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Ep. 137 - The Geographic Cure vs. The Healthy Move: Navigating Relocation in Sobriety. · Trudge Report

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  SPEAKER_04: Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to another episode of Trudge Report.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh, gentlemen, good evening.
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  SPEAKER_04: If that audio was not that great, that's because I had my microphone all the way turned around opposite of me, and uh I just put it here.
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  SPEAKER_04: You can see this little boom boom right there.
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  SPEAKER_04: So apologies.
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  SPEAKER_04: Good evening, happy recording day.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_04: I think we go straight to the main event.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_04: Corey Mitchner, how are you, sir?
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_04: What's going on?
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_04: Tell us about yourself.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: Uh about myself.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um, go birds, first off.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_03: Go birds, and I don't know.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_03: Did we decide if we're talking sports?
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_03: Oh well.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_03: Go birds.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_03: We will on the back end, but if you want to touch on it, touch on it.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'll touch on it.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_03: I'll touch on the birds.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_03: I'll touch on the back end, dude.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, no, that's it's fun.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: That's fun.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_03: We will we will have NFL talk on the back end though, for sure.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, well we'll we'll save it for that, I guess, Go Birds.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, dude, I don't know, not too much.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um same old shit, dude.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_03: Working a lot.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we did something different today.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_03: We dropped my kids off with my mom all day long for absolutely no reason and just had a day.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't do anything too special.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_03: Sat around a lot.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_03: I I did like the littlest bit of work, but like not much.
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  SPEAKER_03: Watched some football.
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  SPEAKER_03: Then we went grocery shopping and shit, which we haven't been grocery shopping without the kids in I don't know, seven and a half years.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_03: So um very ordinary day, but just without kids that we we just never pull that move, but it was great.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't just one wash the kids and one goes.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's what we no that's what we normally do.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's the move, dude.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_03: Well, here's the deal.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_03: I listen, you guys are you you guys got me all the way fucked up.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to the grocery store unsupervised.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not doing it.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_04: Actually, can you guys imagine that?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_04: Can he be he would call Gabby like 20 times?
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_04: Gabby list, dude.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_04: What bread do I buy?
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's the thing.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_03: The list, okay, and then I I mean I I do it.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_04: They have honey wheat, they have whole wheat, they have white, they have potato bread.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_04: Gabby, which one do I get?
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_03: There's this thing called rye bread.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_03: Do you do you no?
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_03: Do you guys realize that I will I will fucking die?
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's if I bring something if I bring it up.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'm realizing it now in real time.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, that's good.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: Don't go to the grocery store by yourself.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_03: No, she'll kill me if I get it wrong.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean, yeah, dude.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_03: And what if they're out of something that's on the list?
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_03: I then what?
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_03: And then I'm gonna panic.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_04: Let me ask you a question.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_04: So if like she's busy and she's like, Corey, we need milk, and that's I got that.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_01: I got new people that 7-Eleven.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: You don't even need to go to the grocery store.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_04: I get so mad at Catherine when she goes to like Walgreens in 7-Eleven to get that stuff because it's literally like three times the price.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_04: Like, do not do that, Catherine.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, dude, no, speaking of milk and how much it costs, dude, we're at we're at Walmart tonight, and it's a gallon of milk is$272.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: I said we should probably get milk here.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's pretty cheap.
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  SPEAKER_03: And she goes, I'm kind of putting her on blast, but she goes, I really like the shape of the gallon at Sam's, though.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_03: No, I said it's probably fucking more expensive.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, I will say this.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_03: It fits our fridge, it's not very big, and it does fit in the fridge a little better.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: I've never heard this in my life.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, dude, you got I mean, this is real shit.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_04: Well, the Sam's Club does have the taller, skinnier gallon.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_03: But for$272, I'm getting it at Walmart all day.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I so then we get the Sam's and we go to the milk, and I'm like, Gabby, this is a fucking dollar fifty more, dude.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_03: We're we're gonna die.
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  SPEAKER_03: We can't do this.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_03: So anyway, we got that milk, but that's a real thing, too.
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  SPEAKER_03: And anyway, these are the decisions that I would have to make if I was alone in a grocery store.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: I can't do that.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: I live we've we eliminated that whole ordeal a long time ago.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: We don't go to the grocery store.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well they get delivered.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: We we typically don't either, honestly.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_04: Greg, what have you to do with these guys?
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_04: I'm with Ben.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, I'm out.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_03: Time is money, and it saves a lot of time.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, no one's I love going grocery shopping.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Greg, do you do the grocery shopping?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_04: I do the grocery shopping in my back.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I like I don't I don't like going on the weekends, bro.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: I I love it.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_04: I go on Monday afternoon.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, seriously.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: No one, no one, no one can do that.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_04: I go, yeah, that's good.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_04: Nobody can do that.
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  SPEAKER_04: While I'm getting paid, by the way, guys.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_04: While I'm getting paid, just so you know.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_04: I've been known to have an earbud in and be on a zoom work thing in Walmart, in you know, Windixie, wherever I'm at.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_03: Well the other thing is is like Walmart, whenever they did away with their 24 hour shit, they completely eliminated my shopping times because we used to go at like a I mean the you know, pre-kids.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_03: We used to go at like 11 30 midnight just to avoid all the bullshit.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_04: I still like the 10 p.m.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_04: Saturday night.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_04: I go to a meeting Saturday nights, most Saturdays, 8 30 meeting, and then I like to go to 10 p.m.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_04: I see Glenn there all the time, that's always a treat.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_04: Love Glenn.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_04: Anyway, riveting stuff we're talking about.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_04: I'm pretty sure I cut Glenn off in traffic the other day on total accident.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_04: It wasn't even like in traffic.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_04: I was pulling out of Taco Bell, and he was like coming up the side road, but like you know how like you're coming out of the drive-thru sometimes, and that to make that turn, it's like you kind of gotta hit a wide turn because it's like such a a tight corner, and uh and he was like coming up the other way, and he was going like five miles an hour, it wasn't like anything, and he saw me up coming a while, and he I like turned and he did one of these like and then like he saw me and he was like hi it was really no I was about to say can Greg, do you think you can like give us an impression of of Glenn getting cut off in traffic?
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_03: Because yeah, there it is.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta do the hands and you gotta have the gloves on, Greg.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: God bless him.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, he's the best, dude.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_04: Uh hey, dude, he's like almost there's about 13%, 13% of our listenership know who he is.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe more, actually.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe more.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe they should fuck here and get in get sober and don't know who Glenn is.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_04: Danny P, what's going on, buddy?
