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#333: Final Destination 5 (2011) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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Death doesn't like to be cheated.
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Welcome to What's Your Least Favorite scary Movie?
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The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, any
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absurd, and all of our favorite scary movies.
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Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has his fan
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base. Even if we don't always get it.
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My name is Travis. My name is Jesse.
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And welcome back to our franchise coverage of this era.
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We are talking about Final Destination 5 today, yes, yeah.
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But before we do that, do we have anything that we need to
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announce? I hope not.
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Yeah, we'll. Probably have a Patreon episode
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up at some point soon and. That should be coming out real
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soon. That's for our budget tier
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patrons. And also be on the lookout for
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voting and potentially some other Patreon related
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announcements. Yeah, just keep an eye out.
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Keep an eye out on that Patreon, you know where to find it.
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All right, well then, without out of the way, I've got our
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poll for last week's movie. Yay.
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Last week we talked about fall, so we asked everybody, would you
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rather fall or descend? So that's fall as in climb up
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really, really high, or descend as in crawl down really
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underground. So you all want to guess who did
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that one that way? Yeah, I think it's pretty
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obvious. So the results, 42% would go up,
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58% would rather go down. This is a tough one for me
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because I'm terrified of both situations.
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I am really, really scared of heights and being as exposed to
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that as they are. Actually, it's the extreme for
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both of them. I don't know man.
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I guess I'll have to think about is it for sure that I'll die?
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Because if I'm going to die, I'd rather just fall quickly from a
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tower versus underground. Like you could just get stuck
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and like. That's the thing that gets me
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the tight. Oxygen, yeah.
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Yeah, there is a lot more claustrophobic underground.
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I think I would go up. Yeah, I think that's a.
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Yeah, like if I have a chance of making it, then I'd do The Cave.
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But if I'm, if I'm this is somebody that's going to die.
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Yeah, this is basically like a do you prefer to go up?
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Like are you? If you have to do 1 extreme
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sport, would you rather like rock climb or spelunk?
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Spelunk. OK, I'd rather go high.
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All right. Well, I guess we're not doing it
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together. No, I guess not.
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OK, well then that's it for that.
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I guess it's time for us to get into our episode coverage.
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Yeah, yeah. Final Destination 5 premiered
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August 5th, 2011 at the Fantasia Film Fest.
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Wide release August 12th, 2011. We watched it on our DVD.
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If you want to watch it as of March of 26, you can watch it on
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HBO Max or Cinemax. If you want to rent it, you can
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rent it on Prime, Apple TV or YouTube.
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Written by Eric Heiser, directed by Stephen Quayle, music by
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Brian Tyler and special effects makeup by Soho Video Effects,
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Prime Focus and Cosa Video Effects.
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OK, that's a lot. I do know one of the people that
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worked on this special effects team also worked on Dragon Ball
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Evolution, so we've got a lot of ties to Dragon Ball Evolution
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with Final Destination for some weird reason.
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Interesting. Yeah, I don't know how I feel
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about that. I'm conflicted.
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Because Dragon Ball Evolution is your favorite movie.
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Yeah, it's the best. It's my favorite.
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Nicholas de Gasto as Sam who we have previously talked about in
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drive through on a 2B or not to be.
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And who everybody also knows is an up and coming artist.
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Yeah, named Hunter. 1. Night one night.
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You made everything all right. Emma Bell as Molly, who we've
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also talked about so far on Frozen.
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And briefly, I had to too. Yeah, that's right.
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Well, cameo there. Miles Fisher is Peter Arlen
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Escarpeta as Nathan Ellen Rowe as Candace, who we've also
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talked about in Gatlob. Dude I didn't realize she was in
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that. I didn't either, but I wanted
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like once we had two common things.
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I've checked everybody's IMDb to see if.
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It's any time that. Was digging deep there, but
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Gallup, that was her very first to be or not to be episode.
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Jacqueline McInnes Wood as Olivia, PJ Byrne as Isaac, David
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Koechner as Dennis, Courtney B Vance as Agent Block and Tony
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Todd as Bloodworth. All right, time for a favorite
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game on the show. Budget expected considering this
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is the fifth in the franchise. Yeah, and we have 3 special
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effects production teams. Yeah, there's a lot.
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But I also know that the fourth was a little iffy.
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I'm going to say high bug Ted or low budget.
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Oh, OK. Well, it's it's high budget.
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Oh, really? Yeah, it's $40 million.
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Yeah, they threw a lot of change at this thing here.
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Had an opening box office of 18,000,000 worldwide gross 157
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million. OK, well, they made it back and
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then some. Yeah, for sure.
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IMDb 5.9. OK, that's that's a little rude.
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Yeah, I mean, you know, it's not the best.
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I think like as these movies go on, people are being less kind
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to them for some reason. So I have 3 movies from 2011.
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OK, surprisingly, a common theme.
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I'm going to tell you all right now, if you don't want, if you
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don't know anything about Final Destination 5 right now, like go
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watch it and then tune into this if you want to listen because
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I'm, I mean, this is kind of a spoiler.
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We're at the spoiler point now. Yes, now, OK, so the theme for
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2011 is prequel, sequel. OK, that's a that's a very good
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theme 'cause this was a secret prequel sequel.
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Yeah, some of these are the same so, well, actually just one of
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them, but OK, the first one, Paranormal Activity 3.
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OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Which that one is all about Katie's origin with Toby.
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Yes, Toby. Toby.
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That released October 21st. 5 million Budget, 207 million
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gross 5.8 IMDb. 5.8 for paranormal Activity 3.
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I thought that that was the fan favorite, but I guess maybe not.
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Or maybe the maybe people are hating on the franchise now and
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they're just like knocking these as time goes by, you know?
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We need to pick back up on those.
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We do, Yeah, Sorry. Folks.
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Yeah, yeah. God, I think 3 was the last one
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we talked about. Oops.
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Yeah, All right. Movie number.
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Two maybe preview for April. Movie #2 The thing, now that was
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one that was a surprise prequel. Oh yeah.
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You want to know another interesting tidbit right there?
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Oh boy, same writer as this movie.
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So OK. Same Stephen Quayle or no?
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Eric Heiser did both scripts. Like, you know what, I'm going
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to mark this as a sequel, but really we're going back into.
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That it worked for one movie, not so much the other.
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So The Thing released October 14th, budget of 38 million, so
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about the closest the Final Destination Five budget, but a
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worldwide gross of 31 million. Yeah, but it's got the highest
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IMDb score of the bunch here, 6.3.
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Really. And.
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Another interesting thing, all of these movies here are
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released within like a two week span.
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Wow. OK, so it's a busy August.
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Yeah, no October. October.
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Sorry. August was the Fantasia Film
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Festival for this. OK, sorry.
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So the final movie, it's a favorite on this show.
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We love it. Wrong turn 4 buddy.
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Beginnings. Yes, that's.
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One of the best in the whole franchise.
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It honestly is, you know, even even as horny as Declan O'Connor
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is Declan O'Brien. Declan O'Brien Yeah, you fucked
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yourself up that time. It's usually me that gets that
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mixed up. Yeah.
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So that released October 10th, budget 3,000,000.
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Don't have the gross since it was straight to DVD, but an IMDb
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of 4.5. I want to say rude but I get.
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It I-100. Percent.
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Get it? I don't agree personally, but I
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understand where that's coming from.
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OK, so it's time for some tag lines.
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I've got 4-1 on the poster. Death has never been closer.
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Yeah. OK, see this is another 3D1 they
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did. This a little bit better than
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the 4th 1. I think that was one of the
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things that I said before was that in the fourth one, it felt
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very much like you could tell this is meant to be 3D.
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We don't really get that as much in this one.
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There are a couple of shots where I'm like this feels 3D
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oriented but for the most part it's not like.
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That they did a lot better with it this time.
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The second tagline this summer. Death decides how, fate decides
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when. No, see, we've never recognized
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Fate is like an another entity. We can't.
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No, I don't like that. I don't like that tagline and
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he's trying to introduce new lore.
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I like that summer lifts for or death lifts for summer, though.
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It's like the in the summer death is going to figure this
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shit out. Yeah.
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The other seasons it's like, yeah, I'll take it easy, which
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is kind of Fair because like, I don't think I've we've seen any
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of these movies take place in another season.
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What do you think about him? We should have like a winter
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final destination. You would hope there's.
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So much that can be OK. Yeah, that needs to happen now,
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people. Make it happen.
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All right, another one. Another one.
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DJ Khaled, they tapped him for A tag line.
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Like DJ, please help. He's like, so this is a sequel,
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right? All right, another one.
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Boom, There we go. Yeah, we all share a common
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destination. That's true.
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Yeah, yeah, I get it. And the final one, kill or be
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killed, which that's more of a theme in this movie, so I think
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that works. OK.
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Ish. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's OK. None of these are really that
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great, really. Yeah.
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If DJ Khaled did another one, I think that would be the winner
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here. Like realistically.
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OK, time for fun facts. Yay.
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So the success of the fourth one actually is why they backtracked
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on their decision for that to be the final one.
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OK, so did I make up it not being well?
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Received. It did.
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Well, yeah, I remember it did like over 180 million because we
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both made the joke like stop it at 180.
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Oh yeah, it did. It did.
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Okay, I don't remember our own history.
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We also discovered last night that we may have stolen the What
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Would Dominic Tretto do from the movie Blockers?
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Yeah, I thought we were gonna, we're gonna explain that.
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I thought like around the time of that segment.
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Nope, we just don't remember the lore of our own show apparently.
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Which is consistent for. Us, it was a subconscious thing.
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It's not like we just like, ripped it straight from the.
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Movie and The thing is yeah, blockers that he says
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specifically what would Vin Diesel do which I think is why
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Travis always says. Thin and it's like a VD.
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Yeah. What would Vin Diesel do?
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OK, but that's VDD, but also we don't like that because VD is
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venereal disease. We.
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Don't want that. Yeah, OK.
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All right. So yeah, they backtracked.
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They had a pretty quick turn around for this one right here
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because the last one came out in 2009.
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This is 2011. So yeah, pretty, pretty fast for
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a fast Not fast, pretty fast for a Final Destination movie.
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God damn it, we've got Fast and Furious on the brain now, so
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this is funny. And they announced it. 5 null
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destination Red now with A5 NAL followed by destination.
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But if you look at it, it kind of looks like it says anal
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destination. So they reverse that like a
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couple of months later. The part of me that likes to be
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annoying and pronounce numbers and words is torn with a part of
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me that's a 12 year old boy and wants to laugh at it looking
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like the word anal. It's just like, how did they not
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notice that? As soon as I saw that, I was
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like, that's anal. That is anal destination.
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That is like the porn parody of The Final Destination.
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Movie. No, no, don't put.
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I mean, I'm sure it already. Already yet Rule 37 I.
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Cannot do this. Rule 34.
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I can't fucking remember which one it is either way.
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The Internet is gross and the people on it are gross.
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You. Know this?
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That's what the rule is. Yeah, OK.
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So Heiser felt like the pressure was off after the previous film.
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That's that. That to me speaks like he did
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not think very highly of for. My God.
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Yeah, I couldn't believe that he said that.
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He's like, yeah, I don't necessarily feel like there's a
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lot of pressure on me right now. However, he did say that he
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struggled with creative depths in this series.
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I know, man. Like fucking dude throwing them
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under the bus. That's great, I love a petty
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bitch. He said a good death sequence in
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the Final Destination world is ridiculously hard.
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There are a ton of rules that you need to know are there, and
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I was pulling my hair out over it.
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Oh, that. So I guess the pressure's not
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completely off then. All of that has to be on the
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page. They don't let me cheat any of
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that. I can't say I'm going to let the
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director figure this one out. You can't cheat death.
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Yeah, oh dude, he was trying to cheat death.
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Holy shit. Damn, I like to imagine Tony
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Todd was like in the writers room and he's like, no, no, he's
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like, listen, I'm he's actually like the continuity expert on
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the films. Yeah, yeah.
