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Colt Keith Is Detroit's Best Value · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: karens Deckley with me as always as a man who
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  Speaker 1: would gladly donate his hamsterring to Dak Prescott. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: he is, Cody Stavedhagen.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing? Oh? Doing all right? It's quickly become
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  Speaker 2: a depressing football season for me between the esteemed Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: State Cowboys and the Dallas Cowboys. So I hope all
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  Speaker 2: you Lions fans out there are enjoying this. I might
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  Speaker 2: convert over to Lionsism for the rest of this season.
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  Speaker 2: Here there you go.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if the people think that's a good or
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  Speaker 1: a bad thing. Onto some good stuff, some award news, Cody,
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  Speaker 1: We'll we'll get the easy one out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: School Bull if you ever heard of him. He was
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  Speaker 1: named Tiger of the Year by the Detroit chapter of
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  Speaker 1: the Baseball Writers Association of America. That is, of course
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  Speaker 1: something that you are a part of, and he was
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  Speaker 1: a unanimous selection. So I would say, reveal your ballot,
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  Speaker 1: But it seems pretty seems it seems pretty straightforward. There
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  Speaker 1: was that one of your easiest because you do have
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  Speaker 1: other awards that you vote on both, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: the team and then nationally. Was that one of your
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  Speaker 1: easier and you just vote in a presidential election, no politics,
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  Speaker 1: but the voting did just happen. So was that the
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  Speaker 1: easiest vote you've had this fall?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Easiest, easiest this fall and easiest in my short history
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  Speaker 2: voting for a Tiger of the Year as well. I
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  Speaker 2: mean there's been a couple of years where it's fairly
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  Speaker 2: clear cut, but none quite like this. Like last season
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  Speaker 2: was hard. It was like I no one quite stood out.
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  Speaker 2: Probably the best player was Eduardo Rodriguez, but he was
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  Speaker 2: heard in this time and then once and has good
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  Speaker 2: in the second half. So you know, people voted for
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  Speaker 2: Spencer Porkles in last year, which we talked about before.
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  Speaker 2: I did not vote for fork last year, but this
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  Speaker 2: year you send one. So it was like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: one is Scooble. Two not very hard either, Riley Green,
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  Speaker 2: all right, we're done here. And I think I was
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  Speaker 2: happiest that Schooble was a unanimous selection, because there have
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  Speaker 2: also been some wonky votes from the Detroit BBWA chapter.
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  Speaker 2: We could see over the years Michael Cabrera get some
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  Speaker 2: random like honorary vote and just kind of some strange
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  Speaker 2: stuff I think pop out, you know, because this chapter
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  Speaker 2: it does include the core beat writers, but you also
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  Speaker 2: got like Mitch Album is still part of the chapter,
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  Speaker 2: and like some old heads you know, who I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: are very respected writers but haven't covered a Major League
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  Speaker 2: baseball game in like fifteen twenty years. So I'm a
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  Speaker 2: little bit sensitive about how this award gets voted on.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes I was very pleased to see no one overthought it,
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  Speaker 2: no one got cute schooble unanimous selection.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was you know sometimes every now
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  Speaker 1: and then you get those people that's like, well I'm
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  Speaker 1: just always gonna go with like a positional player, right right,
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  Speaker 1: that can happen, yeah, and you just have one vote.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's only one guy who's been
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  Speaker 1: unanimous right in the Hall of Fame, right, so, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you just get you just you know, it happens,
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  Speaker 1: you know, So like I was kind of curious whether
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  Speaker 1: that would be the case. It was not. That's okay, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: but it did get me thinking, you know, because we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be talking about school bl here uh next week
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  Speaker 1: sometime and uh for a much bigger award. And Scott
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  Speaker 1: Harris talked about it this past week in San Antonio
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  Speaker 1: for GM meetings, the school Lil extension thing. So should
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  Speaker 1: they sign Schooble to an extension? That's not necessarily where
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  Speaker 1: I want to go right now. What I want to
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  Speaker 1: say is where is the higher motivation for a school
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  Speaker 1: bol extension? Because I think both sides have compelling arguments.
