Latest / Weeknight Mysteries Podcast / Ep. 99 | An Appetite For Murder - The Gruesome & Found Footage Fever - The Conspiracy
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm sure Multivist had a burger from some dodgy-looking van
- 0:03Speaker 1: at the side of the road and afterwards you've been
- 0:05Speaker 1: left wondering what exactly the meat was in the burger.
- 0:09Speaker 1: If you lived in Maryland in the 90s and you
- 0:11Speaker 1: enjoyed a roadside burger around that time, you might find
- 0:14Speaker 1: yourself desperately trying to remember what exactly the owner of
- 0:17Speaker 1: that burger stand looked like and if that particular burger
- 0:20Speaker 1: seller looked anything like Joe Methani, then you'd have every
- 0:23Speaker 1: right to be seriously worried. Joseph Roy Methani was born
- 0:27Speaker 1: on the 2nd of March, 1955 in Baltimore, Maryland. How
- 0:32Speaker 1: his childhood went seems to depend entirely on who was
- 0:35Speaker 1: telling the story and this is a theme it will
- 0:37Speaker 1: get used to in this case. Talking about it years
- 0:41Speaker 1: after the fact Joe Methani insinuated that both he and
- 0:44Speaker 1: his five siblings were neglected. According to him, his alcoholic
- 0:48Speaker 1: father had died in a car accident in 1961 and
- 0:52Speaker 1: he also says that his mother passed away at a
- 0:54Speaker 1: later date. These comments must have come as a bit
- 0:57Speaker 1: of a shock to Mrs. Methani who, after Joseph's arrest,
- 1:01Speaker 1: was still very much alive. She said that whilst she
- 1:05Speaker 1: did have to work multiple odd jobs to make ends meet,
- 1:08Speaker 1: there was nothing unusual or particularly hard about his childhood
- 1:12Speaker 1: compared to others. She did confirm that his father was
- 1:15Speaker 1: indeed a heavy drinker and he had passed on after
- 1:18Speaker 1: a car accident. She disputed Joe's other comments about his
- 1:22Speaker 1: hardship and upbringing. His teachers and his mother both recalled
- 1:26Speaker 1: that Joe Methani was a very polite young man and
- 1:29Speaker 1: he did well in his classes showing a spark of intellect.
- 1:33Speaker 1: This politeness and intelligence would follow him throughout his life
- 1:36Speaker 1: although it would become warped and jaded over time. His
- 1:40Speaker 1: drug addiction began according to him after he joined the
- 1:43Speaker 1: army at 19 and served at all in Vietnam, there
- 1:46Speaker 1: he become reliant on heroin. According to his mother, he
- 1:50Speaker 1: did indeed join the army at that age but she
- 1:52Speaker 1: recalled him being stationed in Europe. She did confirm that
- 1:56Speaker 1: he started taking drugs and his life began to spiral
- 1:59Speaker 1: out of control but she was adamant that the Vietnam
- 2:02Speaker 1: tale was completely false. It should also be noted that
- 2:06Speaker 1: the US Army had no active involvement in Vietnam by
- 2:09Speaker 1: the time that Joe was in the Army. No records
- 2:12Speaker 1: existed from being stationed in Southeast Asia or seeing any
- 2:16Speaker 1: action there. That's the thing with Joe Medhani, it's hard
- 2:20Speaker 1: to separate fact from fiction. When he became involved with
- 2:24Speaker 1: drug-taking and alcohol abuse, it quickly overtook his life but
- 2:27Speaker 1: at the same time he was able to hold down
- 2:29Speaker 1: a respectable job as a forklift operator. His co-workers described
- 2:34Speaker 1: him as being intelligent and well-mannered and kind. By day
- 2:38Speaker 1: he moved pallets and stacked them in the warehouse, taking
- 2:41Speaker 1: home a pretty good wage. By night he would retreat
- 2:45Speaker 1: to a trailer that was parked on the grounds of
- 2:47Speaker 1: his workplace or he would head out and spend his
- 2:49Speaker 1: night with a group of homeless or drug addicted men
- 2:51Speaker 1: drinking and abusing every drug that he could get his
- 2:54Speaker 1: hands on. Joe Met Honey was a large man, he
- 2:58Speaker 1: described himself in the following words. I'm 48 years old,
- 3:02Speaker 1: I weigh about 450 pounds and it's not all fat.
- 3:07Speaker 1: That's a weight in excess of 32 stone and at
- 3:09Speaker 1: the height of 6 foot 1 he was an imposing figure.