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh not much, man.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: We had uh we dropped a nice 1500 at the dentist this week for a little root canal and a filling.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: But not as much as it could have been.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, 100%, dude.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, seriously, that guy, uh my dentist is amazing.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so that that that was fun.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: All that uh good stuff.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: Had my mouth open for two hours.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: That was how painful was all that.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_04: That's probably not the first time you had your mouth open.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_04: There was a big thing.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you set it up, but I set it up, you knocked it down, baby.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um man, no, it wasn't painful at all, man.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, he's phenomenal.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: He really is.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like the next day and stuff, like no, I had no pain at all.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, no, he was good.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I so I chipped a tooth last week too.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: So he fixed that and all that stuff, and you know what I mean.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: So he's he's he's a he's he's a good dude, man.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: But we had to do that, and then um today was uh Superman card day.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: Take apart Alyssa's car and fix the thermostat, put that back together and mow the lawn and do all that stuff and clean the garage and uh all that jazz because uh softball was cancelled, and then um I don't think we really had much going on.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: This week was kind of nice, man, because it was kind of back to normal.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: Work and uh Alyssa working nights and Maya back on normal schedule.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so it was it was pretty good, man.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: Couple couple little eventful bumps where we were feeling kind of crappy uh all week.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it was.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: Everyone around here has been like, I don't know, I don't know what it is, man.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a stomach bug slash like sore throat.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: I got put on antibiotics.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was strep, but it didn't test positive for strep.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: It was weird.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was like COVID 74 or something.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: It was a weird, weird strain going around, man.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like all week, it was like just like you know, when you feel like you know, like you're not sick, but you're just off.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like and I just felt off all week.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then today was the first day actually felt like a hundred percent good.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um Yankees threw away a nice chance to gain on the uh raise, you know.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: Is Judge hurt too?
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Judge, yeah, Judge is hurt.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: He's probably not.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because he's that's what like when he came back, he was garbage because his timing's off.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so if he comes back, uh I mean he makes the lineup better, so all you need is in it, you just need him in the lineup, you know.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_04: But uh, is he is he hurt hurt or is he hurt like oh we're just gonna sit him out for the rest of the regular season and let's get him ready for the postseason hurt.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm nervous they won't release what grade strain it is.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's a leg, right?
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Some leg, a leg strain or something.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a leg strain, and you know, usually a grade one strain on the muscle that he uh that he uh he hurt is usually like three weeks.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: So he could be back for October, but if it's a grade two, he's cooked.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so like they won't release what it is, which is kind of weird.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: So that kind of puts me to the point of if he does come back, he's probably gonna DH.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: He can still swing a bat, you know what I mean?
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: And he makes the lineup better, you know.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: But I'd honestly have more because Judge is really a field guy, man.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: He's gotta get his time in and all that stuff.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: Where like I'd rather have Big G back.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: Big G, you put him out there, man.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna hit four bombs in the you know what I mean.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: He uh he doesn't he doesn't need any warm-ups or anything like that.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: But um that's gonna it's gonna come down to our pitching.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's it.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Our pitching's been phenomenal.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: You might I was just gonna say, you might have the best pitching staff at all of baseball.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_04: So there is that.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, easy.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: And that you know, the middle innings relief is the only you know, where as it is in every playoff or every team, you know.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_04: But Greg, how'd that series turn out?
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_04: I think you guys are in first place now, aren't you?
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, baby.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: We are actually.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: I I went to the uh the game last night, and it was one of the most exciting baseball games I've been to.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Did you get free food again?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, not this time, but dollar dollar dangles.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, dollar dogs, and um yeah, dude, it was it ended up being a 12 to 6 ball game.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy exciting, lots of lots of big hits, lots of home runs.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it was really fun to watch.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, it was good time.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, so they just that was the second to last or today was the last home game of the season.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Then they got a series against Boston and a series against uh Kansas City.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: So gotta close it out.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um good stuff.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: What else is going on?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just uh regular little week.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: My my algorithm has been jacked since uh 9-11.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: So uh since the anniversary of 9-11, my since 2001, dude?
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, no, but since the anniversary last week, and we talked about it on the show, and I've been posting our videos of us talking about it on the show.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: It hears you, it does so it does, right?
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: So my algorithm's been all 9-11 stuff.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: Corey keeps getting gay porn on his algorithm.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's a little bit of that too, but yeah, I mean, um have you guys did you guys ever oh man, where's this going?
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: The story about how James Woods may have been able to prevent 9-11, the actor James Woods.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: I have not heard that story, dude.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: This is wild, man.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to take up too much time, but this is absolutely crazy.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, James fucking woods, what a guy, right?
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Number one, what a great actor.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, August 2001, he's wrapping something up in Boston, flying back to LA, gets on a plane, he's first class, obviously, right?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um naturally gets himself a glass of scotch, he's sitting there, they're flying in first class, going to LA, and there are some uh Muslim people up in first class as well, right?
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: And he said that um he was paying attention to them and uh apparently like the dude in like 1A is talking in code to the dude behind James Woods, and like so they're talking, but they're not looking at each other while they're talking kind of deal.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: So he was like uh kind of weirded out about it.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: So he goes, he he tells the stewardess, you know, hey, I think these guys might be like trying to hijack this plane.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: So she's like maybe not taking him seriously, whatever.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's had a couple scotches out James.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's James Woods, you know.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um maybe he's prepping for a movie role, like getting into character, who knows?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: But whatever.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: So so it progresses.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: They're gonna be able to get an alcoholic.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: The flight attendant notices it, so she alerts the pilot.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: The pilot comes out and talks to James Woods.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: James Woods is like, yeah, kind of like, hey, you see these guys over my shoulder, yada yada.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: So the pilot arranges to have these guys questioned whenever they land in LA, right?
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, plane doesn't end up getting hijacked, whatever.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently, these dudes slip through the cracks when they when they leave, whatever everybody deplanes, yada yada.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: A month goes by, 9-11 happens, right?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: So then James Wood says he's he's at a party, like you know, the two nights after, or something like that.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: A couple people are talking, and they're like, Hey, like that, you know, one of his friends was like, That crazy story you you told us about like a month ago about you guys like you thought your plane was getting hijacked.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you think that that's like noteworthy?
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we should tell anybody, and he's like, I don't know, whatever.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: He sat on it for the night, and then he ended up calling the FBI and like filing a tip, and they're like, Listen, we appreciate it, you know.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we won't reach back out to you because we've been flooded with like 36,000 tips in the last 24 hours, you know, whatever.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: But thank you for your for your tip.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: Probably nothing will come of it, but we will investigate it, whatever.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: The next morning, James Woods gets a phone call from the FBI, and they're like, Hey, we need to talk to you right away, you know.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we need to talk to you about your experience on this flight, yada yada yeah.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: And James was like, Yeah, yeah, you know, that's that's cool.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'll I'll come down.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: Where's your office at?
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: And they're like, No, actually, we're we're outside your home.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: They had like two special agents.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, How do you know where I live?
