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  Uh one of our, like I said, Brandon won't be making it, so we're just filling in.
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  So I bring I figure I'd bring in my best colleague on the the last show of the week, who is really in tune with what's going on in Iran and the Middle East.
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  He's been there for years.
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  He's in Iraqi, Syrian, Iranian, I don't know, what other specialists.
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  But I'd like to touch base in the first segment with Sargis.
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  Welcome, Sargus.
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  And let's do something about talking about the Middle East in the first segment, and then we could do a little bit about maybe a color revolution that may take place in America on the second segment.
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  Go ahead, sir.
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  Welcome back.
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  No, much appreciated.
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  Um, I'm glad we were able to step in last second and uh help out a colleague and uh I'm surprised you're on the air.
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  I thought that you guys got gerrymandered uh in Virginia.
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  So I'm shocked that you can even talk right now.
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  Well, you know, the the best part about uh yeah, it is it is really it's really sad.
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  And you know what's it's up on social media on X today?
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  Uh Governor Abba Abigail Spamberger said that now we can go for the whole country.
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  And for you guys like you and I, we know what that means.
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  It's a color revolution like Ukraine.
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  But for the rest of the country, I don't think the people understand it.
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  Um they're looking for, they're gonna take the big enchilada if it happens in November, and they're gonna do whatever they have to do that the Republicans will have no voice.
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  Now, the good part is I understand.
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  I spoke to Mike Shory this morning that the Supreme Court's gonna take it up right away, you know, if it's uh possible for them to do this.
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  Imagine you have a purple state.
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  Um, you have a lot of a lot of red state in in the state, it's bigger than blue.
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  But uh to say, hey, you know, we'll give you one seat.
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  Why not just take them all?
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  I mean, why why give anything, right?
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  And and oh, this is fair because what we what we want to do is we want to make it fair.
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  No, the senator from that state, former uh VP candidate Tim Kane to Hillary Clinton.
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  Uh, he said uh this is not about Jerry Manning, this is about Trump.
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  So they're going after Trump and they're going after the country.
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  Um Trump will be there, you know, for his term, or maybe not, maybe they'll beach him, whatever.
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  But the point is you don't take the whole state because you're mad at somebody that won.
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  I mean, imagine if we did this, you know, with Obama or somebody else, it'd be called racism, or you know, it's just Ronald Reagan said it best, Sajis.
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  You're only one generation away, you know, before you you lose the whole deal.
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  That's where we are.
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  Yeah, we're like half a generation away.
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  I don't even know if there's a full generation.
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  I I think you know, I hope that uh the Supreme Court looks at it and frankly says Germaning is wrong, period, across the board.
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  Um, and I'll tell you how we got here.
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  We got here because of uh uh what a lot of people may not know about is the permanent appointment act of 1929.
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  Uh where it was uh uh legislation that uh capped the number of voting representatives in the U.S.
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  House to 435.
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  And uh, of course, they did that after they took the 1920 census and uh made a law that it would be permanently uh established that way.
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  Uh and it goes against the constitution, to be honest.
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  That act always went against constitution when I was running for office here.
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  Uh I said that's the first thing I would do is remove that cap.
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  Because what happens once you remove the cap, then that means by the constitution, a smaller number of people uh would have to have a representative.
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  You can't have these blocks, you know, they're controlling everybody.
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  And uh actually that's how the constitution was meant to work, right?
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  As a as our uh uh, you know, um community grew.
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  That you could basically uh you know have representatives for for those specific numbers, and you wouldn't have the people that you have in charge of the various different blocks on both Republican and Democratic side of the house.
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  Now, the special interest doesn't like it because they're gonna have to spend more money on uh the various different uh, you know, um uh representatives out there, they rather have them all be in blocks where they could basically control them.
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  Uh but I think it would go a long ways in destroying the corruption in uh Washington, and that's what I was always uh pushing for.
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  Ways and destroying the corruption in uh Washington, and that's what I was always uh pushing for.
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  I know there was a uh attempt, uh, which was uh House Resolution 4178 and the 119th Congress going back to 2025-2026, it really looked at maybe it'd be reforming this cap.
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  I know there was a uh attempt, uh, which was uh House Resolution 4178 and the 119th Congress going back to 2025, 2026 that really looked at maybe it'd be a reforming discap.
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  My recommendation would be just remove the damn cap at all, period.
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  My recognition would be would be just remove the damn cap at all, period.
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  And if I was the uh uh if I was representing uh the United States uh
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  And if I was the uh uh if I was representing uh the United States uh in front of the uh Supreme Court, I would say Jerry Manding is illegal, has done complete damage to the Constitution, or you need to remove it and you need to remove the cap.
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  Now they may come back and say, Well, the Congress has to do that, uh, because uh a simple majority can uh well how many is it now?
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  Was it half a million people per per uh district?
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  Um it depends on your districts, it could be even more than that.
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  But uh it's too many.
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  Yeah, there's no representation with that.
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  That's too many.
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  No, there isn't.
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  And and people don't understand.
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  I uh you know, I I use the example, and I know since we're talking about I'm sorry, I don't I want to finish this this thought process on this.
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  Uh but uh when when we when I was running for office, um uh and a discussion was well, how is it that the representatives aren't understanding what we're doing?
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  I said, because they're stuck in a system that doesn't function well.
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  I said, if you think about it, um at the time I was running in the 2020 election, right?
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  Um so in November, if I had one by January, before I've even had the chance to turn on my computer or even be sworn in yet, um, before my swearing in, I would go to possibly the farm.
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  Um, and it's uh basically where the leaders of the Republican Democratic Party who are in office in the leadership would tell me here's a committees you're gonna sit on.
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  And if I disagreed with them, uh then they would basically marginalize me in my own party and say, Well, too bad, so sad.
