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Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street with Daniel White · The Art of Costume Podcast

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  Why did you put a giant picture of me?
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  Pies here? Because I thought the meat pies.
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  Look so good. I just feel hungry.
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  Whenever I watch the scene. Is that wrong?
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  Hey, yeah. When you visit soon I'm going to
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  have some meat pies made and I won't tell you what's in them.
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  Okay, I should be Bird by that. Hello and welcome to the art of
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  costumes. Lawcast.
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  I'm Elizabeth Joy glass and I'm Spencer Joel Williams.
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  Hello. Hello.
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  Spencer. Joe Williams.
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  I got jealous of using your middle name.
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  I'm using mine today too. I like it.
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  I like it. We both have J middle names.
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  I know. I just realized I wasn't that
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  crazy. This is crazy.
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  Surprise. How was your week?
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  Elizabeth, it was fine. It's filled with work and trying
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  to decide what to do for Halloween.
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  So, I know Halloween's. Coming up upside, I'm already
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  starting to decorate the house, you know?
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  It's funny. Usually, every year I'm always
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  complaining. I'm like, I can't believe target
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  has their Halloween decorations out in September and I'm going
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  to Target. I'm like, where are the
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  Halloween decorations? I'm getting annoyed.
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  I need them now. Hey, you know, we can either
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  have it way too early or not, at all.
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  I guess I want it now. I want my Halloween decorations.
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  Now, what do you want, Spencer? What do you want?
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  Although, it does it does annoy me when in, like the beginning
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  of November and like, late October.
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  I see Christmas. I'm like, no, not yet.
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  Yeah, well, Christmas is not as fun as Halloween Halloween is
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  our Christmas, you know? I mean, okay, just kidding.
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  You love them equally. Okay.
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  Hey, like children, you can't choose just one.
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  Oh, I could easily pick my favorite child.
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  It's Halloween Halloween's, going to college like Christmas.
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  I don't know. You're going to have to deal
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  with the heavy Downs. Your brother is racking up a law
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  student debt. So you might have to find a
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  different room. Oh, good to know, speaking of
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  Halloween. Elizabeth, what are we watching
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  this week? Spencer, today we are watching.
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  Tim Burton's Sweeney Todd, The Demon Barber of Fleet Street.
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  I'm so excited. This was A movie.
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  This is one of the greatest movies of all time, ma'am?
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  Okay. This was a very good movie.
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  It just like, I like it was not what I was expecting.
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  Hey, not nearly as bloody as I thought it was gonna be.
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  I thought it was gonna be way gory, ER, was there not enough
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  blood for you. Ma'am watching, like, 200
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  people. It's a meat.
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  It was a fine amount of blood. I just like I was expecting
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  more. I wasn't expecting it to be.
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  So like, Cartoony with like the bright red like gushing streams
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  of blood everywhere. Yeah, that's Tim Burton for you.
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  He loves some campy blood true that also, I forgot it was a
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  musical, okay, I mean, as soon as it started, I was like, oh
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  yeah, it's a musical. And I don't know it was a very,
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  it was a very quick movie which I don't know.
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  I thought it was longer. Well, first impressions.
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  Russians with Elizabeth Joy, glass.
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  I can't believe you've never seen this movie.
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  I love this movie. I think it's brilliant.
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  I think it's just one of Tim Burton's best.
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  It's so classic Timber and but also, it's a great story.
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  It's a beautiful Broadway, play, it pulls in Victorian Penny.
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  Dreadfuls, you know, the Sweeney Todd characters actually based
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  off of a Penny Dreadful from the 1800s.
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  I'm very excited. This is actually a audience
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  requests to lots of people told us.
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  They wanted us to do. Sweeney Todd, and that's also
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  the request of someone very special to us very special.
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  The myth, the legend allured, by the way, which Lords are very
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  respected on this show as we can.
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  All remember, just this Lord, our brilli audio engineer,
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  Daniel. White is in the house today.
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  Hey, what's up? Hello, Daniel.
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  How's it going? Hello, Elizabeth I'm ashamed.
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  And that you didn't like this movie more.
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  I'm sorry. I have to watch it again.
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  I think I was distracted and just like trying to figure out
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  like what was happening and I think I need to watch it again.
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  You're either into musicals, are you're not know, I'm surprised
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  that Elizabeth isn't as into this musical, but Daniel on the
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  other hand, who I never think of, as a musical person wasn't
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  to Sweeney Todd and I'm not into musicals, actually, oh well,
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  yeah, I think there's only Like one other musical which I don't
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  remember. The name is that.
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  Mama Mia, no vanilla's member so good.
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  It was like over theatrical. It has my favorite era,
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  Victorian era. I love all the dark themes of
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  it. It's so gory and bloody.
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  Yes, I totally agree, Victorian. I forgot we've been doing so
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  much Regency lately with bridger-teton and Emma.
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  I totally forgot how much I used to be into Victorian, like the
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  Victorian era with Penny, Dreadful, with Ava Green.
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  That's one of my favorite shows and now we're doing this.
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  So, I'm so excited. So, Daniel before we get into
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  the show, we want to do a quick little interview.
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  Sure first, what is it? Like being an audio engineer for
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  the art of costume broadcast? Is it fun?
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  Is it hard? Well, it's a lot of work because
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  we don't shut up ever. No, no, no.
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  It's just a lot of people don't understand or see what goes into
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  audio right now. I'm making I'm actually working
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  on like some little example, videos on my, on my Instagram,
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  showing just like some of the behind-the-scenes stuff, those
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  are really cool and I think I might use some of the podcast
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  stuff, a little more, just showing like, how much Dead
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  Space gets cut out how much, you know, phrases and things are
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  spliced together and like befores and afters.
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  So it is Is a lot of work if you're like really putting
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  effort into it but it makes a big difference so it's worth it.
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  Where can people find your work on Instagram?
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  Perhaps? Yeah.
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  All my stuff is on Instagram at Dan White creative.
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  But basically, we're gonna put that in the Instagram stories.
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  Which one of us is harder to edit.
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  Wow. Why are you trying to fix?
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  Pick fights over here? You're really putting him on the
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  spot. Spencer, I'm so sorry.
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  Daniel. This is not how we usually treat
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  our guests. I'm asking all of hard-hitting.
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  Questions. I want to see what's me since I
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  have lawn mowers in the background and you know,
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  attacking neighbors. It's a little of both, how about
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  that? But to be fair, l.a. is like,
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  it's a constant noise of traffic in the background so you can't
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  really avoid that. Yeah, well we do have a special
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  surprise for you Daniel this week, we are honoring you with
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  the great privilege to only one other person.
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  None has ever done on this show. You get to read this week
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  summary of Sweeney Todd. Wow.
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  Yeah. Spencer real honor.
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  So I'm gonna sit back and listen as Daniel reads the submarine if
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  your tea. All right I'm gonna edit
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  probably like three takes or something so go for it.
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  So on today's episode summary evil Judge Turpin lusts for the
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  beautiful wife of London Barb, I'm horribly reading.