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, We're the FBI, like you know, whatever.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: So they they ended up talking to him and they ended up going over the stuff, and sure enough, dude, on that flight manifest was one of the guys on there was uh Mohammed Atta, who was like the leader of all of them, and he's the dude that actually flew the the first plane into the first tower on 9-11.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's wild, was one of the dudes on so they were like practicing, they were like doing a dry run, you know, for that.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like man, if somebody would have taken James Woods a little bit more seriously, yeah, who knows what could have happened, man.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, isn't it isn't it interesting too how he he noticed them, he was paying attention to them.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_04: What he was really doing was stereotyping the shit out of them, and and in that instance for really good reason, yeah, but it's just amazing, like it's just kind of I don't know, it's amazing.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's nuts.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: 25 years go by.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I knew everything there was to know about like this kind of and like that was the first I'd ever heard of that story.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: It was wild.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_03: Here's the deal.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I don't want to get cancelled on Trudge Report or nothing, but stereotypes exist for a reason, typically.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no, I I well they're based on fact, man.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: I mean yeah, dude.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: And like, I mean, fuck, dude.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: I I used to what did I say, Greg?
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_03: We were just up in Philly and we went over to Camden, and I said Um I was like, I was like, we're gonna oh no, we well we went to Kensington, I was like, we're fucking four white dudes in a fucking van in Kensington, we're gonna get pulled over.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_03: And like we didn't, but like that was the the deal back in the day.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like you can't be white and be in those areas, you're there for drugs.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_03: You are there for drugs, yeah, or you're a cop.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_03: So and we did get flagged as cops, so there's that.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's crazy, Greg.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_04: That's crazy.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_04: That's nuts.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_04: Great actor, though.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_04: Great actor, James Woods.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_04: Phenomenal.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, sure.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_04: All right, boys.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_04: Um Corey, this was your kind of idea uh as a topic.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_04: How about you, Sean?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_04: What about me?
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, what about you?
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_04: I'm fine.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_04: I got nothing.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_04: I played played golf today, watched some football.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_04: Oh went grocery shopping, actually.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_04: No, I did it in the evening.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_04: I did it in the evening.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_04: So everything's good on my end.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_04: Um thank you for asking, Dan.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_04: I do I do forget to to tell everybody how I'm doing.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_04: Family's good, kids are good.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_04: Got to spend some lovely time with our uh our producer, Miss Janine, last night and and some family over at my mom's house for dinner.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_04: I'm never invited to anything.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_04: Had a lovely lovely marinated skirt steak in like a chimichuri recipe that I I gave to my mom to make.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_04: I have a recipe, and it was uh phenomenal.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_04: Janine made some lovely roasted potatoes.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_04: We had some salad, we had garlic, homemade garlic bread.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_04: Homemade garlic bread is like there's nothing better, bro.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_04: There's nothing better.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_04: What in those?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_04: And my mom made a a blueberry and peach pie with some vanilla ice cream.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_04: It was good.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_04: I had two large pieces of that pie.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_04: It was good.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_04: Very good.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_04: We had a lovely time.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_04: Lovely time.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_04: Um, Corey had a good uh good topic idea last week, and I think we've again, like a lot of stuff, we've touched on this over the over the years, but we want to devote an entire episode or an entire topic to it, and then we've kind of stretched it out a little bit.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_04: So tonight is going to be all about relocating in sobriety.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um, two of two of our wonderful TRP members have relocated to different states, and typically I mean by that a different state, but sometimes it can just be far end of a different state.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_04: But where you're in one recovery community and one foundation and support group, and you're just completely uprooted and going to another recovery-based area where you have to, you know, have a whole new foundation and a whole new support group.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_04: And we want to kind of intertwine that and and transition that into the the relocation, but also just the importance of maybe switching things up in our recovery, right?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_04: Going to different meetings, just doing different practices, um, how how the danger uh kind of along the topic of last week, the danger of how getting stagnant can be very um detrimental to us.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_04: So let's start off.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_04: Uh Dan, let's start off with you, if you don't mind.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_04: What was the the biggest challenge you faced?
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe not so much once you got back to Ohio from Florida, but like in preparation to move.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_04: What was like the biggest fear, the biggest challenge, the thing that you thought was going to be the hardest?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the uh the fear of the unknown, you know, because uh, you know, I I've gone places and all that jazz, but I was always getting high and I was always drinking, you know, the fear of the unknown where I'm so comfortable in my own skin and the place that I am.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: This is where I got sober, this is all I know sober, you know.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: I've done it nowhere else, and you know, that fear was like very great of like what am I going to do?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: And and really just um I remember I took a trip up there at one point and went to Akron and and you know, went out there for the you know, celebration of all that stuff.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: And um, that was kind of cool, and that was kind of like a a little uh precursor to that it's everywhere, and you know what I mean?
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's like you know it's everywhere, you know what I mean, but I never experienced that it's everywhere, right?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: And um never had to look everywhere, yeah, exactly.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you know, so like that was kind of like a little, like I didn't even know that's kind of like you know, just like hit me in the head when I was thinking about this topic, is that like that was kind of like a little precursor of like uh I know it's up there, you know what I mean?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: I know I'm going to be okay.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, the biggest fear was definitely the unknown.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I was very, you know, I mean, uh, I love you guys.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: I love I love the people that uh I was down there in Florida.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: It was not you know just friends, you guys are family, you know.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like I built this thing that you know that and got God willing, you know what I mean.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: All these things happened in my life, and you know, life got better, and and I got these relationships with people that I don't have in Ohio, you know.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: So what am I gonna do?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's gonna keep me okay?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and I remember you guys remember when I came up here, our good buddy Jan was up here, you know, and that was kind of like a little connect.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: The one and only.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: That was a kind of like a good little connect that gave me a little comfortability, no, knowing going up there and stuff like that.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, and he was kind of linked in a little bit where I was able to go to a couple places with him and all that jazz.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean, just like the life stuff didn't didn't really scare me at all.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think I talked about it last week.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the the the life stuff was kind of whatever.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: Home is where you make it, you know what I mean?
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh like uh I have three homes now, you know, Florida, Ohio, and Connecticut.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like a home is where you make it, man.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't I don't think there's one spot for that.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, you can always make money anywhere, like all that stuff is you know, universal throughout anywhere in the world.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, just you know, my sobriety is who I am.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: My sobriety is everything that I have in my life that that God gives to me, you know, and that has to come first, you know, and moving with all those life stressers and all those things, it's easy to forget that.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: But I always came back to the fact that if I put that first, everything's always gonna be alright.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we had pl plenty of weeks, plenty of months, especially moving, like I said, no job and stuff.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like we didn't have money, you know, we have food stamps, you know, I'm wicked, you know, getting formula for Maya, like all that stuff.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, like that and I never even to you know, I don't worry because it always just works out.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how, I don't have to ask why.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: You just Keep working and keep putting your feet to the ground.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, the unknown, the unknown in sobriety and recovery and the meetings and and having that mindset that, you know, you guys all know, you know, not even just Greg because it's moving, but you guys know because you know people that have moved is that you get a negative mindset of going to one meeting and it's not what you're used to.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: So this meeting and everything sucks up here, you know.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I can I'm never gonna find anything that's good and hopeful, or it's gonna help me up here, you know.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's just a selfish way of thinking that you know, like it has to be one way.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, the fear of fear of the unknown of what's gonna happen in recovery.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: That that was my biggest fear.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_04: Greg, what was your biggest challenge once you got back to and you can obviously describe a little bit of how you ended up back there, but what was the biggest challenge?
