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Episode 30: Hardware Shop Of Horror · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: D.
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  Speaker 2: You want to you want to throw a drop of
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  Speaker 2: w D forty on that creek there? Tom, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: There is around here everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, tis the tis the season Tom to be spooky.
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  Speaker 2: I believe this episode is dropping on Halloween Night itself.
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  Speaker 2: You're all very welcome along to the Tom and Jerry
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  Speaker 2: Halloween Special, what we're calling the Hardware Shop of Horror.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Oh, Jesus Christ, I'm so happy with that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very I hope becomes a long running yearly tradition,
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  Speaker 2: the Hardware Shop of Horror. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Halloween It's come on
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  Speaker 1: in many guys as so it started with it. I
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  Speaker 1: suppose how do you apply it? Were you back in
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  Speaker 1: the plastic bag here?
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  Speaker 2: Would oh? I was? I wasn't I was og black
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  Speaker 2: plastic bag and cardboard, which is hat. Yes, and you
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  Speaker 2: were a Halloween man.
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  Speaker 1: You cut those masks that split it the sides and
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  Speaker 1: cut them out off you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I always remembered in the in the in the Dark
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  Speaker 2: Night when the Joker goes you want to know how
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  Speaker 2: I got these scars? And I was like, yeah, a
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  Speaker 2: false face in the eighties.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you gotta put you've got a mask out
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  Speaker 1: of center in the eighties, that's what you got, Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tom, we're doing a little something a little bit
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  Speaker 2: different for the Hardware Shop of Horrors. We're just going
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  Speaker 2: to do the regular Tom and Jerry show.
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  Speaker 1: But what a spooky twist.
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  Speaker 2: How does that sound?
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  Speaker 1: I like the vibes of at.
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  Speaker 2: That sound about? That sounded like a good way to
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  Speaker 2: celebrate Halloween. Well, we'll kicked things off. Every week. We
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  Speaker 2: normally do a weekly what have you? Tom, Guess what
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do today. Guess what we're going to
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  Speaker 2: do today.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll go on, tell us, tell us what we're
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  Speaker 1: going to do, spooky what have you?
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  Speaker 2: This is a very complicated case, mod you know, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of outs, a lot of what
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  Speaker 2: have you, and uh, a lot of strands to keep
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  Speaker 2: in my head.
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  Speaker 1: Man. We should we should be said of bread Halloween
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  Speaker 1: for anybody whom in our international listeners, Halloween is Irish.
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  Speaker 1: It's an Irish Oh yeah, all the rest of you
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  Speaker 1: have to thank Ireland for your well, thank the Americans
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  Speaker 1: for what they did with Halloween. But the Halloween is
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  Speaker 1: ours originally, So we should be up to our up
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  Speaker 1: to our elbows in it, deep in it.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a couple of We've got a couple of
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  Speaker 2: spooky episodes way way back in the way back when.
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  Speaker 2: So if you go back to the far back catalog,
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  Speaker 2: you might find some spooky episodes about pish oaks and
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  Speaker 2: Irish myths and legends. But for the weekly, what have
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  Speaker 2: you the spookly what have they you for this week?
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  Speaker 2: What we want to do is tell you a ghost
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  Speaker 2: story that is real, A legitimate, real ghost story from
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  Speaker 2: around the world.
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  Speaker 1: Has that signd on, I'm I'm reticent to buy the
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  Speaker 1: real bit much. You just said there, I'm not. I'm not,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: There are there are horrors in this world that are
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  Speaker 2: not supernatural.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to rust Common.
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  Speaker 2: Well. It is horror story. Real ghost story is about
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  Speaker 2: a ghost town. It's about a ghost town that has
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  Speaker 2: had my interest for a long long time. It's a
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  Speaker 2: town called Centralia in Pennsylvania. Now I cannot say the
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  Speaker 2: name of that town. I cannot say the name of
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  Speaker 2: that town in anything other than an Australian accent. And
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  Speaker 2: I've tried.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. The second you said that, I thought, is
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  Speaker 1: this after going to be.
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  Speaker 2: The the hell a lot of Centralia.
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  Speaker 1: Centralia. Fucking chop chop ow donkey chop.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's just you can Centralia. And any research that
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  Speaker 2: I've done this they don't call it Centralia. They called
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  Speaker 2: they go up on the as of Centralia and it
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  Speaker 2: just comes out of me Australian. What can I say, lads?
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  Speaker 1: It would be in Pennsylvania, wouldn't it. Like? Remember I
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  Speaker 1: gave you a little fun fact about Pennsylvania how it
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  Speaker 1: got its name. That that bloke he was a you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of those fellows with a belt book on this,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of fella, you know, Yes, the Pilgrims. Mister,
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to name it Sylvania and he went, eh,
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  Speaker 1: you're nearly there. But look at while you mentioned it.
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  Speaker 1: We may give you a pat in the bag. And
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  Speaker 1: that's where Pennsylvania. But Pennsylvania is literate with spookiness, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: It's literally speech.
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  Speaker 2: And this story you may have heard the fine folks
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  Speaker 2: of the Toma Jerry Show may have heard a version
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  Speaker 2: of this story down through the years. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: give you a little bit more meat on the bones,
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  Speaker 2: so to speak. The town of Centralia. I'm gonna go Centralia.
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  Speaker 2: I'll try that. Yeah, town of Centralia has been on
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  Speaker 2: fire for fifty two years now. You may have heard
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  Speaker 2: the stories of a town in America that has an
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  Speaker 2: underground fire that they could never put out, and it
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  Speaker 2: was that it was somewhat the inspiration for the town
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  Speaker 2: of Silent Hill in the Silent Hill computer games and movies.
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  Speaker 1: You mean by like on fire like place in Turkumenistan
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  Speaker 1: where they just have a hole in the ground that
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  Speaker 1: they call, you know, a gate to Hell or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But this devil's Yeah. And by town on fire, you
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  Speaker 1: don't mean like they have a pop a night life
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  Speaker 1: like did.
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  Speaker 2: You No, No, it's not yeah, yeah, yeah, fair dincoms
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  Speaker 2: Centralie is on fire. No, no, it's Centralia like like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Pennsylvania times. Was a coal mine in
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  Speaker 2: town tom Okay, And when you mine colds very dangerous,
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  Speaker 2: a very dangerous activity. What do you got to watch
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  Speaker 2: out for when you're mining coal?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes on firefires, Yeah, goes on fire.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we take it out of the ground in
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  Speaker 2: the first place. Well through hundreds of years and this
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  Speaker 2: is this is the kind of thing that goes all
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  Speaker 2: the way back. We had ancestors shipped over from Ireland
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  Speaker 2: and coffin ships that just went straight to work in
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  Speaker 2: the coal mines of Pennsylvania. And the mind this place
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  Speaker 2: for like hundreds of years. Okay, all right, this wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just so, No, no, this did this was just an
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  Speaker 2: Norden thing that happened. No, No, the mind is said.
