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Santa Claus: The Movie · Verbal Diorama

2:15
Ho,
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ho,
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ho,
2:17
everyone,
2:17
I'm
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Em
2:18
and
2:18
welcome
2:19
to
2:19
Verbal
2:19
Diorama,
2:20
episode
2:20
326,
2:22
Santa
2:23
Claus
2:23
the
2:23
Movie.
2:24
This
2:24
is
2:24
the
2:24
podcast
2:25
that's
2:25
all
2:25
about
2:25
the
2:25
history
2:25
and
2:26
legacy
2:26
of
2:26
movies
2:27
you
2:27
know,
2:27
and
2:27
movies
2:28
you
2:28
don't,
2:28
that's
2:29
here
2:29
to
2:29
announce
2:29
the
2:30
prophecy
2:30
has
2:30
come
2:31
to
2:31
pass
2:31
that
2:32
there
2:32
would
2:32
come
2:32
to
2:33
us
2:33
a
2:33
chosen
2:33
one.
2:34
And
2:34
that
2:34
he,
2:35
having
2:35
no
2:35
child
2:35
of
2:36
his
2:36
own,
2:36
would
2:36
love
2:37
all
2:37
children
2:37
everywhere.
2:38
And
2:39
that
2:39
he
2:39
himself
2:40
would
2:40
be
2:40
an
2:40
artisan
2:41
and
2:41
a
2:41
craftsman
2:42
and
2:42
a
2:42
skilled
2:43
maker
2:43
of
2:43
toys.
2:45
And
2:45
now,
2:45
chosen
2:46
one,
2:46
come
2:46
forward.
2:48
From
2:48
this
2:48
day
2:48
on,
2:49
now
2:49
and
2:49
forever,
2:50
you
2:50
will
2:51
bring
2:51
all
2:51
our
2:52
gifts
2:52
to
2:52
all
2:52
the
2:53
children
2:53
in
2:53
all
2:54
the
2:54
world.
2:54
And
2:55
all
2:55
this
2:55
to
2:56
be
2:56
done
2:56
on
2:56
Christmas
2:57
Eve.
2:59
Welcome
2:59
to
2:59
Verbal
3:00
Diorama.
3:00
Whether
3:00
you're
3:00
a
3:01
branbrand-newdnewlistener,whetheryou'rearegularreturninglistener,thank
3:04
you
3:04
for
3:04
being
3:04
here.
3:04
Thank
3:04
you
3:04
for
3:05
choosing
3:05
to
3:05
listen
3:05
to
3:05
this
3:06
podcast.
3:07
It
3:07
is
3:07
Christmasa,andndI'mso
3:08
happy
3:09
to
3:09
have
3:09
you
3:09
here
3:09
for
3:10
the
3:10
history
3:10
and
3:10
legacy
3:11
of
3:11
Santa
3:12
Claus
3:12
the
3:12
movie.
3:14
Huge
3:14
thank
3:14
you,
3:14
if
3:14
you
3:14
are
3:15
a
3:15
regular
3:15
returning
3:15
listener,
3:16
for
3:16
regularly
3:17
returning
3:17
to
3:17
this
3:18
podcast,
3:19
listening
3:19
and
3:19
supporting
3:20
this
3:20
podcast.
3:21
Thank
3:21
you
3:21
so
3:21
much.
3:22
It
3:22
is
3:22
the
3:22
biggest
3:22
Christmas
3:23
gift
3:23
to
3:23
me
3:23
that
3:24
you
3:24
are
3:24
here
3:25
at
3:25
Christmas
3:26
listening
3:27
to
3:27
an
3:27
episode
3:28
that's
3:28
coming
3:28
out
3:29
on
3:29
Christmas
3:29
Eve.
3:29
So
3:30
thank
3:30
you
3:30
so
3:30
much
3:30
for
3:30
your
3:31
support.
3:31
It
3:31
genuinely
3:32
means
3:32
so
3:33
much.
3:34
This
3:34
is
3:34
the
3:34
third
3:35
and
3:35
final
3:35
episode
3:36
of
3:37
Three
3:37
Christmas
3:37
movies
3:38
this
3:38
year,
3:38
a
3:38
verbal
3:38
diorama
3:39
and
3:39
the
3:40
last
3:40
episode
3:41
of
3:41
the
3:41
year.
3:42
This
3:42
Christmas,
3:43
we've
3:44
had
3:44
Jingle
3:44
all
3:45
the
3:45
Way,
3:45
which
3:45
famously
3:46
had
3:46
a
3:46
reindeer
3:47
in
3:47
it.
3:47
That
3:48
we
3:48
had
3:48
Scrooged.
3:49
A
3:49
Richard
3:50
Donna
3:51
Christmas
3:51
movie.
3:52
And
3:53
we've
3:53
got
3:53
a
3:53
Donna
3:54
here
3:54
and
3:55
all
3:55
of
3:55
Santa's
3:55
reindeer.
3:56
But
3:57
that's
3:57
not
3:57
the
3:58
only
3:58
reason
3:58
why
3:59
all
3:59
of
3:59
these
3:59
movies
4:00
are
4:00
so
4:00
perfectly
4:01
linked.
4:01
And
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I'm
4:02
going
4:02
to
4:02
come
4:02
back
4:02
to
4:02
that
4:03
later
4:03
because
4:03
there's
4:03
a
4:04
wonderful
4:04
link
4:04
between
4:04
all
4:05
these
4:05
movies.
4:06
But
4:06
making
4:07
a
4:07
movie
4:07
like
4:07
Santa
4:08
Claus,
4:08
the
4:08
movie
4:09
needs
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a
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lot
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of
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elf
4:11
esteem,
4:12
elf
4:13
confidence
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and
4:14
elf
4:14
belief.
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It's
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a
4:16
good
4:16
job
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that
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it's
4:17
being
4:18
produced
4:18
by
4:18
Alexander
4:19
and
4:19
Ilya
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Salkind.
4:20
Then
4:21
here's
4:22
the
4:22
trailer
4:22
for
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Santa
4:23
Claus
4:24
the
4:24
movie.
6:33
Hundreds
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of
6:33
years
6:33
ago,
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a
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master
6:34
toy
6:35
maker
6:35
and
6:35
his
6:35
wife
6:36
deliver
6:36
gifts
6:36
to
6:37
local
6:37
children.
6:38
They
6:38
get
6:38
caught
6:39
in
6:39
a
6:39
blizzard
6:39
and
6:39
are
6:39
found
6:40
by
6:40
elves.
6:41
The
6:41
ancient
6:42
elf
6:42
declares
6:42
the
6:43
man
6:43
is
6:43
the
6:43
chosen
6:44
one
6:44
and
6:44
he
6:45
will
6:45
become
6:45
Santa
6:46
Claus.
6:46
He's
6:47
given
6:47
immortality
6:48
and
6:48
chosen
6:49
to
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deliver
6:49
toys
6:49
to
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all
6:50
the
6:50
children
6:50
of
6:51
the
6:51
world.
6:52
Centuries
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pass,
6:53
the
6:53
mythology
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and
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traditions
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deepen
6:55
surrounding
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Santa
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Claus
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and
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children
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start
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to
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believe
6:58
in
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him.
6:59
By
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the
6:59
late
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20th
7:00
century,
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Santa
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Claus
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is
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exhausted
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by
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his
7:03
ever
7:03
increasing
7:04
workload
7:05
and
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his
7:05
wife
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suggests
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he
7:07
employ
7:07
an
7:07
assistant
7:09
visionary
7:09
elf.
7:10
Patch
7:10
gets
7:10
the
7:10
role,
7:11
but
7:11
struggles
7:12
with
7:12
toy
7:12
quality.
7:13
After
7:13
being
7:14
replaced
7:14
in
7:14
the
7:14
assistant
7:15
role,
7:15
Patch
7:16
leaves
7:16
the
7:16
North
7:17
Pole
7:17
and
7:17
finds
7:18
himself
7:18
in
7:18
New
7:19
York
7:19
in
7:19
the
7:19
business
7:20
of
7:20
an
7:20
evil
7:21
toy
7:21
manufacturer.
7:23
Let's
7:23
run
7:23
through
7:23
the
7:24
cast.
7:24
We
7:24
have
7:25
Dudley
7:25
Moore
7:25
as
7:26
Patch,
7:27
John
7:27
Lithgow
7:28
as
7:28
BZ,
7:29
Judy
7:30
Cornwell
7:30
as
7:31
Anya,
7:32
Burgess
7:32
Meredith
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as
7:33
the
7:33
ancient
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elf,
7:34
Jeffrey
7:35
Kramer
7:36
as
7:36
Towser,
7:37
Christian
7:38
Fitzpatrick
7:39
as
7:39
Joe,
7:40
Carrie
7:40
Kee
7:41
Haim
7:41
as
7:41
Cornelia,
7:42
and
7:42
Santa
7:43
Claus
7:44
as
7:44
himself.
7:46
Santa
7:46
Claus.
