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Almost Famous OG: Rock & Roll with Christy Carlson Romano · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to Almost Famous Ogs.
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  Speaker 1: It's Trista.
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  Speaker 2: Bob is playing in a pebble beach Carmel without me
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  Speaker 2: at a golf tournament, which I'm having major fomo about.
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  Speaker 2: But the only thing making it better is that Christy
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  Speaker 2: Carlson Romano is here as my co host to talk
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  Speaker 2: all the Special Forces recap and tee and all the things.
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: But when I was texting you last night, so a
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  Speaker 2: little a little background, I was watching the show, of course,
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  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, like three quarters of the
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  Speaker 2: way through, almost three quarters of the way through, the
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  Speaker 2: plane and helicopter crash happened, which, oh my gosh, it
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  Speaker 2: is such a horrible story, like I so awful. I
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  Speaker 2: just I just can imagine and think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Our first episode was the fires, and the fire coverage
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  Speaker 1: on the West coast got cut out due to fires.
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  Speaker 1: So it's been a really wild I mean, just these
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  Speaker 1: few weeks. January has still not ended. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to point that out.
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  Speaker 3: I want it to be done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to move on, Lordie.
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  Speaker 2: We've had enough drama in chaos for the whole year,
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  Speaker 2: so yes, So I got cut off and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get to watch it, and so I waited until this morning, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for it to come out on Hulu. I text you
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm so proud of you.
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  Speaker 1: You made it.
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  Speaker 2: And then like two seconds later on the show, she
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  Speaker 2: gets her arm bandfold, so I'm like, I'm she and
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  Speaker 2: you didn't respond to me, and I was like, oh crap,
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  Speaker 2: what's happening. And you're usually so good about it, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, did I say something wrong?
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  Speaker 2: And then I saw the show this morning and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, hello, I totally said, well, you should
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  Speaker 2: be so proud, and then it was like the moment
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  Speaker 2: that you got pulled from the show. So I'm so
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  Speaker 2: sorry that I was clearly obtuse and just an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly thought, because you are so supportive that you
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  Speaker 1: had seen it and you were already just being like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you made it that far and just to be proud,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think that the sentiment changes. And it's
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  Speaker 1: been a really kind of very introspective twelve hours I think,
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  Speaker 1: from you know, it hasn't probably even been twelve hours.
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  Speaker 1: My daughter in the middle of the night got a
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  Speaker 1: fever because flu's going around right now.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Ryan's been sick for like a week.
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  Speaker 1: And I think a hundred kids were out at the
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  Speaker 1: school yesterday because of flu. Oh that's a lot of kids.
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  Speaker 3: Watch out for that.
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  Speaker 1: It's the January flu. Let's just call it back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: since this is this is what's happening. But she's she'll
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  Speaker 1: be okay. It was just it's funny how I've seen
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  Speaker 1: this meme or you know, funny reels that us moms
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  Speaker 1: they send each other. I should start sending you some
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  Speaker 1: to I'm yes, please, okay, good you're you're on the
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  Speaker 1: short list now. But you know, we send send each
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  Speaker 1: other stuff. And one of the funny things is when
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  Speaker 1: you're having an emotional breakdown as a mom, but then
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  Speaker 1: you stop because your child comes in and asks you
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  Speaker 1: to open a bag of snacks. I'll send you that one.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how it felt last night.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it felt last night when I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a little emo or whatever, and then
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  Speaker 1: like my daughter comes in and she's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's about four in the morning, and uh, we
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  Speaker 1: wake up at six or so, you know, to get
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  Speaker 1: ready for school, and there's something in you that just
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  Speaker 1: hones in on, Okay, this is what my life is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like the reality and the purpose and and
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  Speaker 1: and and it's it's it's a it's a service. You
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  Speaker 1: know that moms have. We we activate and we take
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  Speaker 1: care of our babies. So I think that that kind
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  Speaker 1: of delayed any more grieving that I've had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on trying to think about what went down. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually curious how you I mean, if do you want
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  Speaker 1: to how we how do you do this? On your pod?
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  Speaker 1: You go from the beginning of a show.
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  Speaker 2: From the from the beginning, but since you're here, like,
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  Speaker 2: I want to know about how you're feeling to start
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  Speaker 2: and and I will say, I mean, even though I
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  Speaker 2: was only there for two days, you put it perfectly grieving,
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel like you're grieving. You're not, Like my
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  Speaker 2: decision was my decision. They obviously pulled your armband so
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  Speaker 2: that it was very different. But tell me what you're grieving,
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  Speaker 2: because if people normally think of grieving as a loss
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  Speaker 2: or a death or you know, something like that, but
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's very similar. And I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I've kind of gone through through the stages of grief
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  Speaker 2: in a way like being you know, at Pea, I
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  Speaker 2: was at peace to start. Maybe I went backwards. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I went through it backwards and then I was like
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  Speaker 2: I got home and I'm like, wait, what did I
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  Speaker 2: just do?
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  Speaker 1: Kyla felt the same way, and Kyla spoiler alert, was
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  Speaker 1: also eliminated, although she quit so I felt like she
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  Speaker 1: had a very similar thing to you Trista, where you know,
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  Speaker 1: she was this tiny girl and she had made it
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  Speaker 1: so far. She actually, and I don't want to speak
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  Speaker 1: for her, but she's very vocal about this. She kind
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  Speaker 1: of wanted to quit that morning, but kind of got
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  Speaker 1: rushed into the morning events of like get your pack,
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  Speaker 1: get your this gate, and she was trying to find
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  Speaker 1: a time to make it happen. She said she even
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  Speaker 1: went to the rock like you did, and Q was
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  Speaker 1: like we're busy, like go away, So it wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: right time and then she essentially was just like I
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  Speaker 1: gotta go.
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  Speaker 3: She was trying, but then she's like no. And when
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  Speaker 3: we went.