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  That's okay. It's a hard job Daniel that's
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  why? Yeah I usually do it because we
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  leave the more difficult task for me.
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  You know oh excuse me, get excuse me.
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  Spencer I see I see evil Judge Turpin lusts for a beautiful
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  wife of a London, Barber and wrongfully imprisoned him in
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  Australia. Is that?
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  Where he ended up getting imprisoned?
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  I did not know that he imprisons him for a crime.
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  He did not commit returning after 15 years and calling
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  himself. Sweeney Todd.
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  The madman vows Revenge. Applying his razor to unlucky
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  customers, and shuttling bodies down to mrs.
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  Lovett, who uses them for? Her meat, pie shop, mmm, tasty,
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  mmm. I love me pie though.
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  Many fall to his blade. He will not be satisfied until
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  he slits terpenes throat. Also, with that consider this.
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  Your spoiler warning, beautiful, Daniel beautiful.
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  Just excellent grade. A work.
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  I could not have done it better myself.
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  Best Yet the best yet. Okay, take it.
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  Easy, Elizabeth. He's not gonna do this every
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  week. Oh, I know.
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  And, you know, I can always free record and edit it.
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  And so, if I don't like it, all right, Elizabeth bring us.
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  It's her behind a wardrobe facts.
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  Today, we have the power couple director, Tim Burton and
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  costume, designer, Colleen, Atwood, the two of them together
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  on a Film. What more could anybody want?
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  You know, it's going to be beautiful.
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  Absolutely brilliant. There is no one greater than
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  Colleen Atwood. She is the legend.
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  She is the legend. Do you want me to delve into her
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  massive notable work? There's just one or two.
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  Oh yeah, just a small list. We have the 1990 adaptation of
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  the handmaid's tale. Edward Scissorhands, Silence of
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  the Lambs Philadelphia Wyatt Earp little And then 1994 which
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  she was nominated for her first Oscar Mars attack.
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  Beloved her second, Oscar nomination Sleepy, Hollow her
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  third, Oscar nomination, Planet of the Apes.
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  Chicago, her first Oscar win, Big Fish, A Series of
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  Unfortunate Events her fifth, Oscar nomination, Memoirs of a
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  Geisha her second Oscar win Mission Impossible, 39, her Six
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  or seven, Oscar nomination Public Enemies.
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  We're lazy killed Alice in Wonderland another Oscar win,
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  Snow White and the Huntsman another Oscar nomination into
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  the woods. Another Oscar nomination, Alice
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  Through the Looking Glass. Fantastic Beasts and Where to
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  Find Them another Oscar win. She also did the sequel.
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  And then bombshell I did not realize how many Oscars she has.
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  My name is just her films. That's just for films, do you?
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  Know what else you would? Everyone would know her from?
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  Oh, I already know but please tell everyone My Chemical
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  Romance, Welcome to the Black Parade.
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  That stunning Masterpiece that is her that is her as Archie
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  also did the original superhero designs for the CW's, flash,
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  arrow, and Supergirl. Well, there's no words.
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  There's no words. She's the best.
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  There is what else can you say about somebody who has done
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  such? Amazing things.
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  I mean anytime you see that Colleen Atwood scary to do a
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  film you just already know it's going to be amazing thanking all
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  the way back to like Edward Scissorhands and the science of
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  the Lambs, Mars Attacks, one of my personal favorites, it's just
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  she's defined costume design for so long.
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  She's defined costume design and she's really had an impact on,
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  you know, Tim Burton's just iconic.
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  Look because she does the majority of his costumes.
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  I don't know if there's a cost of film since Edward
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  Scissorhands, that she hasn't done the costumes for for him.
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  I'm not sure, but I'm sure there's not very many.
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  She's also incredibly nice. I've gone to meet her before and
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  she is just super sweet and humble.
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  When you meet her in person to she's the best.
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  She is, I saw her Adam. She had a panel at fit on, so I
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  got to see her speak there. She's so nice.
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  Yes, first we need Todd, she Has asked to do, you know, Victorian
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  era, but they wanted to really for it to be raw and dark and
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  much more, you know, true to life than the kind of polished
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  version that gets presented a lot and victorian-era film.
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  She said, my route isn't goth to me.
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  The influence was the makeup and the styling of the old black and
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  white movies, the lips, and the eyes are dark.
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  The faces light that that's the feeling we are going for more
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  than a Scott work so well. It's like definitely add this
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  one was associated with kind of like goth Punk style.
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  That's not what they were going for.
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  Yeah. It's people want to call it
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  gossip. It's also at the same time also
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  true to like the Victorian period in a way going through
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  hardship throwing clothes together.
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  Very dark, very decayed, you know, lots of poverty.
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  So yeah I didn't get the goth thing piece of it either.
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  It didn't feel God to me it just seemed more More.
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  Victorian era more than anything.
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  Yeah, I agree. To, and why thing with Tim
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  Burton films and Colleen, Atwood is people love to just always
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  say that timber in is, all about black and white.
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  And, you know, like when you go on Tick Tock, a see the kids
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  recreating Timber and looks, it's always just like black and
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  white and that is not at all, what's happening here?
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  And actually, if you look at Sweeney Todd, they do use a lot
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  of color and Colleen, Atwood, his Burly at using Color to
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  convey emotion and storytelling. Example when we see like the
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  couple dream sequences suddenly, it's super colorful yeah but
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  when you come back into the present day, it is very dark and
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  drab but there is pieces of color throughout to really
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  Express the moods of the certain colors.
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  Mrs. Lovett were some red. Sacha Baron Cohen's character
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  wears, lots of color Joanna's. Color is definitely blue.
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  Yeah, with that. Daniel, thank you so much for
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  joining us. You don't have to leave.
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  Leave, you're always welcome to stay in studio with us anytime,
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  but we're going to take a break and we're going to get to the
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  meat of this film. Get it definitely, definitely
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  getting to the meat very meaty, my favorite.
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  Thank you for joining us. Daniel, yeah, thanks for having
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  me. Thank you.
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  Bye everyone. All right.
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  Elizabeth, are you ready to have some bloody meaty fun today?
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  I am I still can't believe they baked the people into pies and
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  then people were eating them. Okay, I've heard Personally
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  think I was thinking about this, I was watching the movie.
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  If I were turned into meat pie, I think I would actually tastes
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  pretty good, not gonna lie. Oh like I'm sure the Pirates
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  were good but like those people are going to have problems.
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  You cannot eat other people and not end up being it's an issue.
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  You can't you shouldn't eat people?
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  Okay, I'll Google it after I just feel like I eat a lot like
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  this weekend. I had like some pizza I had in
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  and out, I have Popeyes. I just feel like I would make
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  for a good meat pie, but we can talk about this later.
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  Yeah, no, don't eat people. All right.
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  Well, we're just starting. Today's episode, we're going to
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  be breaking down a movie sort of song by song.
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  Instead of scene-by-scene picking a favorite costumes from
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  each of our favorite songs of the film.
