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I Was The Youngest NBA Agent: A Conversation with Meaningful People's Nachi Gordon · None of Your Business Podcast

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  And someone's like, oh, you guys should do this every night for 5
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  minutes. Like, just say some Torah.
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  And we're like, I'm like, who wants to hear us for 5 minutes
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  and maybe hear your favorite speakers?
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  And Instagram has like, this limit on videos.
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  You can only post, like, 60 seconds.
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  I'm like, let's do 60 seconds. I'll like, get you a minute
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  every single day. And someone in the comments were
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  like, yeah, like meaningful in it.
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  And I'm like, yeah. That's where it started.
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  That's the minute came from. March 15th, 2017.
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  None. Of your business Oshi.
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  None of Your Business, Michael. It's the None of Your Business
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  coming up today and I can't wait to introduce you.
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  So I'm just going to go straight into it, guys.
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  Take a look at who's here. I don't think you redhead.
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  I don't even, by the way, the most softly spoken redhead I've
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  ever met in my life. Really tell you, yes, I think
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  I'm just tired. I think I'm just, I think I Once
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  Upon a time wasn't softly spoken and now media trained, you know?
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  You know, I'm going to allow you to introduce yourself simply.
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  Because I can't do that I. Don't think you do that a lot.
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  I think you're always the one that has to have other people
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  introduce themselves. You typically like introduce
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  your guests? Or do you let them introduce
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  themselves? I like just recently, I just
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  like jumping right in and just Incognito boom.
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  Like most of my guests don't even want to hit record and like
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  10 minutes. Then they're like, oh, when are
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  we starting? Like, oh, we started.
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  Well, guess what? We did that minutes ago.
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  Yeah, that's the way you. Know that's the way to go, but.
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  All the big podcasts, that's what they do.
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  They just dive right into it, I think.
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  So, like, if we were just like, you know, in a process of
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  getting to know you, what would you say about yourself now?
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  Can you say hello talk? To the world tours, to our fans,
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  I'm curious to know about not get your background, where are
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  you coming from? How you got started in all of
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  this? You obviously didn't just wake
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  up one morning and say, hey, let me start a podcast.
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  Sure. Lots of things LED up to that.
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  So I'm just curious, like where you come from, where you grew
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  up, where you were, you know, give us a little bit of story.
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  I said what's this button? Is it what happens?
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  That answers a lot of I wasn't. Even sure what I was going to do
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  I'm. Going to be a none of your
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  business, but we're getting. You know, I was just eyeing it
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  down the entire time. That's.
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  Smart. That's smart.
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  Okay, so I am now 29. Why are you young?
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  I I feel old. Wow, I'm young.
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  I did not see that coming. I thought you were old, I.
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  Will be 29 forever. I'm turning 30 soon, but I'm not
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  going to let go of 29. Yeah, you know, but that's when
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  it hits you once you hit. 30 I did it for 30.
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  You're nervous. No, I don't want to age.
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  You don't want to. I still feel like it's.
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  I still remember when I was 19 and I wish I was 19 still.
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  That young, no, I wouldn't want to be 19 anymore.
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  I don't know, that's too young. I feel like I want I'm more
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  developed now and more freedom. I can do what I want for at 19 I
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  was still struggling. I was still like trying to find
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  myself. I'm in my 40's, the 30s was the
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  best. Really.
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  The best decade, right? I agree.
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  Forward to Yeah, 30s are good not to look.
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  Forward to yeah, I'm encroaching on 40 now and I'm not now.
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  I'm nervous but 30s was my best 10 years.
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  I just find that my best get the more like foods I'm trying like.
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  Yeah. Coleslaw becomes a thing.
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  Coleslaw. I love coleslaw.
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  Not Sally Sherman coleslaw anymore.
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  Now it's like the coleslaw from this guy, the Pickles from that
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  guy, that from this guy, right? It's like.
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  Yeah, I saw a great billboard the other day.
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  You guys are business guys. You'd love this.
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  It was an advertisement for Mayo, for mayonnaise.
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  And it was a billboard that said cabbage without Mayo, coleslaw
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  without Mayo is just cabbage. I was like, that's so good.
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  And then and it's just like was an ad for Mayo and like, that's
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  amazing. That that's crazy that Mayo even
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  needs to advertise. Mayo like who?
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  Like what do they advertise ketchup?
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  How do they do ads or? Ketchup, but they're they're
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  like a universal staple, like mayonnaise and and Heinz
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  ketchup. They don't need to and they
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  still do marketing. They still do it.
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  Millions of dollars spent a year advertising for milk.
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  I mean, this is like, you know. Got milk, mustard.
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  Got milk. Has to be one of the best
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  marketing campaigns ever. You know I haven't.
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  Seen it lately though. That's probably that that should
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  be analyzed. That's.
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  Top ten of all time. It's a classic.
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  It's a class. Mayo.
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  You can say happy Cinco de Mayo to people and put put a bottle
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  of Mayo in the sink. OK.
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  So you must be in your 40s. I'll let you.
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  Go first. Exactly.
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  So I yeah, I, I, I started out at a young age.
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  I was in shoe frock way for high school.
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  I mean, I grew up in the five towns.
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  My father owns a newspaper. So media is like in the blood 5
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  towns Jewish Times. Really.
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  Yeah. So, you know, a lot of media, a
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  lot of just, I guess I never thought that that was a, a weird
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  job that he had. And it was always like press,
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  right? So it was always hot stuff
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  happening. I'm like, oh, this is normal.
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  And I don't think it, I don't think it is.
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  I think most parents are like insurance brokers or right or
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  like sell real estate. Or leasing cars.
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  Yeah, leasing cars, but at a young age, I, I think at high
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  school I felt at some point I'm like, I'm wasting time.
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  I was very, I think it was mature for my age and I think
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  maybe I halted at some point in my maturity.
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  So now I'm like stuck, I'm stuck, you know.
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  But I, when I was a member in 1516 in high school, I'm like,
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  there's no way I'm doing the whole high school like that.
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  I'm not doing 4 years of this. Everyone else like running
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  around having a great time. I'm just like, I just want to
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  move on and start a career. And so I, I remember I had a
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  tutor and I remember I called her at the end of 10th grade and
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  I said, how about we finish everything at 11th And I don't
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  do 12th. And I'm the youngest of my
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  family and the youngest of six. My parents are like, they had no
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  idea where I was half the time. They were in Israel, Florida,
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  they were travelling the world. I, I was like my parents, like
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  Bakshan, they're like 72 now. So I'm like really the youngest,
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  youngest Pensacunum, you know, So I'm like, I'm not trying to
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  finish it all 11th grade. And that's what I did.
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  Not a good student, really good tutor.
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  Shout out Missus Katz. Really.
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  You do it? She Yeah, she's like, let's do
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  it. And.
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  And you got. Permission from the school you
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  got. Yeah, school didn't hear E
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  diploma I got no, I got my regions diploma.
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  I got everything Yeah, I took I took like 5 regions.
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  I know you could do that. I took my AC, I took the ACTI
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  took English region, I took Hebrew region, I took I took my
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  science or some. Children.
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  Yeah, high school. No, I, I, I, you know, I'd say
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  high school, like most people should finish high school
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  because you'll have a great time in 12th.
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  Grade Michael, you finish high school.
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  I did not. No, you didn't really.
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  I didn't either. You guys, I.
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  Don't have a? Diploma I don't.
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  Have AGD not. That I was sent to Israel when I
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  was 15 years old. Wow.
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  Spent my teenage years in Israel.
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  That's. Weird.
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  Look at us, man. Look at us.
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  Exactly. That's awesome.
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  What? What should we take away from
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  this? Don't go to high school.
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  Is that no, No, I think we should take away from it as as a
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  parent, if your child has a idea of a unique, a unique way of
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  accomplishing like buy into it. Yeah, they're on different
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  paths. Exactly.
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  There isn't just one conformity. You know you can.
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  You can do different. Things like there there are
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  valedictorians from when I was in high school that literally
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  like I'm not obviously not say their names.
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  I don't remember who they are, but I just don't like they're
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  they're they they peaked right And and like.
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  As a parent decline. Yeah, like, you know, as a
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  parent, like, don't worry if your kids not doing well in high
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  school. Yeah, chances are he'll do well
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  in life. It's true.
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  If you look at the pattern, you can really see like the kids
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  growing up that were somewhat of the nerds, and I put them air
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  quotations, but they're very successful today, you know, and
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  the ones that were very cool, they were very sporty and
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  athletic. They're not doing so hot all the
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  time. It doesn't translate.
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  They're still going to their high school's basketball games,
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  right? They're 38 years old.
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  Right. They're still honing in on that.
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  But yeah, you know, it's not a testament to what's what's to
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  come, you know, But for sure, you never really know.
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  So there are, there's always different paths that people can
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  take and, and the jury's out, you know, We'll see you then.
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  I, yeah, I, I skipped 12th grade.
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  I went to a like a yeshiva for like half the day of a blender
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  of a Weimburger was like a place in the five towns.
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  And I started schooling, I started college.
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  I had this dream of being a sports agent.
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  Like it's what I wanted to do. I, I was, I, I remember watching
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  this, this documentary on ESPN 30 / 30, it's called the Dotted
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  Line. It was following this, this NFL
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  agent. I'm like, I want to do that.
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  And I guess I was like, I'm very headstrong.
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  So I decided like, I want to do that.
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  I'm doing it and I remember I, I went on LinkedIn and I started
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  messaging every single sports agency that was anywhere in the
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  world and say, Hey, I want to intern.
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  I got a couple of opportunities just watching film and trying to
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  just like write stuff about certain players and what not.
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  And and then that that started happening and my whole goal was
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  get a degree because in order to get your MBA players agent
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  certification, you need to have a degree.
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  So I Long story short, I went to college, you know, as any good
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  from Jew. I got my degree in two years
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  somehow, you know, got all the credits, got a bachelor's in who
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  knows what in. Arts, science, I don't know.
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  Bachelor's in putting stickers on a wall.
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  Who knows? You know, like I did that.
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  I, I then I was interning for an agency and then I went to a
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  different one and, and I was getting my feet wet.
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  I was learning the industry, which is a crazy industry.
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  And I, I became a certified MBA agent.
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  I started, yeah. I went to their meetings.
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  I was, I think the youngest one. I was 19 or I was 20, maybe 20.
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  Good. So you you worked for an agency
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  like you got a job? So, so a couple of stops along
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  the way of like doing sort of like medial work.
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  I, I then I worked with this guy from the city who had a sports
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  agency and he, he represented some, you know, mostly overseas
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  guys, guys overseas guys. Julie, I saw my first client
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  with him, guy from he played for Xavier University, Big E What a
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  feeling. Yeah.
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  I remember, I remember driving home one night and I remember it
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  was decision day whether he was going to sign with us.
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  His name was James Farr. He was 6 foot 10270 lbs big guy
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  and I'm like this guy is good. Like MBA needs big guys.
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  So I I was a whole year. By the way, to sign a guy, you
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  need to be with them all year, in their ear at their games,
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  talking to their parents, talking to their friends.
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  That Adam Sandler movie where he like he was a.
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  Oh, yeah, That was a good. That was a good movie.
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  Adam Sandler, it's called. One of his only serious movies.
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  Literally it was uncut. Even then, he's still, you know,
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  you know about this movie. I think I know what you're
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  talking about, HBO. He had to be with him every day
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  of the year. Come on, Steph, come on, we'll
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  find it Something, ball something, I don't know what it.
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  Was anyways. Yeah.
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  So, yeah. So experience to be through.
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  That yeah, yeah, it was it was great.
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  I think you know, and after after that the.
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  Movie. The movie was Hustle.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, good, good stuff.
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  But, you know, you know, I was watching Jeremy Maguire, you
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  know, like that's like, oh, that's the coolest thing ever.
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  I was a huge sports guy. I love sports.
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  I told myself I don't want to be that guy in shul on Friday
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  night. That's just like Hawking about
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  sports with no, I I want to be making money from these guys.
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  Like I want to talk about these players, but actually be you
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  want to. Say end of the game you want.
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  Exactly. I want to be in the game and so
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  that's why I pursued it. And I mean, it was great.
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  I think at the peak I, I worked for this law firm that
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  represented athletes as an agent.
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  I was an agent there and the agency had NBA players like we
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  had they, they represented Robert Covington at some point.
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  Nice. Represented a guy Eric Moreland,
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  who played in the Cavaliers, played in the Kings, represented
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  a guy in the on the Wizards. I forgot, I forgot his last
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  name. One of these 3 point shooters.
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  So my role there was was pretty cool.
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  Like I was we were recruiting guys from college and then
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  preparing well, I was like in charge of scheduling all their
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  NBA workouts. So I'm like talking to the
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  Warriors, the Knicks, the Nets, at any given moment I'm
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  answering these teams and trying to like.
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  And then we had a guy, Damian Dotson, who is coming out of
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  Houston and who is our client and he got drafted by the
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  Knicks. And I look at the peak I was at
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  the draft with him and his family and my boss and sitting
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  there and and it was like, it's this thing.
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  It was so cool. I got it was like literally the
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  coolest thing ever. Like I see my boss get a phone
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  call from the Knicks and like the Knicks are on the clock and
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  like, holy cow, like, wow, he's going to the Knicks.
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  I live in New York. This is a dream come true.
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  Like I and he got dropped by the Knicks and me and Damien spent
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  some time together. I was by his games a lot.
