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#181 - Jensen Buck - Songwriter/Musician · The Chris and Mike Show

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Oh, did that take that took that fucking thing.
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Oh, I got to do it again. That didn't work.
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Rock'n'roll, fellas. Rock and.
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Roll face, I'm going to kill you.
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Oh. Where are you now?
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It's like a spinal chat moment in a podcast.
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I love it. Right.
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There you go. So boys and girls, welcome to
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the Chris and Mike show. He's Mike.
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I'm Chris. This is Jensen Buck and a
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Welcome, Jensen. Thanks for coming on, brother.
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This time you guys. I'm just going to dive right
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into your website because I think it's when I scrolled to
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it, I was like, I was like, that's brilliant right there.
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This like right there. Let's get bucked up, man.
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Bucked up. You got to have you got to have
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shirts. I love that.
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Say you want to get bucked. Brilliant.
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Yeah. You want to get them bucked?
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Yeah, Yeah, you got cool. We've got them to say I've been
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bucked. OK, cool.
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Right on, I like. Right on if you.
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If you send Mike and I. You need that one.
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Too on the show. Yeah, yeah.
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You got it. Yeah, you got it.
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Absolutely. That's.
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Awesome. Right on, man.
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So Jensen, Buck, give us a little bit just the kind of an
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elevator spiel, who you are so we can start plugging the hell
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out of all the things that you do.
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No. What's that?
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No pressure. Give us a little elevator speech
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of who you are, what you're all about, so we can start plugging
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and having a conversation with you.
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Oh. Man, so let's see Wyoming,
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Idaho. And I've been playing music all
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my life and then kind of just spent a lot of quit music for a
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while when I started having kids and became an underwater welder
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and a marine biologist and travelled the world and then
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decided I was going to come back to music probably about 14-12
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years, 1213 years ago. And been doing it ever since.
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Since then, it would just been a climb.
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OK, rewind to the short version of or however long you want to
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talk about being a marine biologist and an underwater
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welder and touring the. World, I can, I please, I can
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sit and I can sit and talk about that all day long.
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You know what I mean? Like, so we want to promote your
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music, man. But I got to hear about this
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just a little bit for sure. What do you want to know?
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How did you how did that? Happen.
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You were a You were a musician. How did you go from a musician
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to an underwater welder? Marine Biologist.
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That's quite a transition. So I was playing in a band and I
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and I just cover band and then I started Jensen Buck.
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I went out on my own and do my own thing.
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And the guys, I was working a construction job and I was a
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crew chief and worked with other people and I was learning to be
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a welder. And then dude, I kind of topped
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out and it was just just a grind, you know, and I went to,
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I went to the bathroom and was reading welder's journal and I
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saw this thing about become an underwater welder.
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And I, I started having kids and I was like, man, I need to make
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some real. Like I was really, it was about
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money and like the future of my children.
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I was at a crossroads and I had dropped out of school to work.
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And so I ended up getting my GED.
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So like I was just trying to figure life out and I saw that.
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And so I went to apply and I got in and I went to California and
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it just started snowballing from there.
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Every course they had. Like so when I left music and
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all the life I knew I just said, OK, So I immersed myself into
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diving. So I became an Med tech.
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I became a certified underwater welder.
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And there's only like probably 5000 of us that are like really
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certified in the in the world. And I'm one of them.
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Wow. And then it's an outdated trade,
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though. Like there's so many smart
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flanges up, but it's rad to like, have that title, but you
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know what I mean? Like, there's so many safer ways
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of getting stuff done now and then.
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Yeah, like. Drop like drop like dropping a
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robot into the water. And it just goes, no robot,
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robot can't do what we do. But but yes, there's, there's
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smart flanges and like you can cut things and bring them
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together much more effectively than like put it to putting it
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together underwater or wrapping a habitat around it.
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And then you go into it like a like a submarine.
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And then you drain all the water out.
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And then you're in there working and you just have to leave your
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hat on because you got your own O2.
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So you don't get any of the gases.
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But it's extremely dangerous. And you made, so you made some,
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some nice little guacamole doing that, right?
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We did, we did all right, life was OK for for some time and it
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was hit and miss. It was seasonal job too, though.
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So like getting out a crew that was working.
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And so my goal was to get into SAT when I did it.
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So that's like the big boy dive. That's, that's 1000 feet or
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more, anywhere from like 600 to, you know, 1000 feet or more and
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you're, and you're stored there for a month.
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And so I was able, I at the end of my career, I was able to get
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in and do some of it. I did some ride outs with them
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from guys that got hurt. And so I'd spend like 4 days in
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the chamber with them and ride them out, make sure they're OK
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because I was Med tech. And so I just, it was awesome.
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I mean, it was right where I was at.
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But then the BP spill happened and that the next like 3 years
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was kind of like the writing was on the wall for me that I'd like
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that was, it was getting harder and harder and more political to
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dive to work. And so I started working abroad
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and it was just, I love that. And I, I wish I would have been
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able to keep going, but like life just kind of happened.
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And then when it did, I, I came inland, did some inland diving
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for a while and that just sucked.
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And then at the time I would, I had a radio show called Red Rock
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Jams and I was down in St. George, UT Yeah, we had a, we
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had a house in New Orleans, Utah and Idaho.
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And so I was in the at the Saint George house and my my show was
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all about music and I'd paired guys together that were like a
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Blues player and a metal player and I'd make him play together.
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And then we'd explain that's awesome audience why it made
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sense. And, and then we'd interview the
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guys individually and it was just kind of a cool, fun thing
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for me to do and give back. And then it just kind of I did
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AI did a breast cancer benefit because of that show.
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And then that that that was it. That was kind of I I dove for
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like another year, but I start taking gigs and like building
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Jensen Buck back up and yeah, here we are.
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What's? What's the craziest place you
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ever dove? Man, South America was pretty
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rad. We dove in the Amazon.
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Wow. I dove in the red.
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I dove in the Red Sea. We're in the coast of Africa,
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down in the southern tip of Africa.
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We dove in China but the Red Sea was probably the craziest just
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because it's third world. It's it's first world buildings
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with third wheel world ideology. Like they still weird do use
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whale oil for lamps over there. No shit.
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Wow. Oh yeah, it's crazy.
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And so we were actually, I was actually witnessed A harpooning.
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Like it was crazy. Like that whale hung out by our
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platform forever. And then they finally just said,
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fuck it, I'm coming in. And like, or I mean, they were
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like little shanties with outboard motors on there.
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And they came in and they harpooned it.
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And then like this giant boat that like was actually a
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commercial boat that like you would see in Alaska, like
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anywhere and loaded down a tailgate and they brought that
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sucker up. And you just watch these guys
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hack at it. And like, for me as a marine
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biologist, it broke my heart. For me as a hunter and from
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Wyoming and Idaho, I get like, it's just, that's what they do,
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you know what I mean? Like, and I'm so I, I didn't
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really have much to say, but we were them getting to the whale
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was hard for them because we were throwing shackles and like
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makeshift Spears and all sorts of stuff at these guys.
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Wow. It was crazy.
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Yeah, it was. That was that was a crazy time
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because I ended up leaving. I did.
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I extended my hitch. I was supposed to be there for
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four months. I end up staying for seven and I
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was planning on being there for 9 straight just for, you know,
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take the tax breaks and all the other stuff.
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I got heat stroke. It was 130° on the deck.
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Oh yeah, Oh my. God and I, I and I work the
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night shifts. So we were, I, I passed out at
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night when we were doing groceries one time and that was
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the big I got heat stroke like 3 more times and I broke, I
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cracked my neck about 5 months in so I couldn't feel my hands.