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  Speaker 2: The the the anthracite, which you and I both know, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: that's the stuff you can't burn in the stove. That's
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  Speaker 2: the hot stuff. All right.
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  Speaker 1: I had to melt the hinges off your stove.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: My grandmother had a rayburn up unkil Kenny. She used
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  Speaker 1: to put anthracite in it on like a warm day. Now,
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  Speaker 1: tip to the cap to rayburn that it didn't absolutely
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  Speaker 1: blow up, but my god, you could not go within
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  Speaker 1: maybe twelve thirteen inches of that thing without getting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some sort of degree of burning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like what they're born if you ever hear
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  Speaker 2: of like pole burning factories. They're not born in the
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  Speaker 2: same coal that you're thrown into the the backiler. They're
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  Speaker 2: born in a special hot burn and coal. And it's
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  Speaker 2: an anthracite that was mine in Centralia, was one of them.
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  Speaker 2: The well ran dried, Tom, The well ran dry or
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  Speaker 2: more to the point, Tom, the well ran financially unfeasible.
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  Speaker 2: There wasn't enough coal coming out of the ground to
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  Speaker 2: warrant the job of getting it out, and the minds
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  Speaker 2: won by one shit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh jeez, ar deiteccher again.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly that, and the minds themselves were walled up inside
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  Speaker 2: both you know, entrepreneurial sorts around Centralia with every now
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  Speaker 2: and then when and dig out some bootleg coal. We
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  Speaker 2: love bootleggers, like literally going in and get two barlads
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  Speaker 2: of bootleg coal. And this went on for another one
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  Speaker 2: hundred years of thereabouts. Okay, yeah, So what you have
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  Speaker 2: here now is like an unknowable honeycomb of mines. There's
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  Speaker 2: what you know is there, you know, the track that
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  Speaker 2: was dug, and then there's all other little branch offs
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  Speaker 2: going hell noswhere Okay, right, that's what you thought you
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  Speaker 2: had sealed off and what isn't sealed off at all? Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 2: knowing all that, not knowing all that, the good people
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  Speaker 2: of Centralia decided to use their their abandoned coal mines
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  Speaker 2: as landfills.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so why not you have a back all
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  Speaker 1: the rubbish.
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  Speaker 2: Up into it. Yeah, And that's the tip that's the
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  Speaker 2: town tip. Landfills used to be more of a thing.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing I can like and do it too, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: was if you remember the scene in the Simpsons where
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  Speaker 2: Homo was running Salvation and he was just like filling
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  Speaker 2: all the empty mindes with rubbish until it started to
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  Speaker 2: spue out all around over town. Literally that okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but little did they know that all they were doing, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: with their coal mine was doing what your mom and
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  Speaker 2: dad used to do, like screw up a bit of
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  Speaker 2: newspaper and put it in underneath.
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  Speaker 1: It, or like bear grills would scrape off a bit
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  Speaker 1: of old men's beard off a tree.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, started fire, right, get it started?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Now, when the Centralia fire started is up for debate.
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  Speaker 2: There are there's the official when it started date, and
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  Speaker 2: then there are some people that claim that this goddamn
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  Speaker 2: thing was born in for fifty years beforehand and nobody
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  Speaker 2: knew it.
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  Speaker 1: What.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unknowable. But what is known is that in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two, for Memorial Day to tidy up the
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  Speaker 2: town a little bit, the town appears to have been
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  Speaker 2: a literal, you know, a bit of a dump with
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  Speaker 2: dumps about the place. And this is no small town.
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  Speaker 2: This is a decent size couple of thousand people can
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  Speaker 2: with its own mayor, its own office, the whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: But they wanted to do something to tidy up the
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  Speaker 2: dump for a Memorial Day. So they did what was
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  Speaker 2: known as a controlled bourne on the rubbish, which turned
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  Speaker 2: out to be the most uncontrolled burn in the history
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  Speaker 2: of this I've had one or two of them down
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  Speaker 2: through the years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I never had a mind of
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  Speaker 1: fuck it down like but yeah, So.
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  Speaker 2: They lit the fire and had Memorial Day. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know what Memorial Day is to Americans. Are mad, like,
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  Speaker 2: what is Memorial Day?
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  Speaker 1: Is that? I was totally once, but I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: it here Memorial I suppose it's for their fallen? Is
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  Speaker 1: it just to pick day for their fallen in any
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  Speaker 1: particular war? I listen, they love an all days.
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  Speaker 2: That was known the comments if you're American, what it is?
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  Speaker 2: You're my memorizing? Now here's the thing, Tom, you'd think
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  Speaker 2: if the ground underneath you was on fire, you'd know about.
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  Speaker 1: It right on the underground eating Yeah, yeah, I would.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, here's the thing. Here's where where the Centralia
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  Speaker 2: fire starts to get spooky. There's nothing more spookier than man, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing more horrific than letting a thing happen to
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  Speaker 2: save a dime. Right, there's not more as you know yourself, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: through through all your works over the last couple of months,
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  Speaker 2: and there's nothing more terrifying than bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, that's what I was saying.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real ghost story. Okay. A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: started a report there's smoke coming out of the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Can you not see that? Can you not see that?
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  Speaker 2: There's smoke coming out of the ground. But Tom, you've
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  Speaker 2: got to understand that this is weeks and months after
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  Speaker 2: the fact, in some instances a year later. It was
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  Speaker 2: only a year later when crops started to die off,
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  Speaker 2: or the ground like a green field, started to get
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  Speaker 2: a little bit brown looking because of the boiling sulfur
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  Speaker 2: underneath it. Yeah, people, there's something up now. People in
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  Speaker 2: the area would have been wise to coal fires because
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  Speaker 2: constral Centralia is not the only coal fire that that
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  Speaker 2: has ever been Okay, this is it. If you're in
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  Speaker 2: coal mining territory, you watch out for coal fires. So
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  Speaker 2: you had the old guy going, I's got all the
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  Speaker 2: hallmarks of a coal fire. If you ask me, see
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  Speaker 2: Pennsylvania accident.
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  Speaker 1: It's grand is little clay pipe is sitting on.
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  Speaker 2: There, reminds me you have the coal fire in odd six.
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  Speaker 2: So they applied to investigate if their town was on fire.
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  Speaker 2: And this investigation years. There's no rush on these bikes, right.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, is it in fire? I do know? Is
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  Speaker 1: it on fire?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Into the ground. The ground's hot, all right, there's smoke
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  Speaker 1: coming about of it. And we are over an entire
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  Speaker 1: vein of coal, and we did tip a lot of
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  Speaker 1: rubbish down and we did set fire to that rubbish.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, listen, we have to get it.
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  Speaker 2: We have to get a clerk in from the county
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  Speaker 2: to check that I available. Yeah, his next available slots
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  Speaker 2: in seventeen weeks. Will we hang around from yeah one?
