Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Advancing Post Acute Care Through Technology and Human Connection with Katrina Melton
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- 0:58- Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. I'm Mariah
- 1:01- Taylor, assistant editor, and I'm thrilled to be
- 1:03- speaking with Katrina Melton, system vice president of
- 1:06- post acute and palliative care at Centara Health.
- 1:08- Thank you so much for joining me today.
- 1:11- I'm really excited to learn more about your
- 1:13- strategic vision on post acute technology innovations. But
- 1:16- before we dive into all my questions, I'd
- 1:18- love you to introduce yourself and tell us
- 1:20- a little bit about your background.
- 1:22- Thanks, Mariah. Appreciate it. It's a pleasure to
- 1:24- be with you today, and I appreciate you
- 1:25- having me on.
- 1:27- So my name is Katrina Melton. I'm the
- 1:28- systems vice president for post acute and palliative
- 1:31- care for Centerra Health.
- 1:33- I've been here for about two years now,
- 1:36- and I am a physical therapist by background.
- 1:38- So I've spent most of my career in
- 1:40- post acute in some way, shape, or form,
- 1:43- and really have found a passion for how
- 1:45- do we, how do we better connect
- 1:47- our,
- 1:48- post acute partners and our community partners with
- 1:51- our health system partners
- 1:52- and physician practices
- 1:54- in order to optimize the care of our
- 1:56- patients. So this is something that we're talking
- 1:58- about today that I'm very, very passionate about,
- 2:01- and I'm looking forward to our conversation.
- 2:03- And I am so excited too because we've
- 2:06- worked together in the past on a few
- 2:07- articles. And in one of those interviews, you
- 2:10- described the future of post acute care as
- 2:12- the intersection of high-tech and high touch, which
- 2:15- I thought was such an interesting quote. So
- 2:17- can you give us a little bit more
- 2:19- on what that means and what that looks
- 2:21- like on a day to day in your
- 2:23- organization?
- 2:24- Yeah. I'd be happy to. Thanks. You know,
- 2:26- I think today, with technology moving as quickly
- 2:28- as it is,
- 2:29- that intersection between high-tech and high touch is
- 2:32- really is really a work in progress.
- 2:35- We're kinda at a pivotal moment where technology
- 2:37- and human connections are coming together in brand
- 2:40- new ways, and as healthcare continues to evolve,
- 2:44- that really our greatest opportunity isn't simply just
- 2:46- implementing technology.
- 2:48- It's really being thoughtful about using it in
- 2:50- a way that better supports our clinicians
- 2:52- and gives them more time to focus on
- 2:54- what matters most, which is caring for our
- 2:56- patients.
- 2:57- We've implemented several tools here. We've implemented ambient
- 3:00- listening, automation, predictive analytics,
- 3:03- all of which help reduce our administrative burden,
- 3:06- identify risks earlier, which is really a unique
- 3:08- piece of the AI world that we have
- 3:10- in play now,
- 3:12- and creating more personalized care experiences. And all
- 3:14- of this is allowing us to work smarter,
- 3:17- improve our outcomes, and meet our patients better
- 3:19- where they are.
- 3:20- So when I think about the intersection that
- 3:23- we talked about here,
- 3:24- it really boils down to technology helps our
- 3:26- clinicians connect the dots across that patient's journey,
- 3:30- allowing for more coordinated care without losing that
- 3:32- human connection. And I think, for me, that's
- 3:35- what I mean by that intersection,
- 3:37- not losing that
- 3:39- that real person to person touch, but having
- 3:41- the supportive technology
- 3:43- to help us be more efficient in that.
- 3:46- Amazing. Now as a reporter who's kind of
- 3:49- on the outskirts of everything going on in
- 3:51- health care, it seems like post acute has
- 3:53- historically kind of lagged behind acute care when
- 3:55- it comes to technology
- 3:57- adaptation.
- 3:58- But recently, I've been seeing a lot more
- 4:00- reports and a lot more cool new technologies,
- 4:03- AI and otherwise,
- 4:05- that are coming just for post acute care.
- 4:07- So why is all of that changing now?
- 4:11- You know, I think that's a that's a
- 4:12- great question. Really historically,
- 4:15- post acute care wasn't necessarily viewed with the
- 4:18- same strategic importance as the acute care, and
- 4:21- even ambulatory.
- 4:23- So
- 4:24- a lot of the investment in technology, both
- 4:26- from an implementation as well as a development
- 4:28- standpoint,
- 4:29- was concentrated within the hospital and ambulatory settings.
- 4:33- That's changing now because healthcare is increasingly recognizing
- 4:36- that our outcomes are shaped across the entire
- 4:38- care continuum,
- 4:39- not just in the walls of the hospital.
- 4:42- And so I've often said that acute care
- 4:44- saves lives, but post acute care shapes lives.
