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- 0:00From 1996 to 2000, the NASDAQ was on a heater, rising from 400
- 0:04to $4400 a shareandthenthe.com bubble burst, wiping out over $5
- 0:10trillion of wealth overnight. And today I'm going to show you
- 0:13why the environment we're in right now looks exactly like
- 0:161996, and why Jerome Powell's comments and decisions on
- 0:20Wednesday of next week could kick off the next bull run in
- 0:22Bitcoin and equities that you're not going to want to miss.
- 0:25We've seen a bunch of $1 million Bitcoin predictions by 20-30,
- 0:28and I'm here to show you today why those numbers aren't as
- 0:30crazy as you think. And I'm actually going to back
- 0:32it up with data and research. This is why people subscribe to
- 0:35this show. We go deeper than surface layer.
- 0:37This is Dante Koch with Bitcoin. Simply, let's go.
- 0:44I, I, you know, the rough idea I have in my head is like, we'll
- 0:46see $1,000,000. Bitcoin by 2030.
- 0:48We have a 2030 target. In our base case, it's around
- 0:52$650,000. In our bull case, it's between
- 0:561:00 and $1.5 million. OK, these $1 million Bitcoin
- 1:01predictions by 20-30 seem ridiculous.
- 1:03When you look at the history of bubbles and you look at where we
- 1:06are today with AI, you understand that we're about to
- 1:09enter into the mania phase. The smart money has already been
- 1:13invested in AI, data centers, energy, commodities, crypto, but
- 1:17the media will begin to call them mission critical and then
- 1:19everyone else is going to pile in thinking this is their last
- 1:22chance to get in on these investments.
- 1:24And what happens? Well, the prices go to the moon.
- 1:27This looks exactly where we were in 1996.
- 1:30Unemployment rates were hovering around the 6.5% range.
- 1:33And what happened was the Fed started cutting rates from 6% to
- 1:36about 4.25% over the coming year and a half.
- 1:39And this kicked off the bull run from the NASDAQ going from 4000
- 1:43to 44, 100. The headlines in 1996 read
- 1:46almost exactly like what they do today.
- 1:48Low to no job growth, labor tightness, sticky inflation that
- 1:52the Fed was fighting, low wage growth, employers not hiring,
- 1:55and a lack of competitiveness from the United States in key
- 1:58industries like telecom. Alan Greenspan had a monetary
- 2:02tightening policy in 9394 to fight inflation.
- 2:06And after that, here's the comments that he made to justify
- 2:09the rate cuts as a result of monetary tightening initiated in
- 2:12early 1994. Inflationary pressures have
- 2:15receded enough to accommodate a modest adjustment in monetary
- 2:18conditions. Mark my words.
- 2:20You're going to hear comments like these from Jerome Powell,
- 2:22if not on Wednesday, in the next meeting in October.
- 2:26And what also happened at the same time was the unleashing of
- 2:29American in global innovation in the telecoms industry.
- 2:32This happened in 1996 with the Telecommunications Act Bill
- 2:35Clinton sought to unleash the Internet and American innovation
- 2:38in this key industry and famously signed this document
- 2:42with an electronic pin. Sounds like the same things
- 2:44we've been hearing from the Trump administration about AI
- 2:47dominance, crypto dominance, energy dominance.
- 2:50So how does this relate to today?
- 2:51Well, Jerome Powell is under the same pressure in implementing
- 2:55the same playbook that Alan Greenspan did in the mid 90s.
- 2:59And what's also interesting is that if he cuts rates with the
- 3:01SP 500 at all time highs, well, that'll be just the third time
- 3:05that this has happened since 1996, the first time it
- 3:08happened. And right now, we're seeing the
- 3:10same playbook unleashed with crypto AI in energy that we saw
- 3:14with the Telecommunications Act in 1996.
- 3:17Listen to Cynthia Lemus talking about the crypto innovation that
- 3:20will be signed into law by December at the latest.
- 3:23Well, we're finally embracing President Trump's goal of having
- 3:27the United States remaining the digital asset capital of the
- 3:30world. We shouldn't be ceding that role
- 3:34to the United Arab Emirates or to Singapore.
- 3:38Even Japan, which is notoriously cautious, has a more robust
- 3:43digital asset regulatory framework than we do because
- 3:46they're starting to embrace innovation.
- 3:48And it's very important the United States retain that role.
- 3:53We did stable coins first. The Genius Act passed, it's now
- 3:56law. And that provided the momentum
- 3:58we needed to do market structure.