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And so like once, once I couldn't feel my hands anymore,
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they said it was time to go. And like, I came back and it was
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a broken vertebrate and they're in.
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Ouch. Yeah, wow, man, that's crazy.
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So you would literally have been.
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All over the world. That's like a total life resume
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in like in like 12 minutes, man. You could just you can be done
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now. You can go, you know, you're
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fucking that's amazing. Just absolutely amazing man.
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Yeah, he's diving in the Red Sea, hanging out in China,
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cruising down to the Amazon. You, you literally did your
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world tour, just in a different way.
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Oh totally, and that's. So that's what actually kind of
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started me thinking about playing abroad.
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I I was playing a bar in guitar and this like rich chic.
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I don't know what it was. Anyways, we went and partied at
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this huge castle mansion thing. I don't know, it was just giant
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and like bunch of divers and me and freaking a bunch of girls
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and we just partied our asses off with this guy that but I I
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played this, I played guitar at this karaoke bar and he's like,
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I love it. You got playing with us.
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And I'm like, OK, like, you know, that's what that alcoholic
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plays. He's like, don't worry about it.
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I was like, OK, it was fun. That's.
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Awesome. You come play guitar for me.
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You come to my house and play for me.
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I got money, I got money, I got booze.
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You come putting women. Anything about putting all the
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women I should have made? Playing but I just want to party
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with a bunch of people in the Middle East when you're not
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because the only place you can do that is to buy and then you
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got to everywhere else is illegal you chop your hands off
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or kill you so it's. Nothing.
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That's kind of a bummer. I know, right?
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For sure. So there's that.
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So now let's talk about So how long have you been back in
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music? Been about 1313 or so years.
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So I so I about 20, 2020 Oh man 20/13/2015 is at the at the area
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where I I dove, but I was playing gigs.
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I started playing like doing cafes, doing small stuff, just
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playing solo and we end up getting a festival.
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I got a group together and like just, you know, put it, put the
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whole, I pretty much just put the band back in line that
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playing the music that I played before I became a diver and it's
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just like it stopped and then I I unfroze it.
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So then I what is this? This is why.
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I went on your events man, but it's it's from 2024, so I'm.
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Assuming yeah, no. So I've been I've been out for a
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little while. I.
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OK. OK, I've been playing
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foundation. I came out here to Nashville, so
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24. We played few few shows solo.
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When I came to Nashville. I got Nashville about 20-3 and
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then we started working on getting back to the big stuff
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and so we went to Puerto Rico, played it, played it.
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My buddy Caddy Caddy's Calypso out there in Puerto Rico and
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Rincon, He was, what's his name, Kenny Chesney's manager and did
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some Zac Brown stuff. Good dude.
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Rad had me come out and like put me in the wife up for the week
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for our anniversary. It's super red.
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It was red and. But yeah, came back to music and
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I moved up to Idaho and I just made the decision that we're
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going to start doing it right. I got a new, new lineup and then
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I wrote a or my my neighbor came over to me and he's like,
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there's a songwriting competition.
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And I'm like, you know, yeah, you know, I'm not into the
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American Idol. So like in 2020, So in 2014 that
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one of my friends out there in Utah is like, hey, you want to
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get on America's Got Talent? And I was like, yeah, I mean,
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maybe. And then I started looking at
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the whole thing and like, it's just so all these things are
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are, are are worked out ahead of time.
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Like, you know, they already know who's going to be in the
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end of the episode, you know what I mean?
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Like a. 100%. So it's like I was pretty much
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like buffered through and I would, I would, I would have a
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chance to get through to the finals, but like they would I, I
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was guaranteed halfway through and I was like, this is silly.
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But when he came to me with the thumb riding thing, I was like,
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you know what, man, that's I'm into that because that's my
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crap, you know what I mean? Like, and so we did that 2016 we
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won and then we did it 2017 we won again.
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And that opened the door to just everything, man.
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Like, yeah, the Knitting Factory called me.
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House of Blues would call me, you know, the Idol Center called
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me. The radio stations call and just
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push and push and push. And it was just rad.
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And like, I got to play with all of my idols. 20, I think 2018,
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it was just there was the end of July to September was just
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fucking nuts. It was sober.
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It was sober I got to play with. So it's like my first call was
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Cadillac three. No Lydia Lovelace and I busted
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this down to some the Neurolux out there in Idaho, which is
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like a subsidiary of the Knitting Factory kind of thing.
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And then it just dude, it just starts snowballing that it was
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red Cadillac three. They they were they're probably
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like, other than like Neil McCoy were one of the only guys I
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played with that were like, dude, thanks for coming out and
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you're fucking rat. You know what I mean?
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Like so cool. That's awesome.
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Handshake. Drink beer together.
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Yeah, yeah, that's very cool. Yeah, man.
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So how'd you get hooked up with Bruce and Velochita?
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Dave Nudo Yeah, I was just. Going to ask you if you knew
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Dave Nudo when you knew that you were from Idaho?
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Dave went they're re recording the Lord and the devil because
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we told him to. Just I, I heard that on your
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podcast, so County line, I we loved Dave, one of the producers
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on County Line. Oh no shit.
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Yeah, I know he came in. So he came in the song.
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My buddy Greg, Greg Goodell had a studio.
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We were part of it at the time. He he was just kind of helping
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me out because I was figuring out my life at that point.
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That's right. When I got to Idaho and you came
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in and I'm on, me and Greg are on the album.
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Like some of those songs we hear everybody Hooper and holler in
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and like. Yeah.
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Now that you, my boy, go back and listen that album.
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You okay? Cool.
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That's cool, Dave. Daves good.
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Daves good people, man. Yeah, you went back on the show.
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Like when he was doing that, that's when I was in my height.
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And so he would always ask me questions and like, how do I do
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this? And like, yeah, I mean, without
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giving away all the recipe, you know, for you, sure.
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But him, I was just like, dude, I love you, man.
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But if you look at pictures of me at that point and him at that
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point, and then him now and me now, he's like his, he crawled
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on stage one time. He's like, I'm the real Jensen
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Buck. I'm just so fucking mad.
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And then he gets. On my foot I love.
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My foot again, I was so no. And then I showed up to one of
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his gigs and did the same thing and it freaking made it.
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It didn't go over like it went over for him, 'cause I'm just
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waiting. I was, Oh yeah, I was not a hand
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knight, so I love that. Guy we do too.
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When we get him on, we should tell him.
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We should not tell him and just have you come in like 5 minutes
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into the show. Do it.
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Absolutely. That would be an awesome.
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That's No 100. Percent.
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I didn't. I didn't.
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I didn't know the ties was there, but now that's cool.
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Man, that's very cool. He's out there in Cambridge,
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Idaho. He's in Boise now and him like
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we're really intertwined, like we've been friends for about
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since about 2817 and right on him and I, you know, I, I went
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through some real hard times and like had a had a cancer scare,
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broke my foot, had a lot of stuff go on and health wise,
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mentally, I was just nodded. I was partying freaking crazy
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during 2020. He was on my radio.
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He was on, I did a, you know, the house party radio show
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casting for and he was, he was a guest and like he'd come party.
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With us and. Right on.
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Yeah, he's been he's been a really good friend and like he's
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called me and some of my darkest times when like I didn't think I
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would ever hear from anybody. I just get a random how you
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doing? And that's that's what I love
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about that guy. He's just really kind of above
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the he's. Genuine.
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He's genuine, yeah. He's genuine.