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  I drove down to Philly to the Sixers games, pick him up in the
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  airport sometimes. And, you know, I I went to a
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  Warriors Knicks game with Durant, Curry and and Damien got
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  some playing time. It was it was, it was a lot of
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  fun. It was great.
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  It was great. It was great in the street.
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  It's cutthroat. It's cutthroat.
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  Like you'll be down down there in the Garden and you're with
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  your client. And then Leon Rose walks in and
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  it was the time was the president of CAA.
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  He wasn't the president of the Knicks.
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  And like, oh, awesome. Like CAA is going to steal all
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  our clients, you know, because yeah, they're like the biggest.
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  That's Leon Rose. You know, Leon Rose used to
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  represent LeBron before LeBron hired his friend, you know,
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  Chris Ball. So I think at some point in this
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  whole thing, I, I started something called Meaningful
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  minute. I was like, you know, I started
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  editing these small little clips because I didn't have a long
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  attention span. I think I was driving to
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  Brooklyn. I was driving to Bar Park three
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  nights a week. I was taking EMT course, don't
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  know why. What?
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  Yeah. So during this time that you're
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  exploring the sporting world and the sports.
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  World and and and I'm also taking EMT course.
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  Did you want to be in a cello? No, oh, OK, I can't deal with
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  blood and I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
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  I think a friend like said, what are you taking EMT course?
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  And I'm like, all right, no, I, I, I I don't know.
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  It was crazy. I remember because at the end of
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  the course I had to take AI had to do a rotation with nine on
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  one. I had to be in the senior care
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  ambulance. So I'm like, are you kidding me?
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  Wow, I'm I'm in this thing for 12, 12 hours and I was so scary
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  and I lapsed by the way, I passed and it's been 4 years
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  since I didn't refresh and everyone every once in a while
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  I'm like, maybe I should do it again.
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  And I'm like, no, you know. So you actually got your
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  certification? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I came up. I'm not paramedic, Not
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  paramedic. And what was happening during
• 14:00
  those car rides? There wasn't a lot of podcasts
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  then. Five times the bar, park every
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  night, back and forth for three nights a week for five months, a
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  lot of driving. So what am I listening to?
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  I was listening to like shear him and I'm like, OK, this guy
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  spoke for an hour and 20 minutes and he said like 4 great things.
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  No one's going to hear that because he spoke for an hour and
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  20 minutes. So all right, I worked on my
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  laptop once and I'm like, let me just like cut one clip and I cut
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  a clip and then I cut another clip.
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  And then like, I, I start like sending it out to a few people.
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  And, and then Long story short, I was on Instagram live with my
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  brother when Instagram just rolled out this live feature
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  and, and schmoozing and, and someone's like, oh, you guys
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  should do this every night for 5 minutes.
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  Like just say some Torah and we're like, I'm like, who wants
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  to hear us for 5 minutes? But maybe you hear your favorite
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  speakers. And Instagram had like this
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  limit on videos. You can only post like 60
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  seconds. I'm like, let's do 60 seconds.
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  I'll like get you a minute every single day.
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  And someone in the comments were like, yeah, like meaningful in
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  it. And I'm like, yeah.
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  That's where it started. That's where it came from.
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  March 15th, 2017. My brother's living room.
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  That's like 8 years ago. Something like that yeah on on
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  an Instagram live. I then remember I took out my
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  phone. I made a cheesy looking logo on
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  Canva like really ugly, but I'm like, if I don't do it now, it's
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  not going to happen. I start like a Instagram page of
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  WhatsApp group and that that started remember Fast forward a
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  couple weeks at that point I I woke up and I started sending
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  out these clips and like, oh, sign up guys.
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  First it was family friends and it was people I didn't know.
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  Then I remember like and I was like, dude, I was like living in
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  my parents house. I was a kid.
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  I was what is this? You said it's eight years ago.
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  It was 2120. I was home and like my, I my
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  phone one night was buzzing at 5:00 AM four AMI was like, what
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  is going on? Someone died or something.
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  I look pick up my phone and it was like this guy from the
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  England who messaged me and like, at this point I'm like,
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  who England? I just live in Lawrence.
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  No, the world doesn't exist past Lawrence in Brooklyn.
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  You know, guy from England's like, yeah, your your group
• 15:57
  filled up. So I started another one and
• 15:59
  that filled up. So I started another one.
• 16:00
  So now I have like 3 full groups of people who want to receive
• 16:03
  this video. That's WhatsApp groups, yeah.
• 16:05
  Oh, that? That's when they had a
• 16:06
  limitation of two. 100 and 206 so then I'm like OK so then like
• 16:11
  this thing started like developing Long story short like
• 16:13
  we were like boom like remember I was by the go to convention a
• 16:18
  year later and we had like 13,000 subscribers and I was
• 16:20
  like on there like a good a live thingy and I was like this
• 16:22
  little kid like yeah he started a WhatsApp thing you know like.
• 16:26
  And I understand. So all of this really sounds
• 16:28
  like is happening organically marketing.
• 16:30
  This. No, it was, it was Ton.
• 16:32
  Of effort into this just happening and all of a sudden
• 16:35
  you wake up one day months later you have 13,000 followers it's.
• 16:38
  Crazy. It's crazy.
• 16:39
  It was just, it was, it was just spreading.
• 16:41
  I think that it was almost the first of its kind, like short
• 16:45
  form Torah content wasn't a thing then.
• 16:48
  Right. It was a new concept.
• 16:49
  It didn't. Have it was it was just long.
• 16:51
  Either watch a full share or you watch sports, right and nothing
• 16:56
  else. So that's where that's where,
• 16:58
  you know, that took off and and I would say it started becoming
• 17:04
  very, very serious. So right now it's just you and
• 17:07
  your. Brother it it was really me.
• 17:09
  My brother was working a different full time job.
• 17:11
  He was just me at that point. So you were the one that was
• 17:13
  doing most of the. Work.
• 17:13
  I was doing everything. I was editing the videos, I was
• 17:15
  running the clones, everything. Everything and.
• 17:18
  You had the name already. Meaningful minute at that.
• 17:20
  Point I remember I was driving at one point and I was with my
• 17:22
  family and someone called me and said hey, can I can I sponsor?
• 17:26
  Can I like donate like to meaningful minute?
• 17:28
  I'm like yeah, can I call you back tomorrow?
• 17:31
  Yeah, is that a thing? I'm like, I should make a bank
• 17:34
  account, right? He's like, yeah, I'm like, I
• 17:36
  should probably nonprofit also. Maybe he's like, yeah, I called
• 17:39
  him an accountant bank account. Boom, 51C3.
• 17:42
  That's when. It really becomes real.
• 17:45
  Yeah, when you have to file paperwork with yeah, with your
• 17:48
  IRS and all that stuff, we get a letter with the IRS like that's
• 17:51
  the word becomes real. And then they don't teach you
• 17:55
  that in high school. That's what they should teach
• 17:57
  you. They 100% teach me geometry.
• 17:59
  Yeah. Teach me life stuff.
• 18:00
  Teach. Teach me how to write a proper
• 18:01
  e-mail. Teach me yeah how to construct
• 18:03
  open a bank. Account or taxes like that or
• 18:05
  taxes yeah or taxes you know like that's that's a good thing
• 18:07
  to know about yeah like. Not at a high level, but at a
• 18:10
  very basic level. Very basic like no, you should
• 18:12
  not spend every single dollar that comes in because you don't
• 18:13
  have every dollar that comes in, you know, like.
• 18:15
  Yeah, my friends used to make fun of me when I was at Medline.
• 18:19
  I had a pretty straightforward tax return during that time.
• 18:21
  It wasn't so complicated. I used to go to H&R.
• 18:24
  Yeah. You know, they advertise all
• 18:25
  over the place. So like, even now and my
• 18:27
  friends, every time an ad comes up.
• 18:29
  Oh, shit. Yeah, you're one of their
• 18:30
  customers, You know, by the way, they're they're they're great
• 18:33
  for people that don't have any. Is this?
• 18:35
  A paid ad? Is this a paid ad because like.
• 18:37
  No, no, not at all. Oh wow, we don't.
• 18:38
  Have any of that yet? I was sent to.
• 18:39
  You I had wished that they taught us in school.
• 18:41
  Like OK, when you go to a baseball game, don't sign up for
• 18:44
  the credit card for the free towel.
• 18:45
  Like don't do it 25 times. It's not worth.
• 18:48
  You did that stuff. What I mean, I have probably,
• 18:50
  like, you know, 45 Yankee towels and 25.
• 18:53
  Net towels, you're the reason they're still in business.
• 18:57
  Yeah, I never did that. But what?
• 18:59
  Happened to that person that made that comment of the name.
• 19:01
  Did you ever find that? Yeah, yeah.
• 19:02
  No, I did. Really.
• 19:03
  And she, she knows she I've mentioned her many times.
• 19:06
  I think I mentioned her in the Omni article also like I.
• 19:08
  Did you get anything? Did you send her something?
• 19:09
  Did she get thank you? Yeah, of course.
• 19:12
  Big thank you. Big thank you to her.
• 19:13
  It was funny. We were like throwing out
• 19:15
  different names, like spiritual this, this is that.
• 19:17
  And then we were like in Hebrew names that.
• 19:20
  And she's just not sure, like meaningful in it.
• 19:21
  It's crazy. Like she was a she's a big part
• 19:23
  of it. Yeah.
• 19:24
  She literally just set up this name that now is a household
• 19:27
  name. It's pretty crazy to think of.
• 19:28
  It is, yeah. Yeah.
• 19:30
  But yeah, at some point I was I got married at 23.
• 19:34
  Meaningful minute was Barsham big, so I was at that.
• 19:37
  Time before you got married, you were already starting to become
• 19:39
  known and were you doing the podcast of?
• 19:42
  That yeah, not yeah, but it was. But there was like the clips, it
• 19:45
  was familiarity and and like in my life at that point, I was, I
• 19:49
  owned the sports league in the Five Towns, which was really
• 19:51
  doing great. And it was a single guy with
• 19:53
  great money. Like you were the commissioner?
• 19:55
  Yeah, they owned. Me and a friend started Yeah.
• 19:58
  OK yeah. Or Ezzy Katz, you know, OK, OK.
• 20:02
  Shout out to the father-in-law. Is your father-in-law?
• 20:04
  Yeah. I don't know how you don't know
• 20:06
  that I. Have no.
• 20:07
  Idea. How do you not know that?
• 20:09
  I don't know how how but I know that.
• 20:11
  I can't believe it. I.
• 20:12
  Don't know. Did you know that?
• 20:13
  I did not. But you know, you don't play in
• 20:14
  the league, you play in the league.
• 20:16
  But why would he play the game together?
• 20:17
  Well, unless somebody says something, how would I know?
• 20:19
  What year are you on? Yeah, he was buying.
• 20:21
  He was playing. Seeing you, 2 of you interact, I
• 20:23
  wouldn't know that your father's son-in-law, you could be anybody
• 20:25
  and you know he's the commissioner of the league.
• 20:26
  You're talking that's. Funny that.
• 20:28
  It's very funny. I.
• 20:28
  Actually just saw Ezzy Cats, by the way, I just saw him
• 20:30
  yesterday. Yeah, 2 days ago.
• 20:32
  Sorry. On Sunday I saw him and he was
• 20:34
  eating dinner. He was there with with his wife
• 20:36
  and friends at a new. Restaurant.
• 20:38
  Which restaurant called Mojo? Oh nice.
• 20:40
  Yeah, it's in Teaneck. Yeah.
• 20:42
  Oh, it's where Nobos used to be. Well, thanks for inviting me
• 20:44
  guys. Yeah, so.
• 20:46
  Well, I miss Nobobo. Are they with are they with any
• 20:48
  of my brother in law's or sister I?
• 20:49
  Don't know. I I was being very respectful.
• 20:51
  I went to my side. I was ever friends, so I didn't
• 20:53
  wanna, you know, like this. But it's very annoying, like
• 20:55
  when you go out and like, you know, somebody comes over to you
• 20:58
  and like you have to get an attention and like.
• 21:00
  Cover over. You, I don't want to be bothered
• 21:01
  right now and I don't want to bother you.
• 21:03
  Don't bother me, you know? Things dumb, anybody?
• 21:05
  Yeah. Right.
• 21:05
  Just once you know each other doesn't mean you have to
• 21:07
  approach to. Be I was on a a date with my
• 21:10
  wife. This is probably the best thing
• 21:11
  ever happened. I was on my, I think 5th, 6th
• 21:13
  date. It was getting it was getting
• 21:14
  somewhat serious and we're in fireside and someone came over
• 21:19
  to us and said, are you Nachi Gordon?
• 21:21
  I said, yeah, He's like, I love the work you do.
• 21:23
  You changed my life and I'm on a date and I'm like, like, hand
• 21:28
  this guy 100 bucks. Like, thank you, bro.
• 21:30
  Yeah. That's very well done, by the
• 21:33
  way. I know I was like.
• 21:34
  It looks scripted. It looks too scripted, but it
• 21:37
  was really cool. You get that a lot.
• 21:39
  Yeah, and it's nice. It's very nice.
• 21:42
  People are very nice. I'm sure it can be overwhelming
• 21:44
  and let's let's does it happen to?
• 21:45
  You. Does it happen to you like on a
• 21:47
  daily basis, like if you're going out in the streets, in the
• 21:51
  supermarket or wherever you're going, like people are stopping
• 21:53
  you say hey, you're knocking Gordon, can I take a picture?
