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Brewers 22-0 M’s beatdown, THE Fernando Tatís Jr. game, Cubs walkoffs, Blue Jays better from trades? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting hold of much, Champs.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes the answer is just keep the dude that you
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Speaker 2: already had the news that came in right before the
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Speaker 2: show started. Or hey, Polanco, who has dealt with many
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Speaker 2: injuries throughout his career, is undergoing season ending surgery. So
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Speaker 2: Bob Nightingale posts how he replaced Pete Alonzo or was
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Speaker 2: supposed to at first base first base, DH whatever. Thirty
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Speaker 2: seven games, twenty hits, two home runs, six RBIs. I'll say,
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Speaker 2: of everyone the Pee Alonzo stats, you can just go
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Speaker 2: check those. They look pretty similar to every single season
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Speaker 2: of his career. KP. You know, Pete. It was a massive,
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Speaker 2: massive error in off season analysis to say, oh, we'll
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Speaker 2: take the injury prone dude who's had his moments but
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Speaker 2: also has never been at first base, and we will
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Speaker 2: have him replace the most one of the most consistent,
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Speaker 2: durable first basement in the sport.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Not only that, he's one of the most beloved Mets
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Speaker 1: maybe of old time. And he's a guy who wanted
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Speaker 1: to be in New York, loved being in New York,
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Speaker 1: and he was a guy who thrived under the biggest
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Speaker 1: lights that there is in baseball in New York. City,
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Speaker 1: and just a miss by the Mets, you know, to
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Speaker 1: especially to go out and replace him with a guy
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Speaker 1: who was never really played first base, who's dealt with
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Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. Not only has Pete been really
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Speaker 1: consistent in his production, he's one of those most durable guys.
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Speaker 1: He takes first base every single day, wants to be
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Speaker 1: out there every single day. So definitely a big miss
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Speaker 1: by the Mets.
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Speaker 3: M Pete. Pete's career ops plus one thirty six. Jorge
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Speaker 3: Polanco besides his first like season where he had like
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Speaker 3: a two thirty eight ops plus and like Noah Vats
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Speaker 3: one thirty three, his best season still didn't compare to
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Speaker 3: Pete's and Pete never Peet's average. Pete's average is better
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Speaker 3: than Polonko's Pete's.
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Speaker 2: Adding Polanco's best season, and you're right the sizzle aka
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Speaker 2: the Royds, which we're back in the day for Jorge.
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Speaker 2: But still, I mean, when you're evaluating the player and
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Speaker 2: you're paying it, you're a big leaguer, I'm saying. I'm
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Speaker 2: saying the common Oh well you bring that up, now, well,
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Speaker 2: it's all part of your story. It's all part of
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Speaker 2: your big league story. Pete's clean as whistle, durable as
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Speaker 2: can be. He's there every day. He's a spiritual leader,
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Speaker 2: he's an emotional leader, and he hits forty dingers a year.
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Speaker 2: So lesson learned on that one. That's a g.
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Speaker 3: Run prevention.
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Speaker 2: The run prevention from Pete is better than the caval
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Speaker 2: kid that they threw out at first base this year.
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Speaker 2: So that puts the end to that chapter when we said,
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Speaker 2: I wonder how this experiment's going to work out. It
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Speaker 2: did not work out in year one.
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Speaker 3: Let me back next year. Got another year to do
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Speaker 3: it for Whoh, that's.
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Speaker 2: True, Planco has another year to prove it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's not going to get traded because obviously you know
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Speaker 2: he's at ankle issues. It's not a tradable contract. They'll
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Speaker 2: hope that he can rebound and get back to a
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Speaker 2: shell of himself again. This is not a knock on Polanco.
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Speaker 2: This sucks for him. He's hurt all that, right, It's
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Speaker 2: a knock on the decision making to let someone like
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Speaker 2: that go when you had a perfect bit and it's
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Speaker 2: not easy to succeed like that in New York. A
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Speaker 2: lot of people fail in bigger markets. All right, let's
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Speaker 2: get to something fun, not charge the mound, but it
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Speaker 2: let's go over a team that is smiling after last night,
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Speaker 2: and that would be the Milwaukee Brewers Crats twenty to nothing.
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Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest blowout wins of all time
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Speaker 2: shutout variety. In fact, I'll give you the fun nugget
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Speaker 2: at the top. It's tied for the best shutout win
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Speaker 2: in terms of deficit right in the modern era. If
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Speaker 2: you go further back, did you see what the record was?
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Speaker 2: I found it from a few smarter people than me online.
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Speaker 2: Did you see what the record was for most lopsided
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Speaker 2: shutout win in baseball history? As far as what they recorded,
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Speaker 2: it was not in this century. It was not in
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Speaker 2: the last century.
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Speaker 3: It was like eighteen eighty seven, right, m M. But
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Speaker 3: I didn't see what the what the deficit was?
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Speaker 2: What was it? It was twenty four to nothing. And
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Speaker 2: I think you'll like the teams because you have connections
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Speaker 2: to both. The Indianapolis Hoosiers were the ones that lost.
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Speaker 2: You played in Indie right, Oh?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, two years it was Peyton Manning in the winter,
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Speaker 3: me in the summer, exactly where were the superstars.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Summercrats manning winters and then the Philadelphia Quakers were
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Speaker 2: victorious in that game.
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Speaker 3: Can I live here and I live near Quaker Town
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Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. I feel like I feel like I'm a
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Speaker 3: part of this. I feel like I'm a part of
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Speaker 3: history twenty four nothing. I wonder how many position players
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Speaker 3: pitched in that game?
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Speaker 2: Mmm? I think the position players were the pitchers, and
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Speaker 2: the pitchers were the position players. And I don't even
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Speaker 2: know if they knew that they were doing back then.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they probably a complete game by the losing team.
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Speaker 2: Probably well, in this one, we had all kinds of fun, right,
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Speaker 2: So first off, let's go through the actual result of
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Speaker 2: the game and that it is just one game for
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Speaker 2: the Mariners, although it is a very tumultuous season for
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Speaker 2: them up until this point. They still have time to
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Speaker 2: figure things out, but they are running out of time.
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Speaker 2: On the Brewers side, Kyle Harrison had like a little
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Speaker 2: bit of vlow down early on in this game, and
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Speaker 2: they were like, is he gonna be okay? It's going
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Speaker 2: to make it through a long season. Then that picked
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Speaker 2: right back up, still played very well. Here's someone who
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Speaker 2: follows the team, Jack Sterns ten whiffs, just two hard
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Speaker 2: hit balls. Below and command were off for much of
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Speaker 2: the night. Pulp third time through after seventy nine pitches
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Speaker 2: in five innings, although he did punch out eight, I
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Speaker 2: will say I mean I watched part of this game.
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Speaker 2: Eventually I was like, all right, I'll watch the highlights.
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Speaker 2: I don't need the twenty two nothing in Julio Rodriguez
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Speaker 2: forgetting how many outs there are. But I think Kyle
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Speaker 2: Harrison is going to be okay. They might have to
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Speaker 2: manage the workload down the stretch. But on the positive
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Speaker 2: side of things, Kratz, I mean, this is a true
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Speaker 2: clicking on all cylinders night for Milwaukee, including a lot
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Speaker 2: of power.
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Speaker 3: It's clicking on all cylinders. But I think it also
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Speaker 3: shows what they do have in the tank, because I
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Speaker 3: don't think Kyle Harrison was elite Kyle Harrison that we've seen.
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Speaker 3: So I'm not saying the Brewers are completely out of
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Speaker 3: the woods yet. I'm not saying He's going to be
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Speaker 3: throwing Game two and Logan Henderson throwing Game three after this,
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Speaker 3: but I love to see he's always going to get
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Speaker 3: swings and misses. He's got the pitch sneaks by guys.
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Speaker 3: Depending on the lineup, they just don't square it up
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Speaker 3: well or they don't hit it very well. But sometimes
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Speaker 3: when they do catch it, it goes a decent way.