- 4:00So the House passed a market structure bill, it's called the
- 4:03Clarity Act. We in the Senate are going to
- 4:06mark up in the Senate Making Committee a market structure
- 4:10bill in September. The AG committee will do theirs
- 4:14in October because they've got the commodities jurisdiction.
- 4:17The Senate Banking Committee has the securities jurisdiction.
- 4:20Then we'll fold them together with clarity and hopefully get
- 4:23this across the finish line by Thanksgiving or at the latest,
- 4:27Christmas. This is going to lead to the
- 4:28same run up that we saw in the.com era.
- 4:31Now, if you go back and you listen to the full clip of Brian
- 4:33Armstrong when he made his $1 million Bitcoin prediction,
- 4:36well, are you starting to see how these things are lining up
- 4:38with how the world looked and felt in 1996?
- 4:42I, I, you know, the rough idea I have in my head is like, we'll
- 4:44see $1,000,000. Bitcoin by 20-30 and there's
- 4:46high error bars around these things.
- 4:48But you know, just to give you a couple of data points, right,
- 4:51it's like we're starting to see regulatory clarity emerge in the
- 4:54United States, which I think is a bellwether for the rest of the
- 4:57G20. Have the Genius Act passed now
- 4:59for stable coins, but this market structure bill is being
- 5:01debated in the Senate. Fingers crossed something could
- 5:04happen by the end of this year. That would be a huge milestone.
- 5:07the United States government now has a strategic Bitcoin reserve.
- 5:09So that is, if you'd asked me five years ago, that would have
- 5:12been kind of like vision board and someone would have said
- 5:14you're crazy, like the United States government's not going to
- 5:16officially hold Bitcoin. But if, you know, if they do
- 5:19that, which there's not an executive order to do, I think a
- 5:22bunch of other countries are going to do that.
- 5:24We've seen a lot of interest from sovereigns, right?
- 5:28Coinbase actually provides crypto services to about 140
- 5:32government entities that believe it or not, like at both federal,
- 5:35state, local and internationally.
- 5:37So governments are now getting more and more engaged in this
- 5:40and you can imagine the big pools of capital around the
- 5:42world and there's a lot of so I don't, I don't see the
- 5:46regulatory thing going away. That was one of the big risks is
- 5:48like, is the government going to shut this down?
- 5:50I think that risk has been severely diminished.
- 5:53And then you know, is there going to be some flaw found in
- 5:55the Bitcoin protocol? I think that's been severely
- 5:57combed over at this point. We need to make sure we upgrade
- 6:00it to a post quantum cryptography but.
- 6:01Are elliptic curves already post quantum or no?
- 6:05They are theoretically I believe I don't no one really good to
- 6:09nail this down untested, but yeah, I believe there is a path
- 6:12where the Bitcoin Core team and Ethereum and Salon, everyone
- 6:15they're looking at proposals now to upgrade to definitely post
- 6:18Quantum. Yeah.
- 6:20So, yeah, I think the list of kind of risks is getting
- 6:23diminished. And at the same time, the amount
- 6:25of demand, like the amount of institutional money just sitting
- 6:27on the sidelines waiting for this next bill to land, you
- 6:31know, is these are the the big institutions I talked to,
- 6:35they're holding 1% of the portfolio in Bitcoin.
- 6:37And I'm like, what would it be to 5:00 to 10:00?
- 6:39And they say regulatory clarity, that's it.
- 6:41So I think we'll continue to see huge inflows of capital.
- 6:44The ETFs have been huge. If Bitcoin goes to $1,000,000,
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- 7:31hits $1,000,000, a coin like Brian Armstrong predicts by
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- 7:59Bitcoin. The implications of what happens
- 8:01when Bitcoin hits $1 million are pretty staggering.
- 8:04And I don't think people understand the implications of
- 8:06$1 million Bitcoin, $10 million Bitcoin.
- 8:09They're not going to understand the debasement that's happening
- 8:11in the underlying currency, the dollar.
- 8:13And when you look back to 1990, five, 1996, there's no way that
- 8:18you could have predicted a company like Amazon would be
- 8:20worth trillions of dollars. And that's not just Amazon,
- 8:24that's Google, that's Meta, that's Apple and plenty of other
- 8:27companies that are approaching the trillion dollar mark.
- 8:29The number trillion would have been unfathomable at that time.