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  Starting with a no place like London, a very awesome song.
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  It's also the first time we see Sweeney Todd He's had a pretty
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  long 15 years as you can imagine so much.
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  So he basically came out looking like a vampire.
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  It happens. Prison looks good on him.
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  I'm into it. Yeah, prison looks pretty good
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  on him and they did want him to just look thoroughly be in town.
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  USA quotes. Coming out with a saying he
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  comes off. The boat crossed it with salt.
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  He's been through a terrifying time in prison.
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  He's hard into life. He enters World with a shell on
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  like an insect shell. His jacket has a Sheen so it's
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  like, yeah, he does what crusty crusty.
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  That's never a good adjectives to use anyone.
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  He does like crusty. Yeah.
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  Like, the sea has really kind of given him that fun flowing,
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  Beach hair. Yeah, I will say, his hair was
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  improved by his time in prison. I love this costume.
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  I think, the like leather duster.
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  He's wearing looks very good on him, but then I also love this.
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  Her character to played by Jamie Campbell Bower Anthony.
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  He's a nice lad, a good friend of Sweeney Todd's and I love the
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  blue color on him. I love him because he's clearly
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  just like, he's a wide-eyed kid like doesn't really understand
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  how life, how horrible life can be even though he has like it
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  seems like lived his life on ships on.
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  Like he's seen a good chunk of the world but like he's just
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  like so excited for life. So one needs to tell him that
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  he's moving. Victorian era London?
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  Yeah, things are not going well. But like I mentioned earlier,
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  one of the first times we really see color in this film is a
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  flashback sequence to when Sweeney Todd and Lucy were
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  together. It's really beautiful.
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  It's very like the costumes are stunning.
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  Lots of color. Lots of, like, flowers in the
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  background, I feel so happy the same like smells good.
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  If you know what I mean, like everything about it.
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  Just feels warm and inviting Think it does and I especially
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  love this because I'm like it's so romanticized because it's
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  also like a little hazy. All the colors are like their
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  past Ellie and it's like oh I wonder if his life really was
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  this good or if he's just like had such a hard time of it he
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  made it seem better than it was maybe that's how he was
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  remembering it when he was in prison somewhere looking all
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  crusty. Probably what their textiles
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  used in lieu. These costumes.
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  Slow or so stunning? I want to touch them.
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  I know it's so beautiful. It's like it's a, it's very like
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  mid 18th century. Like just starting out in the
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  Victorian era. You're not quite there yet, but
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  it's beautiful. And that's just like, clearly.
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  She's a delicate flower. She's got like the little like
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  petal pattern with the hat and it's just like, oh, get this
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  perfect. Domestic little family.
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  You and Johnny Depp's coat too? That's a nice coat.
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  He looks so good in this flashback, I'm like, oh, you're
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  just like the perfect little family right here.
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  Okay, I think Johnny Depp looks great.
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  And every form Sweeney Todd, even Edward Scissorhands,
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  Pirates of the Caribbean. Sweet, Johnny Depp has got it
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  going on. He's got it going on but he
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  looks particularly good here and it's just like, I don't know.
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  I feel like because of part The Caribbean, like he's kind of
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  like cemented in my mind is just like a middle-aged man always.
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  But it's like, oh my gosh, she looks so young because he is so
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  young in this movie, even though it was made after Pirates of the
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  Caribbean but true. All right, well, moving on to
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  one of my favorite songs in the film and the introduction of one
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  of my all-time favorite people on this planet.
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  Helena Bonham, Carter. She's just the greatest, I love
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  her. Will she ever does?
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  And she actually has a nice voice and I still singing voice.
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  I think she does. I was not expecting this.
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  It was great though. And they wanted her to kind of
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  make her look like a crow. Who's just, like, picked up
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  things here or there, and I'm like, oh I think you
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  accomplished that there's like smashed up dried up bread.
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  Everywhere. There's some roaches, all over
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  her kitchen. She's going through it.
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  She is going through it and Even with her her dress, it's like I
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  feel like there's a base dress under there then.
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  But then with like, the little bit of read some of the trim, it
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  looks like she like kept adding stuff to it.
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  Yeah, I love like the peak of read that was always coming out
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  from underneath her dress has a lot of fun.
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  It showed that, you know, there's still a little bit of
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  color left in her. She does fancy a little bit of
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  dressing up moment, but still like she really does have the
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  resources to really go crazy with her outfits.
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  I like this quote, you have on the left, you want to read it.
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  It, she was somebody who almost was like a crow.
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  She's was always picking up a bit of this or that up.
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  Everyone is a little grimy in the movie as she got more money.
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  She got a couple of new dresses, I used a lot of authentic
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  Fabrics, her dresses were a range of color but subtle and
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  controlled there was always a hint of red peeking out, but
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  very low-key. A lot of her stuff had a Sheen
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  or beating. I thought she'd be attracted to
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  a bit of Escalator, as for Fink release gloves.
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  People were them up in the period.
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  They've been around, they were there.
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  So, don't question it. I know I love that because it's
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  like, when this movie came out, like fingerless gloves were
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  thing. Like I had a pair of lace
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  fingerless gloves that I would wear to school.
• 22:26
  And I love people must have been like, oh, so you're picking up
• 22:28
  on the trend. She's like, no, she's like these
• 22:32
  have been around for a long time.
• 22:33
  Don't act like it's something new.
• 22:36
  Come on, this is a period film. People Colleen knows what she's
• 22:39
  doing. Don't ever question her, how
• 22:40
  dare you? But yeah, I love, I love, mrs.
• 22:45
  Lovett's, initial costume. I think it's lots of fun very
• 22:50
  weathered and I love watching her transition throughout the
• 22:53
  film as she starts to make some money off of her Delicious Pies.
• 22:57
  Yeah, also Sweeney Todd, we got to kind of see what's underneath
• 23:03
  of his jacket and While it settle, she really did try to
• 23:07
  have like, a transition for him. She says, as he starts
• 23:11
  barbering, he becomes part of the world.
• 23:14
  He's living in a world where people use recycled clothing,
• 23:18
  the jacket he wears to work was influenced by work where of the
• 23:20
  period I really felt, he needed some heavy weight to his feet.
• 23:25
  Like he was dragging weight and his boots are quite heavy and
• 23:29
  have nails around outside of the Soul.
• 23:32
  On top, you get a kick of silver when he hits the At all the
• 23:36
  barber chair, his costumes are simple.
• 23:38
  He's not conscious of what he's wearing Sweeney Todd's, not
• 23:41
  conscious of much in this movie outside of his need for Revenge.
• 23:46
  Yeah, that's tough. He's consumed by Revenge.
• 23:49
  He I mean sometimes he doesn't realize he has blood all over
• 23:52
  him he's just like okay who's next?
• 23:54
  Yeah he doesn't realize it and I love what she says buy recycled
• 23:58
  because like he looks like he's wearing the same thing
• 24:00
  throughout the whole film but when you pay attention, it is
• 24:04
  different. It's just Variations of the same
• 24:07
  thing and he really does always seemed way down by his shoes and
• 24:12
  whatever jacket he's wearing at the time because he's just like
• 24:15
  someone who cannot leave the past alone.
