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✨ UU Crew Sesh ✨ - Exploring the Mabilla Site w/ Shaman · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Universe Unveiled, the podcast where we explore the
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  Speaker 1: mystery so challenge our understanding of history and the universe.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jacqueline and I'm Sarah. Today we have another u
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  Speaker 2: U Crew session. We have all of our friends here
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  Speaker 2: and Shaman Jason Huffman is going to make a presentation. Say,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna go around and let everyone.
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  Speaker 3: What's my name?
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  Speaker 2: No Shaman? Okay, exactly, that's on your birth certificate.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna start with Ricardo. If you want to introduce
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  Speaker 2: yourself where people can find you and all that jazz, please.
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  Speaker 4: Sir, sure my name is and you can find me
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  Speaker 4: at the Tough callar One at X. I'm involved with
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  Speaker 4: the Institute for Natal Philosophy that you also mentioned for
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  Speaker 4: this podcast and you prout for bits and very excited
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  Speaker 4: to listen from Justin's presentation today and good day to
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  Speaker 4: all the participants.
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  Speaker 2: Very good, Tyrone, Tabin, Tyrone.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I am here. Thanks to you, guys. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 6: Everything you can find on me is on rebirthword dot com.
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  Speaker 6: I also have a book that you can find on Amazon,
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  Speaker 6: Journey through the Origins of History. I do enjoy these
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  Speaker 6: conversations and I enjoy talking to each and every one
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  Speaker 6: of you guys, So thank you very much for having
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  Speaker 6: me today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, and cousin Nicholas.
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  Speaker 5: Nicholas said, Nicholas.
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  Speaker 7: Fall It says when pissed the Occult Rejects, thank you
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  Speaker 7: very much for having for having me on to this.
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  Speaker 7: Uh yeah, Nick from the Occult Rejects. And you can
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  Speaker 7: find that a bit Shoot Rumble, Shoot Rumble YouTube and
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  Speaker 7: all major podcasts. Uh yeah, that's about it. Looking forward
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  Speaker 7: to this because I was there, Jason, I had a
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  Speaker 7: good time, and I kind of know what we're gonna
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  Speaker 7: be looking at.
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  Speaker 5: So thanks.
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  Speaker 2: All right, it's for sure going to be interesting. Can't
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  Speaker 2: wait to see you in the woods. And last but
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  Speaker 2: not least Shaman.
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  Speaker 3: And he was barefoot in the woods, wasn't he. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was great stuff. So Jason Huffman, Yeah, you'll know
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  Speaker 3: me screen named Shaman seven eleven on YouTube where my
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  Speaker 3: newest series Anti Duluvian Alabama, where we start looking at
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  Speaker 3: all the rocks and the fun stuff is kind of
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  Speaker 3: what I've been working on there on YouTube and then
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  Speaker 3: on X where I've really been pushing you know, all
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  Speaker 3: of that research but also the Nobilla. It's Shaman's seven
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  Speaker 3: eleven underscore, So I guess we'll jump right into it.
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  Speaker 3: We can start with a congratulations to Jacqueline and Sarah
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  Speaker 3: and then of course myself here thanks to Ricardo, because
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  Speaker 3: now we're all board members of the Institute of the
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  Speaker 3: Natural Philosophy and happy to be here, Yeah, in partnership
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  Speaker 3: and moving forward with this group all around us. So
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  Speaker 3: congratulations everybody. That being said, I guess I will pop
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  Speaker 3: to screen share. Today we're going to explore Mabilla. You know,
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  Speaker 3: this has been a very personal journey for me, a
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  Speaker 3: very spiritual one. That's why you see the screen name
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  Speaker 3: Shaman seven eleven, and that's why what I lead with,
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  Speaker 3: right But you know, today we're really going to focus
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  Speaker 3: on the evidence, but also the picture and the way
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  Speaker 3: I hope the evidence starts to lead us. You know,
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  Speaker 3: everybody knows DeSoto, and we're going to start looking at
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  Speaker 3: a few maps to get intro here. Everybody sort of
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  Speaker 3: knows that story, was taught that story in high school,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody was sort of taught a certain story about
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  Speaker 3: the natives. Right now, as as I've gone through this process,
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  Speaker 3: what I've gotten in touch with is not only the
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  Speaker 3: spiritual aspect of what these native peoples here on this
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  Speaker 3: land we're walking around with, but also the physical evidence
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  Speaker 3: from the mounds, to the artifacts, to the geo engineering
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  Speaker 3: which we're going to look at here today that was
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  Speaker 3: taking place. That really shows that our understanding of the
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  Speaker 3: native capabilities, the way of life, and even the world
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  Speaker 3: as they saw it is grossly sort of underrepresented. So
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  Speaker 3: I hope through this process we really are start to
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  Speaker 3: open our eyes to that right to what was here,
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  Speaker 3: what Chief Tuscaloosa and the natives had here as de
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  Speaker 3: Soto came crumbling and stumbling in because thanks to those diseases,
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  Speaker 3: by the time you know, we came back through here
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  Speaker 3: one hundred or so years later, that civilization was eradicated.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was like Anthony Fauci had got to
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  Speaker 3: go hog wild and had nobody to stand up to him.
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  Speaker 3: You know, just nothing, nothing left. So we just don't
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  Speaker 3: have a glimpse of these people. And part of this
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  Speaker 3: process has put me there on the ground in these creeks,
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  Speaker 3: on these mounds, in this earth, and I'm finding things
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  Speaker 3: that are just pretty incredible. So today we're gonna share.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna start with a lecture that was recorded by
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  Speaker 3: Nick when he came down here to see us. It
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  Speaker 3: is essentially me telling the story of Mobila. So we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna get everybody familiar with what happened and what's going on,
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  Speaker 3: who the main characters were, and then what happened with
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  Speaker 3: DeSoto when he entered Chief Tuscaloosa's territory along the Cruser River.
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  Speaker 3: So with that, I'm gonna click us over to screen share.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna keep our fingers crossed that all goes as
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  Speaker 3: it did in test. I'm gonna remember also share system audio,
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  Speaker 3: and there we go. I'm gonna get you out of
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  Speaker 3: the way, all right, so we can see me. We
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  Speaker 3: can see my screen. Okay, guys, So let's take a
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  Speaker 3: look as we introduce to a couple of maps here,
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  Speaker 3: So the DeSoto Route. Can you guys see this? Is
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  Speaker 3: this large enough?
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  Speaker 8: I can so?
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  Speaker 3: Traditionally this is sort of an accepted version of the
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  Speaker 3: DeSoto Route. Again, all of this, much of it rough,
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  Speaker 3: some of it anchored with evidence, but much of it
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  Speaker 3: based on the DeSoto chronicles right now here. If we
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  Speaker 3: look at this is an official This was a map
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  Speaker 3: a photograph taken of a trail marker for the official
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  Speaker 3: DeSoto trail. Now, what we're going to zoom in and
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  Speaker 3: look at here specifically is where we are on this
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  Speaker 3: generally accepted trail. Right, So the towns we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be talking about in pinpointing once DeSoto entered Chief Tuscaloos's
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  Speaker 3: territory are at a Hatchee, Piaccia and Mobila specifically, to
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  Speaker 3: note how traditionally, when trying to map this based solely
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  Speaker 3: on the chronicles right, you've got, however, many a good
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  Speaker 3: handful like seven or eight versions of this story that
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  Speaker 3: was either written firsthand or related firsthand of people who
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  Speaker 3: survived when they finally made it out down here in Mexico. Here,
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  Speaker 3: Notice the spread right, so where were there? They're nearly
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  Speaker 3: on right. This is the general area. In fact, right
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  Speaker 3: here is where Mobila is at. But this spread right
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  Speaker 3: is what they've really sort of been off on, and
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  Speaker 3: we can pinpoint that before a pinpoint that. Let me now,
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  Speaker 3: this is an example of what happens when you try
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  Speaker 3: to map this route based on the chronicles alone. You
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  Speaker 3: see here we have list of the different various students
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  Speaker 3: who meaning students of the chronicles right, who have gone
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  Speaker 3: through and tried to work out this route. I use
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  Speaker 3: this map to show you how difficult that is. Right,
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  Speaker 3: Just each of these presents a different attempt at trying
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  Speaker 3: to then reverse engineer a map. Right, Okay, that's what happens. Now,
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  Speaker 3: this is the area we're going to be zooming in
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  Speaker 3: on today, really right where this turn happens here right
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  Speaker 3: in through here. Okay, moving on to the map of
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  Speaker 3: the actual area, and then we'll get to the lecture.
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  Speaker 3: So here now Mobilla top left at Hatchie modern day Cusada,
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  Speaker 3: and this feature here I'm going to highlight in a
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  Speaker 3: second as the winged serpent feature. But let's point out
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  Speaker 3: our key features. So at Hatchie after crossing the Cusa
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  Speaker 3: Talapusa Mobila here. Now, this is what's going to shock
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people, is here, say here right, you're
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  Speaker 3: talking ten miles he take I walked in four and
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  Speaker 3: a half hours one night, unprepared Piaccia. Here, we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: talk about forty two one hundred foot bluffs. You can
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  Speaker 3: see these bluffs represented here. I'm gonna show you light
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  Speaker 3: ar of a platform mound which exists right around in
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  Speaker 3: here where this river bends. We're gonna have drone footage
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  Speaker 3: from Nick flying over this and almost losing our drone
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  Speaker 3: because this golf course right here, which now preserves many
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  Speaker 3: of the mounds, as we'll see from lightar, has a
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  Speaker 3: jamming system. So Nick's uh, poor drone got hung there
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  Speaker 3: for it was like twenty minutes to right, so it did.
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  Speaker 3: When that thing came down and landed, go I really
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  Speaker 3: for a second, I've never worked with a drone. It
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  Speaker 3: was like being in a Star Wars movie, and it
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  Speaker 3: was like D two land after it deadly mentioned because
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  Speaker 3: I was sitting there over a showtle the whole time going.
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  Speaker 8: No, well that thing came back.
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  Speaker 3: We're like cheering.
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  Speaker 6: I lost it, throne. I actually lost one of my drones.
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  Speaker 6: I was outside in front yard when popping fireworks with
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  Speaker 6: my kids and I have my drone right above it
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  Speaker 6: so I can record it, and one of them hit
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  Speaker 6: it by accident.
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  Speaker 3: Delibratory. Okay, so we've got let's do this real quick,
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  Speaker 3: Ada Hatchie, Mabela, and then we've got Piacha Now that
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  Speaker 3: is going to put your route once they meet at Adahatchie.
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  Speaker 3: Remember from our map I showed you in the route
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  Speaker 3: they go to Piachia. They mentioned a town on a
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  Speaker 3: peninsula a couple of at least one of the chroniclers
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  Speaker 3: do called Tuscaloosa. So if we're looking for a peninsula
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  Speaker 3: between here and here, we see one here. Now. They
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  Speaker 3: described the river this is the Alabama River, as being
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  Speaker 3: the river that ran by Callousy, which indeed this river,
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  Speaker 3: after snaking all the way up here, meets with the
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  Speaker 3: Cusa and Tallapoosa to form the Alabama River. Now, they
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  Speaker 3: said Ada Hatchie was at the highest navigable point of
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  Speaker 3: the Alabama River, which is right here. Right this area,
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  Speaker 3: Parker Island is the highest navitable area of the Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: So placing Atahatchie here, as I've confirmed with mounds and
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  Speaker 3: all sorts of artifacts, and Cusada is known for its
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  Speaker 3: for its presence, native presence is here. Meet here you
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  Speaker 3: track It takes them two days. You get through various
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  Speaker 3: towns and villages, through all these strange water features to
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  Speaker 3: a peninsula here running with the same river that was
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  Speaker 3: running by Tallasy. They then mentioned crossing a river here.
