget
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: people are looking for companionship in the era of loneliness.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: As they say, now see the state governments around the country.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: They want to do loneliness ministers ministers, right, minister for loneliness,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: how about just get a dog instead? That'll you are
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: your loneliness in life.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: That's really sad.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: But I honestly think animals should be great companions. But
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: you've got a loneliness problem in this country. You don't
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: solve it by giving people an animal. You solve it
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: by facilitating human contact.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I think it can actually help people. I really don't.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: You know why.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: You know why because you like, For example, in my
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: local area, there are so many dogs dogs clubs, right,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: and people always go out there, they take their dogs,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: They all mingle, they all play, they all chat. That
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: actually gets people out of the house as opposed to
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: at home in their own heads and out in public.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: So I do not have a problem, and I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: that dogs should be celebrated on this special day.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: So a survey in the United States found a third
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: of millennials what age of millennials.
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: Thirty to forty?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, so a third of people in that age group
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: would take a lower paying job so they could spend
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: more time at home with their pets.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Well that's done again.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I told you these are people that should be having children.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: They're not, so they're having done that's what you would
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: do for your child.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: Take a lot of things.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Dog, I agree, and we're projecting human attributes onto animals.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: But they are like here, okay, do you know what
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I find rolls for their dogs because they think their
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: dog's got anxiety?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: They do the dog. No, people disagree.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: They do know dogs have separation anxiety. That is actually
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: a thing, but dogs do. There's certain breeds like poodle
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: type breathes. They anxiety.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: You are going to have your dog sleep in your bed,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: then you're gonna get married, and then you've told us,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: dog goes the dog.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Dog, it's going to be on anxiety.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: The dogs has to get out of bed. Jameson No, No,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: I disagree. But do you know what though, like, I'm
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: fine and look, I don't mean to be rude here,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: but do you ever find.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: That dogs sometimes look a little bit like their owners? Yes?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Dogs end up going No, dogs end up morphing and
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: looking like their owners.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I find like I walk around parks.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: And it's almost like you can match the dog to
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: their owner, because they start morphing into one after a while.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: That's my foot I don't mean that disrespectfully.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I love dogs. I've had dogs throughout.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: My whole life, but maybe I look like my previous dogs.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: If you love dogs, let me get your opinion on this.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: There's a cafe in like art here in Sydney where
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: regulars are very familiar with Pongo, the dog owned by
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: the proprietors of said cafe. But someone gave the cafe
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: a one star review and complained that the dog had
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: been in the kitchen, and as a result of that,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: the cafe owners were issued with an eight hundred and
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: eighty dollar fine and told the fines will increase if
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: there's ever another.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Report that the dog is in the cafe.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I don't like the going online and bagging these people out,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: but I don't like a dog in a cafe either.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Now there's a dispute as to whether or not the
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: dog was in the kitchen. But when I want to
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: go and eat my food, no dogs, that's too far.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: No, not my cafe.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Well, I love a dog, no, if I had I've
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: had dogs my whole life. Unfortunately I don't have one
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: at the moment, but I want to get one. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: would totally bring it to a cafe I bring it
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: to the pum, I bring it anywhere inside the cafe
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: if they let me.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Well that's a unique selling point for some business. Isn't
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: dog friendly cafes there's a real market.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: You neque selling point for the cafe down the road.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I think No, I think it is.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: And even there are some cafes that they have dog
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: treats on hand. They give them out to you for free. Now, look,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: I don't like the dog in the kitchen. That I
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: will say. I don't like the idea of a dog
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: in a kitchen if there's food in the kitchen, because
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: there's food in the kitchen.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Food, the animals, animals, sugar.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: No, but they're self contained, and I just think it's
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: something nice.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Like I know again in my local area a lot
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: of owners.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Who do have their dogs. The dogs roam free and
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: people love them. Again, it's nice companionship. James, come on,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: where is your compassionate life?