7:46
The
7:46
movie
7:47
has
7:47
a
7:47
screenplay
7:48
by
7:48
David
7:48
Newman,
7:49
Dory
7:49
by
7:50
David
7:50
Newman
7:50
and
7:51
Leslie
7:51
Newman,
7:52
and
7:52
was
7:53
directed
7:53
by
7:53
Jeannot
7:54
Szwarc.
7:55
They
7:55
both
7:56
wear
7:56
red.
7:56
They
7:57
both
7:57
fly.
7:58
They're
7:58
both
7:58
a
7:59
shining
7:59
beacon
7:59
of
8:00
generosity,
8:01
kindness
8:01
and
8:02
spirit.
8:03
One
8:03
is
8:03
Santa
8:03
Claus,
8:04
the
8:04
other
8:05
Superman.
8:06
But
8:07
what
8:07
does
8:07
the
8:07
man
8:08
of
8:08
Steel
8:08
have
8:08
to
8:08
do
8:09
with
8:09
Santa
8:09
other
8:10
than
8:10
being
8:10
the
8:10
toy
8:11
of
8:11
choice
8:11
for
8:11
many
8:12
children
8:13
this
8:13
year,
8:13
and
8:13
probably
8:14
many
8:14
other
8:14
years
8:14
too.
8:16
Quite
8:16
a
8:16
lot
8:16
when
8:17
it
8:17
comes
8:17
to
8:17
Santa
8:17
Claus
8:18
the
8:18
movie.
8:19
For
8:19
non
8:20
British
8:20
listeners
8:21
who
8:21
may
8:21
be
8:21
wondering
8:22
what
8:22
this
8:23
movie
8:23
even
8:24
is,
8:24
it's
8:25
very
8:25
much
8:25
a
8:25
British
8:26
cult
8:26
classic.
8:27
Adored
8:28
at
8:28
Christmas.
8:29
It's
8:29
like
8:29
the
8:29
British
8:30
version
8:30
of
8:30
A
8:30
Christmas
8:31
Story
8:31
in
8:32
that
8:32
it's
8:32
a
8:32
movie
8:32
we
8:33
embraced
8:33
wholeheartedly
8:34
over
8:35
on
8:35
this
8:35
side
8:36
of
8:36
the
8:36
Atlantic
8:37
that
8:37
just
8:38
didn't
8:38
hit
8:38
the
8:38
same
8:39
on
8:39
the
8:39
other
8:39
side
8:40
of
8:40
the
8:40
Atlantic.
8:42
Santa
8:42
Claus
8:43
was
8:43
in
8:44
many
8:44
ways
8:45
the
8:45
ultimate
8:46
ip.
8:47
A
8:47
character
8:47
literally
8:48
known
8:48
worldwide
8:49
across
8:49
countries
8:50
and
8:51
cultures,
8:51
and
8:52
a
8:52
character
8:52
in
8:53
the
8:53
public
8:53
domain.
8:54
Santa
8:55
was
8:55
seen
8:55
as
8:55
having
8:56
franchise
8:56
potential
8:57
similar
8:57
to
8:58
Superman,
8:58
A
8:59
mythic
8:59
figure
8:59
that
9:00
could
9:00
anchor
9:00
multiple
9:01
films
9:01
and
9:02
generate
9:02
merchandising
9:03
revenue
9:04
with
9:04
no
9:04
copyright
9:05
to
9:05
worry
9:05
about.
9:07
A
9:07
movie
9:07
that
9:07
created
9:08
the
9:08
definitive
9:08
Santa
9:09
Claus
9:09
origin
9:09
story
9:10
and
9:10
modernization.
9:11
Something
9:12
that
9:12
would
9:12
become
9:12
the
9:12
cinematic
9:13
version
9:13
of
9:14
Santa
9:14
for
9:14
generations.
9:15
Much
9:16
like
9:16
Superman
9:17
would
9:17
be
9:17
the
9:17
definitive
9:18
version
9:18
of
9:19
that
9:19
character
9:19
in
9:19
the
9:20
70s,
9:21
until
9:21
he
9:22
was
9:22
rebooted
9:22
multiple
9:23
times.
9:24
But
9:24
that's
9:24
by
9:25
the
9:25
by.
9:26
The
9:26
core
9:26
inspiration
9:27
for
9:27
the
9:27
legend
9:27
of
9:28
Santa
9:28
claus
9:28
came
9:29
from
9:29
St
9:29
Nicholas
9:30
of
9:30
Moira,
9:31
a
9:31
4th
9:31
century
9:32
Christian
9:32
bishop
9:33
in
9:33
what
9:33
is
9:33
now
9:34
Turkey.
9:35
He
9:35
was
9:35
known
9:35
for
9:36
his
9:36
generosity,
9:36
particularly
9:37
towards
9:37
children
9:38
and
9:38
the
9:38
poor.
9:39
Various
9:40
legends
9:40
grew
9:40
around
9:41
him,
9:41
including
9:41
stories
9:42
of
9:43
him
9:43
secretly
9:43
giving
9:44
gifts
9:44
like
9:44
dowries
9:45
to
9:45
poor
9:46
families
9:46
and
9:46
miraculous
9:47
interventions.
9:48
His
9:48
feast
9:49
day,
9:49
December
9:50
6,
9:50
became
9:51
associated
9:52
with
9:52
gift
9:52
giving
9:53
in
9:53
many
9:53
European
9:54
countries.
9:55
St
9:55
Nicholas
9:56
became
9:56
Sinterklaas
9:58
and
9:58
Dutch
9:58
settlers
9:59
brought
9:59
the
9:59
Sinterklaas
10:00
tradition
10:01
to
10:01
America.
10:02
This
10:02
figure
10:03
arrived
10:03
by
10:03
ship,
10:04
later
10:05
adapted
10:05
to
10:05
a
10:05
sleigh
10:06
and
10:06
left
10:07
gift
10:07
for
10:07
children.
10:08
The
10:08
name
10:09
Santa
10:09
Claus
10:09
is
10:10
derived
10:10
from
10:10
Sinterklaas.
10:12
Over
10:13
here,
10:13
he's
10:13
generally
10:14
called
10:14
Father
10:15
Christmas.
10:15
But
10:16
the
10:16
two
10:16
names
10:16
are
10:17
used
10:17
interchangeably.
10:18
The
10:19
modern
10:19
image
10:19
of
10:19
Santa
10:20
Claus
10:20
was
10:20
significantly
10:21
shaped
10:21
in
10:21
America
10:22
during
10:22
the
10:22
19th
10:23
century
10:23
by
10:24
Washington
10:24
Irving's
10:25
1812
10:26
revisions
10:26
for
10:26
the
10:26
history
10:27
of
10:27
New
10:27
York
10:28
which
10:28
mentions
10:28
St.
10:29
Nicholas
10:29
flying
10:30
in
10:30
a
10:30
wagon.
10:31
The
10:31
1823
10:32
poem
10:33
A
10:33
Visit
10:33
from
10:33
St.
10:34
Nicholas
10:34
which
10:34
is
10:35
commonly
10:35
known
10:35
as
10:35
Twas
10:36
the
10:36
Night
10:36
Before
10:36
Christmas
10:37
established
10:38
many
10:38
key
10:38
elements.
10:39
8
10:39
Reindeer
10:40
with
10:40
names
10:41
coming
10:41
down
10:41
chimneys,
10:42
the
10:42
sleigh,
10:43
his
10:43
jolly
10:44
appearance
10:44
and
10:45
Christmas
10:45
Eve
10:46
delivery.
10:47
Political
10:47
cartoonist
10:48
Thomas
10:48
Nast
10:49
created
10:49
influential
10:50
illustrations
10:51
in
10:51
the
10:51
1860s
10:52
to
10:52
the
10:52
1880s,
10:53
then
10:53
established
10:54
Santa's
10:55
workshop
10:55
at
10:55
the
10:55
North
10:55
Pole.
10:56
His
10:56
list
10:57
of
10:57
naughty
10:57
and
10:57
nice
10:58
children
10:58
and
10:59
his
10:59
rotund
11:00
bearded
11:00
appearance
11:02
across
11:02
the
11:02
20th
11:03
century.
11:03
Santa
11:04
becoming
11:04
his
11:04
own
11:04
standard.
11:05
Various
11:06
advertisements,
11:07
stories
11:07
and
11:08
media
11:08
helped
11:09
standardize
11:10
Santa's
11:10
image.
11:11
The
11:11
red
11:11
suit,
11:12
the
11:12
white
11:12
fur,
11:13
trim,
11:13
black
11:14
boots,
11:14
a
11:14
herd
11:15
of
11:15
reindeer
11:16
and
11:16
his
11:16
home
11:16
base
11:17
at
11:17
the
11:17
North
11:17
Pole
11:18
with
11:18
elves
11:18
as
11:18
helpers.
11:20
While
11:20
Kofa
11:20
Karola's
11:21
1930s
11:22
ad
11:22
campaigns
11:23
featuring
11:23
Santa
11:24
didn't
11:24
create
11:25
the
11:25
red
11:25
suited
11:25
image,
11:26
they
11:26
did
11:26
help
11:27
popularize
11:28
it
11:28
globally.
11:29
And
11:29
of
11:29
course
11:30
they
11:30
do
11:30
have
11:30
some
11:31
product
11:31
placement
11:31
in
11:32
this
11:32
movie.