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_04: What was that like?
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think just uh getting on my feet and staying out of um, you know, uh just a negative mindset.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I mean, well, the the original move was from Florida to Delaware, right?
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and um and so some of what Dan was just talking about, yeah.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: You get uh you get into some of those groups and you're like, man, this just isn't the same, dude.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the same, it doesn't feel right, it doesn't feel like the same kind of community, you know, this meeting, that meeting, yada yada yada.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it it takes some time to realize like, dude, this is you it is a hundred percent what you make of it, right?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a hundred percent, you know, um yes, are are some meetings uh better than others, sure, you know, some groups better than others, sure.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, at the end of the day, I think it's our job to be the light, it's our job to um, you know, stick our hands out and help those people that are that are going through rougher times than us.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, I think that that is a surefire way to plug in in a new area, you know, because if you can come into a newer meeting and um and you know be around a bunch of people, like they're they're gonna be able to tell your your actions are gonna speak louder than your words 100%.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I think you know, as far as getting plugged in, but yeah, so I mean in in Delaware, you know, um I was up there, I was working working like a madman, and um I lost my job there, and that was right before Christmas in 2019.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, coming back to Ohio from there, it was like, dude, like what do I do here?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_04: Like so let me let me stop you real quick.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_04: So I know you went obviously from Florida to Delaware for work.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_04: Did you have any intention of eventually going back to Ohio, or did you have intention of staying in Delaware, coming back to Florida, or just wherever the wins really to come back to Florida, you know, um in the long run.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, the goal was is to help them get on their feet up there and then just kind of see where it takes me, you know.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but but Florida was always the move, and you know, when when that happens, you know, I just so happened to be uh I was planning on going home for the holidays anyways.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: So ended up going home to the for the holidays a little bit early, and um, and and then I just ended up staying.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know what, I I can do this.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: And that was that was the thing, is there wasn't the fear of you know, because at that point I'm I'm um you know, closing in on my fourth year of sobriety, and you know, I just didn't there there wasn't ever the fear of like, oh god, I'm back in Ohio, like what am I gonna do?
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: Your old stomping grounds.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, none of that, none of that at all.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um it was more so like the thought of like, okay, well, how am I gonna rebuild myself yet again?
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it it almost felt it almost felt a little bit like a gut punch, you know.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, for those any of those of us who have lost a job before, it you know, you get that you get that feeling, man.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_04: And in the and in the manner that you did, like it was just like it kind of yeah, yeah.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't it wasn't like, you know, and I'll own up and be accountable to myself and hold myself to that standard of certainly there were things I could have done better, but I uh I do feel like yeah, I I won't get into all that, but you know, um keeping it on my end, uh, you know, it was kidding, I'm just kidding.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: I know that it was at the end of the day, it was for the best because um I was I was working really hard and and because I was working really hard, I think I was starting to lose my edge a little bit and starting to um you know the spark.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: The spark, yeah, the spark, the edge, whatever you want to call it, man.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: I was I was not as sharp as as I uh once was, and I and I think that um maybe I I wasn't being as as useful to my fellow humans as I could be.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_04: So I think that's my like and I I don't I can get into mine too.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um not that I've relocated, but my thoughts on it.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_04: But my biggest it's not so much relocating, it's I don't want to go back to my old stomping grounds, and not not for fear of oh my god, it's gonna trigger me or I'm gonna relapse.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I can't stand it down there.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_04: Every time I go down there, I'm just like, man, this is not for me.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_04: And my mom still lives down there, and like where she lives is a little different, although I I did some damage in that specific area too.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_04: But like, whenever I really go back through some of the really bad years when I was living in the in the trailer park, and just some of those, some of those those stories when I when I tell my story, like it just is like, God, it's it's it's disgusting to me.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_04: And and not nothing against those areas really, but there's just something inside of me that just I don't want to be there.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_04: So um, Corey, do you think you'd even survive if you had to relocate, or would you be drunk within a week?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_04: We'll find out soon when he moves.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're gonna find out.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_04: He's been threatening it for a few years now.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_03: So I yeah, yeah, that's well, that's why I propose this topic, obviously.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_04: Guys, he ain't really going anywhere.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_04: Let's be honest.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_04: He's not going anywhere.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_03: By the land, I'll build the house.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: The more the more people say that, Sean, the more I just get fired up to do it.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: You're not going anywhere.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_03: Me and Greg will make it happen if you come to Ohio.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_03: I well, I won't pro I would really like to go to Pennsylvania.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm with you, Sean.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I'd appreciate a little bit more faith in my capabilities.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: But what I'm re-innoticing is Sean, it's just one of my most important support people in my life.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_03: But what I'm saying I'm just kidding.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um look at him give it trimming.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: You hear him, dude?
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, you're Mark Yurick will put you right up on the farm in PA.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: And give you a job too.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm with you, Sean.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like there, there's been like about this much, very little, like toying around with the idea of South Jersey.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: And anytime I think about it, it's like I I don't want to do it.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like, it's not even like it's really not even fear of fear of the area.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like, I don't know, I don't have all that great of memories connected with the area.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_03: I'm with you.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I just so it's like it almost feels better to go start something new.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like just a new adventure rather than you know, whatever.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_04: Anyway, but um the only thing I would say about that, Corey, and I think you're in the same boat, is like I have family down there.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_04: I know you have family in South Jersey.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_04: That's like the only thing, but not enough of a reason for me to really actually want to do it.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: I'd rather move close to where it's it's possible to see them, but right, you know.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's just not my deal.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I proposed the topic because um yeah, so like I'm interested in hopefully getting back north one day just because I feel like that's he's taking notes kind of in my blood.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, I'm taking notes a little bit, but yeah, like I think we all know, we all know plenty of people probably that came down to Florida for rehab, may have stuck around for a few months, and you know, hurried up on back home because I got priorities back there.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_03: I gotta go do my shit.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and often it's putting the cart before the horse, in my opinion, where it's like, no, no, no, listen, not saying geographical changes will keep you sober, but if you stay here and you build a firm foundation in sobriety, then God will open up all the possibilities in the world to you.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_03: You can go where any free man may go, but what if you were to get a solid foundation first?