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  Speaker 1: Through it the night before, right, yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think they were really thinking one of us would break,
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  Speaker 1: and clearly they didn't know that the Disney girls are
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're pretty resilient Mickey Mouse, Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're tough, like that gang gang. But she's so great though,
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  Speaker 1: because we also have a sense of humor, which I
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  Speaker 1: think really brought you through the pain and your hypothermia
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  Speaker 1: to still feel so good about your experience. And then
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  Speaker 1: you know, her and I then had been making jokes
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  Speaker 1: and trying to keep it light. And you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is the episode that you see just how real this
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  Speaker 1: show gets, just how serious the show actually is. For
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  Speaker 1: like the next you know, this episode in the next
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  Speaker 1: episode is even more serious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. So tell me your thought process and
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  Speaker 2: on why you think it's grieving and what you're grieving.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I will sometimes your audience is gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: bear with your co host today because I do talk
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  Speaker 1: around topics. Maybe they're nice though, maybe you have really
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  Speaker 1: sweet and patient because they are they must because they
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  Speaker 1: know you and they love you, so you have to
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  Speaker 1: love me and listen.
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  Speaker 2: We're if even if we had like a script of
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about, it does not have
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  Speaker 2: to go by the script. That's the beauty of our podcast.
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  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of most most podcasts. But for now, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's we're just chatting. We're just chatting, chat.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So I I you're right, it's very hard
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  Speaker 1: to put a word to what a contestant on the
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  Speaker 1: show experience is after and I think that that's why
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  Speaker 1: production allows for you to have mental health access afterwards.
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  Speaker 1: They've checked in with us periodically, and I've commended Fox
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  Speaker 1: as well as Minno to sort of allocate the budget
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that we're all good and that they
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  Speaker 1: don't have to really, I don't feel like they have
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  Speaker 1: to do that, and certainly and other sets I've been in,
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  Speaker 1: they they haven't thought that way. So it's kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is a nice surprise that I have access to
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  Speaker 1: this for the first time. That being said, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the therapist wasn't really there. I think there was a
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  Speaker 1: couple therapists that would watch us around the clock, right, Trisa, yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Because when you finish your exit interview, when you
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  Speaker 2: leave the show, you do an exit interview on camera,
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  Speaker 2: and then you go and you talk to the psychologist
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  Speaker 2: and you make sure that everything's okay if there's anything
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  Speaker 2: you want to share. And when I was doing my
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  Speaker 2: exit interview with the psychologist, I was sitting at her desk,
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  Speaker 2: and she had like she had a whole all the
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  Speaker 2: cameras were on, so she was watching what was happening.
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  Speaker 1: She had like a bunch of them shows a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of times. Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: She was watching everything happened and listening to everything that
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  Speaker 2: we were saying, not just to the DS but everything
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  Speaker 2: that was recorded, so they know the psychologists are totally
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  Speaker 2: tuned in to what's happening on the show in real time.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, of course, and I think even just for
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  Speaker 1: liability's sake, that makes a ton of sense. But then
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  Speaker 1: the after care element of the show, I do think
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  Speaker 1: is it. I actually think I will because I have
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  Speaker 1: access to it, just reach out to the lady, because
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  Speaker 1: why not, Like therapy is expensive and if I can
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  Speaker 1: get some free therapy, Like I'm a good it, I'm got.
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  Speaker 2: To go call.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you one one little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a learning lesson that I've learned from this, and that
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  Speaker 2: is yes, one hundred percent, talk to the psychologist. But
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  Speaker 2: after I interviewed Rudy and Billy, I was like, everyone
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  Speaker 2: needs to talk to them to get some kind of closure.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's a way that you
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  Speaker 2: can reach out. I know Rudy is great, I know
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  Speaker 2: you have your You've talked to Q, like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like just call them up honestly or DM them
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  Speaker 2: and say, hey, could we have a conversation that's just
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  Speaker 2: you know, me to you and meet all the cast,
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  Speaker 2: like I feel like they need to build that into
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  Speaker 2: the show is for all of us to like, each
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  Speaker 2: person should have like a debriefing or whatever you want
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  Speaker 2: to call it after you're finished with the show and
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  Speaker 2: just connect with them, because it really, truly it felt
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  Speaker 2: like closure to me. I don't know. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. That's beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: And each of us had the person that came down
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  Speaker 1: on us the hardest. For me, it happened to be
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  Speaker 1: Billy and years was cute. And I know that you
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  Speaker 1: guys connected on the pod in another episode which you
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  Speaker 1: should go you should go listen to if you haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard it. Thanks Kirstie. Yeah, and it must have been.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how it was Bob there when you talked
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  Speaker 1: to Q, and was that cathartic.
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  Speaker 2: It was very cathartic. Bob was there and we just
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  Speaker 2: laughed a lot. And I feel like you know this
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  Speaker 2: laughter just helps with healing. I don't know, it's just magic.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like it was a great way to
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  Speaker 2: really see him as a human, you know, and not
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  Speaker 2: just not I know they're directing staff, that's what d
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  Speaker 2: S stands for, but everyone wants to call him drill sergeants.
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  Speaker 2: And that's kind of what he was at me, like,
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  Speaker 2: yelling at me, like a drill sergeant. So I could
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  Speaker 2: see him as a human more than a drill sergeant.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So the one thing that I will say that
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  Speaker 1: I felt like was a little tricky was that they
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  Speaker 1: actually re edited. Am I even allowed to say this? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, base, And it's not disparaging the show.
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  Speaker 1: It's the it's a it's a choice cut. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they do the most beautiful edits on these shows to
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  Speaker 1: keep people entertained. And you know, Day two, Kylo was
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: telling me, she's like, this is a TV show. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't like we're not actually doing this, this is this
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  Speaker 1: is a structured show for us, and so we and
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: so she was thinking of it in a different way,
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: and I was lost in the sauce I.
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  Speaker 3: Was really thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I was like in it, I don't know what I
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  Speaker 1: guess because my husband got to me. So when I
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  Speaker 1: watched it back this last episode, it shocked me that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my interrogation was about day three or four.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't remember, a lot of those days started
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  Speaker 1: to blur together, but it was early on that I
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  Speaker 1: had been interrogated, and so they had to re edit it.