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Speaker 3: I love the fact that it was only two hard hits.
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Speaker 3: I love the fact that he was able to push
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Speaker 3: through an outing. Yeah, you have five innings, but he
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Speaker 3: was able to push through it when he didn't have
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Speaker 3: his best stuff. You know, I think the Brewers' pictures
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Speaker 3: have dealt with some cramping issues. I think he dealt
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Speaker 3: with his last start or the start before, and it's
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Speaker 3: really just building him up to be that guy in
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Speaker 3: the postseason, which then brings me to the Mariners. Let's
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Speaker 3: say the Mariners do get to the postseason. They say
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Speaker 3: they do get to a spot where they somehow get
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Speaker 3: the third wildcard in the American League. This is the
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Speaker 3: kind of pictures you're gonna face in Game three. If
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Speaker 3: they don't figure out how to hit guys like this,
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Speaker 3: they're not even going to make it to Game three.
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Speaker 3: Because if a picture that's not on is shutting down
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Speaker 3: your lineup, how are you going to succeed in the
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Speaker 3: postseason where you didn't succeed last year? Because you didn't hit.
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Speaker 2: You hope that everyone gets hot. I don't know. Is
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Speaker 2: this a rhetorical question.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying that's not even a it's not
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Speaker 3: even a question. It's more of a statement. But I
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Speaker 3: use the word how can you do it? Like you can't.
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Speaker 3: They have to somehow, they have to make an adjustment,
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Speaker 3: and I don't see the team making an adjustment. I
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Speaker 3: think the front office rarely do I say, oh man,
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Speaker 3: the front office made an adjustment. The front office brought
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Speaker 3: back Nailor. They thought ref Snyder was gonna be the
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Speaker 3: guy that would be like, Okay, look at the year
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Speaker 3: that he had last year. We're bringing him into to
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Speaker 3: Rake against lefties, We're gonna have We're gonna have a
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Speaker 3: nice platoon advantage out there, even though it's kind of
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Speaker 3: a duplicitous signing in the fact that they already have
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Speaker 3: Victor Roblace, you know so, But I thought I thought
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Speaker 3: res Schnyder was a was a good get for a
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Speaker 3: team that rarely does moves in the offseason, and they
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Speaker 3: tried to add to this offense, and it's just a
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Speaker 3: it's it's the same thing over and over. But it's
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Speaker 3: also the same thing that I'm not even seeing it
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Speaker 3: like level out. I'm seeing them kind of like fade
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Speaker 3: as the season goes on, which has been the Mariners
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Speaker 3: mo o. And you know, some of that's to travel,
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Speaker 3: some of that lack of depth whatever it is. But
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Speaker 3: the starting pitchers don't fade. So if it's the travel,
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Speaker 3: you would think every every player on the team would fade,
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Speaker 3: and it's you know, they have the starting pitching to
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Speaker 3: make a deep run, possibly even win the World Series.
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Speaker 3: I mean, i mean win the American League because the
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Speaker 3: American League's down. But the offense just they got it.
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Speaker 3: They got to kick it in the gear tomorrow, like
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Speaker 3: it has to it has to happen now mm hmm.
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Speaker 2: You just get it all out of the way in
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Speaker 2: one game that gets as ugly as it gets. Or
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Speaker 2: maybe you know, Gary Sanchez is just that good on
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Speaker 2: the mound as a position player for the Brewers. Nasty right,
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Speaker 2: Luis Laarra first home run against the position player? Do
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Speaker 2: you make fun of him in the club ass afterwards
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Speaker 2: if you're a teammate, like fun making fun of Yeah,
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Speaker 2: for sure.
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Speaker 3: But it's also your first big league homer in you know,
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Speaker 3: your whole life. You'll know who you hit your first
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Speaker 3: big league homer against, But you will also have it
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Speaker 3: on your stat sheet that you hit a big league
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Speaker 3: homer And I don't I mean, yeah, I don't care.
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Speaker 3: That's against a bit that's it's It may even be
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Speaker 3: tougher to hit against a posiness player.
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, one day someone's gonna make Oh, who
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Speaker 2: is your first homer against? Revus Revas? What pictures Leo Rivas?
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Speaker 2: He's not a picture.
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Speaker 3: You must give me Rivas. That's six seven righty from
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Speaker 3: from Santiago, Dominican Republic. You know he used to throw
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Speaker 3: sink ninety eight to one hundred, and you're like, uh yeah,
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Speaker 3: maybe probably not him.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm. What did you think of the
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Speaker 2: situation all the way back in the first ending of
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Speaker 2: this one where Jake Bowers had to dive back into
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Speaker 2: the plate and you know, said he was not trying
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Speaker 2: to knock the ball out of the club of cal Raley.
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Speaker 3: I would have said live. When I first watched it,
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's one hundred percent, maybe not
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Speaker 3: as egregious as a Rod's slapping the ball out. But
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Speaker 3: then when you watch the replay and you know the
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Speaker 3: umpire's right there, right rate at the play. I would
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Speaker 3: agree with the umpire's discretion there. I don't think he
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Speaker 3: tried to I don't think he tried to slap it
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Speaker 3: out of his glove. I think he went right at
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Speaker 3: the glove, which I don't think is against the rule,
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Speaker 3: as we've just had the rule up. If you're if
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Speaker 3: you're listening on the pod, like reading the actual rule,
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Speaker 3: and you know, I think the umpire it's to the
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Speaker 3: umpire's discretion as meant as many rules are. But I
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Speaker 3: think he made the right call.
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Speaker 2: Mhmm. It's one game. I guess I'll finish with the
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Speaker 2: even though it's it might make the other side smile
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Speaker 2: since they got more runs out of it, And I
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Speaker 2: don't think you took it too seriously. But veteran forgetting
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Speaker 2: how many outs? Julio Rodriguez later on, It happens a
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Speaker 2: few times a year in our sport, right probably what
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Speaker 2: is the put the over under any Major League game
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Speaker 2: of true for getting out tossing ball into stands at
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Speaker 2: one and a half, two and a half, right.
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Speaker 3: So I'm I'm a set at three. I know we've
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Speaker 3: had two this year, you know, even even Hall of
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Speaker 3: famers have done it. I think it's one of those
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Speaker 3: things that you just you're playing with the you know,
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Speaker 3: the timing in your head. Should you always look at
12:44
Speaker 3: the scoreboard? Yes, you're human, you make mistakes. The part
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12:54
Speaker 3: gets a RBI on that because you can't assume this.
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Speaker 3: The runner on third wasn't going to score. I get it,
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Speaker 3: they didn't make a play at them, but that is
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Speaker 3: a sackfly. He tagged up, scored RBI. He doesn't get
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Speaker 3: the second RBI. That's an unearned run. So Revos doesn't
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Speaker 3: get get an urn on there either. So that's huge.
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Speaker 2: course with UKP and get your thoughts on what they
15:32
Speaker 2: did at the deadline and why it's working for them now.
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Speaker 2: And I think the latest version of that is Brett Bateman,
15:38
Speaker 2: and that's someone that nationally was not well known, but
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Speaker 2: within the Blue Jays organization he was well known for
15:43
Speaker 2: his club. Can you explain his impact so quickly to
15:47
Speaker 2: this team and how of course trading away bar show
15:49
Speaker 2: getting Araghetti, even though he might not be the biggest
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Speaker 2: contributor this year, has had some injuries, but getting Jose
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Speaker 2: Soriano could actually mean this team's better since the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't agree, or I do agree with that.
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Speaker 1: I do think they're a better team. And in terms
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Speaker 1: of Bateman, you know, it's always tough saying goodbye to
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Speaker 1: players that obviously helped the Blue Jays get in a
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Speaker 1: position that they were in last year, people that are
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Speaker 1: fan favorites, people that have done a lot for the organization.