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However, he did get inspiration for one of his deaths from his
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wife, who was getting LASIK at the time.
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Cool. So that is where the LASIK
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incident happened. There was a different take on
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that scene in another deleted scene that's on the Blu-ray.
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Our DVD sucks with special features.
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It didn't have anything on it, but apparently the Blu-ray is
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where it's at. But apparently in the alternate
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version, both of her eyes get fried gross and she still falls
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out the window. Well yeah, she can't see it all.
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I prefer this like panicky version where she just like
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trips and does a Bella Swan dies.
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Yeah, I kinda like it better too, then.
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Yeah. Bella Swan.
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Oh, Bella Swan dies. Thank you.
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Dude. If she was a wrestler, that
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would be her. That would be it.
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Yeah. Jeff Hardy would have to, like,
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give that to her. And the other one.
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There was another alternate death, which was Isaac.
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And his was that instead of the Buddha falling on his head and
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crushing him, it was the liquid of alcohol engulfed him in
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flames. No, I like that he got his head
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squished. I like that better too.
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I think they did the better take for both of those.
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Yeah, yes, OK. And we have some callbacks like
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we do with all of them. So I've got a list here of all
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of the things that that we have. So First off, when Nate goes
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into the office with a six pack that he stole from Roy, Yeah,
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that is the high spell I'll that has been throughout all of these
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movies. I like that they found a way to
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put that in there, but also holy shit, stealing alcohol from your
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employee's truck when you already have beef with that
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alcohol like. I couldn't tell if he was
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joking. It kind of sounded like a joke,
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but I could also see him being that pissed off at Roy that he
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was going to steal his beer. Yeah, I just that's there are so
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many layers of like there's so many layers of corporates going
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to shit their pants at this. Do corporates already shitting
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in their pants half of their staff died?
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I guess that's true because Nathan was about to be laid off
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anyway. Are they?
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Would he have been laid off because he was the assistant
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plant manager at the plant was still running?
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Yeah, they were still running. They were just running at 50%.
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They haven't cut back. So corporate would have been
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like, we really didn't need this shit right now, Nathan.
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Exactly, yes. So Speaking of Roy, when we see
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Nate at the bar where they're doing like the memorial for him,
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you can see in the background there's a picture of him sending
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to the number four race car from Final Destination 40.
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That's fun. Yeah, that's crazy.
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Also, the corporate's retreat that they're doing, they're
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going to work with a consulting company called 180 Corporate
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Consulting. On Olivia's desk, there's a
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picture of the Devil's Flight roller coaster from Final
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Destination 3. I saw that she.
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I like it was the the picture that gets shattered like it
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shatters over her face. And I saw it was for a ride.
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Yeah, but I didn't see what the ride was.
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I didn't. Notice that I was just paying
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attention to wear it with the glass cracked over her eye.
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OK. And yeah, I think that's
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actually it. That's all I got for the stuff
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there. But, you know, still, like, like
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all these movies do we always have a little bit of fun, like
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Easter eggs, stuff like that, old premonitions whatnot.
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Oh, wait, Actually, there's one more.
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The place where he works is called.
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P Sage. Well presage is one of the
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things apparently. I did read that presage is
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that's another term for premonition.
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But no, I'm talking about the restaurant he works at.
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It's called shit. Yeah, it's not called shit.
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It's. I've got it here somewhere.
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It's something. We'll talk about it in the
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episode. Yeah, it's not even eight.
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Yeah, it's something 80. No, it's O eight, Yeah.
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If you read it backwards, it says 1. 80 81 yeah, it's
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something with an O at the end and an 81.
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When we get to that point in the in the movie talk here, I'll be
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able to talk about it because I wrote it down.
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But whatever, that's it for fun facts right now.
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Guys, it's Sunday morning and things are weird, so I'm sorry.
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We're not that far out of whack. Come on, We're talking about DJ
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Khaled. We're talking about Vin Diesel.
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We're going on a pretty good clip here.
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OK, well, whatever. Let's get into it then.
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What do you what do you like about this movie?
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OK, so there are a lot of really relatable death fears in this
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one. Yeah, we've got the bridge
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collapsing. Shout out to my mom because I
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have so many memories of being terrified on bridges when I was
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younger that I thought were nightmares.
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And my mom was like, oh, no, that was just me actually being
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afraid of bridges. And I was like, oh, OK, cool.
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Jesus. Generational trauma.
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Yeah, my mom's got like a fear of like really tall bridges.
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Oh wow, how? Come, which I know sounds really
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specific, but that's. So funny because she she's the
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one that forced me to go on the Hell Evader ride with her at
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Kings Island. Well, yeah, she's also an
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adrenaline junkie. OK, I regretted that decision.
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Naomi, if you're listening to. This.
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I I think about that day sometimes I'm like, why the fuck
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did I ever do that? Because.
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It next time she tries to come up and go to Kings Island with
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either of us, she's she's alone. Yeah.
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That's why she convinced you to do it, because after the last
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time I did it with her, I was like, I'm never doing that
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again. She burnt that bridge.
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Also the LASIK, we had a whole conversation about it when that
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scene started because like the circumstances where we would be
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willing to do LASIK, not for you at all.
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Right now, you, you survive without your glasses most of the
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time. For me, I think the only
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situation I would do it is if it becomes very clear we're about
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to enter like a Mad Max style of like post apocalyptic wasteland
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and I wouldn't have to worry about like.
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Contacts. Contacts and glasses all the
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time. Then I might like be like, OK,
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cool. I'm going to go ahead and like
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as a contingency plan, do this LASIK.
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But like until that feels like more of a reality, which we
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can't get closer. I don't feel like I would want
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to do it just because it it's lasers gutting your eyes.
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Then we've also got like the acupuncture scene.
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That's scary. Kitchens are always terrifying,
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that scene. Where he's just, yeah, it keeps
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that one. You're on your toes and you know
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that he is, too. They did a such, they did such a
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good job with that one right there.
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And I'm just going to go ahead and say it.
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I think of all of the premonition deaths, Dennis gets
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it the worst. I know it's not how he actually
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died, but in the premonition how he's going to have the hot tar
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poured on him. Oh yeah, yeah.
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God damn, dude. Yeah, that's tough.
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But the great thing about this movie, it was a complete and
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total mind fuck, and it shouldn't have been.
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There were so many clues that this was late 90s, early 2000s.
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So I remember I went to see this in the theater with one of our
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very, very good friends, the person that actually married us.
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Yeah. And we came out of the theater
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and we're like, what the fuck? When you find out that this was
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actually a prequel the whole time and I was like making notes
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of all of the clues that were there.
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OK, so they're especially like some good music references cuz
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when Molly pulls up, she's playing every yeah, I will buy
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you a new life. That was a hit in the late 90s.
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You referred it on the radio at that time.
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But see, The thing is, a lot of these are like plausible in
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today's time too. Yeah, which is a good.
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It's good that it's ambiguous like that, but yeah.
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Yes, and I was actually going to talk about how, like, some of it
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is, you know, like, ambiguous. Yeah.
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And the band member that drops Olivia off says that he likes
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the glasses. She looks very Lisa Loeb.
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Not that nobody in, you know, the 20 tens would know who Lisa
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Loeb is, but more just like that was that much more timely.
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Late 90s or early 2000s. Yeah, for sure.
20:55
We see Candace's school. They were the 1994 national
20:59
champions. And again, it's like, well,
21:02
yeah, they're going to keep their penance up even, you know,
21:04
if it's been 2 decades, say one. But it does make it seem that
21:10
much more competitive for somebody who's been doing
21:12
gymnastics their entire life. Yeah, for sure.
21:15
We also have Isaac, who is the head of IT, and he's got a flip
21:20
phone. And technology is very cyclical.
21:23
I've got a flip phone right now because it is currently cool
21:26
again, but you know, like usually IT guys are either going
21:31
to be like so possessive and obsessive about their security
21:36
that they're going to like, you know, want to have something
21:38
that is not super usably, you know, whatever, or they want the
21:43
like top of the line stuff. Another thing from for that
21:47
phone that I read was that the ringtone that he has too is one
21:50
of those like old. It's like the very basic
21:54
ringtone that we used to have when phones first started coming
21:57
out. I don't pay attention to
21:58
ringtones in movies because they're so very rarely like,
22:02
relatable. Yeah, that's for sure.
22:05
I feel like see and now if they were ever trying to do like a
22:07
movie where it was like mid 2000s and they're trying to make
22:11
it ambiguous, you would have like songs as ringtones.
22:14
It's a birthday school, why don't you pick up your phone?
22:18
God, I forget that's what happened in that movie too.
22:20
Yeah, also, and this wasn't like a hint.
22:24
I mean, it was kind of a hint, but like, so that is one of the
22:28
things you just. Slap yourself at the end.
22:33
Like how did I not fucking think of this?
22:35
Yes. And like when I see like as I'm
22:37
writing them all down, I'm like, man, I feel really stupid that I
22:41
did not figure this out, but I like it.
22:43
I like it when in hindsight something is obvious.
22:46
It's so awesome. Yeah, it makes you like that.
22:48
It's like they got me those fuckers.
22:50
Fuckers. There's one more thing.
22:52
The coupon that he gets from the person's drawer has an
22:55
expiration date of 2000. See, and I didn't even look at
22:59
the expiration date. Yeah, that's a good one.
23:01
Yeah. So it was there.
23:03
They weren't trying to hide it. No, they weren't.
23:06
It was in plain sight, but just not like it was very fine
23:09
detail. God damn pun.
23:13
No, it's not. I'm not trying to make fun of
23:15
anybody that has to wear glasses.
23:18
Is that what you're saying? Plain sight.
23:20
Plain because they get on Flight 180 at the end.
23:24
Oh God, no. I'm too stupid for that, Jesse.
23:26
Like I didn't even get what you were implying there.
23:29
Come on. Like, I'm sorry you need
23:31
glasses. Nobody's having the worst day of
23:34
their lives today. Everybody have the worst day at
23:37
work. Yeah, OK.
23:40
You got anything else to add? No, I just, I love this movie a
23:43
lot. OK, yeah, yeah, This is one of
23:45
the better ones in the series for me too.
23:48
I think this one has probably the best blend of comedy and
23:52
tension than any of the other ones too.
23:55
And I got to also add, from like a note taking perspective, that
23:59
opening premonition was amazing. I have never had more notes on
24:03
an opening premonition in this entire series.
24:05
It was the longest one too, until Final Destination 6 came
24:09
out. Yeah.
24:10
But yeah, this was, this one was the the longest for a while
24:13
there. One of the things that I really
24:16
thought was cool about this one, Sam doesn't get any premonitions
24:20
for any of the people's deaths. Yeah, we don't.
24:23
He doesn't like he nobody. He doesn't get any signs
24:26
whatsoever. People are just dying around
24:27
him, which I thought was interesting.
24:29
I kind of like that a little bit better.
24:30
Really. Well, and I think just keeping
24:31
you on your toes a little bit more.
24:33
Yeah, and I think that makes sense because we kind of talked
24:35
in the last one about how the lore grows a little bit with
24:37
each sequel. Yeah, so they like made it more
24:40
bare bones for. This one because he's a prequel.
24:42
Yeah. And I also, that also explains
24:44
why there isn't, you know, the, the, the, what is the word that
24:49
I'm trying to think of where it's mandatory, the whatever,
24:55
but we don't have anybody been like, I did some research on
24:57
this and like a few years ago there was just flight 180.
25:01
In every single movie. Yeah, we don't have it in this,
25:03
but The thing is like compulsory, OK, we don't have
25:05
the compulsory Flight 180 reference, but.
25:08
The thing is, we know that there were past events because of the
25:11
next movie. We go back in time a little bit
25:13
further. That's not like a spoiler or
25:15
anything. By the way, yeah.
25:17
It was a thing there. But the thing that I like is
25:21
this protagonist doesn't doesn't care.
25:23
Yeah, he cares enough to where he's like, he maps it out, but
25:26
whenever he figures shit out, he's like, I'm accepting it.