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  Speaker 1: For either side Number one Tigers, this it would be
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  Speaker 1: a great kind of like propelling the momentum of the
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  Speaker 1: season into next season. You have your face of the
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  Speaker 1: franchise locked up for you know, however many years. But
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  Speaker 1: then there's also injury risk and uh and he and
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  Speaker 1: he's already kind of gone through it in his time
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  Speaker 1: in the Major League. So like you know that that's obvious,
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  Speaker 1: that's obvious for.
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  Speaker 2: School Bul you have had injuries.
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  Speaker 1: So this makes this this set sets you up for life,
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  Speaker 1: This sets you up for life. Getting the extension that
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  Speaker 1: he would be you know, eligible for for is the
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  Speaker 1: wrong phrasing, but you know that he would garner and
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  Speaker 1: that would be great. However, you know, to use an
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  Speaker 1: economic term price is always gonna go up, so like
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  Speaker 1: he is, technically he could be quote losing money. Now,
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  Speaker 1: no one's gonna cry about it, but he would be
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  Speaker 1: tenerally losing money if he didn't go another year that
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  Speaker 1: when he was dominant, you know, even like go into
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  Speaker 1: his contract year. Basically like his price should he maintain health,
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  Speaker 1: will only go up. So I was kind of curious
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts about, like, not necessarily should they agree to it,
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  Speaker 1: because we could talk about that hypothetical for ever. But
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  Speaker 1: who has the larger motivation to try to do something
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  Speaker 1: like that this offseason?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the comments came out from Scott Boris
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  Speaker 2: r GM meetings as well, and it's kind of like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we'll maybe talk about that, like seemed very
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  Speaker 2: you know, noncommittal. I think if one party is more motivated,
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  Speaker 2: it has to be the Detroit Tigers, And the arguments
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  Speaker 2: are there for maybe reasons schoogle should be interested in this,
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  Speaker 2: But again, Boris is not a risk averse agent. He
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  Speaker 2: is not seeing the world so much in like what
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  Speaker 2: if he gets hurt? He is most likely advising Schooble
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  Speaker 2: how much higher the ceiling for any potential deal could
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  Speaker 2: be if he wins back to backscy Young, three cy
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  Speaker 2: youngs in a row, like he is playing for the ceiling,
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  Speaker 2: and which sets the market then for all of Scott
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  Speaker 2: Boris's other players and players in the rest of the league.
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  Speaker 2: That is a very intentional thing for the Tigers. We
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  Speaker 2: still don't know for sure. I mean, Scott Harris has
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  Speaker 2: kind of been like, oh, yeah, we want to you know,
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  Speaker 2: keep young talent or whatever, but he hasn't been super
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  Speaker 2: forthright on this topic either. We don't know for sure
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  Speaker 2: that the Tigers are comfortable extending any pitcher seven, eight, nine,
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  Speaker 2: ten years because the inherent risk that comes with that too.
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  Speaker 2: But if I had to choose one party, I'm choosing
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  Speaker 2: the Tigers because how many more teams were as dependent
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  Speaker 2: on one player as the Detroit Tigers and a pitcher
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  Speaker 2: who only throws ones every five days. But in terms
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  Speaker 2: of singular importance to a team this past season, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'd say Bobby Witt junior with the Royals, and there's
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  Speaker 2: not a ton else coming to mind. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: Tigers like need Scooble, and although they do have other
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  Speaker 2: young talent and the organization is in a good spot
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  Speaker 2: and producing more talent, like their success right now is
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  Speaker 2: still very dependent on him and his presence and his health.
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  Speaker 2: And so if I have to choose one, I think
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  Speaker 2: the Tigers will have more incentive to do a deal here.
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  Speaker 1: And as I often do, I remind people of players' ages.
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  Speaker 1: And he is about to turn twenty eight years old. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's about to turn twenty eight years old. So wherever
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  Speaker 1: that's worth, you would like to think that he's one
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  Speaker 1: of the guys that you would like to bet on
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  Speaker 1: to make that extension you know, worth it or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But it's baseball, it's pitchers. I think you bring up
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  Speaker 1: a great point in the sense that we have no
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  Speaker 1: idea whether they think this is it's a needed deal,
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  Speaker 1: like they'd be in the Tigers organization like they could
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  Speaker 1: you know, they could very well raise this, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, just be like like, all right, we
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  Speaker 1: max out this asset and we're gonna move on and
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  Speaker 1: use these other assets and you know, rinse and repeat,
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  Speaker 1: like for all we know. That could be a thing.