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: James is heartless?
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: James Harpler, No, James, maybe I do need friends. Maybe
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: this is a sudden realization that they could. Georgie I
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: always having on the late debate, But really I just
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: think that beautiful.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not in the kitchen. But we love dogs. We
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: love dogs. Any dogs that are watching now, we love you,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: We love you. Happy International Dog.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Day, but except from James.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: James, but on far less happy news. Today we saw
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: really a shocking and unprecedented revelation come from ASIO and
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: the Prime Minister that Iran and the IRGC was behind two,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: at least two of the anti Semitic attacks here in Sydney.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: This was Albanezi and Mike Burgers.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Today.
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: AZIO now assesses the Iranian government directed at least two
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: and likely more attacks on Duish interests in Australia. Our
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: painstaking investigation uncovered and unpicked the links between the alleged
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: crimes and the commanders in Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: the IRGC.
• 24:48
  Speaker 10: Iran has sought to disguise its involvement, but ASIO assesses
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: it was behind the attacks on the Lewis Continental Kitchen
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: in Sydney on October twenty last year and the Israel
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: Synagogue in Melbourne on December sixth last year.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: So there are a few things that stand out to
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: me from this. I mean, the first thing is, since
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: October seven, we've been saying that anti Semitism is not
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: just a Jewish problem, It's an Australian problem. An attack
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: on Jews is an attack on Australia, and this is
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: confirmation of that attacks on Jews are being used as
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: a way to undermine our country, undermine our social cohesion.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: So that's the first thing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: The second thing is I have a strong suspicion that
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: this is just one part of the very complex and
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: dangerous web that is Iranian foreign interference in Australia. If
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: they are orchestrating attacks, what else are they orchestrating. We
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: know that China, Russia, Iran are using social media to
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: spread propaganda about Israel. I want to know they behind
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: some of these protests. We've seen people holding our portraits
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: of ayatold Hamani, of flying Iranian Iranian regime flags at
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: pro Palestine protests around Australia. There needs to be a
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: serious investigation into every single one of these organizers of
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: these protests, of the people attending who held up those signs,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: because clearly the IRGC is active, is coordinating attacks in Australia,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: and we need to know who else they have on
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: the payroll in our country.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: As a matter of national security.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I wonder how.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Bob Carr and Ed Husick, who we saw in that
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: photograph they're standing close to the portrait of the Aya
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Toll of Iran must be feeling now knowing that Iran
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: is behind a number of attacks on Jewish people in
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: this country. Now, of course they claim they didn't know
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: it was there, and they probably didn't, but if you
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: go to one of these marches, you know that there
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: are going to be all sorts of things happening, which
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: is why I think most sensible people would stay well
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: away from them, even if they are concerned about what's
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: happening in Palestine, as all of us are concerned about
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: civilians there. The other thing this demonstrates is the absolute
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: hatred that the Islamic government of Iran has for Jews.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: That you would think they've got enough that they're doing
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: in their own region to try and kill Jews and
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: persecute Jews without stretching their tentacles all the way to
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Australia right down under to harass Jews here. It just
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: shows you how manevolent, how toxic, and how difficult to
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: eradicate this hatred of Jews really is. And from the
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Islamic Republic of Iran where it's a religious hatred that
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: is whipped up and propagated by their government.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Well, don't forget Iran has got tentacles everywhere. Don't forget
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: that Iran is funding terror across the world. Iran is
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: supporting the military of Hamas and they're funding Hamas.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Iran is also funding Hezbola, So.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: They've got their fingers in every part. The Hooti rebels
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: that they're absolutely funding it. First point, I would make
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: though photo that we saw so that was from the
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: harbor Bridge protest where you saw Bob Carr and current
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Labor MP ed Hugh Sick.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: That photo will haunt Labor.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Forever now based on what the revelations were today that
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: we've got Iran responsible for at least two attacks here
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: in Australia and ASIO is investigating more. That image I
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: think sums up exactly what is wrong with the Labor
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Party right now in this country. It shows a complete