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  Speaker 1: And so I understand the flow and you know, just
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  Speaker 1: production in general. But what I'll say is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was struggling without an interrogation, and the way that
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  Speaker 1: we had the edit delivered was such that it felt
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  Speaker 1: like they really encouraged me at like the last hour
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  Speaker 1: of my contribution in the show. And so that's cool, Like,
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't take offense to it, but it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is a lot of things really are out of sequence,
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  Speaker 1: and it's for this, and it's for the plot. It's
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  Speaker 1: for the storyline of like hey, Christy. Without Kyla, then
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  Speaker 1: I would naturally be the weakest person. Also I think
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  Speaker 1: oldest besides yeah, because Carrie's gone, so I was the
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  Speaker 1: oldest at forty standing there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So part of my reconciliation with how I left
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  Speaker 2: was that I missed the fight. Like obviously I missed
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  Speaker 2: all of this. But the next day is when you
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  Speaker 2: guys did the fighting and the submersion in the boat,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, well, thank god I didn't fight, because
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  Speaker 2: so many people broke noses, ribs, everything and had to leave,
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  Speaker 2: and that could have been me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, we could have thought, we could have
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  Speaker 1: thought each other.
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  Speaker 5: Sad.
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  Speaker 2: So what helps me reconcile my leaving also is that
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  Speaker 2: I got to miss out on that is any part
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  Speaker 2: of you thankful that you left when you did because
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  Speaker 2: of what they did after you left.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, I think mentally okay, So speaking
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  Speaker 1: of the therapy session out of you know, when you leave,
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  Speaker 1: I was and maybe he was just telling me what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to hear, but I just don't think the
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  Speaker 1: therapists need to do that to you. You know. At
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  Speaker 1: that point, he was very sweet and he was like, look,
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  Speaker 1: you know it was we were all kind of bummed
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  Speaker 1: in the Truman Show whatever room with all the TVs
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  Speaker 1: when he took your armband, and we really felt like,
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  Speaker 1: if you could somehow make it through today, that you
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  Speaker 1: would do really well with the mental stuff with interrogation.
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  Speaker 1: And who's to say that that is the case, because
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  Speaker 1: I look at it now, I'm like, oh man, Calorically,
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  Speaker 1: I was starving. I was also stressed. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you're like me, but I was not eating
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  Speaker 1: the little raw eggs and the whatever crap they were
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  Speaker 1: given to us. I was like, yeah, I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: just too nervous. I felt like a sitting duck. Regardless mentally,
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  Speaker 1: I was in it to win it, So I do
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  Speaker 1: think interrogation wise, I would have been like, do whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want to me, you know what I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just push it, push it out of my mind
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  Speaker 1: and keep going whatever. You know. I guess that's how
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling now. It was a finta pastic episode though,
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  Speaker 1: right Like it was fantastic, Like, honestly, so I was
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  Speaker 1: catching up on it right before this, and I had
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: it on the screen and Ryan was about to take
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  Speaker 1: CODEA for a walk and he was just.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Standing there with his AirPods in with his coat on,
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  Speaker 2: like he couldn't leave.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, this is so riveting. Yeah, this show you
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  Speaker 1: cannot look away from. You cannot look away from it
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  Speaker 1: once it's on.
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  Speaker 2: No, And honestly, like, there are just little things that
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: that I'm always blown away by that. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's funny. The bugs, did you see? I mean, how
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: could you not freaking see all of the bugs flying
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  Speaker 2: all over Billy and anyone who was ready during the
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  Speaker 2: breakman thing?
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  Speaker 1: No, I do. Oh, oh my god, Christy, they were
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  Speaker 1: so bad.
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  Speaker 2: So when we did the bridge the first day or
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  Speaker 2: the second day or whatever, the bugs were bad, but
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  Speaker 2: it hadn't just rained, and they weren't as bad as
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  Speaker 2: last night. You need to go back and see, like
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  Speaker 2: they are swarming all around them, and I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 2: my god, they're at the bottom waiting for waiting to
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  Speaker 2: break people and save their life essentially, and all these
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  Speaker 2: bugs are all around and I was like.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I would not have been able to focus on anything
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  Speaker 2: except the fact that bugs are like eating me alive.
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  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, absolutely, yeah. And I'm sure Billy didn't
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  Speaker 1: even blink because he's tough. No, he's blink at all.
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  Speaker 2: And Cam is like, you know, actually blinking and like
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep.
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  Speaker 1: Them out of his eyes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that was that was a freaky thing
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  Speaker 2: to me. Okay, let's go back to the first part
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: of the episode. So the first part of the episode.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Your rock is not or your burkin is not burkin, bergen,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: bergen whatever, it's yeah bergen.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Denise, Yeah, Denise called it a burkin.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I thought that it was hilarious. Let's call it a burgen.