• 21:56
  Yeah. What do you think?
• 21:58
  I think I had to happen to me once, right?
• 22:00
  That's why he brought it up. She's a.
• 22:02
  Dream right now, he's listening. How do I deal with this fame?
• 22:06
  I need you to prepare me. For you should be grateful, I
• 22:08
  mean. I gotta tell you, it's a little
• 22:10
  awkward, you know, like I was caught by surprise because,
• 22:12
  yeah, I don't consider myself to be someone that's well known.
• 22:15
  Maybe my inner circle, but that's about it.
• 22:17
  But I went to somebody's vart random place and I was jumping
• 22:20
  in and out. That's what I stopped me.
• 22:22
  And he's like, are you or she from the podcast?
• 22:24
  I said, yeah, so I'm a big fan. I watched all your episodes.
• 22:27
  Can I take a picture with you? And I'm like, yeah, sure.
• 22:29
  I guess I didn't know what was happening, you know, But in in a
• 22:34
  way, it must be nice. It must feel good that people
• 22:36
  want to be around you and they're, you know, but it must
• 22:38
  also be very annoying at some, at some.
• 22:40
  Point. I would say it's.
• 22:41
  It's more annoying for family, my wife, kids, you know, like
• 22:45
  that's like, I remember I was in Palisades Mall and and like this
• 22:48
  whole group of people came over to me and like, I have a
• 22:50
  three-year old freaking out. You know, I'm always like, you
• 22:53
  got to go and I'm talking to this people like for 8 minutes
• 22:57
  and and it's very nice. I I think it's I I will never
• 23:00
  say anything bad about it. Is it overwhelming?
• 23:03
  Yeah. Does it create a certain social
• 23:05
  anxiety for me? Yeah, but that's the me problem.
• 23:08
  That's not a as. You were saying you don't even
• 23:09
  like to be part of big groups. I don't.
• 23:11
  I don't you see? People in this person.
• 23:13
  I know that I live in the Muncie area.
• 23:16
  People still think I live in five towns.
• 23:17
  I don't really go a place A. Private person.
• 23:20
  Yeah, I know. I I'm very private, you know, I.
• 23:22
  You don't. You don't just like, share who
• 23:23
  knows what's going on in your life with the world.
• 23:25
  You know, me and my wife are like very, you'll never see my
• 23:28
  wife, my kids on my platform. Anything to the point.
• 23:31
  Like people like Redmi Shidakum, they don't know I'm married.
• 23:33
  It was just funny. It's like my wife, like my wife
• 23:36
  thinks it's hilarious. Sorry, ladies, I have two kids
• 23:41
  who are, you know, like, but I it it happened it it has started
• 23:47
  happening. When I was younger, it was like
• 23:48
  really funny. When I was single, I was like
• 23:50
  like this is interesting. After the podcast started it, it
• 23:55
  really got a lot and now it's now it's.
• 23:58
  When did the podcast start? When did that next phase?
• 24:00
  So podcast started probably a couple years after meaningful
• 24:03
  and I'd say 2020. I think like getting a COVID
• 24:05
  podcast started. I, I, I just felt like, you
• 24:08
  know, I was listening to a lot of Guy Raz, NPR, how I built
• 24:10
  this. I'm Joe Rogan.
• 24:12
  I'm like, podcasts are cool. There's not a there's not really
• 24:14
  any in the from world. I think there was maybe 1 and
• 24:17
  I'm like, this is this is cool. I remember I made a few
• 24:19
  meaningful minute events I've had like what really?
• 24:21
  Why would Jacobson and Charlie or already?
• 24:23
  And we filled up a room with 1000 people and I found that
• 24:25
  people are just like waiting online for 20 minutes, just two
• 24:27
  words to them. Like how how awesome it be if
• 24:29
  people could like know more about them, right?
• 24:31
  Like, why would Jacobson is not necessarily always the person
• 24:34
  you see on that podium. He also, like I, I interviewed
• 24:37
  him recently for the second time.
• 24:39
  He has anxiety. He was pulling his hair out as a
• 24:41
  kid from his head because he has, you know, and.
• 24:44
  He's a real person. These are real struggles.
• 24:46
  That we do exactly. And I, and I saw that because I
• 24:48
  was working like close to a lot of these rabbis, like I was like
• 24:51
  ultimately like the biggest marketing tool for them, like
• 24:55
  getting their classes and their speeches out to 10s of
• 24:58
  thousands. Win win.
• 24:59
  Everybody is benefiting from this for.
• 25:01
  Sure. And and so I had this real
• 25:03
  desire to like get people to know them more, like completely
• 25:06
  just remove that gap of like, oh, that guy is so untouchable.
• 25:11
  No, you know that's. What Trump did on Joe Rogan.
• 25:14
  Exactly, he went. There and he mingled with the
• 25:16
  people for. Three hours, he.
• 25:17
  Hung out with us for three hours.
• 25:19
  We got to see a whole different side of him.
• 25:21
  Yeah. And people feel connected to
• 25:22
  that person. I think that's what Podcast
• 25:24
  really does. It it tears down.
• 25:25
  Yeah, it's almost like what someone's doing today.
• 25:28
  Yeah, it's amazing. I'm.
• 25:29
  I'm loving this. Is this real not important One
• 25:32
  of the? Things that I'm thinking about
• 25:33
  is that a meaningful minute probably takes you hours to put
• 25:37
  together. I mean, yeah.
• 25:38
  I would appreciate that like. Tell me about that.
• 25:40
  I used to make all of them for the first two years I edited and
• 25:44
  I did every single one of them. And I'll tell you, there are
• 25:46
  times where it took me 3-4 hours to make one minute because I was
• 25:50
  like, no, no, no. What is the ROI on a 62nd clip?
• 25:55
  It can't be 10 seconds. It's got to be 45 plus seconds
• 25:57
  of fire. The guy is giving over a message
• 26:00
  that could turn a cat into a lion.
• 26:01
  You know, it's got to be something that is going to send
• 26:03
  you for the day. That's like, OK, this is good.
• 26:05
  And this is before cap cut. This is before.
• 26:07
  Cap cut. I'm like learning.
• 26:09
  I think it was iMovie or final cut.
• 26:10
  I was like, I had a laptop and I just started like that was like
• 26:14
  the expense of the organization at the time.
• 26:15
  It was a phone and a laptop, you know, thank God.
• 26:19
  Now we're, we're over $1,000,000 budget a year.
• 26:22
  So it's like it will get there, but it's grown in an insane
• 26:25
  amount and we're, we're in the coolest position ever.
• 26:27
  What we're able to do. So yeah, it, it took forever.
• 26:31
  Sometimes I'd it's. That first moment.
• 26:33
  It's COVID time you're starting. To start the podcast, what?
• 26:36
  Was your first guest. How do you?
• 26:37
  Even take care of some. Eight time finer, really.
• 26:40
  And like it didn't. It didn't get better, didn't get
• 26:42
  better. The the, the Why did he agree?
• 26:45
  To do it like you don't know you don't have a name yet at that
• 26:47
  point. He, you know, like he knew my
• 26:49
  father. And like there is some.
• 26:51
  Community familiarity. I don't think this is the funny
• 26:54
  part I've made events in the white children right Finder had
• 26:56
  introduced so I had AI had a report with him.
• 26:58
  We had a relationship. I brought Robert Jacobson to the
• 27:00
  to the white Jewel and it was very good for the White Jewel
• 27:03
  and. What's this white shul?
• 27:05
  What? Do you mean it's a shul?
• 27:06
  It's called the white shul. It's not even white.
• 27:08
  I don't get it. How how to get it it's?
• 27:10
  A really nice shul. I don't know why it's called.
• 27:12
  Is there? A black shul somewhere down the
• 27:13
  street, like competition, like a white.
• 27:15
  A few blocks further down, it's Rachel, like a red Rachel.
• 27:18
  They have Rachel. I don't know, Rachel I don't,
• 27:20
  because Rachel used to talk to me, like in a Red House, right?
• 27:23
  I don't know. White shul.
• 27:24
  Must have been also in a white shul.
• 27:25
  Interested. I think the firestands also has
• 27:28
  AW. W it does have that's on
• 27:30
  Wedgewood the it's it's the block, but not because of the
• 27:33
  world of a story, although some of the guys there think it's the
• 27:35
  story they. Like to think?
• 27:36
  Yeah, I used to die in there. It's the block away from my
• 27:38
  house. A good time.
• 27:39
  It's good people did. The rabbi know you.
• 27:41
  So he Finder knew me and I think I'm pretty sure he thought he
• 27:44
  was coming to the studio to record like a minute.
• 27:47
  He wasn't even prepared for what was coming.
• 27:49
  And all of a sudden I sit down, we start asking questions about
• 27:52
  his life and about, and he has a life like he, he has a, he has
• 27:55
  one child, which they, they, they struggled for years to have
• 27:59
  that one child. And that child was born for the
• 28:02
  first hour was a perfect baby. And then something went wrong
• 28:06
  and that baby turned into now, which is a probably a 1516 year
• 28:09
  old boy who is, I don't think verbal, non verbal wheelchair,
• 28:13
  you know, bound special needs child.
• 28:17
  And that's their only child. That's their only child.
• 28:19
  And I think they were living in Israel even at the time and they
• 28:22
  they moved here. And it, it's just quite a story,
• 28:25
  a rug being so vulnerable talking about his challenges.
• 28:28
  So. He talked about that.
• 28:29
  He talked about his experience. Opened up, I think that was like
• 28:31
  the success of everything that you know, like meaningful people
• 28:34
  was just like the 1st guest set the framework of like this is a
• 28:37
  thing where your people are going to be vulnerable and open
• 28:39
  up and not, not try to. Like you want to inspire?
• 28:42
  Others. When you're vulnerable, it opens
• 28:44
  up other people's hearts and they realize, you know, it's,
• 28:47
  it's gives people hope. It gives people.
• 28:48
  I think it one of the things he said is like as a rabbi, as a
• 28:51
  Rav, a big Rav who deals with a lot of the Charlotte's in the
• 28:54
  Five towns, a lot of the stuff that comes in dealing with a lot
• 28:56
  of the, you know, marital stuff. And it's just, you know, stuff
• 29:00
  that come up. I I remember him saying that he
• 29:02
  cries himself to sleep many nights just based on the on the
• 29:05
  things he has to deal with. What's going on in the
• 29:07
  communities? And the thing that people.
• 29:08
  Yeah. Or talk about.
• 29:09
  Wow, someone being human, like, that's crazy, right?
• 29:13
  So I I so that was an amazing episode, that one like probably.
• 29:15
  Used it again that that episode. I don't know, Steph, how many
• 29:20
  views were you getting early on? It wasn't from the beginning.
• 29:23
  It wasn't. It was, I think it was
• 29:24
  relatively a lot. I mean it was more than zero.
• 29:27
  It was probably a few 1000, I'd say audio I'm trying to remember
• 29:30
  audio is getting maybe like a few thousand 34000 an episode
• 29:35
  YouTube, maybe like 6-7 thousand.
• 29:39
  It was like, oh wow, this is cool.
• 29:40
  Like this is really cool and is. That when you started noticing
• 29:45
  that OK, I'm on to something here.
• 29:47
  Yeah, I think, I mean we just it just the the goal is to keep
• 29:50
  doing it and check it out in a year and see if this is good or
• 29:53
  not. I think that, you know, it kept
• 29:56
  going and and built something pretty special.
• 30:00
  Yeah. Very special, yeah.
• 30:02
  You, you're by far, I want to say the largest podcast, Jewish
• 30:07
  Orthodox religious podcast in the country.
• 30:11
  I I don't think there's anybody that that has a bigger platform
• 30:14
  than you do right now. I don't think so.
• 30:16
  I mean, you have an amazing reach, God.
• 30:18
  Will you guys? Your your reach is what's
• 30:21
  amazing. It's not just One Direction,
• 30:23
  it's. It's more than I know.
• 30:24
  And I honestly, that's the thing.
• 30:25
  I I, I like, I turned to the most and pride myself the most
• 30:29
  on, you know, like in the beginning stages of meaningful
• 30:31
  minute, I had gotten calls from different bigger organizations
• 30:35
  that wanted to kind of like swallow it up, like become one
• 30:38
  of ours. Yep, you know, come here, we
• 30:39
  have candy, you know, and I'm just and, and, and something in
• 30:42
  me is like, that's where we lose it all like.
• 30:46
  You're talking about larger Jewish organizations like an
• 30:48
  Aguda type like. Yeah, like the type.
• 30:49
  Like those type, I'm not naming anybody, but I'm saying yeah,
• 30:52
  yeah, do a podcast for us and you'll be the host.
• 30:54
  We'll pay. Yeah, like.
• 30:56
  Even even before the podcast meaningful minute like do it
• 30:58
  under. Our you know, we'll fund it.
• 30:59
  You were probably enticed a little bit.
• 31:01
  I was like, OK, it's really cool, but also no, you know,
• 31:06
  like good for you. I I was not yeshivish.
• 31:09
  It was not modern, probably considered mainstream, but like
• 31:13
  I, I wanted to cater to the world, to the Jewish world, to
• 31:16
  everybody, to the modern person, to the Balchuva, to the guy in
• 31:19
  liquid learning 3 Saddam. I wanted to cater to everybody.
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  And I think that the coolest thing about meaningful people
• 31:24
  and meaningful men in general is that we cater to everybody.
• 31:28
  Like we really? You can go into a block in
• 31:32
  Lakewood and ask them if they know what it is and they will.
