Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 19 November
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Jesus the good report tonight, the Prime Minister snaps when
- 0:16Speaker 1: it's confronted by a reporter ask him about the government's
- 0:20Speaker 1: grubbiest scandal. The Liberals try to go hard on immigration,
- 0:25Speaker 1: with Paulinehanssen says nowhere near enough. And Donald Trump abuses
- 0:29Speaker 1: female reporters, including one pointing out is sitting next to
- 0:33Speaker 1: an accused murderer. Plus the craziest racism claim from Barack
- 0:38Speaker 1: Obama's wife why whites stop women like her from swimming?
- 0:45Speaker 1: But first, the ABC boss at the National Press Club today,
- 0:50Speaker 1: I mean talk about someone both denying but also confirming
- 0:56Speaker 1: the great sin of the ABC It's bias. Here first
- 1:00Speaker 1: is the denial.
- 1:02Speaker 2: The ABC takes no editorial stand other than our charter
- 1:06Speaker 2: directed commitments to the rule of law, freedom of speech
- 1:09Speaker 2: and religion, parliamentary democracy, and non discrimination. And when we
- 1:14Speaker 2: talk about journalistic impartiality, we are talking about passivity. Impartiality
- 1:19Speaker 2: isn't seeking false balance where every idea, no matter how weak,
- 1:23Speaker 2: is presented as equal. Journalistic task and skill is to
- 1:27Speaker 2: select the stories that matter and present the facts and
- 1:30Speaker 2: relevant perspectives that equip people to make up their own minds.
- 1:36Speaker 1: As if now I'll be blunt. The ABC, in fact,
- 1:40Speaker 1: operates like a gain of thieves. Our national broadcaster takes
- 1:45Speaker 1: your money, promising not to misspend it by favoring one
- 1:49Speaker 1: side of politics, but then does exactly that. And that
- 1:54Speaker 1: really is theft money that are or you are forced
- 1:59Speaker 1: to hand over by law to the ABC. An ABC
- 2:04Speaker 1: that's meant in its charter to be impartial is the
- 2:08Speaker 1: hijacked by the left to preach its politics to damn
- 2:11Speaker 1: you know, taxpayers like me and maybe you as wrong
- 2:15Speaker 1: and bad, to damn Sky News as right wing, without
- 2:19Speaker 1: realizing what that says about the ABC. You know that
- 2:23Speaker 1: being conservative well to the ABC, that's actually so appalling. Well,
- 2:31Speaker 1: we all know that the ABC is based. I mean
- 2:33Speaker 1: I've given so many examples of it on my show
- 2:36Speaker 1: almost every week for a decade. Just last week I
- 2:41Speaker 1: showed you the ABC's John Lyons editing out vital information
- 2:45Speaker 1: and making Donald Trump seem like a pedophile. Or just yesterday,
- 2:50Speaker 1: ABC presenters Sarah Ferguson, I showed her interrupting opposition leader
- 2:54Speaker 1: Susan Lee thirty five times in one interview. That's once
- 2:57Speaker 1: every twenty two seconds, aparently angry that Lee was going
- 3:01Speaker 1: against the net zero cult.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Got yet that tink of the documents Document City.
- 3:08Speaker 4: It is about the government ape. I'm not That's why
- 3:10Speaker 4: costs have gone up forty percent. That's why Australians are struggling.
- 3:14Speaker 5: That's why we have to thank you very much for
- 3:15Speaker 5: coming in.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Now. The ABC's buyers is actually important, and not just
- 3:22Speaker 1: as a matter of principle, you know, the theft. It's
- 3:26Speaker 1: also wrong because the ABC has all these TV stations
- 3:31Speaker 1: and radio stations and a website influencing public debates, misusing
- 3:37Speaker 1: taxpayer money sometimes to intimidate or even punish and defame
- 3:43Speaker 1: conservatives standing in its way. You think, how relentlessly, Just
- 3:48Speaker 1: as one example, it's speared the innocent Cardinal George Pell,
- 3:52Speaker 1: a Catholic Conservative, speared him as a pedophile, helping to hound
- 3:57Speaker 1: him to jail for crimes I showed here he could
- 4:00Speaker 1: not possibly have committed, and the High Court apparently agreed
- 4:03Speaker 1: and freed him. Well you think how only yesterday a
- 4:07Speaker 1: presenter speared One Nation leader paul In Hanson as a racist.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Were ay, have you stopped beating your wife? Kind of question?
- 4:15Speaker 6: When you got anyone spearing the hate on the streets.
- 4:17Speaker 6: And I've seen that not only from neo nasis. I've
- 4:20Speaker 6: seen it from some clerics on our streets and I
- 4:23Speaker 6: think it's discussing, yet we don't seem to do anything
- 4:25Speaker 6: about them.
- 4:26Speaker 5: Do you apply those same principles to your own speech
- 4:30Speaker 5: when it comes to talking about Asians or Muslims or
- 4:33Speaker 5: other communities.
- 4:35Speaker 6: Sarah, I think you better rephrase that.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And how many other conservatives has the ABC attacked and
- 4:41Speaker 1: even defined it's had to apologize to me, to Chris
- 4:45Speaker 1: Kenny to form a liberal MP, Andrew Lamming and on
- 4:48Speaker 1: it goes. But back to Hugh Marks the day now
- 4:53Speaker 1: you heard him there both The ABC takes no editorial loans.
- 4:57Speaker 1: It just leaves the decisions up to you. That's kind
- 5:02Speaker 1: of true. I mean, there is really an edict going
- 5:06Speaker 1: out from the ABC. You must attack Sky News, you
- 5:10Speaker 1: must defend that zero. But the truth is the ABC
- 5:15Speaker 1: doesn't need an order to be told the ABC line.
- 5:19Speaker 1: They decided anyway. I mean, it's so obvious that you
- 5:23Speaker 1: will know the ABC line on global warming. You know
- 5:26Speaker 1: it already. You know what it'll say about Donald Trump,
- 5:28Speaker 1: you know what it thinks about multiculturals, you know what
- 5:31Speaker 1: it thinks of transgender politics, and even the ABC last
- 5:34Speaker 1: night had to cop to that last one, transgender politics,
- 5:38Speaker 1: after listing all the examples of the ABC bias there.
- 5:43Speaker 7: As for that third major criticism that the ABC likes,
- 5:47Speaker 7: the BBC is failing to report critically on transgender issues,
- 5:52Speaker 7: we fear there may indeed be grounds for concern.
- 5:56Speaker 1: But Marx isn't quite right in saying, oh, the ABC
- 5:58Speaker 1: issues no edicts in some very political issues. It certainly
- 6:02Speaker 1: does take an editorial line like making it shows announce
- 6:08Speaker 1: themselves like this.
- 6:10Speaker 8: Good morning, welcome to AM. It's Wednesday, the nineteenth of November.
- 6:14Speaker 5: I'm sar Berline, coming to you from Nippolona hobart.
- 6:19Speaker 9: Ah.
- 6:19Speaker 1: The new Tribalism marks himself in his speech today play
- 6:22Speaker 1: that same ABC identity politics of the Left.
- 6:27Speaker 2: I like start offf just by acknowledging the traditional liners
- 6:30Speaker 2: of the lands of which we may, and acknowledge their
- 6:33Speaker 2: leader's past president emerging obviously any Indigenous people in the
- 6:37Speaker 2: room today and watching on television.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Yeah, despite all this, the ABC still insists on this
- 6:44Speaker 1: obvious falsehood. No, it's not biased, and only nasty conservative
- 6:50Speaker 1: journalists would say so. Why would only conservatives say that?
- 6:54Speaker 1: Even ABC journalists they must know this is a lie.
