Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 472: Rut Fresh Radio 10/27/2021 - The Rutting Moon
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
- 0:05Speaker 1: the latest reports from the white tailed woods and now
- 0:08Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is Wired d Hunt's
- 0:16Speaker 1: rout Fresh Radio powered by First Light, and this week
- 0:19Speaker 1: we're covering the rutting move. This is Wired to Hunt's
- 0:37Speaker 1: rut Fresh Radio. And this is episode four hundred seventy
- 0:41Speaker 1: two and today I am joined by Mark Kenyon. And Mark,
- 0:44Speaker 1: you'll be happy to know that I had like my
- 0:46Speaker 1: first white tail action over the weekend. It's been a
- 0:49Speaker 1: long time coming for me this fall. Finally, yeah, finally,
- 0:53Speaker 1: I spent a couple of evenings glassing some pastures here
- 0:55Speaker 1: in Montana that will be deer hunting next week for
- 0:59Speaker 1: a thing that we're filled for Meat Eater and Wire
- 1:01Speaker 1: to Hunt. Um. And what I could say to summarize
- 1:05Speaker 1: the action was this, it was like textbook October twenty
- 1:09Speaker 1: four activity. Um doe started filing into the food for
- 1:15Speaker 1: the like last two hours of daylight, and at like sunset,
- 1:20Speaker 1: finally the bucks started coming into the food as well
- 1:22Speaker 1: and increasingly got bigger as shooting light disappeared. And and
- 1:27Speaker 1: to me, that's just like textbook late October with no
- 1:31Speaker 1: outside um factors as far as hunting pressure or a
- 1:37Speaker 1: strange moon or really warm weather, really cold weather, or
- 1:40Speaker 1: anything like that. It just felt very much like late
- 1:44Speaker 1: October to me. And I guess what I think that
- 1:46Speaker 1: means is when I am hunting in a week, like
- 1:48Speaker 1: those bucks that were showing up at sunset are now
- 1:50Speaker 1: going to be showing up thirty minutes before sunset. And
- 1:53Speaker 1: uh instead of the biggest ones not rolling out until
- 1:56Speaker 1: a few minutes to shooting light left, they might be out,
- 1:59Speaker 1: you know, with thirty it's a shooting light left or
- 2:01Speaker 1: something like that. So it gives me some optimism, especially
- 2:04Speaker 1: when I look at the forecast and see some very
- 2:06Speaker 1: monotonous weather that we've been used to this fall as
- 2:10Speaker 1: white tail hunters. And I think you were also out
- 2:13Speaker 1: this weekend or probably for the whole week. Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa,
- 2:17Speaker 1: whoa whoa. Before before you go pushing to me, I
- 2:20Speaker 1: gotta find out, what did you see, Like, did you
- 2:22Speaker 1: see some shooters? I saw a buck that I would
- 2:26Speaker 1: identify as a shooter, probably like a hunter and thirty
- 2:30Speaker 1: five inch five by five um for Montana, it's probably
- 2:33Speaker 1: like a three and a half or four and a
- 2:35Speaker 1: half year old deer buck. I would totally shoot the
- 2:38Speaker 1: other bucks that I saw, Um, we're basket racks, spikes, um,
- 2:42Speaker 1: some like two and a half year old mule deer um.
- 2:46Speaker 1: So one one buck that got me excited that, Like
- 2:49Speaker 1: I said, he showed up very late into shooting light.
- 2:52Speaker 1: But I think a week from now he'll he'll be
- 2:53Speaker 1: out sooner than that. Cool. Well, you know, speaking of
- 2:56Speaker 1: this hunt, I think we can tease what we're doing.
- 3:00Speaker 1: I think at this point we should clue folks in
- 3:02Speaker 1: the fact that we've got a very cool project coming
- 3:05Speaker 1: up that we're gonna be filming and releasing as a
- 3:08Speaker 1: new show this fall, and it's gonna drop the first
- 3:13Speaker 1: episode in just a couple of weeks to maybe it's
- 3:16Speaker 1: maybe three weeks from now, give or take three weeks
- 3:19Speaker 1: from now. This new show is gonna drop. It is
- 3:22Speaker 1: going to be following you and me and Tony Peterson
- 3:28Speaker 1: and Clay Newcomb, and we're gonna be hunting white tails
- 3:32Speaker 1: in four different places across the country and combining our
- 3:37Speaker 1: four stories for this new series. Uh so, you're gonna
- 3:40Speaker 1: be in Montana, right, That's it's about your tomb. That's right.
- 3:43Speaker 1: I'll be in Montana, and if Montana happens faster, if
- 3:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop down to Wyoming and hunt there nice,
- 3:50Speaker 1: so I will be doing my hunt in Iowa. Folks
- 3:53Speaker 1: know I'm gonna hunting in Iowa. I'm gonna document that
- 3:55Speaker 1: hunt for this new project. And then if I kill there,
- 3:59Speaker 1: I'm gonna move over in Nebraska. And Clay is going
- 4:02Speaker 1: to be in Arkansas, and Tony is gonna be splitting
- 4:05Speaker 1: his time between Minnesota and Wisconsin. So super stoked about this.
- 4:09Speaker 1: We're gonna start hunting in a week. So I'm feeling good.
- 4:14Speaker 1: I feel like we're all going to be in good spots.
- 4:16Speaker 1: We've got some cool things lined up and uh and yes,
- 4:19Speaker 1: I'm glad you've got a nice big buck out there
- 4:21Speaker 1: to chase to Spencer, So fingers crossing sticks around, I'm thrilled.
- 4:25Speaker 1: It's It's one of the things that I love about
- 4:28Speaker 1: Red Fresh Radio was talking to hunters across the country
- 4:31Speaker 1: and having an audio experience that is, hearing from somebody
- 4:35Speaker 1: from Mississippi and New Jersey and Kansas in the same episode.
- 4:39Speaker 1: And that's sort of what you're going to have with
- 4:41Speaker 1: this new show. You're you're getting these different storylines with
- 4:44Speaker 1: different styles of hunting, with very different white tail herds
- 4:47Speaker 1: and very different tactics. Um and that to me is
- 4:50Speaker 1: like the most exciting part of the show. Can't wait,
- 4:54Speaker 1: it's uh I've actually I just unpacked from Arkansas, and
- 4:57Speaker 1: I realized right when I got done on acting that shoot,
- 5:01Speaker 1: I should just leave it all out because I don't
- 5:02Speaker 1: start repacking in like a day and a half anyway.
