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Chuck in the Morning 8-5 Hour 2: Headlines and the Dodger Problem, Talk of Camp and Beau Stephens. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: This is pitch number nine to Donovan hen and the
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Speaker 1: challenge coming from Dingler and this game, let's find out
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Speaker 1: he begin doing. That's how it ends tonight, the Mariners
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Speaker 1: laying a game one and they lose eight to nothing
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Speaker 1: in the final score against the Tigers.
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Speaker 2: Hey, great morning to you. Chuck Powell reporting live from
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Speaker 2: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center for another day of Seahawks
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Speaker 2: training camp. It's going to have you with us hour
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Speaker 2: number two of this Wednesday edition of the radio show.
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Speaker 2: We have changed things around a little bit here today.
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Speaker 2: No reckless at breakfast at seven forty five. That'll come
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Speaker 2: your way a little later on in the show eight
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Speaker 2: forty five. As a matter of fact, Also, Greg Bell
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Speaker 2: not at seven oh five today. If you were anticipating
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Speaker 2: your Greg Bell conversation, it's because we're going to double
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Speaker 2: up on it at nine o'clock right down here at
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Speaker 2: our set later on this morning. So Greg will be
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Speaker 2: with us for an entire hour from nine to ten,
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Speaker 2: and as a preview to his own show, if you will,
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Speaker 2: it'll just roll right over, so you get three hours
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Speaker 2: of Greg Bell today. So we'll do that at nine
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Speaker 2: o'clock at his reaction to the Hard Knock Show, some
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Speaker 2: of the news items that were delivered during the Hired
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Speaker 2: Knock Show, stuff that he didn't have access to previously,
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Speaker 2: that he's written about since, and then of course his
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Speaker 2: own reporting as well here at Seahawks training camp. So
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Speaker 2: we'll do that from nine to ten today as a
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Speaker 2: the highlight provided there Aaron on the call all the
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Speaker 2: last play of the game, which I did not stick
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Speaker 2: around for. Yeah I did, and I wish I didn't.
2:07
Speaker 2: It was shower time. It was shower time once great
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Speaker 2: Labor Torres hit a home run. So the Tigers just
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Speaker 2: waxed the Mariners last night by a final score of
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Speaker 2: eight to nothing. So certainly not the response you were
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Speaker 2: wonning offensively for a team that added at the deadline.
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Speaker 2: A Taylor Ward got friendon Donovan Back. We spent a
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Speaker 2: large part of our show yesterday, being excited about the
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Speaker 2: new lineup, how much deeper it looks, how much stronger
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Speaker 2: it looks, And what happens? You have to go out
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Speaker 2: and face maybe the hottest bitcher in all of the sport,
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Speaker 2: Troy Melton. You thought, maybe you're dodging a Trek Scruble bullet,
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Speaker 2: and instead they hit you with a Troy Melton axe
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Speaker 2: right between the eyes and you die either way. But
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Speaker 2: Troy Melton dominated the Mariners last night. Emerson Hancock didn't
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Speaker 2: get a lot of defensive support, but then again, he
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Speaker 2: didn't pitch that great last night either, and the Tigers
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Speaker 2: run away with a victory by a final score of
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Speaker 2: eight to nothing. Puts the Mariners three and a half
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Speaker 2: games back in the division because both Texas and the
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Speaker 2: Astros won last night, and so same two teams at
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Speaker 2: it tonight. Six to forty. First pitch should have a
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Speaker 2: much easier go at it. Brian Woz starts for the Mariners.
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Speaker 2: Drew Anderson, right hander, gets the call for the Tigers.
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Speaker 2: This is where they do miss Trek Schooble in this series.
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Speaker 2: They're going to have to start tonight a guy that's
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Speaker 2: been a relief pitcher all season long, and he's got
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Speaker 2: some talent, but certainly an easier matchup tonight for the offense.
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Speaker 2: So I think I'm gonna wait to judge the new
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Speaker 2: look offense for a couple of games. But if Drew
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Speaker 2: Anderson does the same thing to them that Troy Milton
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Speaker 2: did last night, then yes, we will all panic and
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Speaker 2: sell our homes, perfose. Yeah, that's the way that'll be.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Some other news just quickly that I will get through
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game tomorrow in the National Football League
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Speaker 2: so Football this year. Game tomorrow between the Cardinals and
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Speaker 2: the Panthers Hall of Fame Weekend, of course, will feature
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Speaker 2: Panther Luke Keighley, Cardinal Larry Fitzgerald, and many others. Drew
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Speaker 2: Brees this weekend in Campton, Ohio Husky start there camp tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Coaches Poll came out ranked Ohio state number one. You
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Speaker 2: dub his rate number nineteen in the first Coaches poll.
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Speaker 2: Storm Liberty tonight at four o'clock. Sounders playing in the
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Speaker 2: League's Cup today Little League World Series ten o'clock Snahomers
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Speaker 2: versus Canada as Snowhomish softball team trying to stay alive.
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Speaker 2: They do have one loss, they can't afford another one.
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Speaker 2: So they defeated Texas yesterday and they do remain alive.