• 24:19
  It what I love about this movie. In terms of the costumes, is
• 24:23
  that the costumes are subtle? We were talking about this
• 24:26
  during a break sometimes good costume designing costumes.
• 24:29
  Know when it's time to like take a step back and that's what
• 24:33
  Colleen Atwood did this. This film isn't about the
• 24:37
  costumes because the people of this of, you know, London at
• 24:41
  this time we're not all about fancy costumes.
• 24:44
  They are recycling, you know, a lot of their clothing.
• 24:47
  So the costumes are great as in they tell the story of each of
• 24:50
  the characters. But also they're not taking
• 24:53
  Center Stage because you know this this film is supposed to
• 24:57
  feel very realistic and set in the period realistic and his
• 25:01
  sense of you know, where they are in the world right now.
• 25:04
  And so the Seems are really great in aiding to that story
• 25:09
  line. Yeah, I agree and I think a lot
• 25:11
  of people forget like the Victorian era was a great time
• 25:15
  of prosperity for England. Much of the 1800's was very
• 25:20
  prosperous for England, but for the rich and like, the upper
• 25:24
  middle class, those who didn't have money.
• 25:27
  It was horrible. And I feel like this film really
• 25:31
  reflects that. Yeah, totally.
• 25:33
  Speaking of things not going so well.
• 25:35
  For people the next song we talked about.
• 25:39
  So awful, it's called poor thing and we get a little bit of a
• 25:43
  background on what happened to Lucy after Sweeney Todd was sent
• 25:49
  to prison and things are not great.
• 25:52
  Like you said, the rich seem to be having a great old time.
• 25:55
  We're witnessing a fun. Looks like a masquerade type
• 25:59
  party. Lots of actually really
• 26:00
  brilliant costumes. Here, the same the underlying
• 26:03
  story of the scene is terrible. But the costumes are brilliant.
• 26:07
  Lots of like black and white stripes which feels very Timber
• 26:10
  and lots of Reds and like bright colors.
• 26:13
  Yeah. This this is such an awful scene
• 26:17
  and she's wearing the same dress from the dream sequence.
• 26:21
  And it's like, you can just tell how out a place.
• 26:23
  She is among these people and how trapped she is.
• 26:26
  And it's like, oh and then Turpin with like his devil devil
• 26:30
  masks. I'm like, oh so, so on point so
• 26:34
  creepy. Let's just move.
• 26:35
  Move on. But the costumes in this scene
• 26:38
  are brilliant. Do so we had to talk about it.
• 26:42
  This brings me to one of my other favorite sequences.
• 26:45
  It's the greenfinch and linnet bird as well as the mash-up with
• 26:50
  Joanna. And this is what we introduced
• 26:53
  Sweeney, Todd's, daughter Johanna and Anthony's back and
• 26:57
  we have this beautiful scene where Joanna's just sitting, by
• 27:00
  the window, just singing out the window to God knows who, but she
• 27:05
  Anybody that will listen literally, she's basically, this
• 27:10
  is like the Victorian era version of Twitter.
• 27:14
  Rishi has a bird next to her and she's just singing out a window
• 27:17
  to anyone. Who will listen, anybody out
• 27:19
  there? No.
• 27:20
  Okay. Her dress is gonna listen to me,
• 27:23
  okay? Dress is beautiful though.
• 27:25
  Just sitting by the window looking like Cinderella over
• 27:28
  here. Yeah, clearly because after her
• 27:32
  mother quote-unquote died and Sweeney Todd, was You know, sent
• 27:36
  to prison, she was taken in by Judge Turpin and it's like
• 27:40
  clearly he took like very good care of her as creepy as it is,
• 27:45
  and it's like, oh yes, you are a beautiful little trapped bird.
• 27:50
  Oh my God said, they think of the symbolism with the bird and
• 27:53
  her right next to it. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:56
  That's she sings about being in a bigger cage than the bird but
• 28:00
  she's just as trapped that fly over my head fly over my head
• 28:05
  like That. Oh nice.
• 28:10
  Yeah, that's that's what it is. But the song, Joanna is one of
• 28:15
  my favorite songs from the entire film.
• 28:17
  I'm a big musical nerd and Broadway, we didn't really
• 28:20
  mention it. But Sweeney Todd, The Demon
• 28:22
  Barber of Fleet Street. It's an adaptation of Stephen,
• 28:26
  Sondheim and Hugh wheelers. Tony, award-winning, 1979
• 28:31
  musical of the same name. It's also based off of original
• 28:35
  play. Say so the music in this film is
• 28:38
  just so incredible, very Sondheim, very quick and witty.
• 28:42
  But the song Joanna to me is just so beautiful.
• 28:45
  I love to sing in the shower, like I'm a trapped little bird.
• 28:49
  It's not the case, but it gets me in the fields.
• 28:53
  Yeah, this this song is great, especially because poor Anthony.
• 28:58
  He's just like oh I love, I love him because it's just the most
• 29:03
  ridiculous foot. Very Victorian.
• 29:05
  Torian Trope of seeing a beautiful woman.
• 29:07
  And obviously this is the person I'm supposed to spend the rest
• 29:10
  of my life with. So I will do absolutely anything
• 29:13
  to be with her. It's like, aw Anthony love at
• 29:19
  first sight, through via window. I wish dating was like that in
• 29:23
  real life. You know, instead of like using
• 29:25
  all these terrible dating apps, which I'm clearly not very good
• 29:29
  at, I just can start walking my people's windows and start
• 29:32
  singing. Do you think they'll work?
• 29:34
  So I start expecting acting calls.
• 29:36
  And speaking of other weird people, whenever Timothy spall
• 29:45
  is my film, I'm already creeped out.
• 29:49
  I cannot see this man without thinking of Peter Pettigrew.
• 29:53
  I just can't. There's nothing he could do.
• 29:55
  That would convince me. Otherwise, I love him.
• 29:58
  He's like he's such a good actor and he apparently has like a
• 30:02
  particular love of doing movies. This time period And it's like
• 30:08
  he just looks like he was made to be the creepy guy in the
• 30:12
  Victorian era film. Like if it's imperfectly that's
• 30:17
  that's that's a good way to describe it.
• 30:19
  Like that's that's his that's a thing that creepy sidekick guy
• 30:23
  and any like, Victorian era film or story but he is the sidekick
• 30:29
  of a arguably creepier person played by.
• 30:32
  Okay? I think this is really what
• 30:34
  turned me off. For this film a little bit,
• 30:37
  having Alan Rickman play, such a horrible human being.
• 30:41
  I just love Alan Rickman so much.
• 30:43
  I love Alan Rickman so much and I just like my brain is like I
• 30:48
  can't I can't do this. I was like I hate this
• 30:54
  character, he's awful, he's awful but he does kind of look
• 30:59
  good. He does his costumes are very
• 31:02
  sophisticated. Nice.