- 5:05Speaker 1: So it's here, man, it's gonna be in a minute.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Tell us, what were you gonna say before I interrupted? Yeah,
- 5:09Speaker 1: tell tell us about the Arkansas haunt as far as
- 5:12Speaker 1: buck movement goes. And then I think you also spent
- 5:14Speaker 1: some time in a tree in Michigan as well. Yeah,
- 5:17Speaker 1: so Arkansas was not a lot of activity, but I
- 5:21Speaker 1: think that was simply because where I was hunting was
- 5:23Speaker 1: public land, big woods, big mountains with very low deer densities.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Uh So, over the almost week of hunting I spent there,
- 5:32Speaker 1: you know, you know, I guess it was like four
- 5:34Speaker 1: and a half, four days or something. In the woods. Uh,
- 5:37Speaker 1: I just saw a handful of deer. There was very
- 5:39Speaker 1: little sign. There was a few rubs and one scrape,
- 5:43Speaker 1: and I think I saw like four dose and two
- 5:47Speaker 1: bucks the entire time, there was maybe some kind of
- 5:50Speaker 1: like cruising. I would say, if there's any kind of
- 5:52Speaker 1: sign or like any kind of activity of note, It
- 5:55Speaker 1: was the fact that there were two bucks that were
- 5:58Speaker 1: cruising in late morning, So that was that was kind
- 6:01Speaker 1: of the extent of related activity that I saw. The
- 6:04Speaker 1: full store of that hunt will drop later this year
- 6:08Speaker 1: on the podcast, so stay tuned for all the stories
- 6:10Speaker 1: on how that went down. But the very interesting unique
- 6:13Speaker 1: situation I've I haven't hunted this kind of way before,
- 6:16Speaker 1: so it's very cool to give it a shot. Uh.
- 6:19Speaker 1: And then yeah, I got to spend a little time
- 6:21Speaker 1: in Michigan hunting and glassing, and I can tell you
- 6:25Speaker 1: that I have seen some definite prered activity here in Michigan.
- 6:29Speaker 1: I saw three and a half real buck chasen a
- 6:33Speaker 1: dough two days ago, I think it was. And I
- 6:37Speaker 1: hunted last night and saw what looked like, you know,
- 6:42Speaker 1: a hot dough with a bunch of bucks just standing
- 6:44Speaker 1: around waiting so that I might have like a first
- 6:47Speaker 1: hot dough of the year kind of situation. I saw
- 6:50Speaker 1: like a two or three year old buck and then
- 6:51Speaker 1: a couple of year and a half old doing that thing.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Where they're just standing on the edge of the cover
- 6:56Speaker 1: looking in there, and then there was some running around
- 6:58Speaker 1: and then more standing there, and I've just seen that
- 7:01Speaker 1: movie play out so many times. There's likely one of
- 7:03Speaker 1: my shooter bucks was in that thicket with a dough
- 7:06Speaker 1: and all these other kind of satellite bucks were orbiting
- 7:09Speaker 1: around it. So I'm gonna go back out there tonight
- 7:12Speaker 1: and hopefully be in the action. So it's it's just
- 7:16Speaker 1: getting going around here, and I'm sure it's it's only
- 7:19Speaker 1: going to get better. So that's that's my quick activity report.
- 7:22Speaker 1: I love it. Late October is so cool because it's
- 7:25Speaker 1: like a little bit of the rut chaos, but it's
- 7:29Speaker 1: more organized to the you know, first couple hours of
- 7:32Speaker 1: daylight and the last couple hours of daylight, so it's
- 7:34Speaker 1: like organized chaos. You know, you're probably not missing some
- 7:38Speaker 1: cruising four and a half year old buck that's out
- 7:40Speaker 1: there at noon, um, but he may be up and
- 7:44Speaker 1: moving earlier than he ever would be earlier in the year, um,
- 7:49Speaker 1: with like thirty minutes daylight left or something. So that's
- 7:52Speaker 1: why I love late October. But yeah, man, it's one
- 7:55Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of the year. Now I want
- 7:57Speaker 1: to fast forward dough to the rut and to November.
- 8:00Speaker 1: And this is something we cover most years, and that
- 8:03Speaker 1: is the rutting moon. Now, before we talk about the
- 8:06Speaker 1: rutting moon, Mark, I think you have some qualifiers to
- 8:10Speaker 1: put out there that come up anytime we have to
- 8:13Speaker 1: have this discussion. So like, before we talk about what
- 8:17Speaker 1: the rutting moon is and what it is, fore, like,
- 8:21Speaker 1: what are kind of your general thoughts around the rutting
- 8:23Speaker 1: moon theories. Yeah, so, so we have to talk about
- 8:26Speaker 1: the rutting moon because it's the thing that people want
- 8:28Speaker 1: to hear about because people because a lot of people
- 8:30Speaker 1: believe in this thing, because a lot of people are
- 8:32Speaker 1: intrigued by it, they want to you know, be at
- 8:36Speaker 1: least I don't know, spitballing on it. So so I
- 8:39Speaker 1: want to make sure we address it. But I address
- 8:41Speaker 1: it with these very significant qualifiers, these very significant like
- 8:46Speaker 1: asterisks next to this conversation. Because the science, a lot
- 8:52Speaker 1: of different studies point to their being zero correlation between
- 8:58Speaker 1: the timing of the white tail it and moon phase
- 9:02Speaker 1: or moon position or anything like that. There's not been
- 9:05Speaker 1: any kind of real correlation found. So let's just make
- 9:09Speaker 1: that very clear. The science does not back up these theories. Okay.