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  Guess what?
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  You're not gonna get a chance to get anything passed uh for the time you're here.
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  Now, prior to all that happening, you know, I would swear in by middle of February before the president delivers his uh State of the Union address.
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  I wouldn't have even known what the hell's going on in Congress.
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  Uh, what am I supposed to do here?
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  How am I supposed to operate?
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  What are the possible agenda requirements because they're still flushing through these things at the uh uh party levels?
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  My opponent uh who would be running against me in the next election would have already met, raise money, and by March of that year, probably put in the first quarter filing for for a race against me in the next election.
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  So then literally I could go between March all the way through where the August uh recess begins, uh trying to push for something to come out of the committee so I could turn around and tell the people that elected me in uh November of 2020 that look I was able to get something passed through Congress.
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  This is a bill that I had you know made promises on.
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  The the one thing that people don't understand, just because something passes through the committee doesn't mean there's finances for it because our fiscal year calendar starts in November, right?
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  So I would have a bill in my hand saying I'm able to achieve something over the next 10 years what we're gonna do, blah, blah, blah, for whatever it is, housing, uh, health care and uh uh agriculture, so and so, but there would be no money dedicated towards that.
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  So literally I would have some piece of paper in my hand that has no money or resources dedicated for me to be able to get it to fruition.
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  Then August is ended.
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  Guess what?
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  Uh, my opponent uh from the other party has already put in uh his uh second quarter of filing, uh September third quarter of filing, and in September I have to start collecting signatures to get on the ballot in Illinois in November with hopefully no challenges to run in a primary where the other party might actually send people to run against me that are actually party hacks uh to defeat me in the primary uh in order to be able to win in a general election the following year.
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  This system is just doesn't function.
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  Uh is designed not to function, unfortunately.
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  Uh the only way the system could function if there was no lobbyists, no special interests, and they had to depend on coming home and getting the nickel and dimes, you know, because everybody's bought.
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  You think about it, you know, it's a good run.
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  You go in there, you get what, 180 something thousand plus all the perks, and you know, four or five, six years, you're worth 10, 20 million dollars.
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  How does that happen?
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  What are you achieving this?
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  It's corruption is the way it is.
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  I mean, look, not to say that even if I had one and have gotten in, that that's not what it is, because people would have been putting money in in account my account to be like, Aaron, we need this help this help.
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  And it's not like I can say don't donate, you know.
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  I can if I want to say stop donating, but if a pack percent, I I might not even know who the hell is donating to my campaign sometimes.
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  That's and money goes in.
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  And uh next thing you know, that money is available.
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  I can't give it back or refund it, then I'm gonna use it.
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  And uh that money, if you lose a race, guess what?
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  You could take it, pay your bills, and then the rest uh sits in your bank account.
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  Oh, yeah, I know I know about that very well when I ran around the house round around the house.
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  I learned that you know, you get all that campaign money, and then uh I think a certain allotment of that, Sarge, you have to go support other candidates.
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  So you get on a plane.
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  Yeah, you and your wife get on a plane, and you say, Well, I'm gonna support Dean over here in Athens, Georgia, you know, and then you spend a four-day week there, you do a little golfing, and while you're there, you stop over to see Jerry in Florida.
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  So you could burn through another couple of million dollars you had left over in your campaign.
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  This is total corruption.
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  The Constitution, as many have stated, the founders, it's made for a moral virtual people.
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  People of virtue, it's not made for what we have.
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  We have gangsters.
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  We have gangsters on the hill.
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  And you know, again, as if you listen to the two mics on uh Monday, uh, we always tell you we're non-syncophan.
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  We don't we don't sign on to the Safe Affair Committee.
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  You know, when Trump we call out Trump, well, we have to call out Trump.
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  You know, we're not on the Kool-Aid committee, we're not on the Sikh Fan committee.
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  Speaking of committees, right?
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  George.
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  Um we're coming down the last couple of minutes.
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  So uh before we wrap up on this political thing, we're gonna maybe why don't we do this on the next segment?
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  Why don't we talk about where we are today in regards to the Strait of Hummus or moves?
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  I'm sorry, just homosexuals.
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  A little joke there.
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  We had no rules for the new year, and now we're gonna have more homoves.
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  Somebody said they're gonna make the Gulf of Somebody said the Gulf of Homo's.
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  I guess he's gonna change it like the Gulf of America, Gulf of Mexico.
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  Going to change it like the Gulf of America, Gulf of Mexico.
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  Who knows?
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  Who knows?
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  No, I mean uh Trump Trump came a little bit of uh you know he he dropped a political bomb in their lap, he called it Gulf of Iran, and then of course, you know, the infighting begins inside of uh Iran, but we'll talk about it on the way back and uh um and uh um I don't know if you've seen that is a video going around for our listeners out there, but a gentleman went to a uh No Kings rally and he just wanted to see if people like even had a clue what they were complaining about, and he asked them, you know, everybody's talking about the stress of hormones.
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  No, I mean uh Trump Trump came a little bit of uh, you know, he he dropped a political bomb in their lap.
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  He called it Gulf of Iran, and then of course, you know, the infighting begins inside of uh Iran, but we'll talk about it on the way back.
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  And uh um and uh um I don't know if you've seen there's a video going around for listeners out there, but a gentleman went to a uh No Kings rally and he just wanted to see if people even had a clue what they were complaining about, and he asked them, you know, everybody.
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  How come nobody's talking about the gaze of hormones?
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  Shouldn't they be talking about them?
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  And then of course, you know, a lady is on the video uh saying, yes, we should uh think about them also.
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  Uh and it goes.
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  I love those videos.
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  The people that do those it reminds me of the old Jay Leno, you know.
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  Yeah, I mean But it's unfortunate, that's the reality of what we're dealing with.