• 31:03
  Yeah. And At words, quoted as saying
• 31:07
  the judge had a little poetry in his heart.
• 31:10
  His Heyday was pre-victorian and he clung to those kind of
• 31:14
  clothes his clothing had once been fine, but he was very
• 31:18
  unkempt and Grobe and unshaven. But harkening back to a time
• 31:21
  when he was on top of the world in the beginning of the movie.
• 31:25
  So true. That's very interesting too
• 31:27
  because he is wearing kind of like the same clothes but when
• 31:29
  you see him in a dream sequence, it's a very colorful.
• 31:32
  But then when you see him in the present time, it's almost like
• 31:35
  the The same clothes but they just like lost or color, which
• 31:38
  is pretty interesting. Yeah, because clearly, it's more
• 31:42
  of a Regency Era we look to him in the dream sequence and then
• 31:48
  present day, Victoria London. It's just like that, but like
• 31:53
  shoved into the Victorian era. Like, he's like, oh, I guess I
• 31:57
  have to update myself. Now, moving onto a very fun,
• 32:02
  interesting scene. I think this is one of my
• 32:04
  favorite scene It's just so ridiculous.
• 32:08
  So fun. I Pirellis Miracle Elixir.
• 32:12
  We have to talk about the same. I did not realize this is such a
• 32:16
  Baron Cohen until I re-watched. It really just it never dawned
• 32:20
  on me, but now that I've re-watched it for, you know,
• 32:23
  I've seen it tons of times. It's so funny.
• 32:26
  He's such. He's so he's such a brilliant
• 32:29
  actor and he's so good at playing.
• 32:30
  These really high energy. Funny can't be characters, he
• 32:34
  deserves more credit. He's not just Borat to me, he's
• 32:38
  a factually very great character actor.
• 32:40
  I know. I honestly, I love him and
• 32:43
  everything except for at like can't stand him in.
• 32:49
  I can't anything else, he's brilliant, but yeah, this is an
• 32:53
  amazing look. And it's just like this very
• 32:56
  strange, hybrid of like a Spanish.
• 33:00
  Bullfighter with like, some French influence in there.
• 33:04
  And I'm just like, This is so bizarre.
• 33:07
  And apparently, like he, I was watching an interview with
• 33:11
  Colleen, Atwood. And she was joking with Sacha
• 33:15
  Baron Cohen. She's like, you've had almost
• 33:17
  more fittings and mrs. Lovett, just so they could get
• 33:20
  this one costume, right? That's hilarious.
• 33:26
  It's absolutely so crazy. So campy, but also, it like
• 33:30
  sticks out so much like, you know, that this person is No
• 33:35
  Pirellis a fraud and he stands out as a psych, big energy
• 33:40
  costume because he's not actually supposed to belong
• 33:42
  here. And I think it's quite brilliant
• 33:45
  that the costume was able to tell so much of that.
• 33:48
  Hmm. Yeah.
• 33:49
  No, I love this scene. I love his character especially
• 33:53
  when he comes to visit Sweeney Todd and you find out that he
• 33:57
  was like the boy who swept up his hair.
• 34:00
  He's not actually this like foreign exotic Barber.
• 34:05
  That fur coat and Top Hat. He's wearing, I'm just like, oh
• 34:09
  my gosh, perfect perfect, it's so crazy.
• 34:14
  But I do love that crowd C2 so much because mrs.
• 34:17
  Lovett, I love her little hat. It's very simple, but really
• 34:21
  like Elevate her costume. So much for felt like a
• 34:24
  sophisticated Lady of the time, but also, there's a little bit
• 34:28
  of a cameo and audience set a lot of people probably haven't
• 34:31
  noticed. And this actor actually goes
• 34:34
  uncredited. You see Buffy the Vampire
• 34:37
  Slayer, right. I know except yeah, the head who
• 34:41
  plays Giles of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
• 34:44
  He has a speaking role and he's not credited in the film.
• 34:48
  I saw him and then I was like, oh, we're going to see him
• 34:50
  again? Nope, no, he just, they booked
• 34:53
  him for those, like two lines. Is he friends with Tim Burton or
• 34:57
  still do? I need to?
• 34:58
  I need to ask somebody because I'm like, how did you book ethne
• 35:02
  head and then just used him for two lines.
• 35:05
  Because I thought he was going to be like someone who had
• 35:07
  something to do with like, you know, his, you know, being sent
• 35:11
  to prison and like you the whole thing with his wife, like I
• 35:14
  thought there was going to be more and then it's just, you
• 35:16
  never see him again. I was like, okay, you must have
• 35:19
  been like nearby on set one day walking by half a cup of coffee
• 35:22
  and I like, hey can you say these lines first real quick?
• 35:25
  We'll pay you x amount of money. You must have been, like, sure,
• 35:27
  we're not. So, as Elizabeth mentioned
• 35:33
  Pirelli appears at sea Sweeney Todd's, Barbershop wearing his
• 35:37
  ridiculous, fur coat and Top Hat.
• 35:39
  As man could not get any more ridiculous.
• 35:42
  And Sweeney Todd does not enjoy him at all.
• 35:45
  So much so this lens to the first kill of the movie and it's
• 35:50
  barely, I love it. I love all the gore, very bloody
• 35:54
  it is brilliant and I love it's not so much that like I think
• 35:58
  that he's threatening to like take over his business because
• 36:01
  Sweeney Todd clearly doesn't care about the business aspect
• 36:03
  of it. He's like you Who I am.
• 36:06
  You must die. Yeah, it's very quick and scary.
• 36:10
  I love how like tacky and can't be the blood.
• 36:14
  And this film is like clearly they just like put in a bunch of
• 36:17
  tubes and like we're just pumping out as much blood as
• 36:20
  possible to make it so theatrical.
• 36:22
  I thought it was hilarious, actually clearly?
• 36:26
  I yeah, it was funny. I wasn't expecting it, but it
• 36:30
  was funny. And then when a little boy, Toby
• 36:34
  was like sitting. Being on the box with Pirellis
• 36:37
  like hands still. Twitching looks like he's still
• 36:39
  alive. This is terrible.
• 36:42
  It was so bad. It's awful.
• 36:46
  All right. Well, this is game bloody.
• 36:47
  So let's take a break to get ourselves together and we'll
• 36:50
  jump into the rest of this movie.
• 37:11
  Spencer, are you ready for the Pretty Woman song?
• 37:15
  I feel like I need a good shave. A very close, nice shave.
• 37:19
  So yes, let's do it. Very close, nice shave that I
• 37:23
  was annoyed about because I was like we could have avoided so
• 37:26
  many problems if you just murdered him.
• 37:29
  Right then and there come on Sweeney Todd, this We could have
• 37:32
  been 20 minutes. Yeah yeah.
• 37:35
  He misses opportunity. Mrs. Opportunity.
• 37:38
  Joanna could have not been thrown into a lunatic asylum so
• 37:43
  much could have been different. I hated that scene.