- 7:00Speaker 1: There was a survey admittedly tiny, of ABC journalists a
- 7:04Speaker 1: decade ago that found that of those who responded well,
- 7:08Speaker 1: they were five times more likely than the rest of
- 7:11Speaker 1: Australia to vote green. Well, you take the hosts of
- 7:15Speaker 1: every one of the ABC's main current affairs show, you
- 7:17Speaker 1: will not find a single conservative. And I think it's deliberate.
- 7:24Speaker 1: The ABC did used to once have conservatives like me,
- 7:27Speaker 1: but only really as regular guests, you know, not as
- 7:30Speaker 1: hosts on debate shows like Insiders, even if it was
- 7:34Speaker 1: usually one of us against the rest of them. But
- 7:40Speaker 1: Cha Battero's's ABC chairman then made it clear that people
- 7:43Speaker 1: like me we're no longer welcome.
- 7:47Speaker 10: I certainly hadn't thought that Andrew Bolt would be a
- 7:49Speaker 10: great fit for the ABC.
- 7:51Speaker 9: There were no job offers out there, Andrew.
- 7:53Speaker 10: Sorry Andrew, but there are no job offers.
- 7:57Speaker 1: But I said today that Marx having the ABC's bias,
- 8:02Speaker 1: and then seemed to me to confirm it because he
- 8:06Speaker 1: admitted the ABC should maybe have more chat shows on
- 8:10Speaker 1: TV with guests giving a different perspective, and then say, well,
- 8:16Speaker 1: because you couldn't expect that from the ABC journalists.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Sometimes I think obviously the ABC where a factual, accuracy, impartiality,
- 8:27Speaker 2: objective perspectives. These are all the important things, but sometimes
- 8:31Speaker 2: maybe we need to you know, we do it well
- 8:33Speaker 2: on audio, but maybe we also need to do on
- 8:35Speaker 2: television provide program formats that enable you know, different relevant
- 8:40Speaker 2: perspectives to meet in a more of a town hall format,
- 8:44Speaker 2: a town hall style, rather than our journalists having to present,
- 8:48Speaker 2: you know, balancing different relevant perspectives.
- 8:51Speaker 1: They said, you know how these things go as I
- 8:53Speaker 1: as I said, you know, I used to go on Insiders,
- 8:56Speaker 1: or when it was invited on Q and A, you know,
- 8:59Speaker 1: you'd have you'd be there sitting on your own as
- 9:01Speaker 1: a conservative, out numbered by the left of course, and
- 9:04Speaker 1: you know, with a left wing audience and a left
- 9:06Speaker 1: wing an ABC host, and that kind of bored and
- 9:09Speaker 1: wore away a lot of conservatives who no longer turned up,
- 9:13Speaker 1: and in fact also a lot weren't invited anymore. And
- 9:17Speaker 1: so Q and A god as boring as hell. Now
- 9:20Speaker 1: Ada Butcher's used to claim of exactly complain of exactly
- 9:23Speaker 1: that kind of thing too. ABC stuff not really wanting
- 9:25Speaker 1: conservatives on their show giving opinions, or not wanting to
- 9:30Speaker 1: treat them fairly when they did.
- 9:32Speaker 11: Do you think the ABC is delivering with regards to
- 9:36Speaker 11: objectivity and impartiality.
- 9:38Speaker 10: I think there is an unconscious bias, and I think
- 9:41Speaker 10: it's I think there's no harm in presenting both sides
- 9:45Speaker 10: of an argument. And I don't understand the reluctance of
- 9:49Speaker 10: some of our interviewers not to see I've said our
- 9:53Speaker 10: some of the ABC's interviewers not to do that.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Now. That was one of the few times said Ada
- 9:59Speaker 1: Butterer has admitted ABC presenters could be bassed before she
- 10:01Speaker 1: was whipped into line. So, Hugh Marx, I reckon you
- 10:05Speaker 1: should just confess your ABC is based But I know,
- 10:08Speaker 1: of course, as soon as you do that, then you
- 10:10Speaker 1: have to fix up a hiring conservatives as well, and
- 10:12Speaker 1: then all hell would break out among this up and
- 10:14Speaker 1: the audience, your love would be hell, and you wouldn't
- 10:16Speaker 1: want to turn up to work. So that's not going
- 10:18Speaker 1: to happen. So we are back then to the tough reality.
- 10:22Speaker 1: The ABC cannot be reformed. It steals from conservatives to
- 10:27Speaker 1: give to the left, and it will not change. And
- 10:31Speaker 1: that leaves only one choice for conservatives. The ABC must
- 10:35Speaker 1: be sold or just make its audience pay for the ABC,
- 10:41Speaker 1: as you viewers must do for Sky. The Prime Minister
- 10:49Speaker 1: today was finally confronted about the biggest scandal of his government.
- 10:53Speaker 1: It wasn't happy at all and talk about evasive. Anthony
- 10:57Speaker 1: Albanezi was asked about reports into the two point four
- 11:02Speaker 1: million dollars that his government gave to form a Liberal
- 11:05Speaker 1: staff for Britney Higgins, in part because she'd claimed the
- 11:08Speaker 1: Morrison government and especially then boss Liberal Defense Minister Linda Reynolds,
- 11:13Speaker 1: had treated her badly and tried to cover up her
- 11:16Speaker 1: rape by another staffer and Laby use higgins claims to
- 11:20Speaker 1: destroy the Morrison government. Then, after winning power, it paid
- 11:25Speaker 1: Higgins that compensation after banning Reynolds from giving evidence that
- 11:30Speaker 1: higgins claims of a cover up and bad treatment were
- 11:33Speaker 1: utterly false, which two judges have since confirmed Higgins had lied.
- 11:38Speaker 1: And now Reynolds is suing the government and its lawyers,
- 11:43Speaker 1: although the government's in a snit because she wanted to
- 11:46Speaker 1: include two of the so called mean girls in the government,
- 11:49Speaker 1: Penny Wong and Katie Gallaher, in the claim, but they
- 11:52Speaker 1: made her drop it. Well watch now when journalists today
- 11:55Speaker 1: tried to ask Albaneze about that and the dodgy, dodgy
- 11:59Speaker 1: payment to a liar who'd helped them win government.
- 12:03Speaker 12: A rape occurred in that is what a judge found
- 12:07Speaker 12: on the balance of probability in a ministerial office in
- 12:11Speaker 12: Palmer House.
- 12:13Speaker 13: I think that's a pretty big issue.
- 12:14Speaker 9: But isn't it separate to the allegations of a cover up?
- 12:17Speaker 12: I think that's I think that is a pretty big issue.
- 12:20Speaker 4: There isn't two and a half million dollars a year.
- 12:22Speaker 12: You can fashion the same question the same answer.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Join him is the political panel Cameron Milner, former chief
- 12:30Speaker 1: of staff to Labor leader Bill Shorten and now director
- 12:32Speaker 1: of g XO Strategies, and Michael Costa, former New South
- 12:36Speaker 1: Wales Labor Treasurer. Cameron Albiniz's response there, I thought it
- 12:41Speaker 1: was extremely shifty. Oh but rape is a serious thing. Well,
- 12:44Speaker 1: of course it is. But the questions were not about
- 12:47Speaker 1: the rape, but about the false claims of a cover
- 12:52Speaker 1: up that Labor exploited. What is going on here?
- 12:57Speaker 3: Well, what's going on is it's a protection racket for
- 13:00Speaker 3: his thugs. In the Senate, Penny one Kadie Gallagher weaponized
- 13:04Speaker 3: weaponized allegations of rape in the Australian Parliament they weaponize
- 13:08Speaker 3: it to get Albany's political advantage in the twenty twenty
- 13:11Speaker 3: two election. This is the disgusting heart of this thing.