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Speaker 1: And I'm referring to a guy like Dalton bar Show,
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Speaker 1: I'm referring to a guy like Kevin Gosman. But you know,
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Speaker 1: if you look at kind of the underlying metrics with
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Speaker 1: a guy like bar Show, he wasn't the same center
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Speaker 1: fielder that he was the previous year, and without him
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Speaker 1: really hitting to his potential and him being an impending
16:32
Speaker 1: free agent at the end of the year, they had
16:34
Speaker 1: to make a tough decision to kind of move on
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Speaker 1: with him. And I thought they did a tremendous job
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Speaker 1: in the return for him and getting a Spencer Arengetti,
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Speaker 1: someone who might not factor in right now, but all
16:45
Speaker 1: signs are porting to him getting healthy. He had just
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Speaker 1: pitched in Triple A. He says he has no pain
16:50
Speaker 1: with that foot or toe injury that he has. I
16:53
Speaker 1: guess they made him a special orthotic for his shoe
16:56
Speaker 1: or his cleat which has been bothering him. And I
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Speaker 1: think he's actually going to be meeting with the team
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Speaker 1: here in Tampa to throw a bullpen and kind of
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Speaker 1: talk about the next steps moving forward. In terms of
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Speaker 1: Brett Bateman, you know, you look at the numbers, he's
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Speaker 1: already kind of racked three outs above average. This is
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Speaker 1: exactly what they needed. I think the big question was
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Speaker 1: when Varshow was traded, who was going to step into
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Speaker 1: center field not only this year, but for you know,
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Speaker 1: the following couple of years. And I think the Blue
17:25
Speaker 1: Jays front office, their scout department did a tremendous job
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Speaker 1: and finding a who more than likely was going to
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Speaker 1: be buried in the Chicago Cubs organization. You know, I
17:35
Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard of the guy pe Crow
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Speaker 1: Armstrong who plays centerfield for the Cubs. I don't think
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Speaker 1: had a clear path to the major leagues there, so,
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Speaker 1: you know, and there was a lot of discussion amongst
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Speaker 1: Blue Jay fans that they felt like the return for
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Speaker 1: Kevin Gosman going to the Cubs was light and you know,
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Speaker 1: when Kevin Gosman obviously look at the back of his
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Speaker 1: baseball card, you know, a tremendous resume, but hadn't been
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball particularly well over his last handful of
18:02
Speaker 1: starts for the Blue Jays. And once again, give the
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Speaker 1: front office scouting department a ton of credit for going
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Speaker 1: out and identifying this guy who could kind of fill
18:11
Speaker 1: that void once they were able to trade Dalton Bar
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Speaker 1: show and obviously the big ticket item going out and
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Speaker 1: getting a guy like Jose Soriano. Arm talent like that
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Speaker 1: doesn't show up on your doorstop very often, and the
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Speaker 1: Blue Jays identified him as a guy they felt like,
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Speaker 1: very much like Dylan sees, who possesses world class stuff.
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Speaker 1: Can we get him into this ecosystem with Pete Walker,
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Speaker 1: our pitching department, the analytics department, and can we refine
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Speaker 1: some of the things that he already does better than
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Speaker 1: most people. And the early signs of what Jose Soriano
18:43
Speaker 1: has been showing is showing him trending in that direction.
18:47
Speaker 1: And there's not a lot you can do kind of mechanically,
18:50
Speaker 1: but I think the biggest thing we've seen from Jose
18:52
Speaker 1: Soriano is the pitch usage in Anaheim or in Los
18:56
Speaker 1: Angeles with the Angels for whatever reason, they wanted him
18:59
Speaker 1: using that force fastball a lot more. Early signs are
19:02
Speaker 1: showing the Blue Jays want him to throw that sinker
19:04
Speaker 1: a ton more and obviously that elite curveball, the combination
19:08
Speaker 1: of those two pitches and then sprinkling in you know,
19:10
Speaker 1: the split finger in the four scene. But you got
19:13
Speaker 1: to give him a ton of credit for kind of
19:16
Speaker 1: going out and buying and selling simultaneously. It's not really
19:19
Speaker 1: easy to do that, and I think Blue Jay fans
19:22
Speaker 1: have been really happy with their return.
19:24
Speaker 2: Can we show that Mike Petriello tweet with the stat
19:28
Speaker 2: cast metrics for Bateman, so he said, Bateman has been
19:31
Speaker 2: up in the biggs for about ten minutes. He's already
19:33
Speaker 2: quickly racking up fielding value, which is what his scouting
19:36
Speaker 2: report indicated. Very cool to see, so showing already here
19:39
Speaker 2: the three outs above average in five minutes. We actually
19:43
Speaker 2: have seen this with him, and we mentioned this the
19:45
Speaker 2: other day. Kratz, George Lombard Junior, both of them barely
19:48
Speaker 2: playing so far and already kind of working their way
19:51
Speaker 2: up to gain significant stats. Stats that for some defenders
19:54
Speaker 2: they don't get for an entire year or they end
19:57
Speaker 2: up in the negative. I guess the point here is
20:00
Speaker 2: we have some guys who can make a major impact
20:02
Speaker 2: in a short period of time with their glove, and
20:05
Speaker 2: we are seeing a little bit with him.
20:08
Speaker 3: I mean, it's credit to the Jays for giving him
20:11
Speaker 3: a chance. Yes, he wasn't going to take over PCA.
20:14
Speaker 3: There's a lot of organizations that are like, unless you're
20:18
Speaker 3: catching or playing short, you know, obviously center field is
20:22
Speaker 3: probably that third position defensively, maybe even fourth after third base,
20:27
Speaker 3: where you're getting a ton of value. But with a
20:30
Speaker 3: guy like Bateman, I think he had five or six
20:32
Speaker 3: home runs his entire career in the minor leagues. Not
20:36
Speaker 3: a power guy, so if he doesn't stick in center,
20:39
Speaker 3: he's not going to play right field unless you play
20:42
Speaker 3: in a place like Boston. So credit to the Blue
20:44
Speaker 3: Jays for being able to see a guy that, you
20:47
Speaker 3: know what, we want to continue our trend of defense
20:51
Speaker 3: with Andre Samenez, with we had Dalton var show, you know,
20:56
Speaker 3: we have gold behind the plate and Alejandro Kirk like,
20:59
Speaker 3: they want to continue their defensive prowess and they plug
21:03
Speaker 3: a guy in and gets a chance and he rewards them.
21:10
Speaker 2: What about the topic of the way that the Blue
21:12
Speaker 2: Jays handled the deadline, I know you mentioned KP versus
21:16
Speaker 2: what some of their other contenders did. Remember we had
21:19
Speaker 2: who was it? A Tim Barblace on the Orioles guest
21:23
Speaker 2: for us yesterday, And I think it was important to
21:27
Speaker 2: remind people that they were handing relievers away the last
21:31
Speaker 2: couple of years to teams that are then shoving it
21:34
Speaker 2: right back in their face, and that matters. That's a
21:37
Speaker 2: team that could miss the playoffs by one, two, three games,
21:39
Speaker 2: and you could look back at times like that.
21:43
Speaker 1: Well, I think in the Blue Jays case, I don't
21:45
Speaker 1: think the players were doing the front office any justice
21:47
Speaker 1: by not coming out and playing really well. And then
21:50
Speaker 1: the American League was the gift that just kept on
21:52
Speaker 1: giving them. Like they weren't playing well, but they weren't
21:55
Speaker 1: falling far enough behind to say, hey, we don't believe
21:58
Speaker 1: this team has a turnaround him. And there was a
22:01
Speaker 1: lot of times, as someone who covers the team, I
22:03
Speaker 1: was ready to write him off. And then they would
22:05
Speaker 1: go on this like little mini stretch. The rest of
22:07
Speaker 1: the American League would kind of you know, falter, they
22:10
Speaker 1: get themselves close to five hundred and then they lose
22:12
Speaker 1: four games, and this was just kind of this cycle
22:14
Speaker 1: that they kept running through. So the front office had
22:18
Speaker 1: a really difficult decision to make, and they did. In
22:21
Speaker 1: my opinion, it's an A plus trade deadline. They got
22:24
Speaker 1: rid of some of the guys, and I know it
22:26
Speaker 1: was emotionally really tough for the players, the organization, the
22:30
Speaker 1: fan base to get rid of guys like Kevin Gosman,
22:32
Speaker 1: who may go down as the greatest signing in Blue
22:35
Speaker 1: Jay's history for what he did for the amount of
22:38
Speaker 1: money they signed him at a time when a lot
22:40
Speaker 1: of players didn't want to cross the border to play.