• 37:45
  Hated that scene. That was scary.
• 37:48
  Is it true that they use the hair of Asylum patients with to
• 37:52
  make wigs? I think so probably.
• 37:55
  Well we're starting to segment with pretty women.
• 37:58
  Like Elizabeth summed up for you.
• 38:00
  The judge comes for nice. I shave, but of course, Anthony
• 38:04
  comes in and ruins everything. So he gets out and storms out,
• 38:08
  very pissed. I also the thing about this
• 38:10
  movie that makes me crazy. It's the small.
• 38:14
  I considered a film a horror film in ways.
• 38:16
  Yes, that's a musical that has also horror elements.
• 38:19
  When he's just dragging his blade, across people's faces to
• 38:23
  shave them. It gives me the creeps because I
• 38:26
  just I do not like sharp things knives, they scare me a lot of
• 38:31
  places are All called it. A slasher musical.
• 38:34
  Yeah. And I was like oh, that's so.
• 38:36
  True is a special musical. It's so funny.
• 38:41
  It gives me the creeps every time.
• 38:43
  So Sweeney Todd's, pretty pissed that he missed out on his one
• 38:47
  chance. He blew it.
• 38:48
  Let's all be real, but Sweeney Todd is like a very angry, man.
• 38:53
  All the time and loves to just throw his anger on everyone
• 38:57
  around him. Blame everyone, but himself has
• 39:00
  a little bit of a yelling match of Has loved it.
• 39:03
  But then I get like a little bit of an idea of how they could
• 39:05
  turn things around. This brings us to A Little
• 39:08
  Priest, a great horribly fun song.
• 39:11
  We're basically talking about all the different neighbors and
• 39:14
  how, you know, nice. They might be as nice little
• 39:18
  meal. Yeah, I mean, who doesn't want
• 39:21
  your local priest in a pie like it won't Garner you any sort of
• 39:26
  attention when he doesn't come back down from getting a haircut
• 39:29
  but you know it's it's actually amazing.
• 39:31
  How much They got away with but yeah, I felt like this movie.
• 39:35
  Only took place over like, whoa week though.
• 39:38
  Like, I feel like it wasn't that long.
• 39:40
  It didn't seem to be a long time and I had forgotten to when I
• 39:45
  was watching this I was like, wait, doesn't the judge?
• 39:47
  Go to his chair like shouldn't that be the end?
• 39:50
  And, you know, once we saw pretty woman, I was like, okay,
• 39:53
  no, that's not how it goes. But this is when we start to see
• 39:56
  a lot of the costumes, you know, throughout this movie because a
• 40:00
  lot of people just start coming by Sweeney Todd's Barbershop and
• 40:05
  just kill after kill. Lots of different.
• 40:08
  Victorian men, keep coming through and he's just hacking
• 40:12
  them all up. One by one.
• 40:14
  Yeah, I love the one guy he wants grow because he brought
• 40:17
  his wife and young daughter with him and he's like a cow crap.
• 40:23
  He's like, oh man what do we do? Like a murder you now sweet,
• 40:27
  he's having a good time, but I just love seeing all the
• 40:30
  different gentlemen come through and all their It Coats just, you
• 40:34
  know, like I mentioned earlier, just very period but like
• 40:38
  doesn't take Center Stage. All the colors are very close to
• 40:41
  the same so really gives life to the actual story which is what I
• 40:45
  think is. So brilliant.
• 40:46
  The costumes of those film. Yeah.
• 40:49
  And then Anthony finds his good girlfriend.
• 40:52
  Joanna hanging out at Asylum. Now that you know, she's clearly
• 40:56
  made it clear that she wants to leave the Mad judges house.
• 41:00
  Yeah, and sweetheart. He's Like committed to helping
• 41:03
  Anthony like get her but he's also just so preoccupied with
• 41:07
  his revenge. I'm like, dude, can you take
• 41:09
  like two seconds? Maybe just go grab your
• 41:11
  daughter. I love.
• 41:13
  And particularly when they start to make some money at the pie
• 41:17
  shop because mrs. Lovett's character.
• 41:20
  She just comes to life, like she even dyes her hair a little bit.
• 41:23
  It has like that. Real red color.
• 41:26
  Yeah, dresses are little bit more fashionable.
• 41:29
  She started to live her best life.
• 41:32
  Still not like she's not wearing like incredible Cinderella Ball
• 41:36
  Gown but she's, you know, it's a little bit more of a fresher
• 41:38
  look for him. Yeah, like they're clearly knew.
• 41:42
  She clearly got something a little bit nicer.
• 41:45
  She is very much trying to get the local old lady out all the
• 41:51
  time. Yeah, she's so annoying.
• 41:53
  She's like, shoe. Get that lady out of here.
• 41:56
  Get her out. And I'm like this poor like
• 41:58
  beggar woman like just leave her and give her a pie and leave her
• 42:01
  alone. Own.
• 42:02
  But she's also, the only one who realizes, what's up with them?
• 42:06
  Yeah. She's very suspicious of her
• 42:08
  costume was actually quite interesting too because it was
• 42:11
  very dark and it felt like it was like a corpse is costume.
• 42:15
  The way that like you'd see in like a casket or something, it
• 42:18
  was very dark and like lots of like all the lace.
• 42:22
  I was kind of like veiling her, which probably is to the
• 42:25
  character of trying to cover up her identity.
• 42:28
  But yeah, reminded me of like a corpses costume.
• 42:32
  Did you put a giant picture of me pies here?
• 42:34
  Because I thought the meat pies. Look so good.
• 42:38
  I just feel hungry. Whenever I watched the scene, is
• 42:41
  that wrong. I don't know.
• 42:43
  Probably, I feel like I'm going to need some therapy after our
• 42:48
  spooky season here. Hey, yeah.
• 42:51
  No. Thank you.
• 42:51
  I'm good on the meat 54 right now.
• 42:53
  Are you sure? Well, okay, we could talk about
• 42:56
  this later. Maybe we could send some meat
• 42:58
  pies to each other. When you visit soon, I'm going
• 43:01
  to have some me. Eat pies made and I won't tell
• 43:03
  you what's in them. Okay I should be recovered by
• 43:06
  that point. Well actually I'm feeling a
• 43:10
  little hungry. I think it's time for us to take
• 43:12
  a real quick break real quick. Take a break.
• 43:14
  Get a snacky snack. Come right back.
• 43:16
  We're going to come back and finish up this movie.
• 43:19
  We're almost there already. It's a quick movie.
• 43:40
  Elizabeth tyrita. Take a little trip by the Sea.
• 43:43
  Hang out at the beach. I'm always ready for a little
• 43:45
  trip by the Sea. Well, it's been pretty clear
• 43:50
  throughout the film that mrs. Lovett has a little bit of a
• 43:53
  crush on Sweeney Todd. Oh yeah.