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  So, you know, when we say why we why do we have corruption?
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  Well, when you have uh when you have a Supreme Court justice who who uh goes through uh uh committee and uh you ask her what a woman is and she can't tell you what a woman is.
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  Um okay, then you know that's a civilization in crisis because the civilization doesn't have just basic backgrounds, basic, you know, uh ability to say distinguish between right, wrong, or uh, you know, uh this that uh or be able to agree on things.
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  If if you as a society can't even agree on what a woman is, you're not gonna be able to uh defeat this thing.
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  You have to get to a point where certain truths uh are that's it.
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  This is a truth.
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  There's a woman, there's a male.
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  Let's move to the next stage.
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  And then if you agreed on that, then uh everything else in politics would be much easier.
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  As my cousin Vinny said, two youths or two truths.
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  So I just was speaking with Sargus about uh Iran and the civilization, how old it is and what it is.
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  And Sargis uh has a lot, he has a lot of knowledge in regards to Iran.
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  And I'd like to sorge just to open up a little bit with you guys out there, listeners about Iran.
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  I mean, you know, the beginnings and where they are, and uh he should know because if I'm correct, Sarge, weren't you born in Iran?
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  Yeah, I was born in Iran, actually in uh Urmia or what was called Rizay at that time, uh, which is Northwest of Iran.
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  Um, you know, and at home I spoke Assyrian, which is Aramaic, uh, you know, the language of Christ.
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  uh you know the language of christ and uh schools they taught us Persian and the streets you spoke Turkish Azadi so um uh it's uh is a it is a unique unique nation that has a lot of uh uh different uh uh um ethnicities and groups in there but I always tell everybody when they when they uh talk to me I tell them everything started from Matt Osher right if you go to Genesis uh the borders of the uh uh Assyrian Empire was defined in there before any other nation was ever mentioned in the Bible uh because of the influence that that nation had on the entire region and um um you know for us like in Assyria of course uh Assyria fell in 612 BC um and uh people know that the Assyrian army still fought for three years after that so for three years the army still existed even though city state of Nineveh and um uh Asher were sacked no more was sacked and they fought in various different uh places and um there were three generals Assyrian generals that were told by the king before he of course died in the fall of Nineveh uh and was engulfed in the fire and the uh and the palace uh to be able to set up a resistance so they actually uh moved north uh and were the mountains of Hecate Southern Turkey today is and the other ones linked up with uh what we call the um in Assyrian parse meant uh translates to modern suburbs uh which basically meant it was a part of the empire so they moved into that region linked up with uh allies and uh when uh uh you had the Persian king go in and defeat the Babylonians and Babylonians were the reason why the uh uh Assyrian Empire fell um a lot of people don't know that the majority of his advisors and general officers were actually Assyrians and the reason they pushed the king to go defeat the Babylonians and of course uh the Jews were freed at that time was because of what Babylon had done to the destruction of the Assyrian Empire so all those uh uh groups are kind of linked together and where I was in northwest Iran under the Assyrian Empire the kings used to the Assyrians used to get their supplies for their um uh um minerals uh uh their water supply really coming from northwest Iran into where they are even though you had the tigers and the Euphrates in Iraq and they used to get their uh horses and they used to get their timber from that area so the Assyrian king would always settle uh Assyrian diplomats and Assyrian uh warriors in northwest of what today northwest Iran is uh so the the two are linked together uh across the board always been there um today Iran of course has various different segments of societies a lot of the Persian Persian Iranian part uh left you have a larger segment of Turkish Azadi Kurds uh Balochis uh Arabs that uh are in Iran and the demographic numbers are changing but the bazaar Iran that is controlled by the IRGC um and uh is a network that is 20 million plus network that stretches through the Shanghai Corporation organization led by China that Iran Russia and India are signatorial through uh all the way into Asia into Russia into India uh Africa Europe South America even the United States so that network is um the network that we're dealing with right now and I've had uh uh you know individuals who uh are uh Iranians uh of today saying well you shouldn't be working or negotiating with the Iranian IRGC folks even though we've killed uh the leadership and change at that basically the entire uh you know leadership uh uh level they were working with and I'm like well look if you look at just the state of Israel by itself right Israel as of 2024 numbers you're looking at somewhere um you know in the uh uh close to 10 million maybe you're you're hitting that mark um and these are you know Israeli citizens are from a two-year-old to a 90 year old woman uh Iran has 20 million just in the IRGC network that is multi-age male you know that okay these are not like old people now imagine the one those people all have what maybe a wife a child parents so then the number grows and for Iraq itself the Iraq it took him a decade to get 20 million in their numbers so Iran has just 20 million just in that IRGC network that we have to negotiate with so uh of course we're gonna just go ahead and abandon that network we had to go in there and try to flip it to our side and I think uh for a short period of time and how Trump has approached this thing we've done a pretty good job of it and right now the biggest fight that is uh happening in Iran is an internal fight because they all know that they want to be the one who's gonna make the deal with the United States and they don't want to have the other person to do it because whoever sits at the table and signs that deal guess what that individual is going to be opening up a market that is in the worth of the trillions of dollars and they're gonna have the control and access to that money and what happens that means that they're gonna basically be the ones who are going to be controlling this network that stretches out across all these continents amazing amazing I have I had no knowledge of this Sarge you know but again the let's just go back for a minute you were talking about the Assyrian back in the day you know most people the only thing they know if they read the Bible was Nineveh right and uh and the whale that story but you know it was a great empire at the time and then look what happened to the country which which we allowed to happen am I right or wrong I mean America was behind all of what took place in Syria before you know taking out uh what's his name Assad right well Syria Iraq uh uh Iran you know Assyrians live across all these uh places I mean the first church if you look at the ancient churches armenia right yeah armenia is one of the ancient churches uh church uh is an ancient church and uh the um uh you know Saint Thomas basically established it is in the Bible itself and and this particular church is the one that expanded the concept of Christianity throughout Asia um um into uh uh into India uh from Japan to Tibet to Thailand uh all throughout the Middle East um before of course Arab uh conquest came in and uh and um uh Islam started spreading based on the sword uh into the region so um you know if it wasn't for that uh empire and if uh wasn't for that church uh you wouldn't have even uh the remnants of what we have today uh and I guarantee you Rome probably would not have converted to Christianity it was because of that
• 21:02
  And uh schools they taught us Persian and the streets, you spoke Turkish Azadi.