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  Speaker 2: And you wait the seventeen and he comes down and
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  Speaker 2: goes like, hmm, I didn't bring the right ladder with me.
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  Speaker 2: Held on a second, be back in another, and on
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  Speaker 2: and on it went, Tom four years, all while the
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  Speaker 2: coal fire spread underneathed. Now I was on the impression
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  Speaker 2: that this is like it's spreading like wildfire. No, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: it's spreading like a coal fire at a rate of
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  Speaker 2: about seventy five feet a year. Okay, but you can
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  Speaker 2: do the sums there. If this thing's been burning for
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  Speaker 2: fifty years, that this is just move and move and
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  Speaker 2: move and spread and spread and spread in all directions.
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  Speaker 1: But they must have seen coals and shit happening, like
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, if the coal is
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  Speaker 1: burning away from underneath, Like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tom, do you know what I'm going to tell you?
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  Speaker 2: It was only if this thing had been burning since
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  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two. It was only in the nineteen eighties
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  Speaker 2: that they confirmed that yep, that's on fire. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, technology changed here. I mean, you can't you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't blame these people. They might not known what
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  Speaker 1: fire was fully.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, Tom. There was reports of from one lady who
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  Speaker 2: basically confirmed herself when she brought in like a load
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  Speaker 2: of tomatoes that she'd grown that were like incredible greenhouse
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  Speaker 2: growing tomatoes that just grow grew out on a field
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  Speaker 2: for no bother because the heat of the ground underneath it.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, that is weird, all right. So
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  Speaker 2: it took twenty years, Tom, It took twenty years of
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  Speaker 2: paper pushing for the CIA. Dylan you know, just messing
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  Speaker 2: around the place and dig a few holes here and there,
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  Speaker 2: and then what will we do? Will we make a
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  Speaker 2: plan to extinguish it? Oh? No, now a man now
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  Speaker 2: a little bit far and out of this stage. I
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  Speaker 2: think it'll burn itself out at some stage. And no,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't him. And it was in nineteen ninety when
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  Speaker 2: a young boy twelve years of age was crossing the
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  Speaker 2: road when the road opened up underneath him into a
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  Speaker 2: massive sinkhole and he fell, grabbing onto a root like
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  Speaker 2: the fucking goonies Jesus drag himself out that everybody said,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Centralia's not the kind this place to live anyway, Holy.
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  Speaker 1: Sweet Southern Jesus. So what is there like ash pouring
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  Speaker 1: out of it?
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  Speaker 2: What was just on occasion? Yes, Tom, there's on occasion
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  Speaker 2: in Centralia now that the town of Silent Hill is
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  Speaker 2: like bathed in fog on account of the number one,
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  Speaker 2: on account of the pure rendering capabilities of the PlayStation one.
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  Speaker 2: At the time, it was like, you know, we have
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  Speaker 2: to have a load of fog because we can't render
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  Speaker 2: out any further. And we just say it's spooky right on.
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  Speaker 2: It works for me, But Centralia is not quite like that.
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  Speaker 2: But it does like split up geezers geysers you want
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  Speaker 2: to call them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose a geezer. Yeah, yeah, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's it just sounds to me
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  Speaker 1: like temple more in artiberarios. Just it's always fucking foggy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: How do you solve a problem like Centralia? Ah, and
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  Speaker 2: again this is where the horrors of man come into it.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say you should tip more rubbish it. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: throwing it out there there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of things were planned. Number one, do
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  Speaker 2: we block up the holes with cement? And that way
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  Speaker 2: you start the fire of oxygen and away you go.
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  Speaker 2: But remember that underneath this town is like an absolute
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  Speaker 2: honeycomb of pits and falls, and all the oxygen needs
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  Speaker 2: is like one little crack to suck in air. It's
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  Speaker 2: impossible to fill it up completely. You're not filling in
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  Speaker 2: a tube, you're not filling in a straw. You're filling
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  Speaker 2: in the ground. Yes, can you flood it with water? Tom?
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  Speaker 1: I suppose you could divert if a river, culvert or
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  Speaker 1: something for a couple of years. Maybe, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know, maybe, Yeah, I mean that's the one thing not
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  Speaker 2: to jump ahead. But the surrounding towns of Centralia have
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  Speaker 2: never been bothered by the fire because they live on
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  Speaker 2: a water table that the fire won't cross. We're told
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  Speaker 2: you call back in one hundred years time and see
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  Speaker 2: how the neighboring towns are getting. Not But this is
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  Speaker 2: where the horrors reman come in. It was decided that
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  Speaker 2: it was financially unviable to fix the problem, so let's
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  Speaker 2: just pay everybody off and move them five hundred yards
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  Speaker 2: down the road.
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  Speaker 1: Stop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody got. Everybody got a settlement to move their house,
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  Speaker 2: to move their home, to move to a new town,
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  Speaker 2: to move wherever they're going, to set themselves up with
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  Speaker 2: a new life. And the town became abandoned.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ accept than young boy still hanging from the route.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Except as is the case in these stories, Tom about
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: ten to fifteen absolute die hard Centralians, Centralians who just
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: stuck to their guns. They're just like, we're not going anywhere,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: and they still to this. They have gone nowhere. The
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty Centralians who stuck around, and the government
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: at the time, remember the time, I'll tell you want
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: to start of moving people out of this. The government
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: wanted to go in and move people by force, like
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: we're not asking, we're talent. Yeah, but they decided not
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to because they didn't want another Waco on their hands and.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Know their way. Okay, yeah, so that'll.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Tell you when this was Waco had just been was
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: fresh in the memory. Time we got a good Waco
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: sometimes Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll find out when his
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: birthdays and we're right. So they stuck around. They had
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: their own fire department Tom, which I think is cute.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: That's adorable, like you know, you know, and they didn't
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: get called out much. And I'm like, nats, you didn't
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: get called out much. Every fucking inter this place is
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: on fire. But the roads all cracked and buckled, and
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of the houses were just flat out demolished.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: If you moved, the government came in and demolished your house,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: with the exception of a couple of houses that still
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: stand to this day. And they're that kind of thing
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: where you can see that was like a semi detached
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: two houses together, Yeah, and no family inside moved out
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and then not one side and then left the other side.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have to have a look at
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: this fucking kid.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: It's it's on you can you can find it on
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Google Maps. I wanted to go in to see to
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: find like a Chernobyl sort of ghost town, Prepiet kind
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: of kind of thing. Not really. All that's left of
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: it is a road because again the move these people
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: out twenty years ago held how nearly thirty years ago
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: now they think of it.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, the roads are in fucking rag order there.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: The roads are in bits.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: That was the first thing they came up. They knew
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: what I'd be into. The roads are.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Cut so you can still drive. You can still drive
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: on what was the what was the Centralia bypass all
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: you want. It just doesn't bypass anymore because itself has
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: been wiped from existence, with the exception of a half
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: dozen houses. And they not the church, but the cemetery
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: still there. Tom, You rest assured that place has haunted
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: as fuck all one.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Jesus. It's yeah, that is what I love is right
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: next like see also Prepiat which is there?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: You go, there you go, and like on on inspection
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Tom there come to find out that there are thousands
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: of such cases around the world. Okay, in China there's
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: some five to six hundred underground coal fires burning as
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: we speak, that they cannot and will never put out
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the town in Centralia, up Centralia. They estimate the fire
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: there will burn for another two hundred and fifty years
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: before it exhausts the fuel that's underneath it. But all
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: this to say, Tom Centralia is the one that sort
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: of stands head and shoulders above the rest of them.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know why it became the most famous one.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just the most famous one of our time.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: But what I think should happen to him, what I