11:33
But
11:33
em,
11:34
I
11:34
hear
11:34
you
11:34
cry.
11:35
Why
11:35
didn't
11:35
you
11:35
mention
11:36
the
11:36
actor
11:36
David
11:36
Huddleston
11:37
in
11:37
the
11:37
cast
11:38
list?
11:38
Isn't
11:38
he
11:39
credited
11:39
as
11:39
playing
11:40
Santa
11:40
Claus
11:40
in
11:40
the
11:41
movie?
11:42
Well,
11:42
I
11:42
think
11:43
it's
11:43
important
11:43
to
11:43
note
11:44
that
11:44
while
11:44
a
11:44
man
11:44
calling
11:45
himself
11:45
David
11:46
Huddleston
11:46
is
11:47
credited
11:47
for
11:47
playing
11:48
Santa,
11:49
I
11:49
think
11:49
we
11:49
all
11:49
know
11:50
that
11:50
this
11:50
man
11:50
is
11:50
the
11:51
real
11:51
deal.
11:51
And
11:52
if
11:52
you
11:52
don't
11:52
believe
11:52
me,
11:53
watch
11:53
the
11:54
behind
11:54
the
11:54
scenes
11:54
documentary
11:55
where
11:56
various
11:56
actors
11:57
and
11:57
the
11:57
director
11:58
all
11:58
confirm
11:59
he
11:59
is
12:00
the
12:00
real
12:00
Santa
12:00
Claus.
12:01
That
12:01
he
12:01
came
12:02
from
12:02
the
12:02
North
12:02
Pole
12:03
to
12:03
star
12:03
in
12:04
a
12:04
movie
12:04
about
12:05
his
12:05
life.
12:06
It's
12:06
true
12:07
and
12:07
that
12:07
is
12:07
what
12:08
this
12:08
episode
12:08
is
12:08
going
12:09
to
12:09
go
12:09
with.
12:10
Apart
12:11
from
12:11
Santa
12:11
himself,
12:12
we
12:12
had
12:13
some
12:13
other
12:13
men
12:13
to
12:13
thank
12:14
for
12:14
bringing
12:14
this
12:15
story
12:15
to
12:15
the
12:15
screen
12:16
and
12:16
that's
12:17
the
12:17
Salkins
12:18
again.
12:18
We've
12:19
got
12:19
to
12:19
mention
12:19
Superman
12:20
because
12:20
they
12:20
were
12:20
instrumental
12:21
in
12:21
that
12:21
series
12:22
too.
12:23
The
12:23
Salkins
12:24
father
12:24
and
12:24
son
12:24
team,
12:25
Alexander
12:25
and
12:25
Ilya
12:26
Salkind
12:27
specialized
12:27
in
12:28
adapting
12:28
beloved
12:29
previously
12:30
known
12:30
properties
12:31
with
12:31
built
12:32
in
12:32
audience
12:33
recognition.
12:34
They
12:34
also
12:34
did
12:34
the
12:35
Three
12:35
Musketeers
12:35
in
12:36
1973
12:37
and
12:37
the
12:37
Four
12:37
Musketeers
12:38
in
12:38
1974.
12:40
The
12:40
Salkinds
12:41
typically
12:41
operated
12:42
outside
12:42
the
12:42
Hollywood
12:43
studio
12:43
system.
12:44
They
12:44
would
12:45
get
12:45
the
12:45
international
12:45
financing
12:47
and
12:47
they
12:47
would
12:47
shoot
12:48
in
12:48
Europe,
12:49
often
12:50
using
12:50
plywood
12:51
studios
12:51
here
12:51
in
12:51
the
12:52
uk.
12:52
This
12:53
gave
12:53
them
12:53
creative
12:54
freedom,
12:54
but
12:54
it
12:54
also
12:55
meant
12:55
they
12:55
were
12:55
taking
12:55
on
12:56
significant
12:57
financial
12:57
risk
12:58
themselves.
12:59
And
13:00
being
13:00
honest,
13:01
finances
13:01
weren't
13:02
in
13:02
the
13:02
best
13:02
shape.
13:03
Superman
13:04
had
13:04
been
13:05
a
13:05
huge
13:05
hit
13:06
both
13:06
critically
13:06
and
13:07
commercially
13:07
and
13:08
that
13:08
had
13:08
been
13:08
filmed
13:09
back
13:09
to
13:09
back
13:09
with
13:09
Superman
13:10
2,
13:11
which
13:11
was
13:11
a
13:11
risky,
13:12
highly
13:12
ambitious
13:13
move.
13:14
And
13:14
that
13:14
led
13:14
to
13:14
a
13:14
breakdown
13:15
in
13:15
the
13:15
relationship
13:16
between
13:16
the
13:16
Salkins
13:17
producer
13:17
Pierre
13:18
Spengler
13:18
and
13:19
Superman
13:19
director
13:20
Richard
13:20
Donner.
13:21
I
13:21
go
13:22
into
13:22
it
13:22
in
13:22
detail
13:22
in
13:22
episode
13:23
231
13:24
of
13:24
the
13:24
podcast.
13:25
In
13:25
that
13:25
episode
13:26
I
13:26
also
13:26
go
13:27
into
13:27
Superman
13:28
3,
13:28
which
13:28
was
13:29
very
13:29
different
13:29
to
13:29
what
13:30
they
13:30
originally
13:30
intended,
13:31
with
13:31
Richard
13:32
Pryor's
13:32
campy,
13:33
broad
13:33
comedy,
13:34
leaving
13:34
Christopher
13:35
Reeve
13:35
feeling
13:35
cold
13:36
over
13:36
the
13:36
whole
13:37
ordeal.
13:38
Superman
13:38
3
13:39
wasn't
13:39
as
13:39
big
13:40
at
13:40
the
13:40
box
13:40
office,
13:40
but
13:41
still
13:41
enough
13:41
for
13:42
the
13:42
Salkinds
13:43
to
13:43
move
13:43
on
13:43
to
13:43
Supergirl,
13:44
directed
13:45
by
13:45
Jeannot
13:46
Szwarc,
13:46
the
13:47
same
13:47
guy
13:47
who'd
13:47
made
13:48
Jaws
13:48
2.
13:49
When
13:50
Superman
13:50
3
13:51
underperformed
13:51
critically
13:52
and
13:52
commercially
13:53
despite
13:53
still
13:53
making
13:54
money
13:54
in
13:54
1983,
13:56
the
13:56
Starkins
13:56
could
13:57
recover
13:57
from
13:57
that.
13:58
But
13:58
Supergirl
13:59
flopped
14:00
outright
14:00
in
14:00
1984,
14:01
making
14:02
$14.3
14:03
million
14:04
on
14:04
its
14:04
35
14:05
million
14:05
dollar
14:06
budget.
14:07
It
14:07
weakened
14:07
their
14:08
financial
14:08
position
14:09
and
14:09
industry
14:09
clout
14:10
considerably.
14:11
This
14:11
made
14:12
it
14:12
harder
14:12
to
14:12
secure
14:13
funding
14:13
and
14:13
distribution
14:14
deals
14:15
on
14:15
favorable
14:16
terms.
14:16
So
14:16
it
14:17
would
14:17
lead
14:17
to
14:17
the
14:17
Salkinds
14:18
selling
14:18
the
14:18
Superman
14:19
franchise
14:19
to
14:20
the
14:20
Cannon
14:20
group
14:21
and
14:21
then
14:22
then
14:22
making
14:22
Superman
14:23
4
14:23
the
14:23
quest
14:23
for
14:24
peace.
14:24
But
14:25
again,
14:25
episode
14:26
231
14:27
goes
14:27
into
14:27
the
14:27
whole
14:28
story
14:28
of
14:29
all
14:29
of
14:29
that.
14:30
Back
14:30
to
14:31
Santa
14:31
Claus
14:31
though,
14:32
because
14:32
this
14:32
had
14:33
been
14:33
a
14:33
project
14:33
that
14:34
predated
14:34
Superman
14:35
3
14:35
and
14:35
Supergirl.
14:37
Even
14:37
back
14:37
in
14:37
1982.
14:38
The
14:38
Salkinds
14:39
had
14:40
placed
14:40
a
14:40
six
14:40
page
14:41
ad
14:41
in
14:41
Variety
14:42
announcing
14:43
their
14:43
movie
14:44
All
14:44
About
14:45
Santa
14:45
Claus
14:45
with
14:46
Alexander
14:46
Salkind,
14:47
who
14:47
wasn't
14:48
shy
14:48
or
14:48
modest
14:48
about
14:49
money,
14:49
announcing
14:50
it
14:50
was
14:50
the
14:51
most
14:51
expensive
14:51
picture
14:52
ever
14:52
made,
14:53
costing
14:53
$50
14:54
million.
14:55
And
14:55
as
14:55
I
14:55
mentioned
14:56
last
14:56
episode
14:56
on
14:57
Scrooged,
14:58
movies
14:58
just
14:58
didn't
14:59
cost
14:59
that
14:59
much
14:59
money
15:00
in
15:00
the
15:00
80s.