• 21:07
  So um uh it's uh is uh it is a unique, unique nation that has a lot of uh different uh uh um ethnicities and groups in there.
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  But I always tell everybody when they when they uh talk to me.
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  I tell them everything started from Matt Osher, right?
• 21:26
  If you go through Genesis, uh the borders of the
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  The Middle East.
• 28:01
  Before, of course, the Arab conquest came in and uh and um uh Islam started spreading based on the sword uh into the region.
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  So um, you know, if it wasn't for that uh empire, and if uh wasn't for that church, uh you wouldn't have even uh the remnants of what we have today.
• 28:24
  Uh and I guarantee you Rome probably would not have converted to Christianity.
• 28:29
  It was because of those ancient churches that initially everything was established.
• 28:33
  Um did you go to Armenia?
• 28:36
  Have you been to Armenian and Azerbaijan?
• 28:38
  Uh no, I have not been to Armenia.
• 28:41
  Um I've been asked many times ago, but I just haven't I've had family members who have gone there.
• 28:46
  Um a lot of Assyrians actually during the first genocide of the 20th century, a lot of the Assyrians escaping there.
• 28:53
  I actually have a lot of family members whose last name was changed to an Armenian name after, of course, Armenia was recognized after the uh uh genocide.
• 29:02
  The Assyrians actually lost two-thirds of their people in the first so what was Armenia called before the genocide, it was Armenia, wasn't it?
• 29:11
  Uh no, there is there were uh ancient names to it, but yeah, I mean Armenia is what we settle on under historical context.
• 29:18
  I don't want to get into the details of what you know what would have been called, but uh I actually had a lot of relatives who changed their last name to Armenian to make sure they were not targeted.
• 29:28
  Uh but uh I mean the biggest thing that happened for the root of Christianity was of course the U.S.
• 29:33
  invasion of Iraq.
• 29:34
  Uh I had a friend of mine, um, an Uber driver.
• 29:38
  Uh uh, he's in his 80s, you know.
• 29:41
  I uh almost well, no, I shouldn't age him that much.
• 29:44
  I'll make sure he doesn't get this interview.
• 29:46
  He he's getting close uh to his 80s, and uh I there might be still YouTube videos of him out there.
• 29:52
  I haven't looked for a long time, but he went in uh to the UN uh and he put himself on the cross for three days in front of the UN.
• 30:01
  And when he was interviewed, they said, What are you doing this for?
• 30:04
  He said, if US invades uh Iraq, uh Christianity will die in the Middle East region.
• 30:10
  Guess what?
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  Was he a prophet?
• 30:12
  Of course he was.
• 30:13
  Well, no, he was a common sense guy because he understood how the other side was uh and uh our folks didn't care about any of that stuff.
• 30:21
  You know, we went up with uh Assyrians uh were 2.3 million uh under the uh uh um at that time under Saddam.
• 30:32
  Uh and uh right now they're 0.003 percent of the entire country, uh less than maybe 100,000 plus.
• 30:40
  Well, let's tell the audience truthfully.
• 30:42
  Saddam was not bad for Christians, and I think in his inner circle, he had a lot of Christians working for him, no.
• 30:49
  Yeah, well, so I was about Saddam and about the bad party.
• 30:54
  So if you cross him, he would kill you, even if you're a family member.
• 30:57
  However, with that said, the only ones he could trust were the Christians.
• 31:01
  The problem was when he saw means of dividing the Christians, you have the Catholics who are known as Chaldeans by denomination, but not because under Saddam and how he split them with other Assyrians, he basically made them into they had created themselves as fake um, and I know a lot of them are gonna get me angry.
• 31:20
  I tell him, but it's a fake ethnicity, it doesn't exist.
• 31:22
  The ancient Chaldeans, you're reading the Bible, all the negatives about him, they were in southern areas of Iraq.
• 31:29
  Every Chaldean today has been living in the northern uh parts of uh Iraq, which were in the uh Assyrian villages.
• 31:36
  So uh just the way that Saddam used to divide people was for him, but he didn't target you if you didn't mess with him.
• 31:43
  You know, he could care less as long as uh you're not going against him.
• 31:47
  Now he was stolen, you know, uh at the heart of it.
• 31:49
  You're still a Christian, a kafir, um, and he's uh uh Muslim.
• 31:54
  So you're not gonna take uh high positions in certain areas of the government.
• 31:58
  But the uh one general officer that I met in Iraq, of course, an Assyrian guy, he basically trained all the other uh Iraqi uh uh generals uh under Saddam.
• 32:08
  So you know the Assyrian Christians had a um major impact in the region.
• 32:13
  Everybody wants to kill him, but at the same time, they can't talk to each other, and they know the best way to do it is to get the Assyrians to talk on our behalf.
• 32:21
  So they sent the Christian in to talk on their behalf.
• 32:25
  I had um uh put together uh doctrine.
• 32:28
  Hopefully the uh police will see it again initially had introduced it at the National Uh Security Council and the first Trump administration.
• 32:35
  I don't think you're even gonna ever get a chance to read it to be honest with all the issues he was dealing with.