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  Speaker 1: So from a fans point of view, you want to
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  Speaker 1: have guys like Schoolble locked up for a long time
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  Speaker 1: and and make them sort of the face of your
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  Speaker 1: franchise and a guy that's gonna represent your franchise on
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  Speaker 1: like promotional materials all star games and video games and
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But Scott Harris has kept basically
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  Speaker 1: everything including this like close to the best. And and
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  Speaker 1: I will say congrats to the national media that are
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  Speaker 1: interviewing Scott Harris probably for the first or second time
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  Speaker 1: and having it to deal with his non committal nature.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's how he's It's not personal. We had him
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast too, and uh and and he was
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  Speaker 1: like that, and Cody talked to him several times and
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  Speaker 1: and he's like that. Then, I mean, that's that's how
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna operate. He's never gonna try to put himself
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  Speaker 1: in a corner verbally like that, don't like that. Whatever,
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  Speaker 1: that's how he's gonna be. So I think I think
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  Speaker 1: if this was a Mike Illich team, he would be
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  Speaker 1: extended because Mike tended it to value like sort of
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  Speaker 1: that's those sentimental reasons that we said, like, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: why sign somebody for better or for worse? But that
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  Speaker 1: was kind of how he operated. Again, we also don't
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  Speaker 1: know how Chris views stuff like this because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about so much uncharted territory with this franchise.
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  Speaker 1: You know Chris. Chris is like that as well, so
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  Speaker 1: very fascinating. I would be curious, but people think you
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  Speaker 1: Where is the greater motivation for the Tigers to or
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  Speaker 1: or for a potential extension between the Tigers and school.
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  Speaker 1: Moving on to another award season special, the Tigers had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for a team that had the reputation of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they have no bats and they're you know,
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  Speaker 1: this hokey pitching bullpen day stuff with one good pitcher
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  Speaker 1: school ball thing. Tigers had two nominations for the Silver Slugger,
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  Speaker 1: so that would be Riley Green and Colt Keith. Riley
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  Speaker 1: Green continues to earn the accolades that will kind of
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  Speaker 1: get him into, you know, like higher conversation. I talked
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  Speaker 1: about that from the first time technically that was part
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  Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory network with AJ and Eric were
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  Speaker 1: basically being like, like, this guy needs to be considered
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  Speaker 1: at a higher level. This would be an example of
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  Speaker 1: that that will get announced here in a couple of days,
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  Speaker 1: but cold Keith Cody cold Keith a Silver Slugger nomination.
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  Speaker 1: Second base is different from the outfield. But what did
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  Speaker 1: either one of those nominations give you a little bit more?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say surprised, because they obviously had
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  Speaker 1: good seasons, but sort of like, oh, because for me
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  Speaker 1: it was Keith, I was like, oh, okay, but outfield's
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  Speaker 1: pretty deep, so like you know, Green get in there
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  Speaker 1: is obviously a great honor as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was definitely surprised that cold Keith was nominated,
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  Speaker 2: not that he had a poor season or anything. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he had the rough start and then performed pretty well
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  Speaker 2: after that, although at some point we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: talk about his slow finish to the season because he
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  Speaker 2: really seemed to hit a wall there. But just then,
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  Speaker 2: you look at American League second basement and it's not
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  Speaker 2: hard to be reminded that they're not a ton of
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  Speaker 2: great candidates. You know, there's jose L Tuvey, and there's
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  Speaker 2: Marcus Simeon, who had a down year, And then if
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  Speaker 2: you start looking for a third, you could dock yourself
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  Speaker 2: into Glabor torrez or Andresaminez or Michael Massey, and it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: Colt has as good of a resume if we're a
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  Speaker 2: Silver Slugger as any of them, which really speaks to,
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  Speaker 2: I think the weakness of the second base position in
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  Speaker 2: the American League. Look, and Colt's not gonna win it
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  Speaker 2: this year, but definitely makes you think, Okay, if he
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  Speaker 2: can stick at second base, if he can build on
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  Speaker 2: the defensive improvements we saw later in the season, he
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  Speaker 2: could certainly win this award in the future. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a prize he got this nomination, but it does
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  Speaker 2: kind of remind you of one of the reasons probably
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  Speaker 2: why the Tigers have seemed intent on him remaining at
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  Speaker 2: second base. He could be a perennial Silver Slugger winner,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And if he plays even league slightly below
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  Speaker 2: average defense, I mean, he could be a four plus
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  Speaker 2: win player. This is just one more kind of insight