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  Speaker 2: So it is.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Not full.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: So let's tell people what we had to what we
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: had to do with our Burgans to make sure that
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: they were ready.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: So they gave us sandbags, and they gave us a
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: pile of sand, but that pile of sand was outside,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and so it would get wet and you would essentially
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: locate the sand, put it in the bag, and then
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: stuff your bag so that it wouldquote unquote make weight.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: And that weight was I forget was it twenty twenty
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: pounds or no.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: The entirety five? What is it thirty? It was like
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: thirty thirty five? Okay, so that's what we well, thirty
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: five pounds, not kilograms or whatever.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: We Yeah, yeah, that also didn't help.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I think it was fifteen. It was fifteen kilograms. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: think I think fifteen was the number. Oh and I
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: just saw I wore this in honor of you.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: You still have it. I still have it. I proposed
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I know, so I told Christy I felt naked without
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: my ring. I didn't have my ring on because I
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: wear it every day. And Christy was like, oh.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I have an extra one.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Do you want one? She's like do you want light
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: pink or whatever? And I was like, well, duh, Pink's
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: my color. So I have your ring on. Thanks.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: So they didn't get that because I remember being like,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: will you take this ring? Because she was like a
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: bachelor throwback. I was trying to be cute. You got me, Yeah,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: thank you. I was so so sweet. I totally forgot
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: That was so fun, right, Okay, so I think it
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: was fifteen we had we had there was like a
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: little hanging scale thing you had to hang your ruck
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: on there and weigh it.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yep, it was all chaotic that day.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I felt like, did you have a chance to weigh
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: it or were you guys still like on top of
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: At that point, I think we did start to worry
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: about our appearance more because they said we needed to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: all be uniform. So in this episode you can actually
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: hear Carrie say jackets on because if one person was
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: going to have a jacket, everybody wanted a jacket, but
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: some of the guys were really hot in whatever they
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: had underneath, but we all decided for the women that
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: they would wear jackets. So on the last go we
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: all have the jackets and the hats so that we
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: could stay because we were like, somebody's gonna get wet,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: et cetera. So that became. You know, there's always so
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: many things that you have to think about in order
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to not to evade the DS and sort of hope
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that you don't get on their radar. And unfortunately, I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: was probably one of the most screw I hate to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: say anything definitive because then the internet is like, she's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: so impressed with herself. But the truth is is that
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't bring the thera gun, and I didn't stow
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like food or snacks, and I and Cam this is
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: not actually shown, but that's same day we got punished
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: again inside the barracks by Q, where we had to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: stand against the wall, bend and knee and he was
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: checking our our racks to see if we were storing
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: anything that wasn't approved, and so a lot of people
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: had things and Q actually read Golden's diary and they
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: kind of had it back and forth with that because
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: he had said some mean things about DS and his diary.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but he read the dot that doesn't seem well.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I think at that point with day seven, Day eight,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: they really are starting to it's a whole other level
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of show. It's not even the same show. It's like
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the first and sort of second part of it. And
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: so they it starts to get very personal. And from
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: what I know with the Hubsbyan who the vet of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the world, he's like they, if this was real, they'd
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: be screaming in your face all day long until you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: passed out, right. So this was nothing compared to what
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: would really happen. But Q really did give us a
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: taste of like you have to be to code, you know.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And so that same moment he hopped over to Cam,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: he hopped over to me. And I had nothing in
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: that was not approved by production because I just didn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: want to be the one. And sometimes i'd suffer, Like
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I'd look over at Alana and she had these beautiful
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: like face oils, and she'd be like rubbing her face
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, she looks so beautiful, and she'd like
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: put the same like a hoble oil or whatever like
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: on her hair and she looks pretty, and I was like,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and she's got this great butt, like if you look
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: at her Instagram.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I literally I think right after we were
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: allowed to start following each other. Yeah, I went, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: went on everyone's you know thing, and started following. And
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: the first thing I said to her was, oh my god,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: your ass is.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Her peach, her peach tush holes, her peach tush. Yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and she just like she I remember us changing because
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: we had to change in front of each other, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I was very shy, Like we're talking like I brought
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: like pea panties that literally went like down to almost
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: my knee, and I was just so nomous.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I'm very shy.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: My husband was like, make sure you don't get into
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: any weird situations with any of these, Like, yeah, do.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: You mean pea panties? What are pea plant got?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I literally, cause you know, we're moms. Like, I have
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a problem with this, and I'll
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: probably get it fixed or whatever, but it's been something
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: that I've always battled with, and you know, I was like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they're going to put us through,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: but if I have any like leaks or anything, like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be gross. Oh yeah, I also
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: had my period when we first got there. No, you
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: did not, Yep, I had my prien I thought about that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So I have not had a period since my daughter
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: was born because I had to have an oblasion. But
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I was wondering because you know how when women all
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: get together then they sync up, and I'm like, if
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: one person gets it, then probably everyone will. You had it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: A couple of us had it, and I won't say who,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: but a couple of us had it, and I just
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: so happened to have all the things. Like I was
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: like ready to go because I knew like clockwork, but
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: what was going to happen and how long? I thought
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: maybe the stress of me training and just being being
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: in a different country and time zone would would make
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it go away. I think I even spoke to the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: medical people prior and was like, hey, is there anything
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: we can take? And he's like, well, there is something
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: in the field that women take to make them not
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: have their period or something, and I was like really,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I said, no, I'll have it. It's fine, it is
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true true story. Like what did you do though?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Because when can you freaking change a DAMPI I.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Know, tell me about it, Tell me about it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: We all had to get very creative and then by
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of course, in a couple of days it was over.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that was not fun. I was like, I
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: was like hiding.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Tampons like in my bergen and in my pocket of
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: whatever I was wearing, and I was like handing them
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to other people.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Like here, do you want this?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Because I also didn't want to like blow their spot
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: up in front of these cameras. It was my first
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: reality show, totally, I was I thought I knew.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I thought I knew what I was doing.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: You did, Obviously you were good, So back to you.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Guys got punished for people stowing snacks and contraband. Essentially,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: it wasn't just that.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: My bag was overweight. It was also that he went
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: into the We were just messy all the way around.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: And the other thing about I'll say about the sand,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And this isn't to justify the error that I committed,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: so to speak, but you know, the sand when it's wet,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: it weighs heavier. When it dries totally lighter. So I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: actually do find it really interesting because I did fill
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: my bag pretty consistently when Carrie would go out and
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm like, I'm gonna do what carry does