• 32:40
  But um uh I uh uh sent that uh document out.
• 32:44
  Um and uh I will tell you it was part of what I had put in the House resolution that initially was introduced here to recognize the Assyrian genocide.
• 32:52
  But let me tell you, this is what the the um uh draft copy was put together.
• 32:58
  Uh and this is a paragraph that was literally pulled out by our Congress.
• 33:03
  Um when uh when the document was uh initially gonna be submitted for the resolution.
• 33:09
  So I had it in here as a paragraph says Assyrians have been documented as having underground violent persecutions in modern history at 50 year intervals over the past century, they have suffered mass killings, persecutions and forced deportations from their historical lands in 1915 through 1918, Ottoman genocide, 1922, 1933 Simele massacre, which is a Syrian martyr's day, 1940 to 1945, 1961 through 1974, 1969, the Al-Suraya massacre under the Bat regime, 1975 to 1988, where Saddam burned 248 villages and um 1,000-year-old churches, including Maroodishu Monastery in Dyer, as part of the uh Al Anfal operation, 2006 when sectarian violence in Iraq were more than 2,000 Assyrian Christians were killed or kidnapped.
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  2008 attacks on the Christian mul Christians and Musul, 2010, um the Al-Uh Najat church bombing, 2014 to 2017, the ISIL and ISIS occupations of Khaber River Valley of Syria and the Syrian plain in Iraq and most recently, and of course today, this wasn't added then.
• 34:23
  I added this on the new one, 2025 and 2026 in Syria by the Islamists in uh 2009, Assuran Christians asked for safe haven and the Assyrian plane, but under the pressures from the Iraqi government under Maliki on the Catholic factions of the church uh under Vatican guidance, the US department rejected the uh State Department rejected this agreement.
• 34:46
  All this stuff was removed.
• 34:48
  And you notice that America really never really, when you think about it around the globe, especially in the Middle East, America never gave a gave a crap about Christianity.
• 34:58
  Really?
• 34:58
  No, I mean you wouldn't say Obama said we're not a Christian country, but he was offended, but he wasn't saying that wasn't true.
• 35:00
  Obama said we're not a Christian country, but he was offended, but he wasn't saying that wasn't true.
• 35:06
  Oh no, you know, the uh the uh the southern uh you know Christian might get uh angry about it, but no, we're not.
• 35:06
  Oh no, you know, the uh the uh the southern uh you know Christian might get uh angry about it, but no, we're not.
• 35:13
  I mean, I hate to tell you, even uh the modern uh issue that you deal with constantly, and I have had this issue with uh churches here, especially the evangelical churches.
• 35:13
  I mean, I hate to tell you, even uh the modern uh issue that you deal with constantly, and I have had this issue with uh churches here, especially the evangelical churches.
• 35:24
  I'm like, you do know that the Jerusalem that is supposed to come from heaven is not the same Jerusalem that sits in the state.
• 35:24
  I'm like, you do know that the Jerusalem that is supposed to come from heaven is not the same Jerusalem that sits in the state structure of a socialist initially nation that is today democratic called Israel.
• 35:34
  Right.
• 35:35
  Uh I mean, if you read your own Bible, and then uh I always have to remind him, you know how offensive it is when you go tell a rabbi here, bless this red heifer, so I can sacrifice this so a third temple can be built so Jesus can come back to the city.
• 35:46
  I used to say when I was a priest when I was a back in the day when I was a young priest, I used to say I want to bless that redhead.
• 35:54
  Yeah, I mean no, but some of the stuff they do, and you scratch your head, you're like, Do you people even read your own Bible?
• 36:00
  They don't you know the Bibles.
• 36:04
  Speaking of Bibles, before we go to the break, we got two minutes.
• 36:06
  Did you get that Bible in the mail?
• 36:08
  Yes, it came to me, finally.
• 36:10
  I got it yesterday, actually.
• 36:11
  I was supposed to let you know, but uh, I was hoping you would have gotten to Al, but I'll get it out to him.
• 36:16
  All right, it was signed by the way, too.
• 36:18
  No, I saw it.
• 36:19
  It was wonderful.
• 36:20
  And I know he's struggling with the signature, but I loved it anyway.
• 36:24
  He what with the signature?
• 36:25
  Yeah, because you know, when you get a little bit older, I know the signatures become a little bit uh you know oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:31
  Well, you know, when you get to 92, it's a big number, right?
• 36:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:35
  Well, it was signed, and uh, you know, again, hey, listen.
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• 36:54
  It truly is.
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  No charge.
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  Just get in touch with it.
• 36:58
  It's it's an outstanding Bible.
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  I mean, if you just look at it from uh how it's put together, you know.
• 37:03
  I mean, they did it.
• 37:04
  Yeah, it's nine years in the making.
• 37:06
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• 39:53
  Talking about Armenians, there's a whole bunch of them out in California.
• 39:58
  And uh, you know, let's just say this.
• 40:00
  Most of the Persians, or let's say Iranians, who were in California, they probably never even stepped foot in Iran, right?
• 40:08
  Uh they're probably what are we now?
• 40:10
  Three generations in since Jimmy Carter.
• 40:13
  Yeah, I mean, you get the older ones who left, of course.
• 40:16
  Uh, but I mean, I even I left when I was younger.
• 40:18
  Um, you know, we're I mean, certain things are happening in your life when you're younger, they remain with you.
• 40:24
  But when you're leaving out as a nine-year-old, you know, going back just the different view vision.
• 40:30
  But uh, I've been blessed to be involved constantly in looking into what's happening in the region in Iran because of the work I do, you know.
• 40:38
  But a lot of the folks may have completely mentally changed.
• 40:42
  Why don't you tell them what your organization is while we're on here?