15:01
Except
15:01
for
15:01
Rambo
15:02
3.
15:03
But
15:04
Alexander
15:04
Salkind
15:05
first
15:05
had
15:05
an
15:06
idea
15:06
about
15:06
a
15:07
Santa
15:07
Claus
15:07
movie
15:08
before
15:08
Superman
15:09
in
15:09
1975.
15:11
He
15:11
wanted
15:11
to
15:11
make
15:12
an
15:12
origin
15:12
story
15:12
for
15:13
Santa,
15:13
a
15:14
film
15:14
that
15:14
explained
15:15
how
15:15
he
15:15
came
15:15
to
15:15
be,
15:16
rather
15:16
than
15:17
a
15:17
movie
15:17
about
15:17
who
15:18
he
15:18
is.
15:19
It
15:19
was
15:19
Salkind
15:20
who
15:20
came
15:20
up
15:20
with
15:20
the
15:20
story
15:21
and
15:21
got
15:21
David
15:22
and
15:22
Leslie
15:22
Newman
15:23
to
15:23
write
15:23
the
15:23
screenplay.
15:24
They'd
15:25
also
15:25
been
15:25
involved
15:25
in
15:26
writing
15:26
the
15:26
first
15:26
three
15:27
Superman
15:27
films.
15:28
As
15:28
it
15:29
turned
15:29
out,
15:29
only
15:30
David
15:30
Newman
15:30
would
15:31
end
15:31
up
15:31
credited
15:31
for
15:31
the
15:32
screenplay,
15:32
with
15:33
David
15:33
and
15:33
Leslie
15:34
Newman
15:34
credited
15:35
for
15:35
the
15:35
story.
15:36
And
15:36
it's
15:37
worth
15:37
noting
15:37
as
15:37
well
15:37
that
15:38
a
15:38
lot
15:38
of
15:38
the
15:38
crew
15:39
from
15:39
Superman
15:40
are
15:40
also
15:40
working
15:41
on
15:41
this
15:41
movie,
15:42
including
15:42
in
15:42
the
15:42
effects
15:43
team.
15:43
But
15:44
not
15:44
only
15:44
did
15:44
the
15:44
Salkinds
15:45
produce
15:45
this
15:46
movie,
15:46
but
15:47
also
15:47
their
15:47
producing
15:48
partner
15:48
P.S.
15:49
bengler
15:49
was
15:49
involved
15:50
as
15:50
well.
15:51
There's
15:52
a
15:52
lot
15:52
of
15:52
stories
15:52
online
15:53
about
15:53
John
15:53
Carpenter
15:54
being
15:54
asked
15:54
to
15:54
direct
15:55
and
15:55
that
15:55
he
15:56
was
15:56
unhappy
15:56
with
15:56
the
15:57
script,
15:57
wanting
15:57
it
15:58
to
15:58
be
15:58
rewritten
15:58
by
15:59
himself,
15:59
as
16:00
well
16:00
as
16:00
composing
16:01
the
16:01
score
16:01
himself.
16:02
It's
16:02
worth
16:03
adding
16:03
that
16:03
Pierre
16:03
Spengler
16:04
has
16:05
refuted
16:05
this
16:05
claim
16:06
about
16:06
John
16:06
Carpenter,
16:07
but
16:08
allegedly
16:08
Carpenter
16:09
wanted
16:09
to
16:09
cast
16:10
Brian
16:10
Dennehy
16:11
as
16:11
Santa
16:12
and
16:12
also
16:12
wanted
16:13
final
16:13
cut.
16:13
But
16:14
the
16:14
Salkinds
16:15
are
16:15
not
16:15
really
16:15
the
16:15
sort
16:16
of
16:16
guys
16:16
who
16:16
relinquish
16:17
control
16:17
of
16:17
their
16:18
movies,
16:19
and
16:19
so
16:19
that
16:19
would
16:19
lead
16:19
to
16:20
John
16:20
Carpenter
16:20
allegedly
16:21
being
16:22
taken
16:22
out
16:22
of
16:22
the
16:22
equation.
16:24
Lewis
16:24
Gilbert,
16:25
who
16:25
directed
16:25
Alfie
16:26
as
16:26
well
16:26
as
16:27
three
16:27
Bond
16:27
films,
16:28
you
16:28
Only
16:28
Live
16:29
Twice,
16:29
the
16:29
Spy
16:30
who
16:30
Loved
16:30
Me,
16:30
and
16:30
Moonraker,
16:31
was
16:32
approached
16:32
to
16:32
direct,
16:33
but
16:33
disagreed
16:34
with
16:34
aspects
16:34
of
16:34
the
16:35
script.
16:36
Robert
16:36
Wise,
16:37
very
16:37
famous
16:38
for
16:38
directing
16:38
west
16:38
side
16:39
Story,
16:39
the
16:40
Sound
16:40
of
16:40
Music,
16:40
and
16:41
Star
16:41
the
16:41
Motion
16:42
Picture,
16:42
basically
16:43
also
16:44
thought
16:44
the
16:44
same,
16:44
and
16:45
he
16:45
also
16:45
declined
16:46
to
16:46
direct.
16:47
Ultimately,
16:47
the
16:48
Salkinds
16:48
went
16:48
to
16:49
Jeannot
16:49
Szwarc
16:49
because
16:50
he
16:50
was
16:51
reliable,
16:51
he
16:51
made
16:52
movies
16:52
on
16:52
time
16:52
and
16:53
on
16:53
budget,
16:53
and
16:54
they'd
16:54
shared
16:54
a
16:54
good
16:55
working
16:55
experience
16:56
with
16:56
him
16:56
on
16:56
Supergirl,
16:57
despite
16:58
that
16:58
movie
16:59
flopping
17:00
quite
17:00
badly.
17:01
Even
17:01
before
17:02
filming
17:02
started,
17:03
Ilya
17:03
Salkind
17:04
was
17:04
talking
17:04
to
17:04
the
17:05
press
17:05
about
17:05
sequels.
17:06
He
17:06
even
17:07
preempted
17:07
it
17:08
with
17:08
the
17:08
name
17:08
Son
17:09
of
17:09
Santa
17:09
Claus.
17:10
Spoiler
17:11
alert,
17:11
we
17:11
never
17:12
bought
17:12
a
17:12
Son
17:12
of
17:12
Santa
17:13
Claus.
17:14
They
17:14
were
17:14
so
17:14
certain
17:15
whatever
17:15
they
17:15
made
17:16
would
17:16
be
17:16
a
17:16
huge
17:16
hit,
17:17
because
17:18
who
17:18
doesn't
17:19
know
17:19
and
17:19
love
17:19
Santa
17:20
Claus?
17:21
Salkind
17:21
wasn't
17:22
the
17:22
only
17:22
one
17:22
who
17:23
believed
17:23
in
17:23
Santa
17:23
Claus.
17:24
The
17:24
movie
17:24
either.
17:25
Media
17:26
Home
17:26
Entertainment
17:27
paid
17:27
a
17:27
reported
17:28
$2.6
17:29
million,
17:30
then,
17:30
the
17:30
biggest
17:31
ever
17:31
advance
17:32
for
17:32
home
17:32
video
17:33
rights.
17:34
You've
17:34
really
17:34
got
17:35
to
17:35
love
17:35
their
17:35
enthusiasm
17:36
for
17:36
the
17:36
project,
17:37
and
17:37
it's
17:38
not
17:38
like
17:38
it's
17:38
even
17:38
misplaced,
17:40
because
17:40
a
17:40
film
17:40
about
17:40
Santa
17:41
Claus
17:41
is
17:42
practically
17:42
an
17:42
excuse
17:43
to
17:43
print
17:43
money.
17:44
But
17:44
I'm
17:44
going
17:45
to
17:45
come
17:45
back
17:45
to
17:45
money
17:46
a
17:46
bit
17:46
later.
17:47
So
17:48
they
17:48
had
17:48
a
17:48
script,
17:49
they
17:49
had
17:49
a
17:49
director,
17:50
they
17:51
had
17:51
a
17:51
lot
17:51
of
17:51
money
17:52
invested,
17:53
and
17:53
they
17:53
had
17:53
the
17:54
real
17:54
actual
17:54
Santa
17:55
on
17:55
his
17:55
way
17:55
from
17:56
the
17:56
North
17:56
Pole
17:56
to
17:57
star
17:57
in
17:57
a
17:57
movie
17:58
about
17:58
his
17:58
life.
17:59
But
17:59
they
17:59
needed
18:00
to
18:00
cast
18:00
some
18:00
more
18:00
people,
18:01
and
18:01
leading
18:01
their
18:02
cast
18:02
would
18:02
be
18:02
one
18:03
of
18:03
the
18:03
biggest,
18:04
but
18:04
also
18:04
diminutive
18:05
British
18:06
box
18:06
office
18:06
stars
18:07
of
18:07
the
18:07
day.
18:08
And
18:08
the
18:08
late
18:09
Dudley
18:09
Moore
18:10
was
18:10
a
18:10
comedy
18:11
phenomenon.