- 9:15Speaker 1: That said, there's a whole lot of anecdotal evidence. There's
- 9:19Speaker 1: a lot of people that have done their own kind
- 9:21Speaker 1: of little studies here and there, and they have strong
- 9:24Speaker 1: theories and opinions on this. So we'll put this out
- 9:27Speaker 1: here as a hey, here's what some people have seen
- 9:29Speaker 1: and think, and you know, swear by and then I
- 9:33Speaker 1: will also hedge it by saying, but the peer reviewed
- 9:37Speaker 1: studies can't back it up. So take this with a
- 9:39Speaker 1: grain cell, take it however you want, Let it go
- 9:41Speaker 1: in one year out the other. If you want, or
- 9:43Speaker 1: if this is something that you've seen seems to match
- 9:46Speaker 1: up and that you think works in your area, then
- 9:48Speaker 1: you know, pay attention. Or like you, Spencer, if you
- 9:51Speaker 1: love to hear your sasquatch theories even though you don't
- 9:54Speaker 1: really believe in sasquatch, this is one of those kinds
- 9:56Speaker 1: of conversations for you too. So that's my head, that's
- 10:00Speaker 1: my qualifier. Uh, did I cover the base the basism
- 10:04Speaker 1: mostly there? Maybe I didn't really explain what the thing
- 10:07Speaker 1: is though, So that that's okay, We'll get to that
- 10:09Speaker 1: in a second. I think you put the appropriate qualifiers
- 10:12Speaker 1: on it. Even took my line about liking name to Sasquatch,
- 10:16Speaker 1: like I I don't believe in Sasquatch, I don't believe
- 10:18Speaker 1: in the running moon, but damn it, I am so
- 10:20Speaker 1: interested in both, and I want to hear all the
- 10:23Speaker 1: theories about both of them in any stories you might
- 10:25Speaker 1: have related to either one. Before we talk about running moon, though,
- 10:32Speaker 1: what was the twenty twenty running moon. So hunters can
- 10:36Speaker 1: have like some barometer or some comparison to what they
- 10:39Speaker 1: may see in if they think that this is a
- 10:42Speaker 1: thing that affects buck movement. Yeah, So first off, the
- 10:47Speaker 1: running moon. When someone says the running moon, this is
- 10:49Speaker 1: coming mostly from a theory and a kind of viewpoint
- 10:53Speaker 1: popularized by Charles Elsheimer and Wayne Laroche. Uh. Charles Alsheimer
- 10:58Speaker 1: was a writer, photographer rest in peace. He passed away
- 11:02Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, but this running moon theory
- 11:05Speaker 1: is mostly popularized by them, and basically it was their
- 11:08Speaker 1: belief that the timing of the rut, the peak of
- 11:12Speaker 1: like rut activity is triggered by the second full moon
- 11:16Speaker 1: after the autumn equinox. So that was like the triggering
- 11:19Speaker 1: point that typically you would then see seeking and chasing
- 11:22Speaker 1: really pick up from there, and then you'd see the
- 11:25Speaker 1: peak breeding happened a little while after that. And this
- 11:28Speaker 1: second full moon after the autumn equinox, that happens at
- 11:31Speaker 1: different parts of the year, you know, every year, so that,
- 11:35Speaker 1: in their belief, is why you would see running activity
- 11:38Speaker 1: at different parts of the year in different places. So
- 11:40Speaker 1: in the running moon, that second full moon after the
- 11:43Speaker 1: autom equinox was October one. What this theory he typically
- 11:49Speaker 1: has shown, or what they what they say is that
- 11:52Speaker 1: when that running moon falls right in the line with
- 11:55Speaker 1: the typical you know, beginning of November start of running activity,
- 12:00Speaker 1: that's when you see the very best kind of syncd
- 12:04Speaker 1: up rut. You'll see stuff happen just like it's supposed to.
- 12:07Speaker 1: You're gonna see the chasing, and you're gonna see the seeking,
- 12:10Speaker 1: and it's gonna be very frenzied, and it's gonna be daylight,
- 12:12Speaker 1: and it's gonna be everything you ever dreamed about. That
- 12:15Speaker 1: is what they predicted for the rut um. I would say, well,
- 12:24Speaker 1: let me let me take one step back. That's what
- 12:26Speaker 1: the running moon theory said. I mentioned to you all
- 12:29Speaker 1: in the beginning that the running moon theory is not
- 12:32Speaker 1: backed to by any science. I did not mention what
- 12:34Speaker 1: the science typically shows. The sense typically show not the
- 12:37Speaker 1: science typically it does show that rutting behavior like the
- 12:43Speaker 1: actual peak breeding, so breeding is consistent year after year.
- 12:47Speaker 1: There have been studies that go and measure the size
- 12:50Speaker 1: of fetuses and back date them. You can actually tell
- 12:53Speaker 1: when a Vaughn was conceived based on these measurements. They've
- 12:57Speaker 1: went back, they've done that research and have shown that
- 13:00Speaker 1: in most areas of the country, it is happening the
- 13:03Speaker 1: peak of this belker. Right, you gotta imagine a belker.
- 13:05Speaker 1: There's always some earlier, there's always some late, but the
- 13:07Speaker 1: majority always fall around this exact same time because this
- 13:11Speaker 1: breeding behavior is triggered The science shows by photo period,
- 13:15Speaker 1: which is the amount of daylight in the twenty four
- 13:18Speaker 1: hour time period, and that doesn't change. That's that happens
- 13:21Speaker 1: at the same point in every year, year after year
- 13:23Speaker 1: after year. So I should have mentioned at the beginning
- 13:27Speaker 1: most places across the country you should see running activity
- 13:31Speaker 1: in general follow the same trend. So for me here
- 13:36Speaker 1: in Michigan, across much of the Midwest, it's rising through
- 13:39Speaker 1: October and then usually get a lot of that seeking
- 13:42Speaker 1: and chasing happening right about now through those first couple
- 13:46Speaker 1: of weeks of November, and then somewhere around mid November
- 13:50Speaker 1: is when most parts of the country have their peak
- 13:52Speaker 1: breeding dates. So sorry I didn't mentioned upfront that is
- 13:56Speaker 1: what the science and that's what most folks believe is
- 13:59Speaker 1: what actually happens. The running moon lined up with that,
- 14:03Speaker 1: so it was supposed to be these two things matching
- 14:05Speaker 1: up to create the best case scenario. So you've now
- 14:08Speaker 1: laid the foundation for this. You've given caveats, you said
- 14:12Speaker 1: what happened in you've explained what it is, You've explained
- 14:15Speaker 1: what the science says about it. Now I want you
- 14:18Speaker 1: to briefly talk about ones running moon. And I want
- 14:23Speaker 1: to emphasize brief because you actually just wrote an article
- 14:26Speaker 1: about this that probably goes into greater detail than you
- 14:29Speaker 1: have the ability to on this podcast and lays it
- 14:32Speaker 1: out in a more organized sense. So briefly tell us
- 14:35Speaker 1: about the running moon, and then we'll tell folks where
- 14:39Speaker 1: to find the article where they can get more info
- 14:41Speaker 1: on this theory. You're so good at a queuing up
- 14:44Speaker 1: these plugs for article, Spencer, kudos, do you absolutely? Um? So,
- 14:49Speaker 1: the very cliff notes version is that we have a
- 14:52Speaker 1: very late running moon this year because of the way
- 14:56Speaker 1: the fall equinox falls. The running moon the second fo
- 15:00Speaker 1: moon after the autumn equinox technically is November nineteen, so
- 15:04Speaker 1: twenty days later than it was last year. And the
- 15:07Speaker 1: short version of what that might mean according to this
- 15:10Speaker 1: theory is that we're going to have something that Elsheimer
- 15:13Speaker 1: referred to as a trickle rut. So this would mean
- 15:16Speaker 1: running behavior kind of triggering from the first full moon
- 15:21Speaker 1: after the autom equinox on October all the way through
- 15:24Speaker 1: November nineteen. So this is not as good of a
- 15:27Speaker 1: set of circumstances as the theory indicated for last year.