• 40:45
  Tell them who you are, tell them your organization.
• 40:47
  Well, is I'm you know, I'm the head for the near East Center for strategic engagement, and uh I established on September 11 in honor of the uh uh Americans who died or were murdered on our soil, and uh um, you know, and the first responders are still dying because of the FX.
• 41:03
  And uh we've done advisory.
• 41:05
  Um, you know, then the first mission that I picked up was uh basically to advise a Syrian Christians that were fighting against uh ISIL and ISIS at the time in Syria and Iraq.
• 41:16
  And uh, you know, one day hopefully we could uh get the pulp book published.
• 41:21
  I don't think the Pentagon or the three letter agency would allow it to be published because they'd probably say no, it's uh not uh what we want to see out there, and and the reason for that is because it would make the uh make the um make the U.S.
• 41:35
  look, you know.
• 41:37
  It wouldn't paint a good picture of where the U.S.
• 41:40
  is when it came to the Christians of the region, what they were doing fighting on the ground.
• 41:44
  Actually, you know, I I can say this when we actually did our operations, came back and uh uh gave a briefing to the State Department.
• 41:52
  State Department was shocked because they had no clue what we were doing.
• 41:55
  Of course, I was working with uh through SENCCOM and the um um the fusion cell at SENCOM to even do targeting of uh ISIL and ISIS that was fighting against us in uh in all true honesty.
• 42:00
  Fusion cell at SENCOM to even do targeting of uh ISIL and ISIS that was fighting against us in uh in all true honesty.
• 42:09
  Um uh who created ISIS, Sarge?
• 42:09
  Um who created ISIS, Sarge?
• 42:13
  Who created ISIL?
• 42:13
  Who created ISIL?
• 42:14
  Uh everybody had ISIL, everybody had ISIS on the ground.
• 42:14
  Uh everybody had ISIL, everybody had ISIS on the ground.
• 42:17
  It was somebody, something that they all had.
• 42:17
  It was somebody, something that they all had.
• 42:19
  Look, uh the first time I was about to retire, I was at Special Warfare Center School.
• 42:19
  Look, uh the first time I was about to retire, I was at Special Warfare Center School.
• 42:24
  I was leaving um in the parking lot as I'm you know getting ready.
• 42:24
  I was leaving um in the parking lot as I'm you know getting ready.
• 42:28
  I think it was like the third day before I had finished.
• 42:28
  I think it was like the third day before I had to close out everything.
• 42:31
  Uh friend of mine saw me, he's like, Hey, you're going to the uh uh briefing.
• 42:35
  I go, what briefing?
• 42:36
  You know, there's a uh location and downtown faithful.
• 42:39
  Um uh that they were gonna do a briefing uh on um possibility training uh a force of fight in Syria.
• 42:48
  I'm like, uh what?
• 42:51
  I said, What are you talking about?
• 42:52
  They're like, Yeah, that's what they're trying to do.
• 42:55
  And I go, you do know you're gonna be training bad guys.
• 42:57
  Then when I looked into it, the problem is because of our contracting laws are you know, we decided, of course, yeah, we're gonna help one segment of the uh Saudi family, but we're gonna isolate the other segment of the Saudi family.
• 43:10
  So guess what the segment that gets isolated does?
• 43:12
  Picks up the phone, tells everybody, go get yourself free training by the Americans, they're gonna give it to you anyway.
• 43:18
  So we ended up training folks that uh were night there because they cared about our mission set over there just to get the training uh and the money.
• 43:27
  Um, I mean, on the day when uh the Jordanian pilot, for those who remember, was being burned in a uh cage by ISIS in uh is that Jordan or Kuwait?
• 43:38
  That was Jordan or Kuwait.
• 43:39
  It was Jordan, it was Jordanian pilot.
• 43:41
  The uh the Jordanians had opened up their border to allow the Saudis to push uh their own uh weapons that they were given to their ISIS to fight against the other people's ISIS in the region.
• 43:55
  Turkey, you know, Turkey had ISIS there, Turkey is uh, you know, uh was linked to it.
• 44:00
  And uh, you know, I I won't be able to say who, but I know there's a uh individual who's uh now in the church leadership who three days before the attacks took place to clear the Musul uh and all the Assyrian Christian villages, he had received a call from an individual who was uh very high connected uh to the uh Kurdish leadership in northern Iraq, and of course he was an Assyrian Christian, and he said you gotta get your people out of there because there's gonna be an attack.
• 44:32
  What does that mean when that call comes in?
• 44:34
  That means the Kurds knew that there was gonna be an attack against the Assyrian Christians, that they the Turks knew that there was gonna be an attack that was going to come down there, and you know, ISIS was moving uh oil from uh Syria south of the Sinjar line into northern Iraq to the Kurdish Barzanians who were giving it to the Turks who were selling it to the Europeans, you know.
• 44:56
  Uh so uh it's it's just a reality of how these folks are operating there, and unfortunately, uh, you know, and I know that uh Mike will uh attest to it.
• 45:07
  Uh when uh you know you have certain organizations in the U.S.
• 45:12
  will just leave it at that, create something, they're not gonna destroy what they created.
• 45:16
  Uh they're gonna let it eventually die on the vine, or it has to bleed itself out.
• 45:21
  Uh and um for that's what we allowed to happen in Syria.
• 45:25
  Um, you know, it's uh uh they they're dealing with the same thing we had to deal with.
• 45:30
  And the first anarchist article I wrote for the Near East, I talked about how Turkey is using refugees as a means to blackmail Europe and get money from them.
• 45:41
  So um, and look where all those Syrian refugees ended up.
• 45:45
  Look what they did after a decade to Europe and where it is today.