- 4:48- So every setting has a vital role, yet
- 4:50- the care that the patient receives after and
- 4:52- sometimes even before or instead of a hospitalization
- 4:56- have the greatest influence on their recovery, the
- 4:59- patient's independence,
- 5:00- and most importantly, their quality of life. So
- 5:02- I think that's why
- 5:03- post acute and palliative care in particular have
- 5:06- become such critical components
- 5:08- of value based care and population health strategies.
- 5:11- As healthcare increasingly
- 5:12- recognizes and is reimbursed
- 5:15- for the impact post acute care has on
- 5:17- outcomes,
- 5:18- as well as patient experience and the total
- 5:20- cost of care, investment in technology is kinda
- 5:23- naturally falling.
- 5:25- That's really interesting. And it kind of goes
- 5:27- along with something a lot of other leaders
- 5:29- have been talking about, which is that transition
- 5:32- between hospitals and a post acute setting, whether
- 5:35- that's, you know, skilled nursing facilities, home health,
- 5:38- etcetera.
- 5:38- It seems like that transition period is a
- 5:42- common place where patients can start falling through
- 5:44- the cracks.
- 5:45- Which tools have made the biggest difference in
- 5:47- coordinating those hands off?
- 5:50- Yeah, I think that's a enormous opportunity in
- 5:53- healthcare as a whole. And one of the
- 5:55- things that I'm personally most passionate about is
- 5:58- making sure patients don't feel like they're navigating
- 6:00- the complexities of healthcare alone,
- 6:02- right? Historically, as you said,
- 6:04- transitions between the hospital post acute providers and
- 6:07- outpatient care were managed in silos, and we
- 6:10- relied on old school telephones and phone calls,
- 6:13- faxes, and disconnected processes,
- 6:16- which ultimately resulted in opportunities where patients can
- 6:19- fall through the cracks. I think the biggest
- 6:21- difference today is that we have tools that
- 6:23- create visibility across the care continuum.
- 6:26- We have shared health records,
- 6:28- care coordination platforms, referral management technologies,
- 6:31- and analytics
- 6:33- that allow us to track the patient's journey,
- 6:35- and ensure that those critical handoffs are not
- 6:38- missed and they're not... They don't fall for
- 6:40- the cracks.
- 6:41- What's even more exciting as we as we
- 6:43- enter the world of AI is that our
- 6:45- growing ability to identify risks earlier. So we
- 6:47- can recognize when a patient might benefit from
- 6:50- additional support
- 6:51- before a crisis occurs and they fall through
- 6:53- that crack.
- 6:54- That said, I'm gonna say what I said
- 6:56- earlier, which is technology isn't the solution by
- 6:59- itself. The best outcomes are gonna happen when
- 7:02- great technology pairs with compassionate clinicians and support
- 7:05- teams who take the time to engage the
- 7:07- patients and the families. I think technology
- 7:10- provides the, you know, the insights for our
- 7:12- clinicians, but our people turn that insight into
- 7:15- the exceptional care.
- 7:17- I love that. I think there definitely is
- 7:19- something so powerful when you can bring the
- 7:21- right people with the right technology, and it
- 7:23- just becomes magical.
- 7:25- Kind of on that thread, one place that
- 7:28- technology has really exploded is administrative tasks. Right?
- 7:32- And I think that's where we all love
- 7:34- technology the most, is reducing that burden, doing
- 7:36- more automation, all of that. So within post
- 7:39- acute care, which administrative tasks have you been
- 7:42- able to reduce or to automate, and what
- 7:44- have the results been?
- 7:46- Yeah. Well, first of all, I wanna... I'm
- 7:48- glad you asked this question.
- 7:50- One of the biggest opportunities we have in
- 7:52- health care is reducing the administrative burden that
- 7:54- takes clinicians away from the patient.
- 7:57- So across post acute care, we've been implementing
- 8:00- automation in areas like referral intake, authorization management,
- 8:04- helping us to meet our regulatory requirements, scheduling,
- 8:07- capacity management, and care coordination.
- 8:10- We're also exploring AI enabled tools that can
- 8:13- assist with chart review, referral processing,
- 8:16- and other administrative and clinical workflows.
- 8:19- I think we're still in the early stages
- 8:21- of that journey, but the results so far
- 8:23- have been really meaningful.
- 8:24- And one example that I'm really excited about
- 8:27- is a tool that we recently implemented
- 8:29- that provides our clinicians in the home health
- 8:31- and hospice space with an audio summary
- 8:34- of key patient information while they're traveling to
- 8:37- the patient's home.
- 8:38- And that something this simple, it saves time,
- 8:41- it creates consistency,
- 8:43- and it allows our clinicians to arrive to
- 8:44- the patient's home better prepared.