18:11
He
18:12
was
18:12
a
18:12
leading
18:12
figure
18:13
in
18:13
the
18:13
British
18:13
satirical
18:14
comedy
18:14
boom
18:14
of
18:15
the
18:15
60s
18:15
and
18:16
was
18:16
known
18:16
for
18:16
his
18:16
double
18:17
act
18:17
with
18:17
Peter
18:17
Cook.
18:18
They
18:18
worked
18:19
together
18:19
regularly,
18:20
most
18:20
famously
18:21
on
18:21
the
18:21
1967
18:22
hit
18:22
Bedazzled,
18:23
but
18:23
also
18:23
on
18:24
the
18:24
BBC
18:25
on
18:25
Not
18:25
Only
18:26
But
18:26
Also.
18:27
By
18:27
1978,
18:28
Moore
18:29
moved
18:29
to
18:29
Los
18:30
Angeles
18:30
to
18:30
further
18:30
his
18:31
film
18:31
career.
18:32
He
18:32
starred
18:32
in
18:32
Foul
18:33
Play
18:33
in
18:33
1978,
18:34
10
18:35
in
18:35
1979
18:37
and
18:37
Arthur
18:37
in
18:38
1981,
18:39
where
18:39
he
18:39
was
18:39
nominated
18:40
for
18:40
an
18:40
Oscar
18:41
for
18:41
Best
18:41
Actor
18:42
and
18:42
won
18:42
the
18:42
Golden
18:43
Globe
18:43
for
18:43
best
18:43
actor
18:44
in
18:44
a
18:44
musical
18:45
or
18:45
comedy.
18:46
Dudley
18:46
Moore
18:46
waa
18:47
hugecoupfor
18:48
the
18:48
movie.Hehadinputintothe
18:50
script,intothecharacterizationofPatch,namedafterMoore'sson.Patrick.Moore
18:55
hadevenbecome
18:56
anunlikelysexsymbolafter
18:58
starring
18:58
oppositeactualsexsymbolbo
19:00
Derekin10.TheSulkinsagreed
19:03
Bo
19:03
payhim$5
19:04
million,10%ofthebudget
19:07
to
19:07
get
19:07
him
19:07
in
19:08
themovie.Theyneeded
19:10
around
19:10
500extrastoplayelves.Theyneededtobeallmenaround
19:15
5foottall,5foot2attheirtallest.Tocast
19:19
so
19:19
manyelf
19:20
sizedmen,theproductionhadtosourcethem
19:22
fromoutside
19:23
oftheactingprofession.
19:24
Many
19:25
ofthemactually
19:25
became
19:26
actors
19:26
aftertheirexperience
19:27
onthismovie.Theroleoftheancient
19:30
elfwaswritten
19:31
withJamesCagneyinmind,but
19:33
in84,Cagneyturnedtheroledownbecauseof
19:36
his
19:36
age.FredAstaire
19:38
wasconsidered,butwhenthis
19:40
eventuallycametonothing,DudleyMorsesuggestedhis
19:43
because
19:43
of
19:44
his
19:44
age.
19:45
Fred
19:45
Astaire
19:46
was
19:46
considered,
19:47
but
19:47
when
19:48
this
19:48
eventually
19:48
came
19:49
to
19:49
nothing,
19:50
Dudley
19:50
Moore
19:51
cangetit.
19:52
It'sreally
19:52
easytoseeSuperman'sinfluencealloverthis
19:55
movie,and
19:56
no
19:57
moreso
19:57
than
19:57
themovie'sveryownLexLuthor,anantagonisticbusinessmanwhojustwantsto
20:02
make
20:02
asmuch
20:03
moneyas
20:03
possibleanddoesn'tcareaboutinjuringchildrento
20:06
get
20:07
it.Superman,ofcourse,hadGeneHackman,
20:10
and
20:10
theproducerswantedsomeoneofasimilar
20:12
staturetoplaybz.Theyofferedthe
20:15
roletoHarrisonFord,DustinHoffman,BurtReynoldsandJohnnyCarson,
20:19
who
20:20
all
20:20
turneditdown.ItwasofferedtoJohnLithgow
20:23
and
20:23
hereallyisjustperfectforthechildactors.Workingwithsomeone
20:27
BZ.
20:27
Lithgowmight
20:28
havebeen
20:29
intimidating,butCarrieKeeHein,who
20:31
playedCornelia,wishedthatshehadmoresceneswithhim.Shewasinterviewedinthe
20:36
early2000sabout
20:37
her
20:37
roleinthismovie,andshehas
20:39
veryfondmemoriesplayingonthesetwith
20:41
someone
20:42
like
20:42
Lithgow
20:43
might
20:43
have
20:44
been
20:44
intimidating,
20:44
but
20:45
Carrie
20:45
Kei
20:46
Heim,
20:46
who
20:47
goonto
20:47
starinthe
20:48
Pirate
20:48
Trap
20:48
2in
20:49
1986,but
20:50
retiredfrom
20:51
actingshortly
20:51
afterwards.
20:52
Fitzpatrickhadaroleinviceversain1988,butalsoseeminglyretired
20:58
from
20:58
actingafterthat.Thecastwasroundedoutbyquitealot
21:02
Fitzpatrick,
21:03
who
21:03
played
21:04
Joe
21:04
because
21:05
they
21:05
were
21:06
around
21:06
DonnaStelland
21:07
MelvinHayes.Andhonestly,
21:09
Ididn'tputtwo
21:10
andtwo
21:10
together
21:11
untilveryrecently.ThatAnyawasDaisyfromKeepingUpAppearances,famously
21:16
filmednotfarfrom
21:18
where
21:18
IliveinBindleywoodsontheoutskirtsofCoventry.
21:22
AndIguess
21:22
thequestiononeveryone's
21:23
lipsisifthisis
21:25
amovieaboutSantaClausandallofhis
21:27
reindeer.
21:28
Judy
21:28
Cornwell,
21:29
Don
21:29
Estelle
21:31
there'saverysimple
21:32
explanationforthis,because
21:33
unlikeSanta
21:34
Claus,Rudolphisnotinthepublic
21:37
domain.Butall
21:38
ofthe
21:38
rest
21:38
ofSanta'sreindeerare.So
21:41
we'vegot
21:41
Dasher,Dancer,
21:43
Prancer,Vixen,Cupid,
21:45
DonnaandBlitzen.
21:47
And
21:47
youdon'tjust
21:48
castrandom
21:49
reindeerfor
21:50
theseroles.TheteamwenttoNorwaytoresearchherds
21:53
ofreindeerjusttofindtheperfectones.Althoughthereareonlyeightinthemovie,theproductionwanted20animalsspeciallytrained.Animaltrainersfound4,000
22:06
deeronafarminLapland,andthe
22:09
ownerarranged
22:09
forthe20
22:10
bestanimals,specificallythosethatwouldrespondto
22:13
training.
22:14
Thesewerewildanimals,afterall.Allofthe
22:17
Donner
22:18
and
22:18
betrainedtobehandled,harnessedandtrainedtoworkwithotherreindeer,whichissomething
22:23
notmanyreindeerwillactually
22:25
do,becausereindeerhavehierarchies.Andsogettingeight
22:29
ofthemtoworktogether
22:31
is
22:31
quitesomemeanfeat.Reindeersalsolose
22:35
theirantlersevery
22:36
year,sowhentheywerechosen,theyhadnoantlers
22:39
andshootinghadtoaccommodatethemtobe
22:41
attheirmostantlerious,Iguess,isthebestword.Antlersgenerallytake
22:46
threemonthstogrow.Theselectedreindeerwereputintoquarantinebefore
22:51
beingtransportedto
22:52
England
22:53
forfilming,wheretheywere
22:54
put
22:54
tothetestpullingwagonsasateamacrosstheBuckinghamshirecountryside
22:59
beforemovingtoPinewood
23:00
Studiosandfilmingonset.Whichwouldhavealsobeen
23:04
averystrangeexperiencefortheseanimals.
23:06
Butinall
23:07
honesty,theyhandleditlikepros.Butdespitethembeingatthispointprofessionalactors,theycouldn'tdo
23:14
everythingthat
23:15
was
23:15
neededforthe
23:16
reindeerinthis
23:16
movie,especiallyfor
23:18
some
23:18
ofthemoreemotionalscenes.So
23:21
they
23:21
decidedtouseanimatronic
23:22
reindeer.Andsocoartdirector
23:25
MalcolmStone
23:26
supervisedthe
23:27
building
23:28
afullsized
23:29
modelreindeeraswellasreindeerheadandshouldermodels.The
23:33
full
23:33
size
23:34
reindeerwereusedforsleighpullingscenesor
23:36
atthestart
23:37
withthereindeer
23:38
clapsandthe
23:39
head.Onlyreindeerwereused
23:40
forwhen
23:41
theywereintheirstables.Theanimatronicsherewere
23:44
builtbyDerekMeddingsandthemainpuppeteerforDonnawasactuallyBrianHenson,thesonofJimHenson.DerekNeddingshad
23:52
workedprolifically
23:53
withGerryAndersononshowslikeStingrayandwasthespecialeffects
23:57
supervisor
23:58
onThunderbirds.HealsoworkedontheBondmovies
24:01
inthe70s,allthe
24:03
waythroughtoGoldeneyein1995,creatingvariousminiatures.Healsoworkedon
24:08
Batman
24:09
andunsurprisingly,healsoworkedonSuperman.LikeIsaid,theexpertisebehindthe
24:15
sceneson
24:15
thismovieisimmense.