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Human. Yeah, 'cause I 'cause I'll, I
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have a shit roll up on playlists in my truck when I drive around
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doing my thing and, and something will come up and I'll
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just screenshot it and send him, send him a picture and he just
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hearts it. He's like, thanks, man.
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He's just, that's what we, that's why Mike and I liked him
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because it was there, there was no ego.
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It was just Mike and I have been the rock'n'roll lifestyle, been
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there, done that, all kind of jazz.
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So we respect the fact when we can talk to musicians because
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we're musicians at heart that are just, they're just cool.
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They're just, you can have that. You can riff a conversation for
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an hour and it seems like 5 minutes.
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That's the coolest thing. About what?
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You know somebody is genuine when they come on here like you
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did, and you just start talking, right?
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It's like, here's who I am, here's what I do.
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You can like it or not like it, right?
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You can feel that it's it. Like Chris said, the word
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genuine isn't a big enough word, but that's the best one we got
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right now. Yeah, well, it's I, I found
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myself being a little bit too genuine and it definitely bit me
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in the ass. So Dave, I was like, Dave, let's
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put some do this stuff together. And I'm like, he's all I, I
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don't know if these guys will hire you anymore, man.
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I, I would go up and party my ass off and I'd get everybody
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fucked up with the crowd. And like, I just, I was living
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that life, man. That was the last out, you know,
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freaking just and I didn't give a shit.
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I think more than anything what we're saying is we've had
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instances where they're too good, right?
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Oh yeah. You know, that attitude, I think
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more than anything is what he's alluding to.
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You can just feel that I'm doing what I'm doing out here and I'm
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happy to have the opportunity to do it.
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And, you know, we didn't know Dave was that talented.
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We didn't know that you had this huge life, life's resume before
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you came on here. You.
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Know it just. There's certain people that you
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meet, it's like, wow, you know, Lemoyne comes to mind.
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Chris was like, wow, you got some serious hardware behind
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you. You know, the guy's got a
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platinum album hanging behind him, and he's talking to us.
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And then we've had other people say.
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Right. Hey, well, you know, we're not
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going to waste our time. We got other opportunities.
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Right, that are not that are that have never even reached the
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a peak right and and you have Lemoyne Alexander.
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Again, 90s rap. He was associated with
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everything in 90s rap from a producer standpoint.
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Everything. Right, like.
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He had the opportunity to go work with Prince and he just sat
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back after thinking about it. He's like, I can't do that
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because what I think of Prince is here and if I go there,
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what's that going to do to that? I mean, that's right.
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That's the thing. A genuine human, somebody who,
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who, who. It wasn't boasting and and
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gloating. It was.
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No, he admitted. I was not afraid to meet my.
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Eyes, right? That's because.
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He didn't want to ruin that. That's what that man meant.
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In Heroes. Yeah, yeah, I yeah, there was.
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There was something I saw not too long ago.
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Who the fuck was it? Christian?
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It was a Christian Bale. He was talking in his weird
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Scottish accent that he has his natural tongue as some, and he's
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like, you don't want to meet me. And the reporter's like what?
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He's like, you don't want to meet me.
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If, if, if, if I'm somebody that you love and you admire and I'm
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you idolize, you don't want to meet me because I'm not going
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to, I'm not going to hold up to what you think I am.
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Exactly. He's like, just just watch,
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basically just saying just watch the shit and be a fan.
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But if you meet me, I'm going to destroy your, your opinion of me
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because I'm just this punk ass dude that's lucky enough to do
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this for a living. I thought that.
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I thought that was brilliant too, you know, And we all put
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our pants on the same way. I think that that that's what
21:24
separates like the guys that really make it.
21:26
I mean, I'm sure there there's guys out there that are just
21:29
complete douchebags. But like, sure, the humanity of
21:32
it and the like the humbleness that you get from being a part
21:38
of something rad like I like, I love being able to like there's
21:42
nothing better than sitting in front of 10,000 people.
21:45
Thank you and be able to control everybody's emotion.
21:48
But at the same time, to be able to go back to your merge booth
21:51
and you hang out for I, I hung out till it was empty and just
21:56
took everybody's hand and like the amount of people that wrote
21:59
me afterwards and were just like, hey, man, I just want to
22:02
say song 4 of blah, blah blah, sent whatever town.
22:07
I just want you to know that was awesome.
22:09
And or like something like that. It's like, that is so cool.
22:12
You. Know I'm freaking like I'm glad
22:13
I'm the rule in the band for is well there was 2 hydra booze
22:20
hydra women was the first one for early and like we're leaving
22:24
them we're going to leave them better than when we got here and
22:27
that was kind of before we before we got on stage.
22:30
I'd tell the guys, you know, leave it all here, you know,
22:32
just do, do the best you can and just have fun.
22:36
And yeah, that's the more that and like let it go and just
22:40
enjoyed just what we were doing in like, man, there were times
22:44
that like I would I so I'd have like 3 different guitar players,
22:48
three different bass players, 2 drummers, a couple keyboardists,
22:50
you know, and different guys all the way through the time when we
22:52
were touring. So I would mix.
22:54
It was like a basketball coach. I got my B squad, my A squad, my
22:57
C squad, and then it would mix and match.
23:00
But sometimes I'd get these guys together and I would sit back
23:03
and just watch the fucking show that I was like, oh, I'm like,
23:06
oh, I'm supposed to see. Yeah.
23:09
Oh yeah, It was freaking awesome.
23:10
I loved it. So I think it's I think that
23:12
it's if you can have that love for your crafts, it makes the
23:17
experience meeting you and being a part and just all of it more
23:21
real for everyone involved and just a little less orchestrated
23:28
guy like you scripted, you know, I mean, yeah.
23:32
I I think we might have lost Chris, he said.
23:35
He was having connection. Issues.
23:36
He is just just looking handsome right there, frozen.
23:41
I don't want to lose your train of thought, though, that I love
23:44
what you said about just having fun.
23:47
We knew that we needed each other in that band, right?
23:51
I wasn't a singer, Scott wasn't a guitar player.
23:54
Rick wasn't A and while Rick could play guitar and bass, but
23:58
he wasn't a drummer, you know? We knew that we needed that
24:01
persons talent to make what happened on stage happen, right?
24:05
Right. I feel like you just said that,
24:07
just in a different way, right? Have respect for the other
24:10
people. We might make mistakes, but who
24:12
the fuck cares right? Most of the time, the guy that
24:15
taught me to play guitar, he said once is a mistake, twice as
24:18
jazz, right? Just as a funny, but really what
24:21
he what he said Jensen was if you make a mistake, do it again
24:26
with authority because most of the time it's going to be
24:28
something golden. What's up, buddy?
24:32
Hey, welcome back. Welcome back.
24:34
Fucking Internet. Fucking Internet.
24:37
I was worried about my connection.
24:38
No, I dude, I have Cox and I have Starlink and I can't tell
24:43
you that. Just the bullshit that I deal
24:45
with with this sometimes it's just mind boggling.
24:47
I'm sorry, the three, three-year old in me just wants to giggle
24:50
when you said you got Cox. I know, I know, right?
24:54
You know dude, true story. When I used to write them
24:57
checks, because you had to write checks back in the day, I would
24:59
spell it with COCKS and they would cash every one of them.
25:03
Every single one. That's right.
25:06
Yeah, and I did. It because I, I'm in real
25:08
estate. So it was like my first year
25:09
real estate and I had AI had like a good closing.