- 15:33Speaker 1: That is that enough to tease it, that's perfect. So
- 15:36Speaker 1: if you want more on that, we have an article
- 15:38Speaker 1: that Mark just wrote says what you need to know
- 15:41Speaker 1: about the rutting moon. Mark goes into even greater detail
- 15:45Speaker 1: in the Rutting Moon and what that means for Hunters.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Your other reading material for this week, which you can
- 15:51Speaker 1: find in the description of this episode. Just scroll down.
- 15:53Speaker 1: If you're on like Spotify or iTunes or whatever, these
- 15:56Speaker 1: articles are going to be linked right there. You click that,
- 15:58Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the wire to home website and
- 16:00Speaker 1: be a fast way to catch up on some of
- 16:03Speaker 1: our reading material. The next article is this strategy will
- 16:05Speaker 1: help You Kill More running Bucks by Alex Gilstrom. Alex
- 16:08Speaker 1: breaks down how a certain mindset will help you be
- 16:11Speaker 1: a better deer hunter in November, and then from Bou Martonic,
- 16:14Speaker 1: the pros and cons of rubber boots for archery hunting
- 16:18Speaker 1: bow breaks down if rubber boots are right for you
- 16:20Speaker 1: based on your white tail hunting style, and then three
- 16:24Speaker 1: reasons hunters fail during the rut by Tony Peterson. Tony
- 16:27Speaker 1: goes over the common mistakes that deer hunters make when
- 16:30Speaker 1: trying to kill a buck during the rut and offers
- 16:33Speaker 1: some advice on how to avoid making them now. The
- 16:36Speaker 1: other folks are gonna hear from in this episode are
- 16:39Speaker 1: Nate Crick from Identical Draw in Kansas, Greglitzinger from the
- 16:42Speaker 1: Bow Hunting Fiend YouTube channel in New Jersey, Lake Pickle
- 16:46Speaker 1: from Primos in Mississippi, and then T J. Anger from
- 16:49Speaker 1: the Virtue TV in Indiana. I just gotta say that
- 16:53Speaker 1: Lake Pickle has got the best name for someone in
- 16:56Speaker 1: the world of hunting. Yeah, just very jealous. What a
- 16:58Speaker 1: great name. Lake pick he does. He could do anything
- 17:01Speaker 1: he could like. Uh, he could host a late night show.
- 17:04Speaker 1: He could be a NASCAR driver, he could work for
- 17:07Speaker 1: Premost and come on the wire to Hunt podcast and
- 17:09Speaker 1: talk about white tales in Mississippi. That that name works
- 17:12Speaker 1: for anything. It really does good for him. Um, well,
- 17:16Speaker 1: I I'm excited. I will tell you one thing I
- 17:19Speaker 1: didn't mention in my running moon discussion, but I think
- 17:21Speaker 1: should just be mentioned here is that I'm not gonna
- 17:24Speaker 1: let that trickle rutt prediction. I'm not gonna let that
- 17:27Speaker 1: late rutting moon prediction make me feel pessimistic at all.
- 17:32Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. Late October and early November
- 17:36Speaker 1: is almost always great. We've got decent weather, so it's
- 17:40Speaker 1: not either some big hot front coming through. Uh. Stuff
- 17:43Speaker 1: should be awesome. So get out there, have fun. I'm stoked.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I think we're in for a really good uh rut
- 17:48Speaker 1: here coming up. Well said, the next time I talked
- 17:51Speaker 1: to you, Mark, it will be November. Hallelujah. Alright, and
- 17:57Speaker 1: joining us on the line first is Nate Crick for
- 18:00Speaker 1: identical Jaw in Kansas. Now, Nate in Kansas, what would
- 18:03Speaker 1: you say? The buck activity has been lately on a
- 18:05Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, I would say a seven
- 18:09Speaker 1: UM out of ten UM. And I feel like that's
- 18:12Speaker 1: kind of generous because the weather, at least from what
- 18:15Speaker 1: I can remember from years past, the weather has definitely
- 18:18Speaker 1: been colder, um, which makes better deer activity. And I
- 18:22Speaker 1: feel like for this time of the year it's been
- 18:24Speaker 1: a little on the warm side, but we're still seeing
- 18:26Speaker 1: decent buck activity, and especially in the last week. UM,
- 18:30Speaker 1: I'm a lot more daily activity. Now, you and your
- 18:34Speaker 1: brother Tom have historically had some success bowl hunting in
- 18:38Speaker 1: late October. What is it about your hunting style or
- 18:40Speaker 1: the property that you're on that you think sets up
- 18:43Speaker 1: for killing bucks this time of year. Yeah, so, Thompson,
- 18:47Speaker 1: I we hunt we have had primarily big tracks of
- 18:50Speaker 1: timber to hunt. We never really have had access to
- 18:54Speaker 1: like big food plots or anything like that. Um. So
- 18:57Speaker 1: I feel like we've figured out how to hunt ridge
- 19:00Speaker 1: is um very successfully. And then the other side of that,
- 19:03Speaker 1: with late Octobers, we've killed our bucks primarily over scrapes.
- 19:08Speaker 1: We found really good travel areas on top of these
- 19:11Speaker 1: ridge lines that it's taken a few years to figure out.
- 19:14Speaker 1: But um, Yeah, our our combination has been really good
- 19:18Speaker 1: travel areas on top of these ridge lines, and then
- 19:21Speaker 1: coined that with really really fresh signs, and that's where
- 19:24Speaker 1: I've been. Our success has been. Um, it's been a
- 19:27Speaker 1: pretty simple formula that hey, let's get a good access
- 19:30Speaker 1: into that area so we don't have to be worried
- 19:31Speaker 1: about our wind, get the right wind, get in there,
- 19:33Speaker 1: and yeah, it's we've really had good luck hunting fresh
- 19:37Speaker 1: sign on ridge lines in late October. What are you
- 19:40Speaker 1: seeing for signmaking right now in Kansas? Um. We actually
- 19:46Speaker 1: we did a small walk about to move some of
- 19:48Speaker 1: our cameras around today and we were surprised that there
- 19:50Speaker 1: are a lot of scrapes around. And we are here
- 19:53Speaker 1: just about oh four yeah, four or five days ago,
- 19:57Speaker 1: and just today walking around we saw at least new scrapes,
- 20:01Speaker 1: so um, they're definitely starting to hit those pretty hard. Um.