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Speaker 2: And of course the Mariners did waive Mitch Garver and
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Speaker 2: Rob Refsneider, enormous sources of frustration here over the last
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Speaker 2: three and a half years, two and a half years
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Speaker 2: with Mariner fans Garver and then Refsnyder. This season, they
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Speaker 2: are no longer here to kick around. Johnny Peeda added
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Speaker 2: to the roster yesterday, and of course they made room
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Speaker 2: for Donovan back from the IL and for Ward traded
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Speaker 2: for at the deadline. We'll talk more about those things
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Speaker 2: specifically a little bit later on in the show, but
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Speaker 2: I did want to spend some time today. I did
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Speaker 2: this earlier in the week nine o'clock Monday, really got
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Speaker 2: into the whole Major League Baseball structure of whether it's
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Speaker 2: fair or unfair, whether we're going to have a lockout
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Speaker 2: because Major League Baseball is trying to prove to the
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Speaker 2: world that they need a salary cap and the players
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Speaker 2: associations for a bunch street and to lead to some ugliness.
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Speaker 2: We're actually going to discuss this at some pretty great
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Speaker 2: length with a pretty knowledgeable person in this area. You
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Speaker 2: know him, Hugh Millan. We're going to talk about this tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have Hugh on the show because Hugh was
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Speaker 2: there as a players rep in the National Football League
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Speaker 2: when they agreed to a salary cap. Think about that,
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Speaker 2: Think about this course that we have at our fingertips
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Speaker 2: that we can use here at the radio station that
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Speaker 2: can give us insight like that. So I asked him
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Speaker 2: if he'd be willing to come on tomorrow. Of course
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Speaker 2: he agreed, good team player, He'll join us today or
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Speaker 2: assume me tomorrow at nine o'clock to discuss this. But
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Speaker 2: I've discussed the Dodger problem in the National Football League
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Speaker 2: and the Major League Baseball, I should say, and I
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Speaker 2: actually addressed it yesterday just to clarify one thing, and
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Speaker 2: that was I don't I'm not blaming the Dodgers for
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Speaker 2: using whatever tricks and resources they have to be as
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Speaker 2: great a champion as they can possibly be. I'm not
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Speaker 2: blaming them. I am blaming Baseball's system for allowing the
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Speaker 2: Dodgers to act the way that they have in the
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Speaker 2: last couple of years. You know, we already our entire
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Speaker 2: lives lived with the knowledge that big market clubs had
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Speaker 2: financial advantages over small market clubs, and I defended that.
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Speaker 2: I defended that pretty much my entire career. And on
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Speaker 2: the basis of this that there's more parody and it's
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Speaker 2: a proven fact in Major League Baseball than there is
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Speaker 2: in the National Football League. There's a greater turnover in
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Speaker 2: playoff teams from year to year. There are more different
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Speaker 2: champions in Major League Baseball than there are in the
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Speaker 2: National Football League. Despite the fact that we've been bred
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Speaker 2: to believe the Dodgers and Yankees win every year. Well,
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers have won the last two seasons, but they
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Speaker 2: won one championship by the size of a baseball cleat,
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Speaker 2: one rubber cleat on the shoe of Isaiah Kiner Filefa
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Speaker 2: was the difference between the Dodgers winning the World Series
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Speaker 2: last year and the Blue Jays winning the World Series
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Speaker 2: the previous year. They weren't even the best team in
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Speaker 2: their division. The San Diego Padres were the best team
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Speaker 2: in their division. And the Padres absolutely blew a two
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Speaker 2: to zero series lead against the Dodgers because for some
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Speaker 2: reason they couldn't get a hit off of a relief pitcher.
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Speaker 2: The Dodgers had to go pretty much all bullpen the
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Speaker 2: rest of the series, and the Padres couldn't score runs
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Speaker 2: off of their bullpen because the Dodgers starting pitchers were
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Speaker 2: that banged up, And the Dodgers win that series and
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Speaker 2: go on to win their first championship. Even this year,
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers don't have the best record in Baseball. They
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Speaker 2: don't even have it in the National League. That belongs
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Speaker 2: to the Milwaukee Brewers. And as we sit here this morning,
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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves are only a half game back of
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers for the two seed, so they might not
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Speaker 2: even have any kind of buy in the first round
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Speaker 2: coming up. And so certainly other teams are proving we
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Speaker 2: can compete with the Dodgers, even with their gigantic payroll
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Speaker 2: and all of their weird, quirky things that they're doing
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Speaker 2: to take advantage of the system, even with them adding
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Speaker 2: Trek Scooble, who lost last night to the Chicago Cubs
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Speaker 2: in his debut as a Los Angeles Dodger. So I
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Speaker 2: have been arguing for a long time, pretty much my
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Speaker 2: entire career, against this notion that teams like the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: and the Yankees don't win every year, and that small
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Speaker 2: and medium market clubs can compete with them, just not consistently,
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Speaker 2: just not year to year. And I was okay with that.
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Speaker 2: I defended not having a salary cap. But things have
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Speaker 2: changed recently and we'll get into that in a moment.