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: because he knew what to do, and I would just
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: follow him around sometimes like a puppy dog.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: It was hard not to. I mean, the man just
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: knows what he's right.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: He's a leader, He's a natural leader.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That's a gem of a man. And it did break
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: my heart when when he got into it broke my.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Heart, I know, I literally was like, so when I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: interviewed DS Rudy and DS Billy, they said, you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: be proud of yourself. You left when you did. You
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: could have left like tripping over you know, like a chord,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: just doing it one of the tasks, but just tripping
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: over something like not even related to the task. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I remembered. I was like, oh my god, yes that's Carrie.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And it happened last night. I was like, Ryan, here
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: it comes. He's he's gonna fall, and he fell right then.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I felt horrible. And the fact that the four DS
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: walked into the medic room and said goodbye to him,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: that just I mean, that shows everybody that he really
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: was so respected and looked up to during that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Man the DS just got so I feel like it
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: must have pissed them off so much that me and
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Kyla didn't quit that night, and they were just like
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: God damn it, because then they're like, we lost Carrie
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and now we still got these two buffoons, as they
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: like to call us. I'm like, duping. I'm like, I'm
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: not leaving. Are you leaving? And She's like, I'm not
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: leaving right now. I'll leave tomorrow, but I'm not leaving now.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: And I was like yeah, yeah, me too, Yeah yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: oh okay.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So we talked about the okay, okay, your your bag,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: and then the fact that basically you guys were like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you know, chaotic.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And there was other reasons that we were punished. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: just want to make it clear that it wasn't exclusively
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: my bergin. And also, I don't know if you can tell,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: but nobody else saw me or even Kyla as the
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: weakest link. I mean, you got the strongest person there
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: cam talking to Kyla saying, baby, you got this, you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: just keep going. And then you've got him trying to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: support me. He was you didn't even see like he
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: took our bags and he did this, and especially when
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I was dealing with that rock, because there was some
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: times when he's like this isn't right. He said that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to me, He's like, this isn't right, and so he
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: would help me with the bags. The day I had
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the rock, there was actually a really funny moment it
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: did not get captured.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: When I had the rock in my bag and I looked.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: At Q before U gosh, it must have been once
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: we got up there for the.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: The line, the moving the line.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: The Tyroullian something Tyrolean traverse is what it's called, I think.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And I had the rock in my bag and I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: looked at Q and I he's he's obviously such a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: kidd and sometimes you'll catch them off guard because they're
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: so stoic and strong. But I'd like to I'd like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to try to catch them off guard at that point.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Uh And I said, uh I, uh, Staff, I have
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a name for my my rock because I I know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I knew that if they wanted to break me, I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: wanted to show them I still had a sense of humor.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I said, I have a name for my rock, Staff
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and he was like, what is it? Recruit and I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: was like, it's Dwayne the rock Bergen.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: No, I know what I'm getting you for your birthday
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: a little.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Or do you get me a rock with an eyebrow
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: on it?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is awesome.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I love the behind the scenes moments that we don't
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: get to see.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I think that's why it's fun to have the podcast
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and for you to be the right person. And you know,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Golden also has his podcast where he's he's coming at
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: it from an athletic perspective and it is so interesting.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Each person's experience of it is reflective. I think of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the conversations they have with Dyes, the reason they even
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: took the contract. Like I see Marion Jones and she's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: doing such a great job of, you know, proving why
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: she's her greatness is not questionable, you know, and how
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: she's survived through things and is on the other side,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and I really loved her. There were some people that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: really like you were the first person that really kind
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of messed with morale when you left. Marion was definitely
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: for the women, I would say when she left, I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: think we all felt that, and then when Carrie did,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it was like Jesus, what are we all gonna do now?
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: We kind of like you. The air in the room
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: was sucked out as soon as Carrie was like shaking
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: a week. It was like seeing your dad, like shaking
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: a week.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, your mentor like someone you look up to. I
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: mean he was. I know, everyone went to him with
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: questions and tried to garner that support from him, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you know, same thing I've talked about it, Cam was
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: that for me too. He was kind of like, I'm
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: going to carry your bag when he came back and
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: got me at the beach, when he was like, don't
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: you come and get her and he was like whatever,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go help her with her bag and get
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: her into this vehicle. So no, I'm so glad that
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: he continued to do that, and I assumed Golden too.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like it is such teamwork. That's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I love this part of the show and part of me.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Like before I went, I really wanted to make it
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: to the end, but also my I had little goals.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get to an interrogation. I wanted to
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: get to the point where you're writing the death letters.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I wanted to, you know, get to those little increments.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what made you want to get to interrogation? I'm curious,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: just why does everyone I mean, then to connect.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Just to connect. So connection to me is what Leffett
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: life is all about, and connecting with the DS. In
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: watching the previous seasons, I felt like the interrogation, not
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the interrogation, it's the mirror room, you know, interrogation to me.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: You did get interrogated, did you not.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I did get a mirror room. Yeah, they didn't show it,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: but I but I did get it. So I was
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: thankful for that because I know, like Ali didn't get one,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and I, well, I think everybody else did. But yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I was thankful for that because of that connection with
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the DS. They just get to know you on a
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: personal level and not like where they're looking like you're
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: not looking up at them or they're not looking down
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: at you. You're looking just across the table at each other,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: you know, as humans. So that's how I felt like
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the mirror room was.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: That's great, and you.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Had I'm thankful that they did show your mirror room.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: But you're right, like Kayla's mirror room was shown or
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: part of it was shown in the first episode. I
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: feel like, so the two hours, so I don't know
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: if it was actually the first or the second, but
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: when they show her coming back from her mirror room.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: My cot was already gone. If you notice, my cot
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: was gone, So that was definitely after I had left.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: She had her mirror room. So you're right, like, they
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: are definitely not showing you in order what's happening. So
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I like that you clarified that the mirror room that
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you that was shown for you was earlier on and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you didn't really have that.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Like support reportive dialogue. I did not.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I did not.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: In fact, like I was shocked after the coffin that
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: they didn't try to pull me in and be like, hey.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Like are you are you good? Because that was insane.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were crying the whole time, weren't you.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: So here's the thing, Actually, I wasn't crying.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: They looped. They looped a lot of that because I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: think I was singing the Bluey theme song pretty much.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, do you want to see.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: What I did? Maybe we could make this an asset.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, Oh my god, yes, I was like, mom oh
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: that's what I actually did.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So in Katrina, who was the producer, she said that
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: they were all texting each other and they're like, what