• 45:48
  Uh and keep in mind, uh Turkey is still the head of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was established to bring the caliphate back after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
• 45:58
  Yeah, he just made a speech the other day about Israel being whatever, and Benjamin Manatanyahu being uh whatever he is, and he was screaming big big crowds in the street there in uh Istanbul, you know.
• 46:10
  Well, you could scream it because but uh guess what's gonna happen uh after Iran deal is done.
• 46:15
  Don't be surprised if suddenly Turkey starts having issues.
• 46:18
  Uh you're gonna have to really clean out that region.
• 46:21
  You know, I wrote an article in 2015, who speaks for Islam, who should speak for Islam, and at the time I pointed out how you may not agree with the Pope.
• 46:30
  Uh, you may not like his uh what he says or his uh his theology, you might be different branches of Christianity.
• 46:36
  But when the Pope speaks at the UN, Christian world listens, politicians listen.
• 46:41
  There's no such figure in Islam.
• 46:43
  So we have Iran fighting to be the head of Islam, Turkey fighting to be the head of Islam, Saudi fighting to be the head of Islam, uh, you know, Egypt fighting to be the head of Islam, now Pakistan and it fighting to be the head of Islam, and they have a nuclear bomb um that gives them a little bit more leverage.
• 47:01
  But this is what happens uh when you don't have one head, and you go back to the fight that took place between the uh uh Shia and the Sunni split took place at the Battle of Karbala in 680 AD, where uh you know, Yezit kills uh Hussein, uh son of Ali, uh who's uh in the line tied to uh Prophet Muhammad.
• 47:23
  This is where the break takes place, right?
• 47:25
  And they've been killing each other for thousands of years over that, and then uh turn around and then they're killing each other over uh not just that, but they're killing others who don't agree with their you know ideology uh on fate.
• 47:38
  And uh uh, you know, the the issue for the Christians, especially a certain Christians in the region, they're stuck fighting this fight, and then you go sit in front of the uh State Department like we did, and uh after we showed them that what we had done on the battlefield, and they told us, okay, for you to get weapons and support and money, you're gonna have to go be under the Iraqi army structure of these uh independent militias, and they were gonna slot us under the Hesheshabi, which is an Iranian line militia that were we and Israel are bombing since the war started.
• 48:14
  Wow.
• 48:15
  And I'm like, this is this we're like, no, we're not gonna do that.
• 48:19
  Are you crazy?
• 48:19
  So we're the only ones who decided not to take money from the State Department.
• 48:23
  We're like, no, listen, you guys want to do that?
• 48:25
  God bless you.
• 48:26
  So a lot of other Christian groups, uh, some Assyrian groups were created and put onto that structure.
• 48:32
  And uh, you know, uh the same government who's bombing ISIS today is the same government that gave us advice uh decade ago for us to go be underneath that structure for us to get any type of a support for the Christians in the region, and we're like, forget it, there's no need, we're not gonna do it.
• 48:51
  You know, so in essence, in essence, this this so-called, and I say so-called Christian nation, which we're we we say we are, but we're really not because we're so degenerate and uh you know, there's deviants and miscreants running everywhere, you know, we don't even want to get into the list.
• 49:00
  But we're really not because we're so degenerate and uh you know there's deviants and miscreants running everywhere, you know, we don't even want to get into the list.
• 49:08
  But so this nation has not really supported.
• 49:08
  But so this nation has not really supported, I mean, uh Sarge years ago when I was in Asia in Burma and and the border with Thailand.
• 49:11
  I mean, sorry, yeah, when I was in Asia in Burma and the border with Thailand, uh, when you talked about Christian uh persecution, went in one ear and out the other.
• 49:17
  Uh, when you talked about Christian uh persecution, went in one ear and out the other.
• 49:23
  Forty-eight churches I visited in one year, 48 churches in the Beltway spoke about the Christian.
• 49:23
  48 churches I visited in one year, 48 churches in the Beltway spoke about the Christian persecution of the you know, the hill tribes and the uh minorities, the Koreans, Karenis, and so on, and in one ear and out the other.
• 49:38
  And at the time, there was only one guy down at CBN News in uh Virginia Beach, Gary, who came out there and uh we took care of him.
• 49:47
  We made sure he was well fed and taken care of, and he filmed everything and he saw everything with his own eyes, and we opened up the world view on the Koreans and Korean's, and people don't realize you know, those are the long necks, they got the the brass bracelet around the neck.
• 50:03
  We call them long necks, but you know, the Americans didn't care about that.
• 50:08
  Nobody did.
• 50:09
  No, the church was on.
• 50:10
  I I I was um, you know, uh after what happened in Afghanistan with the debacle, and I realized that uh the next day I was uh when we left all that multi-economic there, uh I was in uh I I flew out to DC to meet Congress uh woman staff and say, hey, we gotta get this stuff out of there.
• 50:32
  Then the other thing I did was I started focusing on Africa because I knew Southern Sudan, the Christian state was gonna start having problems.
• 50:40
  And uh when we realized that there's no support coming from the uh government, uh, you know, I I came back and I saw the uh Sassudinese Christians that are sitting in the Kenyan refugee camps.
• 50:54
  Uh and for their church, there were two churches there, only a hundred dollars Mike a month just to run the basics electricity for everything for the church.
• 51:04
  I took out of my own pocket and gave money, and I also took money from our United Assembly Appeal, which had initially established it to be able to support the Assyrian uh families that whose loved ones were fighting against ISIS in Iraq, and I gave money to them, and I gave it to a jackarenda woman organization in Kenya uh to support them.
• 51:25
  When I wrote to the council of churches, and I didn't want to write to them, but I was being pushed by friends.
• 51:30
  Oh, you gotta write them out.
• 51:31
  Listen to me, there they don't care.
• 51:33
  But I said, Okay, I wrote, got zero dollars support.