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: think should happen, yeah, is that Tom and Jerry podcast
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: should go there.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I just looked at the place here place. There's a
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: place to stay. We can stay with one of the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: residents beyond, and they have and they have a place
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: to eat andy between twenty twenty dollars for your full
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: dinner chure with. I mean it got one star, but sure,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: let's be honest, it only probably has one rating, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: that's probably.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would like to be fair to that Tom. It
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: was cooked outside on the ground.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: God the heart, like the roads. Actually, I've never seen
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Rhoades buckle like that, not like just buckle.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, watch watch watch our heels rods and hippie. That
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: is the spooky what have you for? This hardware shop
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: of horror. Tom, if you're if you're a Centralian resident
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and you're listening to the Tom and Jerry Show, by Jesus,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: don't keep it to yourself. Let us know, ah, fair
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: play and and uh and that is the spooky what
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: have you? Tom? But like you know, we're going to
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: keep the Halloween game running through the rest of the show.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And the next segment is one where we always take
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: a look at this ladder. Those lads are these lads
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: because they are always of this lad Tom, but especially
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: around Halloween. There's this lad Now there's that guy. So Tom,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: we're going to keep it spooky with this lad or
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: as I should say, as I come to find out these.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Lads, these lads, I mean, you could decipher it down
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and say this lad in one way based on a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: fella called Zacharia Sitchin. Have you ever heard of it?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I have not heard of the Zacharias sition.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Zacharaias Situ was a fella. He he lived from nineteen
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: twenty to I think twenty he got to ninety I
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: think twenty ten. And essentially what he did was he deciphered,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: slash translated a couple of tablets called Samerian tablets Samerian
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: text right, which were discovered by a British I mean,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, the word discovered by a British
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: fella like in like the nineteen twenties, we call them
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: mostachios and turning up what he discovered a load of
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: good gear in archaeological dig in Iraq back in the day, okay,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and essentially came up with these two tablets and the scent.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: They were carved big pieces of stone, and they had
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: all sorts of like hieroglyphics written on them from one
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: day and they told they told the story. By the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: time it was agreed that the translation was right by
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: this fellow zacharyasi Chin, he couldn't believe what he was
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: after finding essentially now true or nay, he was after
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: finding what these said. And they came from three thousand BC,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: these things right, okay. And essentially what they had said
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was there was a whole race that came to earth
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Yanks before that, like four hundred and fifty thousand years
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: before that. They were down to an actual number. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: this ra is known as the Anonaki.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: The Anaki much taller.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Than us, godlike people in their technology, right, there were
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: streets ahead of us in there in what they had
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in the way of technology and essentially what it would seem.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: They came to Earth from Nibiru otherwise known as the
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: twelfth planet, which isn't our solar system. We can't see it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They came as a result of their
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: own planet was struggling, right right, their own planet was struggling.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: In the bureau, the atmosphere was breaking up. But what
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: they found was gold dust actually held in the atmosphere,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: would actually see it, would actually help it and mend
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it and all the rest cure the puncture. No gold
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to be found, not enough to be found on the bureau.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Gold was found on Earth. Now, that's the argument saying, well,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: there's loads of precious metals and loads of that's why
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: is gold so precious here? It's from way back then,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: they would argue it, right, and Dan and Ecki at
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: this stage where I have to find some job to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: get this stuff out of the ground, and this where
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: it gets kind of spooky, and this where it gets
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: a bit weird, because that's.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Stage because it's perfectly mundane up to this point.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Tom, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and jump in at any point.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to lay out what I know for
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the time being, right, well, I know for the time being, I'm.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Going to I was here this time. I'm not jumping in.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: But this is already is a lot or just two tablets.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Listen, there was there was more to go with it
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. There was more that they found, you know
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So it was it was based on
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: these Sumerian text you know what I mean, There was
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of There was actually a lot of stuff
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: like but it was based on the basis of the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: whole thing was on these two tablets. But there was
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a lot more found as well.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: So okay, So so just just so, aliens from the
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: twelfth planet that we can't see needed gold dust to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: serve as leak seal for their atmosphere exactly, leak air
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: to hoover up three thousand BC.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Exactly. No, they were, Jesus, no, they were. They could
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: only date these tablets from three thousand BC. I'd say
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: they may they may have packed up at that stage,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? This This this is
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a story told at that point of three three thousand
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: BC of what had gone on prior for four hundred
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand years. Okay, and essentially what the what
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: the the text deciphered now mad story here or not?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It's some story to come up with off the time.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: And I don't know why they haven't made films about
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: proper films about this, but they they are essentially figured
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: this is who and work to get this gold stuff
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: up out of the ground. Do you know what we'll do?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: We'll develop our own slave race. And this is where
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: they reckon, do you know, because they can't Actually there's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: still a thing called the missing link even in Darwin's
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: evolutionary Yes, there isn't there. They cannot find that one.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: How we got from here to here, here to here?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And the idea being is that if anybody's seen Prometheus
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the movie, do you know how our origin started? Now?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Whether you know whether the Prometheus is true or not,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: whether it's.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: True or not, the idea being is that I don't know.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Did the artist suggest now they took a Homo sapien
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know, took up back to the lab, did
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: something with it. But they reckon. That is where they
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: start but they used the piece of themselves to you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the whole story of Adam and the rib and all
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the rest of it in God. And this is so
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: this is where they reckon that the basis of it was.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And now others there was another another part of the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: text said were made from mud and a piece of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: rib or whatever you know, and it's still biblical in
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: its own sense like fair, but they reckon that that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the Bible is all that that is is is I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: suppose a knockoff version of what the Samaran tablets have written.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: So they decided to make us now walk him around
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the place, of course, as it always does or never changes, baby,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and most likely down to so many wars Jere. It
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: seems there was riding going on between the gods some
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: of us, and it was frowned upon rascals.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: What can I say?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Rascals. They have found things like the basis of that
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: movie and.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Whatnot, so Stargate and Prometheus and Prome.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: But you know the Stargate that you go through and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: it's still Egyptian and all the rest. But I mean,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, right, because of a fairly far fit story.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Even if they've written today, you'd say, well, that's like
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: something a man that made scientology, but write fair enough.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: But to us some story to come up with three
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: thousand BC, like it's I would urge anybody far the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: pure crack is to just YouTube some videos and this stuff. Right,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Whether you want to buy it or not, it's completely
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: up to you. But I love the wilderness of this story.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Like it's huge, huge, says this, Tom right, what I want,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: says this. I've heard some version of that story told
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: many many times. Yeah, and this is the first time
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that it's been told, and it wasn't bullshit.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Do you know it's I like the idea or I'll