25:29
I don't give. A shit, yeah.
25:30
He's like, this is what's happening.
25:32
I also like that he did not want to be in his apartment when
25:35
Molly was like, shouldn't we be playing it?
25:37
Say he goes, if I'm going to die, I'm going to die at least.
25:39
No, I yeah, I like, I like cooking.
25:41
It was, that was refreshing. I like seeing like a different
25:45
reaction from one of the protagonists this time around.
25:48
So that was kind of cool. Another cool thing that's
25:50
different. The agent believes them this
25:52
time. Kind of.
25:54
But he like, he knows, like, he's like, he's like, I know
25:57
that you guys aren't doing this shit, but I know that you know
26:00
something. And that is enough for him to be
26:02
keeping an eye out for them. And then when he goes in there,
26:05
unfortunately he dies. I think he would have been fully
26:07
on board with the whole thing though.
26:09
He knew something supernatural was going.
26:11
On he would have become a Kate Lockley.
26:13
OK Oh yeah. From Buffy.
26:15
Heard about Angel. Angel.
26:16
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, you know, that's
26:19
that's just one of the things about this movie, is it?
26:21
It does enough difference with what, with how they go about
26:26
writing these characters at these scenarios that it was
26:30
refreshing. And then that ending, just to
26:32
cap it all off was so awesome. This one is one of the best
26:35
ones. OK, yeah, I agree with all that
26:38
all. Right, bad stuff.
26:40
I am really confused about everybody's ages because.
26:46
I think they're like fresh out of.
26:48
College young, yes, but like Peter is like the assistant
26:53
manager and like I know that they make a whole point about
26:57
Nathan. He's like fresh from school.
26:59
I assume he's got a master. 'S See, now this is an era right
27:02
here where college degrees meant shit like it actually meant
27:06
something in the like, 2000, yeah.
27:08
That's why we were told to get college degrees, because back
27:11
then it matters. Even a bachelor's degree, they'd
27:12
be like, this guy's getting promoted top of the fucking
27:15
company. CEO own material right here.
27:18
You got a bachelor's in psychology.
27:20
Some days I just look at my masters on the wall and think of
27:24
the lies of my earning potentials.
27:27
The biggest like rug pulled out from under us of all time I
27:30
think. Oh cool, this is just like a
27:33
really expensive piece of paper. That's fine.
27:35
But it's the truth like this and this era right here, a degree
27:38
actually got you like good jobs out out of college.
27:41
So I I believe it the same thing with Nathan here.
27:44
He just graduated and he's become like part of the.
27:47
Plan. Yeah, he's assistant plant
27:48
manager. Well, either way, like still,
27:50
that's really good. Fresh out of college.
27:53
Yeah, OK. OK, yeah, so I'm confused by
27:58
their ages. I'm confused by how long Sam and
28:01
Molly have been together. They seem like college
28:03
sweethearts. But it also seems like when he's
28:06
like, this is my brother's wedding.
28:07
Like, is this like her first time meeting is family?
28:11
I kind of get like a sense of that.
28:12
Maybe I don't know, but it's some kind of shitty of her to be
28:15
like I'm not going out of the blue.
28:16
Didn't even just. Cancelled her own ticket, Yeah.
28:18
Shitty dude, red flag. Which that should also be like a
28:22
hint for her to be able to easily cancel a ticket that
28:25
somebody else bought. True, yeah.
28:28
But yeah, those are really like the.
28:31
I'm just I'm confused about the character timelines of things.
28:36
I understand the story timeline, but it's like the interpersonal
28:40
dynamics I'm confused about. I got you.
28:42
The only thing that I could really complain about with this
28:44
movie is I feel like they strayed further into the CG
28:49
deaths the summer round. I miss the practical deaths,
28:52
dude. You know, like like just go
28:54
practical effects with this shit and it would be so much more
28:58
effective. I think whenever you like
28:59
because the CG dates it. Yeah, it definitely.
29:02
Does the thing that always gets me every single time is that
29:05
shot at the end of the premonition where Sam is cut in
29:08
half by that sheet of metal and like the zoom into his eye, you
29:13
can tell that's just like a CGI created version of his torso and
29:17
it just, it's jarring. Yeah.
29:19
And just go practical. Even if you go practical and it
29:22
doesn't look 100% accurate, it always ages better.
29:26
Just in my personal opinion, that's really bad.
29:29
I could say bad. Why so?
29:30
OK, ugly. Isaac.
29:34
That's exactly where I wrote Isaac is a fucking asshole in.
29:37
This he is a sex fest. He's a racist.
29:39
Yeah. He's just.
29:42
I just don't like him. He's pretty bad, man.
29:45
He's ugly. Yeah.
29:47
All right. Well then, absurd.
29:48
Absurd. I'm trying to think of like, oh,
29:56
OK, this isn't absurd and it's not necessarily the fault of the
29:59
movie. Maybe.
30:00
I don't know. I don't know who's responsible
30:01
for the captions. But near the end, at one point,
30:04
Sam is trying to let the head chef know that he's accepting
30:08
the internship in Paris. And when he was like chef and
30:11
the chef responds, we and the captions, captions, it speaks
30:18
French. I know the bare minimum.
30:20
You don't even have to know French to know what we means and
30:23
say we. Everybody said what the fuck,
30:25
captions and Travis had missed it and he said oh, did they
30:28
spell it WE? And I was like, no, somehow
30:32
worse than that. Man, that was so funny.
30:37
I've got a lot of beef. Since we've mentioned Angel
30:39
already, we are at like the 5th or 6th episode.
30:42
The J August Richards has been in the show.
30:45
He is now a part of the opening title.
30:49
Oh yeah and they still anytime he speaks off screen they still
30:54
caption him as a man. He has been a named character
30:59
for multiple episodes. It's so.
31:03
True. Man, that's bad.
31:05
Captions are trying me this week.
31:09
Yeah, it's funny. That was so funny.
31:12
When that happened I was like, it's like shout factory level.
31:15
Sort of speaks French, speaks French.
31:18
We all know we we like see speaks Spanish like.
31:25
No speaks Spanish. No speaks French.
31:33
OK, no speaks English. That would be even better if it
31:38
speaks English. This.
31:39
Is the captions for the entire. Movie.
31:41
Yeah, No effort. Somebody just don't.
31:44
Like that shit? Speaks English.
31:45
Speaks English. OK, the only episode I had was
31:50
the fact that they they didn't pull any research like in past
31:55
movies with this one. And it's like, I know that that
31:57
shit has to happen. They make that shit.
31:59
The thing, the thing that always gets me is like there's always
32:02
documentation about this shit in the past in these movies.
32:07
But like who the fuck is like making records of like the
32:09
premonitions and stuff like that?
32:12
Well, we see with the Flight 180, there are a lot of
32:16
newspaper articles talking about Alex's premonition.
32:20
I think that was the first one that was like a really big like
32:24
documented event. No, I think that they do the
32:27
same with the next movie too. That one, I don't know if it's
32:35
we'll have to, we'll have to rewatch, but because that one is
32:37
so far in the past. OK The thing is I I'm surprised
32:42
that it didn't become a story in the The Final Destination, the
32:48
first one because they are so big on researching this shit in
32:52
that movie. Alex is so into like looking
32:55
into all of that stuff. Surely he would have found
32:57
something about this. I think it, I think it would
33:00
depend on how that first one was reported.
33:03
If it was reported as national news or local news, I know you
33:07
are not there yet, but they're. They seem to be in the same area
33:10
because they leave from the same airport, so either way he should
33:15
be aware. We'll, we'll talk about it next
33:18
month for sure. But I'm just like thinking of
33:21
the like 1950s research being done in 11/22/63.
33:29
Oh, OK, I can't talk about. That yeah.
33:32
So I'm just like, I don't know if it was local news, maybe it
33:36
would be harder to find if it was before, you know, like.
33:40
So I want to say they cast those people so well at the end of the
33:44
movie. Like for the longest time I
33:46
thought that that actually was like, I thought that they used
33:49
like footage from the first movie, did they not?
33:51
No, it's recasted people because I I got a better look at the
33:54
character Alex's face. That is not Devin Salwa, but it
33:57
looks a lot like him. Oh my God, yeah, that's yeah.
34:00
No, I just assumed it was like at the beginning of Fast X.
34:03
No, because they also have like a shot, like Sam is in the shot
34:07
in that right there. But like, when you look at it,
34:09
it's different people entirely. Wow.
34:11
Yeah, OK. Yep, I'm pretty sure at least
34:14
now I'm second guessing myself. But I, I, I'm pretty confident
34:17
either way. Let's move.
34:17
On. Yeah, let's move on.
34:18
All right. What are you rating it?
34:20
I'm rating it a nine. Me too.
34:21
Yeah, this is a great. One, this is a really, it's a
34:24
really strong entry. OK, let's let's get in go.
34:29
I will say I hate the opening credits on this one.
34:32
It's so basic. It's so basic, the lettering is
34:34
very poorly kerned and also like the music feels flat to me, like
34:39
we don't have our normal wait. Was that like for all of them?
34:43
I feel like that was only the 4th movie.
34:45
It was the same like tune to it, but it was a lot flatter because
34:50
I remember like I was listening for her.
34:52
I was like, I want those like punches.
34:54
I want. The it's a little bit more
34:55
subdued. Yeah, OK.
34:59
Yeah, and emotions. Yeah, like it's me at work when
35:01
I'm trying to like, push through the last 30 minutes of the day.
35:04
Yeah. OK.
35:05
So we're at presage, presage, presage, whatever.
35:11
It's an employee retreat. We got breakfast.
35:14
We got pancakes. Sam, Sam, Sam made a whole
35:18
little spread in. Peter was like, I just thought
35:20
you were going to bring us stale Donuts and you would have been
35:22
OK with that. Peter, that sounds like
35:24
something you could have done then, if you're going to be
35:25
bringing that shit in. Yourself, my boy, is management
35:28
material. He's like, I thought you were
35:29
going to bring pizzas, I thought.
35:32
We would get cold pizza with no variety on the topping, so if
35:35
you have allergy and dietary restrictions, a few.
35:39
Yeah. And like Sam's like, yeah, By
35:42
the way, do you think this will make up for my bad sales
35:45
numbers? And he's like, have you seen
35:47
them, by the way? He's like, yeah, I've seen them.
35:48
He's like as your friends get your shit together, as your boss
35:52
and ready to fire you. Yeah, and he's also trying to
35:55
make a decision between being a professional chef or if he's
35:58
going to be sales guy. Yeah, which?
36:02
Which one do you have passion for?
36:03
Dude, sales guy sucks. I'm just sales fucking sucks.
36:06
I've done like I've. I've dipped my toes in there.
36:09
Not for me. I hate it.
36:10
Molly pulls up and Sam's like, I got to go take care of my
36:13
relationship issues. And he's like, why did you
36:15
cancel a ticket to fly to my brother's wedding?
36:18
And she was like, listen, this just isn't working out.
36:20
She dumped him right before this weekend.
36:23
Corporate retreat. She dude, like save yourself the
36:26
trouble. She is like giving you all kinds
36:28
of red flags right there. You do not want to live your
36:30
life with that person. She like the the type of person
36:34
that would do something like that.
36:35
Nah. I get where her heart is about
36:38
like he is holding back on his dreams for me and I don't want
36:41
to be responsible for that. I've I get that.
36:46
I don't think the way she did it was awesome.
36:48
I get where she's coming from with it.
36:50
The thing is, it could all be fixed by a simple conversation,
36:53
which we'll have later in this movie.
36:55
Yeah, well, and that's something I guess I could have added that
36:57
to my absurd How had they never talked about the possibility of
37:01
Molly moving with him to Paris? There's How had that not come
37:05
up? Which is what makes me wonder
37:06
how long they've actually been together.
37:07
They're young, dumb, and in love.
37:10
Are they that in love though? No, I don't think so.
37:14
So Dennis pulls up and he has Sam run to go get Nathan.