• 31:34
  Yep. And you can go to Teaneck or you
• 31:37
  can go to Baltimore, or you can go to Bal Harbour.
• 31:39
  You can go to Israel. I have non Jewish friends that
• 31:42
  it's impacted. I've spoken to them in the past
• 31:45
  and the reason is the common denominator is that it's
• 31:48
  meaningful, right? And meaningful is the language
• 31:50
  that everyone speaks, right? So it's like, you know,
• 31:52
  inspiring people want to grow. People have that, you know,
• 31:55
  feeling inside like doesn't matter where you're coming from,
• 31:57
  for sure you. Know what the real anomaly is
• 31:59
  like What? Really kind of change the game
• 32:01
  is that people are, you know, used to be back in the day, like
• 32:04
  we were taught from our parents, like something goes wrong, you
• 32:06
  shove it under the rug, you hide it, you don't let the neighbors
• 32:09
  know, right? You, you try to keep everything
• 32:11
  in house right now. I think in our society today,
• 32:14
  it's become more acceptable. We're not just acceptable.
• 32:17
  People are very receptive that there are real problems going on
• 32:20
  in the world. People have real struggles in
• 32:22
  the world and they're sharing it, opening up.
• 32:25
  They're actually allowing others in and it's making us all better
• 32:28
  for it, right? And we're all growing from each
• 32:30
  other. Well, we always say at prime
• 32:31
  source, you know, we're, we're, we're not the experts, but
• 32:34
  together we are the experts. With all the knowledge that we
• 32:37
  accumulate from everyone we sharing with each other, we
• 32:40
  become stronger. And the only way and the only
• 32:42
  way change happens is if it's it's if it's discussed, it's
• 32:46
  grassroots. I think that like maybe post
• 32:48
  Holocaust there was just so much going on that it the world, we
• 32:51
  just, I can't blame them. Like they weren't going to be
• 32:53
  like, OK, well we survived Auschwitz, now let's talk about
• 32:55
  Shidokhan. Like it just wasn't right.
• 32:57
  It was like we're alive, let's live.
• 32:59
  And they were just, I don't know.
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  It's a great. Point.
• 33:02
  It is a great point, but you don't.
• 33:03
  Even think about that like no. For real like.
• 33:05
  They had bigger problems to deal with.
• 33:06
  They had a lot bigger fish to fry.
• 33:07
  Sure. Like dude, like they're they
• 33:09
  literally just even take it a step further.
• 33:12
  The kids of Holocaust survivors grew up and my mother is a a
• 33:16
  she's a daughter of survivors. What do you think they went
• 33:19
  through? Yeah, it's it's crazy.
• 33:20
  It's crazy. And and how far are we removed
• 33:23
  from that? A couple of generations.
• 33:25
  That's it. Not that far.
• 33:26
  That's it. It's really not that far.
• 33:27
  So like how far? Snippets of that reoccur today.
• 33:29
  We're starting to see a dynamic that existed then that's really
• 33:33
  reoccurring again today. We're starting to see some of
• 33:35
  that. Yeah, it's scary.
• 33:37
  It is scary. And I think that like, God runs
• 33:41
  the world. But obviously I I hope as a
• 33:43
  Jewish people we are reacting differently.
• 33:46
  I think we have a little more chutzpah.
• 33:47
  I don't know what they had. Back then, a little.
• 33:49
  More like a little more chutzpah, a little more.
• 33:54
  We're not going to run and hide. We're not going to hide our
• 33:56
  Judaism. Yeah, how do you deal with the
• 33:59
  hate? I'm I'm sure.
• 34:00
  There's hate, do. You get a lot of hate in the.
• 34:02
  Beginning, I got a lot of hate. But what's there to hate, even
• 34:04
  like I was? I'm talking about even people
• 34:05
  that are hating on Jews. I'm talking about people.
• 34:06
  That's what you mean? Yeah, I'm talking about
• 34:08
  everything. All the hate people from within
• 34:09
  your circle and. I was talking a different kind
• 34:11
  of hate. But yeah, we can address both
• 34:13
  After, after, after October 7th, I, I went to the city, I sat
• 34:17
  down, I made a table, I brought a film crew, also security.
• 34:21
  And I had a sign that said, how does it feel to be Jewish right
• 34:25
  now? It is on a February 10th and we
• 34:28
  had people sit down, a lot of college Columbia students,
• 34:31
  people who are walking over that were taking their Yamahas out of
• 34:33
  their jacket pockets and putting it on their head.
• 34:35
  They were, they took it off and it was, it was, it was like
• 34:38
  really it went viral. There was a few 100,000 views on
• 34:40
  YouTube, the YouTube shorts from it like also like millions of
• 34:43
  views. It was really crazy.
• 34:47
  But I think that's the first time as a Jew, I felt scared in
• 34:50
  the city and I have security, armed security, right?
• 34:54
  I called Richie Taylor to say, Hey, can you send me some, you
• 34:57
  know, he sent me some MIPT 2. He's like, I got you and he did
• 35:02
  and for good reason. Free Palestine.
• 35:04
  You guys are killing baby. Like people yelling at me
• 35:07
  somewhere in yarmulke in the city.
• 35:09
  It's a crazy thing. It's a crazy thing.
• 35:11
  And if someone doesn't go to the city that someone doesn't have
• 35:13
  to do these things for their job.
• 35:15
  They they may not know about it and they could play it down like
• 35:17
  it's not a such a big deal, like no people deal with this.
• 35:20
  People have taken off their yarmulke.
• 35:21
  People have hidden their like they hide down and it's it's not
• 35:24
  OK. It's not OK and.
• 35:27
  Wow, I was very brave of you that you that you even did that.
• 35:30
  I'm crazy. That's very brave.
• 35:31
  My, my, I don't think my, my father is not happy with it.
• 35:34
  He's like, dude, what are you doing?
• 35:35
  Like, why you? This is what are you doing?
• 35:37
  I'm like, I have security. Like this is what?
• 35:40
  This is what we're gonna do. It's listen, when I was in the
• 35:44
  sports world, I always were Yamaka and I I could have gone
• 35:46
  by Michael. I went by Nachi and good luck.
• 35:48
  Damien Dotson saying the word Nachi, right, right.
• 35:50
  You know, and and we're Yamaka and and like, this is who I am.
• 35:53
  You have a questions. It's funny because like remember
• 35:55
  being after a game in in I think the Wells Fargo Center in in in
• 35:59
  Philadelphia by Sixers game and Damian's like eating shrimp
• 36:02
  after the game is like you want Someone Like You really don't
• 36:04
  get it, dude. You really like they're.
• 36:06
  Oblivious, they don't. Understand most of the world is
• 36:08
  you go up in Houston and and some like like what do you know
• 36:11
  the the. People that we work with like
• 36:13
  for a long time, and they're not Jews.
• 36:15
  They're like more Jewish than a lot of the people we know.
• 36:17
  Like they know a lot more like they're.
• 36:18
  Very into it. They're very into it.
• 36:19
  It's true. Yeah, I have.
• 36:20
  To tell you, I was in the city, by the way, that week, the week
• 36:23
  after, and I went to a rally and I had an Israeli flag and I was
• 36:27
  walking to my car on the way back and I was getting yelled at
• 36:30
  and really like, scary times. I didn't have security.
• 36:33
  I didn't know Richie at the time.
• 36:34
  Yeah. And she's the best.
• 36:35
  I have to tell you something what I did and I, I think it
• 36:38
  worked. And I I'd like to give a tip to
• 36:40
  anyone, whoever. Told us in the last podcast.
• 36:42
  Afraid did I say it, I went live.
• 36:44
  Yeah, I was very smart. Yeah.
• 36:45
  What did you do? You went.
• 36:45
  On my phone and I said we're live right now, nobody wanted to
• 36:49
  mess with it really. I.
• 36:50
  Always thought you were going to say just just act even crazy
• 36:53
  like they go crazy, like show them a new level of crazy.
• 36:56
  No, listen, by the way, I think it's worse now than it was then.
• 37:01
  I mean, I think it's worse now. We're in December a year plus
• 37:04
  later. It's worse now.
• 37:06
  The climate it's spread in in the city is worse now.
• 37:09
  If you, I mean, if you go to with an Israeli flag now to
• 37:11
  Manhattan, I think you be unfortunate a lot far worse than
• 37:15
  it was October 10th. But you.
• 37:17
  Understand why? Because people are now even more
• 37:20
  upset that Israel is still in this war and there's still no
• 37:25
  ceasefire, so they're getting more agitated about it.
• 37:27
  So now there are more people on that bandwagon.
• 37:29
  I think it's, I think it's I, I don't think it's the reason.
• 37:31
  I think it's, it's, it's Jew hatred.
• 37:33
  It's, it's in the mother's milk for some of these people.
• 37:35
  It's not, it's no, it's just coming out.
• 37:37
  They don't know. They don't know they're.
• 37:39
  About to get more? They don't.
• 37:40
  Know you think these people know what's going on in the news.
• 37:43
  If you ask them to point out where Israel is on the map,
• 37:45
  they'd have no idea, right? This is not Israel.
• 37:48
  They're so invested in this. Israel.
• 37:49
  These are these are just tropes, anti-Semitic stuff that have
• 37:52
  been passed down for generation. Generation this is this is this.
• 37:55
  Is this is? Yeah.
• 37:57
  I have an employee who lives in Amsterdam, Naomi.
• 37:59
  She's, she's a really big part of our team.
• 38:02
  A few weeks ago, what happened there?
• 38:04
  Her and her husband staying indoors because dude, like
• 38:07
  they're lynching people. Wow.
• 38:08
  Why should this? Like this is in Europe in 2024.
• 38:11
  What what is going on here? You know, so use my platform to
• 38:15
  speak about those things that I also love to do, you know, speak
• 38:19
  to soldiers, speak to people who are involved in this and to sort
• 38:22
  of like show the truth, show who the Jewish people really are.
• 38:26
  Yeah. The other hate.
• 38:27
  And that's, that's the hate that we all deal with.
• 38:29
  The other hate is, is sort of, I think I got very early on which,
• 38:34
  which is like, who do you think you are, your 20 year old kid?
• 38:38
  You're not. You're not Dastera, right?
• 38:40
  You're not a rough, you don't have a beard.
• 38:43
  You guys hear that? You know all.
• 38:44
  Those people, probably those people after they went with,
• 38:47
  Gee, they're coming to us now, probably.
• 38:48
  But like I got that from a young age and and it was it was a lot
• 38:54
  to deal with. I remember, I mean, I said this
• 38:56
  over I I was at AI got hired by pay stock hotel last year and I
• 38:58
  said this over on on a panel and it was a Chava.
• 39:02
  So I don't think I ever said this on a podcast.
• 39:03
  I don't think maybe I don't know, but I was in camp Monk for
• 39:08
  15 summers. I was head waiter there.
• 39:09
  I literally like got engaged. I like got engaged in August.
• 39:12
  I was in Monk that summer. I was dating my wife from camp.
• 39:14
  You know, I was like very time. Yeah.
• 39:16
  I was like, I love camp. It was it was amazing.
• 39:17
  I was head waiter. I was.
• 39:18
  I was camp. Monk has a great reputation.
• 39:20
  I know they hold on to it, but it was a great place and
• 39:25
  meaningful. When I started I it was it was
• 39:27
  functioning from there. I had a computer up in one of
• 39:29
  the buildings. Sorry Monk, I don't know if you
• 39:30
  knew that but I had bought my own Wi-Fi and I got a letter to
• 39:38
  Camp Monk from Shinershule was the address which I learnt
• 39:43
  later. Which obviously was meaningless
• 39:45
  because Louis Shiner did not send me this letter.
• 39:47
  Right Louis? Right It wasn't him, it was it
• 39:50
  was someone using it as a front because this letter was 4 pages.
• 39:54
  Remember going to the office because I never got a letter.
• 39:56
  I thought, hey mommy, you wrote me a letter and Nope, shouldn't.
• 39:59
  It was had written this letter. It was typed, it was typed OK,
• 40:02
  typed. It was 4 pages and I, if I could
• 40:04
  tell you, if you ever watch a roast, this was 10 times worse
• 40:08
  than any roast. Oh my God, it was and I know
• 40:11
  this person, this person know me, but it was along the lines
• 40:12
  of like, who do you think you are?
• 40:14
  You're never going to get married.
• 40:16
  You're you're something bad is going to happen for you to wake
• 40:19
  up to think that you have a, you have a voice in this Jewish
• 40:21
  world. You're not dastura.
• 40:23
  You're you're pompous. Like I'm just like reading this
• 40:27
  letter and I was, I was white as a ghost and Missus monk was in
• 40:32
  the office. She's like, what, what happened?
• 40:33
  I'm like, look at this. I had she handed her the papers
• 40:37
  and she read it and she's like, can you give me a bracha?
• 40:42
  I'm like, because you just got ripped to pieces and you're
• 40:46
  embarrassed. Now give me a bracha.
• 40:48
  Give me a bracha for my like I said, give my my daughter, she
• 40:51
  got married. So your daughter, she got
• 40:52
  married, daughter got married the next day.
• 40:54
  No kidding. Her daughter got married.
• 40:56
  Her daughter got married. Seven a month.
• 40:58
  But I would have been. I know, I know.
• 41:00
  But I was. I was like, holy cow, I remember
• 41:05
  showing it to, I sent it to my Rebbe and he's like, welcome to
• 41:09
  the big leagues. Exactly.