- 13:14Speaker 3: It's a sordid, sordid saga. But there needs to be
- 13:17Speaker 3: an inquiry, Andrew. There needs to be the daylight and
- 13:19Speaker 3: sunlight shine on this and the mean girls need to
- 13:22Speaker 3: fess up. The mean girls need to work out why
- 13:25Speaker 3: they would have weaponized a poor girl who's alleged rape occurred.
- 13:29Speaker 3: They weaponized that for their own political advantage, for Albo's advantage,
- 13:32Speaker 3: and that's what's so disgusting, Andrew. And that's why there
- 13:35Speaker 3: needs to be inquiry. And if they've got nothing to hide,
- 13:38Speaker 3: they should have nothing to fear.
- 13:41Speaker 1: But Michael costser, I don't think there is going to
- 13:44Speaker 1: be an accounting for what happened. They are two point
- 13:46Speaker 1: four million dollars handed over. I just think it's red hot,
- 13:52Speaker 1: But I don't think anyone's going to hold the government
- 13:55Speaker 1: to account.
- 13:57Speaker 8: Well, look, the whole thing is a case of no
- 13:59Speaker 8: when is here, Andrew, As you realize, only the lawyers
- 14:03Speaker 8: have won out of this, and this was referred to
- 14:05Speaker 8: the National Corruption Comdission, as you know, and they said
- 14:08Speaker 8: there was no corruption, But the issue for me is
- 14:10Speaker 8: the payment methodology. I think that we've got to shine
- 14:14Speaker 8: the light on that. From a point of public administration,
- 14:17Speaker 8: I have no idea how they came to the figures
- 14:19Speaker 8: they did and if there was a percentage included for
- 14:22Speaker 8: an alleged cover up, that needs to be documented and
- 14:27Speaker 8: exposed so the public knows what it is. In terms
- 14:29Speaker 8: of the politics of this made again, I blame the
- 14:33Speaker 8: opposition for this. I mean, you know, the fact of
- 14:35Speaker 8: the matter is that are they pursuing this in the parliament.
- 14:37Speaker 8: I don't hear them pursuing it. And you're also got
- 14:40Speaker 8: to remember nobody's cleaning this. We just have to go
- 14:42Speaker 8: back to the the Ute gate where Turnbull tried to
- 14:47Speaker 8: smear a range of people in the Parliament and he
- 14:50Speaker 8: had to resign, but that was handled through a political process.
- 14:53Speaker 8: Where's the opposition on this? Why aren't they running this
- 14:56Speaker 8: in the parliament? Why aren't they running it? Why are
- 14:58Speaker 8: the journalists having to do it?
- 15:01Speaker 1: Well, there is that too, And when you say journalists,
- 15:04Speaker 1: you exclude ABC journalists. They don't want to run with this.
- 15:08Speaker 1: The Australian is doing most of it. Here in Sky
- 15:11Speaker 1: we've been doing it and I think to GB and
- 15:13Speaker 1: then almost you draw a line. Mcameron. You wrote a
- 15:20Speaker 1: really interesting column for The Nightly saying, look, Susan Lee
- 15:23Speaker 1: finished replacer with Josh Fredenberg, the former Treasurer who's not
- 15:28Speaker 1: even in Parliament. But that shouldn't stop him being may
- 15:33Speaker 1: not have to stop him being drafted. I have to
- 15:36Speaker 1: say I thought Susan Lee was a bit better today.
- 15:40Speaker 1: You know, she's give her credit. She's got the Liberals
- 15:44Speaker 1: to junk and at zero target that's so disastrous. And
- 15:48Speaker 1: today she and the energy spokesman tried to turn the
- 15:52Speaker 1: attack onto labor. Here they are.
- 15:55Speaker 3: What we need to hear from the government is what
- 15:58Speaker 3: is the cost of your net zero by twenty to
- 16:01Speaker 3: fifty plan.
- 16:02Speaker 1: You're in barking on this pursuit.
- 16:05Speaker 3: You tell us what the costs are because those costs
- 16:08Speaker 3: have been hidden.
- 16:09Speaker 4: The main question the Prime Minister needs to answer when
- 16:13Speaker 4: our electricity price is coming down, Prime Minister. And every
- 16:16Speaker 4: time our friends in the media have an opportunity to
- 16:19Speaker 4: ask the Prime Minister or his ministers this question, they
- 16:22Speaker 4: absolutely musked when our electricity prices coming down?
- 16:27Speaker 1: Cameron, are you giving Susan Lee extra marks for coming
- 16:31Speaker 1: out a bit stronger this week. Well, no, unfortunately, Andrew.
- 16:34Speaker 3: I mean I think the thing is that she has
- 16:36Speaker 3: brought kicking and screaming to the position on net zero.
- 16:38Speaker 3: I mean the conservatives of the Liberal Party actually brought
- 16:41Speaker 3: it to the brought to the situation, not her moderate mates.
- 16:44Speaker 3: So no, and Labour's been a target rich environment since
- 16:47Speaker 3: the election, and she hasn't laid a punch on them,
- 16:49Speaker 3: hasn't laid a love on them. So look, one good
- 16:51Speaker 3: press conference does not make a good campaign, certainly doesn't
- 16:53Speaker 3: make a good leader. And I think the Liberals have
- 16:55Speaker 3: got the message now, they just need to get the
- 16:57Speaker 3: right messenger. And I think all options need to be
- 16:59Speaker 3: on the table. As I said Josh Fredenberg, I think
- 17:02Speaker 3: is the best and brightest the Liberals could actually call
- 17:04Speaker 3: for right now.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Hmm Michael Kossa.
- 17:10Speaker 8: Look, Andrew, I said, when they drop net zero, and
- 17:13Speaker 8: of course you know my position. I don't support nets zero,
- 17:16Speaker 8: never have That was the easy part. Look, they need
- 17:19Speaker 8: to come up with alternatives. I mean, you know, yes,
- 17:22Speaker 8: they can say what's the cost of this, but people
- 17:24Speaker 8: aren't buying it. You know, built into the system are
- 17:27Speaker 8: all of these middle class subsidies for solar panels and batteries.
- 17:32Speaker 8: There's inn generational welfare transfer going on here between you know,
- 17:36Speaker 8: the wealthy baby boomans and those people that are unfortunately
- 17:40Speaker 8: in rent all accommodation to car buy a home because
- 17:42Speaker 8: of this government's policies. And they really need to come up.
- 17:45Speaker 8: But what's their alternative? I mean, what are they going
- 17:47Speaker 8: to cut? Which transmission line, Which subsidy are they going
- 17:51Speaker 8: to cut? I mean, this is the hard end politics
- 17:53Speaker 8: of this that I don't think they've thought of. And
- 17:55Speaker 8: just on the other point, you know, the fact of
- 17:57Speaker 8: the matter is in New South Wales and Queensland this
- 18:00Speaker 8: we're all supporting the coalition net zero. So you know
- 18:03Speaker 8: you've got a dog's breakfast of a policy going on
- 18:05Speaker 8: with the Coalition of the moment, and in that environment,
- 18:08Speaker 8: I don't think they're going to get a cut through,
- 18:09Speaker 8: and they're not going to get a cut through with
- 18:10Speaker 8: this leader.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Ah but camera and having made the decision, they've got
- 18:15Speaker 1: to argue for it. And I don't really get you know,
- 18:19Speaker 1: what is the what are the liberals going to do?
- 18:21Speaker 1: What are the liberals going to do? Where are the deed? Look,
- 18:23Speaker 1: the government is absolutely united, It's got a policy, and
- 18:26Speaker 1: it's absolutely a dog's breakfast, creating chaos and pain around
- 18:29Speaker 1: the land. I mean, how about looking at that. Well,
- 18:33Speaker 1: that's right, Andrew.