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Speaker 2: But what I really find almost hilarious are the same
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Speaker 2: people that live to bash baseball on the national level,
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Speaker 2: the people that for years fed this notion that Seattle
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Speaker 2: and Milwaukee and Tampa have no shot against the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: and the Yankees. And we're wrong about that. I mean,
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Speaker 2: they had a better shot, they had advantages, no doubt
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Speaker 2: about it. But for years, I'm decades, we have heard
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Speaker 2: that small market club don't have a shot against the
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Speaker 2: big boys. That's been the national narrative from lazy ass
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Speaker 2: talk show hosts who don't even like baseball, and the
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Speaker 2: only time they ever talk about it is to rip
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Speaker 2: on it and spread untruths. And the same people now,
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Speaker 2: when the Dodgers have now been given extra advantages to winning,
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Speaker 2: the same guys. I can name them for you, I'd
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Speaker 2: give you one, Colin Goward. The same guys that were
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Speaker 2: ripping on it like the sport's broken have flipped to
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Speaker 2: the other side to say anybody bashing the Dodgers. They're
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Speaker 2: out of their minds that the Dodgers aren't the problem,
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Speaker 2: it's everyone else. How did that change when the problem
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Speaker 2: has gotten magnified, it has gotten worse on the basis
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Speaker 2: of two things. The Dodgers not only had all of
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Speaker 2: those advantages, but now they are truly using loopholes in
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Speaker 2: the rules to give them even greater advantages. This deferred
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Speaker 2: payment thing should have been snuffed out by Major League Baseball.
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Speaker 2: The Dodgers don't even pay show Aotani. Wait if you
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Speaker 2: There was a former player by the name of Archie
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Speaker 2: Bradley who apparently is doing some media work in Arizona.
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Speaker 3: He's a pitcher.
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Speaker 2: He didn't end up having a great career. He was
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Speaker 2: a high draft pick, very talented guy, and I had
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Speaker 2: a fine career, but he ended I'm not having a
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Speaker 2: great career. And by the end of the sea his career,
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Speaker 2: you know. And this was, you know, seventy eight years
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Speaker 2: ago when he retired, and he was just holding on,
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Speaker 2: holding on to his career, just trying to get one
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Speaker 2: more paycheck, you know, that sort of thing. He was
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Speaker 2: doing a podcast recently and he said, do you realize
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Speaker 2: that I was paid more in my last year than
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers pay. Show hey Otani right now because everything
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Speaker 2: else has been deferred into the future. One point one
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Speaker 2: billion dollars of deferred payments for the Dodgers into the future.
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Speaker 2: How they're going to pay it? Nobody knows, I guess.
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Speaker 2: The only conclusion that I can draw is that they
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Speaker 2: know something that the rest of baseball doesn't know, because
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Speaker 2: the rest of the owners aren't behaving that way. They
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Speaker 2: do a little deferred payment, but certainly not to that degree.
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Speaker 2: Do they know what's gonna happen in the collective bargaining agreement?
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Speaker 2: Do they know what's gonna happen to future financial resources
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Speaker 2: for baseball? Are they counting on it being a bonanza
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Speaker 2: in the future, or is the owner just gonna try
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Speaker 2: to win as many championships as he can, build up
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Speaker 2: the value, sell the franchise, and then take the extra
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Speaker 2: money that he made and paid off all of his
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Speaker 2: debts to show Aotani, Yoshi, Yoma, Moto, and everybody else,
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Speaker 2: is that the way they're going to do it, because
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Speaker 2: that's not running a business from the standpoint of everybody
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Speaker 2: else is trying to make it make sense on the field,
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Speaker 2: and the Dodgers get to live in this fantasy world
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Speaker 2: where we don't even have to pay you real money
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Speaker 2: and we can use you show Hey to recruit others
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Speaker 2: from Japan. So now we've captured the Japanese market and
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Speaker 2: we have a player who gets to pick and choose
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Speaker 2: which Japanese stars he wants to come over and play
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Speaker 2: for the Los Angeles Dodgers, and many of them deferring
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Speaker 2: payments into the future. So that's another advantage that this
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Speaker 2: has given them. And then let's talk about free agency.
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Speaker 2: How fair is it that you are outbidding teams for
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Speaker 2: free agents like shoe a Otani and you don't have
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Speaker 2: to pay them in the moment. How unfair is that
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Speaker 2: to already teams that can't stack up to you financially,
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Speaker 2: And now you get to use monopoly money, You get
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Speaker 2: to use bitcoin to lock down players. Say that you're
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Speaker 2: paying them a certain salary, but you really don't have
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Speaker 2: to pay them until the year twenty fifty. Who knows
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Speaker 2: if baseball is even around in the year twenty fifty
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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, So how is that fair? On the
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Speaker 2: free agent market, if you sign a guy, you should
14:18
Speaker 2: figure out how to pay him every single dollar that
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Speaker 2: you owe him in that contract while he's actively playing.
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Speaker 2: Otherwise it's not fair to anyone else. And then think
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Speaker 2: about how that is advantageous to you on the trade market.
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Speaker 2: You know everybody's ragging on the Milwaukee Brewers, well, why
14:35
Speaker 2: didn't you step up? Why didn't you give away your
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Speaker 2: top prospects like the Dodgers did? Because the Brewers have
14:42
Speaker 2: to have those prospects in order to compete with the
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Speaker 2: Dodgers because they can't outspend them, so they need their prospects.