• 43:56
  And it's also clear. She like kind of knew who he was
• 43:59
  before he was taken. Away anything she's had a little
• 44:02
  crush on him since back then yeah there's definitely some
• 44:06
  history there that he's not very aware of piracy is one of the
• 44:10
  most famous scenes from a musical ever and rightfully so
• 44:15
  it's brilliant. And this is where a lot of the
• 44:17
  costumes. This is really where Colleen
• 44:19
  Atwood had some fun with this film.
• 44:21
  Oh yeah. She got the to a little bit of a
• 44:23
  dream Montage. Lots of color.
• 44:25
  Lots of different costumes. It's, it's brilliant.
• 44:29
  They go from, like I drop Hill. Aside to like just fully on the
• 44:32
  beach and he, he looks so miserable and his black and
• 44:36
  white stripe. Well, she just looks like she's
• 44:40
  having the time of her life and her cute little like Bloomer
• 44:45
  blue right in white bathing suit with the ribbons in her hair.
• 44:50
  It's so funny because he's clearly just like sitting there.
• 44:53
  Like she's singing around him, he just happens to be there and
• 44:56
  she's just a visioning different outfits on him.
• 44:59
  Another thing I noticed which I think is quite brilliant.
• 45:02
  Is my thing, they always get frustrated in films is like,
• 45:05
  when the aging and dying feels off, you know, like when they go
• 45:09
  somewhere and outfits to clean, you go to the desert.
• 45:12
  But you're like all your whites are perfectly white and this
• 45:15
  scene, everything is perfectly clean and fresh and new and it
• 45:19
  makes sense your because this is a dream.
• 45:21
  So why would she envisioned herself and dirty clothes?
• 45:24
  You know, all the whites are perfectly white.
• 45:27
  It's brand new. It looks like they just took
• 45:29
  this out of the plastic from the Rolling rack.
• 45:31
  They put it on and they got to work.
• 45:33
  Yeah, I love it. It's adorable.
• 45:37
  I love the inspiration from actual like swimsuits of the
• 45:41
  time but then I love like when share her vision of a little
• 45:46
  Seaside cabin and she's in just like, it's like a honey freely
• 45:50
  and like, pinky red. I don't know if they're for you
• 45:54
  and he just looks terrified. I love it so much.
• 45:59
  Just how I imagined how Noble Part of dresses when she's at
• 46:02
  home already. And like a big dramatic red gown
• 46:05
  with her crazy hair. This is so fun.
• 46:09
  I really want that black and white swimsuit.
• 46:11
  Actually, it feels very me and then I love the Promenade scene,
• 46:15
  where he has the white, the white, striped suit.
• 46:20
  And she's that dress. Oh my gosh, it's so beautiful.
• 46:25
  It's so fun. I feel so warm, even though the
• 46:29
  rain like like he's still Wearing black and white but
• 46:31
  still feels very warm. It's it looks amazing.
• 46:35
  She looks like a peppermint stick.
• 46:39
  Like a beautiful candy cane, like a beautiful candy cane.
• 46:43
  I it's a beautiful dress also. Like when you get to see all the
• 46:48
  little details, I'm like, oh my gosh, they like really went all
• 46:52
  out. Yeah, it's very structured.
• 46:54
  There must have been so many yards of fabric in this dress.
• 46:57
  There's so much draping and little like Fluid ounces in it.
• 47:02
  It's crazy. It's yeah, it's a beautiful
• 47:05
  piece and then they get married, which is also brilliant.
• 47:09
  I love this part. It's just like, he's like, he
• 47:16
  doesn't care, but he also looks mildly.
• 47:19
  Terrified of what will happen if he says, no.
• 47:22
  He's just like, I don't even think he said I do, he's just
• 47:25
  like, okay, it's something to that extent.
• 47:29
  He's like, And she's clearly just been like thinking about
• 47:33
  this non-stop for ever thinking about it non-stop.
• 47:37
  It doesn't care, that he's not into it and I hate that you
• 47:42
  can't see the wedding dress because it's so cute.
• 47:46
  It is it's like white and like satin and Lacey and it like
• 47:52
  exactly what a woman would want for a wedding dress back.
• 47:55
  Then there's like a little bows all over it, which is
• 47:59
  ridiculous. It's Brilliant, I love it, it's
• 48:02
  so good but it's so crazy. The textiles and the trims to
• 48:07
  use to if it's so like to the point very on-brand for the
• 48:11
  period and then they come back to reality.
• 48:15
  And I love this transition because like she's ending her
• 48:19
  dream with like them all sitting on the beach like there they are
• 48:22
  sitting on the hill but it's bright.
• 48:25
  Its cheery you can see the like blues and what she's wearing but
• 48:30
  then the Shifts to what it has been this whole time.
• 48:33
  Very dark, very grimy, kind of green and all the colors gone.
• 48:38
  They all look like they're wearing black and white.
• 48:40
  Yeah. Back to reality very drab and
• 48:43
  also Toby came out of nowhere. He wasn't there earlier also
• 48:46
  like this dirty boy is sitting next to mrs.
• 48:49
  Lovett he was he was flying a kite.
• 48:52
  Oh well that's cute well now he's back and he's looking like
• 48:55
  he hasn't showered in like a couple years.
• 48:58
  All dirty. It's just like back.
• 49:00
  To reality and Sweeney Todd. Looks just as happy now as he
• 49:04
  did in a dream sequence. Yeah, I loved it.
• 49:07
  She like straight-up doesn't care as long as he's physically
• 49:10
  the a gosh. Let's go to picnics soon by the
• 49:16
  ocean. Okay, that sounds good.
• 49:19
  This brings us to one of my favorite songs, it's quite
• 49:23
  ridiculous. It's called not while I'm
• 49:25
  around. And I will not paint You by
• 49:27
  singing it because it's quite awful.
• 49:29
  But I love this. I think it is so ridiculous and
• 49:32
  funny, and we actually get to see.
• 49:36
  Mrs. Lovett in her final costume.
• 49:38
  Actually, we're getting into final costumes for everybody,
• 49:41
  mrs. Lovett's costume is very
• 49:44
  sophisticated. Nice.
• 49:45
  Now, even though, she's, you know, taking a break, she's
• 49:48
  exhausted, but the structure of it is beautiful.
• 49:51
  It's beautiful. This is clearly.
• 49:52
  Like the most expensive gown she's got its got like layer
• 49:56
  upon layer, drapes lace. All All over it.
• 50:01
  And I chil of the black white and like that silvery gray
• 50:06
  because it's like Oh I'm a sophisticated lady now but she's
• 50:08
  still doing. Do like just as Shady hey she's
• 50:12
  a baker, she's making some Delicious Pies.
• 50:14
  No one asks where we get the meat for the McDonald's,
• 50:17
  burgers. So why are you asking about how
• 50:19
  she makes her Pines? I mean, this is why I don't eat
• 50:23
  McDonald's burgers, me, neither this podcast is not sponsored by
• 50:29
  McDonald's. No, Helena Bonham, Carter has
• 50:33
  such a beautiful like structure to I love like her shoulders and
• 50:36
  her collar bones. She like I'm like you are
• 50:39
  someone who's built to wear costumes because like anything
• 50:43
  you see her and like it's the thing where like she wears it it
• 50:46
  doesn't wear her and like she just makes it come alive and I'm
• 50:50
  like, oh, she's perfect, what's this?