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  Speaker 3: If you here this appears to be a river, as
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  Speaker 3: nixt droned footage will show you. Right, you cross here
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  Speaker 3: over to Piacia and then you follow Pine Creek which
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  Speaker 3: empties into the Alabama River all the way up to
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  Speaker 3: the area of Mobila where the artifacts, the X tree
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  Speaker 3: and the crescent shaped mound are, all of which we
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  Speaker 3: will look at now light are press it shaped mound.
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  Speaker 3: This is quickly so you have a visual in your head.
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  Speaker 3: That's the creek that Nick and I will be walking
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  Speaker 3: in right here, and this is where it's being eroded.
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  Speaker 3: The construction that's taking place all over here. They've come
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  Speaker 3: and dumped their fill right along through here. Right. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: So this creek has been kicked over, right, and now
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  Speaker 3: as Nick and I's video showcases, this has been eroded.
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  Speaker 3: This used to come, you know, all the way and
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  Speaker 3: then these artifacts are pouring out and washing down the creek, right,
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  Speaker 3: so nothing has been excavated. You know, that's not what
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  Speaker 3: I do, right, I'm picking up in this creek what's
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  Speaker 3: being washed out thanks to construction, right yeah, right, moving on, okay,
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  Speaker 3: so a quick look and then we'll start our video
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  Speaker 3: at the winged Serpent. I have it here in two
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  Speaker 3: different seasons and it's best in fall. Okay, this water feature.
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  Speaker 3: So this feature here, guys, if you look here, you
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  Speaker 3: see what looks like a head right right here. Mouth okay,
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  Speaker 3: down here you see this. This is Goat Island. This
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  Speaker 3: if you picture as a wing, it also looks somewhat
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  Speaker 3: like an asteroid. This is the Alabama River replacing Atahatchie
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  Speaker 3: here right. Okay, Nope, something about this. When you zoom
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  Speaker 3: in you see these lines all right, this is an
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  Speaker 3: engineered swamp. I have video of being on the ground
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  Speaker 3: here in these rows you can jump between them. It's
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  Speaker 3: all old growth Cyprus. It's swamp. You can't hardly get
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  Speaker 3: into it, right, Definitely geo engineered, which is easily illustrated
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  Speaker 3: by looking back over here this map. Now, this is
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  Speaker 3: that same area I just showed you, and you will
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  Speaker 3: notice Berry Swamp right here takes this ninety degree turn
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  Speaker 3: and then is guided off over into these swamps with
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  Speaker 3: all these rows. So when you look you zoom in
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  Speaker 3: on your satellite, you can see that this creek is
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  Speaker 3: used to fill all of these rows to make permanent swamp.
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  Speaker 3: This is a geo engineered feature, right as I can
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  Speaker 3: prove of light art, and these features will explore later.
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  Speaker 3: They go all along with these waterways. You can use
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  Speaker 3: light art to document this extremely odd geoengineering using mounds
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  Speaker 3: and whatnot and movement of creeks to get your effect.
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  Speaker 3: All right, and now I'm getting ahead of myself and
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  Speaker 3: let's start this twenty minute video and see where we
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  Speaker 3: end up. But I just wanted everyone to have that
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  Speaker 3: in their heads.
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  Speaker 8: I don't want to waste more time.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, No, your gogory of Mobila to what King serpent
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  Speaker 3: nick where these two people met the def where they
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  Speaker 3: crossed the Alabama already seeing if you've paid attention to
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  Speaker 3: the traditional story and the hunt that has been going
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  Speaker 3: on for Mobila to nail down the DeSoto route, is
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  Speaker 3: that these towns are close to each other at all? Right?
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  Speaker 3: How is everybody on audio sounds you guys, We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: let the story play. I may interrupt, but feel free
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  Speaker 3: if you have questions to pauls and we'll go from there. Enjoy.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Sneck for this footage of a Hatchie. Where it
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  Speaker 3: sits is as the crow flies nine and a half
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  Speaker 3: miles to Mobilla.
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  Speaker 8: What Tuscaloosa did was take this.
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  Speaker 3: Man on a journey all the way down, tricked him,
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  Speaker 3: made him think he crossed a river. But it's a
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  Speaker 3: fake part of the river that bleeds up into a
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  Speaker 3: creek and a lake over to the forty foot cliffs
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  Speaker 3: of Piaccia where they rested, and then march right up
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  Speaker 3: to Mobilla Mobilla, and ada, hatchie, you can make on foot.
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  Speaker 8: I did it unprepared in four and a half hours.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, how quickly could they have done it? Trying
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  Speaker 3: to be fancy?
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  Speaker 8: That's how much.
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  Speaker 3: He tripped and laid out a plan to ensnare de Soto,
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  Speaker 3: beginning with sending his son to me the de Soto
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  Speaker 3: expedition before they left Kusa's territory. The way the chroniclers
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  Speaker 3: all agree it happened is Tuscaloosa's son comes in.
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  Speaker 8: He is already reportedly of giant stature.
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  Speaker 3: We say giant stature because he is described as a
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  Speaker 3: foot roughly over every other spaniard there, and he is
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  Speaker 3: well proportioned and handsome, to steal the chronicler's words, right, giant.
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  Speaker 3: He comes to De Soto and he says all the
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  Speaker 3: fine words indicating my father can't wait to serve you.
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  Speaker 8: But before you cross, there are two roads.
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  Speaker 3: So from the chroniclers, the build of Tuscaloosa was like
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  Speaker 3: that of his son, for he towered over all the
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  Speaker 3: others by more than half of Vara Avara is roughly
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  Speaker 3: a yard three feet and appeared to be a giant
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  Speaker 3: or was one. The rest of his body and his
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  Speaker 3: face were in proportion to his height. His countenance was
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  Speaker 3: handsome and habitually wore a severe expression that his aspect
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  Speaker 3: showed well the ferocity and the nobility of his spirit.
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  Speaker 3: His shoulders corresponded to his stature. His waist was a
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  Speaker 3: little more than two terracellas around. His arms and legs
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  Speaker 3: were straight, well set, and proportionate to his body. In short,
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  Speaker 3: he was the tallest Indian of the finest figure that
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  Speaker 3: these Castilians saw in all their travels through La Florida.
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  Speaker 3: There are two roads that lead to where my father waits.
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  Speaker 3: Please send your men down, one back the other Jews,
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  Speaker 3: which is safest and most comfortable for you.
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  Speaker 8: Well, De Soto sort of balks.
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  Speaker 3: He's encountered nothing but natives that want to rarely kiss
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  Speaker 3: his ass.
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  Speaker 8: Over Incus's territory.
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  Speaker 3: They were using him to fight battles, you know, little
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  Speaker 3: territorial squabbles they had.
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  Speaker 8: So he had been in peace, right, that's his mindset.
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  Speaker 3: When this big noble giant comes and says, my father
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  Speaker 3: wants you to feel comfortable and feel safe. But now
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  Speaker 3: in hindsight we can see what Tuscaloosa and why he
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  Speaker 3: sent his son on this important task, was to make
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  Speaker 3: sure De Soto trusted them to lead the rest.
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  Speaker 8: Of the way.
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  Speaker 3: He was at ease with them, because now that we
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  Speaker 3: know Adahatchie and Nobela were so close, we see how
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  Speaker 3: much Tuscalusa had at stake. They were everywhere around here,
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  Speaker 3: absolutely everywhere.
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  Speaker 8: This place was huge.
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  Speaker 3: He had his territory on the line, so he needed
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  Speaker 3: to Sodo to trust him.
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  Speaker 8: So De Soto listened. He sent the man down, he
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  Speaker 8: sent the man.
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  Speaker 3: Back, and they picked the road and they entered Tuscaloosa's territory.
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  Speaker 8: The meeting happened over here at Ada Hatchie.
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  Speaker 3: It says Tuscaloosa was up on a mound, covered on
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  Speaker 3: a small seat, with roughly one hundred of his nobles
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  Speaker 3: all around him, flumed to the hilt, painted calm. Said
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  Speaker 3: he had a banner behind him. All of the chronicles agreed.
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  Speaker 3: The Soto said he had not encountered banners, war banners
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  Speaker 3: until he got here, painted yellow in blue on deer skin. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the Soto and his six to nine hundred men, three
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty horses, various pigs, and all of the
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  Speaker 3: other attendants and men, from blacksmiths to clerics, to hunters
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  Speaker 3: to mappers. They come walking into this town parade fashion horses.
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  Speaker 3: These natives had never seen horses. It would be much
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  Speaker 3: like a UFO landing right here today, Nick, and you
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  Speaker 3: and I doing what Tuscaloosa did. He didn't move, he
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  Speaker 3: didn't even look at him. Armored men, weapons, banners, horses,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't even acknowledge them. From the chronicles. Near Tuscaloosa
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: was a standard bearer carrying a large banner made of
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: yellow deer skin with three blue bars dividing it from
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: one side to the other. It was the same size
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: and shape as the standard the companies of Cavalry and
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Spain would use. This was a new thing for the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Spaniards to see military insignia. For up to that time
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: they had not seen a standard, or a batter banner
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: or a geddon.
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: Until de Soto came in.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: De Soto came in, One chronicle says Tuscaloosa stayed seated
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: and waited for de Soto to come. One chronicle says
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: this is where Tuscalusa stood.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: And they meet at each other. They exchanged words. We'll
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: keep it short.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Basically, we'll describe what de Soto had done the whole
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: time his mo and what he does here. He would
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: take the chiefs captive by force when he entered their territory,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Demand slaves, burden bearers to carry everything for his men,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Demand sex slaves to gratify the needs.
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: And requirements of his men.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: And then they would take all of the corn camp
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: for twenty days, establish dominance, kidnapped the chief march through
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: the rest of the territory, rents, repeat.
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: When they got to a new territory.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: So here they are in this town with this giant man,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: they lay this on it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: They say, we need burden.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Slaves, we need sex slaves. He says, not here, he says,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: We're near to my main town, right. I want to
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: protect this shit. I've got a satellite town, Mabila. I'll
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: take you there, and there you will have your sex
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: slaves and your slaves. So too agrees they had to
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: find a horse to put this giant man on, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: they can't find a horse.
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: All the chronicles agree.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: They cannot find a horse to bear his weight until
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: they find the largest pack you know, animal. They come
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: and it can stand the weight of the man, there's
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: still a problem because his feet are touching the ground,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: that his feet barely able to clear the ground. Describe
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: De Soto Desto. Chroniclers described Tuscaloosa as eyes like oxen,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: a foot and a half to two feet above every
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: other Spaniard, nearly a foot above every other native, well
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: proportioned and handsome, more so than any other native they
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: had encountered into this time, and they said that about
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: all the people of this area and Tuscaloosa. In fact,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: we have a wife that was kidnapped from Mobila, and
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: when she went down to Peru.