- 3:12Speaker 1: He was affectionately if ironically referred to as Tiny by
- 3:15Speaker 1: his friends. Now exactly when Joe Methani started killing is
- 3:20Speaker 1: not quite clear. Methani's first confirmed murder came in 1994,
- 3:25Speaker 1: a woman named Kathy N. Magasina. She was a 39-year-old
- 3:30Speaker 1: prostitute that he'd met and taken back to his trailer.
- 3:34Speaker 1: After sexually assaulting her he took an extension cord and
- 3:37Speaker 1: wrapped it around her neck then slowly strangled at her death.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Immediately after the murder he buried her remains in a
- 3:43Speaker 1: shallow grave. Later he must have had a change of
- 3:47Speaker 1: mind because he dug up her body and hacked off
- 3:49Speaker 1: her head before throwing it into the trash. He reburied
- 3:53Speaker 1: what was left of her body in a nearby woods.
- 3:57Speaker 1: The second confirmed murder was a woman named Kimberly Lynn Spicer,
- 4:01Speaker 1: she was stabbed to death in November of 1996. This
- 4:05Speaker 1: was barely a month before Methani was arrested. Kimberly Lynn
- 4:09Speaker 1: Spicer was another prostitute who was addicted to heroin. Once
- 4:14Speaker 1: again she had been lured to Joe's trailer park home
- 4:16Speaker 1: before he sexually assaulted her and then stabbed her. There
- 4:20Speaker 1: was another attempted murder a month later in December of 1996.
- 4:25Speaker 1: He brought a woman named Rita Kemper back to his
- 4:28Speaker 1: trailer and they shared some drugs together and then when
- 4:30Speaker 1: she rebuffed his sexual advances he attacked her. He then
- 4:34Speaker 1: threatened to bury her in the woods with the other girl.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Rita Kemper escaped and she reported the attack to the police.
- 4:42Speaker 1: After Rita Kemper's escape Joe Methani realized that he would
- 4:45Speaker 1: probably be under police investigation and so bizarrely he asked
- 4:49Speaker 1: a friend to help him move the body of Kimberly
- 4:51Speaker 1: Lynn Spicer to a more secure burial ground. His friend
- 4:55Speaker 1: was clearly very shocked by being asked to do this
- 4:58Speaker 1: and instead of helping Methani he went to the authorities
- 5:00Speaker 1: and reported that Joe was quickly arrested. Methani was sentenced
- 5:05Speaker 1: to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. On the
- 5:09Speaker 1: 5th of August, 2017 age 62 he died still behind bars.
- 5:15Speaker 1: No you might be wondering why did I mention the
- 5:17Speaker 1: Burgos in the intro. Where did they fit in? Well
- 5:21Speaker 1: according to Joe he also worked at the roadside Burga
- 5:24Speaker 1: van and he has suggested that some of his victims
- 5:26Speaker 1: may have ended up in the Burgos. The only problem
- 5:30Speaker 1: is as we've already established Joseph Methani isn't exactly a
- 5:33Speaker 1: reliable source of information. If every one of his claims
- 5:37Speaker 1: were to be believed then he has a body count
- 5:39Speaker 1: of over 10 people maybe as high as 13. Yet
- 5:43Speaker 1: he's only ever been convicted of two murders. He was
- 5:47Speaker 1: suspected in a number of other killings though. In 1995
- 5:51Speaker 1: the bodies of two homeless men were found under Hanover
- 5:54Speaker 1: Street Bridge. They'd both been hacked to death with an axe.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Joe Methani claims that he killed these men and he
- 6:02Speaker 1: was tried for it but eventually he was acquitted due
- 6:04Speaker 1: to lack of evidence. There's also Tony Lynn in Gracia.
- 6:09Speaker 1: She was a young woman who struggled with drug addiction
- 6:12Speaker 1: and her body was found in 1994 dumped along the
- 6:15Speaker 1: I-95 not far from where Methani worked. She had been
- 6:19Speaker 1: strangled and stabbed to death. Joseph Methani was suspected of
- 6:24Speaker 1: murdering Tony in Gracia but again there wasn't enough evidence
- 6:27Speaker 1: to convict him. And these ones I would describe as
- 6:30Speaker 1: his great area victims. People who Joe might have killed
- 6:34Speaker 1: and we have the bodies but we just don't know
- 6:36Speaker 1: for sure. But there's also many people who Met Honey
- 6:40Speaker 1: claimed to have killed where there just isn't any evidence
- 6:42Speaker 1: at all. No bodies or murder weapons or any indication
- 6:47Speaker 1: that they weren't just figments of his wild imagination. So
- 6:51Speaker 1: exactly how many victims Joe Met Honey had is a
- 6:53Speaker 1: matter of debates. As is his claims of cooking up
- 6:57Speaker 1: the remains of his victims. According to him at some
- 7:01Speaker 1: point during his killing spray he started to butcher his
- 7:03Speaker 1: victims and kept the meat in tuba air in his freezer.