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: lack of respect, lack of complete disregard for all Jewish Australians,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: not just Jewish Australians, for.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: All of us, all of us have been for one second. Yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: you've made a great point. You've just reminded me of
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: something because I was giving them the benefit of the doubt. Right,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: maybe they didn't know it was there, but remember Tony
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Abbott when he gave a speech to there was to
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: ditch the which side exactly, and the left did not
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: give him the benefit of the doubt.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: No, no, it was there.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: They crucified him for that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: They carry on.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: You make a very good point.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Well, I was just going to say, because that photo
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: now is a I mean, it was a disgrace to
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: start with, but it just represents.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: So much more now about the Labor Party after today's revelations.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Second point I would make is that our colleague are brilliant.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Colleague Caroline Marcus.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Reported last year that Labor was preparing to list Iran's
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Revolutionary Regards as a terror group, but then suddenly had
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: a change of mind, a little bit of an epiphany
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: last year, and this was based on freedom of information requests.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: And now here we are, almost twelve months later, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: where ari where are we now today? Labour's had some
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: sort of come to Jesus moment, going on, well we
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: better prescribe them a terrorist organization.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you have just done that last year?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Here's another thing, Labour gave zero support really to Donald
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Trump for attacking Iran's nuclear facilities. Now we realize, thank
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: god for Donald Trump, he was attacking what the Australian
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: government is now going to designate a terror organization's nuclear
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: weapons facilities. But Trump got no credit for that. He
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: got sort of just very curt responses from Penny Wong,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: from Anthony Albanizi for that attack. They refused to come
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: out and positively support the US in their military action.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Now the Australian government says, oh, actually they are a
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: terrorist organization and they've been attacking Australian Well.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I think this is a government that has been at
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: best willfully blind, at worst completely negligent and knowingly going
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: along with this. And if you think about it, alban
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Ezy's government has played right into the hands of Iran. Remember,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: October seven was launched because Saudi Arabia was about to
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: normalize relations with Israel and join the Abraham Accords. October
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: seven was launched as a way to stop the peace process,
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: and as a senior Hamas official said, no one was
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: talking about Palestinian statehood before October seven, before all these rallies,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: before all the anti Israel anti Semitic retoric.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: It was not a conversation that was being had.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Now fast forward almost two years later and we're saying
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: we're going to recognize Palestinian statehood. We have turned our
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: backs entirely on Israel. We have pivoted more towards China
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: and pushed ourselves away from the US. We have played
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: completely and utterly into the hands of Iran. And it
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: is embarrassing. But you see their operation has worked. October
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: seven was successful. The relentless rallies against Israel have been
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: so successful. You have labor former ministers marching in front
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: of portraits of Kimani. We have been muted as a
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: nation by a terrorist state, and that is to our
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: eternal shame.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Well, don't forget the day after October seven, remember Penny
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Wong called for what was it, she said, restraint? She
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: called for a restraint the bridge protests of the Harbor
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Bridge in Sydney a couple of weeks ago. The day after,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Anthony Aarberesi came out and said, no, it was it
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: was quite peaceful.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: It was quite peaceful.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Well, Anthony Aarberesi, guess what that photo is going to
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: haunt you and your ministers for the rest of time now,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: and that is an absolute disgrace and it's absolute on
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: our bow.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Now, Look, we talk about war, and let's.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Be honest, there's really only one country that is forging
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: ahead with a plan for war and is really happy
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: to stamp and put their foot down, and that is
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: the United States. Because Donald Trump is now considering renaming
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: their Department of Defense back to its old original title
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Department of War. Now this was actually its original name,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: known for one hundred and fifty years. The President says
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: he's pursuing this possible reversal simply because.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: It sounds better and makes America stronger.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Have a listen, we won the World War One, World
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: War Two, it was called the Department of.