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: just listened.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: To it one time and I was like, yeah, sold,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you got me all of questions.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: All it took was just some rough nick across the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: way just to go do you know what? And you're like, yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I'm with.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Him, keeping it, keep it, keeping the keeping the King
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: of Spooky and HALLOWEENI we're coming into the sci fi
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of it all. So we've got these twelve planets. What
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: were the names again?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: The Maybian, No, the Bureau is the planet, but there
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Burero is the planet. They're the Anaki, which sounds very
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: south American right does a bit. Yeah, but then again
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: maybe South American sounds very we see here, here's the thing, right,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I can I can poo poo it all day long.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know, sure I mean it for a
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: while in myself.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: But two things. One, somebody was smoking something savage to write.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: That the guy called Zachary, who's.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Zachari is a situation? Well he translated. He's taking his
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: hands away and going listen, I'm only telling you.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: And yet I'm just reading it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And people agree that his translation of it is correct,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: like you know, peer's peer views and stuff like that. Yeah, okay,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that is what it's saying. But now, whether he's buying
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it or not, I suppose he probably did, reading it
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: from an old texture, probably going with Jesus Christ. Where
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: did he.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: He's a proper old sort of pith helmet wearing what what?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Well? He know there was a discovered it all first,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: but you know, didn't and probably hoofed half of back
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to England, if you know what I mean. Half it's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: probably be in a national museum or some richful as bolt.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, but they love Robin stuff, don't they. Oh jeez
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: want BRIT's Oh my lord, we need to rub this
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: stuff to plug up the leak in air atmosphere.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go. I mean they're putting off
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the ground. They licked it, that kind of behavior.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: But so the anauaky came over here to get the gold.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: How comes there's still gold in he come? I still
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing a gold wedding ring. For example. They didn't
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: take it all. No, they didn't like to strip the place.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: War amongst themselves happened then and for all the world.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: They don't know why they had to bog off. They
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: don't know at that stage. Do you are they gone
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: into and are do they tip back every so often?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Are they shape shifters? All these things are all left
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: open the air, right, But there was there's tale of
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and there's there's depictions of what these lads are. And
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: you see a lot of them. They're taller than us
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: in the depictions. Do Yeah, they're taller us a lot
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of time. They'll have like eagle like heads, you know,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and they're always carrying an our handbag.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: This is a thing that seems to turn up in
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: both Egypt, It turns off in Eastern America, turns up
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in Eastern Europe, all places that have these huge, shagging pyramids, right,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And this is the thing, I mean, you know, mummies
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and bandages and all the rest of it in pyramids.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: There was never a mummy in a band in the pyramid.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: They're buried in burial chambers up in the likes of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: looks or in place like that. But do you know
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: more than that?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: In a second, hendy spellers.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: What I an eki? Yeah, exactly how it sounds.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, hang on a second, Oh well, okay, sorry. Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: The Ananachy are a group of deities of ancient Sumerians.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: You see Sameri ancient Sameria as ghostbosters. That's where I
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: first started.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Are you look at them?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: They're just.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just the little fucking dudes.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: But by all account the rate foot tall.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Anonachy Sumerians. Look at this and the eagle
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: heads and the whole that. Well, I'm sold.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing that got me kind of
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: half sold on it, right, And I'll go down the
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: river a certain amount on it. I don't know how
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: how And you know, ancient aliens and all these things,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: how right or wrong, will never it'll be very naive
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: for all as humans turned and go, no, we know
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it all and that's that. And literally one.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Hundred's not going to be arrogant and say, yeah, I
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: know this is all.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: If somebody, if somebody one hundred years ago, which is
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: a blip in a time in the time of Earth,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: one hundred years is nothing, somebody showed you a phone,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: excuse me, I should have hit I should have hit
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the silence. Excuse me. If somebody showed you a phone
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: one hundred years ago, you would have been burnt at
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the stake for being a witch, for keeping the devil
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: in your hand, do you know what I mean? So,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and that suggesting that there definitely was aliens, because the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: evidence to me is this right. And I've done the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: numbers many times when you look at some of the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: ship that they built that was straight up was built
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: before Yezzos or anybody else can was putting down on
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: paper long before. And I'm talking about ancient, not just
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: ancient Egypt, ancient Japan, ancient Bosnia, ancient because they reckon
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: like the Aztecs only took over those pyramids they got
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: they didn't know they were there. They were there because
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the Aztecs weren't. Aren't that far back like the Aztecs
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: were like the four and hundreds or something like. It's
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: not that far back, do you know? So they were,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: But what did the Aztecs maybe not the Mayans? Maybe
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the Aztects think were prior to them. Were they and
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: then the Mayans come on? But they're not that far back.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: They're not like fifty thousand years ago, you know what
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I mean? Check it, check it out. They're not that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: far back. It's scary how not far they are.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: They're not that far off. The famine all these.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Things, well, I mean they were. They were around when
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the conquistadors landed on again all small pox, do you
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? So there were some lads walking
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: around there in like you know, or.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: In fourteen ninety two that was Columbus threat. Yeah, so yeah,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I know, but Tom, you do. Don't ask me another question. Though.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: They're like they were at the potting up to the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: limits of my knowledge here, buddy.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: But if you look, if you look at things like
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: say the cemmetry of the faces at the template lucks Ore, OK.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: And it couldn't be done these days. It couldn't be done,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: not on that scale. We still don't have a three
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: D printer basically that would do it to that scale.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And a man, a man's hand would never get it
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: that right like it split down the middle, cannot find
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the difference in on either side of the faces that
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: look so that aside. You go, okay, well that's just
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: skills thing. And I don't want to hear floating rocks,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: can rolling rocks. I don't want to hear anything. When
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you look at the Great Pyramid, they would have had
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to have in the timescale that they reckon it was
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: built in, they would have had to have won in
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: every ninety seconds. I don't give a shit. I have
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: built enough things in my time to know that was
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: machinery or some superpower that put that thing together. The
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: fact that it's still standing and you cannot tell me
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you can shift a seventy ton stone on any kind
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: of rock, on any kind of boat, because the boats
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: they are suggesting were made of timber. You are not
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: how you get None of these things are adding up.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm going to tell you, Tom slaves
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: they get the job.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Done, They won't get the job done, and by all accounts,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: they weren't the other argument by modern day archaeologists, who
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: agreed that they weren't actually slaves at all. They were
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: actually well paid skills people. But anyway, that aside, Yeah,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: prisoners with jobs, you ain't getting that thing together. I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: don't care. You could have started it. They can't build
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: finish the church in Barcelona. It's taken one hundred and
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: nine years, do you know what I mean?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but they are getting paid by the error,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: not the job tome.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: That's right. But at the same time, yeah, and I
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: want to hear if I can hear valid, and I
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: haven't heard a single one validing of how they built
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the likes of the Great Pyramid, Like the Sphinx is
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: far older when you look at the water damages on
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it just from rain alone. Yes, they said, well, you
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: know three four thousand years ago during whatever dynasty it