- 20:05Speaker 1: We haven't checked out the timber um in the area
- 20:07Speaker 1: that deer would rub on. We've got a lot of
- 20:09Speaker 1: hedge in the areas that we've hunted so far, and uh,
- 20:12Speaker 1: deer don't want to rub on that for obvious reasons
- 20:14Speaker 1: such a it's such a hard wood. Um. But yeah,
- 20:17Speaker 1: the scrape activity has been really really good the last
- 20:20Speaker 1: last few days. What's the standards of the crop harvest
- 20:24Speaker 1: in Kansas right now and what other food sources are
- 20:26Speaker 1: relevant this time of year. Yeah, I would say in
- 20:30Speaker 1: our area, I bet we're looking at harvested in the area.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Still have the occasional field that I'm seeing that's still standing. UM.
- 20:39Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like UM, a few weeks ago
- 20:42Speaker 1: when they really pulled most of the crops out UM,
- 20:46Speaker 1: that actually had a pretty decent impact UM on deer movement,
- 20:50Speaker 1: and I felt like our stids got pretty decent actually
- 20:53Speaker 1: during that time October. But yeah, as far as now,
- 20:56Speaker 1: I feel like they are not as worried about their
- 20:59Speaker 1: food sources and moving to those those thicker bedding areas.
- 21:02Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what on ont least on our
- 21:04Speaker 1: our eight acres in canvas that we're hunting, we've got
- 21:07Speaker 1: three acres of a mix of corn beans and then
- 21:10Speaker 1: we've got these tiny little transition pots we call them,
- 21:13Speaker 1: that are UM usually clover and maybe some brass cousin there,
- 21:17Speaker 1: but basically just a mix that we threw over UM
- 21:20Speaker 1: this spring. UM. And those pots have been the ones
- 21:24Speaker 1: that have really caught fire the last week. And I
- 21:27Speaker 1: think it's because, um, it's in the timber, so the
- 21:30Speaker 1: deer are super safe. And did those are the plots
- 21:32Speaker 1: that we're just getting hammered by dose And again they're small,
- 21:35Speaker 1: they're like quarter acre or smaller. And the last week
- 21:39Speaker 1: we've seen that buck activity pick up in those because
- 21:41Speaker 1: it was such a home to all these doughs that
- 21:43Speaker 1: instead of a herd of does moving through in the evening,
- 21:46Speaker 1: we're getting a couple of straggler bucks to be on
- 21:48Speaker 1: their tails to you know, in late October. How do
- 21:51Speaker 1: your morning setups differ from your evening setups? Um? Honestly,
- 21:58Speaker 1: the last last few days we been having them pretty similar,
- 22:02Speaker 1: but I would stay in the evening UM, which we've
- 22:04Speaker 1: based it on a lot of trail cam activity. Are
- 22:07Speaker 1: evenings have been better. So the only thing that we're
- 22:09Speaker 1: doing in the evenings that's a little different in the
- 22:11Speaker 1: morning is maybe getting a little more aggressive and maybe
- 22:14Speaker 1: getting a little tighter to where we see these these
- 22:16Speaker 1: deer heading. Um in the morning, I think we do
- 22:19Speaker 1: steal this like this This time is probably the last
- 22:22Speaker 1: week were we might play it safe a little bit
- 22:24Speaker 1: more in the mornings and work the food to betting
- 22:27Speaker 1: areas that might not be as risky, but yeah, for
- 22:30Speaker 1: these evening setups we're getting, we're hugging betting pretty tight.
- 22:34Speaker 1: And if you could throw in like I was just
- 22:36Speaker 1: talking about, like a little green clover pot in there,
- 22:38Speaker 1: um that that's been really money for us going forward.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Then in the next week or so, what do you
- 22:45Speaker 1: think that buck activity is going to be on a
- 22:47Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Kansas, I'd go to
- 22:52Speaker 1: eight out of ten. I would think I'd give it
- 22:54Speaker 1: one more up. Um, I think this time of the
- 22:57Speaker 1: year is amazing. Um. And and I do think it's
- 23:01Speaker 1: still it's still at least in Kansas, is still getting
- 23:03Speaker 1: up into the fifties and almost the sixty mark during
- 23:05Speaker 1: the day. Um, it is different too about thirty degrees.
- 23:08Speaker 1: So I do think, I mean, it's still a little warm,
- 23:10Speaker 1: but this is the time of year that hey, bucks
- 23:13Speaker 1: are gonna start moving, and um, everybody's kind of getting
- 23:17Speaker 1: ansty in the deer woods. So um, I'm expecting it
- 23:20Speaker 1: to be really good the next week. All right, Nay,
- 23:22Speaker 1: good luck to you and your brother. Thanks for joining me.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Thanks senter alright and joining us on the line. Next
- 23:28Speaker 1: is Greg Litzinger from the Bow Hunting fiend YouTube channel
- 23:31Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Now Greg in New Jersey, what would
- 23:34Speaker 1: you say the bucket activity is ben lately? On a
- 23:36Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, I'll give it a six.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I think the weather has had a lot to do
- 23:40Speaker 1: with it. It's really here in Jersey. It's it's been
- 23:42Speaker 1: warm and a lot of weird winds, a lot of
- 23:45Speaker 1: east wind, southeast wind. So there's definitely some changes to normal. UM.
- 23:51Speaker 1: I guess normal patterns yearly patterns, So I will give
- 23:55Speaker 1: it a six. You know, especially public land. He has
- 23:57Speaker 1: strictly public land here. So what are you seeing for
- 24:01Speaker 1: signmaking right now in New Jersey? Um Robs, bigger rubs
- 24:08Speaker 1: are popping up, UM say, like the big boys have
- 24:11Speaker 1: come out a little bit and scrimping areas. UM are
- 24:17Speaker 1: They're staying active, but not like super active like they
- 24:19Speaker 1: were around the twelfth of October. They were really jumping off.
- 24:24Speaker 1: I've perceived in the next couple of days it should
- 24:26Speaker 1: you have pick back up your regarding your regardless of
- 24:29Speaker 1: the weather. If you're doing some in season scouting this
- 24:33Speaker 1: time of year on public land in the northeast, what
- 24:36Speaker 1: are some things that you're looking for this year? I've
- 24:40Speaker 1: located foods. Of contrary on foods, UM, there's a lot
- 24:45Speaker 1: there's a bump or acorn crop UM in the woods hunting,
- 24:48Speaker 1: so there's food everywhere, So trying to find the right
- 24:52Speaker 1: food which is going to be key. I think, Um,
- 24:55Speaker 1: we have corn and beans, but they've been known that
- 24:57Speaker 1: stuff down because it's been dried out, so the the
- 25:00Speaker 1: crops have been slowly disappearing as force some monest deer
- 25:03Speaker 1: in the woodlots a little sooner than normal. So UM
- 25:08Speaker 1: food has been become a highlight on I think for
- 25:10Speaker 1: a lot of this deer because there's just you know,
- 25:12Speaker 1: it's it's everywhere and they just want to disgorge. If
- 25:16Speaker 1: you're running trail cameras right now on public land, where
- 25:19Speaker 1: do you want to have them this time of year?