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  Speaker 2: and be like, oh, yeah, like, I guess maybe their
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  Speaker 2: line of thinking does make some level of sense in
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  Speaker 2: that regard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And sticking with Keith here for a second, because
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  Speaker 1: I think we all know Riley Green's credentials and and
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  Speaker 1: his potential, and how I don't think twenty four home
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  Speaker 1: runs is his ceiling with Cole Keith. What was it
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  Speaker 1: like forty something games that he went like before he
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  Speaker 1: hit his first career home run something like that, And
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  Speaker 1: you know, you say, he kind of you know, hit
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  Speaker 1: a wall there, which is true, but then you look
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  Speaker 1: at the macro. He was two seventy two batting average
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  Speaker 1: over his last one hundred and two games, So like,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's pretty good. This is a guy who had
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  Speaker 1: I would say, like, uh, about as full a rookie
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  Speaker 1: year as somebody could possibly have. You started out with
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  Speaker 1: the extension, You made your major league debut, You're you know,
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  Speaker 1: playing a I don't want to say new position, but
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  Speaker 1: a you're committed to a position for the first time
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  Speaker 1: over there at second base. You you know, work very
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  Speaker 1: hard about changing your body. You go through rookie struggles,
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  Speaker 1: there's people calling for whether you should be sent down,
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  Speaker 1: and then you kind of kick it in the gear.
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  Speaker 1: You help this team. Because I was reading the quote
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  Speaker 1: from his contract extension press release, he's like, I want
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  Speaker 1: to be the best player I can be and help
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers win a World Series, which is obviously cliche
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  Speaker 1: as cliche goes, right, However, that was like, if you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to say, is he on track for that. Technically,
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  Speaker 1: you would have to say yes, because he was a
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  Speaker 1: Silver Slugger nominee made some impressive plays at second mase.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't come without his struggles, but there were some
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  Speaker 1: there were times where I was like, all right, Keith,
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  Speaker 1: I think he did get better over the course of
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  Speaker 1: the year. Defensively, I thought his hands got better at
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  Speaker 1: the turn over the course of the year, and then
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  Speaker 1: he helped the team make it to the second round
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  Speaker 1: of the playoffs within you know, like what seven eight
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  Speaker 1: outs or whatever of the alcs. So it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of on the right track. But it brings me
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  Speaker 1: to the contract because it's been a while, Cody, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know when the last time you looked at
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  Speaker 1: it is, but it's been a while since. I like,
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  Speaker 1: really like looked at the contract extension that he signed
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  Speaker 1: in January, and I was I was looking at I
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  Speaker 1: was like, man, I mean, good on him. He got cash.
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  Speaker 1: But now we're looking at you know, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to be on pace guy on pace guys like he's
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  Speaker 1: looking to be one of the better bargains in baseball
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  Speaker 1: because in twenty twenty five he's gonna make three point
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  Speaker 1: five million dollars. Then it's four million, then it's four
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  Speaker 1: million again, that it's five million, that it's five million again,
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  Speaker 1: and now we're to twenty thirty, and then it's ten million,
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  Speaker 1: thirteen million, fifteen million, with some incentives that will be
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  Speaker 1: kicked back there if I read this correctly, kicked back
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  Speaker 1: at the end there. So he's not making more than
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  Speaker 1: five million dollars in a season until twenty thirty, twenty thirty,
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  Speaker 1: and at that time he's going to he's twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: years old. Those are like, I think we could probably
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  Speaker 1: say this, this is already looking like a bargain.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah, I mean I thought it
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  Speaker 2: would always look like a bargain, and now that we've
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  Speaker 2: seen a full year of Keith in the big leagues,
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  Speaker 2: it definitely looks like a bargain. You know, Fangrafts has
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  Speaker 2: a dollar per war metric one win above replacement on
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  Speaker 2: the open market is still worth roughly eight million dollars,
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  Speaker 2: So according to Fangrafts, col Keith was worth fourteen point
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  Speaker 2: four million this past season. That's playing poor defense for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the year, depending on your metric of choice,
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  Speaker 2: and really struggling for his first month plus in the
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  Speaker 2: big leagues. He's worth fourteen point four million dollars. Now
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  Speaker 2: important to remember, if col Keith hadn't signed this deal,
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  Speaker 2: he would be making the league minimum for you know,
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  Speaker 2: last year in the next two years as he was
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  Speaker 2: pre armed. So he's getting more money in his pockets.