22:43
Speaker 1: You know, he lived up to that contract and he
22:45
Speaker 1: was you know, beyond what he did, you know, for
22:49
Speaker 1: the team on the field, the things he did off
22:51
Speaker 1: the field. It was a difficult decision. But to bring
22:54
Speaker 1: back a guy like Jose Soriano and really kind of
22:56
Speaker 1: swap those two players, I know they went different places,
22:59
Speaker 1: but to bring a guy like that, you can't drop
23:03
Speaker 1: a better deadline for them because the team. Once again,
23:06
Speaker 1: the team didn't help their cause by not getting off
23:09
Speaker 1: to a good start and then not playing really good baseball.
23:11
Speaker 1: But you've kind of seen the direction this team has
23:15
Speaker 1: really gone in after the trade deadline. I think there
23:17
Speaker 1: was so much uncertainty up to the deadline, and then
23:20
Speaker 1: you kind of get this shot in the arm of
23:22
Speaker 1: a guy like Jose Soriano and then you kind of
23:24
Speaker 1: get this unknown and Brett Bateman and he's just kind
23:26
Speaker 1: of been, you know, just an absolute stud for them
23:29
Speaker 1: in center field. You know, he's a pesky hitter, he's
23:32
Speaker 1: running down stuff in center field. And I think the
23:34
Speaker 1: fact that the players felt like the front office didn't
23:37
Speaker 1: give up on him, in fact, they actually believed in him.
23:39
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing a better product than the field
23:41
Speaker 1: right now.
23:43
Speaker 2: Last piece of the puzzle here is the team identity,
23:46
Speaker 2: run prevention and pitching to an extent. Right, You've got
23:49
Speaker 2: some good starters in here, and then I know they've
23:51
Speaker 2: been missing many starters, but there's some good starting pitching
23:54
Speaker 2: talent in here. And then of course Barland at the
23:57
Speaker 2: back end to finish things off for Toronto. I ask
24:00
Speaker 2: it just because they also have had the flatty junior
24:03
Speaker 2: problem all year. He doesn't look himself. I believe they're
24:06
Speaker 2: towards the bottom in some of the significant offensive categories, right,
24:10
Speaker 2: I think.
24:12
Speaker 1: In the bottom. The average per game still, yeah, runs
24:16
Speaker 1: per game, batting average, runner, hitting with runners in scoring position,
24:21
Speaker 1: hitting with the runners, and scoring two outs, they're near
24:24
Speaker 1: the bottom and all those statistics. I mean, they're they're
24:26
Speaker 1: middle of the pack with batting average, but look at
24:28
Speaker 1: these other statistics, they're at the bottom of the pack
24:32
Speaker 1: in those things. But no, I don't think coming into
24:35
Speaker 1: the season that was their whole identity. I think they've
24:38
Speaker 1: kind of morphed into the idea of, Okay, let's go
24:41
Speaker 1: out and just get a better starting pitcher, Jose Soriano.
24:44
Speaker 1: Let's add to the back of the bullpen. Let's go
24:47
Speaker 1: get guys that can go really really go get it defensively.
24:50
Speaker 1: I don't think this was their identity coming into the season.
24:54
Speaker 1: After the season they had last year, you know, the
24:56
Speaker 1: Blue j kind of change baseball a little, you know,
25:00
Speaker 1: in their identity of the Blue Jays were just an
25:02
Speaker 1: extremely tough team to strike out. They were putting the
25:04
Speaker 1: ball in play, you know, and they were doing enough
25:07
Speaker 1: damage home players, slugging enough. You know, they weren't a
25:10
Speaker 1: top five team in home runs or slug but you know,
25:14
Speaker 1: they were a top ten team. But I think just
25:17
Speaker 1: with Vlady having the type of year he had, George
25:20
Speaker 1: Springer having some natural regression from what he had last year,
25:24
Speaker 1: Alejandro Kirk missing so much time this year, and he's
25:27
Speaker 1: really starting to pick it up. You know, he's starting
25:29
Speaker 1: to look like himself and be healthy. I think they
25:31
Speaker 1: had no choice but to really kind of double down on,
25:35
Speaker 1: you know, part of their identity, which was pitching and defense.
25:39
Speaker 1: But you know, in a perfect world, I think that
25:40
Speaker 1: would have been part of the puzzle. I think offensively,
25:43
Speaker 1: they expected a lot more out of them this season.
25:46
Speaker 1: It just hasn't really worked out for him.
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Speaker 1: That's what he said.
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Speaker 2: talk first about Fernando Tatis Junior. Shall we KP we
27:17
Speaker 2: love when you have when we have you on to
27:19
Speaker 2: talk a little bit of outfield robbery. He also hit
27:22
Speaker 2: two home runs and a win for the Padres over
27:24
Speaker 2: the Mets. I want to show the tweet first so
27:27
Speaker 2: that we can do the full experience of kid dreaming
27:30
Speaker 2: about this moment. Right This ad, two time Platinum glover,
27:33
Speaker 2: many home run robberies in his career, is one of
27:35
Speaker 2: the best athletes in the sport. Moving to the outfield
27:37
Speaker 2: was a great move for him to show off that athleticism,
27:40
Speaker 2: and aj caasfellow covers the team every day, gave us
27:43
Speaker 2: that's what he said. Moment that's actually been talked about
27:45
Speaker 2: over time, he said, had to be an especially cool
27:47
Speaker 2: moment for Tatis. He once told US media that he
27:51
Speaker 2: began working on home run robberies when he was a
27:53
Speaker 2: ten year old kid living in New York while his
27:56
Speaker 2: dad played for the Mets. Their apartment had a wall
27:59
Speaker 2: just taller than he was, so he did what any
28:01
Speaker 2: ten year old kid would do. KP. Many people were
28:05
Speaker 2: saying they thought it was the best home run robbery
28:07
Speaker 2: that Fernando Tatis Junior had ever done at City Field
28:11
Speaker 2: last night.
28:12
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know if it was the best. I mean,
28:14
Speaker 1: he's made some pretty incredible plays, but I think given
28:17
Speaker 1: that context of how can you not be romantic about baseball,
28:21
Speaker 1: there's a place he dreamed of, you know, going out
28:23
Speaker 1: and making this catch in New York and City Field,
28:27
Speaker 1: you know, considering the context too of you know, it
28:30
Speaker 1: being bases loaded, you know what the Padres are trying
28:33
Speaker 1: to accomplish this year. Incredible moment and under normal circumstances,
28:37
Speaker 1: I would say, if you're not hitting him, go take
28:40
Speaker 1: him away. But then he goes and it hits two
28:42
Speaker 1: home runs the same day, So pretty incredible game for him,
28:47
Speaker 1: you know, and it makes me think about what kind
28:49
Speaker 1: of Joe Maddam was saying about a guy like c
28:51
Speaker 1: J Abrams too. You know, we're talking about a former
28:53
Speaker 1: shortstop and Fernando Tatis just kind of a freak athlete.
28:58
Speaker 1: Sometimes when these guys, you know, fundamentally just struggle a
29:02
Speaker 1: little bit at that position in the infield. Getting these
29:05
Speaker 1: guys to go play the outfield and allowing to like
29:07
Speaker 1: allow this best athlete to really come out of them.