- 25:20Speaker 1: In New Jersey? Um, I'm a scrape guy. UM so
- 25:26Speaker 1: I'm I'm near scrapes on a scrape line. Um anything
- 25:30Speaker 1: scrape baste, I guess good option. Historically, when do you
- 25:35Speaker 1: usually start seeing some rotting activity like chasing and sparring
- 25:38Speaker 1: in that part of the country. October seems to be
- 25:46Speaker 1: the first couple of those around here, kind of popping
- 25:49Speaker 1: the heat. Get a few, so get the bus under
- 25:52Speaker 1: feet in late October? How does the morning set up
- 25:55Speaker 1: differ for you than in the evening set up for me? Personally?
- 25:59Speaker 1: They are to say a UM sitting over a scrape.
- 26:02Speaker 1: UM usually morning and evening unless I feel running some
- 26:07Speaker 1: crazy hot like food sign or something on the way in.
- 26:10Speaker 1: But basically I'm focusing on big scraping areas or scraping
- 26:14Speaker 1: line feeding like a uh, your known food source. Are
- 26:20Speaker 1: you able to use aerial imagery at all to identify
- 26:22Speaker 1: places that are likely to have useful scrapes to hunt?
- 26:28Speaker 1: He depends on where I'm hunting. Um. Where I'm hunting
- 26:31Speaker 1: this year, it's kind of just it's a lot of
- 26:33Speaker 1: Laurel big woods kind of setting. So aerial photos and
- 26:38Speaker 1: datum you can see some of the oa trees, little
- 26:39Speaker 1: patches of oaks and yes, So when you're identifying a
- 26:44Speaker 1: good scrape to be haunting in late October, what are
- 26:47Speaker 1: some key features that you're looking for? Numerous scrapes on
- 26:51Speaker 1: one tree with all broken overhead, you know, licking branches
- 26:57Speaker 1: or a like a scraping you know area. I guess
- 27:00Speaker 1: there's numerous scrapes on numerous trees. Just the most scrapes
- 27:04Speaker 1: the better and a small small area going forward. Then
- 27:09Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think
- 27:11Speaker 1: that bucket activity is going to be on a scale
- 27:13Speaker 1: of one to ten in New Jersey. Um, I'm gonna
- 27:17Speaker 1: give it an eight. I just think, you know, historically speaking,
- 27:21Speaker 1: you know, it's been you know, a weird strange wind
- 27:25Speaker 1: and weather here, and they're just gonna They're gonna have
- 27:28Speaker 1: the the arts breath and move, So these scraping areas
- 27:32Speaker 1: are gonna, you know, just really ramp up, and the
- 27:34Speaker 1: box as definitely going to be under feet just because, um,
- 27:38Speaker 1: if you're not for your last basically this time of
- 27:40Speaker 1: year for breeding. Alright, Greg, good luck with the rest
- 27:44Speaker 1: of your falling. Thanks for joining me, Thanks for having
- 27:46Speaker 1: me all right and joining us online. Next is Lake
- 27:49Speaker 1: Pickle from Primost In Mississippi. Now Lake in Mississippi. What
- 27:53Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on
- 27:55Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. I'm gonna give it
- 27:59Speaker 1: a two. I'm gonna go I know that sounds like
- 28:03Speaker 1: a low score, but I think a lot of folks
- 28:06Speaker 1: from down there. Of course you'll have your your outliers,
- 28:08Speaker 1: but a lot of folks from that area would probably agree. Uh,
- 28:14Speaker 1: this time of year, the weather, I mean it's still hot.
- 28:16Speaker 1: I mean it's deer season. So some people folks have
- 28:19Speaker 1: that mindset that you know, seasons open, you gotta go,
- 28:21Speaker 1: you gotta try, which I completely understand. But um, last
- 28:25Speaker 1: week we had a full moon, hot weather, it's humid.
- 28:28Speaker 1: It's just not not a lot of things motivating a deer,
- 28:33Speaker 1: a buck move and daylight hours. So that's where the
- 28:36Speaker 1: where the low score came from. Historically in late October
- 28:40Speaker 1: and Mississippi is the buck movement of two out of ten. Yeah,
- 28:46Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't say it not anything above a
- 28:50Speaker 1: five by any by any means, Are you seeing any
- 28:55Speaker 1: signmaking right now in Mississippi? You'll see, you know, some
- 29:00Speaker 1: scrapes and stuff, but nothing, nothing, anything too intense. We're
- 29:04Speaker 1: still a month it'll be late November early December before
- 29:08Speaker 1: you start seeing anything really like that breaking loose. What
- 29:12Speaker 1: food sources are relevant right now for deer hunters in
- 29:14Speaker 1: that part of the country. Um, a lot of your masteries?
- 29:19Speaker 1: What did that be? You know, soft masks like for
- 29:22Speaker 1: symmetries and stuff like that. Have you stuff some acron
- 29:24Speaker 1: trees that are very much in play? Um? And then
- 29:27Speaker 1: you'll have a few guys that do early season food flights.
- 29:30Speaker 1: If you can have a food flight that early and
- 29:32Speaker 1: it be up and and going, that can be a
- 29:36Speaker 1: good food source for you. But I'd say mostly a
- 29:39Speaker 1: lot of natural stuff is still your key. Where do
- 29:42Speaker 1: you like to run your trail cameras this time of year? Um,
- 29:46Speaker 1: food flots if you got them, and and any kind
- 29:48Speaker 1: of food sources, because that's where most of us gonna
- 29:50Speaker 1: be for sure in late October and Mississippi, are you
- 29:54Speaker 1: doing much for morning hunts? And if so, what do
- 29:57Speaker 1: those setups look like? We don't man um And I
- 30:01Speaker 1: tell you the reason behind that. Uh, it's come like
- 30:05Speaker 1: a not a point of not really a point to
- 30:08Speaker 1: argue on, but it just a lot of different opinions. Uh,
- 30:12Speaker 1: where we hunt at there's a lot of other pressure around,
- 30:16Speaker 1: you know, whether that be from neighboring landowners or whatever.
- 30:20Speaker 1: But the deer just tend to get pressured a lot.
- 30:22Speaker 1: And this time of year were key and heavy on
- 30:25Speaker 1: food sources and a lot of times that we figured
- 30:28Speaker 1: out through a lot of trial and error. If we're
- 30:30Speaker 1: trying to just you know, sneak into food sources before daylight,
- 30:34Speaker 1: A lot of times you end up bumping the deer
- 30:36Speaker 1: off and the deer down here, especially where we hunt,
- 30:39Speaker 1: they do not. They respond to pressure drastically. So uh,
- 30:45Speaker 1: if we get you know, like pull a trail camera
- 30:47Speaker 1: and see something that you know, maybe shows a morning hunt,
- 30:51Speaker 1: maybe worth sneaking in there and trying it, will do it.