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: is she singing?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Because they don't have Bluey in the UK.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: In the UK and so so many goes. I think
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: it's the bluey theist.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what, I have a song,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: a song story, so before the show in a way
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: to prepare, like I thought, if I got to the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: torture end, like the end of it when they're torturing you,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, there's only so much you can like
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: talk to yourself in positive terms, the mantras, you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: the everything, And I was like, I need to have
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: a song that I can just sing on a loop
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to myself over and over again. Yep. And my song
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: was uh American pie.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good one. Mine was because I.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Know every word and like song so long.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Oh that's so smart. That's so smart. And we're and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: we're very aligned because mine was going to be, oh
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: my gosh, back to life, back to Reality. That was
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be mine in there, but it probably would have
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: ended up but it probably would have ended up being
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the blue theme song again.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: No, no, you.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Know how they asked us what our song would be
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: it like when we're entering the course, you know, like
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: exiting or whatever.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Yours should have like back to life.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Back to reality, Like you should have used that on
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a reel for for when you were finished with the show.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Exactly, that's amazing.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Exactly, And I posted, you know, I posted.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Our our back to life, back to reality with Kyla
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and I are little Oh you did, yes, our little
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: fun thing. And I don't know if I'm jumping ahead,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Sure we could talk about but it's fine.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, you know, I did think that
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: maybe they would check in with me after the coffin,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and so since they hadn't done that, and I don't
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: know what day that happened, but I think the day
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: before might have been the I don't even know honestly
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: what day that my teriation actually happened, but you know,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I was kind of kind of struggling. They were right
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: my head. My head might have been down. I can
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: see that. I was definitely kind of like when we
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: go on these missions, there's always an extra step that
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: they didn't explain to us, that's totally and so I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: started to really try to process on the go and
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: my face has no filter, and so I'm looking.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: At it and I'm like, oh, she's thinking hard.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yep, I could see it.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I could see it. I'm sure you were like, oh,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I know exactly what's going on in that girl's mind.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I was like, what are you doing?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yeap, yep, right, okay, So you have the rock, you
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: have to pick up the rock, you have to put
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: the rock in your backpack. And how much do you
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: you said it was probably like one hundred and fifty pounds.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, fifty or wait it was fifty pounds.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Fifty pounds.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I think the pound made my burgin fifty pounds.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: That is crazy, Yeah, that's crazy. I'm sorry.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: And I also picked up a rock that was too tiny,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and Q had me go get another rock that was
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: the right size. So they didn't show.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: That party the right size. Okay, so all of the
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: girls in going back to the recap, all of the
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: girls didn't. It didn't pass. I cannot find my words today.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: They didn't pass the Tyrolean like traverse thing. How are
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: you feeling doing that challenge? Like? Was it fun? Was
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: it scary? Was it something that you were excited to do?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I know that some of the things we've talked about,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: like you know, the helicopter, like it was exhilarating in
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a way. How are you feel with that challenge?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I had a lot of wins and I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: knew that, and then when they paired me up with Cam,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I thought that I was I thought I was in
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: good shape. Like I was like, Cam's got my back,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and he would talk to me and say, you know,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: get out of your head and just do it. And
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: so that's where I was at with it. He was like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: get out of your head and let's just do this.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: But the thing about this Trillian traverse or terrass, yeah,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: what is it traverse? Was that youse, you don't hook
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: your feet as tightly as you think you need to.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: So my leg got a massive bruise behind the knee
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: because I linked my my leg and I just because
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I thought when I watched Rudy that that he kind
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: of crossed the feet. But you really got to be
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: so almost like a ballet dancer when you're like gently
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: and gracefully going. So that was something that you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: experience would teach you. But uh, in terms of the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: women not being able to hold themselves up right like that,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I truly don't think women are built too unless are
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: fitness focused folks. I don't know anyone, any female on
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: our on our recruit team that could have even I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: know that Kayla is so so so so so so strong.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: But at that point, you know, you're you're pulling yourself
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and I assume there's some pulling involved, so your.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Hands have already got to be like.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: You know, so tired from pulling yourself across the rope.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: And I was saying to Ryan because he did Fear
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Factor back in the day and they did do like
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: a traverse like that. Oh they did, and they did,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: and he was like, that's really hard, and he's like
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: they have to go a really long way. He's like,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: on Fear Factor, we did like half of that or
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: a quarter of that. So I know that it's like
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: your hands like have got to be so tired and
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: then you have to hang afterwards. So yeah, I that
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: seemed really really hard to me, although from your couch,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I know for people it probably looked easier than it
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: actually is, which I think all of the things on
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Special Forces everything looks easier.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Wild. I've been getting some dms that I have not
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: warranted and had to block because there are people that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: are like you just were out of breath or you know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: you you it's just wild. I'm like, let's bury.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: You in the sad and see.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: How you're yeah right, Like so I'm really, I really am.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I'm really starting to look at this and say, life is.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: You look at it and at the tender age of
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: forty about to be forty one, I need to truly
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: practice that. And I was a reality show virgin and
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: this was such an eye opening experience. So there's so
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: many positives to take away from it. And it is
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: again like how you look at the experiences is how
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you will be able. And I remember they kept I
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: don't know if they told us this when you were there,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: but they were like, look around, like this is it's
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a great experience, like this is You're not going to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: get anything like this anywhere else.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: You're so right. I feel like that's spot on. What
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: have you learned? What have you taken away as your
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: favorite like lesson of it all?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I actually think that the biggest lesson that I'm
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: learning is right now, it's you know, how to put
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: something behind you, you know. I think one of the
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: things that I talked more Okay, first of all, I
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: don't think I talked about being a child actor as
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: much as the interviews and whatnot. Let On, I spoke
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: much more about my husband than the past life of mine.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: So it was really wild when it kept coming up,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, no, people are going to
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: think this is all I talk about, But there is
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: something to say where it's like the focus in your
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: life should just be on the present and and and
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: staying focused on your journey and really taking it seriously
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: because you have one life and you can stay present
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: to do that, or even as challenging like in being sober,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: which I don't mind talking about, it's like you have
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to stay committed to that. That's a daily thing. But
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: it's not just enough to not do that. There's so
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: much more that you can commit to yourself to stay
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: present and to keep growing and keep pushing yourself. And
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people that's really hard, you know.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: And so in some ways it's just great to do
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: crazy stuff like this to show us that we can