29:09
Speaker 1: And I think it's really kind of changed a lot
29:12
Speaker 1: for Franandi of Tatis junior out there, you know, watching
29:15
Speaker 1: him move out there, he looks like a natural born athlete.
29:17
Speaker 1: He looks like an NFL wide receiver. He just gets
29:19
Speaker 1: to go out there and be free, and you know,
29:21
Speaker 1: I think for any outfielder. This is kind of the
29:25
Speaker 1: epitome of what you kind of go to bed at
29:27
Speaker 1: night thinking about doing. You know, you dream about the
29:30
Speaker 1: opportunity of going up stealing a home run, and to
29:33
Speaker 1: rob a Grand Slam is kind of like the epitome
29:36
Speaker 1: of robbing a home run. And then once again, if
29:38
Speaker 1: you factor in kind of the story behind it, it's
29:41
Speaker 1: a really cool moment for him and obviously his dad too,
29:44
Speaker 1: who you know, spend a lot of time in New York.
29:47
Speaker 3: That's that's got I mean, as as a catcher, you're
29:50
Speaker 3: sitting there, you're like, you're always in all of outfielders,
29:53
Speaker 3: You're in all shortstops because you're like, I could never
29:57
Speaker 3: do that. I could never even come close. And for
29:59
Speaker 3: those in the chat who know, you know, you know,
30:01
Speaker 3: call him a spade a spade. Wow, Fernando Tatis really
30:05
Speaker 3: hit the ball far. It's probably still gonna hit about
30:07
Speaker 3: twenty five homers this year. But hey, you know what,
30:09
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call the guys out that I that have
30:12
Speaker 3: called me out in the chat. So do you think
30:16
Speaker 3: that the Padres turnaround has anything to do with the
30:19
Speaker 3: fact that Fernando Tatis played forty three games at second
30:23
Speaker 3: base out of necessity. I get it, they had injuries
30:26
Speaker 3: and they need him to move back in, But now
30:29
Speaker 3: that he's back at his I don't know if it's
30:32
Speaker 3: even his natural position, because he definitely I saw his
30:35
Speaker 3: big lead debut when he made it against us with
30:38
Speaker 3: the Giants at shortstop. He's a natural shortstop. It just
30:41
Speaker 3: didn't work out for whatever reason, whether it was because
30:44
Speaker 3: his routes, his footwork, his arm accuracy, whatever it was.
30:49
Speaker 3: He has given this team so much more value as
30:53
Speaker 3: a right fielder that when you guys have guys out
30:56
Speaker 3: of position, and made me think of it last night
30:59
Speaker 3: because they're playing the men who have everybody out of position,
31:02
Speaker 3: that when you have guys out of position, your team
31:05
Speaker 3: just it's harder to win games. And you'll never be
31:07
Speaker 3: able to put that in some type of algorithm, But
31:12
Speaker 3: the Mets proved it. I think the Padres earlier. Yes
31:16
Speaker 3: they didn't hit, but with him back in right field,
31:19
Speaker 3: there's so much more value for this team to just
31:21
Speaker 3: be an overall better team.
31:24
Speaker 2: Do you agree KP on the outfields versus second base thing?
31:29
Speaker 1: No, I mean, obviously it was out of necessity for
31:32
Speaker 1: Fernando Tatist Junior but you know, for someone who played
31:35
Speaker 1: only the outfielder, you know, especially when things aren't going
31:38
Speaker 1: well offensively, there was a time for your brain to wander,
31:41
Speaker 1: you start thinking mechanics. And I know it was necessity,
31:44
Speaker 1: but I do feel like there was a little bit
31:46
Speaker 1: of psychology in the fact they moved him back to
31:48
Speaker 1: second base too. You get him a little bit closer
31:51
Speaker 1: to the baseball, you get him not having so much
31:53
Speaker 1: free time in the outfield. He's got to be super
31:55
Speaker 1: engaged at second base. He's also playing a position he
31:58
Speaker 1: hasn't played it in a long time, and it probably
32:00
Speaker 1: really really got him engaged in the game. You know,
32:03
Speaker 1: when when you're playing a position that you're not super
32:06
Speaker 1: familiar with it, you're on high alert. You know, you're
32:09
Speaker 1: you're so engaged with everything that's going on that you
32:11
Speaker 1: almost forget about the other side of this ball for
32:14
Speaker 1: that time being. And I think, like I said, I
32:17
Speaker 1: think there was a lot of psychology behind it. There
32:19
Speaker 1: was obviously some necessity, but putting him in what is
32:23
Speaker 1: now his natural position. I know, initially he came up
32:25
Speaker 1: as a short stop, but you know, from everything he's
32:28
Speaker 1: been able to do since he's moved to the outfield.
32:31
Speaker 1: That is where he belongs.
32:33
Speaker 2: Mmm. Oh, he helped out a new friend, a new teammate.
32:36
Speaker 2: And Robbie Ray too, by the way, who was making
32:39
Speaker 2: what was it maybe his third, no more than his fourth,
32:42
Speaker 2: maybe his third start with the p Andres.
32:45
Speaker 1: And talk about psychology too. Almost a four run mistake
32:49
Speaker 1: right there, and then your teammates, you know, goes up
32:52
Speaker 1: and snatches it down like that's a confident too for
32:55
Speaker 1: a pitcher.
32:56
Speaker 3: That's four defensive runs saved. I would never be convinced
33:00
Speaker 3: any other way. I get it. It's not four. You
33:03
Speaker 3: don't get four.
33:05
Speaker 1: It should be four.
33:06
Speaker 3: He saved four runs on that play, and I looked
33:09
Speaker 3: it up. The Padres were twenty and twenty three when
33:13
Speaker 3: Fernando Tatis was playing at second base.
33:17
Speaker 1: I'm just that is the most obvious four run defensive
33:20
Speaker 1: run saved I've ever seen, because is if that ball
33:23
Speaker 1: goes over one, two, three, four guys score, yeah, Grand Slam,
33:28
Speaker 1: four runs he.
33:30
Speaker 3: Saved Grand Slam. The best homer there is.
33:35
Speaker 2: He created a whole swing of whatever it was seven
33:38
Speaker 2: run swing or something yesterday he add up to two
33:40
Speaker 2: members plus the four runs that he saved on the
33:43
Speaker 2: Grand Slam. I mean that is Fernando Tatis basically winning
33:46
Speaker 2: the game, not by himself, but you know what I'm.
33:50
Speaker 3: Saying, he was the guy because he didn't write right now.
33:55
Speaker 2: M M wait, two things go ahead, KP. First, I
34:00
Speaker 2: want to address with Eric said.
34:02
Speaker 1: No, no, I just said it's because he's playing right field.
34:04
Speaker 1: That's why he changed the game. He's in his natural position.
34:07
Speaker 2: Never move him off there again. Uh, Kratz, what'd you
34:10
Speaker 2: say about Machado.
34:12
Speaker 3: Machado is so hot right now?
34:15
Speaker 2: Are you being serious or sarcastic? I genuinely can't tell
34:18
Speaker 2: because he No, no, he's not. No, in July he was,
34:23
Speaker 2: and then it dipped again in August, and then I
34:25
Speaker 2: think this was his first home run of the month. No.
34:27
Speaker 3: Yes, I've just been trolled. I've been trolled on Twitter.
34:30
Speaker 2: So it is.
34:32
Speaker 3: It is a It's a constant roller coaster of To me,
34:36
Speaker 3: I think a really great player, which people will say, no,
34:40
Speaker 3: he stinks, and then when he's doing well, they're like, see,
34:42
Speaker 3: I told you, I think he's a really great player.