- 30:53Speaker 1: But most of the time we just leave it sit
- 30:56Speaker 1: in the morning and go in the afternoon strictly for
- 30:58Speaker 1: no other reason and just had to take pressure off
- 31:01Speaker 1: those year because they're so they response drastically to it.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Usually historically, Then when do you like to start doing
- 31:08Speaker 1: some morning haunts in Mississippi when you start seeing some
- 31:13Speaker 1: pre rud activity. Um, when you start seeing bucks do
- 31:17Speaker 1: more than just get up and go the bare minimum
- 31:19Speaker 1: distance to get a bit of food and go back. Uh,
- 31:22Speaker 1: you see them start getting on their feet and moving
- 31:24Speaker 1: and that and that then and then born and hunts
- 31:27Speaker 1: definitely become worth it up and when the rud starts,
- 31:29Speaker 1: you know, kicking morning hunts can be fantastic. That's when
- 31:32Speaker 1: we had some of our best hunts last year. But
- 31:34Speaker 1: this time of year, I think in our situation we're
- 31:37Speaker 1: doing more harm than we than we are good. Typically,
- 31:40Speaker 1: when the temps are high this time of year. Does
- 31:43Speaker 1: water factor into your setups at all? Not really where
- 31:48Speaker 1: we are, just because there's there's not like there's a
- 31:53Speaker 1: a low availability of it. I mean, we've got creeks
- 31:56Speaker 1: and lakes and ponds. There's just so many places they
- 31:59Speaker 1: can go to get water. Granted they are using it,
- 32:01Speaker 1: it's just you're not gonna find some places heavily concentrated
- 32:06Speaker 1: for them to do that. They just have too much
- 32:07Speaker 1: access to water. Going forward. Then this next week or so,
- 32:11Speaker 1: what do you think that Bucket TV is going to
- 32:13Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Mississippi Una.
- 32:18Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I could say we could see like
- 32:20Speaker 1: a four or five. We starts handing some cooler temperatures, um,
- 32:25Speaker 1: but but still I wouldn't grade at anything too high. Alright, Lake,
- 32:28Speaker 1: good luck to you and the boys from Premos. Thanks
- 32:30Speaker 1: for joining me. Thanks man alright and joining us on
- 32:35Speaker 1: the line. Last, it's t J Unger in Indiana from
- 32:37Speaker 1: the Virtue TV. Now t J in Indiana, what would
- 32:41Speaker 1: you say the buck activity is bent Leley on a
- 32:43Speaker 1: skill of one to ten, Ah Spencer, we are looking
- 32:48Speaker 1: at lately probably about a six. We're sitting here around
- 32:52Speaker 1: a six to a seven in northeast Indiana. Um buck
- 32:56Speaker 1: activity is definitely increasing. We're seeing more two three year
- 33:01Speaker 1: olds all through the daylight hours. Does are getting dogged
- 33:04Speaker 1: and they know it. I mean they're they're getting very
- 33:06Speaker 1: familiar with what the next step is. UM. So things
- 33:10Speaker 1: are things are ramping up pretty quick. I've got us
- 33:12Speaker 1: probably at a six or seven right now. That part
- 33:15Speaker 1: of the country has been getting a lot of precipitation
- 33:17Speaker 1: this month. How has that change things for deer and
- 33:20Speaker 1: deer hunters we have as of late especially, we've been
- 33:25Speaker 1: getting several inches of of rain. So one of the
- 33:28Speaker 1: biggest factors are variables. There's a lot of standing crops,
- 33:32Speaker 1: so we've got a bonch of corn that's still standing around,
- 33:35Speaker 1: which obviously you guys know. Um it just increases habitat
- 33:38Speaker 1: for these da They can spend more time out in
- 33:40Speaker 1: the corn and less time in the in the field
- 33:42Speaker 1: edges and in the woods where us hunters are. UM.
- 33:45Speaker 1: So deer still hanging pretty tight to that habitat um,
- 33:49Speaker 1: and it makes it a little bit more difficult to
- 33:51Speaker 1: have daylight, you know, daylight uh encounters and and uh
- 33:57Speaker 1: really seeing your your number ones and two's hitting your
- 34:01Speaker 1: hitting ear scrapes and whatever else. So crops standing crops,
- 34:04Speaker 1: I think is has affected, at least on the farms
- 34:07Speaker 1: that I'm on. UM. They started getting indros out last week,
- 34:09Speaker 1: but we just got hit with another few inches last night. UM.
- 34:13Speaker 1: I'm expecting probably crops to still stand another two or
- 34:16Speaker 1: so weeks. UM going into the route heavy, which is
- 34:19Speaker 1: going to change things quite a bit. Besides standing corn
- 34:22Speaker 1: and beans, what other food sources are relevant right now
- 34:25Speaker 1: for hunters in that part of the country. So I've
- 34:29Speaker 1: seen a pretty recent transition to greens. So we've got
- 34:33Speaker 1: colder TIMPs finally, UM, and obviously they need those the
- 34:37Speaker 1: greens to help digest the greens. But UM, as of
- 34:41Speaker 1: late seeing a nice transition onto those green food plots.
- 34:44Speaker 1: So we have a lot of clover plots, we've got brassicas, UM,
- 34:47Speaker 1: we ran a lot of winter peas this year. UM,
- 34:50Speaker 1: and the deer finally figuring it out and they're hitting
- 34:52Speaker 1: those greens more frequently and more frequent daylight hours for us.
- 34:57Speaker 1: So I'm running all cell cameras across all of my
- 34:59Speaker 1: farms UM, and it's been really neat to watch as
- 35:02Speaker 1: the farmers have pulled like indros out. Um, those deger
- 35:05Speaker 1: transitioned obviously to the fresh corn. UM, but they've popped
- 35:09Speaker 1: right back over to the greens as of here the
- 35:11Speaker 1: last week. UM. So I think we get these north
- 35:14Speaker 1: winds that are in the forecast, UM, I'll start hunting
- 35:17Speaker 1: those green plots pretty pretty heavily. What do you see
- 35:21Speaker 1: for signmaking right now? In Indiana? Scrapes are hot scrapes.
- 35:26Speaker 1: They're absolutely on fire right now. I had a little
- 35:28Speaker 1: bit of a downtime UM maybe a week ago, UM,
- 35:31Speaker 1: which was maybe kind of a soft wall um. But
- 35:34Speaker 1: to this last weekend, those scrapes absolutely turned up again.