25:11
I'm like, Oh, I can just write a check for, for Cox
25:13
Communications for the year. So I wrote it at CLX and then
25:17
like a month later they sent me a late payment like you're,
25:19
you're 30 days behind. I'm like, how am I 30 days
25:21
behind? I prepaid you for the year and
25:23
then I get the check back in the mail.
25:25
So that's when I started writing it to the spelling at the
25:28
traditional way that God intended it.
25:31
That's funny. Yeah.
25:32
Before, before you came back, we were talking about enjoying
25:36
yourself and screwing up on stage and all that stuff.
25:38
Well, I heard, I heard some of it.
25:39
I was just, I was frozen, but I could still hear you so.
25:42
Oh, you could hear it. Yeah, I could hear some of this
25:44
stuff. But on that, so like I always
25:46
tell my guys, like if you screw up, no, nobody ever knows you
25:49
screwed up on stage. A OK 2 two reasons.
25:52
If it's if it was on the album and they know the thong and it's
25:56
a lead that's really memorable, sure.
25:58
Or a. Super.
25:59
Fan, right? Super fan.
26:00
Yeah, or, or if you make a face. If you don't make a face, fuck
26:04
up. That's another one he knows.
26:06
Right poker face. Right, right.
26:08
Exactly, that's why that guy said do it again with authority,
26:12
right? Like you're meant to do it.
26:13
Like. Most of the time, those moments,
26:15
they're golden. Right, right.
26:18
And guitar players can make all the faces they want, because
26:20
guitar players make faces when they play guitar.
26:22
You know, that's true. The Blues face.
26:24
Yeah. Or the bass face.
26:25
Oh, yeah. Love it you.
26:28
Know it just happens. Where if I make?
26:29
There's nothing you can do. And if a singer makes a face,
26:32
people think you're having a seizure.
26:33
Wait, what's wrong with him? Is that guy OK?
26:38
Unless you're a black. Blues player, you can do
26:40
whatever you. Want right?
26:41
Correct. Yeah, they have.
26:42
They have a free ticket, you know.
26:45
It's very good. Like from the faces that the guy
26:47
that does the cover of the Ozzy Osbourne song, didn't it do Oh,
26:55
youngblood, youngblood, youngblood changes dude, that
26:59
guy, Oh my God. I got I did a deep dive into him
27:02
and that guy's got some amazing Blues faces.
27:04
I'm just like. Absolutely.
27:06
Well and and Sharon Osbourne made Youngblood a household
27:10
name. He wasn't, he wasn't.
27:13
He wasn't really anything until they did the the whatever they
27:17
called that last show they did with Black Sabbath.
27:20
Yeah. They pulled him up on, they
27:22
pulled him because apparently he knows Ozzy because, you know,
27:24
England and stuff. But the young blood wasn't
27:27
really relevant to the United States until that, that tribute
27:29
concert to Ozzy. That's true story.
27:32
And so, yeah. And then Changes won the Grammy
27:35
for best live Performance, which, oh, it should have.
27:37
That thing's phenomenal. And I bought, I'm that guy that
27:40
buys the entire album on iTunes. I just don't buy a song.
27:43
So I've listened to his record probably, I don't know, 1520
27:47
Times Now. It is top to bottom.
27:48
It's it's, it grows on you. But that's how good music should
27:51
be. If you if you love it right out
27:52
the gate, it's like, OK, this is a flashing pan, but his stuff,
27:56
it's, it's grown on me to the fact that it's, it's deeper than
27:59
people think he is. But yeah, he's, he's who he is
28:02
now because of Sharon Osbourne. That's Sharon Osbourne's touch,
28:05
like you're going to go do this song and that's.
28:07
It I made a lot of bands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:11
So that just shows that just shows you the power of one
28:14
person. That's all he needed.
28:16
Because without that, he wouldn't be a, he wouldn't be a
28:18
topic right now. It's true if we're talking
28:21
about. Right now.
28:22
Right, right. But yeah, he did a hell of a
28:24
performance with that. Just phenomenal.
28:26
Oh God, it was good. But like, it was that
28:27
performance that made me like, OK, let's see what else this guy
28:30
has. Right.
28:31
I wish they would have used him instead of Post Malone when they
28:35
did the other tribute Contra, because I I wasn't.
28:37
I was like Post Malone. Fucking really.
28:40
Like, really? You know what, man, here's the
28:42
thing. I freaking so I was there's this
28:44
place called the Revolution out in Utah and Neil from what's
28:52
that band Royal Bliss and he so the owners of the venue wanted
28:59
Neil from Royal Bliss, me and Post Malone and I, I just, I was
29:04
like, I don't know who post alone is this is back in like
29:06
20, 2020 like that. He was a superstar, but I didn't
29:10
know who he was. And so I I've got girls and so
29:16
kind of the rule of the house is you got a face neck tattoo.
29:18
You don't bring him fucking home.
29:19
Please. I'm just that guy.
29:23
But here's the deal. I freaking saw that picture.
29:25
I'm like, this will never work. Make sense.
29:27
And then I listen to his music and I felt like such a piece of
29:31
shit. I did, dude.
29:33
I judged. I totally judged.
29:34
And I was just like, that was such a stupid idea.
29:36
And then I really like changed the way I view like everybody in
29:41
the world now, Like, because like, who the fuck that?
29:43
I mean, I don't do anything. Yeah, see, it's not that I don't
29:45
like the guy. I like his his, his sobriety
29:48
record, his recovery record. I like a lot of what he writes,
29:50
but I just don't think he was the right person for tribute.
29:55
Tribute to Ozzy because he's only been around, you know, for
29:59
6-7 years from a high level. Like there's so many people that
30:02
Ozzy touched and they. Won't listen to that after you
30:07
said something because when Chris gets that passionate about
30:10
not liking something so much, I got to know what it means to me.
30:15
I'm going to say I'm indifferent, right?
30:16
Because the one thing that I'll agree with Jensen on, and I know
30:20
you agree with this too, but he's so talented outside of that
30:24
performance. Right, dude, that guy's fucking
30:26
amazing. And he didn't do a bad job job.
30:29
So I have to go with I'm indifferent, right?
30:31
It didn't bother me, but it didn't blow me away either.
30:34
But that's when it comes to the word Ozzy.
30:37
I agree with Chris. It should be held to a higher
30:40
standard. You should be blown.
30:41
Away. That's all.
30:42
That's where I'm going to. That's all I'm saying about that
30:45
for. Sure.
30:45
Yeah, It's like not like it's that's a hard, that's a hard ass
30:49
because like not all of them are, you know what I mean?
30:51
Like it could've. Been Steven Tyler.
30:53
Dude, you're what? Chris.
30:54
Was saying. Right.
30:56
And then like. But that's so that's.
30:59
James Hetfield, do it right. See.
31:02
See. There we go.
31:03
See there. We go see.
31:05
Anybody, anybody else other than Youngblood doing changes like
31:08
that, I don't think would have worked because if you think
31:10
about the musicians. I agree.
31:11
That's one of the most brilliant performances I've ever.
31:14
It's beautiful. Yeah, I agree with that too.
31:15
So I agree with that. There's so many other voices
31:19
that are in the rock world because of Ozzy.
31:22
I just think that Sharon should have Sharon.
31:24
If you call me back, we can have this conversation.
31:27
Yeah, you're welcome on the. Show I just think there feel
31:30
like. You're not.
31:31
Welcome. I just think there's so many
31:32
other, so many other musicians that would have.
31:34
Christmas got put on the map by Sharon Television.
31:38
Yes, it would be fantastic. How many how many hits on
31:43
YouTube? Do you have?
31:45
You can't get publicity like that, that's why.