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: I believe it was.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: From the chronicles. When the governor and Tuscaloosa entered Mobila,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the natives came out to receive them with dances and ceremonies,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: so they were so taken by them. When the entertainment ended,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: another dance took place, performed marvelously by beautiful women. Because
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: as I have said, those Indians are very well favored,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and the women so much so that afterward, when we
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: left the country and went to Mexico, Governor Morcas Morsaco
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Morcasso took an Indian from this province of Mobila, who
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: was very handsome and a graceful woman. She could compare
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: in beauty with the most elegant from Spain who were
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: in all of Mexico. And thus, because of her extreme beauty,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: those ladies in Mexico sent to beg the governor to
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: send her because they wished Zide to see her. He
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: did so gladly, because it pleased him that they should
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: envy her stolen bride. All of the wives of the
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: captain and the kidnapped would demand she was sent to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: them so they could marvel over how charming, right, how
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: well put together, and how beautiful she was. And then
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: you have this giant chief of these noble, charming, beautiful people.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Many of the descriptions in the DeSoto Chronicles, when they're
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: speaking on the encounters with these people, they marvel over
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: how well they conducted themselves, how they listened, how they
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: took every point the Spanish had to make, conferred, returned,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: and spoke more clearly, they said, than any of the
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: finest diplomats or court members in Europe. They also said,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: when they were at the Temple of Copa Cheque, that
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: what they found there would rival even the Empire of Rome.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: So Ricardo. That's and everyone sorry, that's Vince Barrows is
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: doing the work with the Episca figurines, and that ties
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: into this story. The copa check way, that's what they're
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: talking about here. They marveled over what they found here,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: and they marveled over this giant man they had now
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: kidnapped to so Tuscaloosa, obviously having exhibited to us here
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: now that this plan was in place, takes Soto and
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: his men Oscaloosa on the peninsula crosses the river. There
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: are forty foot bluffs on the other side, they say,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: there's Piachia.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: Now, I watched archaeologist Nick.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: They did a YouTube video where many years ago they
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: all got on a party boat and they went.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: Up and down the Alabama River. They were looking for
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: forty foot.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Bluffs and they say in that video they could not
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: find a suitable location. Well, I'm gonna take you to
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: those forty foot cliffs and we're gonna stand on the river,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna ask the.
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: Same question I asked, how did they not see this place?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, with the blid arm of the platform mounds and
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the golf course which is now you know, preserving all
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: of these mountains Yachia.
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: So they crossed the.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: River there, and right there at this location, the river
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: as wide as it is.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: He's feed in from the north. That's a trick.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: The river doesn't continue wailing up, as our drone can
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: hopefully show, and it's turned small into a creek.
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: You see.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So this whole time Soto had in him thinking thus loose,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: had the Sodo thinking.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: That he had left that, you know, that territory completely.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: What all he did was knut a little leg to
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: come north, almost almost parallel, without a hat.
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: It was a brilliant, brilliant plan.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Now, Tuska, the chronicles tell us when they arrived at Mobila,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the land had been cleared, meaning all of the brush
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: was being pulled up by the root, flattened, ready for battle.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: They described Mobila as containing up to eighty houses. What
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: do they mean by a house, You're talking native long houses,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: essentially one large room, a few little compartments broken off. Now,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: the chronicles described these houses as being able to contain
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: six hundred the smaller ones, one thy to twelve hundred
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: the larger ones. They described this city as just that
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: the few horses that are able to go inside. They
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: say the reason they couldn't take the horses in is
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: they could not easily navigate the city streets and hints
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: were prey to the arrows of the native. This was
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: a big place. The fortifications, the walls they described were huge.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: They described ramparts that could hold eight men every twenty
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: feet or so along this massive clay wall. This was
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: a city, a fortified city. Tusked de Soto and his men.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: They were comfortable. I already described they'd encountered so much
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: behavior from the natives, just kissing their ass, that that's
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: what they were expecting.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: Here they kidnapped another cheek. So when they load up.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: To head to Mobila, de Soto heads on ahead, maybe
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: a hundred men, it says, maybe a hundred horses, but
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: also all of the slaves, all of the burden barriers, bears,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: and they carried everything that army had with it. Says
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: many of the soldiers were not even wearing their arms,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: their armor or their arms.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: They wanted to.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Dally along this beautiful, beautiful countryside, hunting for squirrel, rabbit,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: drinking from the creeks. So they stayed behind De Soto
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: in the front vanguard, and all of their stuff. Once
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: inside Tuscaloosa, basically removes himself from De Soto. He excuses himself,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: these two men see through each other somewhat. They definitely
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: don't trust each other. That when he arrives, not only
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: is the land cleared, but he has reports that these
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: houses are stuffed to the gills with soldiers and weapons.
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: The guy that told him that asked him, you know, hey,
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: let's stay out in the field.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: The Soda is so fucking bold, so full of his ability,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: as he said to lance the natives from his horse.
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: Favorite fucking pastime of this, dudes. Okay, now his men
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: have told him, Look, they've cleared the soil. These houses.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: They sent women out when they first arrived, right, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: you've already heard how beautiful these women are. They sent
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: the women out in the dancing, and the soldiers are
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: just you know, paying attention to that shit.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Well, he's got a spy that comes and tells him,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: guess what, the houses are filled with men and weapons.
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: Dude, come out of the field. The Soda says, I'm
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: sick of sleep sleeping in the field. I'm sick of it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: I'm all sleep in here. See how full of himself
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: he is.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Now Tuscaloosa removes himself, goes to another house where all
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: of his men around, and according to to I guess info,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: they got torturing. After the battle, there was a discussion,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: do we go ahead and take these men now, this
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: hundred that are in here, and then prepare for the
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: ones that are coming, or is it more honorable to wait?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Turns out it didn't matter. There supposedly was a back
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and forth. I don't know how much of that was
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: spies feeding information, you know, to to Soto, just to
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: satiate his what I'm sure was rage at what had happened.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Point being, Tuscalooser removes himself. Comes dinner time. De Soto
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: demands and has been always demanding, that these chiefs eat
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: with him. So he's there at the table. He sends
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: a guy. He says, go get Tuscaloos. Guy anael the door.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: One of the natives answers he asked for Tuscalus. He says, no,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: it's not coming out. By the way, who the fuck
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: are you to be coming here? And using my Chiese
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: names without all the proper titles. Shull I say door
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: three times? This happens right three times.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: Picture De Soto there waiting table in front of him.
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: Out here in the wild.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: He knows there's fucking men in every house, and he's
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: demanding the chief come here. That's the scene after the
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: third time. The Soto's punk ass tells this guy go
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: ask another.
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: One.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Guy looks out and he sees a native walking. He
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: grabs a native and he says, hey, go tell your
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: fucking chief to get his ass in here.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: Food's cold, right. The guy basically shirts again.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: He gets the same response, the insolence, not only do
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I not respond to you, but for you to put
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: my chief's name in your mouth. Write same story, long
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: story short. That native gets cut wide open right there
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: on the spot, down the back. One says down the front,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: the other says, either way, he's cut wide oak, all right.
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: At that point, all of these men that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Are some chronicles say cut wide open. Some chronicles, oh,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: that echoes terrible, never mind. Some say he lost an
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: arm cut. And these houses that are waiting on this
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: rush arrows flying men out of the houses. Photo everybody
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: in just a fucking field of men and flint arrows
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: essentially pushed out the door. This town, it says, had
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: two gates, one east, one west, only two ways in,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: so there's a soto.
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: He gets out. One of the chroniclers say that when
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: he took his stick he had like three cloaks on.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: When he took his cloak off, he had thirty something
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: arrows in him, depending on the chronicler, depends on the injury.
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: But supposedly with the barely with his life, he gets
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: out that door. A couple of things happen. As soon
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: as he's out that door.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: There's still a priest and two other people trapped inside
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: that are part of his expedition. Everybody else is still
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: fucking lollygaggon. Right, he's got to get a horse. He
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: gets on his horse. Now there's confusion. Where are these slaves,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: where are these burden bears? And where is all this stuff? Well,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: all these natives are chained. They're chained right by the door.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: They didn't go in the door, and all of the
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: belongings of the Desto expedition where they're with them. So
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: in this confusion, while Desto is sorting out getting a horse,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: wondering where the fuck the rest of his fellows are,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the natives grab those slaves and they grab all that
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: stuff and they put inside the walls. They barricade the walls,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: they cut the chains off the slaves. Slaves start fighting
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: with them. Meanwhile, all of this stuff is getting dispersed
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: taken into the houses. There are stories of natives on
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: the walls playing the Spanish war drums, showing them their.
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: Weapons, just making fun of them, going we got all
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: your shit.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: The stuff then gets put in these houses, these eighty
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: large houses, with all of these men and these weapons.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Soto sees all this, He knows all this by now
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: he's got his men out here. They start showing up.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: He gets his horses. What does he order them to do?
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: He orders the men on the horses, because they were
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: the only ones that still had on their armor. Okay,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: all the other armors inside. He orders them to get
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: off the horses, go take the door. So they do,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: they go take the door. Everybody's inside. The chronicles then
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: tell us that they try to take the horses in,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: but realize that in this city they can't. They can't
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: navigate the streets with these horses because these houses are
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: full of assailants.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: So Soto, in his rage, I'm sure at this point,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: in his confusion and understanding, the trap had gotten him
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: and in his pride orders his men to take the
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: town and burn it, because, as the chroniclers say, the
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: injury that was waiting them in that town was far
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: worse than losing whatever they.
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: Had inside those houses. So they do it. They take
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: the town numbers.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: What that means is they realized that they could not
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: get their horses in there. They could not properly use
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: their advantage as they had heretofore in this town. They
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: were outnumbered, and everybody was well armed, and they knew
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: how strong and intense they were, so this was their
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: only option. Very depending on chroniclers, but thousands of natives
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: slaughtered thousands, roughly twenty of De Soto's men.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: Right there was a beaver pond a creek near the site.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: I can take you.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: We'll go to it this afternoon, Nick, right near the
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: ex marker tree. They say the battle lasted nine hours,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: and they say the men would go to this creek
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: because they had to refresh themselves and wash the blood
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: off from slaughtering these thousands of natives, so much so
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: that the whole creek was red with blood right still
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: there today.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: They slaughtered them. They used the horses, they used everything.
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: The natives put on a good show.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I think if you want to hear a story about
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: what was on display, not only you know, with this
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: plan a Sooto put in place, but the native bravery.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: You look to the end of the battle, they've basically
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: eradicated all the men.
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: The Spanish invaders. What was left was the women, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: they were up against part of.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: This giant all feet thick, it's like nine feet to number,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: you know, unbelievable thick. That's important. They get all the
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: women up against this wall. They start approaching the women,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: and naturally the women sort of take a defensive posture,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: and they expect the women to be surrendering, but instead
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: the women attack. And what the chroniclers say about this
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: encounter with the women was that they were harder to
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: put down than the men.