- 18:33Speaker 3: But the Liberals have finally, I think, got some comparing
- 18:36Speaker 3: contrast I mean, you know, dumping that zero gives them
- 18:39Speaker 3: something to actually work with. Finally, like this, rather being
- 18:41Speaker 3: me too with albow, they've actually got some comparing contrasts.
- 18:45Speaker 1: And you and I have discussed this, Andrew.
- 18:46Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they've actually got a position now.
- 18:49Speaker 3: I think they've just got to get the right messenger.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Well, I think that's right, but it's got to be
- 18:54Speaker 1: a messenger of conviction. And on net zero, I don't
- 18:57Speaker 1: think Josh Frodenberg is that messenger conviction. But you know,
- 19:02Speaker 1: a lot of water under the bridge, a lot of
- 19:03Speaker 1: people have been changing their mind. Maybe he'll change he is.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Michael Costa, Cameron Milner, thank you very much to you both.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Thank you well oury Safety commissioner. She tried to censor
- 19:16Speaker 1: the world and this could now backfire badly. I'm talking
- 19:21Speaker 1: about Commissioner Julie in Mangrant. We've talked about it before.
- 19:24Speaker 1: She's been called to appear now before the United States
- 19:28Speaker 1: Congress appear over the next two weeks to explain why
- 19:32Speaker 1: she is issuing worldwide takedown notices to social media giants
- 19:38Speaker 1: that are headquartered in America. Now, this is news broken
- 19:42Speaker 1: by Sky News as Caroline Marcus Jim Jordan, a close
- 19:46Speaker 1: ally of US President Donald Trump, chairman of the US
- 19:50Speaker 1: House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary, he has sent
- 19:54Speaker 1: in Mongrant a letter. He's called her a zenot for
- 19:58Speaker 1: global takedowns and said out were a threat to the
- 20:01Speaker 1: free speech of Americans. Nev Mongrant has indeed tried to
- 20:05Speaker 1: bully X into taking down video worldwide of a Christian
- 20:09Speaker 1: bishop is Sydney allegedly being stabbed by a sixteen year
- 20:12Speaker 1: old boy who please say was motivated by religious extremism,
- 20:16Speaker 1: and also a video by a Canadian who opposed the
- 20:20Speaker 1: appointment of Australian transgender activist Teddy Cook to a World
- 20:25Speaker 1: Health Organization panel. Joining me is Rohn, Dean, Edit and
- 20:27Speaker 1: Chief of The Spectator Australia, host of Outsiders every Sunday
- 20:31Speaker 1: at nine am and host of his own show on
- 20:34Speaker 1: Fridays at seven pm. Rowan, thanks great to see you again. Look,
- 20:39Speaker 1: it seems that here we have American politicians caring more
- 20:44Speaker 1: about censorship by an Australian official than our own government does.
- 20:50Speaker 9: Yes, well, Andrew, I hate to say I told you so,
- 20:53Speaker 9: but I did tell you so, and I told all
- 20:56Speaker 9: the Sky's viewers so a year ago, when this legislation
- 20:59Speaker 9: was passed bringing in the under sixteen year old ban,
- 21:03Speaker 9: which with disgracefully coalition approval and support, that the only
- 21:09Speaker 9: people who could save us from this insanity would be
- 21:11Speaker 9: the Americans, and that it would be the Trump administration
- 21:14Speaker 9: who would ride to our rescue. And I've been saying
- 21:16Speaker 9: that repeatedly for the last year because Albanezi and Peter
- 21:21Speaker 9: Dutton set us on a collision course with Trump's administration
- 21:26Speaker 9: over the issue of free speech. They did it knowingly
- 21:30Speaker 9: because we'd already had JD Vance, We'd already had Marco
- 21:33Speaker 9: Rubio tick off, particularly Jdvance. He went to Europe and
- 21:37Speaker 9: spoke about it. But other members of the Trump administration
- 21:39Speaker 9: had done the same thing and made it crystal clear
- 21:43Speaker 9: that the Trump administration will not tolerate its allies, or
- 21:47Speaker 9: its friends, or its business partners trampling all over Americans
- 21:51Speaker 9: free speech. The First Amendment. They made a crystal clear
- 21:54Speaker 9: They told the European Union in no uncertain terms. So
- 21:57Speaker 9: it was absolutely obvious that we were on a collision
- 22:01Speaker 9: course with our under sixteen social media ban. It's come
- 22:06Speaker 9: sooner than I thought it would come. I thought it
- 22:07Speaker 9: would come once the mayhem begins on December tenth, when
- 22:11Speaker 9: this country is going to try and enforce people to
- 22:15Speaker 9: not have social media accounts under some bizarre rules that
- 22:18Speaker 9: even the Australian government doesn't understand and can't explain, and
- 22:21Speaker 9: certainly the e Safety Commissioner hasn't got a clue about.
- 22:24Speaker 9: She can't explain it, and cened estimates what's actually going
- 22:27Speaker 9: to happen. So we're flying into a bizarre world where
- 22:30Speaker 9: we're imposing some draconian sort of censorship laws which will
- 22:35Speaker 9: either go one of two ways andrew Either they will
- 22:37Speaker 9: be ineffectual and the kids will just work their way
- 22:39Speaker 9: around it with VPNs or v whatever they're called. The
- 22:42Speaker 9: kids will figure it out, or they'll be so severe
- 22:45Speaker 9: and so strict and so draconian that you, me and
- 22:48Speaker 9: every other Internet user will be going what on earth
- 22:51Speaker 9: is happening here, and they'll be forced to back down.
- 22:53Speaker 9: So the reality is the Americans are coming to our
- 22:55Speaker 9: rescue because Julie in Mangrant cannot be trusted on free speech.
- 22:59Speaker 9: He's made a crystal clue. She stood up at the
- 23:01Speaker 9: World Economic Forum and said that rules around free speech
- 23:04Speaker 9: would have to change now because of social media. When
- 23:07Speaker 9: quizzed about Australia and free speech in Australia, she said, well,
- 23:11Speaker 9: Australia doesn't have what America has, the First Amendment, So
- 23:14Speaker 9: that's hunky dory.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Let's off we go like it was a bad sorry
- 23:21Speaker 1: and King rather yeah, she said it like it was
- 23:24Speaker 1: a good thing that we didn't have free speech laws.
- 23:26Speaker 1: I mean, oh, for goodness sake, Rowan's it's the pressing
- 23:30Speaker 1: of the nanny state. I mean, what happened to the
- 23:33Speaker 1: rugged Australia. You know, she'll be right and all that
- 23:35Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I don't get it. But Rowan, here's
- 23:38Speaker 1: another thing. I don't get. Why it is that so
- 23:43Speaker 1: few reporters call out the governments that zero plans a disaster. All. Oh,
- 23:48Speaker 1: the liberals have got a dog's breakfast of a policy.
- 23:50Speaker 1: They don't see that the labor policy is causing a
- 23:54Speaker 1: dog's breakfast in the real world. Now. On Monday, I
- 23:58Speaker 1: read headlines like this about a new US report by
- 24:01Speaker 1: gas and electricity suppliers energy giants back debt zero as
- 24:06Speaker 1: coalition reignites climate war. And that's as if you know,
- 24:10Speaker 1: net zero is the cheapest way to go, just like
- 24:12Speaker 1: the Albeneze government claims. But the Energy boss is quoted
- 24:15Speaker 1: inside this report Rowan, I'm pretty sure you had to
- 24:17Speaker 1: look at it too. In a report by the Australian
- 24:19Speaker 1: Energy Council gave a very different and alarming picture. For instance,
- 24:24Speaker 1: this extraordinary mission one of so many in this report
- 24:28Speaker 1: about the move to wind and solar. It's one of
- 24:30Speaker 1: the biggest things, one of these chief executives says. One
- 24:33Speaker 1: of the biggest things Australia is trying to do is
- 24:35Speaker 1: such a short space of time and having no thought through,
- 24:40Speaker 1: detailed plan on how to achieve it, the cost of
- 24:44Speaker 1: doing it and your backup plan when things don't go
- 24:48Speaker 1: your way, as they invariably don't, is probably going to
- 24:51Speaker 1: halt the transition at some point in time. But the
- 24:53Speaker 1: next three to four years, when the populace go hell no,
- 24:57Speaker 1: can't afford it zero thing is a disaster. But the
- 25:02Speaker 1: message still isn't getting out in the media.