• 41:10
  Now you know that, you know you made it.
• 41:11
  Now you know you're doing, you have a target on your back.
• 41:13
  Now you know you're doing something right.
• 41:14
  I hope you have that on your wall somewhere.
• 41:15
  By the I, I, you know, I had it in my knapsack.
• 41:18
  You know, like everyone, like you get married, you go in laws.
• 41:20
  This I yeah, that one knapsack. So I had it in my knapsack.
• 41:23
  I wonder if it's still there. I had it.
• 41:24
  I carried it with me everywhere, which is probably not healthy,
• 41:26
  but I carried it with me everywhere and and I had this
• 41:32
  feeling of like, oh man, I'm going to prove you wrong.
• 41:36
  You have no idea who you messed with.
• 41:37
  You have no idea the fire you lit.
• 41:39
  And as you know, I had a great Rebeam in life, mostly 10%.
• 41:46
  No, I had a great rebeam. But high school the way it is in
• 41:49
  school in general, it's not it's not made for the kids outside
• 41:54
  the box a little bit. It's just any system.
• 41:57
  A system is a system. And if you fit into you have 30
• 42:00
  kids in a class with I would say a lot of the teachers are Bam
• 42:03
  did not get me. They're like, cool, what are you
• 42:05
  doing? You know, and it could be I
• 42:09
  heard heard some things along the way that were very like,
• 42:14
  dude, if you don't do this, that's this, what are you going
• 42:16
  to? You're not going to be much and.
• 42:21
  Well, I'm happy that you didn't hold a lie because this wouldn't
• 42:25
  have all developed. Right.
• 42:26
  Yeah, a little fire. Outcome is phenomenal.
• 42:28
  Yeah, a little fire. I I'd say a little fire.
• 42:30
  I wasn't. I when I walked him into the
• 42:31
  office today, I introduced him to one of our employees here,
• 42:36
  our director of operations, and she follows his his podcast
• 42:39
  religiously. She watched the episode.
• 42:41
  You should have seen her eyes light up when he went into the
• 42:42
  room. Like, why is like not because
• 42:45
  like, you know, he's a big sports player.
• 42:46
  He knows how to dunk a basketball because he inspires
• 42:49
  her. He actually makes a difference
• 42:51
  in her life that he makes her feel better about herself.
• 42:54
  And the things that he puts out there, the content that he puts
• 42:56
  out there gives her hope. It gives her meaning, right.
• 42:59
  And you're doing this for thousands, hundreds of thousands
• 43:01
  of people potentially that you're doing this for.
• 43:03
  It's a huge responsibility, but I think you're doing it well.
• 43:05
  You should be very, very proud of yourself.
• 43:08
  And I will say this, Michael, I, I, we have a daunting task ahead
• 43:11
  of we are not inspirational people.
• 43:14
  Like, you know, like people would ask us, who do you think
• 43:16
  you are? You're you're a rabbi.
• 43:17
  Why do you think you have a voice?
• 43:19
  We probably don't have that kind of voice.
• 43:21
  Like I see our podcast being somewhat more of entertainment
• 43:23
  more than anything, you know, and, and weigh in on current
• 43:26
  events. So.
• 43:27
  Kosher Entertainment. Exactly right.
• 43:29
  We don't want to get, you know, which is important.
• 43:31
  Yeah, not dirty. We don't want.
• 43:32
  To be PG13PG13. I don't, I don't think that I
• 43:35
  think that I think has changed. Over the years, movies or TV
• 43:37
  shows under your podcast. Make a reference, but I wouldn't
• 43:40
  like talk about it. Right.
• 43:40
  We would talk about that here. We would talk about an actor in
• 43:43
  Hollywood, something that's going.
• 43:43
  On What's your favorite movie? That's a that's a tough
• 43:46
  question. You know.
• 43:47
  Favorite movie of all time? Yeah.
• 43:49
  That's a war, dogs. By the way, if you if you Google
• 43:52
  fav top 10 movies of all time, pretty much every single like
• 43:56
  you know, reputable source will give you the same movie list.
• 44:00
  So I'm gonna go with one of those like to be safe.
• 44:02
  Like, you know, Shawshank Redemption.
• 44:03
  Bingo, that was my. But that's a very That's the.
• 44:05
  Craziest thing, they show that on a bus.
• 44:08
  I don't know. I'm gonna say who, but like, we
• 44:09
  were in camp one summer and we went to Niagara and like, I
• 44:12
  think that this one counselor wanted to be rebellious and
• 44:14
  instead of Agent Ms., he put in Shawshank Redemption.
• 44:16
  Nice. He was a celebrity and we were
• 44:17
  all like, he's a hero. What, what is this is that is
• 44:21
  that Morgan Freeman? Like we're in camp, you know?
• 44:24
  You know when you're in camp, you're in a bubble like nothing
• 44:26
  exists outside of me. No, I'm, I'm, I'm a little bit
• 44:29
  older than you, but I went, I went to camp Monk and I.
• 44:30
  Remember. Oh, you did.
• 44:31
  Yeah, and I remember first rain day I was ever in camp, they
• 44:35
  showed Star Wars. No way.
• 44:36
  Yeah, really. That's come a long way from
• 44:39
  there, I think. The first one was Shawshank that
• 44:42
  broke open. That's why, that's why What's.
• 44:45
  Your favorite movie? I said.
• 44:47
  A very safe one. I'm going to change my answer.
• 44:49
  I want to change it to The Godfather.
• 44:51
  Godfather 1-2 not 3, not. Three, I do want to teach you
• 44:54
  guys something that I've learnt recently.
• 44:55
  When anyone asks me what's your favorite of anything, I respond.
• 44:59
  In what scenario? Where am I?
• 45:01
  I I respond generally today like what's my favorite?
• 45:03
  Yeah, OK. Yeah, like I have a different
• 45:05
  favorite exactly every. Season My favorite restaurant
• 45:07
  when I'm You know, going out for dinner in Israel is one thing,
• 45:11
  you know when I'm in. You're both overcomplicating
• 45:13
  this. Reservoir Dogs because that's my
• 45:17
  all time favorite. But one thing is you're you're I
• 45:20
  never never watch you never watch it, never watch Godfather,
• 45:23
  never watch Reservoir Dogs. I don't think I'm a big like I'm
• 45:27
  a I'm a media junkie, right? I love media.
• 45:28
  I love film, right. I love like the I love cinema,
• 45:32
  like what they're what you're able to accomplish with with
• 45:35
  movies. And I I overthink it.
• 45:37
  Like I'm not like, oh, oh, Transformers, Aww, sci-fi.
• 45:41
  I couldn't care less about those things.
• 45:44
  I think you show me stuff like Defiance about the Belsky
• 45:49
  brothers. Great movie, phenomenal great
• 45:51
  movie about these these brothers who.
• 45:53
  Three brothers who. Literally saved Jewish lives
• 45:55
  during the war. Yeah.
• 45:56
  Daniel Craig, I think, yeah, like he was excellent.
• 45:58
  Surprise, surprise. You like meaningful movies?
• 46:00
  Yeah. I know I get.
• 46:02
  Yeah, you know, you know, I like.
• 46:03
  What's the most meaningful movie that you can that you you have
• 46:06
  seen that people have to experience something like
• 46:09
  Oscar's Like if you have a kid, I'll see if you.
• 46:11
  Have a kid? Your kid needs to watch.
• 46:14
  Wonder, wonder, wonder. Jacob Jacob Tremblay.
• 46:18
  The kid who has kid has a disease.
• 46:21
  His face is all. What's it called?
• 46:22
  He has a disease. I don't.
• 46:23
  Remember the name Julia Roberts in that movie?
• 46:25
  Julia Roberts in the movie. But this kid, Jacob Tremblay,
• 46:27
  he's probably he's probably 5 years old, six years old.
• 46:29
  He's an he's an actor at that time.
• 46:30
  But it's about this kid who has some facial deformity and he
• 46:34
  would wear like an astronauts mask 'cause he was about to
• 46:37
  bully him. It is a must watch for any kid,
• 46:40
  parents with kids like it's it's, you know, a movie that
• 46:44
  will make me think it's thought provoking and and like those
• 46:48
  things are those things are it. It's a different.
• 46:51
  To me, my 10 year old son I should watch it with.
• 46:52
  Oh yeah, like come. On they can understand it
• 46:54
  already like. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:55
  It just brings home the message about like, people have
• 46:57
  differences, right? And and that's fine.
• 47:00
  It's everyone has differences every some, some you see, some
• 47:02
  you don't see, right, man. It's a line in that movie from
• 47:05
  Julia Roberts, man. And then he's not, he's not
• 47:09
  going to Jamie's on lightspeed stands on how he dives in
• 47:13
  baseball. That's what he's.
• 47:14
  Doing I'm good, I'm not that good.
• 47:16
  We'll get there. We'll Yeah, Julie.
• 47:17
  Barberts is Hollywood royalty. I mean, she's.
• 47:20
  Is she Jewish? She may as well be, May as well
• 47:23
  be. She may as well be, but probably
• 47:27
  not. She looks.
• 47:27
  Like I want to make those movies like like Next state next.
• 47:30
  Is that is that on the? Next phase meaningful minute is
• 47:33
  like production, big production. Like we got to be doing better
• 47:38
  for Claudia Sarol Like what are we?
• 47:40
  What are we creating? You know, like.
• 47:41
  Yeah, we were a part of production where we helped fund
• 47:44
  it, the Mashiach movie with Beryl Solomon.
• 47:46
  And I have to tell you that his feeling that he had just making
• 47:50
  that movie, I understand what you're saying, but.
• 47:51
  That movie was more of like a documentary.
• 47:53
  Right. No, I got it.
• 47:55
  But it was a productive talking about like, are you talking
• 47:56
  about making into like a scripted movie or like a
• 47:59
  documentary? What I'm saying is, is I think
• 48:00
  something that we don't understand or realize so much is
• 48:03
  if you ever watch a movie and someone gets on their knees at
• 48:06
  the side of their bed and they're praying in in
• 48:08
  Christianity, that is funded by the church and they're using
• 48:14
  cinema as a way to get into the homes of millions of people.
• 48:17
  Yeah, right. And we have not mastered
• 48:19
  subliminal messaging. And we need to.
• 48:22
  We need to. We're getting into a little bit
• 48:23
  on social media. We're getting a lot Should be
• 48:26
  should be broadcasted to the world subliminally to every
• 48:29
  single person in the world. It's a great point.
• 48:31
  Actually like dude like the only people that are like shovement
• 48:34
  are in Chabad. Like if they by mistake are you
• 48:36
  Jewish? Are you're not well shovement in
• 48:38
  Noah? Right.
• 48:39
  They made a movie about Novak, I think a couple years ago, did
• 48:41
  they not? Who's the guy from Gladiator?
• 48:44
  Russell Crowe. Yeah.
• 48:46
  Russell Crowe was played. Nah.
• 48:47
  And it was like it was. Like a really.
• 48:49
  It's like Kira. Most of it, yeah.
• 48:50
  Nothing mentioned, no Torah. Right, But like, no, we have so
• 48:53
  like we're we're all from Jews, like we have the greatest gift
• 48:55
  in the world. We were born into this.
• 48:57
  We have an amazing, amazing thing to Torah and we're just
• 49:01
  like this with it like it's ours.
• 49:03
  But like where my brain goes a lot and a lot of meetings I have
• 49:06
  with my donors and I have with my with people who fund our
• 49:09
  operation is like, so there's that Jew that lives in Oklahoma
• 49:12
  that doesn't really know much about his Judaism besides for
• 49:16
  the fact that he saw his grandmother like candles once on
• 49:19
  a Shabbos and that's it. And he'll he may never see that
• 49:22
  again. And whose fault is that?
• 49:25
  It's our fault. So how would you change that
• 49:27
  like? I'd make it known and make it
• 49:28
  seen in the world I would create.
• 49:30
  Films. What's a step?
• 49:32
  One step. Investing millions of dollars
• 49:35
  into Jewish films, OK, create like that's that's what that's
• 49:37
  the step like are we are is there less money in our circles
• 49:42
  than they're they're in a Christian world.
• 49:44
  Well, we just found out last week, yesterday actually, that
• 49:48
  the the church apparently is like the second largest real
• 49:51
  estate owner in the world, OK. We have reference.
• 49:53
  Do they have that money? No, I I get.
• 49:56
  That evens it out. Yeah, they have they have a lot
• 49:59
  of resources. They have a lot of money.
• 50:00
  I'm. Not saying we do what they're
• 50:01
  doing. We don't have that kind of
• 50:02
  money. Let's do 5% of what they're
• 50:03
  doing. Something like you, you're
• 50:04
  watching Super Bowl and there's five commercials about Jesus,
• 50:08
  but he gets us.org. Right and right Super Bowl.
• 50:11
  They have like 3. Commercials.
• 50:12
  Why? Why isn't there a commercial
• 50:14
  with a mother lighting Shabbos candles and scan the QR code?
• 50:18
  Know more about your Judaism that every single Jew in the
• 50:20
  world does this. 10 million people watching this right now
• 50:22
  that they can. Oh, you know what?
• 50:24
  I think I'm Jewish. I'm going to scan this code.
• 50:27
  Why do we think? He's small, he's not growing,
• 50:29
  he's not really. Getting I'm getting chills.
• 50:31
  Thank you I. Almost felt we're missing an
• 50:33
  opportunity to feel like at the time that we.