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Speaker 2: And they did offer a couple of great prospects. The
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Speaker 2: Dodgers just offered a greater package. And you want to
14:58
Speaker 2: know why they offered a greater package because they know
15:02
Speaker 2: they're going to resign trek Skouble. How can you match
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Speaker 2: what the Dodgers are offering if you're the Milwaukee Brewers
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Speaker 2: when you really need those prospects in order to be
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Speaker 2: as good as you've been the last ten years, and
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Speaker 2: now in an open trade market you are operating with, Well,
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Speaker 2: we could give more, but we know he's leaving after
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Speaker 2: three months because there's no way we can pay a
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Speaker 2: guy sixty million dollars a year. We're just not that
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Speaker 2: kind of market, and the Dodgers are operating in the
15:32
Speaker 2: same trade negotiations with whatever they give you will give
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Speaker 2: you more because we know we're not trading for a
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Speaker 2: guy we're only going to have for three months. We
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Speaker 2: know we are going to resign him in the offseason
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Speaker 2: and have him long term. Completely different trade When you
15:50
Speaker 2: are going to get somebody for two months, and when
15:53
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna get somebody for ten years, that
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Speaker 2: is a completely different trade value. George k Herby would
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Speaker 2: have fetched a bigger package than Trek Scouoble at the
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Speaker 2: trading deadline because teams knew they had three postseason runs
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Speaker 2: at a really reasonable salary with George Kirby. We could
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Speaker 2: have gotten a bigger package for George Kirby on the
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Speaker 2: trade market than what the Dodgers gave up for Tarrek
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Speaker 2: scouble because years of control and value of salary mean
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Speaker 2: something in this sport except to one team, the Los
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Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers, who not only get to outspend everyone, but
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Speaker 2: they've also, for whatever reason, have decided that they're going
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Speaker 2: to be a lot more lucrative twenty years from now
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Speaker 2: and they'll just pay all of these players who have
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Speaker 2: agreed to deferred payments and we don't have to worry
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Speaker 2: about paying them right now. I mean, if that's not
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Speaker 2: a grossly unfair system that has to be checked and corrected,
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Speaker 2: then I don't know what is. And so here's somebody
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Speaker 2: that used to argue against all of those that said
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Speaker 2: it was unfair telling you now that it has certainly
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Speaker 2: crossed over. And baseball has a perception problem. For years,
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Speaker 2: people have been brainwashed into thinking that their team doesn't
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Speaker 2: have a chance against the Dodgers and the Yankees, and
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Speaker 2: Baseball needs to change that orcuit me, but our own
17:23
Speaker 2: and our owners being cheap are the reasons that we
17:26
Speaker 2: don't get to celebrate a World Series. So this is
17:29
Speaker 2: the perception, and now the Dodgers have even more unfair advantages.
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Speaker 2: Baseball's running a business. Their customers think that the thing
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Speaker 2: is rigged. They think it's unfair. You got to have
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Speaker 2: a salary cap. And I think the biggest proof of
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Speaker 2: why this is unfair is because the baseball is letting
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers get away with it. They want them to
17:52
Speaker 2: win again so that it helps their argument come collective
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Speaker 2: bargaining agreement time for a salary cap. So they can
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Speaker 2: get fans on board. They are advertising for this, They're
18:04
Speaker 2: advertising to baseball fans to jump on board their side
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Speaker 2: of the argument because they want them to win. They
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Speaker 2: want them as an example of nobody else can compete
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Speaker 2: like this. So we're gonna let them run amok with
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Speaker 2: the rules and everything else. We're not gonna restrict what
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Speaker 2: they do because we want it to look like it's
18:25
Speaker 2: an unfair advantage that they have, so that we can
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Speaker 2: get a salary cap finally in place, which we should
18:31
Speaker 2: have a salary cap in place. The National Football League
18:34
Speaker 2: has one, the NHL has one, the NBA has one.
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Speaker 2: Why do they have one? Because it is better for
18:39
Speaker 2: the sport. It is better for promoting the sport than
18:43
Speaker 2: it is for an entire fan base, an entire potential
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Speaker 2: consumer group, ninety percent of them to think that baseball
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Speaker 2: is unfair? How can you operate a business that way?
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Speaker 2: And so that's why we're going to get a salary cap.
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Speaker 2: And yes, you can blame the dogs, and you can
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Speaker 2: blame baseball for letting the Dodgers be the Dodgers, even
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Speaker 2: though I don't blame the Dodgers for taking advantage and
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Speaker 2: trying to win championships while they can, but their actions
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Speaker 2: are the example that Baseball's going to use to rid
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Speaker 2: us of things like this going forward. So this said
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Speaker 2: the last time I'm going to talk about it. But man,
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Speaker 2: I've heard some commentary lately that just got me worked
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Speaker 2: up and I felt like I had to address it
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Speaker 2: here again today. All right, coming up next, talk of
19:28
Speaker 2: camp Here at Seahawks training camp. After watching Hard Knocks
19:32
Speaker 2: last night, I think there's one clear choice who the
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Speaker 2: talk of camp is right now, Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 2: point three kja RFM. It is Chuck and Ashley with you,
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Speaker 2: and yes we are at Seahawks training camp and the
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Speaker 2: talk of camp, I mean no doubt today, right Ashley
19:47
Speaker 2: is gonna be Hard Knocks. All the guys seeing themselves
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Speaker 2: on television last night and seeing how they came off
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Speaker 2: and wondering why my joke wasn't used and Brady Russell's
19:57
Speaker 2: I got peed on by a goat joke, So I'm
20:02
Speaker 2: sure it's gotta be right. I mean, you're gonna show
20:04
Speaker 2: up the next day after you've been on international television
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Speaker 2: on a show you've probably watched a couple dozen times
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Speaker 2: in your life, and you finally get featured the It's
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Speaker 2: got to be the buzz in that locker room, doesn't it.
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Speaker 4: It definitely has to be because you know they all
20:19
Speaker 4: watched it. I mean everyone we've talked you said they
20:21
Speaker 4: were gonna watch it. There's no way they weren't at
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Speaker 4: home on the couch with their popcorn ready to go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we'll get into some of the who came
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Speaker 2: off well. And I don't know if anybody didn't come
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Speaker 2: off well. I don't think no.