- 25:06Speaker 9: It's not Andrew and now I'm going to say, you
- 25:08Speaker 9: told us so. You've been telling people in your columns
- 25:11Speaker 9: and on this show for decades that this thing was
- 25:14Speaker 9: a disaster, it was unaffordable. That there's so much about
- 25:18Speaker 9: the climate change myth hoax. I call it scam. Donald
- 25:22Speaker 9: Trump calls it whatever you want. That does not justify
- 25:26Speaker 9: the vast sums of money that must be spent if
- 25:30Speaker 9: we are to achieve what the climate zelots say has
- 25:34Speaker 9: to be achieved. Right now, at the moment in Bellm
- 25:36Speaker 9: and Brazil are all sitting around nearly five hundred Australians
- 25:39Speaker 9: on the taxpare dime discussing saving the planet from climate change.
- 25:45Speaker 9: This thing is so embedded in our system. You have
- 25:49Speaker 9: Anthony Albineasi saying, oh, the independent this and the independent
- 25:52Speaker 9: body and that have said, oh, oh no, it's the
- 25:54Speaker 9: cheapest thing to do.
- 25:55Speaker 14: We know.
- 25:56Speaker 9: All we have to do is look at our electricity bill.
- 25:59Speaker 9: All we have to do is look at the price
- 26:01Speaker 9: of every single product on the supermarket shelves to know
- 26:06Speaker 9: that our energy has gone up and up and shows
- 26:08Speaker 9: no sign of coming down in price. And we haven't
- 26:11Speaker 9: even scratched the surface of what the climate Zelet's say
- 26:15Speaker 9: has to be achieved. We're right at the very very
- 26:18Speaker 9: beginning of this so called process, which involves in the future,
- 26:22Speaker 9: what we eat, how we travel, where we travel, how
- 26:25Speaker 9: often we travel, what we spend our money on, whether
- 26:28Speaker 9: we can do this, whether we can do that, whether
- 26:30Speaker 9: we're can to ehat our home, et cetera, et cetera,
- 26:32Speaker 9: our farming, every aspect of transportation, our agriculture. They have
- 26:38Speaker 9: already told us and warned us that if we go
- 26:41Speaker 9: down this path, we're going to have no meat to eat.
- 26:43Speaker 9: We're going to be eating bugs, They've already told us.
- 26:45Speaker 9: But traveling more than fifteen minutes from time, they keep
- 26:49Speaker 9: telling us, and we refuse to listen. But it is
- 26:52Speaker 9: there the truth, and the truth is that it is
- 26:55Speaker 9: simply not affordable, even remotely. We're talking truly millions of
- 27:00Speaker 9: dollars that the world does not have to meet the fantasy.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Hang on, there, have you noticed rowan that indeed a
- 27:10Speaker 1: collective of scientists academics, including from America, put a report
- 27:17Speaker 1: net zero. Australia put out a report a couple of
- 27:20Speaker 1: years ago saying the transition to net zero will cost
- 27:24Speaker 1: Australia between seven eight nine up to nine trillion dollars. Well,
- 27:31Speaker 1: since people have been making hay like that, as you
- 27:33Speaker 1: just have, as I have, as the nationals have, they say, oh,
- 27:37Speaker 1: oh no, it's not that much. It's actually three hundred
- 27:40Speaker 1: billion dollars pittance, and then the agency's running with this.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Do you know how they get to that figure among
- 27:48Speaker 1: other sort of assumptions. You've got to imagine that all
- 27:53Speaker 1: our oil and gas, someone is going to invent a
- 27:58Speaker 1: green substitute right for all that that doesn't exist, and
- 28:03Speaker 1: they're going to invest all the money in doing that
- 28:06Speaker 1: in Australia. I mean, really that people fought the ABC
- 28:10Speaker 1: falls for it. Rowan, sorry about that rant, but I'm.
- 28:16Speaker 9: The world's finally waking up. At least the liberals and
- 28:19Speaker 9: the Coalition have woken up.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Rown Deine, thank you so much. After the break, the
- 28:27Speaker 1: new apartheid, I'm afraid strikes again. The state forest is
- 28:30Speaker 1: shut off and given to traditional owners. You know, our
- 28:38Speaker 1: new apartheid. It just keeps marching along. But how is
- 28:42Speaker 1: this making Australia better? More united? This time a new
- 28:46Speaker 1: South Wales state forest, the Vungabie State Forest, about nine
- 28:51Speaker 1: hundred and fifty hectares northwest of Lismore. It's been closed
- 28:55Speaker 1: off and then handed over to traditional average loners, even
- 28:59Speaker 1: though native title had been extinguished. This is a forest
- 29:03Speaker 1: that's been enjoyed by cyclists and walkers and drivers and
- 29:08Speaker 1: four wheel bike riders and more. Joining me is geologist
- 29:12Speaker 1: Mark Hendricks who's been campaigning for years for the right
- 29:15Speaker 1: to claim Oolaru and mountains that have been banned for
- 29:18Speaker 1: Aboriginal cultural reasons. Mark Hendrix, thank you so much for
- 29:24Speaker 1: your time. Why was this state forest turned over to
- 29:27Speaker 1: traditional owners.
- 29:29Speaker 15: This is a small state forest, as you say, Andrew,
- 29:32Speaker 15: in northern New South Wales. Prior to these recent events,
- 29:36Speaker 15: as you showed in the videos, as used by four
- 29:39Speaker 15: drive recreational groups, trailbike riders, bushwalkers, families going camping. It
- 29:45Speaker 15: was also a working hardwood forest. So just recently is
- 29:50Speaker 15: twenty twenty, there were some plans to log a couple
- 29:54Speaker 15: of coops in the forest area. These were blocked by
- 29:57Speaker 15: the plants. To log those coops were blocked by conserv groups,
- 30:01Speaker 15: so the government listened to them, the conservation groups over
- 30:04Speaker 15: the local community, over the adjacent property owners. So it's
- 30:08Speaker 15: a working forest that was bringing benefit to the whole
- 30:11Speaker 15: of the community as a result of native titles settlement,
- 30:16Speaker 15: the state government previous liberal state government set up an
- 30:19Speaker 15: Indigenous land use agreement which included handing over the state
- 30:23Speaker 15: forests to It's a group with a bit of a
- 30:26Speaker 15: mouthful of a name, so it's going to read it out.
- 30:28Speaker 15: It's the wigebal Weable Gummorable Aboriginal Corporation, Registered Native Title
- 30:34Speaker 15: Body Corporate. So this is the group that we'll get
- 30:38Speaker 15: ownership of the state forest and will effectively become private
- 30:41Speaker 15: property under their ownership.
- 30:45Speaker 1: And already it's been closed to traffic. But I don't
- 30:48Speaker 1: get I mean the native title on that strip was
- 30:50Speaker 1: already extinguished by the fact that it was the clearest
- 30:52Speaker 1: state forest, etc. You know why it now has to
- 30:58Speaker 1: be given to one and not enjoyed by everyone. That
- 31:02Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as quite fair or useful and pleasant.