31:47
You can't. How did you get, how did you get
31:50
3 billion views? Sharon told us.
31:51
Go fuck right? Exactly.
31:54
No, we are. Thank you, Sharon.
31:56
You know, that's all my point is just we'll fuck ourselves.
31:59
Yeah, There's there's so many other musicians, I think that
32:01
just could have filled that space.
32:03
You know? I agree.
32:04
That's just me. That's just me.
32:06
But it was I. Think the respect thing alone.
32:08
Yeah, you know? Yeah.
32:09
Respect that name, man. There's nobody that is more
32:13
responsible for all the things that we know and love as Hard
32:17
Rock music than that man. Bro, he picked up Zach Wilde.
32:20
So I have Zach Wylde's original, not the original original, but a
32:24
copy of the original demo he gave to he gave to Yeah, it was
32:29
to Randy Rd. Yeah, a classical piece.
32:34
And dude, that classical piece was sick.
32:35
And then what is now Book of Shadows, one really awesome one
32:39
of one of the one of the song, I forget which one it was, but
32:41
like, dude, that guy. Can you imagine an 18 years old
32:46
filling Randy Rose's shoes in front of Sharon and Ozzy and.
32:50
Jakey Lee Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jake.
32:54
Jake was a. Bad still is a bad motherfucker.
32:57
Wait, like it's so like Zach, Zach wild to me is like hands
33:01
down, he's my favorite musician ever.
33:04
Just like as far as he's what he's what made well, he's what
33:08
made Jensen Buck, Jensen Buck. Because originally this was
33:13
Garth Brooks meets Creed kind of thing, and now it's more Chris
33:17
Stapleton meets Bob Marley or Sublime, OK?
33:19
OK, OK. That's cool.
33:21
But yeah, I mean, I had that wild rocker biker shit going on,
33:24
but I but I love about I'm a I'm a sucker for a song that
33:27
freaking like dude, man, rip your heart out.
33:28
Like, yeah, I you know what I mean?
33:30
Like the the next, the last album that I wrote, I set out to
33:33
write a bunch of hate fuck you music and I wrote some of the
33:36
prettiest shit that I've ever wrote.
33:39
So it's like, you know what I mean?
33:40
Like. I end up, I end up that way a
33:42
lot. You heard the tone that I had
33:44
when you logged on, right? But more often than not, that
33:47
fades really quickly into where's that nice clean sound I
33:50
got because I had this little thing I was working on, you
33:53
know, that made me happy. Yeah, I do.
33:55
That's why I don't even play my electric anymore.
33:57
I just play acoustic. I drop.
33:58
That a lot. I have that in my other living
34:00
room. That's all I have is an acoustic
34:02
in there, right? Nice.
34:03
It helps you with making songs instead of noodling, you know?
34:08
Yep. Well, I'm a I'm a rhythm player.
34:10
I have no business playing lead like God invented lead players
34:12
for a reason, because I can't something from here to here like
34:16
I can scat, I can write it, I can create it, I can tell you
34:19
how to play it, but I can't play it.
34:21
I don't have to. Say that, but I these guys
34:23
weren't interested in meeting any other guitar players, so I
34:26
had to learn. I was like, OK, I guess we
34:28
didn't. We didn't want a rhythm guitar
34:29
player and I didn't want to play guitar because I liked what I
34:33
did on stage without a, without an instrument.
34:36
So I. Just, you know.
34:37
I didn't want to be trapped behind a guitar.
34:39
I just, I can't. You too had a band.
34:42
Yeah, that song. That that that song that opened
34:44
the show, that was Freeman. Yeah, that was us.
34:47
Yeah. Yeah.
34:49
That would have been the first song you heard if you came to
34:51
see us play every time. We never changed that first
34:53
song. We changed the whole rest of the
34:55
set list obviously. But did you guys tour for a
34:57
while or how'd that go for you? We played all over Phoenix and
35:01
yeah, yeah, yeah. This was What's that bar?
35:05
There's a bar that I would watch Authority 0 in in Phoenix.
35:09
What's his name? Mason Jar we, we played with
35:13
them many times at the Mason Jar.
35:15
We played with them at the Hollywood Alley, the Electric
35:19
Ballroom. Nice.
35:22
We played for, we played with some, some fun people.
35:24
It's, you know, looking back on it, we, you know, we opened up
35:26
for Marshall Tucker Band and I had no fucking idea who Marshall
35:28
Tucker Band was the time because I was more focused on us just
35:31
doing our thing. And then they look back at it,
35:33
you know, 30 years later. It's like, fuck me, man.
35:37
We walked. We walked right by him dude,
35:39
like we were the boss and here's all these old men who had been
35:42
there done that for 30 years before us dumb asses.
35:45
But we weren't rude. To him, we just walked by him to
35:48
go on stage. You know, it's like, who are
35:50
those guys wearing cowboy boots? Right, nice shirts.
35:53
And then, and this was before the Internet, so it was before
35:57
you really had cell phones that could take pic.
35:59
I don't think cell phones were there except for the flip stuff
36:01
like I had a. Cam even have that.
36:03
Yeah, I. Had a.
36:04
This was like beeper. It was beeper.
36:05
It was beeper era. I had a camcorder that we'd
36:09
record our practices and then I would have people record our
36:12
yeah, yeah. And record our sets.
36:14
So then we could watch them back the next practice and and like
36:17
we were doing that just so we could get better at our craft.
36:21
Here's here's how high technology he had.
36:23
Jensen It was the mini cassette. You could plug it into the VCR
36:29
and record the show off the tape.
36:30
Not any tape, right? I missed the game.
36:34
Yeah. It was so much fun.
36:36
Dude. Simple.
36:37
That's it. I'm an.
36:38
Analog girl in a digital. World man, put some Flyers up
36:42
and go play a gig, right? Like I, I always used to tell my
36:47
like I'm done like if I don't, once it gets effective enough
36:51
for me, like I'm off, I'll, I'll do stuff like this, but I'm
36:54
going to create a little bit of content and I'm going to give it
36:57
to my Internet lady. By the way, the the website is
37:00
Anna Jones. Huge shout out to Anna Jones.
37:02
She's probably the one person that stuck with me through all
37:04
of this. Shout out, shout out to you,
37:06
Anna Jones. But flip phone and ACB radio,
37:10
bro, that's where I'm, that's where I'm There you go.
37:14
If you don't know how to get rid of, you don't know how to get a
37:16
hold of me. You're not supposed to.
37:17
There you go, I love. That that part I like as well.
37:20
I want to get to that life. That's been my dream forever.
37:24
Yep. Now with your with with your
37:27
YouTube and I'm clicking, I'm clicking your links on on on
37:32
your on your website. So the links are broken.
37:35
So you got to fix that. Your iTunes link is broken.
37:37
Your YouTube link, it opens up and it says it doesn't go
37:40
anywhere. So go fix your links because I
37:43
want, I want to drive. Part of why we do this it I mean
37:46
it's self-serving for us because we love talking to humans that
37:48
have great resumes and our musicians, but we also we want
37:51
to promote your stuff where people can find your music and
37:53
all that kind of jazz. So you are on iTunes, correct?
37:56
Yeah, I'm on iTunes. I'm on.
37:57
I'm all the streaming sources. So we just start.
38:00
We just partnered with Rebel Sound.
38:02
OK, that Rebel distribution. Anyways, they're going to start
38:05
doing our stuff. And then it was a weird thing.
38:07
So I was with this company, they took it over and decided that
38:12
they were a record label in the middle of it, but they were
38:14
distribution. So all of my stuff disappeared
38:16
for all of 23 into 24. I got it up on like the summer
38:21
24 and then 25 was good and then now like we're re releasing her
38:28
and then so that song that I sent you her, Yeah.