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: And the stories about the men blew to Soto's mind.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: When you hear how far these flint arrows went, all
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: the way through a horse, all the way through the armor,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: and clean out the other side, De Soto would have
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: them cut open study. He couldn't believe the strength and
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: the displays of power you'd see. So for them to
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: say that the women were harder to take down you
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: understand that these women saw the town of fire, saw
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: the men dead, and they had life no more, and
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: their bodies were the weapons.
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: They said.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: They fought without concern, no weapons, just fucking everything they had.
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: So the Spanish just got to put down the women.
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: There's a Native boy up on the wall, last one left.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: So the Spanish see this, as they say in the
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: chronicles bravery, they don't want to kill the kid.
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: Nice of him. They just killed everything he'd known, burned it,
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: but they didn't want to kill the kid.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: The kid looses his last arrow, sees them encroaching, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: he breaks his bow apart, and he takes the string
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: of the bow. He ties it around his neck. And
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: there's a tree they say, crowing out of the wall
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: of the town, and he strings himself up around that
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: tree and he jumps off, hangs himself. Tuscaloosa got away
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: to the north. Now, he didn't escape. In fact, the
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: stories that every single person they asked afterwards told was
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: that they had to force him to leave over and
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: over and over again. But they got him and a
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: few men north that way. That whatever happened here today,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: there was still a leader in place. The sun, they
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: say died there. Now this burial mound, Nick, we're gonna
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: go look at this crescent burial mound with this artifact.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I'll show you over there on the table marks what
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I believe is the burial mound of Chief Toscaloosa's son.
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: Place just north of this X marker tree.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: When you see the way the creek thanks to the construction,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: has been altered and it's washing out the back of
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: this crescent shape burial mound, you see this artifact washing
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: out that represents this mound, this big X man marker tree.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: It's definitely a burial mound and it's definitely a memorial
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: of Mobila, something they did after the battle. Today, there's
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: a neighborhood being built as we speak, having been built
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: for the past ten or fifteen years, throwing up mansions,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: you know, Mick, mansions is the term clearing what are mounds? Nick,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I'll take you and show you it's fucking moundy territory
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: and pushing all of this metal that was in all
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: of these houses from this nine hundred to eleven hundred
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: man squadron who had everything needed. The chroniclers describe it
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: as being the best outfitted expedition to ever set foot
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: in the New World. Hum Now every material possession that
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: that expedition had burned inside of these eighty longhouses, metal melted,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: the rocks that it was stuck on, stuck to it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: The carbon from the wood inside the blade is still inside.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: And these developers knowingly or unknowingly clearing this land, pushing
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: all of this into this creek. So that when Jason Huffman,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: also known as Shaman seven eleven here goes down there
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: practicing these shamanic connections because his life is going through
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: the fucking ringer, he starts finding these artifacts in this
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: metal and all the power that was in this place
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: where this atrocity took place. But more so than the atrocity,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: And what we learn by now having mapped this stuff
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: out is the genius plan that Tuscaloosa put in place.
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: And he stopped him. He stopped the soda. What do
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: I mean by that?
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: After the battle, De Soto had a six day journey
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: to certain resupply in the Gulf of Mexico, certain resupply
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: fucking waiting.
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: Now he's sitting here thirty days.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: They sit here on this land, says, they go around
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: killing and burning everything.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: No questions. If it breathes, it's dead. If it stands,
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: it's burned.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Now Soto, all the pearls, everything he had burned, he
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: was empty handed. And when he went back and found
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: out a hatchie, because it burned. When he found out
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: a hatchie, he knew what TuS Beloosa had done to him.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: So he sat and he bubbled in his rage. And
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: they said they used the bodies of the natives. They
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: were cutting them open for the fat to tend to
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: their own wounds. Just death all around, natives moaning and screaming.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: When they came across them, boom dead. They wanted to
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: know they could rest, and they dead for thirty days.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Then de Soto made a faithful decision. He had already
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: heard Tuscalusa went north. He decided to go north. What
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: led him to that, Well, certainly if he got to resupply,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: his men were gonna say, fuck it, mutiny, they're heading
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: back home.
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Sure, that played it, probably a part in it, But
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I think the madness that overtook him in his time here,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: in his slaughtering these natives, burning everything they had, and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: realizing that this man Tuscalosa had done this to him,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: and he was gonna chase him, and he did to
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: his death, died over on the Mississippi River. They had
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: to they had to weigh his body down and sink
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: it in the river so that they knew the natives
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: couldn't find it. Because of the horrors that that man
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: had brought upon this country, God's country. These people that
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: lived in connection with spirit and with nature lived in
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: ways today as we can showcase with some of these
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: mounds and some of these artifacts that we are just
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: beginning to comprehend today, and we see it finally illustrated
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: here and when we learn precisely what Tuscaloosa did to
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: overcome De Soto and send that devil to his ruin
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: on the Mississippi River. By the way, Nick, last time
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I went over the Mississippi River, I was heading up
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: to Dallas. I took some of De Soto shit with me,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: and as I'm over the river, I throw it off
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: into it said there's your shit back and.
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: Wherever you are Hernando hook you, I guess Tuscaloosa wan
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: that plan put place one.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to look at some of these artifacts time, dude,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: you go to keep talking, Yo, that ship was deep.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: He did throw that off the bridge too, because he
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: sent me a video of it.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I saw that was that was deep. That was contemplated
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: it a few times, and I always traveled with with
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: a little but but this last time, as it happened, Uh,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: the conditions were perfect. There was no traffic, you know,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: there was nothing on the river, and so I took advantage.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Here's your ship back.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: It's funny that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: Because I went to I think it was either Fort
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: Mcallisto or Fort More's here in Georgia, and they had
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: a little snippet about him too in there.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, most definitely a few things we mentioned just
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: to show you before we break loose into whatever. Let
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: me see if you guys can see my ex feed.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Is this on your screens? Yep? Okay, cool, yep, yep,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I can see it. Okay. So I mentioned a clay
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: mound with an artifact. This is that artifact here with
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: the representation of the mound in the middle. This is
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: the crescent mound. I already showed you right that it
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: represents with the creek washing out the back of it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: So you have visuals on both of these. Now. Now
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: at this point I have video of Nick and I
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: going here and looking at this. We could do that next.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I also have video of Nick and I looking at
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: the artifact table and sort of just dissecting and showing
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: those and some good high depth. So after that that
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: twenty five minutes sits still I'm gonna sort of see
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: which way you guys want to go. Well, here, let
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: me show you. Let's go ahead show you this. So
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: we did accent the earthworks right that we can barely comprehend.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Now this mound shows that feature. Because if you see
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: this creek, look over here on this you see this
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: lion coming in. Okay, now that represents over here this waterway. Now,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: when all of this floods, as Nick and I showed,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: this water comes into this bowl right and fills it in,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: they're showing they can use the water flow to effect,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: just as we saw over here on this wing serpent
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: where they use the water flow to effect to create
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: this swamp. This is also evident around Mortar Creek. So
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I have several examples just real quick to show you
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: this earthwork movement. So if I look at the USGS
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: map here, okay, I have all of these waterways, I
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: see the creek. This is Mortar Creek, and I have
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: what are marked as ponds. They look like lakes. Well,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you that when you go into
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: these it is a swamp. Right, it is a swamp that,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: as you can see on light are here lit. An
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: image for you is made up of these roads right now.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: You cannot get in here, guys, unless you're a crazy
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: tall guy on a mission to trace what these natives
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: were doing. This is snake infested, tall cypress tree things
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: falling down and in between these rows is just it's swamp.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, you either jump over it or you're good
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: with three feet of snaky water. Right. Okay, so this
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: is not modern engineering, right, this is native engineering, which
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: you can see on scale. Now here I show you
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: the whole thing. So what looked like a swamp. I
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: want you to see what they've done with the creeks. Okay,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: So here comes this creek flowing in Mortar Creek. You
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: look at that map, you saw what looked like a
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: lake next to it. Right, it's this geo engineered swamp
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: that has even been flooded a little more so much
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: of these ridges are now you know, under underwater. You
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: can see the deep part right, here right, So you're
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: you're seeing geoengineering swamp that took place a long time ago,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: as verified by my video of going in here. This
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: exhibits itself all over this area. When we look back
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: at our main map here right, look over here. Now
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: I can pull up light ar and I don't want
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: to take up too much of our time, but if
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: you zoom in here, you can even on straight regular map,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: see the land the ridges right now again, go in here,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: and this is like old gross swamp and when you
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: look at light ar, these ridges are the same. Right now,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I'm not the expert. I'm the guy on the ground
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: that's been looking at the map and jumping in there
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: and seeing what the heck is this? Right, So let
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: me just put that out there for you. That's how
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I'm reporting. I've gone in the ground and I've seen
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: that what I found on the map here right, I'm
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: looking at it and I'm going, wow, that looks like
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: the wing of a serpent or a space thing. Who
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: made that island? I've got a video going to goat
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: island on my X speed right tour this right, but
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: you zoom in here and you go what are these rows? Why?
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: And then you jump in because you have been following
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: this creek the whole time here, and you realize that
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: this creek has been diverted. These two merge. As soon
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: as they merge, and you've got water flow. What happens.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: It's diverted to a ninety and you get Berry Swamp
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: with a lake right where the eye should go right,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: and you get the winged serpent. Okay, now, guys, should
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: I pull up video of the artifact table with Nick
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: or should we venture to the field and look at
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: video of this mound?
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: Hey, let's look at the field at the mount, because
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: I got like fifteen more minutes before I have at
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: least I want to see that mound footage ten four.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, So that's woods and mounds. That's one video, and
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: we can fast forward through that stuff to where we Yes,
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: let's look at the tree. So we're standing at what
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I often call the southern end of the Mobilla complex, right,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: So you've got the dune branch here flowing in where
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: it meets the Pine Creek branch, which is where all
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: the metal is flowing in from where the construction in
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: the neighborhood has pushed it into this branch's this branch.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: So here were these two meets Nick. The burial mound,
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: the Crescent burial mound. We didn't bring that peace with us.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: I wanted to bring it with us. Is directly north
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: of here. So I took myself one day again to
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: show you how I was learning these shamanic exploration tools.
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: I went from here to that mound right.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Was from there's a tree.
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: That's the philosophy, he said.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: It looks kind of like a man because in that
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: nobule you know a little bit, but what we definitively
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: do have so quickly, this is one tree. I'm just
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: going to show you the visual and skip to the
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: mound that has has been worked into this cross or
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: which Nick noted on the way out. It kind of
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: looks like an orangutan face in here, and this leg
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: looks like it's bending. Now I'll take a second, just
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: let you see this tree.
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: And one tree if I can move these ford one tree.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Split into two a foot and a half two feet up.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Those two portions were then wrapped back around each other.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: As you can well see over here, you can see
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: the decision, the whole Yeah, coming back, I got a
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: full place, Yeah, yeah, the super takes to the car
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: and walk up a strip of land to see, Yeah,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: there's a frog. So now we'll just skip ahead. Guys,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what we're gonna do. Since our time
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: is quick. Looks like we have fifteen minutes, so I'll
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: just skip ahead for a second. You can see Nick
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: and I walking through the creek. What I want you
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: to see is how all of the artifacts are collected.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: They're just being washed down right there in the creek.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: And then we'll skip up to our mound forty thirty
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: forty feet and then in this straight line, little.