37:19
Who? You've skipped over so many
37:21
people. We have other.
37:23
People Candace comes up, she is an intern.
37:26
She is dating Peter. Olivia gets dropped off by a
37:30
band member and he reminds her to bring her glasses with her.
37:35
She was really celeb and says we have a gig next week and she's
37:39
like, yeah, I'll be there and then.
37:41
Her and Candace have like a little bit of back and forth.
37:43
Here it was. It was kind of a weird bit of
37:45
back and forth because it doesn't play into anything
37:47
later. It really doesn't.
37:48
I would have liked to see more of their like relationship.
37:52
Yeah, for sure. Me too.
37:53
And then Isaac is just, in general, a sex fest.
37:56
He is bugging Molly when she's clearly upset and he's like hey,
38:00
talk to me about it, right? And then Dennis is like, what's
38:04
the one thing we can't recycle? Peter?
38:07
Waste of time. So Sam runs to go get Nathan who
38:11
is fighting with the union Rep Roy who is mad that like he just
38:16
started 3 weeks ago and he's already going to be off for a
38:18
few days. Dude, it's not his call.
38:20
Yeah, like if you're going to be mad, some might be mad at his
38:22
superior that hired him. Yeah.
38:24
And like, The thing is, I kind of, I feel really bad for Nathan
38:27
because he has clearly not received any kind of management
38:29
training and he does not know how to talk to this union.
38:32
And he's just. Look, I understand both of them.
38:36
I understand somebody just coming in out of the blue and
38:39
like, you know, jumping you for something like that.
38:41
Yeah. But at the same time, you know,
38:44
be like whatever. I don't like that's the type of
38:47
shit talking you do with your coworkers.
38:49
Yeah. Why was he off for two days but
38:51
he just got here? Unions man, they fucking protect
38:54
you. Yeah, unions are great.
38:57
That's right. So Sam is Off has been offered a
39:01
full time position at the flagship restaurant in Paris,
39:05
but he was worried he was going to be leaving too much behind.
39:09
But now he's not sure that there's anything to leave
39:12
behind. No.
39:13
So now they're on the bus, they're heading towards the
39:16
corporate retreats. We get a couple of little Easter
39:19
eggs on the drive there. We get a walk truck that passes
39:21
by. Yep, Yep, Yep.
39:24
And then he's he's watching the video there.
39:26
It's the 180 consulting firm that they're going.
39:29
To 180 Corporate Consulting there is a bridge doing
39:33
construction and the bus radio plays dust in the wind and it
39:41
just God this is so stressful because you can see a hole
39:45
through the bridge down into the water.
39:48
I hate that shot man. It's so stressful, Yeah.
39:50
And like, they're, you know, driving and we're just seeing,
39:53
you know, various things. And you're like, this feels
39:54
really unsafe. And it feels like maybe there's
39:56
not enough lanes closed to doing this bridge work safely.
40:01
And as somebody is, like, sawing through some of the concrete, a
40:04
big crack forms, and then several of the suspension cables
40:08
snap. Yeah.
40:09
It's because of like a big gust of wind comes by too.
40:11
It causes all this to happen. And what's his name?
40:17
Sam. He he gets off the bus.
40:19
He's getting everybody off the bus before there's he only grabs
40:21
Molly. Well, yeah.
40:23
Because he's only wanting to save Molly.
40:24
Everybody else is like, you can come if you want to, but I'm
40:26
taking Molly. Yeah.
40:27
And so they they all run off except for Isaac, Yeah.
40:31
He was like, we went to the bathroom to have a private
40:33
conversation on this phone. Yeah, he was just like, yeah,
40:36
I'm on some dumb retreat with these Dicks from work.
40:39
So that right in front of Dennis.
40:40
Dennis. Dennis.
40:42
So. Yeah, OK, so first to die.
40:46
Let's see. Let's see.
40:47
It's Candace. Yeah, Candace is, she falls and
40:50
is in like, because the bridge starts kind of like buckling.
40:55
She falls and she's impaled on a sailing boat mast.
40:59
Then Isaac is still in the bus. He comes out as the bus itself
41:02
is falling and he like crashes, you know, hits the water really
41:06
hard. He's killed from that impact
41:08
slash drowning. Olivia loses her glasses much
41:13
like Velma of yore, and she's she's crawling along unable to
41:18
see. I have some beef with how they
41:23
show Olivia's blind POV cause like the blurriness, yeah 'cause
41:28
they do the blurry in and out, like with her heartbeat.
41:31
Oh, that's weird. Yeah, yeah, that's just.
41:33
That's not how bad vision works like your.
41:36
Vision is tied to your. Heartbeat.
41:37
And it's not, it's not like oh, she needs better blood flow to
41:41
her eyes to see. That's not how it works.
41:43
They basically did it like a fucking war movie where like a
41:46
bomb like a bomb went off next to her and she shell shocked or.
41:49
Something like. Ears.
41:53
It's just that's just how her eyes are like.
41:55
Yeah, she's like, she's like Cordelia.
42:00
She's having a vision. OK.
42:05
So yeah, Molly has crossed this beam that is there for them to
42:09
like, get to the other side of the bridge, and now Olivia has
42:12
to crawl across without being able to see much.
42:14
And Sam is trying to guide her across, except the bridge just
42:18
keeps buckling. So even though she gets to the
42:20
other half of the beam, because there's a little bit of a gap,
42:23
she it's enough that she slides down.
42:25
She falls into the water. And she's actually like she's
42:28
fallen in a way that it hasn't killed her, even though it's a
42:31
pretty far fall. But then a car falls on top of
42:35
her. She falls into a river and still
42:38
manages to get hit by a car. That sucks for her.
42:41
Yeah. So Nate is next.
42:42
He's whacked by a cable just out of the blue.
42:44
That like from the bridge. Yeah, out.
42:47
Oh his was so quick I even missed it at my notes.
42:50
Then we get Dennis, who falls and he's like hanging to the
42:54
side of the bridge, and then the tar from one of the machines
42:58
spills. I think it's like the pavement
42:59
that they're doing to try and like redo the Yeah.
43:02
Either way, it gets all over him and fries him.
43:06
It had to be it had to be so stinky.
43:08
Like they retar the the Senior Center parking lot like once
43:14
every year or two near our house and every time I drive past it
43:17
after work it's like it's. Almost 2.
43:19
Weeks it smells. Awful.
43:20
Yeah, it's it's not that great. So followed by that we have.
43:26
Peter and, yeah, Peter and Sam are jumping to like, the railing
43:30
on the side, and they're doing a very poor job of trying to,
43:34
like, climb it like a ladder. That's what they need to.
43:36
But they're like, no, this is we upper body strength only glamour
43:41
muscles, bro. And as they're doing that, like
43:45
a truck is falling and some rebar falls out, impales Peter.
43:51
And then Sam goes, Oh no, and then aluminum siding or she a
43:56
sheet of aluminum siding or aluminum something falls and
43:58
cuts him in half as you were saying.
44:00
Peter's by the way, they do like an extra little bit of fuck you
44:04
because he falls also and it's just that shot of him hid and
44:07
his head wax the side of like the pavement at the bottom.
44:10
I actually I kind of like that as a little exclamation point.
44:13
I liked it too. I liked it too, but it's just.
44:15
Like a little fuck you. Well, he kind of deserves in
44:18
this movie. Well, he didn't deserve it at
44:20
this point. No, but I'm OK with him.
44:23
It's OK. All right, so.
44:24
We did. Maybe Death didn't know he was
44:27
going to be an asshole. Maybe Death actually was just
44:30
like, hey, this time I'm going to give this guy a premonition
44:33
because I need him to know that his friend deserves.
44:37
This, I mean, you made it kind of clear to me because Molly was
44:40
going to survive this no matter what.
44:41
She maybe, no, she doesn't die. She doesn't die here.
44:44
She didn't die in Sam's vision. We don't know that she wouldn't
44:48
have died after Sam. That's true, but I'm pretty sure
44:51
that she makes it. I just have to assume that.
44:53
Because I have to assume she doesn't because of how the movie
44:56
ends. Oh, no, Because of what you
44:59
said, I think that this was all part of Death's design anyways.
45:04
It's like he was bored and he's playing chess against himself,
45:06
and he's like, all right, I'm going to do this.
45:09
Oh, that's a good move. Like, I've never played this on
45:12
expert mode, Yeah. Like the whole point was to get
45:14
them to the plane. Yeah.
45:18
OK, so snap back to the reality. Well, there goes gravity.
45:21
Yep, because the bridge is falling and everybody's falling.
45:24
Yeah, Sam, Sam is like, all right, We're I'm getting off.
45:27
This whole thing is going to crash.
45:29
Molly, come with me. So far, the premonition is true,
45:32
except at this point, Dennis is like, God damn it, what did I
45:35
say about recycling? Wasted time.
45:38
So the the group of people who get off the bus afterwards kind
45:41
of doesn't make much. Sense To me this is the
45:43
flimsiest like exclusive people coming.
45:47
Off they just kind of hop off the bus, like what the hell is
45:49
going on out here? Like what?
45:50
What business is this of yours? Why do you care?
45:53
You know, it just doesn't make much sense to me, like why Isaac
45:56
of all people is hopping off the bus.
45:57
Also, apparently there were 17 more people on that bus, but I
46:00
call bullshit on that. I know they say like it.
46:03
It wipes out their almost entire office.
46:05
Listen, I've been watching a lot of Dance Moms and if it's a
46:10
close enough competition for them to charter a bus instead of
46:14
going via plane, like their bus looks more full.
46:17
And that's just with the handful of team members and their moms.
46:21
There may have been multiple buses.
46:24
That bus wasn't even full though.
46:27
Was it not? No, they didn't pay attention.
46:29
No, so that's why so many people were able to sit by themselves.
46:32
Maybe they're the last of it. Maybe they're the last crew
46:34
right there. They get the free seats.
46:35
I don't know. I'm making too many excuses
46:37
right here. Doesn't matter.
46:39
Bridge collapses. Everybody makes it across safely
46:41
except for those that stayed on the bus.
46:43
Yeah. And they're like, how did you
46:45
know? And then it cut stage and block
46:46
saying, how did you know? He doesn't really believe that
46:50
it's a vision because it's, you know, too convenient.
46:52
But then the another agent comes in and is like, hey, yeah, so
46:57
it's being ruled an accident due to high winds and structural
47:00
damage. Before that, though, I loved
47:02
this whole bit of him interviewing each character
47:05
because the way it's cut. But also I like how he like when
47:08
he gets to the relationship and he asks Sam, he's like, so you
47:10
got dumped and he's like, what does that have to do with
47:12
anything? It's just like, it's this is
47:13
like a personal attack, man. Like people died.
47:15
Like why are you? Why are you grilling me about
47:17
getting dumped today? It's just this delivery.
47:20
Like, why does that have to do with anything?
47:22
It's so funny. God forgive me for, you know,
47:27
having a bad day. Yeah.
47:29
I'm sorry I saved some lives after I got broken up with.
47:33
If I had a premonition about the breakup, I would have tried to
47:36
stop that too. Dude that's a good ROM comrade.
47:40
Getting premonition about the breakup man I love it.
47:43
OK, so 86 people died on the bridge according to the news
47:48
those. Numbers, I believe.
47:50
Yeah, there's been more all being held as they are in all
47:52
Final Destination movies. Dennis I I love he's doing the
47:57
eulogy up there and he's listening off all of the people
48:00
that died that worked at the company, One of them he's.
48:03
Saying nice things about all of them, except for when he gets to
48:06
Isaac. Who could forget Isaac?
48:09
Isaac Palmer and I love Olivia and Nathan both laughing at it.
48:15
Yeah. And the guy behind him behind
48:17
them is very annoyed and guy. Beside them too.
48:20
He's giving them a stink eye. I come from a family where we
48:26
used our humor to cope. I would have done like, you know
48:29
what? I do what you need to do.
48:31
Yeah, time and. Place.
48:34
I get it. They're laughing.