• 32:32
  Speaker 11: War, and to me, that's really what it is.
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: It's defense is a part of that.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: But I have a feeling we're going to be changing.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm talking to the people.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Everybody likes that now.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: It was known as the War Department from seventeen eighty
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: nine to nineteen forty seven, and then of course the
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Democrats came in and tried to change it. But I
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: just think that America is sending a very strong signal
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: to the world here. Department of War has a very
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: strong tone to it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It suggests we win wars, we.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Crush our enemies, we look at enemies in the eye,
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: and it's about clarity in my view, none of this
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: wishy washy, soft bureaucrat nonsense.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: America first, that America will.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Defend, which is what Pete Hegseth said when he was
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: made Secretary of Defense. I wonder if he'll be Secretary
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: of War now, but he talked about the fact that
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: the US military has to be a fighting machine, not
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: some social engineering outfit that happens to have a few
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: tanks on the side. And so you're absolutely right, Nika.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: This provides focus not just for America's enemies, but for
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: America's troops and generals, and also for the American population
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: because in the Western world we haven't experienced war. Really,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: this generation knows nothing of it and no wonder left.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: These are reacting to it. You can't call it the
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Department of War. That sounds violent.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: That is kind of the point. And now they're accusing Trump,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of course of being a warmonger. Despite that, one am
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I doing more to try to bring peace and calm
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: around the globe than Trump.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: But he is a realist.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: And so many of our Western leaders are ruling and
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: governing in a world that they wish existed rather than
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: the world that does exist. And whatever you think of Trump,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: you've got to give him that he's a realist.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: And I think that I mean the symbolism of moving
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: from Department of Defense to Department of War. Yes, esthetically
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: it sounds better, but there's deep symbolism there because since
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: World War II, the West has basically said, and really
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: the world, let's all just pull back, let's all just
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: be weak, kind and inclusive and hope that everyone gets along.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: All that has done is in Bolden, China, Russia, Iran.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: We don't have the luxury of doing that anymore. So
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: this shift saying actually, no, we're not going to be
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: on the back foot just defending. We're going to be
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: proactively going out into the world. As was said at
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: the NATO conference, that is home the US home, they're
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: here and they're ready for war.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of realism, there's none of that in Chicago,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: where crime is absolutely out of control. For thirteen consecutive years,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Chicago's had the most murders of any city in the
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: United States. In fact, Chicago has more murders twice as
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: many as Islamabad and fifteen times more murders than Deli.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: And yet the Chicago mayor says the way to solve
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: violence is not by jailing people, because that's racist and immoral.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Have listened to the mayor.
• 35:25
  Speaker 12: We cannot incarcerate. Are we out of violence? We've already
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: tried that. If we've ended up with the largest prison
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: population in the world without solving the problems of crime
• 35:36
  Speaker 12: and violence, the addiction on jails and incarceration in this country,
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: we have moved past that. It is racist, it is immoral,
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: it is unholy, and it is not the way to
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: drive violence down.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: It's immoral to jail violent offenders and unholy. No wonder
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: there's crime problem in Chicago, and no wonder Donald Trump
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: is suggesting maybe he should send the National Guard there.
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Of course, the governor of Illinois, Jay Pritzk, he's having
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: none of that. He says, if Trump does that, it's
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: just a sign he's tried to warm us up for
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: authoritarian rule.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Is he speaking?
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: This is about the President of the United States and
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: his complicit Lackey Stephen Miller searching for ways to lay
• 36:20
  Speaker 11: the groundwork to circumvent our democracy, militarize our cities, and
• 36:25
  Speaker 11: end elections.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Now, just before we get to dissecting that, he went
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: on to talk about how Trump will not live rent
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: free in his head.