34:45
Speaker 3: But he plays every day. We just talked to Joe
34:48
Speaker 3: Madden about like you need breaks, Mane Machada does not
34:51
Speaker 3: know breaks. He does not want to come out of
34:53
Speaker 3: the game. So you're gonna have ups and downs at
34:56
Speaker 3: this point in his career. But in my opinion, he's
35:00
Speaker 3: it's still a really good player. I get it. He's
35:02
Speaker 3: not hot right now. That was sarcasm. I'm sorry, but
35:06
Speaker 3: he killed it in July. You play through injuries, you
35:09
Speaker 3: play through nagging things, but the constant is Manny Machado
35:14
Speaker 3: is always out there in that lineup.
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36:16
Speaker 2: Let's move to the Crossdown Classic. Another walk off for
36:21
Speaker 2: the Cubs, another home run for p crow Armstrong. Alex
36:26
Speaker 2: Bregman was mister clutching this one too. But here's Jesse
36:29
Speaker 2: Rodgers pointing out, no surprise, P krow Armstrong, first player
36:32
Speaker 2: in MLB history with two leadoff home runs and a
36:36
Speaker 2: walk off home run in a two game span. Are
36:40
Speaker 2: you cherry picking a little bit? I guess, but it's not.
36:42
Speaker 2: I mean twice in a game, his first AB homer
36:47
Speaker 2: and then the walk off his buddy Alex Bregman, who
36:51
Speaker 2: I think has been a huge benefactor in him taking
36:54
Speaker 2: another step at the plate, tying hit. Seventh walk off
36:59
Speaker 2: hit the Cubs. And here's the quote. Let's go over
37:03
Speaker 2: the quote from PCA about the whole series said, really
37:07
Speaker 2: good for this city. You've got a second place team
37:09
Speaker 2: in US, but a first place team in them. First
37:12
Speaker 2: time they've been really competitive in a while. He said,
37:14
Speaker 2: It's just really freakin cool that we put the product
37:17
Speaker 2: out on the field together and go compete. So everybody's
37:20
Speaker 2: excited about these two teams playing goodball. They're great games too.
37:23
Speaker 2: I know they both went Chicago's way here to start KP,
37:27
Speaker 2: but PI Kerr Armstrong has taken the next level because
37:30
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's ever going to be the
37:32
Speaker 2: most patient hitter at the plate. Is he ever going
37:33
Speaker 2: to be that Alex Bregman. I don't know if he
37:36
Speaker 2: even should be, but even getting a little bit, but
37:39
Speaker 2: he doesn't. But do you see the way that he
37:41
Speaker 2: is spitting at some pitches and also just waiting for
37:44
Speaker 2: something to come to him, And that's where the damage
37:46
Speaker 2: comes from. There's been quotes throughout the year of Alex
37:49
Speaker 2: Bregman constantly in his head every day to make them
37:52
Speaker 2: come to you, and I mean, you're seeing it, no.
37:55
Speaker 3: Look at it.
37:55
Speaker 1: And I got a chance to reach out and talk
37:57
Speaker 1: to Alex Bregman in my career, but he was a
37:59
Speaker 1: guy that I owe always wanted to play with for
38:02
Speaker 1: one particular reason. There was these times in my career
38:05
Speaker 1: and I was a lot like PCA and the fact
38:07
Speaker 1: that I swung out a lot of things right, and
38:09
Speaker 1: I would go and do research on some of the
38:11
Speaker 1: betters in the game. And Alex Bregman is the most
38:14
Speaker 1: disciplined hitter in baseball. Like his swing is only in
38:17
Speaker 1: a certain percentage if that or in a part of
38:19
Speaker 1: the zone. If that ball doesn't show up there, he
38:21
Speaker 1: doesn't swing. So I always wanted to, you know, kind
38:24
Speaker 1: of team up with him, be a teammate, learned from him.
38:27
Speaker 1: And even if PCA could just learn get ten percent
38:31
Speaker 1: better in that area, he's showing these MVP type of
38:36
Speaker 1: skills on the on the field, and you know, look
38:40
Speaker 1: at it. I mean, he's batt in two eighty one,
38:42
Speaker 1: you know, three eighty on base percentage, so he's walking
38:46
Speaker 1: out a ten percent clip right there. If he could
38:48
Speaker 1: just get two or three percent better, I mean, we're
38:50
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who potentially has a thousand ops
38:53
Speaker 1: on the season. But I don't know what's more impressive
38:56
Speaker 1: PCA doing what he did or someone actually find I
39:00
Speaker 1: mean that that's the first time in Major League Baseball
39:02
Speaker 1: history I'm always amazed at that they could find these things.
39:07
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. But you know, even with Chicago White
39:11
Speaker 1: Sox losing these two games, you've talked about how competitive
39:14
Speaker 1: both these games are, and I think kind of the
39:17
Speaker 1: jury is still out there. Who are the White Sox.
39:19
Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to, you know, hold
39:22
Speaker 1: off these other teams, you know, chasing them the division?
39:25
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of talk about the Cubs. You
39:26
Speaker 1: know that this is a legitimate contender to do some
39:30
Speaker 1: damage in the postseason. And even though the White Sox
39:33
Speaker 1: have lost both these games, I think they are showing
39:36
Speaker 1: that they're for real and it's great for baseball when
39:39
Speaker 1: both of these teams are good.
39:42
Speaker 3: KP. Are you more impressed with the adjustments that Pa
39:46
Speaker 3: has made at the plate or how much better of
39:50
Speaker 3: a center fielder he is than everybody else in the game?
39:55
Speaker 1: Wow?
39:56
Speaker 3: Or do you not believe that either of those statements?
39:59
Speaker 2: No.
40:00
Speaker 1: I think the improvement that he's made at the plate
40:02
Speaker 1: is is pretty remarkable. But I think to be that
40:08
Speaker 1: much better at your position than the next guy, and honestly,
40:11
Speaker 1: to be that much better at a position than pretty
40:14
Speaker 1: much any other position in the game is pretty remarkable
40:17
Speaker 1: and for someone that really prided himself on defense and
40:20
Speaker 1: wanted to go out and accomplish great things defensively, what
40:23
Speaker 1: he's doing, the numbers that he's putting up, and at
40:27
Speaker 1: this point in my life, I still don't really know
40:29
Speaker 1: how those numbers end up being the way they are.
40:31
Speaker 1: I don't know how to compute them. But to me,
40:34
Speaker 1: he passes the eyeball test. And you know, for someone
40:37
Speaker 1: that was, you know, pretty good at playing center field,
40:40
Speaker 1: when I watch him, the reads that he gets, the
40:43
Speaker 1: instincts that he has, his abilit and you know, there's
40:45
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that can really run at that position,
40:48
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people that don't take the
40:50
Speaker 1: routes that he does. There's a lot of people that
40:52
Speaker 1: have the instincts that he has. It's pretty incredible to
40:56
Speaker 1: watch and what really really separates him from a lot
40:59
Speaker 1: of other guys, And it doesn't get talked about in
41:01
Speaker 1: its game because there's so many parts of his game
41:03
Speaker 1: that we love. This guy's got an absolute cannon for
41:05
Speaker 1: an arm too.
41:09
Speaker 2: Do you know how many walkoffs the Cubs have?
41:12
Speaker 3: Ten?
41:13
Speaker 2: Just guess, Okay, that's your guess. That was closed for
41:17
Speaker 2: both of you. Thirteen and do you know where it
41:20
Speaker 2: ranks in baseball?
41:22
Speaker 1: Number one.
41:25
Speaker 3: Has to be number one, right, Yeah.
41:27
Speaker 2: That's a lot of walkoffs. Thirteen walk off wins for
41:32
Speaker 2: the Cubs this year. I mean, that's just fun. Thirteen
41:34
Speaker 2: times fans at the ballpark. Places filled up for most
41:38
Speaker 2: of the year and you're going home with the last
41:41
Speaker 2: ab deciding the game for your favorite team. That's it's
41:46
Speaker 2: good entertainment right there. It's been a fun way.
41:49
Speaker 1: That's a good way to get people in the ballpark,
41:51
Speaker 1: people to stay too.