48:35
He was memorialized and he was actually dead.
48:38
Also, Tony Todd is there and he tells them death is a petty
48:42
bitch. Yeah.
48:43
He imparts some wisdom on that right there.
48:46
So we get. Sam is chefing, yeah.
48:51
He's being a chef and his shift is over, so.
48:54
No, he gets. First of all, he gets a, he gets
48:58
a dish returned. I'm not going to.
49:00
I didn't write it down because it was too French speaks.
49:03
French speaks. French prepared.
49:10
And he says it's flat and the chef is like, let me taste it.
49:14
Wee. He's like, it is good.
49:18
Speaks English. The customer is an asshole.
49:21
He just straight up ate after this customer.
49:24
Yeah, I thought it was a little bit weird too.
49:26
But, you know, I think that they live a little bit weird there in
49:29
the restaurant industry. That's true.
49:33
These people are all drugged up back there, including Chef We.
49:37
We and then he goes to see Molly after.
49:40
She was like, I thought you were working the late shift.
49:44
All restaurant shifts are the late shifts.
49:47
It's raining, so the power is like flickering.
49:49
This feels very much like a call back to Miss Luton's death.
49:52
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
49:53
Yeah, because she's got the tea kettle going.
49:56
And he was like, listen, when that happened, the only thing I
49:58
could think of was you and getting you off that bridge and
50:01
keeping you safe. And she's like, I don't want you
50:05
skipping out on your plans because of me.
50:07
You should go to Paris. It's all you've ever dreamed
50:09
about. You shouldn't stay here just
50:11
because of me. Meanwhile, Candace is at
50:14
gymnastics practice. By the way, I read that her
50:17
actor is actually a trained gymnast.
50:19
OK, I was going to say, like, I feel like the extras in the
50:22
scene have to be like actual gymnastics.
50:24
One of them is like a Canadian competed for Team Canada.
50:27
OK, cool. Yeah, but like it, I have to
50:30
assume it was the one that was on the balance beam.
50:31
It was. Yeah, it was yeah or yeah.
50:33
Yeah, it had to be the balance beam.
50:35
Yeah, cuz she's actually doing a routine up there.
50:37
Yeah, cuz there are ways to cheat it when your main
50:40
character isn't, you know, an athlete of the type.
50:42
But I was going to be really impressed with her character.
50:47
But knowing that she's a gymnast that that makes sense.
50:50
So she's got like, you know, her good luck rituals, the rubber
50:53
bands on her wrists and 1 snaps and.
50:56
Bad. Luck.
50:57
And she's like nervous about it and Peter's like, listen, this
51:01
is your last practice of your college career.
51:03
You got nationals coming up. This will be good for you.
51:07
I get it. And yeah, you know, I would say
51:08
the same thing. And she's just like, honestly,
51:11
she's finding any excuse not to do it Like that.
51:14
Anxiety, like, I recognize it because I get very, like,
51:18
frantic when I'm anxious like that.
51:20
Like, oh, well, why is this thing broken?
51:22
Like, yeah, are we OK? Not only that, the AC is not
51:26
working. Yes, I'm not setting.
51:27
Up fans and stuff. Yeah, and she's complaining
51:29
about it and maintenance is working on the AC and it starts
51:33
dripping onto the very, very freight cord of this big ass
51:36
fan. Oh, I was reading the Fray and
51:39
the cord there. Apparently it's shaped like a
51:40
skull. I've never noticed that before.
51:43
I'd have to go back and look at it because it just looks like a
51:46
giant safety hazard and I can't believe like they didn't even
51:50
try and put electrical tape or something over.
51:51
It should be like we didn't know.
51:53
Yeah. And also one of the people like
51:56
turns on the AC unit up top as they're trying to repair it and
51:59
it causes a screw from the top all the way down onto the
52:01
balance beam. I call bullshit on it, like I
52:04
can get it it's desk design, but there's no way that's screwed
52:06
in. Have you ever tried to change
52:08
anything with a screw in your household?
52:10
Those things bounce like a mother fucker.
52:12
They do, yeah. They get lost so easily.
52:14
And I've been especially plagued by this because I am on a streak
52:20
of just replacing all of our outlets plates and our light
52:24
switch plates. It's you have to be real careful
52:27
with them. Oh yeah, that's true.
52:29
So yeah, we got, we got our nice little setup going on here.
52:32
So we got some people doing the type beams, and this person is
52:36
doing her whole routine or balance beam, whatever.
52:39
Yeah, she's doing the balance beam.
52:41
What? It's not whatever.
52:43
We know what I meant. The balance beam.
52:47
The balance beam is where she's at.
52:49
What is happening? She does her routine.
52:51
It's good. She doesn't step on the screw.
52:54
So we're like sitting here looking at all these possible
52:57
options and we're like, don't know what's going to cause
52:59
accident. She's up next on the uneven
53:01
bars. Yeah, she chalks up.
53:03
She's doing it. The coaches are not giving very
53:05
good coaching advice. I wonder if this comes back to.
53:08
You. What were they saying?
53:09
All right. Good job, Candace.
53:12
Work it out. Go hard.
53:14
She didn't even get a very good vertical on the bar like that
53:16
should have been like fix your vertical Candace.
53:19
And the person that was doing like the flips off of the what
53:23
is it where they're like going back and forth, like they're
53:25
like flipping up and down and then they like launch themselves
53:27
up to another bar and then they're like doing flips and
53:30
they have to like flip all the way off of it and do flips.
53:32
The dismount. I said flips like.
53:35
I didn't know which. Gymnastics.
53:37
That's just gymnastics at its core.
53:40
But like, where you're like, you have to, goddamn it.
53:42
This is also part of every routine.
53:44
But like, where you have to, like, flip and then land and
53:47
then land perfect dismount. Yeah, I promise.
53:52
I respect the sport. I enjoy watching it.
53:55
We've watched it. Yeah.
53:56
Like it's a good sport. It's super crazy what they do.
54:00
I don't know all the terminology.
54:02
Look, it would be the same. Do you know any of the
54:04
terminology? It would be the same if like in
54:06
baseball, the batter's box, if you would have called that the
54:09
beatbox, I would have been cool with that because you do beat
54:11
the ball out-of-the-box. You know, it's the same thing.
54:16
But like this is like the flip the flip rod.
54:24
Look, I swear to God I respect gymnasts.
54:26
I promise you I do. I just don't know all the
54:31
terminology. I said I'm exclusively referring
54:34
to uneven bars from now. On flip rods.
54:36
Flip rods. I know the mounts or the vault.
54:41
There you go. There we go.
54:42
Yeah, there we go. Either way.
54:47
So Depths Motion's going. One of the people slips.
54:53
She lands on the nail. Yes, the person that was on the
54:55
balance beam after Candace lands on the screw which causes her to
55:00
fall because it goes like all the way up in her heel.
55:02
She knocks over the chalk bowl which falls into where the fan
55:08
is. The fan shoots all of the chalk
55:10
dust over to the flip bars and. Which is where Candace is.
55:15
And Candace bails out of her dismount very poorly.
55:18
Yeah, like so poorly. She dies.
55:20
Yes, she like breaks all of her bones.
55:23
I'm going to relate to Ken or not Ken.
55:25
Olivia here and like say I'm surprised that shit doesn't
55:27
happen more often. How does that shit not happen
55:30
more often? In a weird way it's almost like
55:33
Olivia respects the sport cuz she's like, do you see the
55:36
insane stuff? I respect.
55:39
It's insane. I got to see people do that
55:41
show. I'm like, how do you not have
55:42
like life altering injuries every so often?
55:45
You know, it boils my mind. Well you definitely have life
55:48
altering injuries, it's the life ending ones that are more rare.
55:51
I'm well, life altering injuries happen in all sports, but I feel
55:55
like it would. I feel like that rate that would
55:57
happen with gymnastics, gymnastics should be higher.
56:00
Well, I mean, and that's why they do things like Simone
56:02
Giles, who is like without exaggeration or cliche, she is
56:07
the greatest gymnast of all time.
56:09
She has done such difficult stunts that they will
56:13
purposefully underrate the stunt she does because they don't want
56:18
other gymnasts who do not have the same level of skill as her
56:21
to try and do it, so that way they get a higher starting
56:24
score. I understand that, but I think
56:26
that's kind of bullshit. So like neuter somebody for
56:29
their skill. Yes, no, I definitely agree.
56:32
But that's that's why they do it is because they don't want other
56:34
gymnasts to be like, well, I'm going to do the stunts.
56:37
That way I have like a higher possible total score.
56:39
That's so stupid. It would be like in baseball, be
56:40
like, you can't pitch 105 mph because I have this Troye
56:43
pitcher's arm. If you can fucking do it, do it.
56:46
OK, whatever we're getting. Off.
56:47
Yes, we're yeah. OK, so he she's dead.
56:50
Yeah. Sam stops by to comfort Peter,
56:54
and Peter is just in disbelief. He feels guilty because he
56:57
encouraged her to do the practice.
56:59
Yeah, he was like, she didn't want to, and I made her.
57:01
Yeah, and then Sam sees Blood Worth in the background.
57:06
Yeah. This is they don't know he's the
57:07
coroner yet and they just he's just showing up at all these
57:10
random. Oh, this is a creepy guy.
57:12
I. Would understand that would be
57:13
creeped out too. OK.
57:17
So they're at pre Sage and it looks like they were trying to
57:20
like box up some desks. Just people.
57:23
They're they're showing up at work, but they're really not
57:25
doing anything. And like, I get that.
57:28
Yeah, because I've I've been there.
57:30
Unfortunately there we had a Co worker pass away.
57:33
This was several years ago, but I still remember that day at
57:35
work because like, we all still had to work, but we're just like
57:39
going through the motions. Yeah, cuz it's just like it's
57:43
it's weird. I'm sure I've never had that
57:45
happen, but I can only imagine it'd be strange.
57:48
And yeah, everybody's just come talking in the office there, and
57:51
they noticed Peter's just kind of being like they're surprised
57:54
that he's there. Yeah, but he's just needing a
57:56
distraction, so. I do like Dennis in the office.
57:58
He's talking to somebody from corporate about all the steps he
58:01
needs to do and he's like, shouldn't this be the like
58:03
administrative manager? He's like the administrative
58:06
manager is dead. Dennis, He's like, Are you sure
58:09
you don't need somebody from corporate to come out?
58:11
Like, listen, even if Dennis was a competent manager, the fact
58:15
that like so many people like that's a, there's a lot to
58:19
process with that type of thing. I mean paperwork wise, not just
58:21
emotionally but like. And also responsibility wise,
58:24
sharing commands like who does who's doing what here.
58:27
Yeah, like you should send somebody from corporate to
58:29
assist either way. Yeah, like that should be a
58:31
thing that you do, but. Well, they're all just kind.
58:33
Of corporate and a corporate. Yeah, they're all up there.
58:36
Just kind of chilling now. And then Nate comes up up, he's
58:39
got that six pack that he stole from Roy.
58:41
So they're all like, hell yeah, let's make today interesting.
58:43
And then Peter's like, I've got some alcohol to drop some whole
58:46
bottle. It's like I'm going to drink
58:48
this here with you guys or else I'm going to get drunk all by
58:50
myself and. That's just sad.
58:51
Like I'm going to be sad drunk either way.
58:53
I can be sad drunk with friends, or really really drunk and sad
58:56
by myself. Peter is the type of sad drunk
58:58
that you don't want to be around though.
59:00
Yeah. He is like one of those
59:01
destructive. Peter's the guy that like you
59:04
invite out because you're like, he just lost his girlfriend.
59:07
That's really bad. Let's try and get him like out
59:09
of the house. And then it's you're like, oh,
59:11
no, this is not the environment Peter needed to be in.
59:15
This is not it. And Isaac has gone through desks
59:19
and he found that coupon that we should have clocked from RPOV as
59:23
being expired. Oh.
59:26
Yeah, Yep. So he wonders over there, and he
59:28
redeems it. Hold on.