• 36:36
  Speaker 11: We're very pleased about the progress that we're making. I
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: know that I live rent free in the president's head,
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: and I wish he would spend some time in Chicago
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: so that he could see what a lovely city we have.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Governor Collop, what do you do if the National Guard
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: is activated and comes in?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love such a great part. I don't know
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: who the cameraman was.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Can I just point out that first of the cargo.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Mayor's name is Brandon Johnson has a fourteen percent approval.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Ratings very high.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: Well, he has the worst mayor approval in US history.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: What is it with the left that they don't want
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: to crack down on crime and why is it always racist? Well,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: why they play that it's not racist to crack down
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: on crime. You should be celebrating the fact that Donald
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Trump's putting an.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: End to it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Well, they certainly can't allow Trump to come in, because
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: that would be an admission.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: That they have.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: They fail the long minutes exactly.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: And the mayor of Illinois is a potential Democrat presidential candidate,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: and so he certainly can't have Trump.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: They've got to realize this is not a winning strategy.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Opposing law and order is one way to guarantee you
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: will lose totally.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: including our offensive Minister Richard Marles has headed off to
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: the United States, but he still hasn't scheduled a meeting
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: with his US counterpart.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And we look at Alburn's Herald's Son and how they're.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Covering that horrific double murder of two police officers.
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: That more.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: In just a moment, Welcome back to the late debate.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at tomorrow's headlines. We'll start with
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Melbourne's Herald's Son, Beneker. Obviously a very difficult day in Melbourne.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a really difficult day. Two police officers
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: have been shot dead. The suspect remains on the run.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: You can have a look at the front page of
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: the Herald's Son. Hatred and Heroes is the caption Sovereign citizen.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Gunmen murdered cops in cold blood. Man hunters suspect flees
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: into dense bush. Two police officers were murdered in cold
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: blood in a sovereign citizen's alleged ambush on an isolated
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Victorian farm. The Herald's son has been told the members
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: had boarded a bus used by Desi Freeman as a
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: home to carry out a gun check. It is then
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: alleged that mister Freeman, who was inside, suddenly emerged and
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: blasted them with a shotguard. Now as we go to
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: air tonight, this man remains on the run. Police are
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: still investigating the circumstances that led to this, what happened?
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Who exactly this alleged sovereign citizen? You know self sovereign citizen?
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Was but a shocking day for the police. It is
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: so so sad to hear, and no doubt it's just
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: rocked all of Victorian police.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: And we just forget that every time a police officer
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: puts on his uniform and goes to work, he or
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: she are taking their lives in their own hands. You
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: forget how dangerous a job it is. At the point
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: where and I presume I guess a weapons check is
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: it'd probably be a little bit on edge, but even
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: a traffic stop, you just never know the most ordinary thing.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: But it happened in Queensland.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Turn in in a moment.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Remember in Queensland it happened as well when those police
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: officers were gone down a few years ago, again just
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: going for a simple check.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Gun down. It's just terrible.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: It's such a tragedy. And to think he's still at
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: large as well.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the community down there in Victoria.
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: Is still in lockdown, so it's just it's just horrible.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: But moving on to the Australian now, tomorrow's front page
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: is obviously.
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: All about Iran.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Iran attacks US it runs Islamist regime used a web
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: of spies and organized criminals to launch multiple terrorist attacks
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: on Australia's Jewish community, in an unprecedented assault on the
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: nation's social fabric that it sparks the severing of diplomatic
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: ties with Tehran. The Ietolas ambassador to Australia has been expelled,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: and Canberra's envoy in Tehran has fled the country with
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: his staff after Asio informed the government that Tehran was
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: behind at least two attacks last year's fire bombings of
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Melbourne's Adas Synagogue and a Kosher cafe in Sydney. I mean,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: it's just so unbelievable to think a foreign government carried
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: out the bombing of a synagogue and a cafe in Australia.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: Is that not an act of war?