• 50:35
  We have you know, there's a there's a vart that I every pace
• 50:38
  like I say, my father said it to me.
• 50:40
  We're we're Kabad like we have Kabadikas.
• 50:42
  My father grew up in Crown Heights.
• 50:43
  His my great grandfather was a Gabi 770.
• 50:45
  We're Gedge Lobavez go back to Russia and and my father said by
• 50:51
  the Seder. He said that the rabbit says why
• 50:54
  do we take the we crack the matzo right and we hide the
• 50:57
  larger half and when the seder isn't over until.
• 51:01
  We find it. Find the Arthur Coleman and the
• 51:03
  rabbit says that that larger half, that larger half
• 51:05
  represents majority of cholesterol.
• 51:07
  Tonight, seder night, they are not keeping a seder.
• 51:10
  They don't even know tonight's a seder.
• 51:11
  They're not keeping any mitzvos. And our job here is not over
• 51:15
  until we find them. We got to find them.
• 51:17
  We got to find them. What are we doing to find them?
• 51:19
  It's going to be hard to go on our feet and every and and
• 51:22
  people are doing it. There are curve organizations,
• 51:24
  but we have been given the gift of social media and people make
• 51:27
  the mistake thinking that God created all these platforms for
• 51:31
  Joe Rogan and Elon Musk to have fun with.
• 51:34
  Who says it's not created for us to reach all these views in the
• 51:35
  world doing this? Who who's to say like we we
• 51:39
  literally at meaningful minute, we were able to post videos and
• 51:42
  get millions of views on social media.
• 51:45
  Who's seen that? Do I know that there's not a Jew
• 51:48
  we get messages all the time with people who are not so
• 51:50
  connected with the Judaism, but they have a spark now we we need
• 51:53
  to double down on those efforts like wow, we need to really
• 51:57
  double down on those efforts. I'm.
• 51:58
  Just thinking about that letter. That's so profound.
• 52:00
  Sorry, I'm like, look at look at these ideas that you have you,
• 52:03
  you are just getting started baby.
• 52:05
  I'm like. Who's to say that would happen
• 52:06
  without that letter? You know it's important.
• 52:08
  You know what? Look in the camera and tell that
• 52:09
  person that wrote that letter what you think.
• 52:12
  Give them a. Response.
• 52:13
  What would you say to them? Honestly, I would say that I am
• 52:16
  sorry that you were in so much pain that you had to write that
• 52:19
  letter. That's really what I would say.
• 52:21
  I mean good. For you, yeah, 'cause really,
• 52:23
  did you know what he just said? He's good for you.
• 52:25
  He's he, he pities him that that person must have been better
• 52:28
  inside that he had to write a letter like that.
• 52:31
  And that's where it always comes with the hey calm that's being
• 52:33
  fueled by people that are having a hard time, that you're being
• 52:35
  successful and that you're doing well.
• 52:37
  And it doesn't. It doesn't sit well with them
• 52:39
  and they don't have to handle it can.
• 52:40
  You imagine to write a letter like that and hit send to to to
• 52:43
  type it and and put in the mail link, lick that envelope yes and
• 52:47
  go to a mail. I don't know how to send a
• 52:48
  letter on it. Oh yeah.
• 52:49
  You spent $0.25 on me, you know, but like, thanks for the
• 52:52
  donation, but like. I love what you said, the the
• 52:55
  idea of saying to the other person is the same thing
• 52:58
  everyone should say when someone gets to you.
• 53:00
  I'm sorry for you. Yeah, I'm good.
• 53:02
  I mean, they must be going through so much pain or to do
• 53:04
  such a thing doesn't make otherwise.
• 53:06
  Makes no sense, right? Are you, are you very driven
• 53:11
  mostly by the 'cause it sounds like you're really committed to
• 53:13
  this and you really generally care, but there is money to be
• 53:16
  made. Like, did you ever reach any
• 53:17
  point? What was the first point rather
• 53:20
  that you reached and you realized, oh, we can start
• 53:21
  making money from this. We can actually monetize.
• 53:24
  We can get some. Capital into the business I went
• 53:26
  to my first meeting ever with a donor.
• 53:29
  His name is Moshe Majeski, good friend by the way, Moshe group.
• 53:33
  And I remember I went to his house as a young, I don't think
• 53:36
  I was married. Maybe I was I was married and I
• 53:38
  want to basically make a meaning from an app because I felt like
• 53:42
  this is great. We're getting 10s of thousands
• 53:44
  of followers on every single platform.
• 53:46
  But that's just amazing for them because they're getting all
• 53:48
  their data and we're not getting anything from it besides for
• 53:50
  we're able to reach our content to them.
• 53:51
  Like great. We have 300,000 followers on
• 53:53
  Instagram now, which is amazing, but it's even better for
• 53:57
  Facebook because they get all that data, right?
• 53:59
  So now we have our mobile app that has 45,000 users and we
• 54:02
  have that data. So we have that.
• 54:04
  We have that relationship with those users.
• 54:06
  So I went to Moshe, I went to his house and I never fundraise
• 54:10
  the day in my life. Like, not even like high
• 54:12
  Lifeline, like everyone who you know, never never never.
• 54:15
  You self funded everything all along the way until.
• 54:17
  This point, it was very new. I mean, there was, I'll tell
• 54:19
  you, there was a lot of small money stuff and we still have
• 54:23
  that, which is the most amazing thing we have.
• 54:24
  We're 8000 donors that have given to meaningful minute 8000
• 54:28
  people $50 a $100 that have given grassroots.
• 54:31
  That's like the thing I'm proud of the most that I don't, I
• 54:33
  don't, I'm not like make sure, but there's no like three people
• 54:35
  that say, hey, listen, we're funding you, right?
• 54:38
  No, the people, it's like a politician.
• 54:39
  You need to get a certain amount of donations from people, right,
• 54:42
  in order to continue your camp. That's the thing I'm proud of
• 54:44
  the most. The person who's amazing doesn't
• 54:46
  make a lot of money, but they're like, this is important to me.
• 54:48
  I want to see it continue. I want to.
• 54:49
  See $10 Eighteen dollars. Exactly.
• 54:51
  I'm curious what happened by Moshe.
• 54:52
  So I went to Moshe and I went to his office and if you know him,
• 54:56
  he's just like in the middle of a million different things.
• 54:58
  And I said to him, I introduced myself.
• 55:01
  I told him what I'm trying to do.
• 55:02
  He loved it and he's, I said, I think I said I need $50,000 and
• 55:08
  I think he said back to me, so you need 75.
• 55:10
  I'm like, OK, lesson #1 thank you.
• 55:14
  Love you, Moshe. Yeah.
• 55:15
  And he's the, he's the most amazing guy in the world.
• 55:18
  I I was sitting in his office and he called his wife in Riff
• 55:24
  Riff, come here, Riff. We're going to support that.
• 55:27
  This kids doing. We're we're going to, we're
• 55:29
  going to give and, and I'm like, what is going on here?
• 55:31
  Did he say yes? I don't even know if he said
• 55:33
  yes. I have no idea what's happening.
• 55:34
  It's my first donor meeting ever and I got a e-mail.
• 55:37
  He's on his phone. I'm like, I got an e-mail and it
• 55:39
  was from our credit card thing that Moshe Majeski $12,000
• 55:43
  donation on the spot. I was like, he's like, more of
• 55:47
  that's coming now. That was our meeting.
• 55:49
  I was like. You're kidding.
• 55:51
  What just happened? You got spoiled.
• 55:53
  You think every meeting goes like this by?
• 55:54
  The way I Hashem, I, I told Hashem like I'm out of my depth.
• 55:59
  I am not, I'm not a trained fundraiser.
• 56:01
  Like I'm no Ellie Bear. Like I don't know how to just
• 56:04
  walk into a meeting and say, yeah, so we need $12 million,
• 56:06
  you know, like I'm not, that's not my thing.
• 56:08
  But I have a lot of passion and I and I and I think I'm good at
• 56:11
  what I do and I know what I need to do.
• 56:13
  Like I, I have the, the blueprint from God, obviously.
• 56:18
  And I told her Shem to surround me with the right people.
• 56:21
  Can you imagine my first meeting?
• 56:21
  First of all, it didn't mean that's even it.
• 56:24
  I got the Moshe because Jesse Eisenberger, Joe Eisenberger, we
• 56:28
  made a meeting from the book before the podcast, even a book
• 56:30
  from arts girl. Right.
• 56:31
  Good. All his lot of it's thank you to
• 56:33
  him. It's really best, Sir, about
• 56:34
  just short messages, 200 pages of short messages and he's a
• 56:37
  sponsor for the book. And Jesse Eisenberger said,
• 56:39
  yeah, I'll do it. And I'm like, who else can I get
• 56:41
  involved? He's like, you should have a
• 56:43
  motion on my deskie. And he set up the meeting with
• 56:44
  me a Moshe. So it's like, you know, meet the
• 56:47
  connected media and, and, and Musha has set me up with other
• 56:49
  people. So it's like Hashem really
• 56:51
  surround me with the right people.
• 56:52
  You know how they say everybody is?
• 56:54
  Every Jewish person you know is 2 calls away from Donald Trump.
• 56:56
  It's amazing. It really is, my guy.
• 56:58
  By the way, on that on that note.
• 56:59
  Ever need Donald Trump? I'm calling Musha.
• 57:01
  He's that. On that note, I don't know if I
• 57:04
  can say this. We'll decide later if we should
• 57:06
  edit it. I get.
• 57:09
  I get a. Do you just press the mute
• 57:11
  button? I get a, a message from Moshe,
• 57:15
  like a video of Ivanka. Moshe's very close to the Jared
• 57:18
  and Ivanka and he's close to Trump.
• 57:21
  And he's like post this, post this on social media and and
• 57:24
  make sure it gets used. I'm like, OK, I can't make sure
• 57:26
  it gets used, but it's a good video.
• 57:27
  Well, it was Ivanka talking about lash and hara and we
• 57:29
  posted it and it's at at this point it's got over 2 million
• 57:33
  views on our Instagram and YouTube shorts.
• 57:36
  It was emotion told me to post it.
• 57:38
  And I'm like, I'm on the phone with Moshe.
• 57:40
  He's like, let's go. I need 5 million.
• 57:42
  I'm like, and then all of a sudden I see Amari Stoudemire
• 57:45
  shared it, Ivanka reposted it for a meaningful minute, and
• 57:49
  Daily Mail wrote an article about it.
• 57:51
  I'm like, am I being used by the Illuminati right now?
• 57:54
  Like, what is going on? I'm like, Moshe, did someone did
• 57:58
  this come from the president? Did someone tell you to do this?
• 58:01
  Because like, I feel like it was it.
• 58:02
  Could very well be. And he's like, don't ask
• 58:04
  questions, you know, don't ask questions, just do.
• 58:06
  Anyways, I wake up this morning. I posted my stats today.
• 58:10
  Ivanka Trump now follows meaningful winner on Instagram,
• 58:12
  and I had to say out loud a few times, the daughter of the
• 58:15
  President of the United States. Follows.
• 58:17
  She's not just the daughter of the president, she's herself.
• 58:19
  I know there's a lot of influence she's a powerful
• 58:21
  person on. Instagram, I'm like, let me say
• 58:24
  this like whoa, that's. Crazy.
• 58:26
  That is crazy. That's like.
• 58:27
  Good for you. That's a big deal.
• 58:29
  It's a huge deal. I'm like, I'm like a hard.
• 58:31
  It's like hard to register. So you could see who actually
• 58:34
  follows you like you were able. To see, I went to her page and
• 58:37
  said, do you want to follow her back?
• 58:39
  I'm like, OK, I don't follow a woman.
• 58:43
  So no, no, I'm like. She she followed you like, you
• 58:46
  know, in a very discreet way. She didn't, like, call you to
• 58:49
  tell, hey, I'm going to. She just followed because she
• 58:51
  thought she wants to follow you. Yeah, really cool.
• 58:52
  This is just totally natural. That's what this was.
• 58:55
  Really cool. It's really cool.
• 58:56
  It's it's like. And again, this is a further
• 58:58
  testament to what you're doing. You're doing something right.
• 59:01
  Yeah, listen, Sham is running the it's, it's crazy.
• 59:03
  It's like this whole script is just nuts.
• 59:05
  If you think about it, the fact that every, every everything has
• 59:08
  happened like and and just to pick up chronologically, like
• 59:12
  the podcast started taking off, right?
• 59:13
  Things started blowing up like big time, bigger guest, bigger
• 59:17
  names. Who's your biggest guest?
• 59:18
  Sophie, in which there was Ben Shapiro was big.
• 59:20
  Ben Shapiro was a pretty big guest.
• 59:23
  Amari Sodomyo was pretty big and I think I enjoyed Ben Shapiro.
• 59:26
  Like it was really, really interesting.
• 59:31
  It just, you know, just to get us to present day, we started
• 59:35
  another podcast recently, stories of Hope with Spark
• 59:37
  Gretko. She's under the network.
• 59:38
  She's amazing. We've.
• 59:39
  Been fans of her. Love her.
• 59:40
  She's awesome. We were so happy that you guys.
• 59:43
  Yeah. Partnership.
• 59:44
  By the way, we were also happy that it didn't work out with us
• 59:46
  because then she wouldn't be doing, She wouldn't be working
• 59:48
  for her, by the way. She could have been working for
• 59:50
  us. And then this was like what she
• 59:52
  was meant to do. Yeah.
• 59:53
  Like she was born. She's doing it.