59:33
Oh, OK, never mind. There's a lot of back and forth
59:35
with this. Yeah, yeah, cuz like also while
59:37
this is happening, Olivia's like her rides showed.
59:40
Up. Yeah, she's gonna leave.
59:41
Yeah, but as she's leaving, she knocks over her picture that's
59:44
on her desk and it's like a little.
59:45
This is the one premonition we get in this movie of like an
59:47
upcoming death, I think. Yeah.
59:49
Which is just her eye is like shattered over.
59:52
Yeah, everybody else does a toast except for Peter.
59:56
He is sad and then he's angry. He throws some shit against the
1:00:00
wall. So Dennis calls Detective or
1:00:02
Angel Agent Block about his outbursts.
1:00:05
And he keeps just calling him a random stuff.
1:00:07
Yeah, and like, I'm sure like I can, you can tell that Block is
1:00:11
annoyed, but also he is still taking it seriously.
1:00:14
This. Has probably been the 10th call,
1:00:15
yeah. So, yeah.
1:00:16
So Peter just got mad. He's like, is that weird?
1:00:19
He's like, I mean, probably not like.
1:00:23
Like call me when something. Actually happens.
1:00:26
So Isaac goes to this massage parlor and he is just full of
1:00:31
microaggression. Yeah, I mean, he's just being
1:00:34
racist, sexist, all kinds of shit here.
1:00:37
He's very strongly implying he's wanting to get a hand job
1:00:42
instead of an actual massage. Yeah, so like they take, she's
1:00:46
like, oh, I know exactly what you need.
1:00:48
So she takes him back, gets him on the table, and then he closes
1:00:52
his eyes, opens it up, and it's like one of the elder employees.
1:00:56
Her name is Cho Cho, which interestingly, the captions give
1:01:00
us her name. Speaks Chinese.
1:01:03
Yes. Yes.
1:01:05
But like she's actually speaking like they.
1:01:08
Actually, give us some time for what?
1:01:09
She's saying this time around. Actually put some effort into
1:01:12
it. They just must hate the French.
1:01:14
Apparently. Fuck in Paris.
1:01:17
So yeah, she's being very aggressive.
1:01:20
She's like realigning his spine and show like that and.
1:01:24
He seems shocked and upset, but also like when she's done
1:01:27
cracking his bones he's like, actually I feel pretty good.
1:01:30
I feel like I could use that. It felt like it looked like it
1:01:32
would be, really. Yeah, like that first back crack
1:01:35
I just went. Yeah, and then she follows it up
1:01:38
with some acupuncture. And he, I will give.
1:01:42
I will agree with him on this one thing.
1:01:44
Please, please, for the love of God, can we get new needles or
1:01:48
at least disinfect these? Yeah.
1:01:51
Yeah. And so she does.
1:01:52
And here's The thing is that some people can understand a
1:01:54
language that they can't speak it.
1:01:55
So when he's like you do speak English, he doesn't know for
1:02:01
sure that she speaks English. Just could have like, it's like
1:02:04
when we're talking Italia like. Yeah, we as the audience know
1:02:08
she speaks English because she says in Chinese with actual
1:02:12
translated captions. Of course I speak English, but
1:02:14
why would I want to talk to you? Yeah.
1:02:16
Toshi OK. So one of these days, son, you
1:02:21
are going to have to teach me Japanese.
1:02:25
So she's like, OK, fall asleep for 30 minutes, I'll be back.
1:02:29
And she moves his phone to the other side because she's like no
1:02:31
distractions sleep. Yes.
1:02:33
So he starts to well, she lets an instance.
1:02:37
Before she leaves the instance, kind of, it erupts into a fire.
1:02:42
It doesn't erupt. So it is not like the ash falls
1:02:46
instead of into the tray. It falls onto a book that is
1:02:48
below the incense holder that catches on fire and he is
1:02:53
shouting, hey, there's a fire in here.
1:02:55
And the walls are very thick, which we have noted because he
1:02:58
was being gross when he came in and said I'm very noisy.
1:03:01
I hope these walls are thick. So he's like, oh God, there's a
1:03:05
fire. One of the legs on the table had
1:03:09
come loose. So he tries to move.
1:03:11
The whole table buckles under him and he falls more of those
1:03:15
needles, like they go really far into him and they bend.
1:03:19
Some of them are right there at his heart.
1:03:21
Yeah, And it's, listen, I agree it's an issue.
1:03:25
I agree it's something that needs to be taken care of.
1:03:27
You're in a room with a fire, Slowly pull out these needles.
1:03:30
Once you're out of that room, if he stops to pull a couple of
1:03:33
them out and then he's about to walk out, here's his phone.
1:03:38
And you can see him consider like, I should go grab my phone.
1:03:42
And in the time that happens, the alcohol bottle which has
1:03:45
spilled, that catches on fire. And now more of the room is on
1:03:48
fire because, you know, it's a big spill of alcohol.
1:03:50
It's kind. Of like an explosion, it
1:03:52
launches them against the wall. He threw himself back a little
1:03:54
bit. Yeah, yeah.
1:03:58
Sell on the call later. While he falls up against the
1:04:01
wall, the Buddha statue that he was knocking on before falls
1:04:05
down right onto his head and crashes or crushes it so.
1:04:12
Yeah, so now we cut to Sam realizing that Molly can just
1:04:18
move with him. Yeah, like they can like they
1:04:21
can do that. Then they get the news of Isaac.
1:04:25
So they all, you know, are outside of the the parlor.
1:04:30
And they're like, hey, here's. Another thing, I don't
1:04:31
understand why they all go to each other's death scenes.
1:04:34
Like I, if I, if I, I just wouldn't.
1:04:37
Yeah, it's just weird to me. But they're all.
1:04:39
Yes, because they don't even know.
1:04:41
They're not even friends with Isaac.
1:04:42
Yeah, they're not friends with Isaac and they don't really know
1:04:44
that like. There's a strategy.
1:04:46
Yeah, because, but they do see Bloodworth there and they're
1:04:50
like, dude, why are you always here?
1:04:52
And he just like looks at him and doesn't say anything and
1:04:55
then closes the van door which just.
1:04:58
Doing my job. Yeah, it it says corner on the
1:05:02
back of his jacket, on the back of his jacket and on the back of
1:05:04
the van. So, and he's like, I'm gonna
1:05:08
tell you guys, this isn't the first time I've seen this shit
1:05:10
go down. Yeah, Death has a plan and you
1:05:13
guys fucked with it. You guys are A Wrinkle in Time
1:05:15
that was not meant to be. So he's sorting that out.
1:05:18
The past is obdurate. I read that 110 times this last
1:05:24
week. Yeah, so they they kind of get
1:05:27
the gist of what's going on here.
1:05:28
He does tell them, though. The only way to do to get out of
1:05:31
it is I think he tells them about the dying thing.
1:05:33
But also, I think this is the first time he's shared this bit
1:05:36
of knowledge with somebody you got to kill to gain a life.
1:05:39
I think this is his theory anyway.
1:05:42
But he's never shared that with anybody else.
1:05:45
Well, because you have to remember this is technically,
1:05:48
chronologically the first in the movie.
1:05:51
Yeah. And so especially once we talk
1:05:54
about bloodlines next month, I think this is his first, like,
1:05:57
theorizing of this. He's like, OK, you, you know,
1:06:00
Death is an accountant. It just wants the columns to add
1:06:04
up. So swap your years out with
1:06:06
somebody else, and then he's gonna figure out after all of
1:06:10
this that maybe it doesn't exactly work that way.
1:06:13
Yeah, I mean, it does work that way, but you know.
1:06:16
Like, but death is still like, no, it's not gonna work as
1:06:19
neatly as you want it to work, right?
1:06:22
So Molly didn't die in the vision.
1:06:26
And so like, as they're all trying to sit there and work it
1:06:28
out and Peter gets mad that Molly didn't die.
1:06:30
I know I don't understand because like, Sam saved her, but
1:06:33
like, Sam died, you know? It's not like it's like if you
1:06:36
listen to anything, Bloodworth said, death was going to get her
1:06:39
if it wanted. And I got I got a fantastic
1:06:42
picture of this. I need to send it to you so you
1:06:44
can put it up with our trailers. But like, we pause it at a
1:06:46
moment where he says Molly made it.
1:06:48
She didn't die. And Molly looks fucking pissed
1:06:51
in that moment, both that he's saying it and also like maybe
1:06:55
she wishes that she too. Died to not share their shit,
1:06:58
right? Now, yeah, like seriously, do
1:06:59
you see how unstable he is? Yeah.
1:07:02
So yeah. And this is going to be Peter's
1:07:05
obsession for the rest of the movie.
1:07:08
Molly, Sam and Nathan decide that they're going to go look
1:07:10
for Olivia because I want to figure out, you know, trying to
1:07:13
warn. They want to warn her.
1:07:14
Yeah. So she is actually getting
1:07:16
LASIK. She had her first consultation a
1:07:18
while ago. The.
1:07:19
Scene fucking kills me. Oh I hate action movies.
1:07:23
And it starts with her being put in the chair and they use the
1:07:27
fucking like like the things to hold her eyelids open.
1:07:30
Oh my God, I can't handle it all.
1:07:33
Right. OK, You know what was terrible?
1:07:35
So I'm used to when I have any kind of procedure that involves
1:07:39
anesthesia, you do those things after the person's asleep.
1:07:43
Yeah, except for when I had to get an upper scope.
1:07:47
They put the mouth thingy in my mouth before I was out.
1:07:51
They're like open up. And I was like, I'm still awake.
1:07:53
They're like, we'll take care of that in a minute.
1:07:55
But I was like, what? And then they're like, well, in
1:07:58
3-2 and then, you know, the room went skinny on me.
1:08:03
They were. Trying to go fast.
1:08:04
They were trying to go. I had a schedule.
1:08:05
There I was, so afraid that like I was going to be awake for the
1:08:10
scope going down my throat. That's scary.
1:08:13
That's a terrifying. Thing, Yeah, but like, I've
1:08:15
never been alert enough to like, witnessed that medical
1:08:19
equipment. Like, I know I've had catheters
1:08:21
during surgery. I have no conscious recollection
1:08:24
of them being put in or taken out.
1:08:26
Yep. I don't.
1:08:27
All I know is that it hurts to pee for a while after a
1:08:30
catheter. That's that's as much
1:08:32
information as I need about the experience.
1:08:36
So OK, she's getting her IO wazered.
1:08:38
It's wasting time. More than time.
1:08:44
The machine goes a little bit wonky though.
1:08:46
It goes a little bit too hard. Yeah, so she's, first of all,
1:08:49
she's got the teddy bear and she's squeezing the life out of
1:08:52
like, and also this LASIK office, I don't know why.
1:08:55
It just it takes me back to 13D movies where you're like super,
1:08:58
super common, you know, like in 2011.
1:09:00
Yes. And they can drop off their
1:09:03
glasses in the little bucket and makes you think of, you know how
1:09:05
you have to do that after a 3D movie?
1:09:07
I always kept them. I was like, I'll wear these one.
1:09:11
Day my movies are so expensive nowadays.
1:09:14
Yep. That's me.
1:09:17
But yeah, so she's really, really nervous.
1:09:20
And the doctor opens up this file and he's like, it's an
1:09:22
incomplete file. I'll be right back.
1:09:24
Just leaves are in there, strapped in, and the machine
1:09:28
starts beeping. She's freaking out.
1:09:29
She's like, should this beeping? Nobody's answering.
1:09:31
So she reaches for the remote, knocks it to the floor, hits a
1:09:35
button, and that button apparently means laser.
1:09:37
Go crazy. Yeah, and Laser do go crazy and
1:09:41
starts burning her fucking eyeball.
1:09:43
Yeah. And then it's.
1:09:44
Roasting. Our trio from the sidewalk has
1:09:46
run, and they're like, where's Olivia Castle?
1:09:48
She's in danger. And the doctors like, no, I do
1:09:50
this procedure several times a day, like it's perfectly safe.