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  Speaker 2: But it does remind you in theory his value is
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  Speaker 2: only going to rise over the next few years. There's
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  Speaker 2: some security in the contray in the years, like what
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  Speaker 2: if he gets hurt, what if he moves to first
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  Speaker 2: base and the bat doesn't quite fully play there, Like
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  Speaker 2: maybe he's not going to be this thirty million dollar
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: player in the contract does kind of account for that.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: At the same time, I always felt this is a
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: contract just kind of there's a very limited ceiling on that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Like I don't blame Colte for taking his money and
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: taking the security, but I think, especially maybe those option
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: years at the back end, like I would have wanted
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: to see a higher aav there. On the end of that,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: there's a guy who's not not only is he not
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: going to make more than ten million, he's not going
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: to make more than what fifteen million. Ever, like under
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the terms of this deal, and if you are a
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: subscriber to you know, dollars per war. He's already worth
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: almost fifteen million, starting to look like a great play
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: from the Tigers. And you know, I always said this,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I'm sure cold Keith was happy the day he signed
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: that contract. How long until he starts thinking like, oh
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: h m, you know so and so is making this,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and so and so is making this and I'm only
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: making this. I mean, I think a lot of people
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: do that in their jobs. Right, You sign a contract
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and you feel good about it, and then you start thinking, oh, well,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: what if I would have asked for X or you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you start looking around the office and you think, oh,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that person makes more than me, Like, hm, I don't
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: know about that, And you definitely do wonder if Cole
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Keith will feel that way in a couple of years.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Do you have a grasp of his like what kind
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of player he like projects to be? Because again, like
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you look at you look at his numbers this year
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he's a silver slug or nominee nominee, So like we
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: understand that we're talking about that. However, like it is
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: second base and it seems like he's still a guy
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that we're gonna be looking for where's his actual real fit?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Uh in the field, because like I said, he was,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: he was a prep third baseman, he played both, you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: coming up he ends up at second base. There's always
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the can anybody you know, is you know anybody gonna
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: play first base? Is anybody gonna be a valuable first baseman?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I should say, I think at certain points some people
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: have been like, is he maybe better in a corner outfield? Uh?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I think there's some arm concerns there, shoulder concerns.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing the outfield anytime soon.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly. So it got me thinking a little bit.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, he did make twelve starts
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: at d H this year. Uh, Like is is are
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: we looking like at like a twenty eight like when
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: he's twenty eight, when he's twenty seven, are we looking
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: at maybe he's like a you know, you would think
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: hopefully he'd have to get better, but a matching DH
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: type left handed, because again, like the salary is still
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be to to the what you would pay
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: for your for a d H at that time. Outside
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: of these you know, higher or higher hiring guys that
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: are super expensive. The Tigers never going after all, So uh,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: so like it like where is his place? Because I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: was looking at I was like, what if he just
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: becomes a DH and you're still not paying him all
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that much. I don't know. I was just kind of
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: kicking around theories. Four years from now they're gonna they
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: are completely valueless.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot to speculate on. If col Keith
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: is what Cole Keith. We don't know a J. Hinches contract,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: but I think cold Keith is going to slightly outdo
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: him there. But as long as aj Hinges the manager,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be such thing as
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the DH. I don't know. People in the Tigers and
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the Tiger's front office right now already believe in his
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: defense at second. I think he's probably eventually a better
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: fit at first. But whatever, they're gonna make the do
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: the second base thing, probably for as long as they can,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and then then we're talking three four years out, who
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: knows what the state of the organization is. I'm just
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: gonna say, like, there's not much value in having a
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: guy the DH only unless he's truly like unplayable in
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the field old and you better be word don Alvarez
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: at the plate. So I'm gonna go ahead and say,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: if col Keith is the d H in four years,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that probably means he is an even better monster at
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the plate than we ever thought. Like that's just how
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: high that the bar would have to be there for
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: his bat to even remotely like justify that kind of
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: you know, pegging him to, hey, you're only a DH.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: And I'll and I'll say this, part part of my
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: motivation for even like thinking that is basically like respect
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: for the caliber of prospect with middle field middle infield
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: options that the Tigers have been bolstering in their farm system.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So I think it might be a conversation that will