• 59:54
  From the world, I tell you, the messages we got, I'm like blown
• 59:58
  away. Yeah, someone messaged 100, gets
• 1:00:01
  hundreds of emails perhaps, so that comes out.
• 1:00:03
  It's a sensitive topic. So it's like really, I mean,
• 1:00:06
  we've got a message from one of the earlier episodes.
• 1:00:08
  Someone had had had given up on dating Jewish men because they
• 1:00:12
  were so jaded. And her episode inspired them to
• 1:00:14
  start giving another chance that they're going to speak to the
• 1:00:17
  right Shah Kahneman, have the right people, and they're going
• 1:00:18
  to start dating Jews again. How many generations of Jews did
• 1:00:21
  we just save? That's amazing.
• 1:00:22
  How many generations you saved the world?
• 1:00:24
  Right. Literally, they say you saved
• 1:00:26
  the world. Saved the world.
• 1:00:27
  How many worlds? Because that Jewish lady could
• 1:00:29
  have married a guy and then that daughter could have married a
• 1:00:31
  guy, and then all of a sudden all those generations of how
• 1:00:34
  many kids? Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  So like, I'm like, blown away. Blown away.
• 1:00:39
  But the guy who wrote the letter wants to know who you think you
• 1:00:41
  are. Yeah.
• 1:00:41
  And how dare you. How you know?
• 1:00:43
  You'll get that letter too soon you.
• 1:00:44
  Know, you know that like yeah, like I I anyone who gets who
• 1:00:47
  gets hate with what they do and it's inevitable if you're doing
• 1:00:50
  something good, doing something special, it's like don't spore
• 1:00:56
  gets it. Also, by the way, it happens
• 1:00:57
  there, there are some factions that would be like, why you
• 1:01:00
  talk? Why are you talking about love?
• 1:01:02
  And, and I, I look at these people, I'm like, what do you
• 1:01:05
  mean? It's in the Torah, right?
• 1:01:07
  What do you think tuba is like? It's in the Torah love.
• 1:01:11
  We can't become firmer than the Torah.
• 1:01:12
  We can't make up halakhs that don't exist.
• 1:01:15
  Why are we talking about relationships?
• 1:01:17
  Why are we talking about love? I don't know.
• 1:01:18
  Maybe because 50% of people are getting divorced nowadays.
• 1:01:20
  Maybe you want to change something.
• 1:01:22
  Maybe you want to actually make an impact, right?
• 1:01:23
  Like maybe because not talking about it didn't do so well,
• 1:01:26
  right? Maybe our track?
• 1:01:27
  Record. Isn't that right?
• 1:01:28
  And that's why we're doing a lot of uncomfortable people.
• 1:01:30
  Also by the way. Now, let me ask you, when are we
• 1:01:33
  starting to roll in though? When is this?
• 1:01:35
  When's the money following? Like, listen, you're already at
• 1:01:38
  a place where you're in the 1%, like in our community, even the
• 1:01:42
  extended communities all over the world, all the Jews, nobody,
• 1:01:45
  nobody has what you have. Like you're doing something
• 1:01:47
  phenomenal. Like I expect some big
• 1:01:49
  paychecks, like a big payday. I want to see you with a driver
• 1:01:52
  soon in a Rolls. You know something like see.
• 1:01:57
  Those things will never happen. You know, like I, I, I will
• 1:02:01
  invest every single dollar into building this up.
• 1:02:03
  You know, I, I mentioned earlier what our, what, our, what our
• 1:02:05
  budget is. And it's not private
• 1:02:07
  information. It's our 990's public, we're
• 1:02:09
  nonprofit. So it's, it's public.
• 1:02:12
  My, my dream, my goal, my next thing we're working on is is to
• 1:02:18
  build out meaningful and A plus and to have paid subscribers,
• 1:02:22
  thousands of them and to, to, to really invest in those in
• 1:02:27
  content. Like I, I want these rabbis,
• 1:02:29
  these speakers who don't get paid really well at all to be
• 1:02:32
  doing what they're doing to create a creating content like
• 1:02:35
  not enough to be doing it more often.
• 1:02:38
  I want to bring them onto the network and pay them real money
• 1:02:40
  and say like, let's take this seriously.
• 1:02:42
  Like why is Mr. Reese making more money than you?
• 1:02:45
  Why, why are these Twitch streamers making like let's
• 1:02:48
  literally we live in this world. We see, you know, there's this.
• 1:02:54
  We're supposed to learn from what they do and how they
• 1:02:56
  utilize technology. There's no reason why we can't
• 1:02:59
  do it. There's no reason why we can't
• 1:03:00
  take some of the top. Like I want to make the Mount
• 1:03:02
  Rushmore of Jewish thought leaders and creators and say,
• 1:03:05
  let's go to work. Let's, let's create.
• 1:03:08
  Let's create movies, let's create documentaries.
• 1:03:10
  Let's create podcast. Let's let's double down.
• 1:03:12
  Let's make a 50,000 square square foot warehouse where it's
• 1:03:16
  going to be a literal content creation machine because what's
• 1:03:22
  the biggest impact nowadays? It's what people are seeing
• 1:03:25
  online, what they're seeing on their phone.
• 1:03:27
  It's what there's what they're seeing on the computer.
• 1:03:28
  That's what it is. Yeah.
• 1:03:29
  We need to invest in it. Seriously.
• 1:03:30
  So like. I love that.
• 1:03:31
  I think that that's. His Rolls Royce.
• 1:03:33
  That's what he Rolls Royce sounds like.
• 1:03:35
  I'm a little disappointed in the answer.
• 1:03:37
  I'm not a card, no. I think that's amazing what
• 1:03:39
  you're saying and like you're a better person than than than
• 1:03:42
  most. You know that you're doing this
• 1:03:44
  really genuinely for real authentic reasons.
• 1:03:46
  I admire. That like of course I want to
• 1:03:48
  take care of my family, pay my mortgage like everyone else.
• 1:03:51
  It's something for not people like a lot of hard work over
• 1:03:53
  here you have to contend with, you know?
• 1:03:55
  What do you do for fun? I play sports.
• 1:03:58
  I play baseball. You.
• 1:03:59
  Have to run a baseball. We won the.
• 1:04:00
  Championship. We won the championship into.
• 1:04:02
  The world to know you. Know it took a lot of gold by
• 1:04:04
  the way, on my part and you know, I I take chances.
• 1:04:08
  I'm a risk taker and I I drafted Nachi you talking risk that that
• 1:04:14
  wasn't the risk part. I I drafted him onto my baseball
• 1:04:16
  team. But then I asked him if he wants
• 1:04:18
  to Co sponsor the team together meaningful, you know, people and
• 1:04:23
  and not any business. Yeah, I'm like a no name
• 1:04:25
  podcast. He's, you know, you heard today,
• 1:04:27
  you know what, What he's all about.
• 1:04:29
  And he did it, yeah. And he and he very graciously
• 1:04:32
  accepted. He didn't thank you for that.
• 1:04:34
  I liked the name. He was very humble about the
• 1:04:36
  whole thing. He's Steven.
• 1:04:37
  Today. I'm like, listen to him.
• 1:04:38
  Why not? More than most people have done
• 1:04:41
  in generations. And you're here like you know,
• 1:04:43
  and you're just like a regular guy and you're.
• 1:04:45
  That's again, that's the message, by the way, like
• 1:04:47
  regular people, that's what that's what happens.
• 1:04:50
  That's what your example. My whole message is like
• 1:04:52
  everyone I sit down with is regular or I don't know, regular
• 1:04:55
  is not the word. They're they everyone I sit down
• 1:04:58
  with is, is someone who who probably got in trouble as a
• 1:05:04
  kid, who probably didn't get good grades all the time, who
• 1:05:06
  made trouble, who got punished, who maybe suffers from some sort
• 1:05:11
  of stress, anxiety, depression. Every single person I sit down
• 1:05:14
  with, that's, that's who it is. Like that is the makeup of the
• 1:05:19
  Jewish people. That's who we are.
• 1:05:21
  Like we love looking at the end game, the success.
• 1:05:24
  Oh, wow, look at that. Look, look what this guy's
• 1:05:27
  doing. Look at the impact he's making.
• 1:05:30
  And when you just see that you literally, you take away the
• 1:05:33
  entire ingredients to the recipe, like, no, the stress,
• 1:05:38
  the, I'm not saying bring it upon.
• 1:05:39
  You don't have to bring stress upon themselves.
• 1:05:40
  It's natural, it happens. But that's not things that are
• 1:05:43
  going to get in your way. You can use those things.
• 1:05:46
  Like everyone I've spoken to, like Arby Finer, who dealt with
• 1:05:49
  the biggest challenge of a life to to not be able to have kids,
• 1:05:53
  to have a kid with special needs.
• 1:05:54
  And that's it. Challenge of a lifetime to to
• 1:05:56
  interviewing a girl like a lady like Malky Jacobs who is living
• 1:06:00
  a amazing normal regular life and then got sick and then got
• 1:06:04
  her arms and legs amputated like and she is giving to others.
• 1:06:10
  These are these are people that used the things that the worst
• 1:06:14
  things that were given to them and they made it into something
• 1:06:17
  sweet and beautiful and everyone listening can do that, whether
• 1:06:20
  in business, whether in relationships in in life, in
• 1:06:24
  general, whether you're young or old, you're going to be punched
• 1:06:26
  in the face, hopefully not literally, but figuratively.
• 1:06:30
  You definitely will be, unless you like very rich in laws on
• 1:06:34
  the I don't know exactly, but then you're getting punched.
• 1:06:37
  Then you're getting punched in the gut.
• 1:06:38
  Exactly. That's a whole different.
• 1:06:39
  Kind of punch, but you see I listen take me to mojo like but
• 1:06:45
  that's. Amazing you're going.
• 1:06:47
  To get you're going to get punched and and it happens to
• 1:06:49
  every single person and the person who's unscathed and
• 1:06:52
  untouched is not the person who's successful.
• 1:06:54
  You're gaining a tremendous amount of experience and just
• 1:06:57
  being around these people. And it's for the best thing
• 1:06:59
  ever. I don't know when I like see a
• 1:07:00
  lot of your clips. I feel like bad about myself.
• 1:07:03
  Like, no, that's that's. Not the goal I.
• 1:07:05
  Know, but I feel like there are so many amazing people out there
• 1:07:09
  in the world. There's so many people that step
• 1:07:10
  up and that overcome. They persevere and they make
• 1:07:13
  something out of themselves. Not that just they get by and
• 1:07:16
  they just they make do they actually grow, they become
• 1:07:18
  bigger and better and it's very inspiring to see.
• 1:07:21
  It really is. It's amazing.
• 1:07:22
  I wish, I really wish on us, Michael, that our podcast, you
• 1:07:25
  know, again, our goal isn't just like to feed inspiration to
• 1:07:29
  people. You know, we don't consider
• 1:07:30
  ourselves those kinds of people, but we we are regular people.
• 1:07:33
  The average show you're you're casual person trying to do the
• 1:07:35
  right thing in the religious setting.
• 1:07:37
  And we want to be a little bit better today than we were
• 1:07:40
  yesterday. Small spurts, little tiny
• 1:07:42
  stepping stones. We're we grow personally and we
• 1:07:46
  grow professionally. We believe very wholeheartedly
• 1:07:48
  that the two are infused, one and the other.
• 1:07:50
  They go side by side. You know, you got to apply your
• 1:07:52
  business to your personal values as well.
• 1:07:55
  And that's what we just try to do and we try to showcase
• 1:07:57
  examples of that and take one little small message at a time.
• 1:08:00
  You're doing it on a grand scale.
• 1:08:02
  I mean, you've, you really are playing I.
• 1:08:03
  Have a great team, I really do. I have a great team.
• 1:08:05
  We have a staff of like 7-8 people.
• 1:08:08
  Do you do this yourself? Do you host it yourself?
• 1:08:09
  Like do you have a a Oshi or a Michael I?
• 1:08:11
  Have Momo Bauman he's my Co host now and and you know what is his
• 1:08:17
  airing probably this week OK yeah yeah Momo was amazing and
• 1:08:22
  I'm sure like we'll have other Co hosts, you know, guest Co
• 1:08:24
  hosts like it's it's something that like.
• 1:08:25
  Oh, so it's not your, it's not your partner like he's.
• 1:08:27
  Just like he's been on for the last couple years.
• 1:08:30
  But you know, oh, he's amazing. Momo was the best. 40 years old,
• 1:08:34
  why didn't he come? Who was busy man?
• 1:08:35
  Who was his business? Invite him.
• 1:08:37
  Yeah. What was the man?
• 1:08:37
  We could. Do Co hosts together.
• 1:08:39
  We could do the podcasters podcast.
• 1:08:41
  How? Often do you do a podcast How
• 1:08:42
  how well every. Week.
• 1:08:43
  Put it out every week, every week, every single week.
• 1:08:45
  And how many episodes are you in?
• 1:08:47
  Over 200. Wow.
• 1:08:49
  Over 200. And it's gotten easier over
• 1:08:53
  time. It's gotten better.
• 1:08:54
  Yeah, I'm sure things go a lot smoother now.
• 1:08:56
  You already know the system, you have it all.
• 1:08:58
  I just have to tell you, this is on my mind.
• 1:08:59
  Sorry guys. You know, I'm a big fan of
• 1:09:02
  therapy and I feel like this is therapy.
• 1:09:05
  When should I talk? Every week.