- 7:07Speaker 1: He would then mix this meat into burgers and sandwiches
- 7:10Speaker 1: and sell them to unsuspecting members of the public at
- 7:12Speaker 1: a pop-up stand on the roadside. According to Joe these
- 7:16Speaker 1: burgers were extremely popular. He described the taste of the
- 7:20Speaker 1: burgers as follows and they were very good. The human
- 7:24Speaker 1: body taste is very similar to pork. If he mix
- 7:28Speaker 1: it together then nobody can tell. Now whether you believe
- 7:31Speaker 1: this is up to you. I can't find an answer
- 7:35Speaker 1: either way. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that
- 7:38Speaker 1: he did this but he did definitely murder two people.
- 7:42Speaker 1: So it seems that his stories might be a mix
- 7:44Speaker 1: of truth and fiction. So there might be some truth
- 7:48Speaker 1: in the burger story. It's not entirely outside the realms
- 7:52Speaker 1: of possibility. I think it's possibly the appearance of Joe
- 7:56Speaker 1: Meth and he's such a large character. The idea that
- 7:59Speaker 1: he would be serving human meat burgers to people just
- 8:02Speaker 1: seems to fit somehow. As I say the claims are
- 8:06Speaker 1: unprovable but that also means they're pretty hard to debunk
- 8:09Speaker 1: as well. Anyone who lived in Baltimore, Maryland around that
- 8:12Speaker 1: time and had a burger from some pop-up stand is
- 8:15Speaker 1: always going to be left wondering is there any possibility
- 8:18Speaker 1: that they unknowingly eat human meat? So I'll leave you
- 8:21Speaker 1: with some final words from the man himself. He says,
- 8:25Speaker 1: well that's my story. Horrible but true. So next time
- 8:30Speaker 1: you're riding down the road and you happen to see
- 8:32Speaker 1: an open pit beef stand that you've never seen before,
- 8:35Speaker 1: make sure you think about this story before you take
- 8:37Speaker 1: a bite of that sandwich. Sometimes you never know who
- 8:41Speaker 1: you may be eating. And there you go, that's the
- 8:45Speaker 1: story of Joe Meth and he. Thank you very much
- 8:48Speaker 1: for watching. I'll see you next time. Goodbye. I've decided
- 8:54Speaker 1: to change up the format a bit and only review
- 8:57Speaker 1: one movie per episode. I found out the hard way
- 9:00Speaker 1: that by reviewing two movies per video it means you
- 9:03Speaker 1: get spit roasted with two separate copyright claims at the
- 9:06Speaker 1: same time. If I just review one movie it should
- 9:09Speaker 1: be easier to fight any claims I get. The movie
- 9:13Speaker 1: I'm reviewing today is called The Conspiracy. I'd say it's
- 9:17Speaker 1: more of a documentary horror rather than strictly a found
- 9:20Speaker 1: footage movie. but as I said in the last video
- 9:22Speaker 1: the genre is pretty vague these days and sometimes a
- 9:25Speaker 1: movie just feels found footage even if the footage wasn't
- 9:28Speaker 1: lost to begin with. The first half of this movie
- 9:31Speaker 1: isn't really horror at all. It feels like the sort
- 9:34Speaker 1: of documentary you'd see on Netflix or MTV. The movie
- 9:39Speaker 1: was made in 2012 and it really has the feeling
- 9:42Speaker 1: of that era and it kind of gives it a
- 9:43Speaker 1: real era of authenticity. I think the acting in it
- 9:47Speaker 1: is so good that if you showed it to someone
- 9:49Speaker 1: and they didn't know it was a movie they'd believe
- 9:51Speaker 1: they were actually watching the proper documentary with real people
- 9:54Speaker 1: being interviewed on the street. Parts of this movie remind
- 9:58Speaker 1: me of the Blair Witch Project in Canada. Holocaust, but
- 10:01Speaker 1: maybe it's just because I reviewed those movies last and
- 10:04Speaker 1: I've got them in my head. The Blair Witch influence
- 10:07Speaker 1: seems to come from the happy-go-lucky amateur filmmakers slowly becoming
- 10:11Speaker 1: embroiled in something horrifying which they never intended. It's even
- 10:15Speaker 1: got their shaky cam nighttime forest footage but we'll get
- 10:18Speaker 1: to that later. The Cannibal Holocaust influence might be a
- 10:22Speaker 1: bit more tenuous but these shots at the beginning are
- 10:25Speaker 1: almost exactly the same as shots from the opening scenes
- 10:28Speaker 1: of Cannibal Holocaust. Maybe it's a cheeky reference to that
- 10:32Speaker 1: movie or I could just be imagining it. So the
- 10:35Speaker 1: main plot of the movie is a small team of
- 10:37Speaker 1: filmmakers find a guy ranting on the streets about government conspiracies.