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: was built. Then you're like, but when they showed the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: rock damage on it to geologists up close, they went, oh,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that's twenty thousand years plus the Sphinx this thin, Oh,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand years plus would have to do that to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that type of stone just from rain alone to do
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: that kind of damage twenty thousand years plus, And then
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: who after that kubble one hundred thousand years plus, not
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: saying why are they hiding that? And if they're hiding that,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: what are they hiding? It seems to be just I'm
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: just saying to open the mind to a possibility. There's
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: something very very cool and something way better than lads
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: with rocks and fucking lungs rolled seventy ton blocks in
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: every one every ninety seconds. They got it in and
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: got it in bang on that the yolk is still
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: standing and standing due north as well, like the thing
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: is actually pointing due north. Now, there's loads of numbers
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: that all these you know lads will come match to it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: If you go round it three times, it's enough to
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you know, stay the life cycle U a butterfly on it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about the numbers or anything,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: but apparently there's loads of numbers that's circumference of it
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: is exactly that multiple, you know, as a direct line
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: to the diameter of the earth. I don't know, I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: don't care. I'm on to the bear, blood, sweat and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: knuckles that got that joke together, and we'll just pick one.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Even though there's rakes of her. There's even apparently a
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: bigger one in Bosnia. It just hasn't been ever bothered
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: with Bosnia, a permen bosnia that they just haven't even
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: bothered with. They're like, well, sure, look at it is
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: It's just we get around.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: We get around to it. Once we get in there
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: with a bit of round up and get all the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: weeds off it, then we can talk. But for the
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: time being, we've enough to be at. We've enough to
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: be at. But it's the pure sheer fucking building of
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that joke. I'm not I need to hear something better.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Then we threw it in and we rolled in a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: sure look at we've rolled it in and they've done
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: demonstrate and like they have stuff cut like they're you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: there's there's cut stones inside, like cut granite that's cut
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, the copper knives now, Jesus Christ Almighty,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: nobody needs to be a metal urgist or a stone
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: bason to know you're cutting nothing.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: With a copper with a copper knife.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: No, a bad saw won't even cut timber, like, and
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that's a saw that's meant for timber. You're sure shit
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: not drilling. You're not cutting any form of stone with
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a copper knife. Copper comes out of stones when you
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: melt a stone, and the copper is the first thing
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to run out of It ain't going to cut a
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: basic So when you're saying that, I just need I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: want to hear a genuine here is what we reckon
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: did it. It's not to do with aliens. But until
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I hear that, I think it was aliens. There.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Tom, I'm not going to have a
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: row with you, but especially not a spooky Halloween row, brother,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: because I'm not going to stand here and say Aliens
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: didn't make the Perramids or Samerian people love the Anawahi family.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he's different.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Rrek Macross, Yeah, I'm talking about. Yeah, the Anawaihi family,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Yokazuna and Roman reigns and all the boys there coming
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: over from Samoa to day the SmackDown on these Samerian bastards.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna count you on that one. Not gonna
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: have a raff with Tom. But I think before we
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: wrap up this Halloween special, maybe there's something we can't have.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: A rob bush my head two don't stop go on,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So let's have a row.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Tom. We've done this before with the action superheroes of
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: our day.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of one of my favorite episodes. Yeah,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: who was the top Dog?
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Who was the daddy? Between Arnie Slyly and Bruce And
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's only fair on Halloween that we do
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: But for some of the.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Biggest movie monsters of our time. Now, I'm not gonna
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: go back to the Draculas and the Frankensteins and the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Wolfmen of the nineteen twenties because I gotta tell you, Tom,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: when you sit and watch that stuff these days, I'm
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: sorry to say, it's quite unwatchable. Although I will give
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: a shout out to the Hammer franchises with the Christopher
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: leaves Lee and Peter Cushings of the fifties, and they
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: can be scary bastards. The thing I have to say,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just something we want in me now that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: that that that hazard. Wee bit scared. But I'm talking
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: about the proper eighties what we would have grown up with, Tom,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: the things that would have scared us from the shelves
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: of extra vision when we were gass three people from
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the Halloween franchise, Mister Michael Myers from the Friday the
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Thirteenth franchise, mister Jason Viwer, He's and from the Nightmare
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: on Elm Street, mister Freddy Krueger. We're going to work
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: out right here and now who is the dawn?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And before anybody pipes in and go, you didn't add
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: in Hillary Is or you didn't, Yeah we can.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't Chucky and you didn't Hillary's and I
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: didn't we hear all night? Yeah, these are these are
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: now I will say the post our children, Yeah, the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: top three.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: And and you know the clown fellow with the swarthy
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: cheeks and stuff like that. Yeah, we get right.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look, these are the we did when we
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: did when we did Arnie Bruce and Slay you know
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: we didn't do.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: We know, there we go exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: suppose we'll.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Have him in his left in the podcast. Folks, what
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: do you want from us?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I mean the argument being, I suppose the choice being
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: is we rate them on bad bastardness, you know, overall
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: non killability.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of things Tom even for sheer numbers.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Now the Nightmare on Elm Street series with Freddy Krueger
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: comes in at let me have a look here. Now
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: it is some total of I want to say nine
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: films either that, Yeah, nine films for Freddy and then
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: twelve for Friday the thirteenth, and thirteen for Halloween. If
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to go for sheer kill count, the guy
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: with the most is Michael Myers has a kill count
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: up in the learn about the one hundred and sixty mark,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: followed by Freddy or a beg pardon, followed by Jason
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: learning about the one forty mark, and Freddie common up
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the rear. As the man would say himself, why're ring
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: about sixty kills?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: If there's one man you don't want up the rear,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: it's the fellow with that, you know, which I often wondered,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: like they all seem to utilize a thing that's kind
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of hanging around the garden shade.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Do you know, well, this is the thing, this is
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: by Tom. This is the first thing we can run
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: their weapon of choice.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's let's go with that. So I guess
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: we'll start with Michael Myers. So he's the kitchen knife,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: a kitchenst not exactly pushing the boat out, unkillable bastard
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: that he is. Yeah, and if he's coming at you
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: with a knife. Kitchen knives tend not to have the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: greatest stage in the world. But at the same time,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: if you know, if one hundred kilo man who can't
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: be killed is swinging it at you, he's going to
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: do some damage.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you one thing with the kitchen knife, Tom,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to go on to watch list
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: from the guards here at all with the things I
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: say on this podcast, But the kitchen knife doesn't have
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: the greatest range. Like he has to be on top
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: of you to get you exactly, you know, moves quiet.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I'll give him that for a guy that's you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: twenty two stone of just raw muscle.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's the old phrase, never bring a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: knife to a gunfight. But it would seem you can't
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: even shoot him, and it do no and you.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Say unkillability, Like these guys came back to life at
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: least nine times a piece here now, so they're all
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: fairly immortal. They're going to come back one way or another.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: There's no killing these bastards.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: So you have in one hand Gordon Ramsey chopping onions
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and in the other hand you've Michael Myers with the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: same thing.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, Michael Myers with the kitchen knife. And
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: then you have Jason Berry's Virt's Jason Oden Friday the thirteenth.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: With the machete. With a machete. Yeah, So again I'm
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you, you do you do?