- 35:38Speaker 1: I mentioned we've got we've had a lot of precipitation. Um,
- 35:42Speaker 1: those bucks are are freshening those scrapes. You know, once
- 35:44Speaker 1: that that front moves out, they're hitting those main community
- 35:47Speaker 1: scrapes really hard. So I'm getting a lot of really
- 35:50Speaker 1: exciting videos coming in, UM of the number ones and
- 35:54Speaker 1: twos that they're freshening them up. They're figuring out who's
- 35:57Speaker 1: two and communicating of course, but UM, it's active. They're
- 36:00Speaker 1: hitting those scrapes every two to three days. UM. Obviously
- 36:04Speaker 1: precipitation plays factor there but um sign is high. A
- 36:09Speaker 1: lot of buck rubs, a lot of scrapes right now
- 36:10Speaker 1: across all my farms. I assume by now you're doing
- 36:13Speaker 1: some morning haunts. So how do your morning setups differ
- 36:16Speaker 1: from your evening setups in late October? Yeah? So, Um,
- 36:21Speaker 1: obviously with day betting changing around a little bit with crops,
- 36:24Speaker 1: you know, even though they're pulling indros out, Um, those
- 36:27Speaker 1: deer are transitioning from betting to those grain fields. Um,
- 36:30Speaker 1: even just on those edges and indros. So I'm focusing
- 36:34Speaker 1: a little bit more on transition routes. Um, those betting areas.
- 36:38Speaker 1: You know, they're going through the funnels to get to
- 36:40Speaker 1: that food. Um. I'm watching those doughs pretty heavily, especially
- 36:45Speaker 1: those mature doughs that are getting bumped around, um to
- 36:48Speaker 1: kind of decide where I'm wanting to set up. So
- 36:51Speaker 1: starting to focus on those dough betting areas. In past
- 36:55Speaker 1: years in Indiana, when there's been a laid harvest that
- 36:58Speaker 1: carries on into the rout how do you sort of
- 37:01Speaker 1: combat that by having some good encounters. Do you have
- 37:03Speaker 1: any hot tips for bow hunting white tails when they're
- 37:06Speaker 1: still standing crops into the rut Um, I don't you know,
- 37:11Speaker 1: it's tough for me to speak to every for everyone
- 37:13Speaker 1: here because I'm hunting a lot of properties that have
- 37:15Speaker 1: postage stamp you know, parcels or wood lots. So we're
- 37:19Speaker 1: hunting on you know, thirty wood lots um that are
- 37:23Speaker 1: surrounded by corn. In some places, it is an advantage
- 37:27Speaker 1: because those deer are able to hold on those smaller
- 37:30Speaker 1: pieces or those smaller parcels UM. With that in mind,
- 37:35Speaker 1: I'm keeping pressure down as low as I possibly can
- 37:38Speaker 1: send control as humongous and access uh is critical for
- 37:43Speaker 1: these areas. So with the corns still standing, you know,
- 37:46Speaker 1: deer are still hanging out in those fields all day long. Um.
- 37:49Speaker 1: So I'm just being extra mindful of obviously win direction
- 37:54Speaker 1: as I'm accessing. But um, you know, as I start
- 37:57Speaker 1: to push in a little bit closer on betting, is
- 38:00Speaker 1: being really really mindful of my ground scent and you
- 38:02Speaker 1: know how that scent is blown into those areas. So
- 38:05Speaker 1: it's tough hunting these small parcels um, but it can
- 38:08Speaker 1: be an advantage if you play it right. So you know,
- 38:11Speaker 1: for an example, we've got these indros that are being
- 38:14Speaker 1: cut out, and typically I'd be hunting over that corn
- 38:18Speaker 1: you know, an entire cut corn field. But we've mixed
- 38:20Speaker 1: it up a little bit this year and made some
- 38:23Speaker 1: natural blinds in standing corn um to give us a
- 38:26Speaker 1: little bit of leverage to get closer and and you know,
- 38:29Speaker 1: maintain that control of of the wind. But um, just
- 38:32Speaker 1: trying to be a little bit more creative, um, you know,
- 38:35Speaker 1: with with these obstacles, er challenges that we've been presented,
- 38:39Speaker 1: with super wet conditions and a lot of crops. Going forward,
- 38:43Speaker 1: Then in a six week or so, what do you
- 38:44Speaker 1: think that bucket TV is going to be on a
- 38:46Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Indiana. I'm gonna throw
- 38:51Speaker 1: it out there, I expect, I hope. I'm gonna see
- 38:54Speaker 1: about it eight to a nine here over the next
- 38:57Speaker 1: week week and a half. Um, we've got this big
- 39:00Speaker 1: rain event that's moving out here Tuesday. So Tuesday night,
- 39:05Speaker 1: UM should be a pretty pretty exceptional little sit tim
- 39:08Speaker 1: ten degree temperature drop and it should remain consistent over
- 39:12Speaker 1: the next five to eight days. UM. So I'm looking
- 39:16Speaker 1: for that activity that we've seen ramp up just kind
- 39:19Speaker 1: of explode for us here with us next couple of weeks.
- 39:22Speaker 1: So I'm still gonna say conservatively in eight, because it's
- 39:25Speaker 1: just not very often we see a ten um, but
- 39:28Speaker 1: eight and a half, I'll be happy with it, all right,
- 39:30Speaker 1: t J like your optimism, Good luck with the rest
- 39:32Speaker 1: of your fall, and thanks for joining me likewise man,
- 39:35Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. And that concludes this week's
- 39:38Speaker 1: episode of rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to Nate, greg Lake,
- 39:42Speaker 1: and t J for joining me, and thank you guys
- 39:45Speaker 1: for listening. As a reminder, the reading materials for this
- 39:47Speaker 1: week can be found in the description of the episode.
- 39:50Speaker 1: You're gonna find articles like what you need to know
- 39:52Speaker 1: about the one running Moon, This strategy will help you
- 39:55Speaker 1: kill more running Bucks, pros and cons of rubber boots
- 39:58Speaker 1: for archery hunting, and three reasons hunters failed during the rut.
- 40:02Speaker 1: If you want to follow me as I'm getting into
- 40:04Speaker 1: the woods more this fall, go to Instagram and check
- 40:07Speaker 1: out at Spencer New Hearth. And if you want to
- 40:09Speaker 1: see everything markets up to, go to Instagram and look
- 40:12Speaker 1: at at Wired Hunt. The next time I talk to you,
- 40:16Speaker 1: it will finally be November, and I'm sure that our
- 40:18Speaker 1: rout reports will finally include some rutting activity. GI am
- 40:22Speaker 1: stoked about Until then, stay Wired to Hunt,