• 1:09:07
  And we just, you know, our grievances where we talk about
• 1:09:10
  whatever it is the stuff. Yeah.
• 1:09:12
  We, we, we grow through speaking to each other.
• 1:09:16
  I would say the reason why I believe friends are so important
• 1:09:19
  to one another is because it's therapeutic.
• 1:09:20
  It's having a friend is is a form of therapy.
• 1:09:23
  What you're doing and the impact that you're having on everyone
• 1:09:26
  is therapeutic. When when I'm listening to what
• 1:09:28
  you have to say or your guests have to say, it's not only
• 1:09:32
  therapeutic for them, it's therapeutic for us and us as a
• 1:09:35
  nation and us as a people. I think that it's just we need
• 1:09:38
  it. And you were you touched upon
• 1:09:39
  this while you're talking. I'm thinking about the whole
• 1:09:41
  time. I'm like, yeah, we're Holocaust
• 1:09:42
  survivors. We're you know, we a lot of us
• 1:09:45
  have gone through a lot of, you know, challenges in our life and
• 1:09:48
  hearing other people's challenges and how they go
• 1:09:50
  through it. It's all part of the therapy
• 1:09:52
  that we're helping each other. It's just really beautiful.
• 1:09:54
  I had to mention it. It's.
• 1:09:55
  I was I was the other day working out with a with a
• 1:09:57
  friend. T4.
• 1:09:59
  What's that? T4.
• 1:10:00
  What's T4? You guys know what T4 is?
• 1:10:02
  Workout. No.
• 1:10:03
  You guys know what T4 is? No.
• 1:10:04
  I. Don't know what T4 is.
• 1:10:06
  Oh my God. So you know.
• 1:10:07
  What that is? Yeah, I'll explain.
• 1:10:09
  Jump right in. So T4 is like, wow, I'm shocked.
• 1:10:12
  And OK, T4 is like. We may have to edit this 'cause
• 1:10:15
  if it makes us look like total idiots we don't like, we look
• 1:10:17
  under a rock. Or something.
• 1:10:18
  I'm not gonna let you let every you get everything out.
• 1:10:21
  This is staying in OK T4 is your kids never told you what T.
• 1:10:25
  Four, we might know about it if you tell us, OK.
• 1:10:27
  T4 is let's say you you walk in and you're like, oh, my back is
• 1:10:31
  killing. The Bentley seats are really not
• 1:10:32
  so comfortable. T4 like oh like.
• 1:10:35
  T4 is. Like.
• 1:10:37
  Therefore you're like. What time is it you roll?
• 1:10:39
  Exactly so you're like, so I was in the gym yesterday working
• 1:10:41
  out. I was killing it pumping 100 lbs
• 1:10:43
  and so it's AT4. Like so when someone says, when
• 1:10:47
  someone says to you, like honestly, if I didn't have that
• 1:10:50
  driver, I would be so tired right now.
• 1:10:53
  You took the words out of my mouth, but I'm I'm glad to learn
• 1:10:56
  this new, you know, because I was gonna say, oh, is she you're
• 1:10:59
  working out by. The way you're not gonna by the
• 1:11:01
  way, I don't know who your friends are and stuff, but like
• 1:11:04
  you're you're done. Like every time they open their
• 1:11:06
  mouth, every the whole kid is you're like divor.
• 1:11:08
  Divor, God, divor. And sure, all this week, 'cause
• 1:11:10
  I'm getting roasted, it's happening.
• 1:11:11
  Oh yeah, if they hear this. Yeah, Oh my God.
• 1:11:14
  OK, they. Hear it?
• 1:11:14
  But you're working out. Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Tell us so She. Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  And I feel like, you know, yeah, I didn't get out of my Bentley
• 1:11:20
  to go right now, but I went and I was with with a friend and the
• 1:11:25
  next day I felt extremely sore, like I couldn't move.
• 1:11:28
  Feel so bad, yeah. I can't even say the story
• 1:11:31
  anymore with a straight face. Thank you for that.
• 1:11:33
  Totally ruined it for me. Yeah.
• 1:11:35
  And I'm trying to make a very important point for that.
• 1:11:37
  OK, you'll see. I may add, I was going somewhere
• 1:11:40
  with this anyway, So I texted. I texted.
• 1:11:43
  I said, by the way, I can't move again.
• 1:11:44
  And I was like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have, you know, You
• 1:11:46
  know, I shouldn't have worked out so hard.
• 1:11:50
  You see that? But I just ruined.
• 1:11:52
  I just ruined your brain. So that he writes back to me.
• 1:11:54
  He's like me too. I'm also sorry I can't either go
• 1:11:57
  made me feel better, like it wasn't just me.
• 1:11:59
  I felt like somebody was feeling my pain, you know?
• 1:12:02
  I felt like he was commiserating me, so to speak, right?
• 1:12:05
  Yeah, soft landing, I was. Going to say I said I think the
• 1:12:08
  reason why people resonate so much with podcasts, especially
• 1:12:11
  yours, is that you hear other people's vulnerabilities and
• 1:12:14
  hear other people's struggles and they're sharing they're
• 1:12:16
  talking about it. And that makes you feel a little
• 1:12:19
  bit better is that you see that this has happened to others
• 1:12:21
  around me too and you know, this is how they deal with it.
• 1:12:24
  You know, I really wish I could have made this point a lot
• 1:12:26
  better and I. Didn't I'm happy that I went
• 1:12:28
  this way because I was able to teach you something important.
• 1:12:30
  Yeah, our kids are going to be very.
• 1:12:31
  Happy. Yeah, obviously.
• 1:12:33
  How do you say it? Are you before you just before
• 1:12:35
  You say before. Right when you start your story.
• 1:12:37
  Well, someone says something about it sounds.
• 1:12:39
  Someone says something, you know, I, I, I was, I was in once
• 1:12:44
  in, I was in a Cafe in, in Cedarhurst and someone, I was
• 1:12:48
  wearing like a sweatshirt because I'm a regular person and
• 1:12:51
  I wear sweatshirts and like people, people are like, why do
• 1:12:54
  you dress like on a podcast? Why do you wear a sweatshirt?
• 1:12:56
  I'm like, so this is the point I'm making.
• 1:12:57
  Like I'm a regular person. I'm not a rabbi, I'm not a Rav.
• 1:13:00
  I don't hold to be one. I'm a regular person who loves
• 1:13:05
  what I do and I'm passionate about what I do.
• 1:13:08
  And someone said to me that like, you know, I really, I I
• 1:13:11
  appreciate that there's someone out there that's wearing a
• 1:13:13
  sweatshirt that is actually showing that like, that's fine.
• 1:13:16
  That's not. Yeah.
• 1:13:16
  Like that's you're not, you're not a sweatshirt.
• 1:13:19
  Yeah. You happen to wear it.
• 1:13:21
  It's just like, yeah, you don't. I think that it's important for
• 1:13:23
  all us to know that giving over anything is not just just
• 1:13:28
  exclusive to someone with a long beard and a rabbi prefix.
• 1:13:32
  It's we're all responsible to to do that.
• 1:13:35
  And it. It doesn't matter if you wear a
• 1:13:37
  sweatshirt or if you're here is excellent or whatever.
• 1:13:41
  Like these things are so non important.
• 1:13:43
  Everybody something to offer, they could all contribute, they
• 1:13:45
  could all we're all team right and everybody has to carry their
• 1:13:47
  way a little bit. Tenders rely on the captain or
• 1:13:49
  the best player. Exactly.
• 1:13:50
  Everybody's got to do something if you want to really get a big
• 1:13:52
  win. You know, the other day I went
• 1:13:54
  to a Vart and Michael, you know what we're talking about Who's
• 1:13:58
  hard? I'm, I'm being very careful,
• 1:13:59
  like what I'm going to be saying because I don't want to you.
• 1:14:01
  Don't be careful. Not be careful.
• 1:14:03
  About this T4T4 yeah I go to this vart and I was going to go
• 1:14:08
  out with with friends after the vart and I didn't want to like,
• 1:14:10
  you know, put on a suit and tie and everything go to the vart
• 1:14:13
  and come home and change and go out.
• 1:14:14
  It's like, you know, I'm just going to do what's working for
• 1:14:16
  me right now. I'm just going to be comfortable
• 1:14:18
  and I one of my jeans and my sweatshirt, you know, and real
• 1:14:22
  idea. I know I'm.
• 1:14:23
  Kidding. I'm kidding.
• 1:14:24
  I did it anyway. And then I, I, I pull up to the
• 1:14:26
  hall, I said, wow, it's very busy.
• 1:14:28
  Like it was AI guess very popular.
• 1:14:29
  Oh my God, I went to a hall at an engagement party with over
• 1:14:34
  100 people it. Was a fart.
• 1:14:35
  Anything was going to be that and.
• 1:14:36
  I felt out of place with my jeans.
• 1:14:37
  He thought it was going to be like a private.
• 1:14:38
  Meeting, I said to myself at that moment I said, you know,
• 1:14:40
  I'm going to own it, I don't care, I'm just going to walk in
• 1:14:42
  and too bad whoever doesn't like it, you know?
• 1:14:45
  And I did, and I walked in and of course, the Commons came
• 1:14:48
  flowing within minutes. You know, everybody's out.
• 1:14:51
  What are you doing here? But then there were some people
• 1:14:53
  who came over to be like, one guy especially.
• 1:14:55
  So I surely came over to me. And he's like, well, she, that's
• 1:14:57
  it. You have a podcast now, you
• 1:14:58
  could do whatever you want. I'm.
• 1:15:01
  Like, you know, OK, there's maybe do a little bit of perks
• 1:15:03
  to this, you know, but I, I, I agree, I think that.
• 1:15:06
  People can't just get overanalyzed.
• 1:15:07
  Yeah, people should. Just be themselves, be
• 1:15:09
  comfortable. You don't always have to be
• 1:15:10
  worried about other people are going to think about you.
• 1:15:12
  That's a tough way to live. It's very hard.
• 1:15:14
  It's so much better. Obviously you be respectful and
• 1:15:17
  you do things that are social norms and and you you be
• 1:15:19
  respectful. That's the most important thing,
• 1:15:21
  right? But like.
• 1:15:23
  Was that disrespectful? Going to the right dress that
• 1:15:25
  way. That intention's vote was, you
• 1:15:26
  know, it's. Who's your ready, son?
• 1:15:28
  How much do you care? That's all it's.
• 1:15:30
  Yeah, you know, yeah, I think it's fine.
• 1:15:31
  Do you want to show the person that you actually got dressed
• 1:15:33
  for his party or? Yeah, you know.
• 1:15:35
  Like we have to wrap up, I have a 12:00 we have to throw.
• 1:15:38
  The Milky out. Oh, OK, fine.
• 1:15:40
  Middle of the day we still have. Yeah.
• 1:15:42
  Thank you guys, You know. Business over here, you know we
• 1:15:45
  need to function. Yeah, this has been fun.
• 1:15:48
  Now I have. A question for you, what advice
• 1:15:50
  would you give us? You know, we're, we're 20
• 1:15:52
  episodes in and we, we care about making an impact simply
• 1:15:57
  because it's the brand of what we're trying to do is our
• 1:16:00
  journey and growing with us. And we really feel that business
• 1:16:04
  and personal are mixed. And that's really what our
• 1:16:06
  message is constantly. And we should always have the
• 1:16:09
  values and grow and we're trying to reach an audience.
• 1:16:12
  And you know, people ask us all the time I go, who's your
• 1:16:14
  audience? What are you about?
• 1:16:16
  Any advice that you can give us? 'Cause we don't know right now.
• 1:16:17
  The people ask us like what's your podcast about?
• 1:16:20
  We're like, I'm not really sure. It's unscripted.
• 1:16:22
  We just sit down, we talk to people.
• 1:16:24
  It's just three. Guys with personalities just
• 1:16:26
  trying to talk about things that might make other people feel
• 1:16:29
  better. It's really kind of what we're
• 1:16:30
  doing. One great guy it's.
• 1:16:31
  Yeah, one 1 1/2. Yeah.
• 1:16:35
  Excuse me. Hello. 2 1/2.
• 1:16:37
  Thank you. I I think just consistency just
• 1:16:40
  like just keep doing it every single you do every week, keep
• 1:16:45
  doing it every single. Week since then, he was very
• 1:16:46
  particular about that. Don't don't think like I would
• 1:16:49
  say don't take a week off like it's going to be difficult.
• 1:16:51
  It's hard. Keep doing it every single week.
• 1:16:54
  And, and and just listen to the to what people want more like
• 1:16:59
  you. You'll find you.
• 1:17:00
  I'm sure you look at some episodes and some resonated more
• 1:17:03
  than others. And but the biggest message is
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  consistency. Don't don't get, don't fall too
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  much in love with the numbers. It's not all about the numbers
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  and if you continue to create good content, the numbers will
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  come. It's just a byproduct of
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  creating good content that happens.
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  It's not going to happen after 20 episodes for me, didn't have
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  20 episodes and think on now our our our podcast is extremely
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  popular, but it's it's a slow roll.
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  Sometimes it doesn't happen overnight.
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  It doesn't it doesn't just blow up takes time.
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  So just create good content. That's it.
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  And do do consistently. And be consistent.
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  I appreciate that. Thank you so much, Nachi.
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  This has been the another episode of the None of Your
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  Thank you everyone for listening.
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  Don't forget to like, subscribe, comment, get involved.
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  Have a great day everyone. Yeah.
• 1:17:45
  Thank you. Thank you.