- 31:07Speaker 1: What is the what are the chances that locals still
- 31:10Speaker 1: can use it in some form?
- 31:13Speaker 5: Loo.
- 31:13Speaker 15: Look, this is going to be passed through an active legislation,
- 31:16Speaker 15: So that's that's what's coming up. Probably in the next
- 31:18Speaker 15: six months or so. An Act of Parliament will go
- 31:20Speaker 15: through to transfer the landownership to the Aboriginal Corporation, who
- 31:24Speaker 15: will gain private property over it. It will effectively be
- 31:29Speaker 15: you know, if you go in there, you'll be charged
- 31:32Speaker 15: with trespass potentially. On the plus side, perhaps I could
- 31:37Speaker 15: probably see the opportunities for this corporation to maybe open
- 31:40Speaker 15: up a four war drive park or perhaps the trail
- 31:43Speaker 15: riding center, or you know, maybe they'll look at relogging
- 31:47Speaker 15: some of those forests to bring in some money to
- 31:49Speaker 15: pay for the maintenance of the tracks. Or perhaps this.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Is quite a few but was free. Yeah, but absolutely
- 31:57Speaker 1: what you must pay for. Mark before you go. You're
- 32:04Speaker 1: holding a competition for your group, Save absolutely Summits. You've
- 32:08Speaker 1: been on the show so often. I've got to give
- 32:12Speaker 1: you the chance to thank you Andrew twenty second plug
- 32:15Speaker 1: for the fundraisers, So go.
- 32:18Speaker 15: Save our summits. So we are holding our second photo
- 32:21Speaker 15: competition on Australia Day, January twenty six, twenty twenty six.
- 32:25Speaker 15: All we have to do is head out into the bush,
- 32:28Speaker 15: head out to a mountain summit, take a photo of yourself,
- 32:30Speaker 15: your family, your friends, make sure you show that great
- 32:34Speaker 15: Australian flag and send that entry into the Save Out
- 32:38Speaker 15: Summit's Fakebook Facebook page and it will be considered for
- 32:42Speaker 15: one of the prizes we've got we've got prizes totaling
- 32:44Speaker 15: one thousand dollars. So it's a really good opportunity to
- 32:46Speaker 15: go out enjoy Australia Day in the great Australian outdoors
- 32:50Speaker 15: and make yourself some money potentially.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Kendrick, thank you as always, thank you en after the break,
- 32:57Speaker 1: the Liberals really want One Nation voters to come back
- 33:01Speaker 1: to them first day of course, says you know they've
- 33:05Speaker 1: scrapped at zero now a move that Pauline Hanson thinks
- 33:09Speaker 1: it is just two week.
- 33:11Speaker 11: Just bring it down to one hundred and thirty thousand
- 33:13Speaker 11: a year. Then let's review it in a few years time.
- 33:16Speaker 11: Make sure that people are getting the services that we
- 33:19Speaker 11: require to give them a decent stand of living a
- 33:22Speaker 11: way of life.
- 33:27Speaker 1: Now, two issues, especially killing the federal Liberals cost them
- 33:31Speaker 1: a cord of their support, most of which has gone
- 33:34Speaker 1: to One Nation instead. One was going along with Labour's
- 33:37Speaker 1: and net zero missions target in my opinion that's now
- 33:39Speaker 1: being junked. And the other is, of course mass immigration.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Will the Liberals now say they'll cut mass immigration as well?
- 33:47Speaker 1: I mean you just heard Pauline hands and saying, oh
- 33:49Speaker 1: well it should be cut one hundred and thirty. The
- 33:51Speaker 1: Liberals haven't been that bold. In fact, they haven't even
- 33:54Speaker 1: released the plan or a target. They just issued principles.
- 33:57Speaker 1: But Leads suggests that they don't want well, not undred
- 34:00Speaker 1: and thirty, they want two hundred and twenty thousand ned
- 34:03Speaker 1: overseas immigrants. Now that's still a hell of a lot.
- 34:07Speaker 1: But yes it's way down compared to what's we've been
- 34:11Speaker 1: getting under labor, but still nearly three times higher than
- 34:16Speaker 1: the average intake for half a century, which was just
- 34:19Speaker 1: over eighty thousand. His is in THEE today with a
- 34:22Speaker 1: response from the Prime Minister actually that I don't understand.
- 34:27Speaker 4: The migration numbers into Australia are far too high and
- 34:32Speaker 4: labor has got this all wrong.
- 34:33Speaker 12: Perhaps the policy has been written by kids. If you
- 34:36Speaker 12: go into a local school here, primary school, you'll have
- 34:40Speaker 12: local kids stand up and they'll say six seven, six seven,
- 34:44Speaker 12: it's a big thing.
- 34:45Speaker 8: Well six seven, what does it mean?
- 34:47Speaker 9: That means nothing?
- 34:50Speaker 1: Joining me is Leith and Nonslan, who has written extensively
- 34:53Speaker 1: on immigration and is co founder of the Excellent Macro
- 34:57Speaker 1: Business blog and Business and former Federal Treasury official Leith
- 35:03Speaker 1: and nonsenan thank you so much for your time, your
- 35:05Speaker 1: thoughts on the Liberals plans such as it is so far. Yeah,
- 35:10Speaker 1: thanks Andrew.
- 35:10Speaker 13: Look, it's an improvement on labors, but let's be honest,
- 35:13Speaker 13: two hundred thousand dead overseas migration is still extremely high.
- 35:17Speaker 13: It's just below the two hundred and twenty thousand average
- 35:20Speaker 13: net overseas migration that we had in the fifteen years
- 35:22Speaker 13: of Big Australia recorded before the pandemic. So the Liberals
- 35:26Speaker 13: basically just want to take us back to pre pandemic
- 35:28Speaker 13: levels of immigration, which, as I said, is still way
- 35:30Speaker 13: too high and it's still a recipe for massive population
- 35:34Speaker 13: growth and big Australia. But personally, i'd rather see dead
- 35:36Speaker 13: overseas migration cut to around one hundred and fifty thousand
- 35:39Speaker 13: or less, and that's pretty much in line with what
- 35:41Speaker 13: Peter Dutton was proposing at the last election. And we
- 35:45Speaker 13: should also focus that on genuine skills that the country
- 35:48Speaker 13: actually needs rather than more uber drivers. And we don't
- 35:52Speaker 13: have to look far to see other countries that have
- 35:53Speaker 13: done it. So Canada, which is pretty similar country to Australia,
- 35:57Speaker 13: they've actually implemented massive immigration reductions and there's no reason
- 36:01Speaker 13: why Australia can't emulate Canada and do the same thing.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Yeah, trust me, that's they keep saying. Oh, no, no,
- 36:07Speaker 1: we do have a very very targeted immigration program for
- 36:12Speaker 1: skilled workers. You look closer and most many of those
- 36:15Speaker 1: skilled workers aren't working in skilled jobs at all, or
- 36:18Speaker 1: they're not the jobs that they were. They said that
- 36:20Speaker 1: take if they came here. I mean, I don't know.
- 36:23Speaker 1: I feel the whole thing is as loose as anything. Yeah,
- 36:27Speaker 1: it is.
- 36:27Speaker 13: And another problem with it is, and this obviously gets
- 36:29Speaker 13: back to the housing thing. Out of the hundreds of
- 36:32Speaker 13: thousands of migrants that we bring in every year, very
- 36:34Speaker 13: few actually working construction. It's a tiny, tiny proportion. So
- 36:38Speaker 13: as a result, we're constantly increased in demand for housing infrastructure,
- 36:42Speaker 13: but we're not actually increasing the supply side of that
- 36:44Speaker 13: because the migrants that we're bringing in don't work in
- 36:46Speaker 13: those areas. So it's just a recipe for perpetual housing
- 36:50Speaker 13: shortages and perpetual infrastructure shortages.