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Rig Sheridan's got a great column printed on the front
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: page of Tomorrow's Australian where he makes the point that
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: it's not only Iran, but other nations that are hostile
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: to Australia have far too many diplomats in this country,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: and that if the government is smart, they will take
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: this lesson and start applying it and sifting through who
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: actually is in the country from nations that we know
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: are spying on us and posing threats.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it makes me think about the Chinese London
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: mega embassy we covered a few weeks ago. They wanted
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: to They want to build a ginormous embassy underneath London
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: with undisclosed basements and tunnels and all sorts of things.
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: And it's just like, guys, the time.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: It's over, we are so clearly not in peacetime anymore.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: We have to get our act together. No, exactly, absolutely well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: also in The Australian Tomorrow. Another headline is DC dash
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: causes confusion. Deputy Prime Minister Richard Miles was due to
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: sit down with Donald Trump's number two, his top diplomat
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: and the US president's policy grew on Tuesday early Wednesday
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Australian Eastern Standard time to discuss issues such as the
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: future of ORCUS. No meeting had been locked in between
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: the Defense Minister and his US counterpart, Pete Hegseth as
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: of Tuesday evening, despite this being the public reason for
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: mister Miles's decision to rush to Washington. I mean, how
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: much more embarrassing can we become as a huntry.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so, not only can our Prime minister not get
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: a meeting with Donald Trump, but now our Defense minister
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: is also struggling to get a meeting with his American counterpart.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: And we wonder why the orchestrale is up in the air,
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: and we wonder why our relationship with the United States
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: is going backwards for the first time.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Well, hello, labor is the problem here?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the front page of Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: They of course have got the main story there. Iran's
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: hired hate.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: As you would expect.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: But the other story on the front page that got
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: our attention concerns the town of Parks population twelve thousand,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: where the maternity ward, state of the art hospital wing
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: has set unused for six years because of a shortage
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: of country doctors. Now, this maternity ward costs seventy three
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: million dollars to build. It's as good as any maternity
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: ward in the city of Sydney. But three years after
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: it was opened it was closed because they just didn't
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: have any staff. And it's sat there collecting dust for
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: the past six years. So the ladies of Parks who
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: are pregnant can't use a state of the art facility
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: right in their own neighborhood. They've got to drive forty
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: fifty kilometers to Forbes to get maternity services. Something that
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: government should sort out them quickly. It's ridiculous to have
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: this just sitting there.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: Mothball, yeah, one hundred percent.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is such an issue across so much
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: of regional Australia though, just crippling doctors, shortages essential workers.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: It's so hard.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: We need better incentives to get people out into the regions, clearly,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: and to think we've already spent seventy three million dollars
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: of tax payer money building this thing, just for it
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: to sit empty for more than half a decade.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: In what a way, But it also represents a bigger
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: problem because you know a lot of people in the regions,
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: they can't access doctors, or there's a queue to even
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: see a doctor or a psychologist. They literally to travel
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: hours and hours. This has always been a problem, but
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: it's actually been.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Particular a problem for parks. This is where the front
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: cover is.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: It's been a very I've interviewed doctors out that way
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: before and they literally say they are so stretched to
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: the limit.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: There is a complete crisis.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: But you've got to feel for these mothers who are
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: due any time now and having to sit in a
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: car for an hour or two just to deliver a baby.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, all right, let's go to the front page of
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: who's got the Northern Territory News?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Is that you, Denika, None of us do.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: But I'll take the Northern Territory News front to cover
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: their freight argie bargie. There are fears decades of road
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: infrastructure neglect could lead to food shortages in a remote
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: community and a mass exodus of residents when a vital
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: barge service ceases operations. So basically, what's happening up in
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: the Northern Territory Now, there's a lot of uncertainty about
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: this barge which has been providing a lot of food,
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: a lot of I guess security to a.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Local remote community up there.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: This barge is about to cease operation, so certainly concerning.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: You go very well, donenderneath it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: We're going to take a break.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: By the way, quick shout out to our Sky News colleague,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: host of the US Report, James Morrow, who messaged us
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: during the program to say he's at home watching the
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Late Debate with his dog Poppy, who we hope to
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: have a photograph of after this commercial break as well,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: will show you the most epic tennis meltdown you have
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: ever seen. All of that, plus hopefully James Morrow's dog
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: in just a moment, welcome back to the Late Debate
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: where it's not just humans but dogs that are watching
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: as well. Our Sky News colleague, James Morrow, I think,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: sent in a photo of his dog Poppy the Late Debate,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: so that's quite a cute.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: I don't think Poppy was very happy with your commentary
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: tonight on dogs.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: No, I just said Poppy shouldn't be in the Morrow bed.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Poppy is to be in the Morrow lounge room watching
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: the Late I feel like Poppy.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Would bark at you if Poppy haven't got the opportunity
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: to be in your presence after your shocking comments on dogs.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: While we're talking about dogs, one of our producers got
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: so excited she insisted we show a photo of her dog.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: So there's Winnie, one of our producers dogs.