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: eventually be had.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: That's that's all, Like, you know, yeah, I'm worth remembering.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Like a year ago, It's like it was cold Keith
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the second basement in the future, and now we're like, oh,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: how do we move this guy off first off second base?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Like prospect conversations are, they're interesting, they're fun, but they
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: are often just ridiculous because we don't know what's gonna happen.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: And right now everyone thinks Kevin McGonagall is going to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: be the greatest player of all time, and look, I
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: think his bat's real and he's going to have a
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: bright future. But like remember when Jayce Young, like I
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: don't know, Like these guys come up and it's like, oh, okay,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: they're pretty good, but they're not stars, and you're always
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: looking for the next superstar. And how many true superstars
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: are there in the sport? Like not that many. Not
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of these guys reach the ceilings we can
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: hold for them in our minds when they're hitting three
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: point thirty in Double A or whatever.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: So we'll go from prospects speculation to free agent speculation.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Scott Boris, he did lay. You know, he's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: going the bet for his clients, which is what are
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you supposed to do? And he's got a big one
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in Wan Soto and he's got quite a pretty interesting
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: one in Alex Brugman as well. He's got letting it
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: slip that you know he plays you know right, you
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: know Bregman, you can plays like a base So the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Bregman thing is something that hangs over the Tigers head
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: until he signs because of like, just like the Korea
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: stuff from a couple of years ago, obvious need ties
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to AJ and the desire to make this team into
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: a winner. So you take from a winning culture. Now
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you could argue that that third one is more about
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: over the top as opposed to just like create a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: winning culture. So like forever that's worth. But Bregman is
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: going to be the interesting name because even though those
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: things I just said that ties to the Tigers, there's
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: not a lot of people that are predicting that he
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: will sign with the Tigers. I see Yankees, I see Nationals,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I see him. A lot of people think he's coming
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: back to Houston, which you know, if he did that,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: that'd be fine or whatever. I think it was kind
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of they let him go out into the field for
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the last home game by himself as sort of like
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: his like curtain call, because it seemed like everybody thought
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he was gonna leave. So then if he came back,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that cool moment renders itself pointless. But uh, the athletic, Cody,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: You're great colleagues over the athletic he who just subscribe
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: so you can read all of Cody's great work and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: all of his great colleagues. Project Bregman at seven years,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty nine million dollars. So go back
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to the age thing, Like I always like to do.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: He is going to be thirty one basically on opening day,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: So how's that land for you? Do you have any
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: other sort of like inklings on what would be the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: right move given that number? Alex Bregman seven to eight
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: seven for one.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Nine seven nine, something about it just seems like more
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: than the Tigers are going to want to pay. I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: guess I don't know that, you know, but it was interesting.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Houston at one point seemed to have been written off,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: like as you said, yeah, like okay, he's on there,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And if anyone's commented strongly on it, I think it's
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: been the Astros and you know, Dana Brown and Jim Crane.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: There seems like they want to make a competitive offer
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to bring him back. So if they do that, that
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: could spark a little bit of a bidding war. Are
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the Yankees going to outbid? Are the Mets or whoever
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: else going to get in on this? And if so,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: where does that leave the Tigers? That means they better
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: really sell their culture and he better really want to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: go play for a J. Hinch And he better really
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: want to go play in a park that's not great
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: for home run hitters in bad weather, you know, like
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: there's a lot going on here, and if the Tigers
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: aren't going to have the most lucrative offer, it's going
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: to be an uphill battle. And I think that's why
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you're not seeing him like predicted. In addition to Scott Harris,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: who's still been very non like we STI don't really
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: have any idea how much, if at all, they're willing
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to spin. Like you know, GM meetings came and went,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and we didn't really garner any new insight into like
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: what into the market they're going to be fishing in,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Like we don't know. But then I also think about
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: it like this, if the Tigers just said fit and
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: added to their payroll and did a good sales pitch
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and they signed Alex Bredman and Christian Walker, would they
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: not be ale central favorites? I think they would be,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: so like you can talk yourself into just like no,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: you have some you have a good foundation. You need
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: to add a lot more bats. Be aggressive, Go get
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: those bats, Go make the playoffs like go go be