38:30
Yeah, we're. Re releasing that and then
38:32
lampshade support was our was my first radio single from
38:36
Nashville that we're gonna gonna put out and then we're just
38:39
gonna keep going from there with Rebel.
38:41
Alright, cool. But the the hyperlinks, yeah, I
38:45
just. Yeah, I just like, yeah, just
38:47
like just let you know so you can go in there and fix those.
38:49
So I'm glad. You said that because it didn't
38:51
work on my phone either. So what's I tried?
38:53
I tried beating the algorithm and so I got like 15 of
38:56
everything. Oh gotcha.
38:57
So. So it was a bad idea, man.
39:00
Yeah, really bad idea. So what's what's, what's Bella
39:03
Cheetah's role in your in your music career now?
39:08
I'm not sure on what level I could talk about it, but he is
39:13
the the he's gonna be booking us and pick a slot lined up back to
39:16
us well. He's well, he's management.
39:17
He's management. So I figured so like that that
39:20
yeah. So I called Dave, my company,
39:23
Sr. SR1 Services out of Canada.
39:26
OK, that disappeared. I I had to take about a year
39:29
break and they just he just disappeared.
39:31
Wow. I took a break he and kind of
39:32
just like I had to get my shit together.
39:34
Did he own your masters or did you?
39:37
I own my masters. OK, that's that's.
39:40
Good. And so it was, it was.
39:41
I did all the stuff myself. I'd just save up money and do
39:43
it, do a little bit of a time. I actually side note, yeah, I
39:48
was playing, playing with Frankie Ballard and his Rd.
39:52
manager said you need to have an album out.
39:53
And I'm like, I know he's like, I don't think you're hearing
39:58
that. Yeah, you do.
39:59
So I was like, oh, shit. So for years I've done been
40:02
doing singles as we went. Yeah.
40:04
So my first album. Lost Pages is from the ages of
40:11
22 to 33. OK, how old are you now?
40:14
Kind of a my first one is a best up.
40:18
OK, sort of. So how?
40:19
Do you know how old are you now? I am 43.
40:22
OK, cool. Yeah.
40:24
So then we then I put out, I put out back to my pages or, or No,
40:31
no, back-to-back to my roots. And that took me about 7 years
40:36
to put out. And Ryan Tilby out of Utah, he's
40:40
a, if you haven't heard that guy, he's a monster bluegrass
40:43
guy. And so we did all my rock and
40:44
punk songs and changed into bluegrass.
40:47
And then so that, that was how, that how that kind of happened
40:51
for my album. But I called Dave when I when I
40:54
was coming out of my funk and like I got sober, I got got my
40:58
shit together and really kind of pulled my head out of my how
41:01
long you been? Sober.
41:02
How long you been sober? Two years.
41:04
Right on. I got.
41:05
I hit 21. February 9th.
41:08
Hell yeah. Yeah.
41:09
Mike's got about 15. We decided, Mike.
41:13
It's got to be longer than that now because I've been at my job
41:15
15, probably 17 or 18. Right.
41:19
So I so I called him and he was like, hey man, what's up?
41:23
And we started talking and getting it all together.
41:24
I'm like, dude, I got it. I got to get a new agent or
41:28
something because nothing is making sense.
41:31
And so that's us in Rincon. Right on, right on.
41:38
Oh my God, that is the Spud Bowl 20/17/2018.
41:44
OK, you sing the national anthem.
41:46
Yeah, sang the national anthem and I did the pre show.
41:48
I did the pre show, which thoughts?
41:50
Because it was 17° and then I had to and then yeah, for two
41:55
hours. And then I, my last song was
41:57
just a fucking barn burger. I freaking gave it all I had.
42:01
And then my buddy's like, dude, you still got to sing the
42:03
national anthem. I'm like, shit.
42:11
Yeah, but I freaking the only thing I gave a shit about.
42:14
At 83 seconds The Jets fly over me, that land of the free, and I
42:19
nailed it. So that's all I gave.
42:21
Right on. Yeah.
42:22
Right on. So we we, I caught so Dave set
42:28
it up. That's us in in Texas.
42:30
When we were down there at the Hippodrome.
42:31
That was red show. He he, he told me to call Bruce
42:38
and I called Bruce and he kind of was, you know, I mean, he
42:42
didn't really know what the fuck I am.
42:43
And so he kind of he he with kid gloves, I think.
42:47
And then we've, I've just been on it, like, just yeah, let's
42:49
go, let's get things going. You know, I mean, like, it's,
42:52
it's kind of a fall from grace kind of story.
42:55
Cool. Like things were just epic.
42:57
Like, I was play, I played with Alan Jackson, was doing stadium
42:59
shows, got stuff going. I was unsigned.
43:03
Yeah. And then everything kind of fell
43:05
apart during COVID, but I still had a name I could use.
43:09
Yeah, so that's what Jensen butt girl.
43:12
We had a calendar for a while. We had.
43:13
About you've been. Pucked, So I hired I hired a
43:15
bunch of models and bartenders and they would go to our shows.
43:18
There you go and they and they would hand out stuff because you
43:22
want to sell drinks. That was an epic show.
43:24
That forget was epic, but galactic that one.
43:27
No dude, that was. Right on, right on.
43:30
And the rad part about that show is they called me and they said
43:33
we don't know Shane Smith and Saints.
43:35
That was a rad show. They called me and asked me
43:38
like, we don't know who could pull this off and be random.
43:42
We just thought in view and I was just happened to be like,
43:45
fuck yeah, let's go. Let's go.
43:46
That's cool. Where are you getting?
43:50
All these this is your, this is your Facebook, Facebook.
43:53
Oh shit. I clicked, I clicked, I clicked
43:56
on it because it it took it, it was taking me to a video.
43:58
But then when I clicked on that the video, it just it went away.
44:01
So I'm like, well, fuck it, I'm just going to go down those
44:03
pictures and. There you go.
44:05
Because so that was us. We were the house band out in
44:07
Lake Powell for three years. There you go.
44:10
Fucking rad. Dude, you're like you're, you're
44:12
I'm in Arizona, Mike's in Illinois.
44:14
Like if you come on tour in Arizona, you need to let me
44:16
know. Oh bro, I was at Wawi.
44:19
You're what? I was the house band at WAWI.
44:21
I know that's what I'm saying though.
44:22
If if you come back, you if you come back this way, if you're
44:25
headed back here for. Shows Oh, I'm coming back.
44:27
Let me know. There's some places that I'm
44:29
like fucking well known and there's some places that I'm
44:32
famous in Page, AZ I'm fucking famous.
44:35
Like I got fucking, I got picked up by the sheriff and the
44:37
fucking guy from what from Aramark called him and fucking I
44:42
get dropped off in my hotel room right on.
44:44
Right on. That's awesome.
44:47
They were like, don't take him to jail.
44:48
We can't bail him out. I don't know what people said,
44:54
but I was really fucked up and we had a fight and we just it
44:58
was a wild night. It was one of our really
45:00
debaucherous nights. And so, yeah, I just remember
45:04
being in the back of a cop car trying to figure out how I'm
45:07
going to explain this to the to the higher ups at the at the
45:10
resort. And then all I remember is a
45:13
dude saying you better be grateful to your friends and let
45:16
me go there. You.
45:17
Go. Yeah.
45:19
Yeah, never. Yeah, but you ever come back to
45:21
Arizona, Dude, reach out. Let me know because I'll
45:23
definitely come. Check here yeah oh bro freaking
45:26
let me know I I got so I played down at Rocky Point.