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I've pitched that to set you know several people, I'm sure we all have, and they rarely listen, and then they they go on back home, and it's kind of like it's just so easy to slip back into the old bullshit.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_04: And if they're lucky, we see them again six months or a year later, right?
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_04: Another crack at recovery, if they're lucky.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_03: So it's the it's a unique situation that we're in here on this podcast where we got two people that didn't hurry up on back home that that did a solid foundation, and then like honestly, with both of you, I think, in in my opinion, it kind of got laid out before you um you know the the avenue that you that you took where you ended up geographically.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: And lastly, real quick, I'm I'm sitting here like reliving both of you leaving me and realizing, Greg, that you left me for a fucking job.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: And at least Dan had like a woman, yeah, and a baby.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like there was like yeah, there was like it.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, I'm just gonna leave Corey over some fucking money.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Wasn't even that good.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: He's a dirty jab.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_03: I said near like I'm saying when you said you were planning on coming back to Florida, I'm thinking, like, I don't even think I knew that.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_03: That motherfucker.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well, Corey's the goal.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_04: You you bring up a good point though, Corey, because like so like you said, those people that are you know a few months sober, it's usually because oh, I have I have kids and I have to get back, and there's a wife or a or a baby mom, and like they don't really want you back right now, dude.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_04: Like they want you it's been two and a half months, they're just now like having the freedom of you not ruining their lives.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_04: Not that they don't miss you and love you and want like the better self eventually, but they probably don't want you back so quick.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_04: You don't need that job, and and like you said, for Greg and and Dan, it was like the path was let's let's call it what it is, the higher power, God laid out that path before them.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there were some decisions you guys had to make, obviously, but that's really the true essence of it.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_04: Like you built your foundation, you spent multiple years here in recovery, you're doing everything you were needing to do, and then life circumstances there were came up, and it was like, hey, it's time to relocate.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_04: I I tell Catherine all the time, like if it ever, like if you ever really, really wanted to have a serious conversation about moving back to Pennsylvania or Maryland, like I would have it with you.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not saying I'd like it.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_04: I at this moment.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_04: No, I don't want to.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_04: At this moment in time, like I have absolutely zero desire to leave.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_04: I love our little town here in Stewart, Florida, Martin County.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_04: But I I've let her know that many times, like I will have that kind of like God forbid, you know, God forbid her mom like needed us for whatever reason, or family, or just um, and she we go up there enough and she she has a good time seeing all old friends, but she's said multiple times, like there's nothing kind of like what we said, Corey, like there's nothing, there's nothing calling her back there, which you know, thank God for me.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_04: But um, but the other like if and right now it's not, you know, God has us right where he wants us, but if God did ever call us somewhere else, like I would hope, like you guys have done, to meet that valently and and courageously, even though there might be some fear involved, and kind of take it like an adventure, you know, and a new experience, like a new opportunity, um, rather than whatever.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: But I would say I would say one thing I want to piggyback on is that like when you were saying that you know the family and everybody wants you to get well and all that stuff like that.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean, I've dealt with this with guys and stuff like that, and it was my personal story too, is that it's not the case for people that don't understand, you know what I mean?
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like I got divorced, and you know what I mean, and me not coming home was an action of being a shitty father, right?
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so like that's like it's a double-edged sword with that too.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: When you talk, you know, because I've I've double people in the same situation and stuff like that.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's like uh God bless, shout out to Alexandria.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: She gave me the statement that Corey just said.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I raised my hand my my 30th day in uh uh inpatient man, and I was gonna do 30 days and go home.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I asked her all the question questions and all that stuff, and and she said, you know, why don't you stick around a while?
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, right you spent 31 years ruining your life.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't you you know spend a couple more months down here and see what happens?
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna I was gonna say, dude, I like I I mean to kind of echo what you just said, I know that there's a lot of baby mamas and and and I guess baby daddies too that are like no, get your fucking ass back home.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: You have a responsibility.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: And it's like it's hard, man.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's hard because like not wrong.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and like and honestly, wanting to be back home with like your kids to be a parent and stuff is a good desire to have, but it's like sometimes it's just it.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know it well.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes you just gotta sacrifice a little bit of time so you can have all the time in the world and to be able to do it.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta play the long game with it.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: I said I say it, I say it with such gusto now, man.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: And people like it's uh I say it with such gusto now, man.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, what you know, stuff that's happening in my life now.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I tell her the same thing.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: I say, listen, everything's fine.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: You need to take care of you, you do what you need to do for you right now.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: Everything's gonna be fine, you know.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: You just have to worry about you, and it'll all work out.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I say it like, but I you know, but doing that 30 days, and I want to come out and I gotta get back.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: I because I'm so special, I need to fix everything, you know what I mean?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like that mentality, but yeah, I say it with such gusto now is that like one year, two years, you want to know what your child's gonna live to be like 80 years old, you know what I mean?
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you how about you get the next 30 years with them and you spend a couple years fixing yourself?
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_04: Sacrifice this first year for the next 29, yeah.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: It really is like it's so clear to me on that now.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think that's the importance though of like one of those things, too, where I mean it sounds so cliche and tacky, but it's the truth.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's a reason why like I recover out loud in those in those instances, right?
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because when I came back home, thankfully, like I already had that foundation that we sit here and talk about, and so anybody that I knew that was even uh somewhat remotely interested in having me back in their lives uh after all those years was you know one of the first things.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, so you're still doing that sobriety thing, like awesome, man.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Go go ahead, go get it, you know.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so it was never like um you know an awkward situation or awkward thing.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: Now, granted, again, we're talking about three plus years into the deal doing the work right and everything like that, like not six months later, where you know, it could be very easy, like could be hey, you know, Corey, Dan, Sean, great to meet you.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: Love you guys.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'll I'll be in touch and jet off back to Ohio, and then very quickly, up I'm gonna I'm gonna get wrapped up back in work and back in a girl, and then next thing you know, like I'm falling flat on my face all over again.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: But I think the importance of putting it out there, you know, and and again, we've talked about this before.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the first thing that I share with my new boss or my new co-workers or anything like that.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: But when it comes up in conversation, like, yeah, man, I'm I'm sober, I've been sober about a decade, and um, you know, and this is that's what I do, you know, and and most of the time in conversation we just move on to the next thing, you know.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: But but there are those off chances that somebody's interested in hearing that and hearing about what it is and everything like that.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: So um I've and I've been blessed with a lot of those situations, both both from new people that I've met and people that knew me from before, you know, and uh people's parents who uh you know, friends of mine from before how their parents call me up and like, hey, is there anything you can you know help or point in the right direction or whatever?