41:54
Speaker 2: It is. And I know the team right, like yeah,
41:57
Speaker 2: And like PCA mentioned, they're not in first place. But
41:59
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, if you're a Cubs fan, you
42:02
Speaker 2: should be pretty excited. Right, You've got the MVP front runner,
42:07
Speaker 2: Your team did things at the deadline, you're in the
42:09
Speaker 2: playoff mix, you've had walkoffs, you've had entertainment. Right, You've
42:15
Speaker 2: got a team that looks like it could be dangerous
42:17
Speaker 2: in October based on what the pitching could combine into
42:20
Speaker 2: when guys keep coming back and the run prevention.
42:23
Speaker 1: KP No, No, that was going to be my question
42:26
Speaker 1: to you guys. Okay, let's move forward. You know they
42:29
Speaker 1: play in the wildcart round? Who do you roll out?
42:31
Speaker 1: Who's your three guys that you're trusting in that rotation?
42:37
Speaker 1: You know, because the way it sits right now, with
42:39
Speaker 1: the kind of sizeable lead that they have, much different
42:42
Speaker 1: than last year when they had to run Matthew Boyd
42:44
Speaker 1: out there on short rest. Let's assume that, you know,
42:48
Speaker 1: they stay in this position that they're in and they
42:50
Speaker 1: can actually set that rotation for how they wanted to
42:53
Speaker 1: look in the first run of the postseason. Who do
42:55
Speaker 1: you roll out there? You know, Kevin Gosfler's got to
42:57
Speaker 1: be one of the guys. You went out and acquired
42:59
Speaker 1: him for this moment. But who's the other guys in
43:02
Speaker 1: that rotation you trust?
43:04
Speaker 2: I don't think it's hard for three. I mean I
43:06
Speaker 2: think go ahead, Krats, you go first. You're the former ear.
43:09
Speaker 2: What do you got?
43:10
Speaker 1: Three?
43:10
Speaker 3: Three is easy to pick in my opinion, depending on
43:13
Speaker 3: how Clay Holmes, how he pitches, you know, what happens there.
43:17
Speaker 3: I think he could he could slide anywhere into that three.
43:20
Speaker 3: He could be a bullpen piece depending on how he
43:22
Speaker 3: comes back. I was just on I was just on
43:26
Speaker 3: Fox Chicago this morning and we were talking about it.
43:30
Speaker 3: There is no clear number one. There's no Game one.
43:34
Speaker 3: Even as they're setting it up, there's no clear number one.
43:37
Speaker 3: Do I think Kevin Gosman's splitter is the best pitch
43:42
Speaker 3: in that starting rotation to go into the playoffs? Yes,
43:46
Speaker 3: I think certain types of pitches play in the playoffs.
43:49
Speaker 3: I think that high riding fastball plays because aggression is
43:54
Speaker 3: paramount in the playoffs. But if you're the Cubs right now,
44:00
Speaker 3: you're like, who throws Game one? I get it. Fortunately
44:06
Speaker 3: it's still only August, so we're fine. But how much
44:10
Speaker 3: do you have faith in whoever the first person you're
44:14
Speaker 3: throwing out there is?
44:17
Speaker 2: Kevin Gosman's battle tested and as long as he's feeling good.
44:20
Speaker 2: I know he left the start early, but it wasn't
44:22
Speaker 2: anything big. As long as he's feeling good in October, yeah,
44:25
Speaker 2: cramp Gosman Clay Holmes right now, and it's got to
44:29
Speaker 2: be a little bit fresh, the arms fresh this year
44:32
Speaker 2: like last year. You're worried. Okay, first full season starting.
44:34
Speaker 2: I mean he missed a good chunk of the year
44:36
Speaker 2: and it wasn't an arm injury, so that's good. And
44:40
Speaker 2: then Boyd and Im and Agua are there. I mean
44:41
Speaker 2: that that's a decent four to choose from in my mind.
44:46
Speaker 3: But there's no number one. Who's game one because here's
44:49
Speaker 3: because here's here's where.
44:51
Speaker 2: Kevin Gosmin was was a number one ish starter last
44:54
Speaker 2: year for the Blue Jays through their run. You think
44:56
Speaker 2: it's that much of a drop off from last year
44:58
Speaker 2: to this year.
44:59
Speaker 3: I don't see the same I don't see the same
45:01
Speaker 3: Kevin Gosman. I don't see him out there on the mound.
45:03
Speaker 3: Maybe it's usage, maybe it's not. I do love that splitter.
45:06
Speaker 3: I have no problem with him being the number one,
45:08
Speaker 3: But you go comparatively, you face the Brewers, you're facing
45:12
Speaker 3: the miss I'm not saying they're gonna face the Brewers.
45:14
Speaker 1: I'm saying, let's, hey, let's talk about a team that
45:16
Speaker 1: they would face in the first round, because we're assuming
45:18
Speaker 1: maybe Dodgers.
45:19
Speaker 3: Philly Phi Phi, Zack Wheeler, Christopher Sanchez. You know the
45:24
Speaker 3: Phillies have three better number one, the Dodgers, Yamamoto, Glass,
45:29
Speaker 3: now Snell, Whoever's coming out there. Like that's where that's
45:33
Speaker 3: where my concern where it's just like, oh no, like
45:38
Speaker 3: did they mess up by not finding that number one?
45:41
Speaker 3: I think they've made a really nice team. But without
45:44
Speaker 3: that number one, I'm fearful the Diamondbacks.
45:48
Speaker 2: Shoot.
45:48
Speaker 3: Even if the Diamondbacks make it in, I'm not saying
45:50
Speaker 3: they're going to at that point in the year, they
45:52
Speaker 3: might have to face Corbyn Burns first game of the
45:55
Speaker 3: year the Padres. Okay, I think the Padres are kind
45:58
Speaker 3: of kind of in that that same realm. I think
46:01
Speaker 3: Michael King probably throws the first game of a series,
46:05
Speaker 3: unless I'm forgetting somebody right now, Casey Mies maybe. I
46:11
Speaker 3: think Casey Mies is probably in the Gosman type of
46:14
Speaker 3: could he start up game one? Yeah, the Padres are
46:16
Speaker 3: looking to get to the bullpen. That's what the Padres
46:18
Speaker 3: are looking to get to. But it just feels like
46:21
Speaker 3: you're a little short.
46:26
Speaker 2: That's fair. Is there number one matching up against some
46:30
Speaker 2: of the other number ones that you just mentioned, which
46:32
Speaker 2: are some of the best number ones in baseball that
46:34
Speaker 2: happen to reside in the National League. That's fair. Still
46:37
Speaker 2: like the team?
46:38
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like the Yeah, I love the team. It's
46:40
Speaker 1: just number one aside, it just doesn't feel like you
46:44
Speaker 1: even have a guy that you know has the stuff
46:47
Speaker 1: at this point right now that can go five innings.
46:51
Speaker 1: And not give up a run. It just feels like
46:53
Speaker 1: it's going to be so reliant on the offense having
46:56
Speaker 1: to score runs. At this point, I'm lucky for them.
46:59
Speaker 1: You know, the weather cools down a little bit, hopefully
47:01
Speaker 1: in October. You never know if Clay Homes really kind
47:04
Speaker 1: of regained for one guy that you feel like could
47:07
Speaker 1: shut down an offense, you know, and obviously Kevin Gosman's
47:10
Speaker 1: battle tested. But beyond that, you know, that's really concern
47:15
Speaker 1: is I love the team, I love the offense. How
47:18
Speaker 1: could you not love their defense. It's the best defense
47:21
Speaker 1: in baseball. You could keep the ball in the yard,
47:24
Speaker 1: you've got a chance to get out. But that's really
47:26
Speaker 1: the only concern right now is the starting pitching. Kind
47:30
Speaker 1: of the elite of the elite starting pitching. They have
47:32
Speaker 1: a ton of depth, which you know could serve them
47:34
Speaker 1: well in a long postseason series. But we're talking about
47:37
Speaker 1: a three game series, trying to get out of it,
47:39
Speaker 1: having to go up against you know, a Wheeler Sanchez Lozardo,
47:44
Speaker 1: you know, having to go up maybe against a Chris
47:46
Speaker 1: Saal and whoever kind of follows him, and you know
47:49
Speaker 1: that's where the concern is.