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Speaker 4: I mean because even the little fight situation there between
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Speaker 4: Witherspoon and Russell, I mean even that came off just.
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Speaker 2: Fine at the end.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that d and then d Hall had to
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Speaker 4: give a lot of hugs too.
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Speaker 2: De Hall gave a few hugs out there. But it
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Speaker 2: was interesting. They said, Brady, go give d Hall a
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Speaker 2: hug afterwards, and he gave one to Jason.
20:53
Speaker 3: That's the one they showed on.
20:54
Speaker 4: Oh yes, sorry, I kept saying Witherston.
20:56
Speaker 3: It was.
20:56
Speaker 2: It was Derek Hall. That's right, Yes, he did.
20:58
Speaker 4: I know that was weird.
20:59
Speaker 2: Yes, But the talk of camp, I mean yeah, it's
21:04
Speaker 2: it's one of our major topics every spring training, every
21:07
Speaker 2: training camp, we try to relay to you who's creating
21:11
Speaker 2: the buzz. That's the fun of training camp and usually uh,
21:16
Speaker 2: and sometimes it could be somebody completely off the radar.
21:19
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember one spring training it was Tony Zick.
21:22
Speaker 2: For goodness sake, if you remember the relief pitcher Tony Zick,
21:26
Speaker 2: he was the buzz of camp.
21:28
Speaker 3: Uh.
21:28
Speaker 2: You know that's quite a while ago. That was one
21:31
Speaker 2: of the losing long time ago. Yeah. And here we've
21:34
Speaker 2: heard Riley Mills, and we've.
21:38
Speaker 3: Heard a couple of others.
21:40
Speaker 2: But I think maybe we saw last night who the
21:44
Speaker 2: true talk of camp is, at least the way Hard
21:48
Speaker 2: Knocks covered it. And that's gotta be and correct me
21:51
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, And actually maybe you read it differently.
21:53
Speaker 2: It's got to be Jadarian Price. I mean, in terms
21:57
Speaker 2: of where they're capturing players behind his back, talking about
22:05
Speaker 2: him and how impressed they are by him. That's talk
22:08
Speaker 2: of camp buzz right there. That's the essence of it.
22:12
Speaker 2: Where we're trying to figure out, either through ourselves at
22:15
Speaker 2: spring training or through the Greg Bells and others of
22:18
Speaker 2: the world that cover the Seahawks. Intimately, we're trying to
22:23
Speaker 2: find out what they're hearing, like, who's the person that's
22:26
Speaker 2: dominating the conversation when that person isn't in the room,
22:30
Speaker 2: and so Hard Knocks gave us a look at that,
22:33
Speaker 2: and maybe they just isolated one player. I don't know,
22:35
Speaker 2: maybe they just found that an interesting storyline. But that's
22:38
Speaker 2: the type of stuff that we're talking about when we're
22:40
Speaker 2: saying who's generating buzz at camp? It's when a group
22:44
Speaker 2: of defensive linemen are hanging out and they can't stop
22:48
Speaker 2: talking about a player that they're just getting to know.
22:52
Speaker 2: And there were like six different clips. Maybe that's an exaggeration,
22:55
Speaker 2: four different clips of different groups of people, players, coaches
23:01
Speaker 2: that we're talking about how impressed they are with Jedarian Price,
23:05
Speaker 2: the rookie running back out of Notre Dame. So based
23:08
Speaker 2: off of what I saw from Hard Knock, I think
23:10
Speaker 2: that's your runaway winner right now.
23:12
Speaker 4: At camp, I could definitely see that, because, Yeah, they
23:15
Speaker 4: were making him look really good on their clips as well.
23:17
Speaker 4: I mean, he looks super fast, and I think in
23:21
Speaker 4: general they were making the offense look great. I was like, man,
23:23
Speaker 4: we are just an offensive juggernaut according to Hard Knocks
23:26
Speaker 4: right now. Yeah, and the slow motion of Sam Darnold,
23:29
Speaker 4: I was like, are they trying to make him like
23:30
Speaker 4: a heart drop now just he's all in slow mow
23:33
Speaker 4: everywhere he's going. But no, I could definitely see that,
23:36
Speaker 4: And I think part of it being, you know, the unknown,
23:38
Speaker 4: especially for Jenarian Price, because they didn't get to see
23:41
Speaker 4: him a lot in college, right, and so to have
23:43
Speaker 4: him come out and be like, oh no, this guy
23:45
Speaker 4: really can deliver even though he was a backup in college.
23:48
Speaker 4: I think he's surprising a lot of people.
23:50
Speaker 2: Well usually, I mean it is the new face, the
23:52
Speaker 2: fresh face that creates that buzz because people are just
23:54
Speaker 2: getting to see him and evaluate him. And he already
23:58
Speaker 2: came in with some high as a first round draft pick.
24:01
Speaker 2: Certainly yea. But the camp started with and I think
24:05
Speaker 2: fairly so, Hugh Millen pointing out his skinny legs. And
24:08
Speaker 2: they look skinny on camera last night. They really did.