1:09:52
And then they hear her screaming.
1:09:54
They walk and she has managed to pull the eye thingy out.
1:09:57
Every single I've seen this movie, I don't know how many
1:09:59
times, but every single time I expect to see her eye come out
1:10:01
with it. Yeah, oh God, I can't stand.
1:10:03
It and she's like cut her hand because she was trying to block
1:10:05
the block the laser and has cut her hand.
1:10:08
She finally manages to get out of the chair.
1:10:12
She is a wreck. They all come in, they see her
1:10:14
and she goes help me and she trips and like I said she pulls
1:10:18
the Bella swan and just flies through a window that is too far
1:10:22
away for her to organically trip into with enough speed.
1:10:24
You need to bust the window. Yep, and she just fucking
1:10:27
crashes. And then her eye pops out.
1:10:30
Oh yeah, that's right. So Asian confronts Sam and he's
1:10:35
like look dude, I know like look I don't think you did this one.
1:10:39
OK 2. Two deaths are an accident, 3 is
1:10:41
a pattern. I don't think you did this.
1:10:44
However, five systems had to fail for this to go as wrong as
1:10:48
it did. Yeah, he's like, I just want to
1:10:51
know, like. Tell me something.
1:10:53
Yeah, give me something to work with, yeah.
1:10:55
And they're like, we don't know what's up.
1:10:56
He's like, I know you know something.
1:10:57
And he's like, well, OK, we think that we were supposed to
1:11:01
die that day. And now that we didn't die,
1:11:03
death is now killing US1 at a time to fix it.
1:11:05
And Agent Block is like, God damn it, what did I say?
1:11:10
I think he kind of believes it there.
1:11:11
He's like, huh, He's, he's, he's sitting on that one.
1:11:15
So Sam is trying to remember the order because he has figured out
1:11:18
that they're dying in the order that they would have on the
1:11:20
bridge. So it's like we got to figure
1:11:22
out who's next. We cut to Nathan, who's working
1:11:26
on the time cards and Roy wrote fuck you on his time card.
1:11:30
And Nathan's like, dude, you can't do that.
1:11:32
He's like, you cut my hours. He's like, I didn't cut your
1:11:35
hours. Corporate cut your hours.
1:11:37
Because in case you hadn't noticed, half the office is
1:11:40
dead. There's not as much work for you
1:11:41
to do here right now. Yeah, got to Scull back 50%.
1:11:44
So Roy and him get into a shouting match.
1:11:47
There is a crane that's above them and Nate's like, hey dude,
1:11:51
we need to move. But Roy is not listening to
1:11:54
anything and then it falls and. So Nathan, like, kind of pushes
1:11:58
him, and it feels like maybe he's trying to push him out of
1:12:00
the way, but it pushes him into the way and Roy falls through a
1:12:07
hole in the floor. Yeah, because the crane, like
1:12:11
the crane, knocks it down. Yeah, yeah.
1:12:12
And he falls onto the crane hook, and it like impales him.
1:12:16
Right through the jaw. Yeah, and so Peter, Molly and
1:12:21
Sam run in and. Peter's like, you fucking did
1:12:24
it, didn't you? You killed him.
1:12:26
He's like, dude, no, I did not. I was like, yes, you did.
1:12:28
Tell me you did. And then he's silent for a
1:12:30
little bit. He's listening.
1:12:31
I know everybody's there. And he's like, yeah, I think I
1:12:34
did. I think I did.
1:12:35
And then Dennis comes down because Dennis just found that
1:12:37
they're all laid off. No, yeah, he's like, like
1:12:40
Peter's like, OK, who's next? And he's like, well, and then
1:12:43
Dennis Anderson's like, what the fuck happened down here?
1:12:45
And then a wrench just boom. Yeah.
1:12:47
Because we we'd seen, like, some of the hydraulic presses during,
1:12:50
you know, Nathan and Roy's whole argument.
1:12:52
So you're like, oh, those are going to be part of it.
1:12:54
Nope. They're part of Dennis's death.
1:12:55
Dude death was like on one right here.
1:12:57
He like rattled 2 off back-to-back.
1:13:01
I'm like, boom, gonna get Nate then Dennis.
1:13:03
Yeah, but I will say cuz Peter had spoken to Dennis just before
1:13:07
this happened and he's like listen, it's killer be killed.
1:13:10
Yeah, he told him. Yeah, and Dennis calls Agent
1:13:11
Block and he's like, no, there was an actual threat this time.
1:13:14
He wasn't just mad, he said killer be killed, I felt.
1:13:17
That he was mad. He was mad at me.
1:13:18
But. OK, so Molly doesn't want Sam to
1:13:22
go to work. And he's like, listen, I need to
1:13:23
not live in fear. How about you come to the
1:13:26
restaurant after I'm done and I'll cook you some dinner?
1:13:29
So there's lots of danger in the kitchen.
1:13:30
But I like how we don't get a full shift of it.
1:13:32
We just see him look a little bit nervous, and then he gets to
1:13:34
work. And I feel like that is a good
1:13:37
metaphor of dealing with trauma. Like, you do the work.
1:13:43
You recognize you know the things that are upsetting and
1:13:46
triggering and also present a possible danger, but you figure
1:13:50
out ways that you can cope with it.
1:13:52
Right. So it's the end of the shift.
1:13:55
Sam's like Hey, Mr. Head Chef. And yeah, he's like, he says we,
1:14:00
yeah, he speaks French, but he tells them that he will take the
1:14:04
apprenticeship if the offer still stands.
1:14:06
And he goes, It's yours. Oh, and here we go.
1:14:08
I It's so boy. Cafe Miro 81 is the name of the
1:14:13
restaurant. Yeah.
1:14:15
So that's where we're at. It's now I'm.
1:14:17
Going to look up what Miro means in French.
1:14:19
OK, so Sam has prepared dinner for Molly.
1:14:23
They're there in the restaurant, he's serving the dinner up, and
1:14:27
then there's a knock on the door.
1:14:29
It's Peter who is looking super disheveled.
1:14:33
Huh. What does it mean?
1:14:35
Commonly used as a familiar adjective meaning nearsighted or
1:14:38
blind, as a batch quote, UN quote.
1:14:41
I feel like that's got to be something for like the visions
1:14:45
he's having. Right.
1:14:45
Yeah. Yeah, interesting.
1:14:48
OK, well, OK, so Peter enters. He's like super disheveled.
1:14:51
He's well at first. He's just staring through the
1:14:54
vengeance window as I wrote it in my notes, like, because he
1:14:59
sees Molly and Sam having a nice dinner and then he comes in.
1:15:02
He's like, listen. He invites himself in like a
1:15:04
vampire. He's like, are you going to
1:15:05
invite me in? Yeah, and Sam does, and they try
1:15:10
and give him some food or drink, and he's like, so I went outside
1:15:14
and there are a lot of opportunities to kill people.
1:15:17
And Molly's like, oh, Peter, tell me you didn't.
1:15:20
He goes no, because I realized I couldn't kill somebody who
1:15:23
didn't deserve to die. But then I thought to myself,
1:15:26
did Candace deserve to die? And then I thought to myself,
1:15:29
Molly, why do you deserve to live?
1:15:32
That I don't understand his logic here.
1:15:35
This is just somebody trying to rationalize what he wants to do.
1:15:38
Yeah, really, he's just trying to make it make sense in his
1:15:40
head. So he pulls out the gun and he
1:15:43
starts to try and kill Molly and Molly runs back to the kitchen.
1:15:47
Sam tries to interfere but they get into like a little scuffle
1:15:50
there and he knocks Sam out with some equipment.
1:15:53
No, he like piss and whips him. Yeah, and then he starts just,
1:15:55
like, turning on everything in the kitchen because he's like,
1:15:58
listen, Molly, I'm going to kill you.
1:16:01
It will save me. And then it'll be Sam's turn.
1:16:04
I'm not going to kill Sam, but I'm also going to make the job a
1:16:06
lot easier for death. He's like, so you won't have to
1:16:09
live without. What an asshole.
1:16:10
Yeah, and then Agent Block, here's the gunshots he comes in.
1:16:15
Yeah, he knew. He knew something was going to
1:16:18
happen with those 3. And so he goes in and he finds
1:16:21
Molly 1st and she's like, listen, it's Peter.
1:16:24
He's gone crazy. And then Peter comes up behind
1:16:26
him and shoots him. And then the lights flicker and
1:16:28
he's like, looks like I got Agent Block's ears.
1:16:31
And then Molly's like, cool, so we're good, I guess.
1:16:34
You just witnessed the murder of a federal agent, Molly.
1:16:37
I can't leave any loose ends. I don't know what you think this
1:16:40
scene in the kitchen is about to be Peter, but.
1:16:44
Yeah, dude, yeah. What?
1:16:46
He's very short sighted. Here, Yeah.
1:16:49
So he, like Sam, jumps out of nowhere and tackles them and
1:16:53
then they get into like a full blown wrestling match here.
1:16:56
Yeah, at one point the gun lands on the gas range, which is on on
1:17:01
Molly ends up joining in on the fight, too.
1:17:03
And there's just like a lot of back and forth.
1:17:05
And Sam eventually skewers Peter with like the Big.
1:17:11
Skewer. Yeah, yeah.
1:17:13
I was gonna say meat rotator. I don't know.
1:17:15
I have not. We're calling them flippy rods,
1:17:16
we're calling those meat rotators.
1:17:20
We're just coming up with the names for things.
1:17:22
So we need to just like put out an an official the final
1:17:25
destination dictionary. Yeah, we also have butt guts,
1:17:28
which we will get to see butt guts again.
1:17:30
You're right, you're right. But yeah, so they're like, is it
1:17:35
over? And then the gun finally shoots
1:17:37
because it's overheated enough and it misses both of them.
1:17:39
They're like, OK, cool. So it is over 2 weeks later, Sam
1:17:45
and Molly, they're on a flight. They're getting ready to go to
1:17:47
Paris. They're excited.
1:17:49
They're full of beans. Yeah, And then there's a fight
1:17:53
that breaks out. We see kids get escorted off the
1:17:55
plane and. Look awfully familiar?
1:17:58
Yeah, it looks awfully familiar. And they ask the woman next to
1:18:03
him. They're like, oh, it's just some
1:18:04
high school kids. One of them panics that he
1:18:07
thought the plane was going to crash and like.
1:18:09
Sounds like Oh no. Yeah, and then he cuts his thumb
1:18:13
on the seat in front of him, and the plane has taken off and it's
1:18:17
shaky and the lights are flashing and they're like, well,
1:18:19
shit. Yep, looks out to the left.
1:18:22
The engine exploded. Yep, and.
1:18:26
We we see their tickets, it is like 180 to Paris.
1:18:29
I thought it was. Yeah.
1:18:30
I thought it was cool that we get to see what actually
1:18:32
happened on Flight 180 this time.
1:18:33
Yeah, Molly gets like sucked out of there.
1:18:35
And yeah, she and she hits a wing in this split in half, much
1:18:39
like Sam was in his premonition. Yeah, you're right.
1:18:43
And Sam, holy shit, he gets a bad one.
1:18:45
The plane explodes, but like, he's not instant death.
1:18:47
He's just being like the flames are just hitting his face.
1:18:50
I mean, it looks exactly like Alex's death in the first one
1:18:54
where he's just being roasted in the face.
1:18:57
Meanwhile there's a pub and they're doing a memorial for
1:19:00
Ray. God, I love this.
1:19:02
I like this one. Worker comes up and goes, Roy,
1:19:06
OK, yeah, my handwriting's just bad.
1:19:08
And he's like, it was good of you to come, Nathan.
1:19:10
Nathan's like, I mean, I didn't like the guy, but I also don't
1:19:13
think he that was a terrible way to die.
1:19:15
And he's like, well, he didn't have long anyway.
1:19:17
He goes, what do you mean he goes?
1:19:18
Well, the company, they did an autopsy for insurance reasons
1:19:20
since I have it on company grounds.