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: You do?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: You know what, there's probably something more sinister and a
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: fella that wants to get in close.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It's a machete all the same. The knife gonna stab
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you today in a kind of a maming way, maybe
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: lop off an ear or whatever. The ma shitt he
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: would have enough force, I suppose, in a good edge
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: in the mood would suggest, I think, come flying off
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: like you know what I mean.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, like you know, it's it's close quarters
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: and these are slow lumbering you know. One of the
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: scariest things about them is that they you know you
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: people say it's very silly, very sort of a parody
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: sort of a thing. When it gets slightly serious. Here
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Tom the way that you know, Michael Myers is walking
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: after you and you're running like fuck, and then you
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: turn around he's still just walking after you. And then
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: you run, run, run, run, run at like you saying
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: bold speed and you turn around and he's walking after you,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: but he's still somehow catching up with you.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I've always said that you're a good steady pace
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and a walk like would match any long run, because
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: at some point you'd have to stop for a breather.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Walks go well, this is this is this is this
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: is this is why.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get too serious about it or
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: too like nerdy about it or anything like that. But
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I noticed something like when my kids were real, real small,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: like when they were toddlers. You ever see a toddler run,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: like if he's been giddy or whatever like that hilarious? Yeah, yeah, pointless,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: And they put their every effort into running, and all
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: you have to do to keep pace with him is
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: just walk. Just a handywalk, Yeah, just a handywalk, and
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: he's running the hell And he turns around and he
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: looks up at you, and you're just like walking behind him,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's probably what that's from. Yeah, probably
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: from that sort of like being a helpless child.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I'm much like a helpless child who flops around the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: place like a fish for some unknown reason. There's always
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: some tree root, some loose gully grace, there's always some
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: curb that she always trips over and cracks her knee
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: on the ground. There's a load of rown rather than
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: ducking and rolling and popping back up again and keeping
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the sprint going arly fall over for some.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I've never been I've never I've never been stalked with
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a knife. Hum, So I can't say how I would act.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I'd like to think that I just wouldn't, for no
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: good reason, fall out of me standing unless there was.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: A feed of pints.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: That's been the time, you know. I mean a lot
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: of these kids are drinking and smoking weed any regardless
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: of way. Right, You've got a couple of buys ambling
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: after you with a sharp edged item. And then if
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Freddy Kruger and he kind of I gotta tell you him,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: he's the He's the outlier because his primary weapon of
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: choice isn't his very cool gloved hands with naive is
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: because he could kill you. He could take it into
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: a dream and drop a safe on your head like
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Wiley Coyote.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: glove always was interesting. You still get him in I
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: suppose costume shops today and whatnot. But again, another yoke
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine the movie was originally conceived by
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: somebody seeing one of it. That's a real item that
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: used to be for sale for triming toperry bushes, like
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: or you'd put a good yeah really yeah, that was
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: a garden tool. That was a garden you serious, Yeah,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: for to pery apparently, so it's for doing like you
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: know literally you're you're you Edward Yeah yeah yeah. So
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that's again another thing where I'm guessing somebody. But that's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: the scariest looking thing ever. It's it's it's a glove
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: with giant nails stick.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I always thought that was just like a thing he
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: made special.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: No, apparently it's for topery. Yeah, and you could see
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: work if you've got a good edge on it now,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you know, snip snip snip much on that so so.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: So like, I don't know that we can divvy them
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: up very much on their on their weaponry, because they
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: seemed to be all playing from the one deck. But
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: that that that that Freddy Krueger might off a cliff
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: in a dream and then you wake up and you've
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: jumped off your house.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So I think Freddy's range
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: in his potential could have you literally opened the door
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: of an aeroplane and jump out, you know, exactly.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I guess. I guess it's not so
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: much the weapon, it's our method of dispatch about that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean you know, it
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: all ends the same way.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Is it more sinister for a fellow to be on
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: top of with a knife or is it inside your
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: dreams throwing you through a thousand plaster boards until you
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: splatter on the last one. Who I think that one's
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I would say I'd have to nearly give it to
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Freddy for potential.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll give it to Freddy. So Tom, the next thing,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: the next thing I'm going to give you, But we've
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: got two more categories to go. Yeah, and the next
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: category is okay, so this is like the winner of
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: this category is is goes to the bottom of the piloting.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: So if you lose by winning, okay, yeah, okay, who
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: do you think you could fight and survive Freddy? Okay,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: let's just pull it that for a little second here. Okay,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: on any given scenario of these three lads coming at
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: you with our with our with our with our with
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: our method of choice, I.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Probably pull that trigger a bit quick quick there because
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: it's been on the light side. But if we can
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: stay out of my head, I.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Think, well, see that's the thing, like you know, that's
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: the thing. Okay, So this is like, okay, you're you're
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: fighting them on their own turf. All right. So you've
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: got Michael Myers in your house right now at the minute,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: he's in your house somewhere, he's downstairs, you're upstairs. Okay,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to go out a window. You
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: can't go one on you. You can't charge them one
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: on one. That's not going to work out. Ah, Jason Burr,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: He's is stalking you through a woods and pitch dark knight,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: and Freddy Krueger is coming after you in your dreams
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: as he is wont to do. Okay, So now, Tom,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: what scenario are you walking away from? I think I
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: just say straight Could I just say straight off? Freddy's
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: killing me quickly? Y, Yeah, he's going to get to
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: be cranky as if I don't get me sleep. So
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: he has easily twelve hours of any given day.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: To help me sleep. At the minute, I'm taking CBD tablets.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: So I mean I've seen a couple of you know,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: p dragons and stuff like that. Yeah, for the first
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: few minutes of sleep, so most I'm in a deep sleep. Yeah,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: he's absolutely he's killing me outright. He the deaths by
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: a thousand moths or something horrendous. I think if we're
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: if we're going toe to toe, I think I can.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I think I can do Jason. I think I can
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: get inside. I think I can get inside that machete.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: And if I get my hands in that thing, I
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: think I can break a leg. I think I can.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I think I can.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I think I can with either of them. All you
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: can do is I can slow them down enough to
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: get away.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, there we go, like, I don't I don't think.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would seem if low and movies
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: are to be appreciated and believed, and we go along
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the lines of what they've been able to do in
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the past. We ain't killing anybody, killing any of these
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: because they're the one day that would seem.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: No, But I'm getting in my car and driving away
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: from them.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like runn into the
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: wheels come off. The cops can try and stop me
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: if they want best. Yeah. Look, but I reckon I
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: could slow Jason down. Yeah, best, I reckon. I could
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: definitely try and blow a knee out, you know, acl
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: or something. Just give everything I can on, you know,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: on his on his machete side. You go in the
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: machete side because you want to get in closer to it.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Don't don't go on the knee on the far side,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: because he'll be able to cut across at you. Yeah,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: get down, give everything you have in that ten to
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, he's gone, a bitch Jesus Christ, No mean, yeah,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: while he's doing that going, he's dead. I swear to God,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I'm smoking tires up the road. I don't care whose
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: card is. We're going. We're away, We're away, Yeah, We're gone.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I do think like like Jason is is best. And
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, Tom, Jason is more of a
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: supernatural sort because he is just a zombie. He's just
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: like he is. I think they say it out rightly,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: this case a zombie Michael Myers, that it was all
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: the case of oh isn't this fuck christin't it?