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: still do hard things even though we're like moms and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you know, getting older, and.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: It gives you such perspective. Like my favorite lesson out
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: of all of this is that I came back with
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: such a greater appreciation for my life, feeling like I'm
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: really lucky, you know, like I thankfully live in a
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: country where there are people who sacrifice their lives for
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: our freedom, and I can I can live kind of
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: in a state of bliss that maybe I wouldn't be
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: able to if I had been born in the Middle
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: East or something, you know. So I just kind I
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: came home with a greater appreciation for my life and
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a perspective.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, that was that's dead on. I mean I think.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: That she definitely have a deeper appreciation.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And the truth is, even when i've and it's been
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: since May, so there's been stages, like you said, of
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: the grief of like, you know, there's been times when
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: maybe I was too upset about something and my husband's like,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: look that was like eight days of your life. I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: did it for four years. There's people who do it
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: for so long. I mean, I remember Q saying that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: he Bud's training was one hundred like a whole year,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: he said. And so these people aren't getting paid a
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: lot of money. You know, we got paid very well
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: to be on the show. And it's like you got
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to be so grateful, you got to be so grateful
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: for all of it, right, and so yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it was totally.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I still couldn't believe I did it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I was watching it last night. I was like, what
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: did I do? Why did I do this? Why? Why
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: were we so crazy? I know, what the heck is
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: wrong with us? Yeah? I was looking at it like
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: at one point and I was just like, what, I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: don't And it wasn't even the mud.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: It might have been like.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I think it was actually after I got eliminated, and
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: then I saw people fling each other over each other's bodies,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: and then I was like, this is a crazy show.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Like the fact that Golden was collapsing with Cam on
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: his back. I was like, I was trying to think
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: if I had still been there, who they would have
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: made me, Carrie, because they totally would have made the
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: little people if you or me or Kyla or Denise
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: were still there or Ali, and Ali could have done
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: it because she freaking was a beast and was training
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: like up to you know, we left like crazy. But
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, who would they have made me carry?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Because I'm flashing back to Jojo Siwa, Oh yeah, hearing
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: was it Body Miller or Tom Sandivil? She was carrying
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Tom Sandoval, Like, I was flashing back to that and
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: how much respect I gained just in that instant of
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: watching her for her, like, what how is she carrying
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: a full grown man on her back? You know?
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Jojo was a very solidly built person with a lot
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: of gymnastic experience and yeah, and has the kind of
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: strength that like Kayla has. So I think that if look,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: if I was to, if anybody would say, hey, what
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: advice would you give somebody that wants to be on
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the show, I'd be like, if you want to be
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: on the show, start training now. If you know that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: you have an agent, you're like, my agent's gonna pitch
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: me for this, But because I really want to be
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: in it, just start training now. Don't wait till you hear,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: don't wait till anything like, because then at least you
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: know that you've committed from the moment that you decided.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: You know, people might be watching, and it can't hurt No, Like,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: the training is not gonna hurt you. It's gonna help you.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: You're gonna be healthy, healthy, healthier for it, So why
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: not just train? Yeah?
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I wish I wish I didn't.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Have my superstitious tendencies because I stopped working out.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I stopped freaking training.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Because I thought I wasn't gonna be on the show
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: because I was like, oh, I'm gonna test fate and
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep working out and they're gonna say no,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be working out for no reason. I
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: mean not really, it's not no reason because I was
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: doing it for myself.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Your hypothermia would not have out. It didn't matter if
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: you would have oh you know what I mean, like, yeah, that's.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Temperature wise, there's yeah, definitely no way that would have
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: been well.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't for me. It wasn't just the hypothermia.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: It was the in between tasks where we were running
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: everywhere with our packs on our back, and I just
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: couldn't handle it. Like I am watching the what did
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you call it, the seals hike or the going where
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: you I think where they took your arm.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I think it was called the seals Hike. Seals Hike.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I kept watching that thinking that is my
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: worst nightmare, Like I and then carrying people like and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: then throwing the bugs, I don't know, the bucks.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: I'm done, done, done, that's it done.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I would have handed it over. It's so funny. Again.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I have a funny story about my husband and when
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: he was when he was in he actually has a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: now has a massive fear of spiders, which Alana mentions
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: when she's using the bathroom. My husband, I think he
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: was in twenty nine Palms or I was stationed and
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: they were digging in so they like dig into the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: sand on an exercise. It was in Camp Pedalton. Okay,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: he just said Camp Pedalton. He's my fact checker.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: He dug into the desert and they had to sleep
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: there overnight, but they dug into a tarantula breeding ground
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: which activated at night. So in the middle of the night,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: all these marines, young marines start screaming because their body
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: parts are being nibbled and they all have to strip naked.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Tarantula's nonetheless like not to spiders, tarantulism chomping them and
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: then they have to strip naked just to get them off,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: and they're screaming.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: So I was like he had there are some funny
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: stories that come out of that's not funny.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: That is not funny, you know.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: I think like these guys.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Have really dark senses of humor for that reason because
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: they go through it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Oh well, no kidding, you have to, I mean and
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the fact you said that Alana was scared of the spider,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I felt like she wasn't. If that spider had been
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: on my butt, I would have been screaming.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I would have run.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Out of that toilet without my clothes on. She was
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: just like, oh, there was a spider on my butt.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what hell are you?
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: So calm? She's really calm. She's a really lovely so
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I love her.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I love her. I reached out to her after I
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: finished the episode and just said, you are freaking crushing it.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: She is an inspiration to all of the moms out there,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: like all of the moms who have young kids. Yep.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: She was freaking.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Carrying her both of her babies doing hikes like all
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: of us should just be like bowing down to her
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: as moms and being like, yeah, we're going to be
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: like you, or we're gonna try because that is such
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: an inspiration.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: She's just I mean, I didn't realize how strong she
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: was because no kids. When we did the gas thing,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: and she she gets very scared, and so there was
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: times when I was like, girl, you're not leaving, You're
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: not leaving, like you gotta stay. But when it came
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to the certain types of training things. She really nailed it.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: And when I saw her going up, I was like,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: that's why she's able to stay. She's meant to stay.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: She's not ready to leave. Yeah, so we'll see, right, No.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Spoilers, Yeah, no spoilers. She's still there thanks to Kyla.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like Kyla was like, don't you leave me.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: You're not leaving me. I know.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Kayla didn't want to be the only girl. She was like,
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: don't leave me with these men, right, I just lost
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: to girls. I don't need you gone to.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we have to wrap soon. But I
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: do want to touch on your mirror room interview and
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: how you talked about your mom and having to let
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: her go as you as your manager. How are things
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: now between do you know mom and your family?