24:11
Speaker 2: Is not just up close and personal, and if you
24:13
Speaker 2: were wondering, I wonder if they looked at skinny in
24:15
Speaker 2: person skinnier They actually look really thin for a running
24:19
Speaker 2: back in the National Football League. But certainly they showed
24:23
Speaker 2: some interesting clips. We've already heard earlier this week from
24:26
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson and others about how the big difference between
24:32
Speaker 2: Brian Fleury's offense is how many different pass patterns that
24:37
Speaker 2: they have for running backs to get them the ball
24:40
Speaker 2: in the passing game. Stark difference from Green Bay stark
24:44
Speaker 2: difference from what we had last year here in Seattle.
24:47
Speaker 2: And so you saw Jadarian Price catching a lot of
24:49
Speaker 2: passes in clips last night on Hard Knocks. And then man,
24:53
Speaker 2: when you get pro bowlers like Byron Murphy and Leonard
24:57
Speaker 2: Williams standing around shaking their head and talking about, man,
25:00
Speaker 2: that guy's got some moves, he's got great feat I
25:03
Speaker 2: think was the was the line that was uttered by Murphy. Yeah,
25:07
Speaker 2: I think Jadarian Price. I think we found out last
25:10
Speaker 2: night that, Yeah, others aren't creating buzzy. That's impossible. You
25:13
Speaker 2: got a lot of them. You got forty five guys
25:17
Speaker 2: creating buzz here. But maybe Jadarian Price, based off what
25:21
Speaker 2: I saw from Hard Knocks last night, is the guy
25:23
Speaker 2: creating most of that tantalizing buzz. Yes.
25:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, as you're saying, like within the team, within the
25:28
Speaker 4: people that are kind of whispering behind his back, because
25:31
Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, as far as the show goes
25:32
Speaker 4: and who they're kind of focusing on, Derek Hall seemed
25:35
Speaker 4: to be like their most keyed upon person. I thought
25:39
Speaker 4: from even the beginning of the entrance through the whole episode.
25:42
Speaker 4: I mean, he was just kind of weaved through everything.
25:45
Speaker 4: And that could just be week one. It'll be interesting
25:47
Speaker 4: to see how episode two, you know, shows out, and
25:50
Speaker 4: if it's more focused on Jandarian Price or or who
25:53
Speaker 4: steps up or who's you know, impressing. But for as
25:56
Speaker 4: far as that first episode goes, yeah, I would definitely
25:58
Speaker 4: say that the Jadari Price buzz was very evident.
26:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a difference between who HBO
26:05
Speaker 2: focuses on because we find them interesting or entertaining. I'm
26:08
Speaker 2: talking about like actual camp buzz and the highlighted features,
26:13
Speaker 2: highlighted moments that they showed of people when no one
26:17
Speaker 2: else was round, when Jedarian Price wasn't around that We're
26:20
Speaker 2: talking about Jadarian Price's game. That is camp buzz right there,
26:24
Speaker 2: and he seemed to dominate it on that episode last night.
26:27
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about Hard Knocks coming up at eight o'clock.
26:31
Speaker 2: Coming up next though, Bo Stevens is going to join us,
26:34
Speaker 2: one of the rookies having his first Seahawks camp. We'll
26:37
Speaker 2: see how it's going for him. Right here at our
26:39
Speaker 2: set at Seahawks training camp. Sports Radio ninety three point
26:42
Speaker 2: three KJRFM Seahawks Rookies. Former Iowa offensive lineman Bo Stevens
26:48
Speaker 2: is with us on the show. How are you man?
26:50
Speaker 3: Good to meet you. Pretty good, good to meet you
26:51
Speaker 3: as well.
26:52
Speaker 2: All right, great to have you on the program. We
26:54
Speaker 2: appreciate it. What's it like being a professional football player
26:58
Speaker 2: and not wearing black can yellow.
27:00
Speaker 3: Every day of your life? You know, it's pretty awesome.
27:03
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna say Gohawks.
27:05
Speaker 2: But it's true. You don't even have to change your terminology.
27:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awesome. But you know, it's nice having
27:15
Speaker 3: football all the time without any school in the way,
27:18
Speaker 3: so you can actually focus on that twenty four to sevens.
27:20
Speaker 2: So there still are some guys going to school every day.
27:25
Speaker 3: They may just do it online, but.
27:29
Speaker 2: Well, you're being taken to school though. I mean at
27:31
Speaker 2: the professional level, this is an education. Compare it to
27:36
Speaker 2: like being at the college level and the crash course
27:39
Speaker 2: of learning that you're doing out on this practice field
27:43
Speaker 2: in the last month or so.
27:44
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, in college, I feel like it's more of
27:49
Speaker 3: try and keep it as simple as possible, just so
27:51
Speaker 3: that you don't have to really think during any game, like, hey,
27:54
Speaker 3: we're going against this opponent, We're going to run these
27:56
Speaker 3: plays and just step left or right, and this is
28:01
Speaker 3: a basic scheme of what you're gonna be doing all week.
28:04
Speaker 3: But no, it's like you really got to know the
28:05
Speaker 3: opponent across from you. You got to know their moves,
28:07
Speaker 3: You got to know which personnel they're in, Like I
28:11
Speaker 3: never worried about that in college, or their nickel defense. Yeah,
28:14
Speaker 3: so what, I'm still blocking the same two guys usually,
28:18
Speaker 3: But no, you got to know the structure of the defense.
28:20
Speaker 3: And it's way more in depth than I really thought.
28:22
Speaker 3: It was like whenever you go through the draft the interviews,
28:27
Speaker 3: they're asking you all these questions just to see what
28:29
Speaker 3: you know. And obviously I didn't know much because the
28:32
Speaker 3: amount of stuff that I've learned now it's quite insane.
28:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it sounds like you can handle it though.
28:38
Speaker 2: And then also, I mean talk about grown up things
28:41
Speaker 2: like you got married as well in the offseason. Another
28:44
Speaker 2: thing like in college you probably had your head on
28:46
Speaker 2: a swivel, you know, looking at every girl that came
28:48
Speaker 2: through the bar door. And now you don't have to
28:50
Speaker 2: worry about that stuff. Anymore. You found your girl, you
28:52
Speaker 2: found your team, You're locked in.
28:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's awesome. I found a really good woman.
28:58
Speaker 3: But it's it's weird because it's like, yeah, I'm married,
29:00
Speaker 3: but then I'm the rookie at this team, so it's like, yeah,
29:04
Speaker 3: like I'm getting treated like a little kid here and there,
29:06
Speaker 3: and it's just weird. It's like, yeah, I'm married, but
29:10
Speaker 3: I'm like the lowest of the low right now. When
29:12
Speaker 3: it comes to the offensive line room.
29:13
Speaker 2: Where you used to leadership role the last few years,
29:16
Speaker 2: I would assume that you were.
29:18
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's really weird because it's like every time
29:21
Speaker 3: you go to another level, you always start back at
29:23
Speaker 3: square one, and like being in college, you really grow
29:27
Speaker 3: up throughout that process, and so it's like now an
29:31
Speaker 3: even bigger level and it's not like just the transition
29:34
Speaker 3: from high school of college, just like it's even more so.
29:39
Speaker 3: I definitely get a lot of crap o.
29:41
Speaker 2: Guy, So, if you're the sponge who's providing you the
29:44
Speaker 2: most moisture, the most water to absorb, what is it
29:48
Speaker 2: a teammate? Is it a coach who's the person giving
29:51
Speaker 2: you the greatest lessons that you seem to be.
29:54
Speaker 3: Gravitating towards the teammates. It's more of like how to
29:57
Speaker 3: interact with everyone. Coach Shab is the one that I
30:01
Speaker 3: really learned more about the football and the technique and
30:05
Speaker 3: what he's kind of looking forward for his offensive line
30:07
Speaker 3: and how close I can be to that. And then
30:10
Speaker 3: it's like the guys, like, while I'm in this process,
30:13
Speaker 3: they're really there just trying to root me on. Yeah,
30:15
Speaker 3: they give me crap, but they're they're there in my
30:18
Speaker 3: back corner saying like, just stick with it, like we
30:22
Speaker 3: see you trying, we see you working on certain things,
30:25
Speaker 3: but just like you're not going to get there right away.
30:27
Speaker 3: And that's that's honestly what I want to do. It's
30:29
Speaker 3: just they got to pull me back down to earth
30:33
Speaker 3: and be like, hey, you're not going to get a
30:35
Speaker 3: day one.
30:35
Speaker 2: So when you put the pads on, did you get
30:38
Speaker 2: your first taste of the speed or do you feel
30:41
Speaker 2: like that's still coming that moment, because every rookie talks
30:44
Speaker 2: about how they have to get adjusted to how fast
30:47
Speaker 2: the game is at the very next level, did you
30:49
Speaker 2: get a little taste of that when you put the
30:50
Speaker 2: pads on for the first.
30:51
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was when we put the pads on.
30:53
Speaker 3: It was when we started running on offense during ota. Okay,
30:57
Speaker 3: it's not people talk about the speed physical. I don't
31:01
Speaker 3: see it so like I've seen people run fast. I've
31:03
Speaker 3: seen people move quickly. It's more about when you get
31:07
Speaker 3: out of the huddle, get on the line, all the
31:08
Speaker 3: stuff you got to think about before. It's the metal game.
31:11
Speaker 3: It's it's it's okay, what defense is.
31:14
Speaker 2: More so than the defensive tackle in front of me
31:16
Speaker 2: is faster than anybody I've gone against.
31:18
Speaker 3: It.
31:18
Speaker 2: It's how fast I have to think on my feet.
31:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. Wow, Because you like during the play
31:27
Speaker 3: you can kind of just roll with it and try
31:29
Speaker 3: and nail it as good as you can. But you
31:31
Speaker 3: got to have a plan beforehand. You got to take
31:32
Speaker 3: away all your red flags. And I was really good
31:36
Speaker 3: at I felt like I was really good at that
31:37
Speaker 3: in college at Iowa. But it's a whole different world.
31:40
Speaker 3: Like you gotta like center's got to look coverage Like
31:43
Speaker 3: we never had that at college. It was just what
31:47
Speaker 3: front of the end, what linebacker? Was the center working too?
31:49
Speaker 3: And then let's roll with it. Now it's like, okay,
31:52
Speaker 3: the we have safety rotation here, and so we're going
31:55
Speaker 3: to pull our protection or pull o our declaration back
31:59
Speaker 3: up point or forward a point. Is you got to
32:02
Speaker 3: do that in a split second. Wow, that's that's the
32:04
Speaker 3: big speed of the game.
32:05
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you are doing it well? Do
32:08
Speaker 2: you feel like you're making the impression that you want
32:11
Speaker 2: to make or are you your own worst critic?