- 10:42Speaker 1: They decide to make a film about him and they
- 10:44Speaker 1: get invited back to his house to interview him. His
- 10:48Speaker 1: walls are plastered with newspaper clippings and generally it looks
- 10:51Speaker 1: like what you'd expect an insane conspiracy theorist home to
- 10:54Speaker 1: look like. The filmmakers are naturally pretty skeptical and it
- 10:58Speaker 1: almost feels like they're kind of exploiting the guy to
- 11:01Speaker 1: make their movie. This whole part of the film feels
- 11:04Speaker 1: really authentic. The acting is really good and feels very
- 11:08Speaker 1: natural and they cut in a lot of talking head
- 11:11Speaker 1: interviews with people from both sides of the conspiracy theory
- 11:14Speaker 1: arguments and then this splicing real footage from news and
- 11:17Speaker 1: the internet recordings. It kind of reminds me of a
- 11:20Speaker 1: series of books called the Illuminatus Trilogy where real life
- 11:24Speaker 1: and fictional conspiracy elements are combined in a way that
- 11:27Speaker 1: leaves you wondering how much of it is actually true.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Eventually the crazy conspiracy guy goes missing. His apartment looks
- 11:35Speaker 1: like it's been completely ransacked and there's no sign of
- 11:37Speaker 1: him anywhere. The filmmakers decide to bundle up what's left
- 11:42Speaker 1: of his newspaper clippings and they take him home with him.
- 11:45Speaker 1: As they sift through the clippings one of the filmmakers
- 11:48Speaker 1: becomes more and more convinced that the guy was actually
- 11:50Speaker 1: onto something whilst the other remains skeptical. I really like
- 11:55Speaker 1: this part of the movie because I think it offers
- 11:57Speaker 1: a good insight into both sides of the conspiracy arguments.
- 12:01Speaker 1: If you believe in a global conspiracy of elites or
- 12:04Speaker 1: not I think you'll identify with one of these characters
- 12:06Speaker 1: at this point. The skeptical one sees his friend becoming
- 12:10Speaker 1: increasingly paranoid and drawing conclusions from things that don't quite
- 12:14Speaker 1: link up but the one who believes in it becomes
- 12:16Speaker 1: frustrated that his friend's inability to connect the dots and
- 12:19Speaker 1: unwillingness to look at the facts objectively. Eventually their research
- 12:24Speaker 1: leads them to a mysterious group called the Tarsus group.
- 12:28Speaker 1: This seems to be a fictional version of something like
- 12:30Speaker 1: the Bilderberg group mixed with the Bohemian Grove club and
- 12:33Speaker 1: it's got elements of other secret Masonic style groups sprinkled
- 12:36Speaker 1: in there for good measure. It's a fictional club but
- 12:39Speaker 1: it's based so closely on real life things that it
- 12:42Speaker 1: feels very genuine. And this is the point in the
- 12:45Speaker 1: movie where the horror elements start to creep in. The
- 12:49Speaker 1: first half of the film is so mild it can
- 12:51Speaker 1: allows you into a false sense of security but once
- 12:54Speaker 1: they start to investigate the Tarsus group the creepy factor
- 12:57Speaker 1: really ramps up. They start being followed by a black
- 13:01Speaker 1: SUV with tinted windows and their apartment gets ransacked while
- 13:04Speaker 1: they're out. There's an increasing sense of paranoia that really
- 13:08Speaker 1: draws you in with them. It's all leading up to
- 13:11Speaker 1: the final part of the film in which the filmmakers
- 13:14Speaker 1: put on hidden cameras and manage to infiltrate a meeting
- 13:16Speaker 1: of the Tarsus group itself. This is where the film
- 13:20Speaker 1: really starts to feel like a true found footage movie.