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: So, my mom has been obviously so supportive.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: My mom is my number one fan.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: She like, you know, I'm writing a memoir right now,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: and yeah, there's a lot of things that I'd like
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: to kind of dig into, so I need to be
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: chronologically accurate. She always brings over too much stuff. She's
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: hoarded all this stuff, these playbills, these pictures, and she
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: brought a box of Kodak images last night for me
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: to like go through and I know that to put
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the kids down and then we're gonna start watching this.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: And I had texted her. I texted her before I said, Mom,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: we talk about you in tonight's episode. She's like, Okay,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: we'll deal with it when I get there, right, And
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I'm looking through all the images and I realize, you know,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: she's just always been there for me, even if we
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: had these hard times. As many people who grow up
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: in this business do a lot. Most people don't talk
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: about it. Most people don't talk about their stage parent
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: being you know, complex or complicated. I know, so meant actually,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: three quarters, if not ninety five percent of stage parents
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: make mistakes in ways that can range from really super
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: abusive to just general mistakes like oh I financially didn't
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: set you up. I'm so sorry, but then you can't
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: get those years back right. So I felt like I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: was very authentic in the mirror room. I felt like
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I was very respectful of what happened between me and
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: my mom, and she sat there with me and we
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: watched the together, and I looked at her, and my
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: husband was nice enough to be taking care of the girls.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I said, Mom, what are you thinking right now? And
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, She's like, it's it's true. That
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is what happened. That's true. And it's weird. It's almost
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: like my mom was there with me and going through
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: you know, she sees your little girl going through this
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: crazy experience and you can be rooting for her, but
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you're really a piece of you is there. So it
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: was really it was really touching to see her take
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: accountability too and just be like, it's all good, and
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll check in with her.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I'll call my mom after this. Okay, trist Die, see
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: what you're doing.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: You will, yes, you look, she lives here. She lives here.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: She lives close to me in Texas, and I take
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: care of her and I love her and I take
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: her to her surgeries, and you know, it's like she
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: just wants to be a part of my life. And
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: it was really only one year that I hadn't take
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the break, and I think that was the healthiest thing
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: for me. But there's a whole bunch of other stuff
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you go through after you leave your parents house, right
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: like you become this adult. I just was a little
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: delayed and ended up just not not, and he you
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: know what, Foxy, God bless him.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: He got it.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: He was like this autonomy thing, you wanted it and
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: then you didn't know what.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: To do with it. And then I got really emotional.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's really introspective. Like it's true, I
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: would assume and so hard. Like I feel like we
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: hear stories about child actors who just go down really
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: bad paths, you know, just for whatever reason. And thank God,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you came out on the other side of
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: it and got to do special Forces and holy challenge
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: yourself and be crazy.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: There.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, there's three dimensions to everyone.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: That is true. And I think that's why I did
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the show, was just to kind of show people like, hey,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: like I may have talked about this in the past
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: and this may be how you know me, but like
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I'm a full other person too, And I still can't
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: believe I did this show. I know, it's so weird.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Literally, Okay, I'm gonna end on this. But so the
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: almost famous podcast with Ben and Ashley is you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: we're kind of the not the sidekick, the spinoff of that, Okay,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: and well, I guess you could call us a sidekick,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: and they just had Wells Adams who was on Traders.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: He's part of Bachelor Nation and he was on Traders,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: and they were talking about Special Forces because Ashley predicted
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: that I was going to be on this season. She
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: said it to me so long before they even asked me,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: and so they started talking about how Ashley thinks that
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Ben is going to be asked next, and Wells was like,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: don't do it, dude, don't do it. Just do Traders.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: That show is crazy, and I'm like, no kidding, it
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: really is. What were we thinking.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: That's so funny? Would you do Traders? Trista totally. I
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: love to do that show. You heard it, honestly, you know.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like the camaraderie that there was, and that's
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: kind of part of me is the fomo of missing
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: out on the bonding that you guys did after I
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: left and then what they're still doing like I love,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: I love. Like I said in the beginning of this
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: podcast is connection. It just means everything to me. And
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: so for that reason, I would love to do Traders.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I love to travel. Why not go live in a
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: castle in Scotland and meet all kinds of fun people
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: that I never would have before. So yeah, sign me
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: up for Traders? Love it anyway?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Would you do it? I don't know about reality. I
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's the best look for me. I
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: don't know you're done. I don't know I'm done. You
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: got to give me a few days, you know, we'll see.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I think I really love hosting. I will tell you
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that much. I love hosting. And I'm pretty sure I
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: want to go back to doing theater. And because I
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: think I just want to, like re like, I want
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: to fall back in love with with with what I'm
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: good at, my skills, and kind of like the theater
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: is that and it always has been for me, so
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I should do it. And maybe that's part of what
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: all this is is just what are you doing after this?
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: You know, rather than like, you know, book another movie,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: book another whatever, shoot another campaign. It's like, no, like
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: meaningful amount of your life? What do you what are
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you bringing meaning to it? Did that make sense? Yeah,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Jesus one hundred percent.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's part of why I went I
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: wanted to know what my purpose was other than being
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: a mom, Like I love being a mom. I will
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: continue to be a mom, but I think that's what
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: I went into it. For so I do have to wrap.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. We could talk forever now and ever
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: will We'll keep texting me so much. Well, duh, and
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: thank you Christy for coming on the almost famous og pad.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I hope everyone will continue to watch Special Forces on
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Fox on Wednesday nights. Next week will be I feel
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: like the finale and then it will air on Hulu afterwards,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: and then they'll show our reunion.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: That's right, well, we'll be read.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: We should do something.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: You and I should do something on live, like we
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: could be live with each other.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: That would be kind of fun.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Oh love, I love that. YT's do it. Let's text
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the week chat. We're gonna text the group chat. You're
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: hearing it here. First text the group chat and try
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: to see how many people we could admit into the
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: live while doing it, and we'll host so fun. Okay, oh,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks for coming.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: All right, bye, We'll love bye