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: I could have sworn a shot him and then he
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: came up at me again. But Jason's like there's no
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: killing this guy. He's like the sixty year old drowned
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: goblin child coming at me.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I can. I think right being right
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: with with Jason, I can run fast enough. Then again,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: you see you're taking him on in the forest and
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: the pitch dark knight, like.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: You know, all your eyes will adjust to like you know,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: he's enough to get away. Yeah, he's got that stupid
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: mask over his face, which is a POxy looking hockey
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: mask by the way. Fun fact, does anybody know what
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Michael Myers mask actually is? Oh?
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yes I do, actually, yes, yes, yes, yes, indeed, let's
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: let's throw it open to the to the listeners that
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: you can let us know in the comments. If you
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: know what Michael Myers mask is, win thumbs up from us.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: There, You're not gonna win a whole pile, but you'll
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: win a you'll win a big you'll win the love
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: of toomagery. Yeah, but that there you go.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, So we're both agreed that Jason and would be
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the art. Now we're not suggesting we're, you know, monster killers,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: but we kind of are. But at the very we
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: can just about allow our cowardliness to flourish by.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I am no monster killer, Tom, but I am one
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: of this world's best monster of voiders.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: So Jason hits the bottom of the deck there.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: With Michael not behind, not far behind him.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: So Freddie again tops the bowl.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: So this is the last question, Tom, this is the
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: last question. We're grown men, true children.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which of them scared you the most?
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Ready? It's just pretty sorry clean sweep from mister Krueger there,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: because he is the look ats on of a bitch.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of it too. When I saw I
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: think he showed up in I think it was like
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: it was TV show. It was like it was, you know,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: much like Black Mirrors, a new episode every week.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a taste from It wasn't taste.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: He had his own TV show, his own he had
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: his own TV show and to be on a Friday
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: night Yeah.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Robert England, isn't it?
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: And I remember just being it was like getting to
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: see behind the great osis curtain that Freddy, because Freddy,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: in a very creepy way, only meant after children.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Teenager that was who his thing was were teenagers.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: That was the stocking trade.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where's the other two whatever got in their.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Way in front of getting Yeah, anyone can get it.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: So so Freddy, going back to your childhood, Freddie was
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: the one that was custom built to scare the living show.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: He was. And I was like, because like, here's the thing.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: These movies were coming out as we were growing up,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: So you were going to there'd be a poster on
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: the front of extivisions, walk past and you look up
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and here he was looking down at you. Again. I'll
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: never forget seeing the video cover for Nightmare on Elm
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Street three Dream Wars, one of the one of the
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: pick of them, I must said, and now one of
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: the better of the Elm Street movies. And he's just
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: there on the cover in front street jacket, claw up
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the whole lot and you see that, and that's like
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: the scariest monster I had ever seen in my life.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: And then besides it is Michael Myers in a white mask.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. Yeah.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing I want to say, any tom right,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: we're Irish. Yeah, I don't think that right. The third
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: thing was all that big a deal.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Over here, I don't think so.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think we put all our money on him.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: No, no, I'm with you on that one.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not to the level or maybe just like Freddie
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: took all the oxygen and that was the crack of
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: the playground round airway. But I don't seem to remember
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: anybody going being like big Jason heads right here.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I think sometimes, you know, certain movies
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: can go wow, is this not a bigger movie? You know?
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, like Arna Schwartz and Thingkker's Junior,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: How is it not a bigger movie? It was pushing
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: boundaries all over the place. But I'm guessing something cool
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: to Yeah, I know. I tried to figure random like
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: if anybody's ever seen Michael Keaton's Christ, it's after going
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: out of my head and it's one of I think
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: it's a great movie. It's multiplicity, yes, riginally active, but
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: when you look into it's like, oh, there was a
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: ton of unbelievably funny movies come out around the same time,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: And I wonder, did Jason just never get to hop
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: here because just the marks out flooded and Freddy ruled
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: it here because as you said, like you look at
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the poster and it's like all right, I felt wearing
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: a shite looking mask of a sport that we don't
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: play here. It's got a boiler suit on and a mask,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: a white mask that you can't work out in its
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: own right. It is creepy, suggesting creepy. Freddy's straight up
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: stress skin off. His face looks like a ball bag,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: pinting nose and a big old sharp yok. And he
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: can climb in yours and killed you.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, it looks like it looks like a clean
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: sweep for Freddy Krueger here, Tom. But that's one thing
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: we haven't mentioned yet that really seals the deal for me,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: and maybe it will seal the deal for you. One
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: difference between Freddy Krueger and Michael Myers and Jason Ferries
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: one very important detail. Well, he talks, yes, And not
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: only does he talk, he's a smart art Yeah.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a proper bollix.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a bolis Yeah. And he'll give you a
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: ship while he's killing you. So not only you die
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: and you're like, what, don't make a fucking half of it?
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think now probably somebody not talking is
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: a bit more sinister a than an adult looking at
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: it but as a child, you're very I suppose very literal.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: You're killing me and you're picking out of me.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're picking. Yeah, you give me ship, you're bullying,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: giving me sh bully while killing me two of my
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: least favorite things. Yeah, Jesus. So that's a very valid point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: And I think that's a I think that's a clean sweep.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: But like I say, Tom, sometimes when we have a rowe,
• 58:13
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