- 13:24Speaker 1: To be honest this is only about the last 30
- 13:26Speaker 1: minutes of the film but really the latter part of
- 13:28Speaker 1: the documentary were just there to build atmosphere for these
- 13:31Speaker 1: final scenes. As a viewer you go from being skeptical
- 13:35Speaker 1: to paranoid along with the filmmakers so when you see
- 13:38Speaker 1: them wandering around among the very people they've been investigating
- 13:41Speaker 1: it's an extremely tense viewing experience. The first person camera
- 13:46Speaker 1: really makes it feel like you're in there with them
- 13:48Speaker 1: and the feeling that they might get caught at any
- 13:50Speaker 1: second is incredibly atmospheric. Unfortunately I can't tell you much
- 13:54Speaker 1: about this part of the movie without spoiling it. All
- 13:58Speaker 1: I'll say is there's some really cool occult ritual type
- 14:01Speaker 1: stuff and there's a few moments in there that genuinely
- 14:03Speaker 1: give me the chills. So like I say this hidden
- 14:07Speaker 1: camera footage is really where the movie pays off and
- 14:09Speaker 1: I recommend you go see it yourself and try not
- 14:12Speaker 1: to spoil it ending beforehand and don't skip through the
- 14:14Speaker 1: documentary parts at the beginning because I think without them
- 14:17Speaker 1: the final part won't have the same impact. If you
- 14:20Speaker 1: are going to see it I don't recommend watching it
- 14:22Speaker 1: on the internet movies. I rented it on the internet
- 14:26Speaker 1: and it really doesn't handle the hidden camera scenes well.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Obviously these scenes are lower quality than the first part
- 14:33Speaker 1: of the film and that's fine because you expect with
- 14:35Speaker 1: a tiny hidden camera it's going to be kind of
- 14:37Speaker 1: grainy and low quality but then the internet's compression adds
- 14:40Speaker 1: another layer of creepiness on top of it to this
- 14:43Speaker 1: point where it makes some parts almost unwatchable. It kind
- 14:46Speaker 1: of makes a lot of scenes very blocky and it
- 14:49Speaker 1: really took me out of the movie at some but
- 14:51Speaker 1: so the internet movies really sucks. They also messed up
- 14:55Speaker 1: Blair Witch Project so don't rent that on the internet
- 14:57Speaker 1: either but yeah I'm not sure what it is with
- 14:59Speaker 1: the internet. They don't seem to be able to handle
- 15:02Speaker 1: their old grainy footage as much as their HD stuff.
- 15:06Speaker 1: So have you seen this movie? If you have let
- 15:09Speaker 1: me know what you thought of it. I know it's
- 15:12Speaker 1: not like a super obscure film but it's one that
- 15:14Speaker 1: I never hear people talking about when I talk about
- 15:17Speaker 1: horror movies like this. Maybe other people just didn't like
- 15:21Speaker 1: it as much as I did but I definitely recommend it.
- 15:24Speaker 1: It's really well made and it feels authentic and it's
- 15:27Speaker 1: genuinely very creepy in some places. It's a shame I
- 15:31Speaker 1: can't say more about the ending but I feel like
- 15:33Speaker 1: it really would spoil it and all I can really
- 15:36Speaker 1: say is the documentary parts at the beginning even though
- 15:38Speaker 1: it comprises the bulk of the movie. It's all leading
- 15:42Speaker 1: up to the hidden camera footage at the end and
- 15:44Speaker 1: it really pays off. I think the ending is quite satisfying.
- 15:49Speaker 1: It'll leave you thinking about things and it leaves quite
- 15:52Speaker 1: a few things up in the air. It doesn't explain
- 15:55Speaker 1: too much. The film actually borrows a lot from an
- 15:59Speaker 1: earlier movie called The Brandon Corey Story. This is another
- 16:03Speaker 1: conspiracy-themed documentary with a lot of real-life stuff sprinkled in there.
- 16:08Speaker 1: It even ends with someone sneaking into a place with
- 16:11Speaker 1: a hidden camera. I can see where the inspiration comes
- 16:14Speaker 1: from but in my opinion the conspiracy is the better
- 16:17Speaker 1: movie but the Brandon Corey story is still kind of
- 16:19Speaker 1: cool and it's got David Akin it so it gets
- 16:21Speaker 1: bonus points for that but yeah I might cover that
- 16:24Speaker 1: in a future video. Until next time goodbye.