- 36:55Speaker 1: Yeah. I heard someone from the government just the other
- 36:57Speaker 1: day say, oh, we need to we need all these
- 36:59Speaker 1: immigrant to come and build the houses that we desperately need.
- 37:02Speaker 1: I don't think they're building them. They're filling them, but
- 37:04Speaker 1: not building them. But speaking of that, that does immigration
- 37:08Speaker 1: does put more and more pressure on house process later
- 37:10Speaker 1: because oh you're picking on the immigrants, you know, trying
- 37:13Speaker 1: to serve up a resentment among immigrant communities. No, no,
- 37:17Speaker 1: we're just cause to supply and demand. There's a higher demand.
- 37:22Speaker 1: They all have to live somewhere. The Albanizi government says
- 37:24Speaker 1: it has a plan to build one point two million
- 37:28Speaker 1: homes in five years, but it's a really way behind
- 37:32Speaker 1: schedule and leath today. I'm sure you saw it the
- 37:35Speaker 1: Housing Industry Association. So the government have to build not
- 37:38Speaker 1: one point two million homes, but nearly two million before
- 37:42Speaker 1: someone on an average wage could even afford the price
- 37:45Speaker 1: of the average house. This is another disaster, isn't it.
- 37:49Speaker 13: Oh absolutely, it's a massive disaster.
- 37:51Speaker 1: And let's be honest.
- 37:51Speaker 13: This disaster was outlined explicitly by the latest report for
- 37:55Speaker 13: the National Houses Supply and Affordability Council, which is the
- 37:57Speaker 13: federal government's own advisory council on affordability in supply. And
- 38:01Speaker 13: this report was released a few months back, and it's
- 38:04Speaker 13: showed that Australia's facing a shortage of homes over the
- 38:07Speaker 13: five years of twenty twenty nine of seventy nine thousand.
- 38:10Speaker 13: Now that's on top of Australia's existing housing shortage of
- 38:13Speaker 13: about two hundred thousand. And the thing about these forecasts, Andrews,
- 38:17Speaker 13: is that they're actually based on fairly conservative immigration numbers,
- 38:21Speaker 13: and the National has in Supplying Affordability Council forecast that
- 38:24Speaker 13: if the population grows by fifteen percent faster than is
- 38:28Speaker 13: forecast by Treasury, which seems very likely based on the
- 38:31Speaker 13: immigration settings that we've got, that our shortage will actually
- 38:34Speaker 13: worsen by two hundred thousand over the next five years.
- 38:37Speaker 13: So that means we'll have accumulative shortage of about four
- 38:40Speaker 13: hundred thousand by twenty twenty nine. So it's a total disaster.
- 38:43Speaker 13: It's been brought about by excessive levels of immigration. It
- 38:46Speaker 13: also highlights why immigration must be cut to balance to
- 38:49Speaker 13: mardw with supply, because if we don't do it, this
- 38:51Speaker 13: housing shortage is just going to keep getting worse.
- 38:55Speaker 1: Yes, but it's feeding into the tendency now of both
- 39:00Speaker 1: sides increasing. The Liberals are doing it too a panditty
- 39:03Speaker 1: immigrant communities. By saying no no extra immigration does not
- 39:07Speaker 1: put pressure on the house. We've just got to boost supply.
- 39:10Speaker 1: I mean, it's just such a fraud, and I wonder
- 39:13Speaker 1: if you know we can ever dig our way out
- 39:15Speaker 1: of it at this rate. Leave for nonsenan. Thank you
- 39:18Speaker 1: so much, a deed for your time, Thanks Andrew. After
- 39:23Speaker 1: the break, Donald Trump, under pressure, lashes out a journalist
- 39:27Speaker 1: as he sinks in the polls, calling one woman piggy
- 39:30Speaker 1: and then blasting another, pointing out he was sitting next
- 39:33Speaker 1: to and accused murderer a very rich one. Donald Trump
- 39:40Speaker 1: could maybe get away with this rudeness when you look
- 39:42Speaker 1: like a winner. Now his poles of sunk, it looks
- 39:44Speaker 1: really a bit desperate. For instance, here how Trump abused
- 39:49Speaker 1: the journalist, the woman who'd asked him why I'd been
- 39:51Speaker 1: refusing to release secret files. And Jeffrey Epstein, the dead pedophile.
- 40:00Speaker 16: Respecting built Clack, respected the head of Harmer, respected people
- 40:06Speaker 16: they have plenty, JP Mornan.
- 40:08Speaker 1: Jews quiet piggy to a female journalist, that's scummy. As
- 40:20Speaker 1: I mentioned yesterday, Trump has changed his mind. Order the
- 40:22Speaker 1: files released. That's a victory for a long term Trump
- 40:26Speaker 1: support of major Taylor Green. Trump last weekend called trader
- 40:30Speaker 1: Green for demanding the files release.
- 40:33Speaker 17: And he called me a trader for standing with these
- 40:36Speaker 17: women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition.
- 40:40Speaker 17: Let me tell you what a trader is. A trader
- 40:43Speaker 17: is a is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves.
- 40:50Speaker 17: A patriot is an American that serves the United States
- 40:54Speaker 17: of America and Americans. Like the women standing behind.
- 40:58Speaker 1: Me, seemed to dig at something else Trump has just done.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Seven years ago, Saudi journalists and dissident Jamal Kashoki, linked
- 41:06Speaker 1: to the Extremesmooslon brotherhood, walked into the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Never came out again, not in one piece anyway. The
- 41:15Speaker 1: US Director of National Intelligence said it strongly believed that
- 41:19Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Muhammad bin Sulman approved an operation
- 41:23Speaker 1: to kill the Saudi journalist Kamel Jamal Kashoggi and sent
- 41:28Speaker 1: his personal bodyguard to do it. But now the Prince
- 41:31Speaker 1: is the de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia and is
- 41:34Speaker 1: in Washington right now to a hero's welcome, after buying
- 41:37Speaker 1: American F thirty five jets and promising Trump to increase
- 41:40Speaker 1: Saudi investments in the US through a trillion dollars and
- 41:43Speaker 1: to Trump, money turns the murderer into a saint, so
- 41:47Speaker 1: he monstered another female reporter for asking about Koushoki's killing.
- 41:52Speaker 18: Your Royal Highness, the US Intelligence concluded that you orchestrated
- 41:56Speaker 18: the brutal murder of a journalist.
- 41:57Speaker 9: Nine eleven families are furious that you are.
- 42:00Speaker 7: You're in the ol.
- 42:04Speaker 1: Who you were with?
- 42:06Speaker 19: Who fakeness ANBC fakeness one.
- 42:09Speaker 1: Of the worst, one of the worst of the is.
- 42:11Speaker 1: But I'll ask you a question.
- 42:13Speaker 19: As far as this gentleman is concerned, he's done a
- 42:16Speaker 19: phenomenal job. You're mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial. A
- 42:20Speaker 19: lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about,
- 42:23Speaker 19: whether you like him or didn't like him. Things happened,
- 42:26Speaker 19: but he knew nothing about it, and we can leave
- 42:28Speaker 19: it at that. You don't have to embarrass our guests
- 42:30Speaker 19: by asking a question like that.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Well, things happen. That's a murder. Things happen. Joining me
- 42:38Speaker 1: a Gematonini columnists and communications consultant skyne Is contributed. Louise
- 42:43Speaker 1: Roberts Jimmy America used to at least pretend it defended
- 42:47Speaker 1: good governance democracy rule of law around the world. It
- 42:50Speaker 1: was from just being honest and saying, well, who cares
- 42:53Speaker 1: as long as there's a deal in it for the US?