• 54:26
  Speaker 8: And often bad people see the amount. And I had
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: a few nameless you know, So.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Guys, all of this right so here, here, here, here, here,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: here is the amount of this metal you're getting. It's everywhere,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: faceless twitter accusations thrown at me, like, oh, it's one
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: thing to find a relic, but it's another to strip
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: mine it for archaeologists. You know, what I think people
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: don't gather is just how I'm finding this stuff. You know,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: it's not a digging up at all of making sure
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: it gets saved, because of each subsequent.
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: Rain, it gets washed down.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to our mound metal. Yeah okay, So here, guys,
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: we're at the mound, and I'll guide us through it quickly.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Here you can see the ridge start deforming of this mound. Right,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk up fast, forward us up here, and
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: you will see what I mean by the creek. You
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: see all this concrete block and stuff. This is backfill
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: from the construction that's happening over here. So they bring
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: it down here and dump it. And this creek which
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: was running over here is now pushed over as you'll
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: see in a second.
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: Oh shit, yeah, okay.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: See here's another piece of clay.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: There's palace through there. All of this land is part
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: of the development. And you can see where they throw
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: their junk over here and they can push the top.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: And here's the mount of the burial mound, the backside
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: of this cresson right here, guys, this is where it's
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: washing out.
• 56:05
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: If you see all of this hanging down, this was groundcover.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: This is moss grass roots, right, So the mound was
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: originally out to here, and all of this has been
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: washed and is being carved out by this creek shape
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: burial mound. I've already showcased the clay back, which is
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: memorializes this same mound. Now we're gonna walk up it
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: and you'll see that, as I demonstrated earlier, the water
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: trickles in and will fill this crescent when the water's high.
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: But what's easy to see here. You can see from
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: the top soil to the mat right it's loose.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: All of this is being washed out because if you
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: can see right here the original creek line here, go
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: down here and do it. Nixt taking the shoes off. Now, hey,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: we're out. Hey, guys, we're out there barefoot, and Nick
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: was barefoot too, and you saw the ground with the
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: leaves on the trees. I'll probably have to walk you
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: along it, but you see all the way down there,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: it dives back around and we'll meet here. So right now,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: if you're looking at that crescent, that horseshoe, we're in
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: the We're at the top high point right at the
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: bottom of the bowl.
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: Here, let's take ourselves up to the high ground in
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: the leaves, okay, and.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: We're walking to the edge of the bowl. Now, yeah,
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: spider webs, Okay, you want to stay here and I'll
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: get down in the bowl. So what you're gonna notice
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: here is that this mound, though you saw the slope
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: as we walked up. Once you get to the bowl,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: it's straight down and you know, somewhere between what Nick
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: ten and twenty feet we can get some perspectacle on
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: how tall this thing is.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah much?
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're crazy. So you're essentially at the high point, Nick,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: of this whole crescent shape aerial right.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Can you run back that, Georgia, the jungle move you
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: just did.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Can you replay that?
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: You'd see?
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: You see this back here, guys, this is water. Okay,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: So this bowl, you know, forms and when the water recedes,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: there's still some left back here where it comes in.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: To illustrate what I mean, this bowl fills with water.
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: Okay, I don't know what are you fifteen feet above me? Yeah,
• 58:54
  Speaker 8: I would say so, yeah, now I go another three
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: feet down. I don't know.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: All right now the design fills the fuck that to me,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: it almost echoes the abilities we see over there in
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: the Winged Serpent where they were taking a creek creating
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: a swamp in order to make ahead. It shows an
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: understanding of not only earthworks, but also of using water,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: you know, not only using it, but incorporating it into
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: the design. As they exhibited here. That to me is
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: extremely impressive. Correct, all right, Now we're gonna walk down
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: around where that's the high point, really soft ground here,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: you see the bowl edge. Now we're gonna start walking
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: down the ramp. It's a ramp. It doesn't stay the
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: same height until you get down to the bottom. Somebody
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: got a machete over there there?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: What didn't.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: But I heard some machette over twelve or so feet. See,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: we're starting to slope down doing great balance great. See
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: now we're down to four or five feet right.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: And we're essentially there.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: You can start to see this other creek that's represented
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: on the clay piece and the light are right here
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: behind this mound.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: When this water is up, it flows into here, creating
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: finishing the bowl.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: H and then this is us at the bottom and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: the mall.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 8: Fucking mountain. It's like a hole in the old almost
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 8: like a horse really yeah, like half creata. So, I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 8: mean that's it's quite obvious you stay where you.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Are, but perspective, this is really soggy down here. Right
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: right back there, you can see water, and that creek
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: behind you flows in right there bide design it's a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: big thorn.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I propose it's it's the sun. I think, Yeah,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: I propose it's it's the sun. I think.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: You gotta think. You know they they went so much
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: trouble to memorialize it.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: This mound is this complicated piece of engineering, not only
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: to tolprate the water, but you know, look at the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: grave man slants and everything that went into Then you
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: have a north mark or tree bygan south. You have
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: an ex marker tree just south of here. You then
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: have clay representations with this mound represented on it. All
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  Speaker 3: of that put together shows me great ceremony. You know
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: that happened afterwards, just as we would really great person
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: we'd go to ever. Right, So when you put all
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: of the pieces together, the one that died that day
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  Speaker 3: that you would do that for was the chief's son.
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  Speaker 8: That's what gets me to burial plays.
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  Speaker 3: And there's your mound tyrone, and you have six minutes
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  Speaker 3: to spare not again. And this is the memorial clay
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: piece which I found in the creek. And that's the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: creek flowing end that fills that bowl with water. And
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: you just saw video of it. That's a crazy So
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: we didn't get everywhere there I planned on getting but
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: I think we we got a good bit out there. Yeah, okay,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: are we gonna hang up? Should I stop screen share
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: and bring it back to Maine? Or do we have
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: time to look at anything else? What do you guys
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: want to do?
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  Speaker 2: I mean we can let tyro own do is his
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: doctor's thing, and we can continue if you want.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm fine with looking at you show.
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  Speaker 9: Jason, can you show them those rows again? On on onlither?
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  Speaker 3: Sure? So the Mortar Creek rose?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Right, okay, so you've got your map here, right, this
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: is the area where the rows appear, right, and let's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: click over. Oh, these are mounds that are further south.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: This is still the same creek, and the lines are
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: up north. Okay, so here you go. Here's where it
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: transfers over. And you know, to light R two from
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: lighter to map. I did that just so you could see.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: It's showing you water, but it's showing you swamp. You know,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: these are swamp representations. But what it actually is is this, right.
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  Speaker 9: But when when you when you when you look at this,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 9: it looks like artificial reservoir, right, But when you go
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: to the fool, it's like walking into a swamp. Yeah,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: but when you go to the full lighter one, you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 9: see what I read here. I might be reading wrongly,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 9: but what I read here is that the rose precede
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: the that flow of water. It's like that flow of
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 9: water came when the whatever was maintaining these reservoirs caved
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: in and the water rushed in and erased some of
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: the rows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite possible, because you see the rows are
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: moving horizontal here and vertical here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right edge, like when you go jumping off in here,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: you see this edge right here. I mean that's like
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: a mound, and all these little dots through there are like,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: you know, little high points on the mound. It's just
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: extremely strange territory that it is not modern, as is
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: easily discernible by the age of all these cypress trees
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: and stuff from here.
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  Speaker 9: And the drology of the place. Because you see the river.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 9: He's whining he couldn't go into the reservoir, so he
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 9: just nicked it a bit and then went around it, right,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: you know.
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  Speaker 3: And when you look at this the map Ricardo, the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: big one, the whole picture you see through here right,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: all of these creeks, the one you were looking at.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Just there is a Mortar Creek which flows right here,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: but all of these creeks, you know, are diverted in
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: some way. Look at all of these bodies of water
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: through here. You know, it's like the creeks somehow create
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
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  Speaker 9: It looks like not only it's very old, and it
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 9: was different then, probably not swampy as it is for
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: the last three hundred or four hundred years, I don't know,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 9: maybe more, but it looks like whatever they were doing,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 9: they were controlling, nuraling the courses of water, but they
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 9: were staring water in it somewhere. So if you remember
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: the gardens, I think I'm not sure if it is
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 9: poverty point. I might be saying it wrong because I'm
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 9: not very versed in this, but I know that there
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 9: is a lot of indigenous peoples from the area that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: were very wise in making production of food and maintaining
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 9: of water, and.
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  Speaker 3: So right, it looks like the natives said they made
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: terrible slaves Ricardo, simply because of this. Everything they had
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: they didn't want for anything. I mean, we could propose
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: all day. I don't know, once you get on the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: ground and start looking at these things, but it could
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: even be a micro environment. You know, maybe there was
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: a reason that swamps were beneficial because of the floor
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: or fauna right that was drawn to it. It could
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: be all kinds of things, man, But.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 9: The swampy may have come later because of that excess
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 9: of water, right, because if it was maintained, you wouldn't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 9: have a swamp.
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  Speaker 3: It's very true, exactly, very true, tyrone. Do you need
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: to sign off? I don't want to run past your
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: time without giving you a chance to hop in for
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: a second.
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm good for another five minutes. It's just interesting
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: because I'm looking at this light. R. I got the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: USGS on my other screen over here too, and I'm
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: looking at him, and it's actually pretty interesting, bro, Like
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: this light Our shit is crazy?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Like how did you find his mound?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: You was just walking through the woods.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 8: Or something like?
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: It all started on the ground, man, right. So I
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: go in and I find these places.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: One of the first things I find is this just
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: on the map, because I'm looking on the map because
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: I'd already located what I'm certain is that of Hatchee
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: up around it here. So I'm looking at the map, right,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: and I zoom out and I see this, and I go,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: what the right?