- 8:32And the number $10 million Bitcoin, well, that'll be
- 8:35unfathomable as well. People who look at this and are
- 8:40saying, Oh, well, once it gets to a million, I'm going to sell
- 8:43and I'm going to take some massive, you know, returns.
- 8:47They don't. What they're really saying is
- 8:50they have no clue what's actually playing out here 'cause
- 8:53if this, if, if this goes to a million, it's going to 10
- 8:56million, it's going to 100 million.
- 8:58It's going to look like a Zimbabwe note of 100 trillion
- 9:02units. And that's what I think if you
- 9:08think it's just going to go up to 500,000 and then it's going
- 9:11to kind of stop there. And that's kind of like where
- 9:13where it ends and like that's the end of Bitcoin.
- 9:16It's now, you know, stabilized at 500,000.
- 9:19You really do not understand like what's playing out here.
- 9:24And, and I think the higher that you go like that, the more, the
- 9:28more aggressive the bid is actually going to get and, and
- 9:32kind of get away from legacy policy makers and people
- 9:36controlling currencies, Fiat currencies as, as we know them.
- 9:41Now. When, when does that happen?
- 9:42I don't know when that happens. I don't know if it's this cycle,
- 9:45next cycle or whatever. I, I don't know, but people that
- 9:49are that are suggesting that Bitcoin is going to have smaller
- 9:53and smaller returns into the future, I think are getting
- 9:57duped a little bit as to like what kind of plays out in the
- 10:01middle of that S curve. We will hit dollars, that
- 10:04parody, and it's going to happen suddenly, not gradually.
- 10:07As Bitcoin becomes the new world reserve asset, the price will go
- 10:11up. It'll go to 1,000,000.
- 10:12It'll go to 10 and then it'll reach dollar SAT parity.
- 10:17And probably before that happens, we hit a terminus point
- 10:20where, you know, you stop pricing things in dollars
- 10:23because it doesn't make sense anymore.
- 10:25And there's tons of historical examples of this, right?
- 10:28Like fast failure of Fiat currencies is the norm.
- 10:33It's not the exception. Look at the German, the German
- 10:36mark, right? That's fast fail.
- 10:38Every currency, every Fiat currency, fast fails.
- 10:41It doesn't fail over 50 to 100 years except for maybe the
- 10:46dollar. It's failed over 100 years, but
- 10:48it's coming to the a close. But as it increases in value,
- 10:52then of course you see less volatility because it takes more
- 10:56to make a dent. If you go back to I think last
- 10:59year, right, the Saxony government in Germany, they
- 11:03dumped 50,000 and that made a bigger impact than the 80,000.
- 11:07So you can already see in a very short time frame a far more
- 11:12muted effect of coins being dropped.
- 11:15And the reality is, is when this happens, the people that don't
- 11:18own assets are not going to be able to participate in this.
- 11:21And the gap between the rich and the poor is going to grow wider
- 11:23and wider. The bottom 50% of households now
- 11:26just own 2.5% of wealth in the United States.
- 11:30History says that rate cuts are going to lead to new all time
- 11:33highs in assets just like they did in 1996.
- 11:36And that's going to separate the gap between the people who own
- 11:38things and the people who don't. This won't just be with houses,
- 11:41as the major wealth and equity built moving forward will be in
- 11:45stocks will be in digital assets and commodities.
- 11:48But by bidding up home prices to very expensive levels, it makes,
- 11:53you know, it's good for those that have a home and it's good
- 11:57for those who've been able to lock in a short like a long
- 11:59duration fixed rate mortgage against it.
- 12:02But it's very bad for those who are trying to enter the home
- 12:06buying market for the first time.
- 12:07This is also generally something you see in countries like
- 12:09Australia or Canada where they have a policy of kind of trying
- 12:13to keep prices elevated because so much of the the country kind
- 12:18of has their wealth in real estate.
- 12:20But then the loses that are those that are trying to buy a
- 12:23house not for investment purposes, but for the actual
- 12:25utility purposes of using it. So the moral the story is be an
- 12:29asset owner own Bitcoin. The mania phase hasn't even
- 12:32begun yet and now hopefully you have some historical context to
- 12:35understand why Bitcoin will run from where it is today to
- 12:38numbers like $1,000,000 Bitcoin in 20-30, just like stocks ran
- 12:42from what they did in 1996 to 2001.
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- 13:02down there. Hope you get value from these
- 13:03shows. As always, this is Dante Cook
- 13:05with Bitcoin. Simply Happy stacking.