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: for real. And does that necessarily set back the franchise.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I am not sold that it does now. I think
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: it would be Realistically, I think the Tigers should get
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: one hitter of kind of this caliber, and I have
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: a hard time thinking that's going to be Breadman. But
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: sometimes I think maybe it should be Alex Bretman.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it. It should be
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I like the positive eye like it for all the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: obvious reasons, but it's hard for me to get over
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that mental hurdle of thinking that it's going to happen,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: which is something that I'm you know, I can speak
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: for myself here, Like every time you have some kind
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: of conversation about the Tigers, like everyone expects the spending
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of the Mike Ilich era and I have to be like, yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it would be great to go after Breg min or Soto.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I have no evidence to say that that's gonna happen,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: so I almost kind of like leave it out of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: my mind. Something that would be attention grabbing and uh,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you know cheap relative would be if the Tigers made
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a play for Let me see if I get this
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: right without only reading it without actually hearing it, Roki Sasaki.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Uh, pretty straightforward, right? Yeah?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so, but you know, I don't just
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: want in case I get it wrong. Uh. The latest
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: pitching sensation from Japan. He is expected to be posted.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: He is not physically posted yet. I tried to read
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: up all this, all these rules and you know, the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: rabbit holes and deadlines or whatever. It seems like in
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: layman's terms, this is not going to be a flat
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: out bidding war because he will have to be signed
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: via international bonus pool cash available. So it's not like
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: yl Moto last year where it's just like literally, who's
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the highest bidder or whatever he would have, you would
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: have to sell him on the environment. It's not going
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to be a dollars and cents thing because more or
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: less a lot of teams are going to be able
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to offer similar But the Tigers are going to have
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: almost as much money as anybody, if I read this correctly,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: available to them to try to make a move like that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And he's young, he's basically free considering what he would
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: do for you know, interests, tickets, TV revenue, all that stuff. Like,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I see no reason why the Tigers should make a
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: play like this, because this seems like a market that
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you can better understand and thus invest with more confidence,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and so I like the idea. This kind of seems
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: like outside the box approach because remember the Tigers were
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: linked to last year and that wasn't really true, but
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: it was out there, so I don't know. This feels
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: like maybe Scott Harris, like this could be like a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: trick up the sleeve Scott Harris' style going after Sasaki.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: So and they do have you know, obviously may under
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: contract right now that can help with any transition that
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: can be part of your sales pitch, right so I
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: think they would have at least a compelling case to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Sasaki if they wanted to go down this route.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think someone put this on Twitter, but like
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: all thirty teams should be on on Roki Sasaki. He's
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: going to sign for probably somewhere if I understand this
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: and all the rules that are ridiculous correctly between like
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: five point one and seven point six million dollars and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: every team has somewhere in that range in their international
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: bonus pool. So why would you not make a play
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: for Roki Sasaki? And then it becomes like, Okay, what
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: do you actually have to pitch to this person? You know?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: The Tigers, I guess they have certainly their success with
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: pictures and their ability to optimize pictures and playing in
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: what's a little bit overblown to call it a pitcher's park,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: but a part that can be friendly to pictures. So
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: there's something the kin to my I think one of
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: the most ridiculous overblown stories of last offseason was like, oh,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: adding kinto my Ata is going to open up the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Tigers pipeline to Japan, like I do. I don't really
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: know how much there is in that. I guess if
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: he wants to ask Kinta or things going in Detroit,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: he can, and I have no idea if kinda likes
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the city or not. But Keinton might be like, well,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I came here and it's not working out so hot
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: for me, so I'm not sure that helps you. At
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the same time, Sosaki, he seems to have incredible stuff,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: not at perfect, not a finished product, but you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Sarahs did a great breakdown if you want to know
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: more about his arsenal in the athletic really good fastball.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: The Velo actually took down a little bit last year,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: which is odd. Nasty splitter. We know Scott Harris likes
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the platoon neutral splitters a slider that's pretty good but
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: maybe has some room to further improve. Super high ceiling
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: with this guy. So yeah, every team should make a play.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I'd like it a lot more than if you were
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to wait a couple of years and you had to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: bid three hundred plus million for an international pitcher, which
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: is always a little bit of the gamble. So look,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I hope the Tigers make a run at him, but