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  Speaker 5: You want to know this road?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: I've driven that road, that swamp. Why do I see
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: these ridges? Right? So you go in and you're verified,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: you go, yeah, this is the same swamp I was
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: in last year. Right. Let me go look at this
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: light ar and you see all these ridges, you.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: Know, oh, you know here, the more I look at it,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: it looks like a boarhead.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: It looks like you know, at first I saw a jackal.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: The reason I say wing serpent is this actually ties
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: into much of the antidiluvian stuff I found in North Alabama. Right,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: we have a big star wound and impact crater, which
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: some say is like millions of years old. You know
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: who knows here in we Tonko, right. My point being,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: they picked this location to demonstrate what caused the destruction
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: of the younger dryas, Right, what brought the flood the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: stuff that destroyed everything I found in North Alabama. I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: believe that's where this echo of this geo engineering comes from.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: It's like the pyramids in Egypt.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: You see it on this large scale here, and then
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: I found it echoed all across what we call Tuscaloosi's territory,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: like I was showing you Mortar Creek, right, It's like, so,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: you know, the theory is that the Antidiluvians created this, right,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: or the survivors, not the Antidiluvians, but whatever connected spiritual
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: remnant right was around here, had something to do with this. Right.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: There's a reason that Chief Tuscaloosa was known as the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: last mound builder, see Adahatchie. Adahatchie was known as a
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: new town. That's how they described it. So he's the
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: last verifiable chief that were building new mounds all the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: other territories that wasn't happening. Why is all of this
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: echoed here? Well? What is does the wing serpent mean
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: to us? In every other culture around the planet where
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: it appears, it means comet green and the sky flying destruction,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: the winged serpent from heaven. Right, So all of what
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: I found in north and central Alabama there was evidence
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: of destruction. My I sees winged serpent when I look
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: in here, right, because I see that that a message
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: saying all this destruction you see north of here, this
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: winged serpent. That's why I see that. But I also
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: a first saw the jackal, you know, the Egyptian it
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: was a knowledge or wisdom bringer.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was looking at I was just looking at
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: boar's head. Yeah, it does look like a boar's head
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: to me. It came out as I wanted to make sure,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: but it definitely does. So, I mean, that's pretty interesting
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: because when I look at it, I was like, I mean,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: I'm from the South man, I'm in Georgia too, brouh.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: I'm in the woods a lot myself, and we see
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: that running around a lot and.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that shit like you do. Man,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: the triangular It's funny said that the triangular mound of
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: antidiluvian rubble on the cahaba right, which to me is
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: the light switch. It's got the drill holes all that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: on it, right. You can't explain it naturally. The way
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: I first got onto the top of it was a
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: wild boar.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: Man.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: You see how I'm out there barefoot right with my stick,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: and I'm walking along this mound trying to sort it out.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: And I hear a wild boar up over there, and
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: I was on top of that mounts.
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  Speaker 6: Bring my forty five, I go out, bro, I go,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: I bring my forty five out because they're really bad
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: out here man.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: And like I like it.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: They're glad, you know I feel on the forty five
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: I bring. Look, man, the places I go and the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: way I learned to go there. You know, you connect
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: with nature and you want to be at one with
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: it and you want it to be at peace with you.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: So I definitely don't mind my partners having a forty five,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: but I try to walk out there as the natives
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: would you know, well prepared are very bad man. I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: had to respect it. I had one of my buddies.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, my buddy was in the ATV and he actually
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: got attacked. Why I want they actually uh yeah they're nuts, dude, Yeah,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: they they're bad, but that's only when that really when
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: when the food is very low.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: So they go, they go ito's low or younger being protected, right, yeah,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: they go.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: Really they go really really guys are and it's it's interesting.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: I'm in the woods a lot. I enjoyed.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: I have a kayak and I have a seventeen foot
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: bass boat that I like to go out there. So
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: where I can never take my bass boat, I'll take
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: my kayak at and I go on through a lot of.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: Uh you know, little rivers and dreams and stuff like that,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: and you're.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: Fine, and you're right. I don't understand why people people
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 6: don't understand. You can find artifacts anywhere. It's very easy.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: There is there's a spot right here everywhere. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: there's a spot here that I'm like thirty minutes away
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: from Reidsville. If I have some arrowheads over there, you
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: can go right down there, man. And in the backwoods,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: bro and they got they got arrowheads and all kinds
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: of flint and all kinds of stuff out there just
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: laying on the ground.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: And like you said, it does get washed up.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: It's a lot.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: It's pretty interesting because where I'm at is there was
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: a lot of the Native Americans around here.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: Also, and it's big for the history about this place.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: Also they actually built some Savannah, actually built some of
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: their their stuff over.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: The Native American history. So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty interesting.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm wanner. I'm gonna jump out of here, Guys.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: I appreciate it. I'm gonna go take care of this business.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: This was always a pleasure, Seanan. Man, you gave me
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: a lot of information. I'm gona look at that. Like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: I told you before, Man, I need to come and
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: check you out because I actually have family and in Aniston, Alabama.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: You told me that.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, my popsa is from there. So Nick, if you
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: ever make another trip up there anytime soon, let me know.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: I'm only about if you want to go anyway.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: So yeah, man, we can do that time, bro, Yeah,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: we'll do it after these conferences because I'm already I'm
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 6: already gassed up and ready for these conferences.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: To do with what you're doing. And everybody that's uh.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: I called you, you know, in the little ad I
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: put out for this, I called you rebirth of the world,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: but it's rebirth of the word, right.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, word yeah word word. Y'all,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: y'all have a good afternoon now, because it's afternoon for
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: me at least. Y'all chill out a be alive, be happy,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: be blessed, and always learn something new.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: Knowledge is power, y'all. Take it easy.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: Hey, y'all, take care, Broke.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: I just pulled this up because the ridges you're asking
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: about Ricardo, So here you can see if we're at
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: this wing serpent. You know, I already showed you the map,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: you know, showing this you can see the ridges, but
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: that really shows it. There all these old cypress trees
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: and stuff in here, you know, to create this whole
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: very geo engineered seeing area. You see all these little
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: strange lakes. You know, I see that's a little snake.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: It's just it's just a very intriguing area. Guys, once
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: you h you start getting into it, you know.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 9: All of it looks heavily geoengineered, all of it and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 9: heavily destried bywater.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: After right, that's that's my guests, So guys, I'm I'm
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: open for exploring a little bit more if there's anything
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: of note you want to check out. I did make
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: video of the stuff I found in the Couser River.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: I just put it on X last night, showcasing that
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: this island in the Couser River is in fact an
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: island of artifacts. So you know, if you see X
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: put out a video before trying to imagine what this
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: place looked like. Right, And that's another example of let's
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: of us a mistaking landscape, right for what is evidence
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: of geo engineering. You know, this island out there that's
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: just a pile of rocks, and because it's been flooded,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: it all looks gray and bilgy. You bring it home,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: clean it off, and you realize that it's its artifacts
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: of quartz. So that would be such a sacred place, right,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: And that's what I hope to get out of all this.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: We can take a minute and look at the of
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: course the Mobila artifacts, just because Nick's in it and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: he can comment some. But you know what I really
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: hope overarching we guide this whole thing towards is appreciating
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: what was here that we have yet to appreciate. Right,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: not only with this plan the Tuscaloosa put in place.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: You know, we review that map one more time and
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: we see that he had had a hatchee here, Mobila here, right,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: and he brings Tuscaloosa down into here, cross is here,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I mean Soto here, and they even delay them here.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: They tell them we don't have enough canoes. You know,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: they have to build their own, right, And it's water
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: all sides. You've been brought in here. You're gonna cross
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: this and think you've crossed a river, right, and then
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: hear the remains of the town. I showed you the
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: platform mound. What we can do is just give everybody
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: a visual of this place. Nick, I think it was
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: the last drone video probably Okay, so Nick and I
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: are standing over here. You see the bluffs. Okay, these
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: are the bluffs they talked about, forty two one hundred
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: foot bluffs, and that ridge runs all through here. Now
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: the drones coming back to Nick and I standing right
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: there in this video. Let me pull up the other
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: one and we'll get an idea. See when I showed
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: you the map yet, so see this is the water flow.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Now if we're saying they were brought in from from
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Atta Hatchie over here somewhere into this region right and
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: then cross this thing. Now, all you would have to
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: describe what you just did is crossing a river, because
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: here's the river right, The river flows right by this.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: Nick's still heading north. Here's the golf course. You again
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: see the forty two one hundred foot you know, embankment,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: and it runs over here as well. Really starting to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: show the embankment. There we go. So this is all
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: what would have been described. These trees would have been gone.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: All of this is mounds up here. They built a
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: Scottish Lynx style golf course right now. If you don't
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: know what that means, what that means is it's full
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: of mountains right, all these little hillocks. Here's the light
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: are of the golf course. Right, here's your ridge, and
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: here's all these mounds and mounds and mounds. Now where
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: did the dirt come from? Or why did they bring
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: in the dirt to turn this into a Scottish link
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: style golf course? If this were all flat terrain like
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: the rest, I propose they didn't. I propose a lot
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: of this was already here.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: It's easier just to roll with it.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Not only that they did not want to start digging
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: to try and level that in then article fine.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: I went to a guy. I went to Dollar General
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: last night, and the guy checking it out just you know,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: good old local, down home boy, right, and he likes
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: to tell me about his day when I when I
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: pop in there and he said, yeah, I'm slow today.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: He said, I got popped for almost trespassing in a
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: creek yesterday. And you know me what creek? And he
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: said over here at Cooter's Pond. Now, Nick, when you
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: and I went, I pointed out the creek we crossed over,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: and I said, look, they put up no trespassing. Somebody's
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: bought all of that property. But the reason is surface finds,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: and like this guy was telling me, I said, I
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: think that's where De Soto crossed the river. He said
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: me too, What said you were saying? He said, you
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: can find surface finds.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: I was like, I know, I know, I'll come talk
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: to you a bit, But this this would be the area.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Then there's that bridge is the golf course, and that
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: water just continues as you saw on the map all
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: through here. And if we fast forward to where Nick
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: turns around, here's your ridge line again. Let's keep jumping,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: and there you go. You're showing the whole ridge line
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: they would have crossed like this is basically the view
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: they'd have had crossing right here. Right now, over to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: their left is the Alabama River. But when you cross
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: this and the water goes as far as you can
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: see to the right and to the left this river
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: you've been following the whole time, right, What are you
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: going to write down in fourteen fifty three that you
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, uh, sorry, fifteen forty that you just did
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: right right? Okay, So last of the drone. Let's see
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: it's back up here. I just want to see if
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: you guys can really get the understanding of the river.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: So here's Nick over the golf course where he got stuck.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: Look at all the mounds out here, guys out there. Now,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: let's see if you turn around, see all this water.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: It just keeps going here. This is the Alabama River
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: right here, right. So if you're crossing from a peninsula
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: right here, right, how do you describe what you just crossed?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: Because this is the river Montgomery is right here right.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: The river winds all the way down and back to
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: this point.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: So that's the proposal there. Not only do you very
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: look at this jay shaped island. Remember that that's a
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: strange one on the map again, g you engineered.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Oh it's a weird way for the land to.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: It's like so much of this was was somehow engineered,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: especially when and here's where right the currents. Here's where
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: the river flows in. Nick's about to show you down
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: river here and so it's it's just all flowing and
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: this flow is sucking this flow right physics, So it's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: all flowing. And there's Montgomery off from the distance. This
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: is the river at a Hatchee would be back over here,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: Tallasey the Coosa River where they crossed right over and here,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: and that is the impact crater ridgeline. You're starting to
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: see form as he's looking over towards we tanka. All
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: right there, that's all impact crater ridge, the star wound
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: as they call it, right, and this is the river
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: flowing in. So they came from over here by the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: star wounds to this peninsula, crossed here you've got your
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: mounds and your forty foot bluff. And then they continued
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: their march. See here we are on the map. Here's
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: where we were just showing you the river flowing in.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: Here's a peninsula they were led to. Here's the J
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: shaped island right there right, and they cross over to
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: these bluffs, which are well described in the chronicles, and
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: then up to Mobila. They were described as camping nearby
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: and then making a very short it was a very
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: short marshal Mobilla. They arrived. The lead vanguard was there
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: by nine am. They said. And when you see they
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: started here with meeting Tuscaloosa, you understand the genius of
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: the plant. You see, he tells them I'm taking you
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: to a town far away. He leads them down here
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: in two days. Comes here. They don't know where they are.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: They see water, they recognize the river. They cross it.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: Now Tuscaloosa knows, okay, they're not going to go back there.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Whatever happened. By the time I get them here to Mobila,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: they're not going to realize, you know, they will think
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: there's a river between us. Right now, when I was
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: here working on a piece of property, there's a mound
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: in the back that a house SIT's on. I've talked
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: to the owners, They've described everything around. I was having
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: to dig what I knew to be an earthwork, about
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: two feet of it.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't even want to do it. I put the
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: guy there that was working with me on the tractor
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: in charge. I did all the work in the front, right,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: I still want to be part of it. I go
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: back the next days and I see the burnt the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: charcoal from the posts, right, it's in there. And then
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: the creek running between the large mound and this earthwork,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: which would appear to have been because it's all red.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: It's full of daub a burnt wall. In that little creek,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: you find pottery, you know, all the necessary native artifacts
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: to prove presence. And that's here, you see. So TEUs
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: Lisa had his new town here, his big four to
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: five town here. Now, instead of taking him straight there,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: what does he do? He wastes time. He takes them
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: all the way down and through, giving these guys time
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: to prepare, but also making sure whatever goes down the
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: rest of his stuff, his new town is safe over here.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: And what we now know had to be a sacred
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: area because of all these earthworks, which they certainly would
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: have recognized at the time as something even though they
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: couldn't see them from above. You know, the fact that
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: they they made this this crescent mound. You know, it's
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: not could they see it from above. They obviously understood,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: you know, shaping right the landscape for an effect. Okay,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: so I think we have the artifact table. I don't
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: know if there's any interest to take a peek of
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: that real quick, or if we need to go ahead
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: and wrap. I want to be respectful of where we're
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: at here. Okay.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: If it's.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: So, let's go here. Okay, there's been uther was inside
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: the eighty houses that Soto decided to set fire to,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: burning everything they had with them, priests, everything you need
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: for communion, blacksmiths, keep the three hundred and fifty horses shoed.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: We had hundreds of pigs, we had cooks, we had cutlery,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: we had metal, we had armor. None of it was
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: on them, right, the slaves carried everything to stress inside.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: So what do you expect to find when an entire
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: town is burned and all of this Spanish metal has
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: been on the inside, has seen that heat, has melted,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: has been there, tossed around and underground for hundreds of
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: years until development pushes it all into a creek. What
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: would you expect to find, say, a look here, we
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: have laid out next since your mobile, let's first give
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: them an idea of what we're talking about in quantity.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: I think. So they say, when you're looking for Magilla,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: what are the experts say?