24:17
Forthefullsizereindeer,theyBuiltaplatforminwhich
24:20
they
24:20
puta
24:20
bodywithjointedlegswhichwere
24:22
controlledby
24:23
aboutadozenpeople
24:24
underneaththe
24:25
platformwithvariouslevers,rods
24:27
and
24:28
cranks.Whentheyneededto
24:30
falldown
24:30
for
24:30
theblizzardscene,
24:31
thecontrollersunderneathwouldliterallypushthecrankandthereindeerwouldfalloverthe
24:37
headand
24:38
the
24:38
son
24:39
of
24:39
Jim
24:39
Henson.
24:40
Derek
24:41
Meddings
24:41
had
24:42
worked
24:42
prolifically
24:43
with
24:43
Gerry
24:43
Anderson
24:44
on
24:44
shows
24:45
like
24:45
Stingray
24:46
and
24:46
was
24:47
one
24:47
ofthebestthings
24:47
inthismovie.Itblowsmeawayhowdetailedtheseanimatronicsare.This
24:52
movie,
24:53
need
24:53
Iremind
24:54
anyone,is40
24:55
yearsoldthis
24:56
year.And
24:57
thereindeerlookfantastic.The
25:00
scenesofthereindeerpullingSanta'ssleighonthe
25:02
rooftopswasfilmed
25:03
atPinewoodwith
25:05
theactualreallifereindeer.ThescenesofSanta'ssleighflying
25:09
throughthenightskieswerefilmedatPinewoodon
25:11
acrane.
25:11
Obviouslynotwiththeactualreallife
25:14
reindeer.The
25:15
sleighwasfullscaleandthecityscapeswereadded
25:17
inpost
25:18
production
25:19
byOscarwinningopticaleffectssupervisor
25:21
Roy
25:21
Field,who,let'ssay
25:23
ittogether,alsoworkedon
25:25
Superman.Theyusedminiaturesforsomeofthetrickierflyingsequences
25:29
whichwereremotecontrolleddeermoldedin
25:31
plasticwithsmallmotors
25:33
intheirheadsandnecks.Butwhileallofthiswasgoingon,
25:37
specificallythereindeertraining,actuallyAlexanderSolkindwasatthe
25:41
1984
25:42
CannesFilmFestivalin
25:44
May
25:44
1984
25:45
andhearrangedfor15propellerpoweredplanesto
25:49
flyasSantaClaus,themoviebannerin
25:51
theskiesabovethe
25:52
festival,topromotethemovieandannouncedthatproductionwasdueto
25:57
begin.Thesearethelevelsthat
25:59
theSulkinsweregoingtoto
26:01
lettheindustry
26:01
knowaboutthisincrediblyexpensiveproduction.
26:05
It'sworthadding
26:06
that
26:06
thereindeerusedinthe
26:07
movielived
26:08
therestoftheirlivesoutintheUKin
26:11
undisclosedparks.
26:12
AndI'msurethey
26:13
hadsomegreatstoriesfromthesetto
26:14
telltheirgrandchildren.Doreindeerhavegrandchildren?Idon't
26:18
know.Butanyway,theotherthing
26:20
that
26:20
alwaysblowsme
26:21
awayisthegrandioseset
26:23
oftheelvesworkshop.Builtonmultiple
26:26
levelsand
26:27
brimmingwith
26:27
more
26:28
pinefurniturethanyourgrandparentsdiningroom.Ittrulyis
26:31
anastonishingachievement.Infact,thisisamovieverymuchoftwohalves.ThefirstisanintroductiontoSantaandthesecondisthemodern
26:40
dayshowingSantastrugglingunderthe
26:42
weightoftheindustrialized20thcenturyandgreaterconsumer
26:46
Alexander
26:46
Salkind
26:47
was
26:47
at
26:48
the
26:48
1984
26:49
Cannes
26:49
Film
26:49
Festival
26:50
in
26:50
May
26:51
theelves
26:51
hadtobechoreographedintheworkshop.Playingpasttheparcelandpaintingtoyswithbeards.Itisso
26:58
whimsical
26:59
andso
26:59
fun.Allofthetoys
27:01
inthatworkshopwerehandmadebyprofessionalCarpenterstoo.Andafterfilmingended,
27:06
theyweredonated
27:07
tochildren'shomesandcharities.So
27:10
all
27:10
ofthosebeautifulwoodentoysfoundahome.AsIsaid,
27:14
themoviewas
27:15
filmedatPinewoodStudios,specificallyonTheAlbert
27:18
R.Broccoli007stagebetween20Augustand20November
27:24
1984.
27:25
PierreSpengler'soriginalplanfor
27:27
theelaborateElfFactorysetwastokeepit
27:31
upatplywood,andhe
27:32
wantedthestudioto
27:34
runSanta
27:34
ClaustheMovieTours.
27:36
CyrilHoward,whoran
27:38
PinewoodStudiosin
27:39
the80s,declinedthatrequest
27:42
because
27:42
rentingstages
27:43
for
27:43
movies
27:44
wasfarmorelucrativethanrunningSantaClaus
27:47
the
27:47
Movietours,whichprobablywouldhave
27:49
only
27:49
been
27:49
heldatChristmas.Sotheentiresetwasdestroyedshortlyafterfilming.Now
27:55
I'mthinkingof
27:55
it.HowmagicalwouldaSantaClaustheMovieset
27:58
tourhave
27:59
actuallybeen?Especiallythatbeautifultoy
28:02
factory.Speakingofatoyfactory,orToyland,shallwesay.Timetosegue
28:09
intotheobligatoryKeanureference
28:10
ofthisepisode.Andifyouarenew
28:12
hereandyou
28:13
don'tknowwhatthatis,
28:14
it'swhereI
28:15
tryandlink
28:15
everymovie
28:15
thatIfeaturewith
28:16
KeanuReeves,because
28:18
likeSantaClaus,heisthebest
28:20
ofallmen.Andthisisareallyeasyone,
28:23
actually,because
28:24
Keanu,Reevessaid,starredin
28:26
aChristmasfilm
28:26
calledBabesin
28:28
Toylandalongside
28:29
DrewBarrymore.Itwasactuallythefollowingyearin1986,soDrewBarrymorewaslike10
28:36
atthetime.
28:37
Itisa
28:38
Christmasmovie.Santadoes
28:39
appearinit.AndI
28:40
distinctlyrememberthismoviebecausethere's
28:43
avery
28:43
specificsongthatspells
28:45
outavery
28:46
specificAmericantown.TheSchoolforBabes
28:49
inToyland
28:50
wasactuallydoneby
28:51
Leslie
28:52
Bricus,whowrote
28:53
songsforthismovie
28:55
withHenryMancini.
28:57
Speakingofwhich,thescoreforSantaClaustheMovieis
29:01
composedbyHenry
29:02
Manciniandthe
29:03
movieincludes
29:05
theAllardJonessongSongEveryChristmasEve,whichis
29:08
writtenbyManciniandLeslieBricus.
29:12
AledJonesisalsofamous
29:14
atChristmasintheuk,mostlyfortheSnowmanand
29:18
thesongWalking
29:18
intheAir.But
29:20
hedidn'tsingWalkingin
29:21
theYellowfor
29:23
themovie
29:23
theSnowman.Heonlysangtheversionthatwasinthecharts.AlecJonesdoessingthesongforthismovie.There's
29:31
alsoathemesongforthismoviecalledChristmas
29:34
allover
29:34
theWorldandthey
29:36
wantedabigpop
29:37
startosingthat
29:38
themesong.
29:39
ItwasoriginallywrittenwithFreddieMercuryinmind,buthedeclinedbecauseQueen
29:44
werecommittedto
29:45
SchoolHighlanderatthetime.TheproducersapproachedBryanAdams,
29:49
who
29:49
didademoforthem,aswellasPaulMcCartney,
29:52
whowasalsoaskedtoproduce
29:54
songs
29:54
but
29:55
ultimately
29:55
didn't.SoitendedupbeingSheenaEaston,who'denjoyedmovietiein
30:00
successwithher1981bondthemeforyourEyesOnly.SheendedupsingingChristmasallovertheworldfortheFrench
30:08
release.PierreSpenglerwastoldabouta16yearoldgirlwithabeautifulvoice
30:13
topotentiallysingtheFrenchversionofthesong.Hewasn't
30:18
tooimpressed,soitneverhappened.Butthat
30:20
girlwasCelineDion.