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: There you go.
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: That's definitely a dog that sleeps in a bed.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: I feel like our wonderful producer Montana she she definitely would.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's a that's a bed dog.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: He's very comfortable being surrounded by wall, blank busy blanket,
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: as he should be, as is his right as a dog.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I could say, let's move on with the program.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Talk to me about Abby Chatfield have too well.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Occasionally we like to go into Aby Chatfield's social media
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: just to rage watch whatever she's ranting about that day,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: although I can't because she's actually blocked me on Yes,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: but I still get sent everything, which is a lot
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: of fun.
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: Here.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: She was recently talking about how she hasn't know if
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: she's gonna be able to have kids because the human
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: species might be going extinct because it's the climate crisis.
• 46:54
  Speaker 13: I want to have a kid. I just feel like
• 46:58
  Speaker 13: the I want to cry. I feel like the opportunity
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: and the choice has been taken away from me. I
• 47:03
  Speaker 13: don't want to be worrying about if there's water or
• 47:07
  Speaker 13: food for my child. And now I'm watching my child
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: start to death. Oh now I'm watching. Now I'm having
• 47:13
  Speaker 13: to go and forage. I don't know how it happened,
• 47:18
  Speaker 13: but I know it's not going to be good.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I'm sort of concerned for her mental well being here
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: because she seems like genuinely convinced, or maybe it's just
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: an act for social media that she's going to watch
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: a kids start and they won't have water, and that
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: the choice and opportunity has been taken from her.
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, look, what planet is she living on?
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: No, look, I don't think this is the first time
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: she's made some sort of ludicrous compt First, ye, I
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: would say I'd take it as a badge of honor
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: that she's blocked it on social media. Fraid I'd be honored.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: What an absolute honor?
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah again, exactly exactly.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: But look, you know then don't have kids, Sorry, don't
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: don't if that's your If that's your number one concern,
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: I'm sure being a parent, James, you could attest to
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: this is a lot more difficult than that.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: So yeah, if you've met my kids, it's not difficult
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: at all. They are the most easy kids to parent. Ever.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Before we go, I'm going to show you the most
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: epic tennis meltdown ever. World number thirteen Daniel Medvedev was
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: playing in the US Open. He lost the game and
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: then he lost his temper.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: The rackets are going now.
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: It's kind of joke that.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Ugly sees.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: It.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Needs to be careful here now.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: John McEnroe, of all people, said he needs to take
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: some time off. When John McEnroe says you need to
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: take time off because you are starting to lose that,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: you know you have gone too far.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: That was a bit of a mental breakdown right there.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Someone needs to check in on him. If I like
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: his wife, i'd be very concerned.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the Sabrina Carpenter song manchild? There you go, Medvellev,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: that's you take.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Some time off and do some pickleball or something.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe that'll oh, well, that's all we've got time for tonight.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Stick around coming up is to read a pennety show
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: good Night,