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I would say, like the idea that, oh, they're going
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: to get Sasaki because Ken Domiata's here, Like I think
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that's kind of a ridiculous storyline.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Sure, but like it'd be one of those things where
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: like if he was looking for a place where he
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: could have a mentor like, that would be like that
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: would be like again, just part of the sales pitch,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: not necessarily like the pipeline thing or whatever, but it
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: would be fascinating. It'd be fascinating. They kind of try
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: to go that route because, like I said, it's it's
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's you're getting a bargain based on his talent. Now
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: maybe it comes to America and the stinks, but like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: based on his talent, his profile and we saw him
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic, like you were, you would
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: be getting a bargain and you're never gonna you're probably
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: never gonna get I say never, but you're hardly highly
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: unlikely to get a player of his talent and hype
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: for that price point, So like you're right every time
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I like.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Sasaki going this route. It seems to me that this
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: is what you do if you just really want to
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: play in the majors and you want to bet on
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: yourself a little bit. This is what Shoeotani did going
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: this route, where he signed as like a Stani, signed
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: a minor league deal as an international amateur rather than
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the full out posting bidding war. And obviously it's worked
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: out okay for mister Otan in the financial realm. But
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I do think Sasaki is an interesting target for another
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: reason that we've already seen kind of a lot happen
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: in the pitching market early this winter, just a couple
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, I pitched Nick Pivetta as a great
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: fit for the Tigers, and turned out the Red Sox
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: offered him a qualifying offer, which was a little bit surprising,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I think to some people in Boston circles. But basically,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: what this means the Tigers would have to forfeit a
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: draft pick if they were to sign a player who
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: rejects a qualifying offer. Several other pitchers who I think
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: made a lot of sense for the Tiger Sean Manaia,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Luis Severino, who they were interested in last offseason, Nick Martinez.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: All these guys are going to come with qualifying offers
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: attached to them the Tiger. A qualifying offers should not
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: necessarily preclude the Tigers from signing a free agent like
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Alex Bregman's, but consider that if you sign two free
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: agents who have a qualifying offer attached to them, you're forfeiting.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I believe you were third and fourth highest draft pick.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: The Tigers would as a revenue sharing team. Based on
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: how Scott Harris seems to approach the draft, I just
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: don't see them doing that. I think it would be
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: well worth forfeiting your third or whatever highest draft pick
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: for a hitter of the Alex Bredman, Christian Walker ilk.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I would do it for Nick Pavetta, right,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: So it makes you wonder if some of these pictures
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: are already crossed off the list. Interestingly enough, a guy
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: who did not receive a qualifying offer, one Walker Buehler
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: of the Dodgers, who I thought would and who I
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: thought maybe would take it. The fact he didn't, I
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: think that door just got a lot more open for Detroit,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: although I'm still not sold Bueller's only going to sign
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  Speaker 2: a one year deal whatever ends up happening within But
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I think the Bueler thing looks a lot more realistic
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  Speaker 2: than it did a couple of weeks ago. And you
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: could argue it strengthens the reason for all thirty teams
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to get in on Roki Sasaki. This guy might be
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the best value of some of your other targets have
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  Speaker 2: a qualifying offer attached to him like that doesn't again
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't necessarily preclude them from being signed. But I think
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: it just lowers the interest level, maybe lowers the total
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  Speaker 2: dollar value you're you're now willing to attach to that contract.
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  Speaker 2: So already some really interesting dominoes beginning to fall in
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: the pitching market.
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  Speaker 1: Very true, and I tend to I tend to think
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Scott Harris is going to be clinging to those draft picks,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: probably as a general purpose. He would probably also say
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: that the team is not accomplished or good enough to
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  Speaker 1: negate those picks or whenever, as part of the overall
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: billion of the team. Maybe you make like a real
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: alcs run you got a game seven or something like that.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It's like you just need this over the top that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: might preclude it, but like he's gonna I feel like
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: he's going to keep those options open. And also if
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you're if you're him and you're the front off, you think, well,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: we can get seven eight's out of player X that
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: we would get out of Nick Martinez or you know whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So we're just gonna go to player X and save
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  Speaker 1: the draft picks, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So it's exactly how they're gonna think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Cody, anything else before we get out
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  Speaker 1: of here.
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  Speaker 2: No, we are all good. Stay tuned. We are scheduled
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to have Tiger's manager A. J. Hinch on our next episode,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: which should come out Thursday.
• 37:24
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