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, that's that's a huge honor for me, man.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's so cool, man.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's like the coolest thing ever.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_04: Super so that brings us kind of segueing into the next thing, like the importance or the um hesitation, I guess, to change up routines in recovery, go to different meetings, try new things.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_04: Heck, some of us have even tried different fellowships.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um, we talk about it on a on a much on a much more micro level.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_04: We've talked about it with like changing up meditative practices, right?
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_04: Not doing if like meditation gets stagnant, like trying a different one, try you know, guided or religious ones or white noise or raindrops and instead of the ones we've been doing.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_04: Why is it so important, Corey?
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_04: I'll kick this over to you first.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_04: Why is it so important to shake up that routine?
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_04: What are the benefits of that that you can see?
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I I mean, I think you kind of already said it.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_03: It just you know it's just so easy to get stagnant when it's the same thing week after week after week after week, and it's like recovery is very repetitive because it you're you're supposed to get consistent, and it needs to be, right?
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: But and it needs to be, so you have to like find you have to find like ways to stay excited about it, I guess, right?
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: And like stuff right about it.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_04: Stuff it with fresh new feeling.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm fucking terrible.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_04: I am awful at this shit.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_04: I was gonna make a joke that like when you get stagnant and you get the same stuff, you just sit in your same meeting week after week and just judge people and make snide comments about everyone, don't we, Corey?
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: And I will say, like, yes, and um, but I went to you know, I went to a different meeting this week that I typically judge the absolute shit out of.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't plan on stopping that, but and you had a wonderful time.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: I had a good time at that meeting.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: It was a good meeting.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_03: Something must have been in the water, but um it was good and I enjoyed myself.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um so yeah, I mean it is things like that, and like, you know, and like I don't know, I can get very isolated too when I'm when I'm not switching things up when I am going only to that one meeting a week that I'm so familiar with, and not seeing certain friends, and like I don't know, dude.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_03: It's easier to like to not like people when you don't see them very often, which is why like Greg pisses me off, dude.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_03: Bad but good.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, that's what about you?
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_04: The the importance, uh experience, the importance of or your personal experience with having to change things up.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: I just I I got a little bit of that feeling because I was having this kind of exact same conversation earlier today with a gentleman that we all know, he probably will listen to this podcast.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um and uh and we've known each other a long time, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a new experience for yourself.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: So whether that be um meetings, different different groups, different areas, different mentor, whatever the case may be.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um we talked at length about um what the years of like 2016 and for you guys, like a little bit before that, but for me, for 2016 to 2018 were man, like those and the the the years were phenomenal for me.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: My my early recovery years, the group of people that we had down there was at like second to none.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: Still some of the best friends I have in this world today, but um you can get hung up on that, you know, and it's like if if I'm going other places and trying to replicate that same thing, or going back to those same exact places and trying to replicate the same experience, I'm I have in essence then I have tunnel vision on that, and I'm missing everything else around me, you know, or that I could be uh reaching out for.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: So and I think that that's that's the thing is like life is about the experience, it's about the journey, you know.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: So like don't get so hung up on one thing or thinking you've got you you know it all and you've got it so figured out that you can't then you completely close yourself off to the beauty of the world around you and all of the amazing experiences that can come along with it, you know.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Dan.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, uh moving here, you know, that's where like uh like Greg was saying, you know, however long I was down there, I can't.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm awful with timelines.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember so long ago.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: I have no idea what the timeline was, how long I was down there.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was a year and a half or something like that.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_04: Dan, it's 2001 right now.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Y2K we made it through Y2K.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: Y2K was just nothing.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_04: Not even not even a blip.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_04: God, remember all that shit.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, I was like, I was legit like, is what's gonna happen, man?
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was all in.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is my pager gonna blow up?
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: Chris Jericho's gonna show up.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's what's gonna happen.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_03: Oh hell yeah.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_03: Let's still shit in my pants.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_04: 100% you were 13, right, Cory?
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just kidding.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's well.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um but uh yeah, I mean, coming here, I mean, that's uh you know, down to Florida, you know, as a you know, the first early on, you know, on fire, right?
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know, five home groups, you know, 87 commitments all over the place, you know, Nissan Pathfinder, 7,000 miles on it from driving all over the joint, seven people in it getting getting pulled over by Martin County.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, but uh moving here, you know, I I really that's it, you know, I love I still do it to this day, man.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: I I I I bounce around, man.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: I bounce around because uh One of the coolest things, I mean, you guys know how I open, you know, I've never met a stranger in my life.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'll talk to everybody.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so like at the end of the meeting, I I I always make myself available, like stand there and make sure I'm like available.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because there's always people looking around, you know what I mean?
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: That like want that you can tell they want to talk to somebody, you know, and I I always invoke those conversations.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: And and I've had such great, amazing experiences, and I keep doing that.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: I have places that I will go, you know, like on a on a routine basis and getting that little slide, but I really do.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: I I I mix it up now, you know, and uh I really you know I find uh I find a lot in that, you know, it may be for other people, but definitely for me, you know, in my recovery, it helps a lot to get you know different perspectives, new people, you know, 37 years, you know, three days, you know, like all the all this different stuff.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_01: And these people that I've met, you know, like me and Greg, Greg have talked about before, it doesn't really extend outside the meeting like it was down in Florida.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: But that's something that we have adapted to.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not the same, and that's okay, you know.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: But um, I I really have found that like bouncing around at different places and even different fellowships, you know what I mean, just to just to mix it up, man.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because you know, every experience can be a good experience if you want it to be.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it really can, you know, and sometimes you walk in and people are off the chains and you walk out, you know.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's like you get you get all double-edged swords of it, but like I really I don't know.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's like moving here was a blessing that you know God put before me.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: And and getting that experience and not being in that, you know, I felt safe.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: And now I feel safe no matter what, you know, when I had that like that bubble in Florida and I felt safe.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: And like I just said, my nervousness was the fear of how am I gonna continue what I'm doing in sobriety and all these things to be the person I am, and um now I feel safe wherever I go, right?
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, a pop, pop, pop a meeting in Vegas, right, Sean?
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_04: Different whole different whole different demographic core, you would have loved this meeting.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_04: Whole different demographic.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_04: It was wild.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_03: Insane.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_03: Amazing.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't invited to that one either.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_03: So real quick, dude, I I want to mention though, like, you know, to be honest though, guys, like it's not it's not really the same around here either.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like it's still good, it's still very like and Sean Sean and I have a good group on Tuesdays, and which is probably the closest you can come to what we had on Mondays years ago.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: But even the landscape here has changed.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_03: So like I I go back to a a line in our in our literature a lot where it says, Never could we recapture the great moments of the past.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_03: And like it always reminds me to you know cherish the memories, but don't don't try to relive, right?