45:32
Oh man. COVID.
45:34
Yeah, around COVID, no 19/20/19. No.
45:38
Went down there party down there and then I made a bunch of
45:41
freaking like bunch of met a bunch of people out there.
45:44
So I got I get a lot of people calling me and messaging me
45:46
every once in a while. Cool because I used to hand out
45:50
my number like people wanted to hang out like.
45:53
Well, I got your number. I got your number.
45:55
So just text me. If you know you're coming to
45:57
Arizona, do a show, text me and we'll we'll see.
45:59
If we can, yeah, yeah, definitely.
46:00
And then same thing for Mike. He's in Illinois now.
46:03
So if you, you know you're going to Illinois, reach out, reach
46:05
out to me and I'll text Mike because I don't know if you want
46:07
Mike to have your number. Mike just constantly Mike
46:10
people. Get get my number buddy call me
46:12
and I would get I was living before I came to national.
46:16
I'm a. Strange dude, man, you don't
46:17
want me to have your number? No text in the middle of the
46:20
night? No.
46:22
Right. Do it.
46:23
No, if you ever need any, if you got a rhythm track you want lead
46:28
work done to send it to me. Well, I'm not a lead player, so
46:31
there's a lot of times that I need a lead player, so.
46:33
If you ever need a lead player, man, I have a studio sitting
46:36
right in front of me. This.
46:37
Is a done and done for setup done and done I look at.
46:40
That I'd be happy. To it's all coming together.
46:43
And I'll tell him myself. But you can tell Dave the same
46:46
thing I should have told him when he was.
46:48
You know, if you guys ever need tracks, man, let me know.
46:50
Here's the thing with Dave, he's surrounded by fucking amazing
46:53
artists. I noticed that.
46:55
So like, he he, he and him and I deserves to be too.
47:00
But some of the guys. So the guy on county line is a
47:05
monster on the guitar. He's kind of a shut in a little
47:08
bit. He's a super rad dude.
47:09
I don't, I don't, I don't want to spare time at all.
47:11
But he. Just like kind of we have that
47:13
in. Common we talked about that.
47:14
So like Dave, Dave wanted to fucking branch out and so he
47:19
did. But I've been huge fortune.
47:21
So this that song lampshade support.
47:24
I don't know if you know who Ben Flanders is.
47:25
He's on that song. He's Ella Langley and freaking
47:29
Riley Green guitarist. OK.
47:32
Yeah, it's freaking like I've been.
47:34
I've super blessed on some of these things too, like some of
47:37
the guys who got sat in on it like it's dead so.
47:40
And for me it's more the merrier, like the more people,
47:43
you know, like I don't get, I'm not worried.
47:44
I'm not married to any decision I originally made.
47:48
You know what I mean? Unless I'm on the road, then
47:51
we're under. Then we got to freaking stick
47:52
together. Right.
47:54
Absolutely. If you're in a band and you're
47:56
touring, that's one thing. But if you're just writing
47:58
songs, music is supposed to be shared.
48:01
And you know, I'd never understood that competition
48:03
thing. As soon as I knew a musician was
48:05
in competition, I no longer wanted to be in that.
48:08
You know, I just didn't want to be in that situation.
48:11
You want to know the worst moment of my life?
48:13
I found out Eric Clapton wasn't the guitarist on Ladle.
48:18
Who was? What?
48:20
Yeah, that's one of you guys pierced all right down there.
48:23
Oh shit. Wow.
48:29
That's crazy, man. Yeah, bro.
48:32
So I'm sharing your website, jensenbuck.com, right?
48:37
Yes, Sir, it's a Jensen Buck Music.
48:38
I'm sorry, it's Jensen Buck Music.
48:40
Jensen Buck music.com. So you're going to update this
48:43
when you get your tours and stuff going on.
48:45
Right now you're just basically getting back on track, writing
48:47
music, getting ready to record. Putting it all together, got the
48:51
got the lineup, I think figured out now the Flanders boys were
48:54
going to fit in with me and I got a couple other guys and and
48:58
Bruce is going to work his magic for getting me shows And then
49:01
yeah, yeah, it's alright. Then distribute through Rebel
49:05
and then we're going to try. I'm I'm working right now on
49:07
getting ATV show going following this shit show.
49:11
Oh, right on. That's cool.
49:12
That would be really cool you. Know what I mean like it's just
49:15
like so many people. So if you go to my I sent you
49:18
that link on YouTube, it's that's the road and it so that's
49:21
that was the original idea and I was never able to capture the
49:27
rest of it and like this slowly progressed into just a terrible
49:31
show. The first episode's good, but
49:32
like after that, it just eked its way through.
49:35
But but now I'm, I'm like, you know, there's a whole lot of
49:39
life that musicians go through that, you know, the family, the,
49:44
the money, you know, sometimes you got to get a side job And
49:46
just I want to show this story because, you know, it was, it
49:51
meant, it meant the world to me. But I want to, I want to show my
49:55
kids that you can do it. You know, I mean, and I and I
49:57
want them. I want everybody to see, dude,
49:59
this fucking sucks. Unless you're like, unless
50:02
you've got a dream deal, like it's a grind.
50:04
And I think, I don't know, I just, I think it's a story that
50:07
some people would like to watch. And if not, then I'm just going
50:11
to waste a bunch of money and. Record it.
50:13
OK, here we're going to we're going to share a little clip of
50:14
this, I think. It's a really cool idea, man.
50:16
We still got time. We're going to share a little
50:18
bit of this before we still got time.
50:26
My name is Jensen. This the story of the ups and
50:32
downs and insurance and outs of a.
50:34
Real. Tour musician, life on the road,
50:38
life at home, the lives of those who've been following me through
50:41
this journey. It's a story of what it really
50:45
takes to make it in today's music world.
50:48
From the small town to the big time.
50:50
That was the PBR Rodeo. That was a rad gig.
50:54
Hopefully being able to make a living with this guitar.
50:57
I'm Jensen Buck and this is the road.
50:59
That's cool. That is cool, dude.
51:01
And now fucking so. Now I have to change the fucking
51:04
name. Because Blake Shelton came with
51:06
the road. Blake Shelton fucker.
51:09
I fucking that would be pissed too dude.
51:11
I thought about just keeping it fucking.
51:13
I've had that since fucking 2016.
51:15
Yeah, yeah. Jensen, Jensen, Buck, Comma.
51:18
The road. There you go.
51:19
Because then your name's synonymous with the road.
51:21
Fuck Blake Shelton. You're cooler than Blake
51:22
Shelton, man. He married Gwen Stefon.
51:24
The hell is wrong? I always, I always thought it
51:26
would be great to get sued by somebody super famous because
51:28
that's how you made. It, you know.
51:29
Well, because then no publicity is bad publicity, right?
51:32
It's like when Sharon Osbourne tells us to fuck off.
51:34
OK, Thank you, Sharon, Right. Yeah.
51:36
You know, bring it on, you know? Yeah, bro, you know that's
51:42
awesome. Yeah, that's crazy.
51:43
That's good. We got to have you back, man.
51:45
We got to have you back on a Friday because Friday we have
51:47
unlimited time. Yeah, man, anytime.
51:51
So I just I was just trying to get things going.
51:54
I he he threw sometimes out. I was like, better, let's go so.
51:58
Yeah, I'll text you. Yeah, we'll get you on an April.
52:01
We have. I haven't booked April yet.