- 42:56Speaker 16: Oh I do.
- 42:56Speaker 14: I don't think you were saying who cares? I think
- 42:59Speaker 14: let's not be quaint and revisionist here and act as
- 43:02Speaker 14: if you know the world of international politics at that
- 43:06Speaker 14: level is pure white and unsolid. And there's a part
- 43:08Speaker 14: of this.
- 43:09Speaker 9: Story that.
- 43:11Speaker 14: You know, the phrase that really is at the center
- 43:15Speaker 14: of it. And please don't hear what I'm not saying.
- 43:17Speaker 14: I'm not saying this is an excuse, but links to
- 43:20Speaker 14: the Muslim Brotherhood is a dangerous Those are dangerous links
- 43:24Speaker 14: to have, Andrew. And I'm not suggesting for a minute
- 43:29Speaker 14: that any ends justify means. But when President Trump says
- 43:34Speaker 14: blithely and clumsily that things happen if you play in
- 43:37Speaker 14: that space, and I don't for a very good reason.
- 43:41Speaker 14: If you play in that space, it comes with significant risk.
- 43:45Speaker 14: And to not acknowledge that in the context of what
- 43:48Speaker 14: went on is disingenuous. As for his response to that journalist,
- 43:54Speaker 14: you know, what else did anyone expect? Again, I'm not
- 43:59Speaker 14: justifying it or whatever.
- 44:00Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, yeah, I hear what you're saying.
- 44:04Speaker 1: But Louise, you know it's interesting, isn't it. Maybe Trump
- 44:08Speaker 1: is simply being honest where other former presses they ordered
- 44:12Speaker 1: the same thing, assassinate Osama bin Lad and all that
- 44:15Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Fair enough, but just didn't, you know,
- 44:19Speaker 1: say so what sort of as Trump did? Well.
- 44:23Speaker 5: I think insulting female journalists is not on, But I
- 44:26Speaker 5: do feel that Trump is a equal opportunity right insulter.
- 44:30Speaker 5: I think he'll have a crack at a male journalist
- 44:32Speaker 5: or a female journalist if he doesn't like their line
- 44:34Speaker 5: of questioning all says it's fake news or whatever. But
- 44:37Speaker 5: I did wander around the coziness with the Saudis, how
- 44:41Speaker 5: his sort of core voter group would feel about this,
- 44:43Speaker 5: the rust belt as it were, because look, he could
- 44:46Speaker 5: argue that nine to eleven was a generation ago because
- 44:49Speaker 5: it was twenty four years ago, but those wounds still
- 44:51Speaker 5: run very deep. And when you consider that fifteen out
- 44:54Speaker 5: of the nineteen terrorists were Saudi's and the Saudi government
- 44:58Speaker 5: was maybe INMPL Caterd never proven. I do think that's
- 45:03Speaker 5: an optics issue for the president for his kind of
- 45:06Speaker 5: call voters. But what it does prove to Jem's point
- 45:09Speaker 5: as well, and to your point is that this is
- 45:11Speaker 5: a president who puts American interests first no matter what,
- 45:15Speaker 5: so he will find a way to push America forward,
- 45:18Speaker 5: even if his critics are saying it's not good to
- 45:20Speaker 5: be closing up to the Saudis and certainly not good
- 45:22Speaker 5: to be insulting female journalists.
- 45:24Speaker 1: I think you're right. Let me just underline what you
- 45:27Speaker 1: just said that you know we're calling one journalist, the
- 45:29Speaker 1: female journalist piggy. I think it's just that is just crass, crude,
- 45:34Speaker 1: out of order. I've got to ask you about this, Jem.
- 45:39Speaker 1: Michelle Obama, wife of another president, a bit of a
- 45:42Speaker 1: sulky race warrior, promoting the latest book, blamed white people
- 45:46Speaker 1: for Black Americans not going to the gym or learning
- 45:49Speaker 1: to swim. He issues.
- 45:52Speaker 18: Let me explain something to wait people. Our hair comes
- 45:57Speaker 18: out of our head naturally in a curly pawer, so
- 46:00Speaker 18: when we're straightening it to follow your beauty standards, we
- 46:04Speaker 18: are trapped by the straightness. That's why so many of
- 46:08Speaker 18: us can't swim and we run away from the water.
- 46:13Speaker 18: People won't go to the gym because we're trying to
- 46:16Speaker 18: keep our hair straight.
- 46:17Speaker 1: For y'all, Jimmy, do you feel sorry for Michelle Obama,
- 46:23Speaker 1: the wife of a former president, being forced by whites
- 46:26Speaker 1: to straighten her hair and so she's too scared to
- 46:30Speaker 1: go streaming.
- 46:31Speaker 9: I thought that was satire.
- 46:33Speaker 14: I honestly, when I first read this read that story,
- 46:36Speaker 14: I thought it was comedy or she was trying to
- 46:38Speaker 14: be funny. And I'm still not convinced that she's not
- 46:41Speaker 14: trying to be funny, because that's just the most ridiculous
- 46:44Speaker 14: parlor clap trap I've ever heard. Like, you know, no
- 46:46Speaker 14: one's she's sitting there on that stage with her hair straight.
- 46:49Speaker 14: No one's holding a gun to her head and sang a,
- 46:51Speaker 14: shall Obama straight in your hair? Do you know what, Andrew?
- 46:54Speaker 14: My hair is not naturally straight.
- 46:56Speaker 9: I'll give you the tip.
- 46:57Speaker 14: And for those playing along at home, it's also naturally
- 47:00Speaker 14: I have dark, curly Italian hair, and I choose to
- 47:07Speaker 14: engage in the media environment, which necessitates me not looking
- 47:13Speaker 14: like a wookie on any given days. So I have
- 47:16Speaker 14: my hair. That is not oppression. That's not cultural oppression.
- 47:20Speaker 14: I'm not being forced to conform to any cultural norms.
- 47:25Speaker 14: I mean, that's just nonsense. I've never I mean, I'm
- 47:28Speaker 14: hopeful choice actually trying to be funny.
- 47:30Speaker 1: Is this is this is exactly the thing, Louise. You know,
- 47:36Speaker 1: here's a wife of a former president. So I mean, yeah,
- 47:42Speaker 1: oh look, you're forcing me to stretch you white hair.
- 47:46Speaker 1: I mean ridiculous, Really, Louise, there's no excuse for that.
- 47:50Speaker 5: No, no, not at all. Exactly what Jemma said. And
- 47:52Speaker 5: I mean, is she making her a civil rights issue now?
- 47:55Speaker 5: I mean she's basically saying that white people are responsible
- 47:59Speaker 5: for black people's beauty choices, which is, you know, we
- 48:03Speaker 5: can't flip it the other way. I mean that would
- 48:04Speaker 5: be a writer as well. But the thing I object
- 48:07Speaker 5: to with Michelle here is that she makes every platform,
- 48:10Speaker 5: and she's got a big global platform, big influence. She
- 48:13Speaker 5: doesn't say anything like that's common sense. She makes it
- 48:16Speaker 5: everything goes back to racism. Every slide, every inconvenience has
- 48:20Speaker 5: to have a racist undertoned to it. And he talks
- 48:22Speaker 5: to the average American, they don't feel this waste. But
- 48:25Speaker 5: she's gone off on this tangent and she could be
- 48:28Speaker 5: far more useful in this space rather than making it
- 48:31Speaker 5: a hair issue.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Oh how about saying isn't it great America where a
- 48:36Speaker 1: black woman can be the wife of a black president. Really, seriously,
- 48:41Speaker 1: Jim and Tonini, Luis Roberts, thank you very much to
- 48:43Speaker 1: you both. That's it, good night, Sherry Markson next