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's not gonna happen.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_03: Everything's a new experience.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_03: So it's it's just like that just you know it made me think about that when you were talking about like adapting to what it is up there and stuff.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_04: I wanna I wanna tactfully push back on that a little bit.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_04: And I and Corey, I know you you and I have had this conversation.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_04: You and I have had this conversation.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_04: I think we've had it on the podcast.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_04: I do agree.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_04: We cannot recapture and re-like it's not it's never going to be the same as those whatever golden years you guys talk about, 16 to 18.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_04: And I think my experience my perspective is a little different on it because I've I was sober before it.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_04: I I have in my opinion, I have an equally never never quite the same as you, Jamokes.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_04: Never can be, but I have an equally like passionate, involved, fun, like friend group, so to speak, support network in recovery.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_04: Have has the landscape of some of the meetings changed?
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, but I I have kind of three, and I've talked about this.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_04: I have both before you guys, I have those friends, I have you guys, which were some great, phenomenal years.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_04: I I 100% agree.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_04: And then I have kind of the ones now, which Corey, you're you're still in you're in the ones now as well.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_04: So, but I don't know.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_04: And I I I guess my point with that is like it, and this is not a promise, I promise, in all seriousness, not like a shot at at any of you guys for this, but it is what you make of it.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_04: Like you can find that.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_04: Now, maybe life circumstances, you know, like don't lend to that as much.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I I I I do think it's easier for me because I'm still in this area, you know.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't know, maybe, maybe that's not correct, but that's the way I experience it.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_04: But like I've gone out and like that Tuesday night group, Corey.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I'm I'm one of the founding members of it.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_04: So maybe that was part of it.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_04: Like, we went out and we found that fellowship again.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_04: We created that fellowship again, and it's phenomenal.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_04: Never quite the same, I agree, but it is out there to go find it again.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like it is.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_03: Well, Greg and Dan, just so you know, you're still top tier in my eyes.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_04: I tried to do that tactically.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_04: I would love to have the old Monday night 830 crew back.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_04: I promise.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_04: I promise that.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_04: Those were some phenomenal years.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_04: I agree.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of if we had another hour, we could we could talk about it in depth, but there's a lot of changes that I'm referring to, though.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_03: And it's and it none of them are bad.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_04: Well, it's just and I agree, they there are that have changed.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_04: I don't I don't disagree that it's changed, yeah, and it's not the same, but it's it to me, there's like some there's an equal amount of passion, fun, all that stuff that we have, you know.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think because I mean me and Corey, I I think me and Greg too, like we've talked about how it's different down there now, you know what I mean?
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's not it's just not the same as it was before, you know.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: But I think it's uh I I think like Sean's a hundred percent right in the fact that you you know you can make that stuff, but the volume of it is not there anymore.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so there was a more volume of it where like you really honestly felt safe no matter which one you went to, man.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: I felt safe and open to talk to people and stuff like that, you know, where like coming here, you know, I walk in and people don't know me, no one looks at me twice and I walk back out the door.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I see what you mean.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I get what you're saying.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: It was safe, you know what I mean?
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's like total safe to be newly sober and open up and da-da-da stuff, like where you know, Monday night we we were that that would our purpose.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know what I mean?
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_01: Go up to these new people and and make sure, and it's like you know, like I say, like coming here and stuff, people didn't know me, no one even looks at me twice, and then uh you walk back out the door.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was just more of a volume safe thing.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I mean you're 100% right.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: You can you can create that, you know, like you can't.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_04: Well, and I and I also think I also think we're we're all older, like we're not in our 20s or early 30s anymore.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_04: And maybe, well, you know what I mean, but like maybe there is a contingent of 20-something year olds in this area that have that same kind of connection and feeling that we had back then, you know what I mean?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's true.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_03: I think yes, I think that there's always like pockets of people getting sober around the same amount of things.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_03: This is the great this is the best it's ever been kind of idea, yeah.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_03: And the magic's still like the magic for them, right?
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_04: Right, like they just do it on Snapchat.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_04: Well, like my pickleball, I my pickleball crew Thursday, mostly guys in recovery.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_04: We have a blast, dude.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_04: Like we have so much fun doing that stuff, you know?
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Sean, I I I have a last question for them, but to to cap it off, but I didn't know if you had any more.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_03: Nope, I'm done.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: I'm good.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_03: So guys, if real quick in a few words, if I'm gay.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_03: I knew it! On a scale of one to ten, how gay are you?
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um no, if if you had a friend that had, you know, a little over a decade sober, a family of four, was slightly grumpy in most respects, that wanted to move his family uh relatively close to where he's from, but not quite where he's from, but have a new adventure and stuff, what advice would you give that friend as far as recovery is concerned?
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, fucking yeah.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_03: I guess if you don't want to give me advice, if you don't want to help me out, what advice would you give to somebody that's relocating in recovery?
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_03: Greg, you want to go first or do you want to go?
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: Don't don't let um one or two or six or seven uh bad meetings deter you from going just going for it and and trying to again not replicate but make way for a new experience.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: Great advice.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: Sage advice from the ginger.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: Don't uh don't leave a meeting just because they say spox in 18 times.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: Raise your hand to brew the damn coffee.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's gonna be a hard one, Dan.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh dude, I'll tell you one thing, man.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's like one of the first, there's like they have this kind of like clubhouse, I think it's I forgot what it's called.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's a clubhouse that they meet every single morning, and there's multiple meetings, you know what I mean, throughout the day and stuff like that.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's like we had in Florida.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: And um, um, and they they bring in the the the the rehab bands and all that stuff, and and that was like one of my first places that I went multiple times and stuff off the chains.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like right the stuff that was it was like insanity, you know what I mean?
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: But it was those those new people, you know what I mean, just getting sober and stuff like that, and that kind of you know what I mean.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: That that's one thing that I would say that like helped me, I would seek out, is find those meetings that where they're busting in the people and they're bringing in people that are all newly sober.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: Go find people to help, yep.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: That was that was my my big thing.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: Because I was like, I went to a couple where it was like six old dudes, you know what I mean?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: That I walked in with me being mean, we all know who I am, and there's they looked at me and I was like, Oh, okay.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_04: They they looked at you and they were like, Nope.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I had like lime green socks.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_04: Don't look at them, don't look at them, don't look at them, don't make eye contact.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, no, that I mean that that'd be my view, dude.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's actually kind of cool too here.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, I just noticed around here, like right next to Cheryl Williams, they should open up uh like a hope center that's a rehab center, Iops and stuff like that, and then there's another one that down the street, these places are starting to pop up around here and stuff like that.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: And it's pretty, I don't know, this stuff's pretty cool to me, you know.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: They were never none of that stuff was ever here before.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: You're trying to open up a treatment center with your friends on the pod here.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, if if I win the lotto, I'm gonna recreate Florida and I'm opening up TCR, bro.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: Check, go ahead and do yourself a favor.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: Go to you know, like a midday Saturday meeting in the hood.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: That is that's a good one, dude.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good one.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: I've done both.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: I went to the you know, the hood hood, and then I went to the white hood, you know, the west side on the hilltop.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh dude, off off the chains.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, so much fun.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just I had a great time.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, amazing.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, good stuff, guys.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_04: That was uh I think that was really good.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_04: That was a good talk.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um we got five five and a half minutes.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, Corey.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_04: I got nothing to do with it.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_04: You know what?