- 8:47- Ultimately, I think, you know, as I've been
- 8:50- saying, the goal isn't to replace people. I
- 8:52- think we hear that a lot in technology.
- 8:54- It's not to replace people with technology, it's
- 8:57- to remove inefficiencies
- 8:58- so our clinicians can focus more of their
- 9:00- time and energy on that hands on care.
- 9:03- Absolutely.
- 9:04- And now I'd like to talk about probably
- 9:06- the thorn in everyone's side, which is the
- 9:08- financial aspect of this because margins across health
- 9:11- care are very thin, and in post acute
- 9:13- care, they seem to be the thinnest of
- 9:15- all. How do you decide which technology investments
- 9:18- are worth it, and how do you measure
- 9:19- the return?
- 9:21- Yeah. I think that's a great question because
- 9:23- in post acute care, every investment must solve
- 9:26- a real problem and create meaningful value.
- 9:29- When we're evaluating technology, we really start by
- 9:32- asking, will it improve outcomes? Will it enhance
- 9:34- patient and caregiver experience?
- 9:36- Or will it... And or I guess, will
- 9:38- it help our teams work more effectively?
- 9:41- We intentionally prioritize solutions that improve access,
- 9:45- that strengthen care coordination,
- 9:46- support our teams, and help patients receive the
- 9:49- right care at the right time.
- 9:51- To the second part of your question,
- 9:53- we, of course, look at traditional metrics like
- 9:55- productivity and operational efficiencies, cost per episode, volume.
- 9:59- But the true return really goes beyond the
- 10:01- financial performance.
- 10:03- So therefore, our focus extends beyond performance of
- 10:06- any single department.
- 10:08- We look at the impact we're making on
- 10:10- the individual patient, and then we look at
- 10:12- the value we're creating across the health system
- 10:14- as a whole, which is what we call
- 10:16- one Sentara or the one Sentara approach to
- 10:18- care.
- 10:19- Some of the most meaningful returns never show
- 10:21- up on the post acute financial statement. They're
- 10:24- instead reflected in the total cost of care
- 10:26- through an elimination of a readmission
- 10:29- or avoiding an ET visit,
- 10:31- or moving the patient to the appropriate level
- 10:33- of care without having to stop... Make a
- 10:35- stop in the hospital first.
- 10:37- To me, that's the real value of technology
- 10:40- in the post acute space. Because when we
- 10:42- get it right for the patient, we're often
- 10:44- getting it right for the health system as
- 10:45- well.
- 10:47- I love that. Now I'd love to kinda
- 10:49- look into the future. If you can imagine
- 10:51- five years from now, what do you hope
- 10:53- will be different for patients and families because
- 10:55- of this high-tech, high touch approach?
- 10:58- Yeah. I think there's gonna be a lot,
- 11:00- a lot that will change in all the
- 11:02- best ways.
- 11:03- Today, too many people experience health care as
- 11:06- a series of, like, disconnected events.
- 11:08- My hope is that in five years, care
- 11:10- feels more connected and coordinated.
- 11:13- I want transitions between settings to feel seamless
- 11:16- and intentional.
- 11:17- I want patients and families spending less time
- 11:19- trying to navigate health care and more time
- 11:21- focusing on what matters most to them. And
- 11:24- I want our caregivers, both our professional caregivers,
- 11:26- as well as our family caregivers to feel
- 11:28- supported as well.
- 11:30- I hope
- 11:31- we're identifying needs earlier, having important conversations sooner
- 11:35- and bringing resources proactively like I mentioned earlier
- 11:38- in our conversation
- 11:40- before the patient needs, you know, some kind
- 11:43- of a crisis point. I also hope we're
- 11:45- helping people remain safely and comfortable in their
- 11:47- homes.
- 11:48- Most importantly,
- 11:50- I think I hope people,
- 11:52- I hope they feel like they have a
- 11:53- true partner in their care, not just a
- 11:56- health system that they have to navigate.
- 11:58- And honestly, if we're truly successful with technology,
- 12:01- technology won't be what the patients remember. They'll
- 12:04- remember that their care felt coordinated. They'll remember
- 12:06- that there were clinicians were present with them
- 12:09- and that they had... They and their families
- 12:11- felt supported throughout their journey. And I think
- 12:13- that is what I'm most excited about in
- 12:15- regards to helping to create something in a
- 12:17- post acute space.
- 12:19- I absolutely love that vision, and it's been
- 12:22- so cool to just hear you talk about
- 12:24- everything going on in post acute and, you
- 12:26- know, how we can really make this a
- 12:27- high-tech, high touch environment. So thank you for
- 12:30- being here, for sharing all of your thoughts.
- 12:32- It's been such a pleasure having you.
- 12:35- Thank you so much for having me. I
- 12:36- appreciate it greatly.