30:22
Sohereallydidmisstheboat
30:25
inhavingCeline
30:26
Dion
30:26
singthethemesong.Nopunintended
30:29
either.Herheartdidindeedgoon
30:32
whenitcametomarketingthis
30:33
movie
30:34
this
30:34
filmisknownasboth
30:36
Santa
30:36
The
30:37
School
30:38
for
30:38
Babes
30:39
in
30:39
Toyland
30:40
was
30:40
actually
30:41
done
30:42
by
30:42
Leslie
30:43
Bricusse,
30:43
who
30:44
wrote
30:44
songs
30:45
for
30:45
this
30:46
movie
30:47
with
30:47
Henry
30:48
ofthefilm
30:49
haveSantaClaustheMovie
30:51
onthe
30:51
COVIDsimplybecausetheSulkins
30:53
wantedto
30:54
makesure
30:54
Mancini
30:55
and
30:55
the
30:56
movie
30:56
includes
30:57
the
30:57
Aled
30:58
Jones
30:58
song
30:59
Song
30:59
Every
31:00
Christmas
31:00
Claus.Asawhole.SantaClauscan'tbe
31:04
and
31:05
Leslie
31:05
Bricusse.
31:06
Aled
31:06
Jones
31:07
is
31:07
also
31:08
famous
31:08
tieinmaterial,thesoundtrack,novelizations,toys,etc
31:14
weremarketedasSanta
31:15
Clausthe
31:16
Movietieins.OneofthewaystheSulkinsraised
31:20
the
31:20
$50
31:20
milliontheyneededtofinance
31:22
thefilmwasfromproduct
31:24
placementdealsandatthetimeTristarwhodistributedthemoviewereowned
31:30
byCocaCola.Joe
31:32
isseensippinga
31:33
canofCokeandfeelingveryrefreshedafterwards.There's
31:37
also
31:37
ascene
31:37
inwhichBeezy's
31:38
factory
31:38
hasbeenemptiedof
31:39
allthe
31:40
employees,
31:41
leaving
31:41
only
31:42
anabandonedwarehousewith
31:44
abrightredCocaColavendingmachine.McDonald'salso
31:48
hadproductplacementwithJoeoutsidethewindowofa
31:52
restaurant
31:53
peeringintoseecustomersenjoying
31:55
their
31:55
burgers
31:55
andfries.ThechainactuallygaveawaySantaClaustheMoviebooksin
32:00
customersHappyMealsandof
32:03
coursethiswasanexpensivemovie
32:05
andof
32:05
coursetheywanteda
32:06
verylavish
32:07
premiere.Sotheydid
32:08
havea
32:09
verylavishpremierein
32:10
LondonwiththethenPrinceCharles
32:13
inattendance.Santa
32:15
Clausalsoappearedatthepremiere
32:17
andgreetedthePrince.And
32:18
bythatImeanthereal
32:19
SantaClausfromthismovie.SantaClausthe
32:22
Moviewas
32:23
releasedonthe27th
32:24
ofNovember
32:25
1985which
32:27
was
32:27
ThanksgivingweekendintheUS.Itwas
32:30
released
32:31
thesameweekasRocky4which
32:33
wenttonumberone.Suchof
32:35
coursethemovie
32:36
onlyhadonedaythatweektomakeasplashandendedupdebutingat12th.It
32:41
jumpedtosecondin
32:42
itssecondweek
32:43
beforedroppingtofifthinitsthirdweekand
32:46
it
32:46
would
32:46
stayatfifthtillitsfifth
32:48
weekbeforeitdroppedto13thwhich
32:51
coincidentallywastheweekafterChristmas.EliasoriginallywantedthemovietobereleasedinOctober1985,believingthat
33:01
more
33:01
Santa
33:02
Claus
33:02
the
33:03
Movie
33:03
on
33:03
the
33:04
cover
33:04
simpl
33:05
because
33:05
the
33:05
Salkinds
33:06
wanted
33:06
as
33:06
sayingitwouldhavemade
33:08
$100
33:08
millionifithadbeenreleasedinOctober,butTroyStarrefusedtoreleaseitin
33:14
October.Solet'stalkabout
33:17
money
33:17
becauseweknowtheSoulkinspentsomeseriousmoneyonthismovie.
33:21
Andwhenitcame
33:22
totheboxoffice,it'ssafeto
33:24
saythiswasanotorious
33:26
flop.Itgrossed$23.7million
33:30
domesticallyintheUS.Itwas
33:32
releasedon
33:32
29November1985hereinthe
33:35
UK,
33:36
whereitbecamethe
33:37
seventhhighestgrossingmovieoftheyear,earningjustover$5million,whichisa
33:42
bigdeal.AndasIsaid,welovethismoviehere
33:46
intheuk.So
33:48
notonly
33:48
wasit
33:48
afinancialflop,itwasalsoa
33:51
bitofacriticalone.Nowitcurrentlyhasa22%ofrotten
33:55
tomatoesfrom
33:56
a
33:56
scene
33:57
in
33:57
which
33:58
BZ's
33:58
factory
33:59
has
33:59
been
34:00
emptied
34:01
of
34:01
all
34:02
the
34:02
employees,
34:03
leaving
34:03
only
34:04
popcornmeter
34:05
is67%.AsI
34:08
said,thepeoplelovethis
34:09
movie.RogerEbertnoted
34:11
thatthereweresomepositivepointstothefilm.Hewouldsayitdoesaninteresting
34:16
jobofvisualizingSanta'sworkshopandhiselves.Healsopraisedthespecialeffects,particularlytheNew
34:22
York
34:23
City
34:23
flyoversequence
34:24
involvingSanta.EberthadpraiseforLithgow'snice,hatefulperformance,butwrotethatthevillainwasn'tdrawnbigenough.Hebasicallyseededthatyoungchildrenwould
34:35
probablylikemostofthefilm,buttheolderchildrenandadultsarelikelytofindalotof
34:40
italittlethin.VincentCanbyof
34:43
the
34:43
NewYorkTimes
34:43
wasless
34:44
positivethanEbert,
34:45
callingtheproduction
34:46
elaborateandtacky,and
34:48
hadnopraisefortheproductiondesign.AlonsoDuraldi,theauthor
34:52
ofhaveYourselfAMovieLittleChristmas,
34:55
calleditshrill,overdoneandobnoxious,listing
34:59
itin
34:59
thechapter
34:59
ofWorld'sWorstChristmasFilmsand
35:02
alsoincludeditonalistofseven
35:04
Christmasfilmssobad,
35:05
they'rebad.So
35:07
yeah,weobviouslynever
35:08
didgetSon
35:09
of
35:09
SantaClaus,didwe?Sorry,
35:11
IlyaSulkind.Andwhilethere's
35:13
neverbeenasequel,probablynever
35:15
aremakeeither.It'sworthaddingthatthis
35:18
film
35:19
hasrecentlyhada4K
35:21
restorationby
35:22
Britishcompany
35:23
SilverSaltRestoration.Andthat
35:25
4Kremasterwasreleasedin
35:27
cinemasin
35:28
2023,
35:29
butonlyhere
35:29
intheUK.Itdid
35:31
actuallymakealittle
35:31
bitofmoneyanditisnowavailableon4K
35:34
diskaswell,which
35:35
Ihavenotseen,butIdidbuyiton
35:37
BluRay
35:38
so
35:38
IdohavetheBlurayversionof
35:40
this
35:40
moviein
35:41
2023.
35:42
Also,the
35:43
Guardian
35:44
listedthemostairedfilmsovertheChristmasperiodin
35:47
theuk.Theyanalyzedfivedecadesof
35:50
ChristmasTVairingsand
35:52
onlyoneineightfilmswas
35:54
actuallyChristmasthemed.Ofthe
35:56
non
35:56
Christmasthemed
35:57
films,ChittyTittyBangBang,MaryPoppins
36:00
and
36:00
thewizardof
36:01
Ozcameoutontopof
36:03
ChittyChittyBangBangisactuallythe
36:05
numberoneChristmasfilmintheUKofalltime.It'snotaChristmas
36:09
filmandI
36:10
thinkalsothat'sveryBritish
36:11
aswell.I
36:12
don't
36:12
knowmanyAmericanswho
36:13
know
36:14
ChittyTittyBangBang,butanywayit
36:16
soundsquiterude,butI
36:17
promise
36:18
it's
36:18
not.Butthe
36:19
mostlisted
36:20
Christmasthemed
36:21
film
36:21
between1973and2022
36:24
intheUKwithregardstoyearlyairings
36:28
was
36:28
SantaClaustheMovie.Sinceitsreleasein1985ithasappeared21times.I'dwagerthat
36:37
isnow
36:37
24
36:38
times
36:38
sinceit'sbeen2yearssince
36:39
thearticle,3years
36:41
since2022.ItreallyisaperennialChristmas
36:45
favorite.Itsclosestcompetitioninthatlistwas1951'sScrooge.
36:51
Ihaveseenthismovieafewtimes,butIpaid
36:54
extraattentionthiswatchandseveral
36:56
thingsstoodout.Firstly,thegrimnessoftheideaofClaus
37:01
and
37:01
Anyaessentiallyfreezingtodeath.