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_04: Hold on, I'll go first.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_04: Corey, I want to say this.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_04: I want to say this.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_04: Looking at Jalen Hurts today, I wished he was on my team.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, 100% after watching the Ravens completely shit to bed and just have no like Jalen Hurts, maybe not always, but more often than not, he makes the big play, whether it's with his legs or throwing.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_04: He made some great throws today.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_04: He makes the big play.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_04: Now, it doesn't hurt that he has an A receiver and the Ravens the Ravens maybe don't, but regardless, but the Ravens defense stunk too, like but hats off to you guys, man.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_04: I wished I had Jalen Hurts today over Lamar Jackson.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm not even I'm not gonna go off about it actually, but but I we talked about it a little bit before actually even you got on, Sean, before we started recording.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, dude, I I know he's not the best like quarterback stats-wise and stuff and and throwing and everything, but like I I really would not trade him for fucking Josh Allen.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_03: Nope.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_03: Because we've been to two Super Bowls, dude.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_03: I yeah, no, yeah, I guess.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_03: You just said it, like he he wins, you know, he wins.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just the system too, man.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, Josh Allen got input into the Eagles, it'd be a totally different they're not the Eagles anymore.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's like totally he fits the Eagles perfectly.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like Tom Brady, he dude, he was not like statistics-wise and stuff like that in the beginning, he was not the best at all.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: Got Randy Moss and he like went off the charts and stuff, but the system fit him and he fit the team so well.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's what hurts in the Eagles.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_01: It really, it's like perfect.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, yeah.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_03: Devontae Smith is just clutch.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of the day, a win is a win.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: He's so small, man.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's wild.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_04: At the end of the day, a win is a win.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, doesn't matter how ugly it looks.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: In the NFL, man, especially.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, anything could happen.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Saquon got a little banged up, though.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: That was scary.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Lamar's always.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people got banged up today, dude.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_04: Caleb Williams went down with a nasty little 59 points to three points, bro.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_04: No, but yeah, that week that was an ugly rain game for both.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, but still three points.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_04: That's wild.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Jaden Daniels went down, dude.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_04: I um that was that was nasty looking, dude.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_04: I'm just it's he's just not a big dude.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like is it was that his throwing arm too, or no?
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_04: He's tough, but he's just not built, like he's just not big enough.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know, as soon as Peyton and I saw that on on TV, I I because I hated even like making a joke about it because that was a nasty looking injury.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: But like, yeah, I'm like Peyton, that's why that's why we train arms.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we go to the gym and train arms, bro.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_00: So that if you do got to catch your own body weight, you can do it, you know.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_04: Don't look now.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_04: Cleveland Browns won a game.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, beat the Baker, the C Baker.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: And this is the thing, dude.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I've known that's the best.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_04: The Bucks might stink too, by the way.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_00: The the Bucks do kind of the they they they just can't get it figured out.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's their problem.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um, here's the deal with Baker Mayfield, and I got love for Baker Mayfield.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_00: I do.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_00: I've watched him his whole NFL career.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_00: That dude gets too emotional, and when he gets too emotional, he dude, he it like it, he makes a lot of mistakes when he's overly emotional.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_00: So you know, and that that game, that game was weird though, man.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, stop play on uh at the two-minute warning in the fourth quarter for like a win is a win.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hey, yeah, whatever.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_04: We uh we were recording last Sunday during uh the Giants game, but Dan, they guys again, not not gonna overreact after week one too much, maybe a little bit, but they looked they had some fucking I'm full on.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_04: They had some fire in them, dog.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's the only thing I'll say about them.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because I really like the way Jackson Dart plays.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: I like it.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's sustainable.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: He might have too much emotional.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_04: He's gotta calm down a little bit.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_04: He might have too much emotion, too.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think that's what that's where Harbor is gonna, he's gonna coach him good, man.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's where he's gonna show he's gonna.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_01: You saw it on Sunday night because he would have ran a lot more, man.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_01: He ran that one time with the lead head.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta hope so.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_00: And and there's nothing wrong with like we we live arguably nowadays, you know, back when Mike Vick was doing it, everybody's like, oh my god, what is this dude doing?
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_00: But like nowadays we live in an age of mobile quarterbacks, but yeah, it's not sustainable long term.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you gotta be and you gotta be past first, you know what I mean?
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's where the last year he was looking to run first.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_01: Where I think I'm hoping that Harborough can have that uh knock that sense into him.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: Your boy Scattaboo is an absolute maniac.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's he's he's the white LT.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_01: He's on cocaine, he's the white LT.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: He really is that's a great, that's a great way to put it, yeah.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 100%.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: If you see him pulling up to the stadium, they had him like live on TikTok in his big truck with all his boys.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty sure he's gonna be the first guy ever where CTE like works out in his benefit.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gonna make him more normal.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's got ankle-long jean shorts on walking out barefoot from the stadium.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: Looking like Fred Durst coming up there.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, I love it, man.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: So, what do you got?
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: Are you guys are we all rooting for Danny's Giants tomorrow night or what?
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_04: You bet who are they playing?
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_04: The Rams?
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they got taken the Rams down, their Super Bowl favorite.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_04: I know.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_04: I like I kind of like the Rams, but I will.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_04: I'll go for the Giants.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_04: I will.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_04: I just gotta win.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_04: Not for you though, Dan, for my dad.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_04: My dad's a Giants fan.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_04: All right, I'm okay, but it doesn't matter how.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_04: And and lastly, because we're we're out of time, but I do have to say it's completely switching gears from football for a second.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_04: Is uh uh we locked up Braves locked up the division today, so screw you, Corey.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_04: We locked up the division.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_04: That's all I really wanted.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, when the Yankees go out, I'm a Braves fan, by the way.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's my my secondary NL.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'll be on it.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_03: To sum up this episode, you told me I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be able to achieve my dreams of moving.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_03: You called me gay, then you just insulted the Phillies.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_04: Wait, did I call you gay?
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_03: I thought then he told Dan and Greg that they're second-tier friends.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_03: It was fucking wild.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_03: What are you on, dude?
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_03: It was tactfully.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, just creating content over here, just creating content.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_04: Um as always, boys, a pleasure having you on tonight.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_04: A pleasure having this discussion.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_04: Well, let's uh let's hope the Chiefs go down tonight and let's go Giants tomorrow.
• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_04: Good night, God bless, trudge the road of happy destiny.
• 1:01:58
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• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_04: We'll see you next week.