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50:07
Speaker 2: I mean most of what we have today, unfortunately, is
50:10
Speaker 2: just injury update. Ton of Goodman left shoulder strain. He
50:13
Speaker 2: goes on the shelf, and then we get to that
50:15
Speaker 2: time of year where things get tight on some of
50:18
Speaker 2: these injuries and you wonder if they're coming back. Tyler
50:23
Speaker 2: Soderstrom is one of those season ending hip surgery for him,
50:26
Speaker 2: that's going to happen on Friday. Disaster lost season for
50:31
Speaker 2: the as they did not have enough pitching, some of
50:33
Speaker 2: the core position players did not take the next step
50:36
Speaker 2: or were hurt. Bad bad year. I also just think
50:40
Speaker 2: playing in a minor league park is going to take
50:42
Speaker 2: a toll on the team. In general, it just feels
50:45
Speaker 2: like a battle. I mean, I know it's a crazy theory,
50:48
Speaker 2: crazy theory, but just hang with me here. Playing in
50:51
Speaker 2: nicer facilities with a plus professional grade equipment, technology, etc.
50:58
Speaker 2: More helpful than the d CD quality And Ken Rosenthal's
51:03
Speaker 2: article on the A's was incredible too. I think some
51:05
Speaker 2: people don't realize a team that used to be known
51:06
Speaker 2: as moneyball for being very analytically focused and driven, is
51:10
Speaker 2: actually basically at the bottom of the barrel. Now why
51:13
Speaker 2: is that they barely have anyone working in that department
51:16
Speaker 2: so they were not arming David Forced much. Why because
51:19
Speaker 2: the owner didn't want to. So it's kind of crazy.
51:21
Speaker 2: The team that was part of start starting the stir
51:25
Speaker 2: has Like, for example, if you look at the Rays
51:27
Speaker 2: or the Brewers' front office and their ops and their
51:29
Speaker 2: research and development and all those categories, they've got like
51:33
Speaker 2: five six x the employees. Then the A's do.
51:37
Speaker 1: Well, where are they gonna go? In Sacramento they had
51:39
Speaker 1: only even have facilities for their staff to sit in.
51:43
Speaker 1: But you're talking crazy. There's no way you can correlate
51:46
Speaker 1: bad facilities with bad performance. I don't know what you're
51:49
Speaker 1: talking about, Scotty.
51:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the the Rays team really changed a
51:53
Speaker 3: lot from last year, except they went back to a
51:56
Speaker 3: big league park and now they're in the American League. Like,
52:02
Speaker 3: I just wish we had more examples of how teams
52:06
Speaker 3: would start out on a field that's played on every
52:10
Speaker 3: single day at the beginning of the season and now
52:11
Speaker 3: they're doing well, Like Sacramento field is an absolute travesty.
52:16
Speaker 3: And it's not the field conditioned people, or it's not
52:19
Speaker 3: the grounds crew. It's played on for one hundred and
52:22
Speaker 3: eighty straight days. It just can't be a facility, let
52:27
Speaker 3: alone cages. Your dugout is not connected to the clubhouse.
52:32
Speaker 3: The clubhouse is in left field. The facilities around like
52:36
Speaker 3: support staff, training rooms. Oh but it's fine. We're gonna
52:41
Speaker 3: be in Las Vegas in twenty eight, maybe twenty nine,
52:44
Speaker 3: but we'll be there.
52:45
Speaker 2: The neglect there right now, it's painful. It's painful to
52:49
Speaker 2: watch Edwin Diaz. Since we last spoke, US three placed
52:52
Speaker 2: on the injured list and its neck inflammation. I'm never
52:57
Speaker 2: going to judge. I just hadn't heard that one before.
53:00
Speaker 2: Neck inflammation for him below was down, so there's something
53:03
Speaker 2: to figure out. Originally it was like upper body situation.
53:07
Speaker 2: Than the official diagnosis is neck inflammation.
53:10
Speaker 1: So well, breaking news, breaking news. I will not be
53:14
Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow because I also have neck inflammation
53:17
Speaker 1: right now, so I'm taking the day off tomorrow.
53:22
Speaker 2: And is that caused by like looking a certain way
53:25
Speaker 2: for too long? What's next inflammation?
53:27
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes when I sometimes when the head, I think
53:31
Speaker 1: next inflammation is really caused by when you're looking this
53:34
Speaker 1: way and the ball hit that way really fast, you
53:37
Speaker 1: could get a little bit of.
53:38
Speaker 3: Inflammation in the next whiplash we used to call it whiplash.
53:41
Speaker 3: But yeah, my next is sore. But see, I feel
53:44
Speaker 3: like I've had a really good day, So I'm coming
53:46
Speaker 3: back tomorrow.
53:47
Speaker 2: KP awesome, that's great. Uh. Two more Masatake Yoshida significant
53:53
Speaker 2: hamstring strain. He might be out until the end of
53:57
Speaker 2: the regular season, at least, according to his manager or
54:00
Speaker 2: Chad Tracy. But it's not all negative. Roman Anthony hit
54:02
Speaker 2: a danger yesterday at Double A Portland. Everybody saw that,
54:06
Speaker 2: and they're like, call him up right now, call him
54:08
Speaker 2: up right now. He's ready, since he's been hurt. He's
54:13
Speaker 2: been out for over one hundred days.
54:15
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, tough blow. You know, obviously the
54:17
Speaker 1: Red Sox with the turnaround, you know, getting a guy
54:19
Speaker 1: like you sheet it out of a lineup. But I mean, geez,
54:22
Speaker 1: does this not scream like, hey, I know you've been
54:25
Speaker 1: out for one hundred days. One dinger is all I
54:28
Speaker 1: need to see. I'm calling him right now, putting him
54:30
Speaker 1: in the DH spot bubble wrap it I get crazy.
54:36
Speaker 3: No, I mean no, I wouldn't. And the people I
54:39
Speaker 3: talked to said he's going to make his he's going
54:43
Speaker 3: to make his rehab assignments, Like we're not talking about
54:46
Speaker 3: a dude that's thirty four, like a Bryce Harper that
54:49
Speaker 3: was out for one hundred days, and then says, I
54:52
Speaker 3: know what I need. I think it's a little bit different.
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Speaker 3: Roman Anthony's like, you know, he's just finishing his junior
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Speaker 3: year of high school. He's so young. There's it's okay
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Speaker 3: to take time, especially when you're talking about hand wrist
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Speaker 3: fingers like that area. Take your time.
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Speaker 2: It's funny. He's gonna show up in the clubhouse and
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Speaker 2: be like, what did I miss? They're gonna be like, actually,
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Speaker 2: if you just closed your eyes and woke up in
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Speaker 2: mid August, this is about where we thought we would be.
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Speaker 2: We just didn't land there the way we thought we'd
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Speaker 2: get there. But I think without him figured no, but
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Speaker 2: most people probably figured, oh, yeah, the Red Sox they're
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Speaker 2: gonna be one of the wild seats.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just a completely different staff. You know, maybe
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Speaker 1: go around the room and introduce yourself to some of
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Speaker 1: the coaches.
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Speaker 3: Too good call, but no, no way. When they said no,
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Speaker 3: we're not going to meet Bregman's demands, did the Red
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Speaker 3: Sox go, Yeah, we'll be fine as long as Roman
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Speaker 3: Anthony's out for the season. No, No, we're gonna miss
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Speaker 3: one hundred days of Roman Anthony. They're like, Bregman, how
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Speaker 3: much did you want? Like they leaned this season on
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Speaker 3: they are at now.
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