32:14
Speaker 3: I would say I'm my own worst critic. I'm not
32:17
Speaker 3: the center making the calls. So it's like I just
32:19
Speaker 3: got to listen to one guy. It's it's in those
32:22
Speaker 3: times whenever I have to make a declaration myself or
32:25
Speaker 3: not like where the whole line's working to but I
32:28
Speaker 3: got to see something as well as some maybe somebody
32:30
Speaker 3: else hasn't. And that's where the experience drop is at
32:33
Speaker 3: right now. It's just getting more reps to be able
32:36
Speaker 3: to see that clear and speaking up whenever time comes
32:41
Speaker 3: and overwriting maybe the center's call or the tackles call
32:44
Speaker 3: and being like no, I see this, And that just
32:47
Speaker 3: comes with reps, honestly.
32:48
Speaker 2: So both Stevens is with us, one of the rookies
32:51
Speaker 2: for the Seahawks here at training camp, joining us here
32:54
Speaker 2: at our set at the Seahawks training camp. All right,
32:56
Speaker 2: So I got to ask you, did you and the
32:59
Speaker 2: wife sit down and hard knocks together last night?
33:02
Speaker 3: No, so she's not actually here in Seattle right now,
33:04
Speaker 3: but uh, okay, did you watch I fast forwarded through it,
33:09
Speaker 3: like kind of skimmed it just see if your parts
33:11
Speaker 3: came up? Pretty much? I was like, when's the old
33:14
Speaker 3: linees gonna show up in there?
33:16
Speaker 2: You did get mentioned? It was because you got.
33:18
Speaker 3: Married, yeah, which I guess i'd skipped through uh that
33:23
Speaker 3: last night. And so my wife was like, yeah, well
33:25
Speaker 3: you were mentioning like the first man or two. I
33:27
Speaker 3: was like, really, I didn't see that, so I had
33:29
Speaker 3: to go back and yeah, and I was like, oh, yeah,
33:31
Speaker 3: that's right. When he asked the questions if I'm married,
33:33
Speaker 3: and I completely didn't hear him and kind of repeat himself,
33:35
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, well I did
33:38
Speaker 3: get married.
33:39
Speaker 2: Yeah did you get a You didn't respond quickly enough
33:42
Speaker 2: to that pretty much?
33:43
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the other guys were laughing. So I
33:47
Speaker 3: was like, oh, crap, I didn't hear him.
33:50
Speaker 2: Uh is it creating buzz though? I mean, here you are,
33:52
Speaker 2: I mean you've already done something here. I don't know
33:54
Speaker 2: if you've lifted or what you've done. But is it
33:56
Speaker 2: what everybody's talking about in there, because been talking about
34:00
Speaker 2: on the show today.
34:02
Speaker 3: Uh, you know it just came out last night. Yeah,
34:05
Speaker 3: so I just got in here this morning, and so okay,
34:08
Speaker 3: I haven't heard enough buzz about it, but I'm sure
34:10
Speaker 3: some guys have seen it. I'm sure some guys don't
34:12
Speaker 3: even want to pay attention that right now because they
34:14
Speaker 3: got other things to worry about. They got training camp.
34:16
Speaker 2: Where do you fall in this?
34:17
Speaker 3: Do you want? I wanted to skip one of the
34:20
Speaker 3: boy I wanted to skip through it and see if
34:22
Speaker 3: there was any like spots that maybe the old line
34:24
Speaker 3: was in it. But other than that, it's like, no,
34:26
Speaker 3: I gotta worry about the plays. I gotta worry about
34:28
Speaker 3: showing up the next day and having a better practice
34:31
Speaker 3: than I had the day before.
34:32
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I've heard football players never do, I
34:36
Speaker 2: mean my career ended in high school, never do end
34:39
Speaker 2: up liking training camp at any point in their lives.
34:42
Speaker 2: But are you enjoying it? Are you having fun? Are
34:45
Speaker 2: you enjoying the process.
34:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm enjoying challenging myself to another level, you know,
34:51
Speaker 3: like going through college first year training training camp it's
34:55
Speaker 3: a whole new thing, and that's kind of the spot
34:57
Speaker 3: I am now in the NFL, but it's that next
35:03
Speaker 3: level that I can see in my potential, you know.
35:06
Speaker 3: And I'm just kind of opening up that book a
35:08
Speaker 3: little bit and it's exciting, you know. And you also
35:12
Speaker 3: got to think about this. It's like, there's no better
35:14
Speaker 3: job in the world. Seriously. I get to worry about
35:17
Speaker 3: this twenty four to seven. And some people might say
35:19
Speaker 3: it's long days during training camp, but you get to
35:23
Speaker 3: do what you want to do. You're playing a child's
35:25
Speaker 3: game for king's ransom, is what they say. Yeah, yeah,
35:30
Speaker 3: I know it's fun. I don't have to worry about
35:33
Speaker 3: the dogs that I got. I don't have to worry
35:35
Speaker 3: about bills. I don't I don't got to worry about
35:37
Speaker 3: any of that. It's strictly football twenty four to seven
35:39
Speaker 3: for six five, six weeks or whatever it is.
35:43
Speaker 2: So I say that a lot about this job.
35:45
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the best job in the world. Yeah,
35:48
Speaker 3: I'm lying.
35:52
Speaker 2: Well, man, Hey, great to meet you, have a great camp.
35:56
Speaker 2: Good luck on your rookie season. Hopefully we get to
35:58
Speaker 2: good chat with you again real soon and go Hawks.
36:01
Speaker 2: All right, man, great to meet you. FO Stevens joining
36:04
Speaker 2: us here at our set. We'll talk some more hard
36:06
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