1:19:22
And he was ready to have a very like an aneurysm any day now, a
1:19:27
blood. Vessel on his head that was just
1:19:29
about to pop. Yeah, and.
1:19:32
And you could just see. Nathan's like and then there's a
1:19:35
piece of airplane debris that crashes into the bar.
1:19:37
Oh my God chills. All this is so fucking crazy.
1:19:40
I love that ending. This ending is so good.
1:19:42
Yeah, 'cause like, at that point we'd forgotten about Nathan.
1:19:44
I did. Yeah, I was like, Oh yeah.
1:19:45
Like I didn't even think about him, but damn.
1:19:48
Just to like, fucking do Nathan dirty like that.
1:19:51
They all die. Which does that mean that Agent
1:19:54
Block, was he going to die because if.
1:19:59
I think so. Peter got his years, but then
1:20:02
they killed Peter. No, no.
1:20:03
I. Think did they get Peter's?
1:20:06
Oh, he was. Going to die then New Years.
1:20:08
Yeah, yeah, he took Blocks. What if Block was supposed to be
1:20:11
on that flight? That's what I'm saying.
1:20:14
Fuck dude death you fucking trick.
1:20:18
We do like an alternate timeline of all of these movies where
1:20:20
just like 1 little change like affects the outcomes of all the
1:20:24
rest of the movies. Just redo all of them that'd.
1:20:26
Be amazing, I would love that. OK, but that's it.
1:20:30
That's it. I still think it's a nine I.
1:20:32
Do too. I'm right there with you. 9 good
1:20:35
time man. What did Talia think of it?
1:20:39
OK, well, Talia was very playful during this movie.
1:20:41
She was. She actually really loved it.
1:20:43
She loves it when traffic is bad because then she gets to bark at
1:20:48
us and stand in the car and be like drive faster.
1:20:51
I guess so, like we can make eye contact with the other people in
1:20:53
the cars, yeah. She especially especially loves
1:20:56
it if there's a motorcycle stuck in traffic.
1:20:59
I like her. Her favorite thing in the world.
1:21:01
She loves motorcycles, and if somebody on a motorcycle
1:21:05
acknowledges her while she's in a car, I think that is as close
1:21:08
to Nirvana as Talia has ever gotten.
1:21:10
Yeah, that's the highlight of her day.
1:21:13
So I think Talia would also give this a nine.
1:21:15
OK, Zoe's ultimate warrior. I think it was Sam because Sam
1:21:23
has been using the same wrestling moves that she's been
1:21:26
using on Cordelia the past few days.
1:21:28
There we go. That whole like, like launching
1:21:30
her with their two back feet. Yeah, they've been fighting so
1:21:33
hard the past few days, like play fighting.
1:21:35
But like, Zoe is still a bigger cat.
1:21:37
I don't. Think Zoe's playing, I think Zoe
1:21:39
is. Trying Zoe didn't want to get
1:21:41
into it, she would have ran away.
1:21:42
But Zoe is like, I think Zoe's happy to have somebody to throw
1:21:45
down with cuz she's like Scout never wants to fight.
1:21:48
Scout only wants to fight Zoe when Zoe doesn't want to fight
1:21:51
because Scout's lazy and she doesn't want to have to fight
1:21:54
too hard, but she still wants to win.
1:21:57
That's exactly right. So that's what happened, Yeah.
1:22:01
Is this a hoot or a holler for Cordelia?
1:22:06
She's never seen the first one. So she's like, what's the big
1:22:07
deal, guys? Shoot, but she is she was
1:22:10
playful and then she eventually settled it and like watched it.
1:22:13
That's true. She was.
1:22:14
She was into. It she actually does pay
1:22:16
attention to movies. So I think this was a hoot.
1:22:20
OK, I'll, I'll accept that. OK.
1:22:23
Who did you relate to? Well, I related to Nate because
1:22:30
if I were in that same situation there, I would bring a fucking 6
1:22:33
pack to work of no, if we're in full fuck it mode, that's like
1:22:37
yeah, let's just like fuck it, whatever, let's get drunk at
1:22:39
work. That seems like a great idea.
1:22:44
I think I probably relate to the guy in corporate trying to talk
1:22:48
Dennis through how to do it. Yeah, and.
1:22:51
Dennis, being like this isn't my job and the corporate driving
1:22:54
like, well, it is actually, yeah.
1:22:58
OK. Cool, we don't do a dream sequel
1:23:01
for this. No, but we do need to ask what
1:23:04
would Dom Toretto do? What would Dom Toretto do?
1:23:10
He wouldn't have been stuck in traffic on that bridge in the
1:23:12
1st place. This wouldn't have ever been an
1:23:15
issue for him. Because like, well, we watched
1:23:18
Fast Sex last night. Yeah, we did.
1:23:20
Which is like Dom, Toretto and Prime, like navigating, like
1:23:26
roads and like structures. Listen and we have a very good
1:23:29
stuff. Drove down like a fucking
1:23:30
staircase and stopped a bomb, you know what I mean?
1:23:32
We have a very good thesis we've been working on about how the
1:23:36
Fast and Furious franchise is just Dragon Ball for.
1:23:40
You're about to say grown men. A grown men.
1:23:42
No, I was gonna say for dudes who don't wanna admit they like
1:23:45
anime. Okay, yeah, it's.
1:23:47
Anime that I mean there are people like you who acknowledge
1:23:50
both. It's making a lot of really
1:23:53
great parallels. So maybe we'll share that with
1:23:55
you all at some point, but. True.
1:23:57
Fast and Furious would not exist without Dragon Ball is basically
1:24:00
what I'm saying. Yes, but he would, Yeah.
1:24:02
I I feel like this is one that he could outrun Death.
1:24:05
Like Death cannot get Dom Toretto on the bridge, at least
1:24:09
like if there are other ways. You can, yeah.
1:24:10
No, we've seen it in so many movies like that.
1:24:13
Bridge is not going to take Dom Toretto.
1:24:14
I guess crumbling he will just like Nos it.
1:24:17
Yeah, I mean, there's like that like fast 9 when the wood bridge
1:24:21
goes out. What does he do?
1:24:23
He drives faster. Yeah, well, he like takes the
1:24:26
fucking rail and just like swings on it.
1:24:30
Yeah, he does the George of the jungle with his.
1:24:32
Car that's why he would have done with one of the cables on
1:24:34
this bridge here. He would have just George of the
1:24:35
jungled all the way across. There we go.
1:24:38
OK. New tagline Cross the bridge
1:24:44
between life and Death I. Kind of want to do something
1:24:52
like go full circle since this is like a, it's the fifth one,
1:24:56
but like we start at the beginning, we're just starting
1:24:59
all over again. Death.
1:25:00
Cyclical. Death is just the beginning.
1:25:07
Oh, I get that. That's good.
1:25:09
I like that. OK, I had to think on that one
1:25:11
for a second, but I got you. I like it.
1:25:14
Cool. All right, cool.
1:25:15
Let's do that. OK, OK.
1:25:18
I think that's it for all of are things.
1:25:21
Yep, those are from March. No, we gotta do reviews dude.
1:25:25
Sure we do. So we'll start off with our IMDb
1:25:30
review, which I got was a three out of 10 titled Anticipation of
1:25:34
Death is Worse Than Death Itself.
1:25:38
Core franchises typically stumble when they get to part
1:25:41
fives. Friday the 13th part 5 terrible
1:25:43
saw five awful Halloween 5 appalling I have.
1:25:47
I disagree with everyone of those.
1:25:51
Strangely, many of them use 3D as a way of pulling in the
1:25:54
punters for gore effects that splatter into 3 dimensions.
1:25:58
Found Destination 5 is nothing new and no exception to this
1:26:00
rule. Despite not being completely
1:26:02
awful, Jacroni's own office retreat survived suspension
1:26:05
bridge collapse after one of the group inexplicably has a
1:26:09
premonition of said disaster. Death doesn't like to be
1:26:12
cheated, Tony tied ironic accidents, blah blah exposition,
1:26:17
you're all going to die, yadda yadda 1 by 1 blah blah blah
1:26:19
blah. It's the same old rehash plot,
1:26:22
recycled dialogue, and overdone deaths that seem to defy logic
1:26:25
and physics. As usual there is a last minute
1:26:27
twist which by this point you're just waiting to be revealed in
1:26:31
get it finished with. That doesn't quite add up for
1:26:34
many reasons, but coherence has hardly been a strong point of
1:26:37
the series. Basically, as basically all of
1:26:41
this film offers, are a few scenes of dread intention which
1:26:45
are all undone by a cheap fake quick deflating CGI core
1:26:48
effects. Now once in my life have I ever
1:26:50
been horrified by computer generated blood?
1:26:53
Give me some tangible gore by Chris Wallace or Tom Savini by
1:26:57
day or any day over something half hearted cartoon.
1:27:01
Onto the movie and post production.
1:27:03
The series has been cheating death for 12 years and it's high
1:27:06
time the final destination reached its final destination.
1:27:12
They have some points. They do because you even said
1:27:14
yourself like rehash dialogue. You said the same thing like 5
1:27:17
Times Now five months in a row. I agree with the effects.
1:27:22
We do get a little bit cartoonish with the CG effects
1:27:25
in this right here. I don't agree with the over the
1:27:27
top deaths because that's kind of part of this movie is that
1:27:29
it's it's a Rube Goldberg machine basically.
1:27:32
Yeah, and it's all about building up that dread in
1:27:35
suspense. And then like you're supposed to
1:27:36
have those moments where you're on edge looking for anything
1:27:39
that's going to be the thing that's going to cause the death.
1:27:43
I I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's just like, why go
1:27:47
to any Halloween movie if you're not going there for like the
1:27:50
stalking and slashing, you know, Why go to any Final Destination
1:27:53
movie if you're not there for the over the top deaths and like
1:27:56
suspenseful dread build UPS? You know that's what they both
1:27:59
are. So.
1:28:01
If they're still doing that in the 5th movie, like good because
1:28:03
like that's what I want if I'm a fan of that franchise.
1:28:06
Yeah. I'd be mad if they tried to
1:28:08
switch it up with something else, you know?
1:28:09
Yeah, and if we're going to keep talking about these other
1:28:11
franchises, think about how mad people were about Halloween 3.
1:28:15
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, people like it
1:28:17
now, but like you. Know Yeah, well and now people
1:28:20
are super mad about Halloween ends.
1:28:23
Yeah, I still am. I'm not going to be not mad
1:28:26
about that for a long, long time.
1:28:29
I don't know if I'll ever get over that one.
1:28:31
He hasn't yet. No.
1:28:34
OK, so let's do some listener reviews.
1:28:37
So over on Instagram you say says death is a petty bitch.
1:28:42
Yes. Death is very petty in this.
1:28:44
Movie. I literally have that in my
1:28:46
notes right here. The first time Tony Todd
1:28:49
appears, I wrote Death is a petty bitch.
1:28:52
Marini says best of the franchise.
1:28:55
That's cool. I've never seen people say that
1:28:56
this is the best one, but I'm glad that this.
1:28:58
Is it rains up there for me? Yeah, it's up at the top for me
1:29:01
too. Michael E Howard says Final
1:29:03
Destination 5 May be my favorite of the series.
1:29:06
Controversial. I know.
1:29:07
The bridge scene and the LASIK death are a part of my
1:29:10
nightmares. The end twist is pure genius.
1:29:13
I love that you didn't notice all of the hints to the twist
1:29:16
unless you watch again. Have to give it a nine out of
1:29:18
10. Love it.
1:29:19
All right. Once again, right, Right in line
1:29:21
with us. Yeah.
1:29:22
Another number with skies. So that's it for reviews.
1:29:26
All right. Thanks guys for being there and
1:29:28
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1:29:31
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1:29:35
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1:30:03
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1:30:07
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1:30:09
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1:30:16
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1:30:19
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1:30:22
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1:30:24
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1:30:27
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1:30:32
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1:30:47
Final Destination to premiered August 4th are.
1:30:51
You sure about that?