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: How will you know? Well, you will have more metal
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: than you know what to do with. The official academics
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: who are hunting for Mobila sixty miles that way have
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: found a quarter of a horse shoe. Okay, correction right here,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: that's the biggest piece they found is a quarter of
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: the horseshoe, not the only piece. And what I believe
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: it establishes, because it's a good hour or so west
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: of here, is that is the route Tuscaloosa took out
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: and they did a winter encapment that year after they
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: took off, because they ran into a lot of native resistance.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: And that's probably what we're looking at with those guys. Okay,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: now what I've found. I've laid out a few pieces
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: here on this table so you get an idea of
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: the different types, and we'll review the table.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: But Nick, if you want to give everybody an idea.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: I have examples.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: But these buckets are full of metal. I have one more.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: Here.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: I have the last bucket, which was brought up a
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: I left here so you could see the.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 8: Randomness, the different types of metal.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: How these sheets have the quartz rocks stuck in them
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: from where they were lying on the ground when they burned.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Here with the clay, this big hunk with the various
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: quartz pieces stuck inside, and all the other features I'll
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: show you.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: On the table.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: But this is a random bucket. Last one gathered again
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: quantity we go here, same thing.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: A little bit more than a horsehe right, a little
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 8: bit more than horseshoe bro And this is what one
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: man with these buckets has brought up over the past
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 8: few years. Right here. We're not done yet, Oh, yeah, here.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Full to the brim, all it, brother, because you will
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: come back with this much inside as we go through.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: This is just the multiplicity of types of metal that
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: you see exhibited.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: There is not just iron. There is not just one type.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: The only way I really noticed start is to dig in.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: So first things I put my hands on. Usually I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: like to display the hollow nature of a lot of this. Right,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: this is a striking piece. You can see these bubbles
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: represented here. I like these pieces. I've got several to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: show you because no carbon. Whatever this was dropped on
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: was not metal, as exhibited by the fact that I
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: can stick my finger in there and pulled out the
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: carbon from the fire. Okay, now you'll see this carbon
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: present on many of these pieces. This odd looking thing
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: which had something in here, right, You see the carbon
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: starting here you flip it around.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 8: That was the case.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: This was obviously on a stick, a pole, something which
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: carbonized when it all burned. So the carbon feature exhibits
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: on a lot of these pieces. What I've tried to
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: do is just group them roughly so you can get
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: an idea for the different types. Nick, you like this
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: piece because it exhibits you imagine a hunk armor or
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: a horse armor or who knows. You can see these
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: holes obviously there and designated on the back where it burned.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 8: Right here close.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: Man, we have this. I call this first piece. That's
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: how I referred to it before, because I was after
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: gathering all of this, you know, you start picking up
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: these pieces, and I wasn't looking for Mobila. Right I'm
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: down there on this creek, connecting with God, trying to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: you know, sort my own sort of stuff out. But
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: I start finding all this metal, and so then I
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: learned about a story about Mabila.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 8: Now I was holding this piece.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: In my hand. I was in like the outside of
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: the ups waiting for someone over here in town in
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: a parking lot.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 9: I was telling you that you should do a soft
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 9: print of those writings, a soft print of the what
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 9: so either use a blasto scene or or just ink
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 9: and then roll it in a in a parchment, or
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 9: just put vegetable paper on top of it and and
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 9: and scratch it. You have the themprint, so because it's
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 9: much easier if you only have the symbols.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: That's a brilliant idea. Man, I'd love to see what
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: comes out. Okay, I'm gonna click it off and ask
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: for questions real quick, and on and on. You can
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: check the video online. But you're seeing my point now.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: This entire island is some sort of a sanctuary. Nice
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: petrified wood piece here that's been worked, and that is
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: the last what I was hoping to get edited about,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: you know, trying to paint this picture of what was
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: really going on here. We've covered the mounds, we've covered.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: I wanted to cover that bucket just to really showcase
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: that this island in the middle of this sacred river,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: formed by this star wound, was in fact an island
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: of quarts, all of it obviously manufactured in some way
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: touched by the hands of man. Yeah, that really opened
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: my eyes and it revealed to me why I've always
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: felt drawn to that place, and it was so special.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: That's all I wanted to cram in. Guys, I'm gonna
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: leave it to y'all now as to what we do.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: Have you have you done any research on that golf course?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: Like how far back can we see as far as
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: the landscape there?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: What do you mean? How far back like can we
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: see it like.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Ten years ago, twenty years ago? How long's it been there?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that course was built when I was in
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: high school or so maybe junior high, right, so you're
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: talking late nineties, So could we find archived footage?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: I would think, so, yeah, that would be interesting to see.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: I would think, yeah, see, you know, things just things
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: stuck in your mind. And what stuck in my mind
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: as a child. You know, my father watched a golful lot.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: I played a little bit, took some lessons, so I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: had it into my periphery. And when a Robert Trent
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: Jones golf trail was opening in private, it was sort
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: of big news, you know. And one of my professors
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: at Aum Theater professors, he was huge in the golf,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: and so he was informing me, you know, it's gonna
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: be a Scottish Links golf course course, you know, And
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: I'm playing back the pictures in my head when I
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: watch TV with my dad, I'm seeing the Scottish Links
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: and I'm going, what why why are they moving all
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: that earth? You know, that was just the thought I
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: had in nineteen whatever ninety five, you know, when this
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: place was getting up and going. And then so here
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: today when I'm drawn to Fiacia and I see these cliffs,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: you know, and I find this mound, this, this platform
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: light are then I'm able to connect the dots and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: go right the Scottish Lakes because it was there Scottish
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: already there terrain right here on the Alabama River. Wonder
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: what that was? Mounds maybe gotta be.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: I have a question.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: Then you just go walk and you can be anybody
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: walking your fricking dog here in Cooter's pond and you
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: can pick up artifacts.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: I have a question Jason about when you guys were
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: filming at the like the mound, at the Mound earthworks. Well,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: you said the development is basically border right up along
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: the river, and they're pushing, you know, essentially pushing all
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: their jump into the river and sort of diverting it,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: which is undercutting the mound.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: Do you know.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: Specifically if the development has plans to expand past the
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: river line or like?
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: It's okay, so here's what's happening. If I pull up
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: my map here all right, And and in order for
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: Nathan to try to get the whole scene on, he
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: had to load other county path maps and I didn't
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: want him to take the time. So this as far
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: as we went. But you're talking this region here right
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: now you see all these streets right, but now this
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: this neighborhood is continued. Here's this road, this road right,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: it moves up right here, right, comes up off your
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: screen over back around here. Now this neighborhood has already cleared.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: All of this right, you don't see it on this map.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: All of this is now neighborhood. Okay, all of this
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: on this side of the road right here, neighborhood, right,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: all of this being cleared now all through here. Now.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: The tricky part about all of this, and I've really
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: had no choice but to, you know, kind of keep pushing,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: is currently all of this is for sale. Okay, Now
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: the development has not encroached. If you basically followed this square,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: this red square line here right, and then this creek
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: that I'm following is the property line right. And this
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: creek right here is where the X marker mound is, right,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: I mean the X tree and then the marker the
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: crescent mound is right here. All right. Now, all of
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: this is currently for sale. It has been for years
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: because of all these creeks and this little beaver pond
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: right in here, which makes this swamp look like a pond.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: It's the beaver Pond dimensioned in the chronicles, right, Okay,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: so it can't it can't readily be developed. And that's
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: what's saving is it's on the market and can't really
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: be developed. So these people aren't snatching.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: It up, right, just kind of buying up all around
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: it all.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: Completely completely, it's completely encircled. And then it even carries
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: on the mound structures carry on back over and here,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: you know, in very old neighborhood, back on this side
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: of the road. But this entire area, you know, is
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: eat up with it. But yes, so right now we
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: have the Crescent Mound, the both the marker trees and
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: all encompassing territory for sale, right and then this here,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: so you jump in right here at the beaver pond,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: and I traced the metal. It doesn't come out of
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: this creek, right, it's coming out of these right here. Okay,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: like the little subsiduary clearing the original sections here, this
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: is original. So this, this was your first bit of neighborhood,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: and then this and now it's just womb circling all
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: around this, right. So obviously the battle site in the
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: town proper is somewhere probably in this area. And when
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: you take this road. I used to have a converbile
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: as a kid, and I drove this road and before
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: they cleared it, it was my favorite drive because it's
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: just beautiful rolling hills and plains, just as described in
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: the chronicles. But it's neighborhood.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: Now, okay, does anybody else have any questions? Nick Ricardo?
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: Nick, what are your thoughts? You still with us? You
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: were here?