37:04
Ihadn't
37:04
reallythoughtofthatbefore.There'sdefinitelyamomentofwonderingiftheyactuallydied.The
37:10
nextthingistheemotionalcoreofchildlessnessthatI
37:14
feelsoverystrongly
37:15
frombothClausandAnya
37:17
and
37:18
theended
37:18
withthemessentially
37:19
adoptingtwoorphanchildren.I'dargue
37:22
that
37:22
Corneliamightbemissed
37:24
byhernanny,buthonestly,thethingInoticedmore
37:26
than
37:26
anything,andmaybethisismyverbaldioramaheadtalking,butit's
37:31
thestunningproductiondesignandthein
37:33
cameravisualeffects.Iadorethereindeer,theelfworkshopis
37:37
stunning.Everythingaboutthismovie
37:39
screams$50million.Andwhile
37:41
it
37:41
maybeextravagant,it's
37:43
allonscreenforme.
37:45
Foreveryslightlydodgy80seffect,there'ssometrulywonderfulset
37:49
designthat
37:50
IneverappreciatedquiteasmuchasIdo
37:53
now.
37:54
Thefirst
37:54
halfofthemovieworksreallywell.ClausbecomingSantaClaus,spendingcenturiesbecomingthemythical
38:00
iconuntilthe20th
38:02
centurycomesalongandhecannolongercope.It
38:05
makes
38:05
totalsenseina
38:06
way.
38:07
A
38:07
workshopfullofelvesand
38:09
woodencraftedtoyscan'tsustainthelevelsofcommercialism
38:12
we'vealready
38:13
seen
38:13
onrecentepisodes.Andthisishowthesemovieslinktogethersoperfectly.Thecapitalism
38:19
and
38:19
commercializationof
38:20
ChristmasinJingle
38:21
alltheWayandScroogedleadtoexactlywhat
38:24
happensinthe
38:25
secondhalfof
38:26
thismovie.Thepressuretobuildmoreandmore
38:29
leads
38:29
toprodigiousElfinventorPatchfully
38:32
automating
38:32
theworkshoptomeetdemand.
38:34
ButPatch's
38:35
ambitionsfloathigherthanhisabilitiesandaftertoysarereturned,
38:40
hedispatches,excusethepunhimselfto
38:42
New
38:43
York
38:43
andnaivelyalignshimselfwithbz.Andthisis
38:47
possiblythereasonwhythismovieresonates
38:49
somuchwiththeBritishpublic.BZis
38:53
thepantomimevillainperfectlyplayed
38:55
byJohn
38:55
Chitty
38:56
Bang
38:56
Bang,
38:57
Mary
38:57
recordtosay
38:58
how
38:58
muchhe
38:58
hated
38:59
theexperienceof
39:00
makingthismovieanddoesn'tunderstandwhy
39:02
Britainlovesit
39:03
somuch.Buthonestly,himshoutingChristmastoo
39:07
isasgreatanexampleof
39:08
Americancapitalismasanything.AndhowBeasleymanagedtoget
39:13
ateddybearwithglass
39:14
and
39:14
know
39:14
Chitty
39:15
Chitty
39:15
Bang
39:15
Bang,
39:16
but
39:16
notevengoingtothinkaboutthat.ThismaybeaBritishAmericanco
39:21
production,butthisisawhollyBritishinstitution.Many
39:25
ofusgrew
39:25
up
39:25
watchingthismoviein
39:26
the80sand
39:27
foragenerationofgrownassadultsthis
39:30
isthe
39:31
pinnacleofChristmas
39:32
movies.Itundoubtedlynostalgia
39:34
goggles,butalsohasapurityandnaivetyto
39:38
thestoryoftheoriginsof
39:39
theSanta
39:39
myth.Theideathatall
39:41
of
39:41
theseChristmastraditionslikethe
39:43
Naughtyand
39:43
nicelistcamefromcenturiesofSanta'sstoryevolving,itstrugglesmore
39:49
inthemoderndayand
39:51
the
39:51
movieattemptstointroduceconflict.
39:53
AndasmuchasIloveJohnLithgow,noelfrespectingbusinessman
39:58
wouldagreetogiveaway
39:59
aproduct
40:00
for
40:00
free.EvenifChristmastooin
40:02
Marchwill
40:03
beachargeableproduct.Theideaofa
40:05
lollipopthatmakeschildrenfloatissosillyit'salmostbeyondpanto.Anddon'tevenget
40:11
mestartedonthesuperdupernew
40:13
pup.
40:13
It
40:13
literallydoes
40:14
notmakesense.Butthe
40:16
ideathat
40:17
Santaisbecoming
40:18
disillusionedinthecapitalistnatureofmodernChristmasandgiftgiving,becomingcorruptedbygreed.
40:24
Itatleasttries
40:25
to
40:25
commenton
40:25
that.There'ssomeseriouslybrilliant
40:28
talentbothbehindand
40:29
infrontof
40:29
the
40:30
cameraonthismovieanditdeservessomuch
40:32
morerespectthananyone
40:34
everseemstogiveit.Thisisan
40:37
old
40:37
fashionedChristmasmoviewherethe
40:39
first
40:39
halfisgreatandthe
40:40
secondhalf,let'sbehonest,
40:42
wasbetteredbyElf.Buttheidea
40:45
thatthe
40:45
sulkinshadto
40:46
profitfromSantaClausperfectlysummarisesthismovie.ThiswastheirChristmastoo.Theabsoluteironyofthefilm'santicorporatemessageandstand
40:57
againstthecommercializationofChristmasis
40:59
underminedby
41:00
thefactthisfilm
41:01
isessentiallyacashinontheSanta
41:04
Claus
41:04
brand.Americansputit
41:07
onthenaughtylist,buttheUK
41:09
hasitonthenicelistand
41:11
probablyalways
41:12
will.Fortyyearslater,the
41:14
Britishpublic'sloveforitshowsnosignofabating.It'spricey,overlystuffed,extravagant,bestenjoyed,
41:22
winnertipple,andfullofnostalgia.Abitlike
41:26
atraditionalBritish
41:27
Christmas.Andas
41:29
forSantaClaushimself,
41:30
hesprangtohissleigh,tohisteam
41:33
gaveawhistleandawaytheyall
41:35
flewlikethedownofthethistle.ButI
41:37
heardhimexclaim
41:38
andhedrove
41:39
out
41:39
ofsight.HappyChristmasto
41:41
allandtoalla
41:43
goodnight.
41:45
Thankyouforlistening.As
41:46
always,
41:46
Iwouldloveto
41:46
hearyour
41:46
thoughts
41:47
onSantaClaustheMovieandthank
41:49
youforyourcontinuedsupportofthispodcastin2025andbeyond.Ifyou
41:55
wannashowyoursupportinmultipledifferent
41:57
ways,youcould
41:58
leavearatingor
41:59
reviewwhereveryoufoundthispodcast.Youcouldtellyourfriendsandfamilyaboutthis
42:03
podcastoryoucanfind
42:05
meandfollowmeon
42:06
socialmediaandyoucansharethe
42:08
podcastthatway.
42:09
IamatVerbalDiorama.Youcansharepostslike
42:13
posts,comment
42:14
onposts.Itallhelpsreally
42:16
to
42:16
getthewordout
42:17
thereandtohopefullyget
42:19
otherpeopletoknowthispodcast
42:21
andknowwhatI'vebeendoing.
42:22
Igenuinelylovedoingthispodcastandanythingyoucould
42:25
do
42:26
tohelp
42:26
wouldbesoappreciated.Ifyou
42:29
likethisepisodeonSantaClaustheMovie,
42:31
of
42:32
American
42:32
capitalism
42:32
as
42:33
anything.
42:33
And
42:34
how
42:34
BZ
42:35
managed
42:35
to
42:35
get
42:36
a
42:36
teddy
42:37
singleChristmas
42:38
episodethatIhaveeverdone.However,Iamgoing
42:41
torecommendyou
42:43
listento
42:43
episode185,
42:44
theMuppetChristmasCarol,becauseI'verecommendedthatinthelast
42:48
twoepisodesaswell.SoImightaswell
42:49
carry
42:50
on.Itis
42:50
afantasticChristmas
42:51
movie.
42:52
But
42:52
specificallyforthisepisodeIalsowantedtoappend
42:55
episode281which
42:57
is
42:57
onElfandElfisafantasticmodernChristmasmovie
43:02
that,asI
43:03
say
43:03
does
43:03
dothe
43:04
ElfinNewYorkstuffa
43:06
little
43:06
bitbetterthanthismoviedoes.
43:08
Butthat'snot
43:09
todiscreditthismovie
43:10
becauseIreallygenuinelythinkit'sfun
43:12
andkind
43:13
ofloveit.Asalways,
43:15
give
43:15
mefeedback,letmeknow
43:16
whatyouthink.Thisisthelastepisode
43:19
of
43:19
2025.Iamtaking
43:21
ashortbreakovertheChristmasperiod,butIwillbebackinearly2026withanimation
43:28
season.Yes,
43:28
itisreturningagainforthesixthyearrunningnowIbelieve
43:34
andwearestartingthe
43:35
year
43:35
2026ashasbeentraditiontodosoforthepastfewyears
43:39
withaPixarmovieandwith
43:42
oneoftheircrowningachievementsinanimationstorytellingWonderandscares.I'm
43:49
soexcited
43:50
tofinallybe
43:51
bringingMonstersInc.
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44:05
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44:09
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44:11
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44:14
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44:15
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44:32
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