52:02
March is booked for the most part, but let's get you on an
52:05
April on a Friday because we started like we have to make my
52:08
schedule may change, but if his schedule changes, we can still
52:10
do longer on Friday. Because yeah, we'll make a day
52:14
for that for sure him and I'll figure out one of the days we
52:17
always make so we can have musicians on and just bullshit
52:20
about, right. I would have loved to have heard
52:23
your stories about the road and all that kind of.
52:25
Those are stories that are near and dear to everybody.
52:27
'S yeah. Oh, I've got the fucking story.
52:29
Yeah. For sure man.
52:31
Yeah, we can. We can share stories for sure.
52:33
That's yeah. Here's the hard part.
52:34
I actually remember most of them and I'm like, I wish I would to
52:38
put it away with the rest of it. Right, see, I never I never
52:40
really drank when I when I was in a band, man, I my my
52:43
alcoholism didn't start till well after the fact.
52:45
But but I just I I the only thing I'd ever drank before a
52:49
show is a shot of Jaeger and I drink AI drink a beer.
52:52
That was it. Oh, I was so I was a fucking
52:54
pirate. So I I carried that with me when
52:56
I came back to. Mute that's not surprising no
52:59
just just spending the hour with you it's not surprising because
53:02
you looks like somebody who has like this epic zest for life and
53:05
you're going to live every day like it's your last day but in a
53:08
good way but in a good way not self-destructive you know
53:12
stepping on people's corpses along the way it's.
53:15
It ended up becoming self-destructive and that's why
53:17
I get. Sober.
53:18
Yeah, it always does. It always starts.
53:21
With the hard part wasn't that everybody in the band thought
53:25
that they could drink like I did and then get on stage and
53:27
perform. And so like, I've been, I, I
53:29
started playing in bar bands when I was 17, so fucking like,
53:33
I and they, they started allowing me to drink at like 18
53:36
the first year. They, like, I had to spend the
53:38
whole time in the bathroom during our breaks and then I
53:40
could come back on stage. And then finally they cut and
53:42
lose. And that was just absolutely the
53:44
worst idea in the world. But then so like when I came
53:47
back, I never rehearsed. I never did it because like my,
53:50
the way I operated is this. I had muscle memory.
53:52
Yeah, and everybody thought they could party like I did.
53:55
And so the rule in the band was we'd get a new guy and they'd be
53:58
like, I can fucking, I can drink with you.
53:59
I'm like, OK, here's here's how that works.
54:02
If you're not in the lobby by 6:00 AM before I get there,
54:04
you're fucking fired. OK, wow.
54:07
And I did. I had to do that twice just to
54:08
make sure I was. So one of them was the drummer
54:13
and I didn't know I was. Oh man, it's really.
54:18
Hard to fire the drummer. Talking shit the whole night we
54:21
were drinking. Oh God, that's awesome.
54:25
Yeah, we got to have you back on in April so we can do this
54:27
longer. Anytime man.
54:29
Dude, you guys are great. You guys are fucking.
54:31
I love that you guys are in a bit.
54:32
How long have you guys been doing the show?
54:34
This is the 185th episode. No, he's 180.
54:39
A winner. OK, you're 180.
54:41
No. No.
54:42
No, he's one eighty 11811. 81. October of 23, OK, We did a
54:49
trial episode. I think we released our first
54:51
episode somewhere around the 27th of October of 23, so 2 1/2
54:55
years, yeah. That's awesome guys, I fucking
54:57
love it. Yeah, it was a way to be
55:00
creative again. Man, he wanted.
55:01
He kept pestering me about doing music and I was like, I didn't
55:04
know if I was ready again. I kept, I kept, I kept writing
55:07
songs and sending them the lyrics.
55:08
I'm like, dude, dude, dude, let's.
55:09
Go and I love them, but I had a super I went through a period
55:14
where I left, I lost all my self-confidence.
55:16
I've been there, man. I relate to a lot of your
55:18
stories. So I I just called him up one
55:21
day and I love this guy, man. He when you talk about Dave
55:24
being there in your darkest moments.
55:26
This fucker showed up at the oddest times when I needed
55:29
somebody to remind me who I was again.
55:31
Yeah, and. I said you want to do a podcast
55:34
and he's like, I've heard of him but I've never listened to 1.
55:38
So I said. You know, we can do whatever we
55:40
want, so this is what we do. Yeah, I always want to start a
55:43
show talking with my friends, to just record conversations with
55:46
buddies. And that's what.
55:48
We hoped this would be, yeah. Yes.
55:50
Yeah, that's as close to a description of what this should
55:53
be as that. Fucking Brad.
55:54
I love it. Dude, you should be the inside.
55:57
You should be the outside person looking in.
55:59
That's how I always wanted to be like.
56:01
I want to know these guys, you know?
56:03
The Fit Watch Watching the Fishbowl.
56:05
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. That Brad.
56:08
This is one of the coolest guys I ever met right here.
56:11
Right back at you. Yeah.
56:12
Yeah. You know, we're just those guys.
56:15
Hey, So this we we wrap every show up like this.
56:18
And again, we're going to have you back on April.
56:19
I'll, I'll give you some text, some dates tomorrow.
56:21
We can figure it out. So if you're feeling suicidal,
56:23
depressed or, you know, just in a wrong state of mind, don't do
56:26
it. Go, go run.
56:27
Go scream in a pillow. Go journal.
56:29
Go talk to somebody who can't find somebody to talk to.
56:31
You Text 988. Suicide is not the option.
56:33
You don't want to leave a hole in somebody else's heart because
56:35
tomorrow's a better day with you waking up in it.
56:37
So just, you know, find someone to talk to you again, text 988
56:40
and somebody will talk to you off that Cliff for that ledge
56:42
and you will be a better person tomorrow because you're waking
56:45
up in it for Chris. That's me.
56:47
He's Mike and this is Jensen Buck, Jensen Buck music.com.
56:50
Go check him out. Life resume is fantastic.
56:53
We're going to we're going to dive deeper next time you're on
56:55
the show with the music and and I'm going to buy some of your
56:58
stuff when we hang up and when we end the show today.
56:59
Right on. That's what I do.
57:00
I buy the music and I listen to it and then I report back to
57:03
you. So you may get some random text
57:05
from me too. And I like this song.
57:06
You know I love it, but it's we'll.
57:08
Check it out, man. Yeah, yeah, man.
57:09
Check it out. Yeah, and tell.
57:11
Bruce it's all they're all so different too.
57:13
So that's cool an interesting. It's like I'll discuss looking
57:16
forward to if I look at it that's.
57:17
Awesome. I love new music, man.
57:18
Yeah. Thanks for coming on, man.
57:20
We really appreciate it. Yeah.
57:21
So tell Bruce we said hi. If you talk to Dave, tell him we
57:23
said hi and then I will. I was serious about we'll get
57:26
Dave on and not tell him and then you just jump in like 2
57:29
minutes into it. Tell we have the real Jensen bug
57:32
popping in here, motherfucker, we're.
57:34
We're, we're just going to say we have somebody chiming in,
57:38
they're calling in. We're.
57:39
Yeah. It'll be.
57:40
It'll be good. Yeah, maybe.
57:44
Maybe have you wear a mask, you know?
57:46
Yeah, yes, yes, yeah. I love this.
57:52
All right, man. Thanks, Jensen dude.
57:53
It's been a pleasure, man. Time is valuable.
57:55
We appreciate yours, you guys. Read man, thanks for having.
57:57
Me. Yeah.
57:58
We'll have you back. Peace.
57:59
Love you, brother Jensen. Peace.
58:01
See you. Love you too man.