• 50:54
  Oh yeah. So there really is.
• 50:55
  I'm wearing my helmet Bonham. Carter shirt.
• 50:57
  Wow, that was an accident. I'll post a picture on the
• 51:02
  Instagram for everybody. If you really care that
• 51:05
  narrator's voice, they don't. Yeah, it's pretty good.
• 51:10
  To the grand finale of Sweeney Todd and that was quite the
• 51:15
  emotional roller coaster. I know, because I'm like, you
• 51:19
  know, mrs. Lovett.
• 51:20
  She's the real villain of this because she could have told
• 51:25
  Sweeney Todd that, like, hey, your wife took some arsenic,
• 51:31
  Like went crazy FYI and I feel like he would have spent his
• 51:36
  time trying to get her better and taking care of her because
• 51:40
  that's clearly the kind of, man, he was and, like, not trying to
• 51:44
  murder everybody. I feel like he had probably
• 51:46
  would have mercy killed her. Honestly.
• 51:49
  Like, I don't think so. Maybe at like this point if she
• 51:54
  hadn't already been dead. Yeah, but I think if it was
• 51:57
  like, he comes in and misses love is like, oh, you're that
• 51:59
  guy. That crazy lady on the street is
• 52:02
  your wife. FYI.
• 52:04
  I think he would have just taken care of her and been a normal
• 52:07
  Barber. I don't want to go as far as
• 52:10
  saying that she was the villain what she did was messed up, but
• 52:14
  also, she's just like driven by love and so, very messed up, a
• 52:20
  very mess of love. Yes.
• 52:22
  But like, I don't feel like she did it with.
• 52:25
  I mean, she's the one who gives him the idea to like murder
• 52:29
  people for me. Way.
• 52:32
  But because he's just like super angry.
• 52:34
  And then she's like, let's Channel this anger towards
• 52:36
  murder for my pie shop. Those crazy kids.
• 52:40
  They do all sorts of weird stuff these days.
• 52:43
  Yeah, like like her and the judge.
• 52:46
  Thank God. No, the judge is terrible.
• 52:49
  Yes. Okay.
• 52:50
  I think they're all the same level.
• 52:52
  I don't think she's headed for the crazy homeless lady.
• 52:55
  Outside the end up, getting killed in the shop, but you
• 52:58
  know, but she knows who she is. She is and should have told him
• 53:03
  she should have mentioned that for sure.
• 53:05
  Either way, she gets tossed into the oven like a baked potato.
• 53:10
  So, rest in peace, mrs. Lovett, that was awful.
• 53:13
  Also coming down, the trash chute would be the Judge Turpin.
• 53:18
  And Peter Pettigrew also comes down the Chute.
• 53:22
  So just like that. The movie basically wraps up
• 53:25
  with Sweeney Todd finally gained his revenge and, you know, it is
• 53:29
  what it is. Bada bing, bada, boom.
• 53:31
  Almost murdering his daughter. Hey, I like was not expecting
• 53:36
  that unlike dude, clearly. That is not a young boy, just
• 53:40
  take his hat off, right? Also, Joanna could have said
• 53:43
  something like. Hey Anthony, just told me to
• 53:46
  hide here. You're friends with Anthony,
• 53:48
  right? She could have said something
• 53:50
  but of course, she just, yeah, she could have been like my
• 53:52
  name's Joanna. Anthony told me to hide here.
• 53:55
  I'm your daughter. Been said, she was like, okay,
• 53:57
  bye. She knows who her parents are.
• 54:00
  Are no, but like she was put here for a reason but anyways,
• 54:05
  it doesn't really matter. Well Anthony doesn't know Joanne
• 54:08
  has his daughter either. That's true.
• 54:10
  These people need to like have a conversation instead of sharing
• 54:15
  hiding. So many secrets from each other.
• 54:17
  We need to have like a group family therapy session, mrs.
• 54:20
  Lovett mr. Todd Anthony and Joanna, we
• 54:23
  could work some things out even little Toby.
• 54:25
  If we said hey Toby or making some bacon sandwiches out of our
• 54:29
  neighbors, he probably, Have been on board.
• 54:31
  I think he would have been on board to if he realized mrs.
• 54:35
  Lovett was in, on it, I think if things had been explained to him
• 54:39
  better, it would have been fine. Yeah, but instead he comes down
• 54:44
  and he is slices open Sweeney Todd's throat which I think
• 54:48
  Sweeney Todd. Really kind of just lets him
• 54:50
  because he's really like done with life at this point bleeds.
• 54:53
  All over his beautiful wife and that's it.
• 54:57
  And that is Sweeney Todd, The Demon Barber of Fleet.
• 55:00
  It's tree, everyone. That was crazy.
• 55:03
  I love this movie. That was a wild movie.
• 55:06
  I need to watch it again. I'm not entirely sure how I feel
• 55:10
  about it. It's a lot.
• 55:13
  It is beautiful now, like if nothing else.
• 55:15
  It is a beautiful film. I love this movie, I could watch
• 55:20
  it over and over. Definitely my Spotify playlist
• 55:23
  is gonna be nothing but Sweeney Todd for the next couple weeks.
• 55:26
  Now, it just really reminded me how much I love the music.
• 55:29
  It's so great. Joanna, over and over again.
• 55:33
  Yep. And No One's Gonna harm.
• 55:35
  You also Colleen Atwood just Bravo.
• 55:39
  She's just. Oh my goodness.
• 55:42
  Just yeah, the costumes were absolutely stunning.
• 55:46
  That's it. You know, it is what it is.
• 55:48
  She's a legend. The costumes are brilliant.
• 55:51
  Rap rap. Well, Elizabeth spooky.
• 55:55
  Season here is not over yet, we have some more.
• 55:58
  I dare to say, And content coming, but I'll leave that up
• 56:02
  to you. What are we watching next week?
• 56:05
  Next week we are watching Francis.
• 56:08
  Ford Coppola has Bram Stoker's Dracula.
• 56:14
  You never saw Sweeney Todd and I've never seen Dracula and a
• 56:19
  boy, was this. Something you, okay?
• 56:23
  So yeah, it's crazy, but I'm so excited to talk about it.
• 56:27
  I have a lot of thoughts and feelings.
• 56:28
  So the next Except, uh, so this could be another hand-holding
• 56:32
  episode for me. Another hand-holding episode for
• 56:35
  everybody. Another Oscar nominated one
• 56:38
  sweetheart, wake back, Oscar nominees first sweet.
• 56:42
  Hot Demon Barber of Fleet Street.
• 56:44
  Now, Bram Stoker's Dracula. We're just among crates.
• 56:49
  We know award-winning constant when we see it.
• 56:52
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• 56:55
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• 56:58
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• 57:00
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