• 51:37
  And the same week that they rejected to help, not me, not my father once the three to help literally uh what the Jakarana woman organization is doing there, and also the Sassadinese refugees.
• 51:49
  Uh, they build uh another build out for one of the churches, and uh, of course, the Cappuccino machine, I think at the time they had pill paid uh like $10,000 for the entire so okay, uh, what do you want me to do?
• 52:02
  And then the guy stands on the stage, talks about you know uh what do we have to do with the uh you know coming of the third temple.
• 52:09
  And I'm like, Do you have any clue about uh you ever read your for uh New Testament uh as to where you're supposed to be in this process?
• 52:18
  And uh uh when I was in Iraq, I remember uh when the refugee process started, this was before the Musul clearing operations were actually my my company we wrote the uh uh you know uh operation collective action, which was how to clear Musul, and they took our plan and gave it to a bunch of uh non-Assyrian, a bunch of monkeys to operate, and uh, you know, uh the guys complained, he's like, Well, you know, I mean, uh, I was uh uh, you know, this plan didn't work.
• 52:48
  It's like, yeah, because you're supposed to have infantry here, not freaking damn you and your stupid ass driving a Humvee that Americans gave you and getting it stuck, and I wonder why you're getting chewed out by the uh by ISIS guys.
• 52:59
  But uh when uh uh you know I was there, I remember there was a preacher.
• 53:04
  He's talking to two Kurdish guys, okay, and he's talking about them about the Bible and uh, you know, how um you know it would be wonderful for their church to be able to help sustain these people when they go to the United States, and uh I'm just shrinking my little cappuccino waiting there listening to him, and then he runs upstairs, he's like, I gotta go grab uh uh book.
• 53:26
  I'm gonna make sure I uh let you have it, you know, so you can read it.
• 53:30
  And then uh one of the Kurdish guys tells the other Kurdish guy in their language, like, hey, don't screw this up for me.
• 53:35
  We want to get to America, okay?
• 53:38
  So I realized that I you know started laughing because I realized that the guy has no intention could care less about what this preacher is telling him.
• 53:46
  He's just gonna use a preacher to get the hell out of there so he could come to the United States if he can.
• 53:51
  If the church is willing to sponsor him, God bless him.
• 53:53
  So then when the preacher was done, I didn't break the preacher's heart or any telling me you do know that they're using you.
• 53:58
  I'm like, let it be.
• 53:59
  Who the hell cares?
• 54:00
  It's not my business.
• 54:01
  But I did talk start talking to him and I said, Hey, can I show you something?
• 54:04
  We went outside.
• 54:05
  I I said, Do you know who these people are?
• 54:07
  And these, you know, all these people in the streets selling trinkets like, yeah, these are you know, people over Iraq, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 54:14
  And uh, he gave his perspective on it.
• 54:16
  I said, These are the Christian Assyrians that were kicked out of their homes, five hundred thousand dollars to maybe even close to a million dollar homes that uh they lived in when ISIS attacking cleared a Mosul operation, right?
• 54:32
  It was worth that much money that was how much there were places 500,000.
• 54:36
  And I said, Now the guys over here selling trinkets to survive.
• 54:39
  I said, This is a root of Christianity.
• 54:41
  You know, Jesus spoke Aramaic, he didn't speak English.
• 54:44
  So if it was 500,000, wait, if it was 500,000 Syria, what would it be worth here, Sarge?
• 54:49
  I mean, it would have been worth a lot.
• 54:51
  I mean, these are beautiful houses.
• 54:53
  I mean, not all of them were that, but yeah, they're very deliberate was in the in their area that they were.
• 54:58
  I said, uh, he didn't speak English and he speak uh Kurdish, he didn't speak Russian, he didn't speak Taiwanese, he spoke Assyrian Aramaic.
• 55:06
  And I said, This is the root of Christianity.
• 55:09
  And then uh I had to point out to me.
• 55:10
  I said, Do you know why uh ISIS is attacking the ancient Assyrian cities, destroying the gates of uh Ninwe, the the uh Jonos tomb and other areas, uh the city state of Numrut and Ashur.
• 55:23
  I said, because it knows ISIS, these the so-called savages have enough understanding.
• 55:29
  If I get rid of the root of Christianity, the language that Jesus spoke, because if you say something in Aramaic, it has a complete different meaning than it has in English, even if you say it in Latin, why Latin Mass is so such a danger to some people, has a different meaning than if you say it in English.
• 55:46
  I said they're getting rid of it because they know if the root is dead that the minds will never survive, and it went over his head so badly that he had no clue what I was talking about, then I kind of gave up on the chapel, or I said on the preacher.
• 55:58
  I'm like, Good luck, preacher.
• 55:59
  I hope everything works for your for your uh church, you know.
• 56:00
  For your for your uh for your uh church, you know.
• 56:03
  I I guarantee you you ask him today, that preacher won't be able to tell you how many souls he saved.
• 56:03
  I I guarantee you you ask him today, that preacher won't be able to tell you how many souls he saved because he has no way of accounting for exactly how many souls he saved.
• 56:08
  Because he has no way of accounting for exactly how many souls he saved.
• 56:12
  All right, we're out of time, Sarge.
• 56:12
  All right, we're out of time, Sarge.
• 56:13
  This has been a great show.
• 56:13
  This has been a great show.
• 56:14
  Thank you for coming on and helping me fill in for our our uh fellow colleague Br Brandon.
• 56:14
  Thank you for coming on and helping me fill in for our our uh fellow colleague Brennan.
• 56:20
  And uh I want to thank you, the the listener, for joining us on the mission.
• 56:20
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• 56:25
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• 56:32
  And listen to the music as we go out.
• 56:33
  We'll see you.
• 56:34
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• 56:44
  Thank you.