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, golf course is really interesting.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 9: I would have liked to have been able to see
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 9: more of that area.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: And I really thought that was interesting to think about
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: what it was prior.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: I really I was even thinking myself I wanted to
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: start looking that up. It was it was the end
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: of the day, so we when we were leaving Cooter's Pond,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: I tried to point out to Nick the entrance to
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: this area has a really big mound that they've now
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: put a clock tower on. You know, So again all
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: of this I've put forward the reason I'm positing this
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: because you know, it looks like mountains. It's right where
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: you find all the surface fines and with the light
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: r you know the fact that so just south of
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: the golf course, So where Nick and I were standing
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: with the drone footage. To our left is the golf course.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: Right to our right is the peninsula where when I
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: looked at light ar I pulled.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 8: This up.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: I've had you know, Maldlore, a few other I don't
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: want to say anybody's name to get them messed up,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: but you know, I've had people look at this and
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: you can look at it, and that's platform mound. When
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: you look at the map, this is all wooded. It's
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: all old growth forest. This is not a new structure.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: And that sits right there, you see. So there's that mound.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: Here's these the bluffs, golf course all up here right.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: Nick and I were standing here filming, and here's where
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: the river flows in and the part where they crossed.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: So this area is eat up with all the signatures
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: little mounds. When it came in. I remember, I pointed
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: to you Nick where the bluff started. And this is
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: an old neighborhood right here, these lines you see, so
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: this is has been developed, you know, for a while.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: And you can see little mound structures when you drive
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: up in there. But yeah, the golf course is uh
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: is right up there. Okay, anybody else next.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm good. Anybody else got questions.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: I think we're pushing some folks got family matters to
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: see too.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, I love this story and I love your enthusiasm,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: and I really yeah it's out there.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: I discovered, you know, the native spirit first, you know,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: and I hint at when the chroniclers, you know, when
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: they when they come through here, they don't understand, you know,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: not only where all this material stuff is coming from,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: right that they see everywhere when they're describing these temples
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: and these statues and all of this, right, these giant people,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: but the way these people behaved and conducted themselves, right, Yeah,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: they the Spanish couldn't represent it. They didn't see schools,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: they didn't see you know what I mean. Their eyes
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: could not grasp where this was coming from. And as
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: I was discovering spirit first, right, God first, and then
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: he's guiding, you know, we're going through all this. As
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: I'm just popping around discovering all this native stuff, you
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: know that I suddenly start feeling and realizing a connection
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: to and that became a through line for the story.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: As I started discovering, you know, these earthworks and what
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: they were really up to in these islands. Of course,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: right that really just started to make sense, as that's
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: that's the way to go is first of all, I
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: can start to explain and understand that these people were
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: in touch with spirit because my own experience has taught
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: me and that that's real. Right, you can be leded
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: and guided and taught and commune with a live and acting,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: active presence. Right. So this all started making so much
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: more sense to me from that angle when I started
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: reading these descriptions of them marveling at where these ethics,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: these morals and this ability to communicate as though they
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: had AI running through their brain. You know, really that
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: is because they were so in touch with that. So yeah,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: I am excited about it, I really am. Yeah, thank you.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're such a great story.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: Tell her too that too, you really are. You've done
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: a great job. You've done a great job with this presentation.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yes I knew you were working hard.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, the work is. The work is out in the fields,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: you know, And that's the fun. I had to sit
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: there for two days and had I set all this
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: up its new computer side and everything, you know, refreshing
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: because it's been probably ten years since I really sat
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: down to a PC and broke anything open. So yeah,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: it's it's what I love and going out and doing it.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: You guys see my videos as I post them. You know,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: I'm spending all day out there communing and gathering these
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: rocks and artifacts that people just see as junk because
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: we've damned it at Ruver. But it doesn't equate to work.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: Jacquelin and I started the day with a quote. She
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: said it, I see you've been doing a lot of work.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: I said, well, when you're doing what you're passionate about,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: you never work a day in your life. And that's
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: the truth, perpose.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: That's very true for you, I think, very true for you. Yeah,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: very true for.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: All of us. I can't see you guys stood up
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: my share screen on. I guess I can pop it off.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: I don't want to mess up our sound. But very
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: true for all of us, you know, absolutely all of us.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: That's what I love about this group. You know, we
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: all have such extraordinary things and extraordinary talents and and
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: and our own things going on. And when I start
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: seeing those type people group together, you know there's nothing
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: you can do but be excited about what's building there.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: Shout out Institute of Natural Philosophy, right, that's the name
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: of the game, right there. Yeah, right, that's the end
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: of it. There we go. Hey, Charlotte's coming down. It
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: must be late. You're falling waking up. I've had both
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: the girls here home sick.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: Uh the season.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: Stup?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: There is there?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Well, if no one has any more, Nick, thank you
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: for getting out there and getting the footage and cooking
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: up with Jason and the droom footage. I appreciate all that.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: I love that overview. I need to see that in
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: order to put everything into perspective. So that's very helpful.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 8: Same.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ricardo, how are you feelings? Jacqueline had to reach
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: over and slap you any Have you been behaving yourself?
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm very well behaved.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: I'm very well behaved. I know you are. Yeah.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 9: I was wondering because the way you are finding all
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 9: of that, it's it's kind of after you show the
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 9: urban development. I wonder if those bulldozers that they were
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 9: farming the area and planing it all out and pushing
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 9: it to the edges, then wouldn't allow you to find
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: all of that stuff that you've been finding.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: So correct. Part of the story is, you know that's
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: why you know, you see me approaching it very neutrally, right,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: because if that hadn't have transpired, it would not have
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: been in this creek that I was going to pray
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: and can act right.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 9: Sure, But to them probably they couldn't see anything because
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 9: if it was burned to the ground, all was mixed up.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 9: It just rubbled to their eyes, right, and make it
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 9: these woods?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: You see these woods, you know, they're covered in these
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: thorns and and this this brush. And that's the way
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: they were until the developers came in, you know, so
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: they just come in and mass cut these trees. I mean,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: I'm watching them do it behind me, you know, and
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: then push their bulldozers and get it all out. The
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: fact that the metal ended up in the creek is
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: a little suspicious, right, a little suspicious. But I stopped
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: with that because I'm grateful it did, because we wouldn't
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: be sitting here today, you know, if we.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 9: Had and and that massive mount. Because the difference of
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 9: height between the top and the bottom on the the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 9: questioned mound, I was.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: Not expecting it to be sorry speakable. I think it's
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: my boume it'siz and go. But I can't hear you.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 9: Oh so I was saying that I was impressed by
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 9: the height of the mound. I was not expecting it
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 9: to be that that big. The problem is, if you,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 9: for instance, put a team there to try and clean
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 9: it and try to recover its former a little bit
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 9: of its former glory, you're going to destroy it because
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 9: of all of those trees, all those roots going in.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 9: I don't I don't think it's possible to recover that,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 9: at least not easy.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: There's without damage from where trees, say pine trees have grown,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: you know, and then when they die, they make the
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: fat wood, you know, because all the suercettles, and then
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: over time those become loose and people pull them out,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: and those exists on the mound and I shot neck
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: one or two. You put your hand down in it,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: and oh the GPS, you know.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's it's a shame because it must be
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: a beautiful place if we managed to recover it.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, it's it's the prayer. It's the hope too.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 9: I think both of you are are congratulations are in
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 9: art because you did a great job.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: Indeed, I appreciate that. I mean that other thing. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: Nick did great. I can't wait to see him back
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: down here. You know, we had a lot of fun.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: We crammed a lot into We did Moss Rock in
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: a day, which was an hour and a half drive
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: for both of us, and then we did all of
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: this down here in a day. It was just go, go, go, go,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: go looking for it. We got all some money to
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: the institute, so we can just send him back down
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: here and we can both stay in hotels and eat
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: comfortably and go film the rest of what we've got
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: down here working on it.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 9: We we need we need Steve to to put this
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 9: this stuff together.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: Hey, Nathan's hard at work too, man, putting together an
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: episode out of all of this, and uh, you know,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: hopefully we can we can push this somewhere and carry
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: everybody you know to a to a higher plane. Because
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: the mission is simple. It's getting this truth out there.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: No matter which category we all are focused on, you know,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: it's all about pursuing truth of the information of this
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: universe we live in.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 9: You know, I'm very confident that the product will generate
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 9: enough revenue for for both of you continue this adventure
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 9: and and do it in a much more comfortable way
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 9: and without being in fashion.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: As long as as long as Nick doesn't smoke everything.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: And yet Nick some water shoes.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm getting now, we got to toughen
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: up his feet.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: He did great. Most people balk at that because of
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: the sensity, and Nick didn't even check up. I didn't
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: even mention it. He just did it because as he
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: saw me and we were starting to get a little.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: Trooper, well those were smooth rocks. Yeah, we're own, sir.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: That was the easy route, Nick, It.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: Really was, guys. I went like a year and a
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: half without shoes, you know, when I was starting the
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: shamanic calling and then just waking up to everything I
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: was doing, and uh yeah, I went everybody these swamps
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: with these these you know ridges we were talking about, Yeah,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: just all barefoot, because you know, I said, the natives
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: can do it, I can do it.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: You know, sure, sure, yeah, Jason, we really really really
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: deeply appreciate all the work that you put into this.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: And I can listen to this story continuously because I
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: just I just love the dynamics of it. It's a
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: great story and probably one that needs to be told
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: more broadly, for sure, So get much much richer.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: Every time he tells it like we take something else
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: away from it to where now it's just this huge
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: thing and like we're enjoying the.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 8: Ride with you.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I'm enjoying the ride with you, guys. You
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: know I said it best, har Ricardo, how we put it.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: I love watching a plan fall in place, especially when
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: I had nothing to do with it, you know, So
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: thank all abuse, sincerely. I send that right back to you,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: each and every one of you.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, many hearts, all the hearts.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: Hey yeah, hey, yeah.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 9: So I heard an expression that is now I've got
• 1:49:11
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• 1:49:16
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• 1:49:24
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• 1:49:26
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• 1:49:48
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• 1:49:58
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• 1:50:00
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• 1:50:00
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• 1:50:10
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• 1:50:12
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• 1:50:14
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  Speaker 2: Institute for Natural Philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: That's it, Okay, really appreciate it. Coffee, Yeah, buy me
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  Speaker 1: a coffee. Yes, thank you so much, Shaman. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: Nick for video assistance and for being part of the
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  Speaker 1: UU crew. And thank you Padre.
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  Speaker 2: The podfather himself.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, and most of my thanks go sorry boys, but
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  Speaker 1: to my sweet dolly Sarah, because I would like to
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  Speaker 1: publicly announce how much work she puts into the editing
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  Speaker 1: and the production of our videos, all of our videos.
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  Speaker 1: Ah shucks, she's gonna say that, but I need her
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  Speaker 1: to know how important that is to me and what
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  Speaker 1: great work she does. So thank you, Sarah.
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  Speaker 2: It takes two.
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  Speaker 1: It's twins, It takes two, the twins, the twins. Yeah, boys, thank.
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  Speaker 3: You Carlin with the go check out the Institute of
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  Speaker 3: Natural Philosophy and the Truth No, what is that? Our
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  Speaker 3: best future requires the truth of our past. Been a blast, guys, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: thank you Dreson.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's all starting off. Thanks everyone for watching
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  Speaker 3: Guys,